New Greali Invasion [MT, Open]
Leocardia
09-10-2008, 00:52
Background
Following the previous failures of invading Greal, the national embarrassment that the Leocardian government faced was brutal. Having to losing more than enough men in the conflict and get out with losing custody and property of the Makoki Isles, the Leocardians want it back. This was the time for their newest set goals, as Jason Batista, the old nation's father, has passed away, the new leader, His Highness Justin Morales has stepped in to Leocardian politics and his strict rule will retrieve what Leocardia lost for a long time.
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Whistling, Justin Morales came into every television box in Leocardia, at every channel, it was his shadow, whistling the Leocardian fight song. Through the shadow, you can hardly see his face, but it was enough to see his structure and know it was him. Behind him was a bright light showing the Leocardian flag, and it's motto underneath. The tall man looked rather relaxed, not stressed or in the aggressive mood to declare invasion, he was smiling.
Ten minutes of whistling he stopped and began to moisturize his mouth.
Dear citizens of Leocardia, what you have witnessed is another step of our history. Growing concern and worries about the future of our heartland, Batista was a great man, but what is even better is his nomination of picking me out as his replacement, may he rest with the Heavens above. Our nation has accumulated war debt from the past invasions on Greal and made a painstaking loss of custody on our Makoki Isles. The blame should not be towards Jason Batista, but on the lack of power and trained forces we acquired from allied fights. Dear fellow citizens, I come to tell you that we are ready for this glorious war to become victors, and we are going to retrieve our Makoki Isles that once belonged to us, and the sovereign nation of Greal will be part of Leocardia. We lost the first time, but without our morale of winning, today, we will win. Leocardians, united, we will win, because we are the best ethnicity ever on the face of this earth.
Basic Deployments
58th Army Group - 1,200,000
767th Lions Army Group - 1,500,000
1st Division - 50,000
2nd Division - 55,000
3rd Division - 44,000
4th Division - 34,758
17th Z-Team Division - 45,555
456th Battalion - 350
A-Team Special Forces Group - 890,000
454th Armored Group - 250,000 LNB-1 Main Battle Tanks
202nd GET-Team Armored Group - 125,000 'Dragon of the Northern Baltic' Tanks
12th Special Elite Armored Group - 50K M1A1 Abrams, 50K Mervakas, 50K Type 99s.
Leocardian International Honors Fleet
10 Invincible Class Carriers
30 Sovernmy Class Destroyers
10 Juki Class Superdreadnaughts
1,000 Amphibious Transport Crafts
5,000 Type 022 Houbei Class Missile FAC
The PeoplesFreedom
09-10-2008, 01:01
State Department Communication
The nation of Leocardia treading on dangerous grounds. The nation of Greal is an aspirant to the Feldala Accords, a group of some the most powerful nations on the planet. These nation include Macaabees, Lyras and Questers to name but a few. Furthuremore, the nation is located in Greater Dienstad and is under the protection of most of the nations in that region. We urge the Leocardian government to stand down before there is a wider war and the governments of Greater Dienstad are forced to intervene.
Official Communique
I think that the government of ThePeoplesFreedom has made its point quite clear to the Leocardians, and this is something that The Commonwealth of Zoingo agrees with. Any attempt made on Greal soil will be met not only with force but the backing of alliances and various nations that hold much influence around the world. If an attempt were made, this could most likely backfire on the nation of Leocardia, making them the invadees of their own invasion.
Kiravis Imperiax TelegraphiaKiravian Empire Communiqué
The Kiravian Empire formally condemns this attack on Greali territory. We stand by the statements of such esteemed nations as Zoingo and TPF, and warn Leocardia to retract its declaration and deployments before they become the victim.
Leistung
09-10-2008, 01:39
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Official Communiqué
Federal Republic of Leistung
To: Leocardia
From: Office of the President
Subj: Warning
We echo the sentiments of Zoingo, TPF, and Kirav, and would like to remind Leocardia that Greal is a member of the Oceanic Defense Coalition and under the protection of every other member state. An attack on Greali territory will be taken as an attack on the entire alliance.
Sincerely,
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Evan Bachmeier
Acting President of the Oceanic Defense Coalition
Stoklomolvi
09-10-2008, 01:46
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Stoklomolvi Commissariat of State
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi
Encryption Level 0, Null Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: General Statement
Stoklomolvi, bound to the defence of Greal by a Mutual Defence Pact, will honour this treaty should Leocardia invade Greal sovereign soil. While Stoklomolvi would much rather stand aside and watch the conflict unfold as we have our own problems to deal with, we must honour our treaty.
Regards,
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Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Commissar of Foreign Affairs
Signed,
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Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
New Greston
09-10-2008, 02:08
OOC: TG for you Lei. Also this is more or less a placehold for a later post.
Lord Sumguy
09-10-2008, 03:29
Official Diplomatic Communique:
I join the other nations that have made responses to this senseless aggression on behalf of Leocardia, and speak on behalf of the Hegemony and Oceanic Defense Coalition in stating that any attack upon Grealian territory will be seen as an attack upon both the Hegemony and ODECON and will be responded to as such. I advise that the Leocardian government retract it's statements and forces, lest it's aggression become it's own undoing.
Mary Basset
Foreign Secretary of ODECON
Interim Hegemon
Empress of the Holy Empire of Lord Sumguy
Mokastana
09-10-2008, 04:02
OFFICIAL DIPLOMATIC COMMUNICATION:
FROM: The Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Mokastana
TO: Leocardia
I can guarantee that this will not end well. I recommend calling this off before this war gets out of hand.
I bid your people good luck.
Charles Villa
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Spit break
09-10-2008, 05:06
FROM: His Excellency Chairman Daniel Nelles of Spit Break
TO: Leocardia
On behalf of my self and my people....no not even them, on behalf of all free peoples of this world I strongly urge you not to invade. Many nations of the world of already moved to counter you and urge you to stop as well. I can give you my personal promise that if you go ahead with this invasion that Spit Break will not sit by and watch it unfold. Instead we will not only send a counter invasion force but summon a emergency regional meeting and get approval to send in a full regional strike force and bring the full brunt of our regions 7,021,590,000 military personal down upon your nation if deemed necessary to do so.
Signed
His Excellency
Daniel Nelles
The Royal Code
09-10-2008, 05:12
(ooc: Not to be a total negative about this thread, but 525,000 battle tanks would drain a practical reserve of oil and/or fuel pretty quick. That said, the supply operation to keep that many tanks alone fueled, on top of all the other vehicles, would be a huge vulnerability, no matter how many fleets of ships you tried to protect the convoys with. That's all. Just thought i'd throw that out there as a practical observation.)
Free United States
09-10-2008, 06:56
Commonwealth Expeditionary Forces GHQ-Greal
General Dubrilobov sat in his command center. He'd been up since early morning, holding conferences with his command staff and also with various other Commands, including Joint Forces Command and Strategic Command. Currently, he was speaking to Admiral Tiblierovna, CO of the naval fleet still stationed by Greal.
"Their fleet looks sizable, but nothing we can't manage," she was saying. "Light carriers versus our super-carriers?" she referred to the five ships of the fleet, "Not a chance. One wing would suffice, I think."
"Don't underestimate an enemy," the General said coldly. His youthful eyes burned with a lustful glint, hoping these Leocardians were as foolish as they seemed to be.
"You look like you're enjoying this..." the Admiral returned. "No wonder they call you the Dux Bellorum."
"I hope I get the chance to teach these Leocardians why I was given that title," the General chuckled.
NAOC (National Air Operations Center)
Helheim ADB, CFUS
The retrofitted Airbus served as an aerial command center, and as it sat on the tarmac of the air base, that was exactly what it was doing. The Premier was holding a tele-conference with his Joint Chiefs, along with General Dubrilobov. He wouldn't admit it, but the General's cold stare was making him somewhat uneasy.
"We will only respond if Greal is attacked," he said in finality. He turned to face General Dubrilobov's screen, "No pre-emptive strikes. We are not a belligerent state."
"Understood, sir," a cool smile broke on the General's face. One by one, the screens blanked out, and the PRemier slouched back in his seat and sighed.
Southern Hexagon
09-10-2008, 07:12
The Holy Council of The Southern Hexagon fully stands behind Greal and condemns the belief of ethnic superiority by the inferior Leocardians.
A Statement was later said by one of the prominent leaders of The Holy Council:
"We defenders of the faith, must stand behind a fellow nation that is under possible attack by forces of Heresy. We are in total agreement with many other nations and agree that Leocardia must stand down! God bless us all if conflict breaks out."
Drvarska
09-10-2008, 07:50
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The United Citizens Federation of Drvarska will stand by the aid of Greal in this time of hate and conflict. We urge Leocardia to back down before they will be destroyed by a combined nation effort to repel them in their invasion.
Vladimir Orlov
President
UCFA
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Official Greal Statement
Ministry of Foreign Affairs
To: Leocardia
Encryption Level: None
Subject: RE: Invasion
This invasion will only lead to more unnecessary bloodshed. We echo the statements of our allies and urge Leocardia to retract its statements and forces before this spills into war.
Signed,
Martin Watson
President of Greal
Imperial Republic of Greal
OOC: I agree with The Royal Code. Even my whole military has less tanks then the number of tanks (525,0000) you're sending.
