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It has just turned 9 when the protested began. First there where 100 people marching for equal rights. That number quickly grew to 300 over the next thirty minutes and doubled in another thirty minutes. The march started at Michael street and was going to end at the parliament building in The nation's capital. but at noon when the crowd has reached Sesame street there numbers where in the thousands. The Macgruber government figured they has to assert there power before the whole nation started doing this. they sent hundreds of armed men to sesame street to kill every protester. The line of soldiers was only a dozen feet away from the protesters when one hippie called out " Move! We have rights to!". The line of troops stopped for a moment. they aimed there guns at the crowd and fired. The troops threw incendiary and fragmentation grenades deep into the now fleeing mob. Hundreds are killed within seconds. Two Apache gunships arrive and fired there missiles and Gatling cannon into the noticeably smaller crowd. The gunships left and the soldiers killed any wounded and returned back to base.
Over the next couple of hours the story and dozens of videos from the event was plastered over the international News.


OCC: this has nothing to do with any conflicts I'm currently in.

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To: Macgruber

The constant human rights abuses, massacres and support for such acts abroad on the part of the Macgruber government leads the Executive Council of Zinaire to think that, perhaps, your humble nation is in need of a regime change. Zinaire is slow to anger and slow to involve itself in matters which do not directly affect its own, but continued blatant disregard for human life and human rights could be a fatal mistake.

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Gregory Bishop
Chief Executive of Zinaire

Message to Zinaire: Your country does not scare us. I hope you do not make the mistake of declaring war on us.

ooc Apaches have Chain Guns Not Gatling ones

To: MacGruber

I understand that there has been a recent protest and that you dispatched with excessive force. I applaud your efforts. I have been given the power, by Emperor Aaron, to assist you militarily if any other nation chooses to go against you.

General James Madroe
Councilman in charge of the Unnecessary Wars Dept.

To: MacGruder

From: Roef head of office

I understood, out of your news, that you just killed hundrets of man. Where did they protest for? For rights! You are a agressive, unfriendly nation. I want you to change, or your leader will find himself back in a grave, alive, with only a gun and 1 bullet. He can shoot himself, or he will die in pain. Understood? Now, find a better leader, and make sure THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN! Or feel the power of a armed army, understood?

To: MacGruber

I understand that there has been a recent protest and that you dispatched with excessive force. I applaud your efforts. I have been given the power, by Emperor Aaron, to assist you militarily if any other nation chooses to go against you.

General James Madroe
Councilman in charge of the Unnecessary Wars Dept.

Official message to Emperor Aaron: The nation of Macgruber looks forward to fighting side by side your men. I understand Roef has not enjoyed the massacre as much as you had so i hope your nation is ready to be deployed at once.

Official message to the Roef head of office (encrypted): My nation will not be changing leaders anytime soon. So you will have to make the first move. Your nation will be destroyed just shortly after I behead your leaders and leave them hanging for all to see.

General Madroe was leaving within minutes receiving the message. He got his own squad from the Aaronian Army, including 5 tanks and 300 soldiers. Within 2 hours they were loaded up on planes and on their way to MacGruber. He sent the following message.

"We are on our way to help defend your country or attack another's. It is not another nation's place to tell someone how to run their country.

General James Madroe
Councilman in charge of the Unnecessary Wars Dept./General of the MacGruber Defense Forces of Aaronia

I'm glad you agree with me. I'll send some F-22 to make sure your passage is safe. Try and send some fighter or battleships and more troops if you can spare them because my nation is a island only connected with one other country (Cuborg). I will try and return the favor by given you the severed head of the enemy leader (stuffed with gold objects) and his land.

OOC: Mind if I send some special operators to facilitate a regime change?

OOC: CAn i send some operators as well, poss a joint op?

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AND ITS IN THE CENTER OF ALL MY IC POSTS



The Phoenix Milita applauds Macgruber's swift and decisive action against insolent protesters. Whether mass protests are held for a specious cause like equal rights, or something more important like the price of movie tickets, mass protests do nothing but undermine the government and spread dissent among the people. And so while we agree with what you have done in principle, we must question the wisdom of the way you carried out these actions. If thinning the number of protesters was the only course of action, certainly you could have done it in a more subtle manner, or at least contained it better. We are worried that you would let so many videos and reports out of your country. We hope at least you are able to suppress this in your own country if nothing else. Otherwise we think you may have to assert your authority more often, and more severely next time.
- State Dept.

General Madroe and his men arrived at the airport and stepped off the plane to see if there was a welcoming comitee. (ooc: i'll send some naval vessels, including an aircraft carrier)

OOC: CAn i send some operators as well, poss a joint op?

OOC: A Zinairian spec ops team's idea of a "joint op" is telling the other group "you go on ahead, we'll be right behind you" then going 'round the back while the others get massacred as a distraction. Believe it or not, Roef fell for that one time.

OOC: A Zinairian spec ops team's idea of a "joint op" is telling the other group "you go on ahead, we'll be right behind you" then going 'round the back while the others get massacred as a distraction. Believe it or not, Roef fell for that one time.

OOC: CA, actually, but in my eyes they're really the same person.

OOC: CA, actually, but in my eyes they're really the same person.

OOC: Ah, right. One eight year-old Dutchman is the same as all the rest.

Any nation that is currently in this conflict can stay. for now on, no new joiners. One spot is reserved for Cuborg.

A regime change sounds pleasant. Zinaire, finding the leader is the hard part. I suggest his private estate.

I recommend against attacking Cuborg (and his allies). He's crafty. And he has an ally with the Titan Project...

OOC: That's why it's a covert operation. And I don't know what the "Titan Project" is, but my entire GDP says it's wank.

oh i know it covert. The titan project is far from a wank.

As General Madroe steps off the plan a Macgruber military welcome party hands out cake to the General and his men. How ever a angry mob (120 people) out side the fence begins yelling at the foreign troops. "What a perfect chance to demonstrate our new riot control tank (A Flamethrower tank)." The head of the welcome party explains to the general and his men. The tank moves towards the fence and sprays a deadly stream of fire at the protesters. This is covered by The Nation's News crews who are instructed to air it international by the Macgruber government.

oh i know it covert. The titan project is far from a wank.

As General Madroe steps off the plan a Macgruber military welcome party hands out cake to the General and his men. How ever a angry mob (120 people) out side the fence begins yelling at the foreign troops. "What a perfect chance to demonstrate our new riot control tank (A Flamethrower tank)." The head of the welcome party explains to the general and his men. The tank moves towards the fence and sprays a deadly stream of fire at the protesters. This is covered by The Nation's News crews who are instructed to air it international by the Macgruber government.

"That sounds like an interesting toy, our closest equivalent at the time being are shells that spread toxic gas among enemy ranks, we could use one of those on these protesters if you'd like. The best part is that the gas slowly mixes with the air so that after 5 minutes, you could travel through without ill effects" said Madroe as he motioned for a tank that rolled out of the back of the plane. "I would like to speak to someone in charge to discuss possible further Aaronian involvement."

"Then come inside general" major general grant calls out from a bunker.

ooc: do you want me to fire into the crowd

General Madroe went inside the bunker with 6 men in tow. The rest were busy unloading their gear. Madroe met the man and stuck his hand out for a handshake.

Grant extends his hand and shakes with Madroe. "lets get down to business people" Macgruber says (Hes on a tv screen so he really isn't there). "yes sir Macgruber sir!" grant says. "hello Madroe. My nation looks forward to working with you".

OOC: As I understand it, Titan is some guy being sprayed with a chemical that I don't think exists and turning into a monster...that sounds pretty wank to me (at least, if you use it in a military scenario).

Council Chambers, Zinaire City

The Executive Council was in the middle of discussing increased tax cuts for domestic employers when there was a loud knock on the door. The huissier hurried to answer it.

An army officer stood there, the hat for his dress uniform under his arm.

"Pardon the interruption, but something of interest has happened. If I may approach..."

Gregory Bishop motioned the officer towards the table. The soldier placed a PMP on the table and started the video of the flamethrower tank.

"This occurred around an hour ago." The officer said, "Just yesterday there was another massacre in the same nation. You sent them a warning personally, Councilor Bishop."

Gregory Bishop nodded solemnly at the conclusion of the video. "I would like to move to authorize limited military action in order to depose the current leader of...what is it?"

"Macgruber, sir." Said the solider.

"Yes. All in favor?"

Without hesitation, the five councilors raised their hands.

"Very well. Tell your superiors that action is authorized by the Executive Council. Also, have ZINNIA drum up some information on the leader."

The officer saluted then left the chamber.

OOC: Expect some commandos shortly, probably arriving by air. Would a military transport go unnoticed or would they be better off commandeering a civilian jet?

OOC: no i killed them already.

OOC: commandeering would have the highest chance of success. We would spot you military plane miles away.

OOC: And a regular passenger jet wouldn't have any problems landing? It would probably either be a random foreign airline, an airline which doesn't actually exist or maybe Zinaire's national airline: ZinAir.

Oh it would have problems. In fact it would be shot down if it flies into one of many no fly zones. It would last slightly longer then a military plane.

OOC: But if it were just to land at an airport?

is the plane scheduled to land there? If you answer yes then yes and no then no.

To: The baka in Charge of MacGruber

You should not piss off the Larger nations, they tend to fry small nations that are Too much into killing Civil Rights Protesters.

You would think so but no.

Madroe looked at the two men and said, "We are willing to aid you in this on certain conditions. We want a portion of land from any conquered territories as well as monetary compensation up-front. If that is agreeable, I will call Admiral Telkah and have him bring a naval detachment. I can also have several fighters, bombers and helicopters from the Air Corps come in to aid as well. If the Aaronian Empire helps, you will win."

Heres my counter offer: you get ALL conquered lands, but no compensation.

OOC: Yes, that is a problem. I doubt ZinAir would be flying to your nation. I guess it's time for plan B...

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To: MacGruber

I would like to offer my sincere apologies to you and your nation. I had been misinformed about the events leading up to your military's massacre of protestors. I had been originally told that there citizens were protesting recent environmental policies. However, I have recently been corrected and now that I know that they were actually seeking "equal rights", I fully support your actions. These protestors were no more than filthy anarchists looking to overthrow your government and to do anything but stamp them out could have resulted in nation-wide anarchy.