Stoklomolvi
09-10-2008, 08:08
[OOC: Greal, you're larger than I am, and you have fewer than a million tanks? Come on, Greal, just because he has 525,000 MBTs and you do not makes no difference, for he is two years older than you and also has a huge population. Consider Lyras; one of his small orders has 38.8 million men. MILLION men! That's...3,880 Stoklomolvi Imperial Guard divisions. It's not unrealistic, but just amazingly impractical.]
The PeoplesFreedom
09-10-2008, 08:23
OOC: Lyras is... a very special case. He rps it very well and responsibly- but its still inherently wanky.
OOC: You're right then. I also upped my tank numbers to one million instead.
The PeoplesFreedom
09-10-2008, 08:32
OOC: Please before people start raising their tank amounts to unreasonable levels, take a look at this (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=1406).
ooc: not to be a wet ballon or anything, but NS wars are really stupid with big nations, it turns into "you attack me, everyone i know squashes you" heh i've seen alot of war threads start out with two people that escalte into 1bagillion : 1 and its funny, so im just saying do you all really need to suppor greal if five or sixs nations support him IMO it takes the fun out of a war if the odds are You vs everyone.
Imperial isa
09-10-2008, 12:38
ooc then why don't you just don't read or post in them ,it's that easy
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"Greal again,bloodly hell why waste time with them"
said by a unknown Imperial Officer when hearing the News
ooc:Kewen is right but and hard to not be involved they all end up that way..I miss my old forums *tear*
The Phoenix Milita
09-10-2008, 13:46
007 Embassy Avenue, Sasha, Greal - 0830
Ralph Richards, Lieutenant Ambassador to Greal, walked into the ambassadors office with an armful of papers under his arm and closed the door. He looked at the ambassador and gave him a strange look followed by a quick nod. The ambassador recognized the signal and flipped a switch under his desk. A small device began to emanate an almost silent electronic jamming signal, blocking any and all eavesdropping devices.
"I know you were briefed earlier this morning sir, but the situation between Leocardia and Greal is deteriorating.. it appears an invasion of Greal is imminent." Ralph said laying out several reports and satellite photos in front of the ambassador.
"And you want to know what we should recommend to the Secretary of State..." Ambassador Jason Robson said inquisitively.
"Well, obviously we would rather have Greal remain... Greal... so, maybe we should institute an embargo against Leocardia, increase diplomatic pressure, call for international sanctions." Ralph suggested idealistically.
"No, no we will have none of this complicated, ineffective diplomatic process business. Besides, we don't want to get on anyone's radar." The ambassador dismissed the suggestion.
"Then what shall we do ambassador? " Richards asked.
"We'll do what we always do: declare neutrality, and use Phoenix Dynamix to secretly funnel weapons to the side we want to win, in this case The Imperial Republic of Greal." the ambassador said matter-of-factly.
"Very well, I will contact Greal leadership through the usual back channels." Lt. Ambassador Richards said as he folded his papers back up and turned to leave.
"Will you notify Secretary Merillion too for me? I have a massag... lunch appointment I can't miss." The ambassador said sheepishly.
"Of course, sir" Ralph said with a sigh as he left the room.
Phoenix, AZ, TPM - A few hours later,
The Phoenix Milita is very disturbed by the expansionist threats being made by Leocardia against Greal, but at this time, we pledge to remain neutral if a conflict erupts. We urge both sides to attempt to resolve their differences diplomatically. We would also like to caution all of those involved that it would be a mistake to upset what little stability the region has in this way.
-Robert Merillion, Secretary of State, The Phoenix Milita
A dark alley, somewhere in Sasha, Greal - around the same time
Ralph Richards passed dropped a small slip of paper into a garbage can in the middle of an alley. He then ducked around the corner, into his still running car, and had his driver take them out of the area as quicly as possible. A few moments later a man in a trenchcoat reached into the garbage can and put the note in his pocket.
The man in the trenchcoat would deliver the message to an agent of Greal's government.
The note contained brief but specific details on the plan to supply weapons, ammunition and supplies covertly to Greal, if they needed it.
Spit break
10-10-2008, 00:19
OOC: The point of big nations is that we can manage offensive wars more since when your little defense is your worry because your so small. Large nations like my self should also know from experience that just sending all your troops in the plow down the enemy is a waste of time, point of NS wars is two sides (or more) with relative equal numbers fighting it out. I may threaten to send in this mass 7 billion personal army, but realistically for my entire region at least 2 billion would be kept for homeland defense, and then the rest would be spread about the many military branches but never would a responsible large player send there entire army its over kill and just ruins the fun, now say 100,000 - 300,000 initially is good and because your big you also have reserves meaning from a political stand point if the defender can hold out long enough the big guy probably will just go home
Dostanuot Loj
10-10-2008, 02:55
OOC: Technicly speaking, 525,000 tanks of that quality will require about 15 million support personnel alone. Tack on combat personnel, and other servies and support.
And for the record, I have likely the largest armoured force on NS by a long shot, and I barely maintain 1 million active tanks. And that's with a small navy and an air force, infantry, artillery, everything dedicated to the tanks. I highly doubt most nations newer then early 2005 could compete with even half a million active tanks, let alone carry any power projection. Early 2003/late 2003 nations can afford half a million, with some power projection, but they're still concentrating on the tank (Most equip half a million or more total, and keep 200k active).
The Royal Code
10-10-2008, 04:49
(ooc: oh wow, i stirred up quite a lot! *facepalm* At least i'm not alone on that viewpoint.=] )
Leocardia
12-10-2008, 04:57
Naval Front
Leocardian ships reached their destination point, which was 100km away from the closest point of enemy territorial waters and Greal. The ships were sure to never cross the territorial line or else they would look as another invasive nation to another. The Juki Class SDs readied their long-ranged missiles. Twenty-five from each side, totaling fifty missiles. To also provide a potential threat, five of the missiles were plutonium-tipped. The Houbei Class Missile FACs waited for additional orders.
New orders were sent to the naval crew to head toward the Makoki Isles.
Kika Mana, Leocardia's Capitol City
A telegram was sent out to Greal for options to control this situation.
Dear Grealites,
I am Justin Morales, new President of Leocardia. And what I have pledged for my nation is to retrieve the Makoki Isles we lost to your nation. We request the fact that the Makoki Isles be handed over back to Leocardia, and we will cease all hostilities with your nation, as well as your allies' hostilities. All we ask is the Isles, and our diplomacy can be resetted. Please think about this for the sake of the useless killings and deaths of our own people.
Free United States
12-10-2008, 05:28
Naval Front
Leocardian ships reached their destination point, which was 100km away from the closest point of enemy territorial waters and Greal. The ships were sure to never cross the territorial line or else they would look as another invasive nation to another. The Juki Class SDs readied their long-ranged missiles. Twenty-five from each side, totaling fifty missiles. To also provide a potential threat, five of the missiles were plutonium-tipped. The Houbei Class Missile FACs waited for additional orders.
New orders were sent to the naval crew to head toward the Makoki Isles.
Kika Mana, Leocardia's Capitol City
A telegram was sent out to Greal for options to control this situation.
Dear Grealites,
I am Justin Morales, new President of Leocardia. And what I have pledged for my nation is to retrieve the Makoki Isles we lost to your nation. We request the fact that the Makoki Isles be handed over back to Leocardia, and we will cease all hostilities with your nation, as well as your allies' hostilities. All we ask is the Isles, and our diplomacy can be resetted. Please think about this for the sake of the useless killings and deaths of our own people.
Commonwealth 5th Fleet, 50 nm W. Makoki Is.
The flagship of the fleet, the Nimean Lion, turned into the wind as fighters were prepared for take off. Nearby, the other four carriers were similarly engaged. Their support ships, battleships, cruisers and destroyers.
"The fleet's ready," the XO, Captain Markov said.
"Roger that," Admiral Tiblierovna said as her eyes narrowed, viewing the situation board. "Ready a broadcast."
Leocardian vessels, stand to and turn course 180. Your path will take you into Greali territorial waters. Commonwealth forces within Greal will take this gesture as hostile if you do not change course immediately.
Commonwealth Expeditionary Forces GHQ, Greal
General Dubrilobov watched similar screens in his command center. Unlike the Admiral, whose eyes had narrowed in weariness, a smile crossed his face, a devious and lustful smile. Once more, he'd been given an enemy. Blessed be...
"Move the missile battalions into position to defend the coastline. Have them support the naval defensive forces."
"Yes sir," his general staff answered.
Helheim ADB, Commonwealth
Back on NAOC, the Premier was being informed with the commanders and strategists. His eyes were weary from hours of meetings and reviewing data.
"Draft a message to their government," he said finally.
Leocardian government, the Commonwealth condemns your aggressive acts against Greal. Your own foolishness caused this current situation, and you have lost claim to those Isles in question. As such, any aggression towards Greal is recognized by this nation as a hostile act against our own sovereignty, and we will take any and all measures to ensure Greal's security.
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~Office of the President~
Any action taken against the sovereign state of Greal by Leocardia will result in a declaration of war against your nation. You have forty-eight (48) hours to stand down your threats against our ally or face the consequences of your foolish aggression.
Signed,
Ingram Jonathan Hasley
~President of the Democratic Republic of Cazatania
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Official Message to: leocardia
The Allied states of Dawoad hereby gives you 24 hours notice. If you have not withdrawn your hostile forces near Greal by that time we will be at a states of war with your nation.