Therefore, as a sign of my support of your regime's policies and as a physical representation of my sincere apologies, I would like to offer you a company of Zinairian infantry, some of the finest in the world, to aid you in putting down any more dangerous anarchist uprisings.

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Gregory Bishop
Chief Executive of Zinaire

"That sounds good, we can use that land more than we could use the money. Telkah is on his way with several naval vessels as well as ground troops. Several of our planes and helicopters will also be arriving at your borders soon," said Madroe. He got more than he expected out of this deal. Now they would have to go on the offensive against one of these other nations. Besides, the future trade gained from would be worth more than any temporary monetary gain

By plane?

fantastic then!

By plane?

OOC: My soldiers? Yeah, they'd arrive in a couple military transport planes.

ok thats cool i guess. Send them in.

OOC: what is this "Titan Project"?

http://nationstates.wikia.com/wiki/Titan_Project

.................that is....................WTF?

On July 14th, 1997, the Cuborg Health Department attempted to find a cure for cancer. After many deaths of test subjects, Tethradelta-hydroride-47 was invented. It was first used in 2008. Travis Starker, diagnosed with lung cancer, was chosen to try TH47, an experimental cure. The results were monstrous. Starker transformed into a large, scaled demonic monster, and was locked away in Sector 7G. The Cuborg military took control of the program, dubbed the creature 'The Titan', and has so far been unable to get an equal reaction to TH47. All later testes died

I Smell Wank.

Mac, lissen, no one will RP with you with Kill Demonic monsters in your Armed forces, even Cuborg should know that also.

yah it is kinda gay........

In my defense, it's a super mutant, not a demon.

But you don't want to fight ONLY ONE CREATURE, I guess I can promise to not use it in this conflict/thread.

are the planes coming now? don't worry there will not be any super soldiers.

OOC: Lol, I like how Ryou is calling the Titan Project wank. It is plausible and furthermore, THERE IS ONLY ONE TITAN and that Titan is attacking my little fort in Cuborg so it won't be in here.

In all, 159 Zinairians were being shipped off the Macgruber. However, only 154 of them were in the army, and even they weren't who they said they were. The troops were posing as a standard infantry company (although, because of their mission, the weapons squads and platoon had been replaced with additional rifle units) but, in reality, they were members of the elite Tactical Operations Division– the Zinairian Army's primary special forces unit.

The additional five men were posing as an additional fireteam, but, in reality, they were a ZINNIA Special Activities Team. At their first opportunity, they would be breaking away from the other troops, changing out of their uniforms and commandeering a car. They would then set about trying to locate and assassinate Macrguber's leader.

Even the soldiers were doing their utmost to conceal their Zinairian identity. However they were not trying to hide it from Macgruber, they were trying to hide it from the rest of the world. If any journalists spotted Zinairian soldiers taking part in the massacre, it could be disastrous, so troops were under strict orders not to wear any identifying insignia. All vehicles had also been stripped of their roundels and symbols.

The vehicles had also been modified with special hidden weapon lockers. In the smaller MOWAG Eagle IVs, of which nine had been sent, there were five K28 rifles and an assortment of barrels and attachments. The larger VLT M6s contained nine K28s, a Barrett XM500 and a LAC.IV Verutum. An anti-tank, a fragmentation and an anti-material round for the Verutum was included. The Eagle which the ZINNIA operatives would use contained a PSG-1 and a Barrett in addition to the K28s.

Zinairian National Airbase

The three C-17 Globemaster IIIs which were transporting the troops and vehicles began their pass down the runway and within minutes, they were in the air, heading towards Macgruber.

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ORBAT

- First Company (154 troops)
- Company Leader (Captain)
- Chief Warrant Officer
- 1st Platoon
- Platoon Leader (1st Lt.)
- Platoon Sergeant (Sgt. 1st Class)
- 1st Squad
- Squad Leader (Staff Sgt.)
- Alpha Team (Eagle)
- Rifleman (AVIR SR)
- Marksman (AVIR IAR)
- Automatic Rifleman (ADEC)
- Leader (AVIR SR + LGFM.II)

- Bravo Team (Eagle)
- Rifleman (AVIR SR)
- Marksman (AVIR IAR)
- Automatic Rifleman (ADEC)
- Leader (AVIR SR + LGFM.II)

- 2nd Squad
- Squad Leader (Staff Sgt.)
- Alpha Team (Eagle)
- Bravo Team (Eagle)

- 3rd Squad
- Squad Leader (Staff Sgt.)
- Alpha Team (Eagle)
- Bravo Team (Eagle)

- 4th Squad
- Squad Leader (Staff Sgt.)
- Alpha Team (Eagle)
- Bravo Team (Eagle)

- 2nd Platoon
- Platoon Leader (1st Lt.)
- Platoon Sergeant (Sgt. 1st Class)
- 1st Squad (M6)
- 2nd Squad (M6)
- 3rd Squad (M6)
- 4th Squad (M6)

- 3rd Platoon
- Platoon Leader (1st Lt.)
- Platoon Sergeant (Sgt. 1st Class)
- 1st Squad (M6)
- 2nd Squad (M6)
- 3rd Squad (M6)
- 4th Squad (M6)

- 4th Platoon
- Platoon Leader (1st Lt.)
- Platoon Sergeant (Sgt. 1st Class)
- 1st Squad (M6)
- 2nd Squad (M6)
- 3rd Squad (M6)
- 4th Squad (M6)

- ZINNIA Special Activities Team (Eagle)
- Alpha (AVIR SR)
- Bravo (AVIR IAR)
- Charlie (ADEC)
- Delta (AVIR SR)
- Echo (AVIR SR + LGFM.II)

A group of F-22 raptors fly towards the Globemasters and tells them to land at Purplehaze city airport (Its hundreds of miles away from our capital).