Signed,
Jarek Mace
Prime minister of the ASD
Stoklomolvi
12-10-2008, 06:05
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Stoklomolvi Commissariat of State
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi
Encryption Level 0, Null Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: Declaration
Stoklomolvi retracts its statements of aid to Greal after Greal declared war on us during our civil war. We hereby cancel our mutual defence pact with Greal, we hereby detonate the fusion reactor in the Stoklomolvi embassy to Greal, and we hereby reciprocate the declaration of war. Stoklomolvi will assume total war with the traitorous bastards in the everdamned Greali "state," which we shall no longer recognise, declare to be the worst traitor in the history of Stoklomolvi, and ruled by a hyper-intelligent aubergine.
Regards,
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Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Commissar of Foreign Affairs
Signed,
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Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
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Stoklomolvi Commissariat of State
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi
Encryption Level 0, Null Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: Declaration
Stoklomolvi retracts its statements of aid to Greal after Greal declared war on us during our civil war. We hereby cancel our mutual defence pact with Greal, we hereby detonate the fusion reactor in the Stoklomolvi embassy to Greal, and we hereby reciprocate the declaration of war. Stoklomolvi will assume total war with the traitorous bastards in the everdamned Greali "state," which we shall no longer recognise, declare to be the worst traitor in the history of Stoklomolvi, and ruled by a hyper-intelligent aubergine.
Regards,
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Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Commissar of Foreign Affairs
Signed,
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Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
Official Communique
The Commonwealth of Zoingo is appauled at both the Leocardians and Stocklomolvi. Leocardia has in iteslf, foolishly started its naval forces towards the Greali shores. This is not only foolish, but utterly and downright stupid in ignoring the international community and its outcry on the matter, as well as the forces that is apparently backed by their threats of retaliation upon Leocardia if it invades Greal. We echo what our fellow people say, turn back or find yourself at the bottom of the ocean rather than at the Greal coastline. We shake our heads at you, and hope that one day that you will learn....
Stocklomolvi, this is truly shocking, this is one of those "Whoa, didn't see that one coming!" moments. But never the less, if you are intent of hurting our ally, then we have no choice but to delcare a state of war exists between us.
Free United States
12-10-2008, 06:21
Commonwealth Expeditionary Forces GHQ, Greal
"Well, this is certainly a quandary," General Dubrilobov muttered, "But a welcome one."
"General...?" Tiblierovna asked.
"One should never have too easy an enemy," the General answered, "Though, in warfare, it is decidedly the preferred enemy."
Leocardia
12-10-2008, 18:20
Kika Mana
The messages reached the government of Leocardia, which puzzled Justin Morales, resulting a counter-message.
How dare you threaten the Great Nation of Leocardia? We are in International Waters and pose no threat. Declare war as you wish, but you have no justifiable right to attack us.
Leocardia
12-10-2008, 18:23
Commonwealth 5th Fleet, 50 nm W. Makoki Is.
The flagship of the fleet, the Nimean Lion, turned into the wind as fighters were prepared for take off. Nearby, the other four carriers were similarly engaged. Their support ships, battleships, cruisers and destroyers.
"The fleet's ready," the XO, Captain Markov said.
"Roger that," Admiral Tiblierovna said as her eyes narrowed, viewing the situation board. "Ready a broadcast."
Commonwealth Expeditionary Forces GHQ, Greal
General Dubrilobov watched similar screens in his command center. Unlike the Admiral, whose eyes had narrowed in weariness, a smile crossed his face, a devious and lustful smile. Once more, he'd been given an enemy. Blessed be...
"Move the missile battalions into position to defend the coastline. Have them support the naval defensive forces."
"Yes sir," his general staff answered.
Helheim ADB, Commonwealth
Back on NAOC, the Premier was being informed with the commanders and strategists. His eyes were weary from hours of meetings and reviewing data.
"Draft a message to their government," he said finally.
Naval Forces
The Leocardian ships fired a salvo shot to send a clear message they aren't scared.
Imbrinium
12-10-2008, 18:46
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To: Nation of Leocardia
From: The Kingdom of Imbrinium
Subject: Greal
Take this as far warning, if any missile or projectile is launched or fired at any ship or land targets in the nation of greal. We will come after you with the full force of our nations military. This is your only warning.
The kingdom of Imbrinium
Leocardia
12-10-2008, 18:48
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To: Nation of Leocardia
From: The Kingdom of Imbrinium
Subject: Greal
Take this as far warning, if any missile or projectile is launched or fired at any ship or land targets in the nation of greal. We will come after you with the full force of our nations military. This is your only warning.
The kingdom of Imbrinium
Official Leocardian Response
We do not fear your threats.
Official Leocardian Response
We do not fear your threats.
Official Communique
It is that same non-fear that will lead to your dimise if you don't stop and look at the 10 or so nations that are highly against you.
Leocardia
12-10-2008, 18:53
Official Communique
It is that same non-fear that will lead to your dimise if you don't stop and look at the 10 or so nations that are highly against you.
Official Leocardian Response
Ten nations against a pack of Leocardia's fifteen alliances. We will see your demise.
The PeoplesFreedom
12-10-2008, 18:58
OOC: 15 dead alliances. I'd actually recommend everybody ignore him. He's a obvious troll.
Ustio North
12-10-2008, 19:00
Word of Leocardia's threat of invasion reached Ustio, and Prime Minister McCartney was quick to react, ordering the Battlegroup Queen Sarah V to move in to support the defence of Greal. Although it could be over before it begins, the PM wanted Ustian ships to be there just in case,
International Waters
HMS Queen Sarah V, a Queen Elizabeth Class Carrier, sliced through the ocean waves en-route to Greal. The battlegroup was all around her:
Carrier Battlegroup Queen Sarah V ORBAT
Ustian Royal Navy - 16 Ships
x3 Queen Elizbeth Class Carriers (HMS Queen Sarah V, King Jacob II & Lord Constantine)
x2 Modernised Iowa Class Battleships (HMS Lancelot & Bors)
x4 Type 45 Destroyers
x4 Type 23 Frigates
x2 Typhoon Class Submarines
x1 Albion Class Amphibious Assault Ship
Fleet Air Arm - 78 Aircraft
x60 F-35C's
x4 E-2 Hawkeye
x10 Tu-160's (Operating From Bases In Ustio)
x4 Lun Class Ekranoplan
OOC: Make that 11, with Army & Air Force ORBATs coming later
OOC: 15 dead alliances. I'd actually recommend everybody ignore him. He's a obvious troll.
ooc: agreed, havent most of these collapsed like a few months ago?
Official Leocardian Response
Ten nations against a pack of Leocardia's fifteen alliances. We will see your demise.
Official Communique
Fifteen alliances that are dead? Come now, threats with no backing will do you no good.
Free United States
12-10-2008, 19:11
"Incoming fire," reported the TAO. The warning salvo splashed harmlessly nearby.
"Activate Jormungandr," Admiral Tiblierovna ordered.
Like the AEGIS system all the Commonwealth ships were equipped with, Jormungandr was a defensive platform. Instead of a networked system for a single ship, however, Jormungandr interlinked all defensive and offensive platforms within the fleet, creating a veritable shield over the sea.
A screen appeared in the espers of the CIC, and the Admiral turned to see General Dubrilobov.
"They've fired a warning salvo," she informed him.
"Smite them from the seas," the General snarled.
The casemates of cruisers, destroyers and frigates opened, revealing rows of surface-to-surface Harpoon missiles. Heavy cruisers and battleships traversed their turrets, firing their first salvos of transuranic slugs towards the invading ships. As the barrage began, dozens of missiles were launched, trained on the Leocardian fleet.
In the sky, holding in a pattern to stay out of the initial barrage, more than 400+ combat aircraft waited to be called into action.
Stoklomolvi
12-10-2008, 19:21
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Stoklomolvi Commissariat of State
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi
Encryption Level 0, Null Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: Declaration of War
We feel that Zoingo did not read the reason for our declaration of war carefully. If you knew about the history between Greal and Stoklomolvi, then you would have known that Greal had been a good ally of Stoklomolvi until it suddenly turned around and declared war on us when it was supporting us with troops in our country. We urge the world to reconsider allying itself with this traitor.
Regards,
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Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Commissar of Foreign Affairs
Signed,
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Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
Emperor Nero
12-10-2008, 19:24
OOC: I was thinking throwing my nation into the mix, but had a couple questions. Apparently this island changed hands at some point, and I am curious if it is near any of the warring nations' homelands. I would also like to have an idea how big the islands are? Thanks in advance.
Intracircumcordei
12-10-2008, 19:45
ICS:
As relayed through the logothes office to diplomatic corridors of Leocardia.
Leocardia, we require you to pay a tribute of 500 Billion NS$ for us to stay out of this war. If you do not pay this fee, then we will enter the war against you.
This is an official message from the Logothe of the Drome ICCD. You have 1 week to reply.
(ICCD goes into it's third highest security level, and puts all active duty personnel on alert status)
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Official Message to: leocardia
We are sorry to inform you that the ASD is now at war with Leocardia. Good day to you sirs.
Signed,
Jarek Mace
Ustio North
12-10-2008, 20:17
Battlegroup Queen Sarah V, Approaching Free United States-Leocardia Staging Area
Captain Mitchell, head of the Battlegroup and Captain of HMS Queen Sarah V, stood on the bridge of the ship. He raised his binoculars to his eyes, scanning the horizon for any signs of friendly forces - or enemy forces - in the immediate area. He lowered the binoculars, looking around the bridge at the others. They too were looking for other ships. Mitchell checked the radar, but before he could look up a shout from one of the junior officers caused him to jump
"SIR! I see a ship off the port bow!" called the officer
Mitchell quickly turned to look in the direction he was pointing. Sure enough, a grey shape was plainly visible. He looked up the ships mast for a flag - a red flag with a hammer & sickle. He recognised the flag - The Free United States
He picked up the radio
"Hailing Free United States Ships, Hailing Free United States Ships" he began "This is Ustian Battlegroup Queen Sarah V. I understand we have similar goals"
To: All nations involded
I think, there could be a peaceful way. However, i do agree to Stoklomolvi. Greal betrayed him. But, i want, atleast to try, a peaceful solution. I say we all try to find a other way. If we cant find this way, i will help invade greal, to make peace in this nation. If we invade him, kill there goverment, we could end it. But we can find a talking way. But, its just an idea.
Ustio North
12-10-2008, 20:24
To: All nations involded
I think, there could be a peaceful way. However, i do agree to Stoklomolvi. Greal betrayed him. But, i want, atleast to try, a peaceful solution. I say we all try to find a other way. If we cant find this way, i will help invade greal, to make peace in this nation. If we invade him, kill there goverment, we could end it. But we can find a talking way. But, its just an idea.
OOC: Wow, that's a first - Roef wanting to solve an international crisis peacefully, rather than nuking all involved.
OOC: Well, when did i nuke somebody BEFORE i tried to find a peaceful way? Dont you understand, i dont like to see my own soldiers die. I say we make peace, and if not, we can always later nuke him if you realy want to.
Leistung
12-10-2008, 20:32
To: All nations involded
I think, there could be a peaceful way. However, i do agree to Stoklomolvi. Greal betrayed him. But, i want, atleast to try, a peaceful solution. I say we all try to find a other way. If we cant find this way, i will help invade greal, to make peace in this nation. If we invade him, kill there goverment, we could end it. But we can find a talking way. But, its just an idea.
OOC: Yes, please invade Greal. I would love to get an IC reason to invade you.
The PeoplesFreedom
12-10-2008, 20:33
OOC: Please do not clutter the thread with useless sniping.
The irritated
12-10-2008, 21:23
The free Land of the irritated is discusted at this pointless bloodshed in the sole name of authorityand power. We request you to imagine what would be possible if the hundreds of trillions spent on weapons each year were instead spent on medical reasearch or social equality programs? It is aggresive nations like these that are and have been for mellenia destroying the freedom and lives of the people of this planet.
ooc: my time is short, so I have to skip on fancy details
To: All nations involded
I think, there could be a peaceful way. However, i do agree to Stoklomolvi. Greal betrayed him. But, i want, atleast to try, a peaceful solution. I say we all try to find a other way. If we cant find this way, i will help invade greal, to make peace in this nation. If we invade him, kill there goverment, we could end it. But we can find a talking way. But, its just an idea.
To: Roef
You do realize that most of us are against the Leocardian Invasion, right? But at least you are thinking of diplomacy to solve the matter.
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To: All Nations (Mostly Stocklomolvi and Greal)
This leaves us then in a very awkward position, with Greal on one hand, who has the backing of several nations. And Stocklomilvi on the other, who has very justifiable actions on why to invade Greal. And with Leocardia a very small minute factor right now. It seems that there is no right answer in our minds on who to support, as supporting either faction seems like we would be backstabbing someone we don't want to. Maybe a diplomatic way to solve this first before Zoingo is tossed relentlessly into the flames?
In the meantime, military basses from both parties of the conflict in Zoingo are hearby under lockdown and may not engage the other faction.
Salzland
12-10-2008, 21:30
OOC: Whelp, I'd like to say good-bye to The Free Land of the Irritated. It was nice to know you, and I'm sorry that you were wiped off the face of the Earth for those remarks...
IC: The Government of Salzland at this time is over-committed, and unable to stick its nose into other peoples' business.
Free United States
13-10-2008, 05:15
Battlegroup Queen Sarah V, Approaching Free United States-Leocardia Staging Area
Captain Mitchell, head of the Battlegroup and Captain of HMS Queen Sarah V, stood on the bridge of the ship. He raised his binoculars to his eyes, scanning the horizon for any signs of friendly forces - or enemy forces - in the immediate area. He lowered the binoculars, looking around the bridge at the others. They too were looking for other ships. Mitchell checked the radar, but before he could look up a shout from one of the junior officers caused him to jump
"SIR! I see a ship off the port bow!" called the officer
Mitchell quickly turned to look in the direction he was pointing. Sure enough, a grey shape was plainly visible. He looked up the ships mast for a flag - a red flag with a hammer & sickle. He recognised the flag - The Free United States
He picked up the radio
"Hailing Free United States Ships, Hailing Free United States Ships" he began "This is Ustian Battlegroup Queen Sarah V. I understand we have similar goals"
"Comrade-Admiral," the Comm officer announced. "Incoming message from Ustian Battle Group."
"On screen," Tiblierovna ordered.
"It is audio only," he responded.
"Play it then," she chuckled. After the CIC heard the message, she picked up a microphone. "Patch me in," the Admiral said, to which the Comm officer complied.
"Ustian Commander, this is Admiral Tiblierovna of the Commonwealth Fifth Fleet. I do believe you're right. Our current goal is to blockade their fleet's advance with artillery and missile barrages. Our fighters are in holding to commence attack, along with a contingent staying behind for CAP. We would appreciate any support you can offer, and are willing to coordinate efforts."
Leocardia
13-10-2008, 05:55
Official Communique
Fifteen alliances that are dead? Come now, threats with no backing will do you no good.
Official Response
Dead? We laugh at your assumptions.
When your nation reaches a demise,
do not cry back for a surrenderence
treaty.
Leocardia
13-10-2008, 05:56
ICS:
As relayed through the logothes office to diplomatic corridors of Leocardia.
Leocardia, we require you to pay a tribute of 500 Billion NS$ for us to stay out of this war. If you do not pay this fee, then we will enter the war against you.
This is an official message from the Logothe of the Drome ICCD. You have 1 week to reply.
(ICCD goes into it's third highest security level, and puts all active duty personnel on alert status)
ICS:
Leocardia will fulfill your requests, but we will also deliver a $1.5T payment package to your nation having involve to side with Leocardia in this invasion.
Leocardia
13-10-2008, 06:01
Battlegroup Queen Sarah V, Approaching Free United States-Leocardia Staging Area
Captain Mitchell, head of the Battlegroup and Captain of HMS Queen Sarah V, stood on the bridge of the ship. He raised his binoculars to his eyes, scanning the horizon for any signs of friendly forces - or enemy forces - in the immediate area. He lowered the binoculars, looking around the bridge at the others. They too were looking for other ships. Mitchell checked the radar, but before he could look up a shout from one of the junior officers caused him to jump
"SIR! I see a ship off the port bow!" called the officer
Mitchell quickly turned to look in the direction he was pointing. Sure enough, a grey shape was plainly visible. He looked up the ships mast for a flag - a red flag with a hammer & sickle. He recognised the flag - The Free United States
He picked up the radio
"Hailing Free United States Ships, Hailing Free United States Ships" he began "This is Ustian Battlegroup Queen Sarah V. I understand we have similar goals"
Naval Front
All ships were fully informed that there were more than two naval fleets after them, but this is what their fleet is designed to take, especially the Juki Class SD. The Houbei Class Missile FACs loaded their ships with Khans and Moskits before knowing they will be shooting them at the enemy ships. The Juki crew readied themselves and tested the rapid missile-shot auto-loader, capable of loading and shooting 5 khans every 20 minutes per missile silo. The fleet was ready, and it would take just a few to completely annihilate an entire enemy fleet.
Leocardia
13-10-2008, 06:05
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Official Message to: leocardia
We are sorry to inform you that the ASD is now at war with Leocardia. Good day to you sirs.
Signed,
Jarek Mace
To DaWoad
From the Worker's Republic of Leocardia
We are sorry you have declared war on our great country without reason. Please be aware when you do realize that you need to establish a surrenderence treaty we will not correspond the terms, because you declared war on us unjustifiably incorrect. Thank you for existing and becoming a nation of assholes.
Free United States
13-10-2008, 06:10
Naval Front
All ships were fully informed that there were more than two naval fleets after them, but this is what their fleet is designed to take, especially the Juki Class SD. The Houbei Class Missile FACs loaded their ships with Khans and Moskits before knowing they will be shooting them at the enemy ships. The Juki crew readied themselves and tested the rapid missile-shot auto-loader, capable of loading and shooting 5 khans every 20 minutes per missile silo. The fleet was ready, and it would take just a few to completely annihilate an entire enemy fleet.
ooc: you do realize i've already commenced my attack, right?
Leocardia
13-10-2008, 06:15
ooc: you do realize i've already commenced my attack, right?
ooc: nope. because i don't see it.
i only see you talking to u.north about
your jets holding to commence, but you
never said when they are commencing.
Free United States
13-10-2008, 06:21
ooc: check pp. 3
ic:
Overhead, the 3rd Air Force was ready to commence its own attack. A flight of B-92 Shrikes exited supercruise mode as they targetted the Leocardian superdreadnoughts with GBU-27 Paveways, dropping the armor-piercing munitions at the same moment the first rounds of the battleships salvos would be delivered.