The ZINNIA operatives couldn't help but grin at each other when they heard the news. They radioed back to the Raptors:

"We were not aware that we would have the honor of personally relaying our apologies to your esteemed leader. However, our most decorated unit will be apologizing to him."

With the radio turned off, the agents got down to planning.

"Obviously, we can't kill him right there. We have to use this meeting as a opportunity to find out where he is staying and what the security is. Maybe we could plant some bugs or even get a GPS tracker on him."

OOC: No fair changing it now. If you were going to let them meet with the leader, don't change your mind now that you know what's going to happen.

OOC: You will meet with him just your have to land at Purplehaze city first.

At Macgruber's estate (one of many) he sends orders out the the entire plane will be searched every compartment and dogs will be used. If they find anything to suspect a assassination attempt to kill the entire crew and sever the heads.

OOC: What are your countries defense systems?

At Purplehaze airbase four FNSS Pars roll up by the tarmac and unload there troops and small van also pulls with search dog and other equipment also the press arrived to cover the story.

As the van rolled up, some of the more junior soldiers began to fidget nervously. The Captain in charge of the entire observation made a quick speech in the back of one of the C-17s.

"There's nothing to worry about, the compartments are well-hidden. If the rifles are discovered, they are for taking out anarchists which may be hiding, planning an ambush. The RPGs are for destroying rebel barricades. If things go sour, under no condition are you to fight back unless you are in an enclosed, one-on-one environment. While we could kill everyone in that van with hardly any effort, it would jeopardize Zinaire as a whole. However, if we are martyred, Zinaire will be supported by our allies and other international powers and they will avenge our deaths one thousand-fold."

With the speech over, the cargo ramps on the planes were swung open and the soldiers filed out, standing at attention outside the three planes.

OOC: Air defense? We have a number of Skyguard systems spread throughout the nation. I would advise you not to do anything rash though.

Also, could I have some information about the size/quality of your military?

Macgruber steps out of the airbase and begins walking towards the C-17s. the soldiers enter the planes and being inspecting the vehicles.

At Macgruber's estate, Macgruber watches the entire event unfold on his TV.

OOC:Oh the thread is closed so no allies can arrive now

My military is very large (numbers unknown due to losses and recruiting number lately). We use modern/advanced weapons and vehicles. We also have a large nuclear and chemical arsenal, but you shouldn't worry your self with that unless you use any on use first. we have a missile sheild (Not a energy sheild).

OOC:Oh the thread is closed so no allies can arrive now

OOC: Uhm. So basicly.. you do something really offensive.. wait until 2-3 people support you and 1 person wants to fight, then declare it closed to further participants? In essence, you're cheating by declaring it "closed" when you have more allies.

Expect most people to either ignore you from now on, or step in anyway.

OOC: How's their training? And a war would be started in another thread.

IC: The Captain motioned towards the reporters, "Get those out of there. As a matter of protocol, we don't allow reporters at active deployments."

OOC: Uhm. So basicly.. you do something really offensive.. wait until 2-3 people support you and 1 person wants to fight, then declare it closed to further participants? In essence, you're cheating by declaring it "closed" when you have more allies.

Expect most people to either ignore you from now on, or step in anyway.
Makes sense. Ok Cuborg is out and Zinaire gets one more Allie. The reports stay and begin filming the story. Macgruber gets closer to the plane.

All soldiers are very well trained

Makes sense. Ok Cuborg is out and Zinaire gets one more Allie. The reports stay and begin filming the story. Macgruber gets closer to the plane.

All soldiers are very well trained

OOC: You can't just handwave and say you have tons of well-trained soldiers with good equipment. Your defense budget isn't that massive, so you'll have to make some compromises.

IC: "I said, get those reporters out of here!" The Captain bellowed at the nearest Macgruber soldier.

"yes sir!" the soldiers remove the reporters.

OOC: we don't spend tons on the training but we do discipline training and the training weapons are obsolete. Oh i should have mentioned that my country main infantry weapon is the Ak-47.

Makes sense. Ok Cuborg is out and Zinaire gets one more Allie. The reports stay and begin filming the story. Macgruber gets closer to the plane.

All soldiers are very well trained

OOC: I guess I'll step in and fill the role then.

IC:

Official Reply of the Blubland Government

We are greatly displeased at this show of force against unarmed civilians. Further, video proof of these acts show that your response was incredibly disporportionate to whatever violence the crowd may have committed.

We demand that your government immedietly disband and step down from power, and that a new leadership be democraticly elected. Further, we demand that those responsible for ordering the hostilities against unarmed civilians be put on trial in a neutral court.