Orbat:
5 Gibralter-class carriers
6 Concordia-class battleships
20 Xerxes-class Heavy cruisers
32 cruisers
35 Shariyar-class missile frigates
45 Priam-class destroyers
4 Alpha Mk III attack submarines
1 Typhoon-class ballistic missile submarine
Leocardia
13-10-2008, 06:41
The Leocardian ships were alarmed at the sudden appearances of enemy jets as their armor piercing munitions were dropped in an line, specifically targeting the superdreadnaughts. Several automated anti-aerial defensive systems picked up the enemy jets and fired SA-N-6 immediately during salvo shot exercises. The Houbei Classes fired their anti-air guns all over the air, making sure none of the planes would leave the scene in perfect looks. The muntions dropped ripped through one of the enormous Juki Class decks. Black smoke enraged from the decks, as the crew rushed out and tried to tame the flames. The ship's hull was also pierced and major leakage was sited. Up to 13 major hatches were shut, with 43 minor hatches sealed to halt it's sinking, a total of 322 died in the incident.
The Leocardian ships began to seek for enemy ships, noticing a few in range, firing long-ranged Khans, immediately at the ships, to ensure immediate sinkage. Torpedo pods from another Juki Class fired away in their torpedoes, as well as launching several YJ-82 naval missiles, reloading and launching another pack of YJ-82's at the enemy fleet. Unloading the quarter of the total stockpile of the missile.
Free United States
13-10-2008, 06:50
"Automated systems responding," the TAO replied.
With Jormungandr active, all incoming attacks were tallied into the computer networks, with fire orders sent to the appropriate ships and their CIWS systems. Needle-mine chaff systems were deployed, leaving a haze of protective radar-jamming metal in the sky above. From the larger cruisers and destroyers on the outer rim, SeaRAM missiles fired to intercept the incoming missiles.
The cruisers, destroyers and battleships fired with their naval guns, the Concordia's with their 18 in. transuranic rounds, down to the destroyers 75mm naval cannons.
There were multiple thunderclaps as the Shrikes went back into supersonic, dropping decoy cruise missiles and 'farewell' GBU's on their targets.
From their holding pattern, the first wave of 100 fighters, the Carrier Air Wing of the Crimean Lion, fired air-to-surface Exocet missiles towards the enemy fleet.
From the Miroka(?) Isles, the Commonwealth's 9th Artillery Battalion fired Patriot and Tomahawk missiles towards the enemy fleet.
OOC: Leocardia, I don't remember any treaty being signed when I last fought you. The Allied forces drove your guys out of my nation, and there was no mention of the Makoki Isles.
Ustio North
13-10-2008, 11:32
"Comrade-Admiral," the Comm officer announced. "Incoming message from Ustian Battle Group."
"On screen," Tiblierovna ordered.
"It is audio only," he responded.
"Play it then," she chuckled. After the CIC heard the message, she picked up a microphone. "Patch me in," the Admiral said, to which the Comm officer complied.
"Ustian Commander, this is Admiral Tiblierovna of the Commonwealth Fifth Fleet. I do believe you're right. Our current goal is to blockade their fleet's advance with artillery and missile barrages. Our fighters are in holding to commence attack, along with a contingent staying behind for CAP. We would appreciate any support you can offer, and are willing to coordinate efforts."
"All ahead stop. Activate CIWS Defence System" called Mitchell, picking up the radio again "All aircraft, prepare for intercept"
On the deck below him, pilots rushed to their F-35C's that were waiting on deck. Pilots from the other carriers followed suit, and soon the sky was filled with jets. The carriers and friagates stopped some distance from the FUS ships, keeping them out of range of any attacks
"Send in Lancelot and Bors" Mitchell said over his radio, watching the nearby submarines dissapear into the murky depths. No sooner than he had said this, the two battleships and the four destroyers moved into position alongside the FUS ships. HMS Lancelot & HMS Bors, both veteran ships of the Fleet, had recently been re-equipped during the Greston-Ryou war to include Tomahawk missile launchers, CIWS defences and new 16-inch guns which allowed them to fire chemical tipped shells, along with new armour plating around the ammuntion dump.
Once in position, they quickly aqquired a GPS co-ordinate lock on the nearest ship, firing a pair of Tomahawks each, as two Lun Class Ekranoplans streaked in from behind them, firing a salvo of 12 SS-N-12 Sunburn AshM at the Leocardian ships.
From: The Corporate Kingdom-Anarchy of Wartom
To: Every nation involved in this war
I, as the CEO-King of Raptor Books inc, the current corporation to rule Wartom, would like to ask any of the involved in this war if they would be willing to be sponsored by our company. Commercials on the uniforms of the soldiers perhaps. We would pay a tidy sum for this, of course. Maybe something like: "BUY RAPTOR BOOKS, THE SOLDIERS FIGHTING THIS USELESS WAR DO!". Are you willing?
Free United States
13-10-2008, 13:41
"All ahead stop. Activate CIWS Defence System" called Mitchell, picking up the radio again "All aircraft, prepare for intercept"
On the deck below him, pilots rushed to their F-35C's that were waiting on deck. Pilots from the other carriers followed suit, and soon the sky was filled with jets. The carriers and friagates stopped some distance from the FUS ships, keeping them out of range of any attacks
"Send in Lancelot and Bors" Mitchell said over his radio, watching the nearby submarines dissapear into the murky depths. No sooner than he had said this, the two battleships and the four destroyers moved into position alongside the FUS ships. HMS Lancelot & HMS Bors, both veteran ships of the Fleet, had recently been re-equipped during the Greston-Ryou war to include Tomahawk missile launchers, CIWS defences and new 16-inch guns which allowed them to fire chemical tipped shells, along with new armour plating around the ammuntion dump.
Once in position, they quickly aqquired a GPS co-ordinate lock on the nearest ship, firing a pair of Tomahawks each, as two Lun Class Ekranoplans streaked in from behind them, firing a salvo of 12 SS-N-12 Sunburn AshM at the Leocardian ships.
From: The Corporate Kingdom-Anarchy of Wartom
To: Every nation involved in this war
I, as the CEO-King of Raptor Books inc, the current corporation to rule Wartom, would like to ask any of the involved in this war if they would be willing to be sponsored by our company. Commercials on the uniforms of the soldiers perhaps. We would pay a tidy sum for this, of course. Maybe something like: "BUY RAPTOR BOOKS, THE SOLDIERS FIGHTING THIS USELESS WAR DO!". Are you willing?
ooc: wartom= FAIL
ic:
"Jormungandr compensating for new ships, setting new IFF," TAO announced to the Admiral. There was a sudden 'womph' sound, and the TAO quickly scanned the threat board. "Cruiser Dawn's Glory hit by enemy missile, light casualties...ship is still 60% operational."
The Admiral nodded, not responding other than that. She knew that, well before this battle was over, more ships would be lost. As if to iterate that, the TAO announced the destruction of the destroyer Priam's Fate. Other ships had moved in to fill the gap and conduct CSAR operations.
Zot109land
13-10-2008, 16:14
i send support to greal
1.000.000 men armed whit m16 (whit bayonets) (yes i have something whit bayonets)
60.000 m1 abrahams
20.000 men whit bazoka's
60.000 men whit ak-47
10.000 hospiks
10.000 submarines
500 aircraft cariers
that was all
ooc;maybe this are unreal numbers but plz don't kick me out and this is my only post in this topic
Free United States
13-10-2008, 16:57
i send support to greal
1.000.000 men armed whit m16 (whit bayonets) (yes i have something whit bayonets)
60.000 m1 abrahams
20.000 men whit bazoka's
60.000 men whit ak-47
10.000 hospiks
10.000 submarines
50.000 aircraft cariers
that was all
ooc;maybe this are unreal numbers but plz don't kick me out and this is my only post in this topic
ooc: way too unreal, considering your nations size. I would say you'd need to drastically reduce your numbers to even be taken seriously. until then, (in my case at least), your post will be ignored.
To DaWoad
From the Worker's Republic of Leocardia
We are sorry you have declared war on our great country without reason. Please be aware when you do realize that you need to establish a surrenderence treaty we will not correspond the terms, because you declared war on us unjustifiably incorrect. Thank you for existing and becoming a nation of assholes.
OOC: ow! ow ow ow! hey now :( *goes off and pouts*
IC:
To: the workers republic of Leocardia.
Message:
"nuts"
Blue Cove Naval Base
First, Second and Third Fleets were all mobilizing to Move to defend Greal as MIF1 and the protectorates own as well as eighth fleet geared up for another, more challenging mission.
Zot109land
13-10-2008, 17:02
ooc: way too unreal, considering your nations size. I would say you'd need to drastically reduce your numbers to even be taken seriously. until then, (in my case at least), your post will be ignored.
The Dictatorship of Zot109land
"[zot109] DE ALMACHTIGE DICTATOR BOVEN ALLES! "
Category: Father Knows Best State
Civil Rights:
Some Economy:
Very Strong Political Freedoms:
Outlawed
Location: Hollandica Regional Influence: Power
The Dictatorship of Zot109land is a huge, safe nation, renowned for its complete absence of social welfare. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, cynical population of 957 million are ruled by a mostly-benevolent dictator, who grants the populace the freedom to live their own lives but watches carefully for anyone to slip up.
It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt government stops and the rest of society begins, but it juggles the competing demands of Defence, Law & Order, and Education. The average income tax rate is 100%. A healthy private sector is dominated by the Arms Manufacturing industry.
The latest Harry Potter book is a bestseller, travellers are often forcibly evicted by torch-bearing mobs, Zot109land's army is full of two-metre tall super-soldiers, and the controversial show 'Who Wants to be an Immigrant?' has become wildly popular. Crime -- especially youth-related -- is totally unknown, thanks to the all-pervasive police force and progressive social policies in education and welfare. Zot109land's national animal is the flemish lion, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the zot109landdollar.
Zot109land is ranked 1st in the region and 804th in the world for Most Corrupt Governments.
Imperial isa
13-10-2008, 17:05
ooc so mean jack when it cames to RPing
Free United States
13-10-2008, 17:13
ooc: McAuliffe would be proud ^_<
ic:
Commonwealth Expeditionary Forces GHQ, Greal
General Dubrilobov looked on the situation board sternly. His sense of bloodlust had been replaced by the cold, calculating machine of his mind. The young man's mind was powerful when it came to matters of strategy and warfare. He looked up to his aide d' campe, General Tikhov.
"Get me the Ustian Fleet Commander," he said, a tinge of his youthful arrogance escaping him. "I'd very much like to speak with them," he smiled.
Tikhov nodded, glancing away from that unnatural smile as quickly as possible.
Ustian fleet, this is a message from General Dubrilobov, Commander of Commonwealth Forces, Greal. Please respond...
Free United States
13-10-2008, 17:19
ooc: didn't mean it to sound so bad. but, population-wise, you can't support a fleet of 50K carriers. that's a crew of 5,000, give or take, times 50,000. that alone is 1/4 your population.
To: All nations against the invasion of Greal
From: The Peacekeeping Nation of Roef
I said, that i would attack greal. Well, im not. I will help you all to defend greal. I say we all send a lot of soldiers, some tanks and a fleet to defend him. Our nation wishes to hold peace in the world, but i think, that attacking attackers is Peacekeeping. Thank you.
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OOC: Yea, nice name isnt it? The Peacekeeping Nation of Roef... Fun...
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IC:
___
To: All nations attacking Greal
From: The Peacekeeping Nation of Roef
Leave greal alone. I will send an army to defend him. Leave him alone, my first, last and only warning.
___
ORBAT:
75,000 armed soldiers
1000 M1 abrams
120 attack helicopters
10 submarines
20 aircraft carriers
2000 support soldiers
200 thunder-2 artillery
Emperor Nero
13-10-2008, 17:47
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To: Greali State Department
From: Neroian Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Re: Military Operations
Encryption: High
Our government has been observing the Makoki Isles conflict with great interest. It is my pleasure to inform you that our benevolent and wise leader, Emperor Nero, has expressed a desire to join the conflict to ensure the isles remain with their rightful owner.
As I write this, several of our nation's finest carrier battle groups are already en route to Makoki Isles. With your permission, we would also like to begin airlifting men and material to the island immediately, and request access to an airfield to that end.
Chie Lo
Servant of the Emperor
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OOC: Someone got a map of these isles?
Alversia
13-10-2008, 18:06
To: The Imperial Republic of Greal
The Alversian People's Republic has seen the conflict taking place between the armed forces of Greal and her allies against the Leocardian attackers. We would like to pledge a Brigade of our forces to aid you in this war, complete with it's own Air support. Would it be possible to attach this Brigade, temporarily, to one of your own Divisions?
OOD for Alversian 5th Brigade
Infantry:
3rd Battalion of the Meath Rifles - 4,700 men
2nd Southern Rebels Battalion - 4,300 men
1st Battalion of the Armagh Grenadiers - 4,400 men
2nd Battalion of the Armagh Grenadiers - 4800 men
1st Battalion of the Cork Republicans - 4,400 men
2nd Battalion of the Galway Fusiliers - 4,900 men
TOTAL TROOPS: 27,500 men
Armour:
I Mechanised Regiment: 300 AFV, 1,800 Men
110 Arca IV Nakils
90 M1 Abrams
100 M3 Bradley APC's
IV Armoured Regiment: 1,200 AFV, 1,400 Men
650 Arca IV Nakils
350 M1 Abrams
200 M3 Bradleys
22nd Reconnianse Regiment: 120 AFV, 600 Men
40 M3 Bradleys
80 HUMVEE's
TOTAL: 1,650 AFV's, 3,800 men
Air Force:
12th Interceptor Squadron: 26 Eurofighter Typhoons
14th Interceptor Squadron: 29 Eurofighter Typhoons
14th Interceptor Squadron: 27 Eurofighter Typhoons
14th Interceptor Squadron: 30 Eurofighter Typhoons
21st Ground Attack Squadron: 27 F-35's
22nd Ground Attack Squadron: 30 F-35's
32nd Ground Attack Squadron: 28 F-35's
36nd Ground Attack Squadron: 29 F-35's
TOTAL: 112 Fighters, 114 Fighters
To: The Imperial Republic of Greal
From: The Peacekeeping Nation of Roef
If you dont mind, i would like to defend you. These attackers are agressive people. And, if you want, we could make an small alliance in this war, a few army's together. We will defeat our enemy's, and free Greal.
OOC: ok everyone involved I'll say this once . . .on the aircraft carrier thing. an air craft carrier has a crew of approximately 6 000. now along with that 6 000 crew there are about three times that needed in logistics personnel from a home base. so that means for every single Air craft carrier you need 24 000 armed forces personnel. For each sub your gonna need around 500 support and logistics people as well as the 50 man crew. About the absolute max a population can support in troops is 15% (and thats fairly wanky). So for you, Zot you could have a total force of 143 MIL TOPS. that force you sent their? 12 million in carrier troops, 350 mil in submersible forces . . .and your already over your limit. Just as a heads up you could field maybe 20 carriers MAX. People before you post ridiculous forces please look into logistics. I'm a naval nation. my navy fields around 30 carriers and I have a 1.8 Billion population. Also my defense spending? 1/4 of my budget. If your RP'ing more than that and you've got a smaller population than me your being ridiculous. (for military spending use NStracker---->http://nstracker.jfsoftware.com/). Finally an aircraft Carrier (and I'm not gewtting into everything else) costs over 444 million dollars a year to upkeep. that means for you roef? those 20 carriers are costing you 621 billion dollars and your defense budget is only 569 billion. Come on people try to make it a little more realistic please.
Alversia
13-10-2008, 19:41
OOC: Why do you think I keep my military so small? I seem to be the only person on NS who accepts a small military budget and keeps a small military in return.
Lord Sumguy
13-10-2008, 19:55
OOC: Leo, would you mind terribly posting a link to the post where you surrender these isles to Greal? I've been combing through the last invasion thread and cant find any mention of them. In fact, I was under the impression that in your surrender to the Hegemony/Wanderjar we made no demands whatsoever.
OOC: Why do you think I keep my military so small? I seem to be the only person on NS who accepts a small military budget and keeps a small military in return.
OOC: yah that wasn't really so much for your benefit lol
Alversia
13-10-2008, 20:32
OOC: yah that wasn't really so much for your benefit lol
OOC: Ah...:$
:tongue:
ooc: Ah...:$
:tongue:
ooc: :d
Alversia
13-10-2008, 20:41
OOC: Is this an interest thread or the actual attack thread? If so, there seems to be little attacking going on ^^
Mokastana
13-10-2008, 20:44
Ministry of Foreign Affairs, MBSA office
"Sir we have intercepted messages between rivals in the Greal incident. Namely Leocardia and Dawood."
"Good god what is going on over there, let me read this."
Official Message to: leocardia
We are sorry to inform you that the ASD is now at war with Leocardia. Good day to you sirs.
Signed,
Jarek Mace
To DaWoad
From the Worker's Republic of Leocardia
We are sorry you have declared war on our great country without reason. Please be aware when you do realize that you need to establish a surrenderence treaty we will not correspond the terms, because you declared war on us unjustifiably incorrect. Thank you for existing and becoming a nation of assholes.
To: the workers republic of Leocardia.
Message:
"nuts"
The information officer reread the response, looking up and down the page.
"Are you sure this was decrypted right? Are you sure surrenderance is a word?"
"We believe so sir, as for the word, it could be a misuse of grammer."
"Very well, if Dawood believes so strongly their cause then get me more information on this "Makoki Isles" incident to run up the ladder within the hour. I have meetings to set up."
As the information officer left the two men left inside the office began working quickly on the orders.
"I don't get it, what does he mean by "nuts"?"
"He means they can go straight to hell."
Ministry of Foreign Affairs, MBSA office
"Sir we have intercepted messages between rivals in the Greal incident. Namely Leocardia and Dawood."
"Good god what is going on over there, let me read this."
The information officer reread the response, looking up and down the page.
"Are you sure this was decrypted right? Are you sure surrenderance is a word?"
"We believe so sir, as for the word, it could be a misuse of grammer."
"Very well, if Dawood believes so strongly their cause then get me more information on this "Makoki Isles" incident to run up the ladder within the hour. I have meetings to set up."
As the information officer left the two men left inside the office began working quickly on the orders.
"I don't get it, what does he mean by "nuts"?"
"He means they can go straight to hell."
OOC: lol nice someone got it
IC:
Near Greal Territory
the ASDN ships were moving to corner the Leocardian fleet against the Greali shore line. they were still far out of range but the Ennemy fleet was coming up on radar now. The three ASDN Fleets were combined under the command of Admiral Hawk. Heavy CAPs were in place covering the ASDN fleets from the ennemy airforce as well as providing an offensive option.
Blue Cove
MIF1 and the Protectorates own were gearing up along with eighth fleet. in from the Canadian state two further CBGs had arrived. The entire fleet group was being named Scipio in oposition to the task group around Greal known as Caesar.