- Blubland

Message to Blubland Government: They could have been armed. Did you see the flamethrower tank video? it was hilarious.

Message to Blubland Government: They could have been armed. Did you see the flamethrower tank video? it was hilarious.

Official Reply
Is this the official reply of your government?

yes. yes it is.

Official Reply

Very well then.

Official message to Blubland Government: why can't you leave us alone? why must you try and police the world? I will not step down. You will have to take military action.

"Thank you." The Captain said as the reporters were shooed away. "Now, is there a commanding officer I can speak to?"

Star City, Blubland

Prime Minister Brubbit sat in his office at the Capitol Building, examining a menu and trying to decide if he wanted to order pizza or a strombolli for lunch. Heaps of paperwork and files were piled up on his desk and it seemed like it would be another very long day.

A red telephone on the desk rang and he picked it up, "Yes?"

A secretary replied, "Prime Minister? General Hrup is on the line. He wants to discuss the situation with Macgruber."

"Put him on."

"Mister Prime Minister?"

"Go ahead."

"Sir, they have refused to even negotiate the replacement and arrest of those responsible for the massacre. They actually dared us to use military force."

"And you want clearance?"

"Yes sir. These violations of basic human rights, Blubbish or otherwise are unacceptable. Another smaller nation seems to have taken offense, but they are probably incapable of dealing with the situation effectively and cleanly."

The Prime Minister leaned back in his chair, his eyestalks peering up at the ceiling thoughtfully. "Very well then General. You have full action authority."

Azure Bay, Blubland

Azure Bay hosted Blubland's Northern Command, including its massive ports and shipyard network. Hundreds of ships were docked here at any time. When word arrived over the radios and comm systems, the Blubland Colonial Navy errupted with activity.

BCN Leyte was a massive Prince of Aralonia Class Super Fleet Monitor (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=123&hl=) and named after the massive battle Blubland had fought with Hataria among the Leyte Islands. Out-numbered nearly 7 to 1, Blubland had fought a two-week engagement and brought the enemy to a standstill, forcing a negotiated end to the fighting.

BCN Leyte began to build up its engine powers, and slowly moved out of her berth. The blunt nose of the battleship turned towards the distant mouth of the bay and began to pick up speed. Lead by dozens of destroyers and cruisers and surrounded by even more smaller warships, Leyte was escorting a pair of Super Nimitz aircraft carriers and three Wasp Class Assault Ships.

Thousands of civilians gathered over time as the ships steamed out of the harbor. The civilians looked on proudly and silently, knowing that once again the mighty Colonial Navy was off to war. This time to defend the defenseless.

Open Sea

Rings of destroyers and cruisers protected the huge ships in the center of the formation as the carriers began their CAP operations. Under the protective blanket of Nemesis Air Defense Cruisers (http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4720/nemesisddcf5.png), a dozen fighters supported by AWACs began a patrol around the fleet as it made its way north.

"do i count?" 'Macgruber' calls out.

Official message to The Blub Colony: So you are taking military action. very well you have called this upon yourself. If you back down now you can save your BCN Leyte. I realize how expensive it is.

OOC:What are the fleets anti missile protection? What kind of missile protection does your country have?

At Purplehaze city the go ahead has been given on the launch of a LGM-30 Minuteman with high explosive warhead to be fired at the BCN Leyte. A fleet of F-22 raptors take off and begin flying towards the ships. There missile are in range is thirty minutes. (there weapon systems have a range of 1500 miles).
OOC: What kind of nuclear or chemical arsenal do you have? how big is your budget?

OOC: Macgruber as in your leader?

"do i count?" 'Macgruber' calls out.

Official message to The Blub Colony: So you are taking military action. very well you have called this upon yourself. If you back down now you can save your BCN Leyte. I realize how expensive it is.

OOC:What are the fleets anti missile protection? What kind of missile protection does your country have?

At Purplehaze city the go ahead has been given on the launch of a LGM-30 Minuteman with high explosive warhead to be fired at the BCN Leyte. A fleet of F-22 raptors take off and begin flying towards the ships. There missile are in range is thirty minutes. (there weapon systems have a range of 1500 miles).
OOC: What kind of nuclear or chemical arsenal do you have? how big is your budget?


OOC: Before I reply to any of the IC stuff.

How do you know what my fleet is doing or where it's going? Or where it's at exactly, to try to specificly target it? Let alone why you have nukes, being a 2 month old nation.

My defense budget is 15.2 trillion. Information on my OOB can be found in my signature. Most of the equipment is clickable which takes you to links.

Annnd.. my nuclear/chemical/biological/thermic arsenal is highly classified. The same with my missile defense system. You wouldn't find any of that information without some IMPRESSIVE spy work.

OOC: There's no way that you'd hit a vessel at sea with an ICBM. Those weapons are designed to land within... a quarter mile or so of a fixed location, which is to be destroyed by the nuclear warhead transported by said missile. Personally, I'd edit that section out, because all you'd end up doing is wasting several very expensive missiles in a futile attempt to hit a moving target. Using conventional explosive warheads, not even nukes.

OOC: Well it might be a double, but who can tell without dissecting the body.

I'm sorry that information is highly classified. We found it using satellites when you began threaten us. A 700m+ ship is hard to hide.

Your right i'll change it to a Nuclear warhead If you insist. 350kt blast yield.

OOC: Well it might be a double, but who can tell without dissecting the body.

I'm sorry that information is highly classified. We found it using satellites when you began threaten us. A 700m+ ship is hard to hide.

OOC: So, you're just going to godmod and claim you know exactly where my assets are at? And then, being a 2 month old nation, claim you can hit them with a land-attack nuclear missile?

to: macgruber

the Nation of Babelistan, have no interest in your own internal affairs, but should this aggression be turned outward, be warned you will feel the full force of Babelistans conscripted army. any action that could be taken as an infringement on Babelistans sovereign borders (both on land, sea air, and space) will be met with brutal and swift retribution.

OOC: I highly reccomend you read the various help threads before continuing this any further. If you think you can try to use a nuke on a nation 10x your size and with a military budget x12 your own, and then just ignore if when you get pummeled in return with over 45,000 RIVs.. you've got another guess coming.

Either play correctly or I'll take the cheap and easy way of finishing it. ;)

"Oh! I didn't expect you, sir. Captain Jonathan Pierce, it's a pleasure. I assume you know who we are."

Your ship is 750m+. Anyway the spy satellites picked it up moments after it began moving. Its not a miracle that ship was picked up by the way there are dozens of other very large naval ship also in the area. The missile will explode half a mile above the the ships.

Your ship is 750m+. Anyway the spy satellites picked it up moments after it began moving. Its not a miracle that ship was picked up by the way there are dozens of other very large naval ship also in the area. The missile will explode half a mile above the the ships.

OOC: I'll ask this only once. Are you absolutely and completely sure you want to use nukes, and accept the consequences of doing so?

"Good to meet you Captain" Macgruber said.

OOC: Because your country is wanting every thing to be fair, Cuborg your in. You use the quick and easy way so will I.

nah no nukes now. The ICBM was aborted.

OOC: Are the Raptors still inbound or did you call them off as well?

"Will you be relaying our orders to us personally, sir?"

OOC: Alright! I'm back in the game!

The Cuborg airforce is on full alert. Any incoming threats will be shot down without hesitation. The Royal Navy heavily patrols Cuborg waters. The Supergun project is activated. The Cuborg military sends troops to secure Macgruber's coastal cities. The Titan Project is currently searching for more suitable subjects.

OOC: The raptor are still inbound.
"Yes. now you come with me to that building and we can talk about your apology. Only you may come Captain, I'm sure you will understand." Macgruber says.

"Certainly, sir. However, if you find it permissible, there is someone else who I think should offer the apology." The Captain motioned for one of the ZINNIA operatives to approach. "This boy is the son of Councilor Davis of the Executive Council."

The operative nodded, "Yes, sir. The Chief Executive asked that I apologize on behalf of the council."

"You two can enter the building" Macgruber says. Macgruber heads for the building.

"Certainly, sir."

The two men followed Macgruber into the building.

Macgruber enters the building and walks to the end of the hall. A man standing to the far side of the door (where they entered) aims a silenced M9 pistol at the son of Councilor Davis and fires at his head and then shoots the captain twice in the leg. They do this when the door closes of course.

Outside of the airbase dozens of Humvee s pull into the airbase and order the crew to stand down. Hundreds of troops rush out of the building towards the planes. on the roof, dozens of snipers step up.

The operative, who naturally, wasn't actually of any relation to any of the councilors, screamed as he was hit in the jaw with a bullet. He drew the Diablo from his thigh holster and fired several shots at "Macgruber" and the assailant before collapsing in pain. His last words, before blacking out, were "these idiots don't even know how to take a prisoner."

The Captain, who had been shot once in the leg, hit the ground, partly out of conditioning and partly out of pain, and returned fire with his Diablo.

Outside, the Lieutenant in charge of the 1st Platoon was busy calculating his options. Even if they could get back into the Globemasters and into the air, they would probably be shot down by fighters. If they could get to their vehicles, they could access the heavier weapons inside and they would also be safe from sniper fire but they would be far from invincible. Finally, a surrender would most likely see them executed on the spot, but there was a chance they would be taken prisoner. Of course, they could try to talk their way out of it and pretend they had no idea what was going on, but that was a last resort.

Finally, the Lt. made his call and ordered everyone to talk cover. The troops hustled towards the M6s and Eagles arranged at the foot of the cargo ramps.

Taskforce 21, The Open Seas

The fleet continued to move along at a good clip. The Questers designed Battle FA.1 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13163696&postcount=5) carrying payloads of anti-air and anti-shipping/submarine munitions remained in a wide ring around the ships with support of AWACs.

Forward-deployed of the fleet by about five hundred miles was a single E-14C AWAC (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12804963&postcount=31) which flew only two hundred feet off the ground, effectively blending in with the RADAR clutter of islands and the wavetops while its own powerful ECM system swept the skies. As it turned out, Macgruber hadn't sent AWACs anyway, and the F-22s had to rely on their own RADARs.