OOC: orbat
Task Force Caesar
Navy
Six Haven class carriers
Four Indomitable class Super-carriers
Two Oblivion class Dreadnoughts
Five Pike Class Destroyers
Twenty-Four Shield class missile defense and EW ships
Twenty-Four Sword class Heavy Battle cruisers
Fifty Strike class missile attack boats
Twenty-Two Cloak class SSNs
Ten Digger class Engineer Transports
Sixty Beaver class military transports
Seventy Kilaue class Resupply ships
Fifty Liberty Class All purpose Transports
Twenty-Five relief class Hospital Ships
Air Wing
58X Eagle class AWACS
310X F-43A Hawk-1 Strike fighters
310X F-43B Hawk-3 Hypersonic interceptors
140X F-43C Hawk-2 STOVL Close support aircraft
20X Penguin Class Troop Transport Helicopters
20X MH-75 Falcon Class Attack Helicopter
30X B-5B Owl-2 Long Range Stealth Bomber
20X Hercules medium range air-air refueling planes
100X MH-72 Osprey ASW Helicopter
Land Forces
450 T-72C Shark Class Amphibious MBTs
700 T-75A Wolf Class Armored Attack Vehicles
200 (covert weapon system no id-tag found) ?????
11 10 Marine Spec ops teams and material
96 Light Combat Squads
24 Heavy Combat Squads
12 Indirect Fire Teams
1 000-Engineers armed with Small Arms
150- Armored Bulldozers
50-modified Shark Class MBTs
Official Response
Dead? We laugh at your assumptions.
When your nation reaches a demise,
do not cry back for a surrenderence
treaty.
ooc: I respect you Leocardia, just not at this moment at this time. ;)
Official Communique
It seems to everyone here that these so called "allies" of yours have yet to call in to support you, yet the other nations here are willing to defend the country of Greal. We once again advise Leocardia to rethink the situation and consider a diplomatic solution rather than a military solution to this problem. Has it ever crossed the government of Leocardia if you just use diplomacy to solve this matter? There would be more pressure on Greal to give back jurisdiction to the Makoki Isles back to Leocardia. Instead the pressure is unfortunately on Leocardia to withdraw from its current stance of agression to take the islands by force.
We are more than prepared should this go wrong and we will not "cry back for a surrendurence treaty".
OOC: Leo, would you mind terribly posting a link to the post where you surrender these isles to Greal? I've been combing through the last invasion thread and cant find any mention of them. In fact, I was under the impression that in your surrender to the Hegemony/Wanderjar we made no demands whatsoever.
ooc: Come to think of it....I don't remember anything of the sort when the whole thing ended.
Stoklomolvi
13-10-2008, 22:51
[OOC: Zoingo, please read my post in reference to my defensive declaration of war. I was allied to Greal, and I am still allied to you, I would presume. Greal declared war on me, so would it not be common sense for you to declare war on Greal for our defensive pact signed with the Beatus?]
[OOC: Zoingo, please read my post in reference to my defensive declaration of war. I was allied to Greal, and I am still allied to you, I would presume. Greal declared war on me, so would it not be common sense for you to declare war on Greal for our defensive pact signed with the Beatus?]
ooc: the problem is that I am in the Hegemony, in which Greal is my ally along with a few other people, which is why my position, if you read my post, is very awkward, and I have little to do on both matters. But are you planning to invade Greal? That is what I have to know.
Stoklomolvi
13-10-2008, 23:05
[OOC: I'm going to kill off whatever remains of him in my country, seeing as to how he declared war when he was still in Stoklomolvi, and after that I'll just sort of sit there. I am sad that you chose to rip apart our own MDP and declare war as well.]
OOC: Leo, would you mind terribly posting a link to the post where you surrender these isles to Greal? I've been combing through the last invasion thread and cant find any mention of them. In fact, I was under the impression that in your surrender to the Hegemony/Wanderjar we made no demands whatsoever.
OOC: Leo, read this.
Ustio North
13-10-2008, 23:39
"Sir, General Dubrilobov, Commander of Commonwealth Forces wants to speak to you" an aide told Captain Mitchell. He picked up the radio
"This is Captain Mitchell, Commander Of Ustian Forces. Go ahead General" he said
OOC: Also, another Carrier Battlegroup has just been freed up from it's last assignment, and will arrive soon.
Free United States
13-10-2008, 23:55
"Captain, it's a pleasure," General Dubrilobov's smile widened. "I have already ordered our ground artillery to support our fleets," he informed the Captain, "And I would like to keep an open communications line with you and Admiral Tiblierovna. It also appears more forces will be joining us soon. Though we are of disparate ranks, I hope we can work with candor, seeing as I have no operational authority over anyone besides my own forces."
ps: btw, this is Gen. Dubrilobov: http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/gehwa/Cosplay/SEEDDestiny-Cosplay_AthrunZala2.jpg
if you want an explanation, I can give it, but, yeah...
Ustio North
14-10-2008, 00:03
"Captain, it's a pleasure," General Dubrilobov's smile widened. "I have already ordered our ground artillery to support our fleets," he informed the Captain, "And I would like to keep an open communications line with you and Admiral Tiblierovna. It also appears more forces will be joining us soon. Though we are of disparate ranks, I hope we can work with candor, seeing as I have no operational authority over anyone besides my own forces."
ps: btw, this is Gen. Dubrilobov: http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/gehwa/Cosplay/SEEDDestiny-Cosplay_AthrunZala2.jpg
if you want an explanation, I can give it, but, yeah...
"I understand" replied Mitchell "As I see it General, rank and candour are all very well, but defending Greal is our main priority - as i'm sure yours is too. But, as you are a General and I am merely a Captain, my naval forces are at your disposal. We have a detachment of around 1,000 Royal Marines (OOC:Essentially Army Troops, But For The Navy) who are prepared to land on the Greal shorelines and bolster the troops already stationed there, if needs be"
OOC: No need to explain FUS. Sorry if that seemed a bit short, but that's Mitchell's style, being a grizzled veteran of the Ryou-Greston war.
Leocardia
14-10-2008, 01:21
OOC: Leocardia, I don't remember any treaty being signed when I last fought you. The Allied forces drove your guys out of my nation, and there was no mention of the Makoki Isles.
OOC: The Hegemony and Wanderjar fought to sought for the Makoki Isles. Leocardia lost custody to Greali and Hegemonic forces.
Leocardia
14-10-2008, 01:29
"Automated systems responding," the TAO replied.
With Jormungandr active, all incoming attacks were tallied into the computer networks, with fire orders sent to the appropriate ships and their CIWS systems. Needle-mine chaff systems were deployed, leaving a haze of protective radar-jamming metal in the sky above. From the larger cruisers and destroyers on the outer rim, SeaRAM missiles fired to intercept the incoming missiles.
The cruisers, destroyers and battleships fired with their naval guns, the Concordia's with their 18 in. transuranic rounds, down to the destroyers 75mm naval cannons.
There were multiple thunderclaps as the Shrikes went back into supersonic, dropping decoy cruise missiles and 'farewell' GBU's on their targets.
From their holding pattern, the first wave of 100 fighters, the Carrier Air Wing of the Crimean Lion, fired air-to-surface Exocet missiles towards the enemy fleet.
From the Miroka(?) Isles, the Commonwealth's 9th Artillery Battalion fired Patriot and Tomahawk missiles towards the enemy fleet.
OOC: So the missiles I launched at you are all destroyed? Even the Khans?
Leocardia
14-10-2008, 01:34
OOC: Leo, would you mind terribly posting a link to the post where you surrender these isles to Greal? I've been combing through the last invasion thread and cant find any mention of them. In fact, I was under the impression that in your surrender to the Hegemony/Wanderjar we made no demands whatsoever.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=552776
Leistung
14-10-2008, 01:41
OOC: So wait, didn't you actually suggest that those islands be ceded to the Heg?
Leocardia
14-10-2008, 01:46
Leocardian forces witnessed the involvement of the DaWoad navy. At Leocardia's part of the Makoki Isles, the 'Yuting' Shipyard and Navy Base was placed on full alert for any hostile action. Railguns were placed all over the shores, and land-based Khans were hidden in the mountainous beaches. The Makoki Militia was ready for any attack.
Hostile forces, leave the Makoki region or your ships will be sunk.
The Northern Baltic
14-10-2008, 01:46
The Semi-Autonomous Republic of the Makoki Islands, Northern Baltic side
Several men stood around a dimly lit bunker. A mix of cigar smoke and a strong smell of rum filled the air.
"What worries me is the intense naval fighting over here... and here.", said one man.
"Of course. If the fighting continues, it could wreck havoc on our fishing and shipping industries. Surly the mainland would not be happy to hear that."
"But we must also take into account what actions we make. Wouldn't calling up the reserves make the others a little... how shall we say... jumpy?"
"Not at all. It just shows that we're ready. After all, not a lot infantry are going to do without ships... our navy is already mobilized and we'll wait to mobilize our Reserve Fleet."
"Then it is settled. Call out a general mobilization for all ground and air assets. Then send a message to those involved. Warn them that we will defend our sovereignty, if we need to."
"Yes sir."
"One more thing..."
"Sir?"
"Man the 800mm guns."
Minutes later, the eight 800mm railguns that comprised the primary naval defense of the island were put on full alert, in case they were needed.
Leocardia
14-10-2008, 01:48
OOC: So wait, didn't you actually suggest that those islands be ceded to the Heg?
OOC: While pressured by Hegemony's six-nation alliance, yes, but that was because I was under 3 different thread-conflicts at the same time.
The Phoenix Milita
14-10-2008, 02:07
OOC: I assure you, at least one of the alliances is very much alive! Thing is, both Greal and Leocardia are members !