The inbound pack of Macgruber F-22s were detected early and a satellite signal sent back to the task force. E-14A Multi-sensor Command and Control Aircraft (MSC2A) (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12804963&postcount=31) aircraft over the fleet vectored their Doppler systems in on the contacts, maintaining a joint C3 connection to the forward AWAC in an over-the-horizon mode and maintaining communications via satellite.

While the satellite communications were maintained, a jamming signal was broadcast, bringing a 'fuzz' to RADAR in the direction of the F-22s. And.. as Macgruber hadn't bothered to send any electronics warfare along for the ride, their F-22s would more than likely be blinded.

Somewhat west of Taskforce 21, a formation of brand new F-77 Zulu (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=568310) strike fighters, AeroBlub Industries' newest aircraft were just finishing ariel refueling. At a communication from the fleet, twenty of them broke off from the others and swept northwards. These stealthy aircraft had little to fear from anything in the skies with the RADAR jamming underway. Combined with their low-detection profiles and the electronic warfare, they would be lost in the static.

Still out-of-sight of the approaching F-22s, (Beyond the horizon) they went into supercruise mode. Drifting higher and higher, up to 18,000 meters elevation, they activated their laser-targetting guidance systems for the missiles under their wings. Then one by one.. they began to 'pickle' off their air-to-air payloads.

The AeroBlub Industries Improved Air to Air Ramjet Missiles streaked forward at better than Mach 5, screaming out of sight on firey trails of smoke. With a closing speed of about Mach 6.5 (F-22s tend to supercruise at about Mach 1.4) they followed their programmed flight paths of dropping down to 10,000 meters altitude and heading in the direction of the F-22s, which were still too far away to be seen at a range of 350 miles.

The 'eyes' of the missiles soon picked up on small lasers being beamed from the forward AWAC up towards the bellies of the F-22s. The AWAC painted the F-22s for the incoming IAARMs, which began to climb up to meet the F-22s. While still following the lasers, they activated a secondary failsafe IR tracking mode.

Locked on, 80 missiles thrust up towards the bellies of the F-22s.

With the F-22s total lack of defenses able to stop a laser beam, and the missiles' hard locks, it was very likely the Macgruber pilots would be completely exterminated, leaving Macgruber to wonder what had happened to their expensive little 'stealth' fighters.

The 'Macgruber' takes a shot in the head and the chest, he dies instantly. the attacker takes three shots in his chest. lucky he was wearing body armor and only cracked three ribs. He then aimed his gun at the Captain and fired at his head.

Outside the Humvee's 50 caliber machine guns begin firing at the planes (there are 10 of them.) the snipers fire toward the enemy and the ground based rocket soldiers fire there AT4 at the cargo bay.

Well not being able to stop your attack because you made it over 2000 miles in 30 seconds. All the planes blow up.


At all coastal cities the military is on high alert . Several (TASM) Tomahawk Anti-Ship Missiles are ready for launch. OOC: tell me when you get within 100km of my coast line.

My military is very large (numbers unknown due to losses and recruiting number lately). We use modern/advanced weapons and vehicles. We also have a large nuclear and chemical arsenal, but you shouldn't worry your self with that unless you use any on use first. we have a missile sheild (Not a energy sheild).

ooc: sorry to butt in but your nation is just barely four months old. Three months is the minimum for RPing any nuclear arsenal (and that's just a basic bomber dropped hiroshima-type A-bomb) At most, you have inaccurate medium ranged sub-kiloton missles. Your nation is way too young yet to have any ballistic missile sheild. Sorry. :(

Also, any attack on Zinairian's homeland will bring Karshkovia in regardless of what you wish since he is a stringent ally of mine. Choose your nuking carefully.

Mac, I see much potential for you but I would recommend you review Cost of nuclear program for your nation - reference thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542151). Unless your nation, via a reputed NS calcuator, can afford to spend a couple trillion dollars from your GDP on starting up and maintaining a nuclear program, you'd have to admit that nukes are out of your reach for now.

Also, the thread covering The Effects of Genocide/Mass Murder on Your Nation (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=431658) from our friendly moderator is a good thing to look at concidering it just happened in your nation.

If you want to kill large numbers of people who live with the rest of your populace, there will be reprocussions. People dont like seeing their friends / neighbours / schoolmates being dragged off and shot, and when they know someone personally they're unlikely to believe your media, especially as you are so blatant about what has happened.

If you want to run a country, even a dictatorship, you need support. The army, the lower administrators and the general public are all people. People do not generally like to see others murdered. If you dont try to cover up what you've done (as dictators like Hitler and Mugabe do in real life) or at least restrict your killing sprees to occassional isolated incidents which you keep fairly low-key media wise, then your nation will, in the end, destabilise. It may take decades, but it will happen evenutally, and probably when you least want it to - when you're at war, or when your nation is doing badly on the international scene and people are losing faith in your Government.

OOC: Just making sure, you do realize no one/thing is actually in the planes, right?

OOC: Well no one will go in it when there are large holes in it.

At the head office of Macgruber, the head military council pressures Macgruber into giving up the Men responsible for the massacre. Macgruber decides to have General Ho Ming sent to Zinaire to receive a trail.

Official message to Zinaire and The Blub Colony:We have decided to hand over the men responsible for the horrible attack(s). We will give all the victims of the attack free schooling and hospital care as long as they live. we would also like to apologize to Zinaire for killing all his men at the C-17s. I must also remind them that they tried to kill 'Macgruber'.

OOC: Karshkovia i really don't care what you have to say. step in! go ahead! Its a fucking game and everyone here is taking this game way to seriously. I'm out because I'm here to have fun not be a great world leader in pretend-o-land.

OOC: Uh...you didn't kill any yet...well only two. Are you still trying?

Taskforce 21, 500 miles offshore Macgruber

BCN Leyte

Admiral Grun stood in the CIC of Leyte, squinting down at a table with a realtime display of the region. His taskforce formed a tactically spread out cluster of blips in blue, while civilian air traffic and shipping were marked with either green for confirmed or yellow for unconfirmed. Intelligence satellites swept the Macgruber shores and inlands, which caused the display to mark a new red information note every few minutes as the information was downloaded. Intelligence specialists and planners were also gathered around, working either at the table or at computers in the CIC.

A Brigadier General wearing the uniform of the Colonial Marines stood across from him. General Hupp squinted down at the display with his eyestalks, occasionally hitting some buttons or bringing up menues with one tentacle as he examined the situation. "Damn, those Air Force boys whipped their Raptors good. I guess the Zulu is really living up to its reputation. Have they sent anything else at us since?"

The Admiral glanced up, "No, General. They got a very bloody nose by rushing in without proper support. I imagine they'll hang back a little longer and maybe try to coordinate with their allies. I expect they'll try to hit us as we close in on their beaches. Once they realize they can't possibly stop a full-scale attack on the beaches, they'll likely fall back further inland."

An aide looked up and cleared his throat, "Excuse me, Admiral but why can't they stop us on the beach?"

The Admiral looked to General Hupp who shook his head slowly at the youngster. He spoke quietly, "Son, do you know what it takes to fully secure hundreds of miles of vulnerable beach? Especially with Macgruber's budget. They're still a small nation, they don't HAVE the sort of assets needed to do it. Look at it like this:"

The General pointed to the map displaying Macgruber's coastline, "They're going to be spread all along here in a thin ass line. For some reason, people always do that. We only need to land enough troops and equipment in one spot to gain a beachead."

The aide looked at where the General was pointing, "It'll be dangerous."

"War is always dangerous, son. But in this day and age you simply CAN'T hope to fully stop a beachead. When has a defender ever stopped a determined enemy from landing? From Troy, to Gallipoli, from Normandy to Iwo Jima, troops were able to establish beacheads."

50 miles from Taskforce 21

A Coast Guard Marlin GMCIII (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13518861&postcount=40) assigned to the taskforce shadowed a large civilian cargo ship. The ship was being carefully examined visually and with other light spectrums. Overhead, a SH-20B Seacat looked down on the cargo ship.

Onboard, a radio operator looked to the Captain, "Cap'n, Seacat One reports there is nothing out of the ordinary. This one is clear."

The Marlin turned away, speeding off to intercept another unconfirmed civilian ship. All over the region, other corvettes were doing the same.

Back at the main Taskforce, a yellow marker on the map went green.


300 miles from Macgruber

Ahead of the main fleet, a skirmish line of Type 7 Aviso (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542256) corvettes were slowly manuvering towards the Macgruber coastline. Dozens of helicopters were dipping sensitive listening and scanning equipment into the seas, searching for submarines and mines. Effectively clearing a path for the fleet.

RIBs zipped back and forth with Blubs in orange life vests and military uniforms inside, searching visually with powerful binoculars for signs of ships on the horizon, in the very, very slim chance that Macgruber had somehow evaded the multiple levels of AWAC and Intelligence Gathering assets.

In the air

Escorted by both F-77 Zulu and F-28D Green Eagle fighter/strike configured aircraft, E-14B ESA (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12804963&postcount=31) aircraft were busy scouring the Macgruber shoreline from approximately 250 miles out, and 15,000 meters altitude. Waiting in a wolf trap, hidden in the blur of RADAR jamming cast by an E-10 Guardian at 3,000 meters above, were a pack of Nemesis Cruisers (http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4720/nemesisddcf5.png) waiting to take out any aircraft in the area that tried to step out and challenge the Colonial Navy's presence offshore.

The Colonial Navy was still on its way..

(Not anywhere near 100km yet.)

OOC:I'm out because I'm here to have fun not be a great world leader in pretend-o-land. Jesus read the last post.

OOC: Looks like I skurred away another dictator nugget. :$ *marks another win down*

OOC: i wouldn't call having no life a win!;)

ooc: Oh, you are one of those....

Sorry, Zinaire, I'll leave you to him....though it looks like you may be wasting your RP with another Doublewideville/godmodding character :(

OCC: yes guys with lives.

OOC: I don't think anyone out there would object to my total victory at this point. :D

OOC: Hell, Bulba, I'm not objecting and I'm you're enemy. This conflict sucked.

OOC: Hell, Bulba, I'm not objecting and I'm you're enemy. This conflict sucked.

OOC: Awww. We're not enemies. You just threw your support behind a stinker. :D Live and learn I suppose?