Priority one diplomatic message.
To:Leocardia
From: Field Marshall Maximus Seville II, leader of The Phoenix Milita and Founder of the BSA
Encryption: level one quantum encryption
This is an official warning from the BSA council.
If you do invade Greal, the BSA will be activated and Leocardia will be stripped of its Mug and kicked out of the alliance. The BSA will then hold an emergency session to determine the next step, which may include military actions against you. I suggest you reconsider this course of action at once! I can not guarantee our previous statements regarding neutrality if you continue to escalate this! My advice: cut your losses and turn back now, before its too late.
Leocardia
14-10-2008, 02:19
OOC: I assure you, at least one of the alliances is very much alive! Thing is, both Greal and Leocardia are members !
Priority one diplomatic message.
To:Leocardia
From: Field Marshall Maximus Seville II, leader of The Phoenix Milita and Founder of the BSA
Encryption: level one quantum encryption
This is an official warning from the BSA council.
If you do invade Greal, the BSA will be activated and Leocardia will be stripped of its Mug and kicked out of the alliance. The BSA will then hold an emergency session to determine the next step, which may include military actions against you. I suggest you reconsider this course of action at once! I can not guarantee our previous statements regarding neutrality if you continue to escalate this! My advice: cut your losses and turn back now, before its too late.
Maximum Encryption Message to The Phoenix Militia
We have not invaded Greal, and has not shown intentions through our military movements, but were attacked and war was declared upon us by simply moving our naval forces to the Makoki Isles' side of Leocardia's possession. We have not attacked Greal in any way, but we have come under fire for just moving forces to reinforce our share of the Isles. We do not understand how you may have threaten us with the message of stripping our membership and demands the Phoenix Militia to re-investigate the claims and proper justice to be served.
[OOC: I'm going to kill off whatever remains of him in my country, seeing as to how he declared war when he was still in Stoklomolvi, and after that I'll just sort of sit there. I am sad that you chose to rip apart our own MDP and declare war as well.]
ooc: Hold on, that is not what I ment. I wanted to know how or what you were going to do to attack Greal. If you are not going to be anywhere near the country of Greal, but inside your own country, then my legal jurisdiciton to help Greal in Stocklomolvi doesn't apply. So I have no quarrel with you then. *Picks up shards of MDP and puts it back together with tape* :p
Stoklomolvi
14-10-2008, 03:13
[OOC: Well, Greal was originally in the same region as I am, but for IC purposes flew away and disappeared. Let us be friends again! :D .]
Kika Mana, Leocardia's Capitol City
A telegram was sent out to Greal for options to control this situation.
Dear Grealites,
I am Justin Morales, new President of Leocardia. And what I have pledged for my nation is to retrieve the Makoki Isles we lost to your nation. We request the fact that the Makoki Isles be handed over back to Leocardia, and we will cease all hostilities with your nation, as well as your allies' hostilities. All we ask is the Isles, and our diplomacy can be resetted. Please think about this for the sake of the useless killings and deaths of our own people.
OOC: Then there's no point of invading me. I don't own the isles. Do you have a map of these isles?
Intracircumcordei
14-10-2008, 05:35
ICS:
Leocardia will fulfill your requests, but we will also deliver a $1.5T payment package to your nation having involve to side with Leocardia in this invasion.
ICS: We will pledge to not move forces against you under the current arrangement - and we will discus in very high level talks the specifics beyond this.
Logothe of the Drome, ICCD
Free United States
14-10-2008, 06:18
Maximum Encryption Message to The Phoenix Militia
We have not invaded Greal, and has not shown intentions through our military movements, but were attacked and war was declared upon us by simply moving our naval forces to the Makoki Isles' side of Leocardia's possession. We have not attacked Greal in any way, but we have come under fire for just moving forces to reinforce our share of the Isles. We do not understand how you may have threaten us with the message of stripping our membership and demands the Phoenix Militia to re-investigate the claims and proper justice to be served.
ooc: maybe cuz the thread is called "New Greali Invasion" we assumed any move your forces made was to invade greal. also, first the isles were completely in greal possession (or so i assumed), now some of them aren't...which is it?
Ustio North
14-10-2008, 12:47
ooc: maybe cuz the thread is called "New Greali Invasion" we assumed any move your forces made was to invade greal. also, first the isles were completely in greal possession (or so i assumed), now some of them aren't...which is it?
OOC: *Confused*
To: Greal
From: The PeaceKeeping Nation of Roef
Our navy is almost in your waters. If you accept us to land, we will use our soldiers, tanks, ships and planes to help you. I want you to be safe and free, this is what i give you.
OOC: 15 dead alliances. I'd actually recommend everybody ignore him. He's a obvious troll.
He was once known as MagicChina. :wom:
'Move! Full speed forward!' yelled a captain of the fleet.
As he said that, the ships began to go faster. It would only take about an hour to reach Greal. If thay landed, there plan was to set up defence, build a Roef-ian military base, and than to power up all tanks, to set up artillery, and wait.
Leocardian forces witnessed the involvement of the DaWoad navy. At Leocardia's part of the Makoki Isles, the 'Yuting' Shipyard and Navy Base was placed on full alert for any hostile action. Railguns were placed all over the shores, and land-based Khans were hidden in the mountainous beaches. The Makoki Militia was ready for any attack.
Hostile forces, leave the Makoki region or your ships will be sunk.
OOC: Before I launch an all out invasion . . . Whats happening . .. I thought I knew but now? Leo would you mind explaining OOC'ly exactly whats going on?
OOC: For as far as i know, most people are defending Greal, a few massages where sent to tell everybody to leave or to die, and a few nations already landed troops on Greal, mine are almost there, just saying...
Ustio North
14-10-2008, 16:54
OOC: For as far as i know, most people are defending Greal, a few massages where sent to tell everybody to leave or to die, and a few nations already landed troops on Greal, mine are almost there, just saying...
OOC: I think DaWoad was probably asking what Leocardia is actually doing, seeing as Greal has announced that he doesn't own the islands Leo wants back.
OOC: Ahh, i see, sorry... So now we are fighting for a few islands? So, if i wanted to, i could invade these islands?
OOC: I think DaWoad was probably asking what Leocardia is actually doing, seeing as Greal has announced that he doesn't own the islands Leo wants back.
OOC: ya exactly . . .I mean am I invading someones Island for no reason at all????? I'm more than willing to defend Greal but thats just dumb . ..
OOC: So, you are invading the islands? Funny, maybe we could work together, i like colony's and islands.
Ustio North
14-10-2008, 17:02
OOC: Ahh, i see, sorry... So now we are fighting for a few islands? So, if i wanted to, i could invade these islands?
OOC: I don't know - but that would put you at odds with Leocardia, and i'm not going to jump in and save anyone who decides to keep this conflict going longer than it needs to.
OOC: No, ofcourse, i understand. But, if we are fighting anyway, we could better do it together. If we do it together, we could both get an island, and both ask a lot of money for it. If i invade one, i would name it something like Great Jankolia, and i would sell it.
New Greston
14-10-2008, 17:04
OOC: Oh deary me, all these misinformed people. What happened in the first war was that Leo invaded and attempted to take control of a large region of Greal. The Hegemony, Wanderjar, and myself retaliated and with a combined effort of bombarding his troops and my efforts in removing his naval force he moved back a few steps.
But, our trigger happy friend Cazelia started launching missiles at the Leocardian capital while in the middle of peace talks. Leo reacted and did the same back to Cazelia fucking up Caz's capital.
Then Caz's pissed off president launched an attack against the Makoki Islands, this was mainly for revenge but also because Caz liked to throw his weight around. In the end a new set of peace conferences were made and Leo ceded off the rights to the islands to Hegemony. Since it was Greal who the war evolved around the first time, Leo assumed Greal owned the islands when truly, Caz or LS do.
OOC: ok now that makes sense. When did leo land on the islands???
Ustio North
14-10-2008, 17:07
OOC: Oh deary me, all these misinformed people. What happened in the first war was that Leo invaded and attempted to take control of a large region of Greal. The Hegemony, Wanderjar, and myself retaliated and with a combined effort of bombarding his troops and my efforts in removing his naval force he moved back a few steps.
But, our trigger happy friend Cazelia started launching missiles at the Leocardian capital while in the middle of peace talks. Leo reacted and did the same back to Cazelia fucking up Caz's capital.
Then Caz's pissed off president launched an attack against the Makoki Islands, this was mainly for revenge but also because Caz liked to throw his weight around. In the end a new set of peace conferences were made and Leo ceded off the rights to the islands to Hegemony. Since it was Greal who the war evolved around the first time, Leo assumed Greal owned the islands when truly, Caz or LS do.
OOC: Yes, which is where my confusion came in - why is Leo invading Greal, if he doesn't own the islands?
Obviously, we should probably wait untill Leo posts again before we make any more aggresive moves.
OOC So its not known who owns them? Its like that book, the davinci code or something... I dont know the name... Anyway, only they know who owns these islands? So he could be invading islands from, i am just saying something, the best NS player in the world? Fun!
EDIT: For the post above me: I agree. I think, that we should atleast wait for a new post of him, before we attack any of his soldiers/civilians/planes/ships... Thats all for now :)
Ustio North
14-10-2008, 17:10
OOC So its not known who owns them? Its like that book, the davinci code or something... I dont know the name... Anyway, only they know who owns these islands? So he could be invading islands from, i am just saying something, the best NS player in the world? Fun!
OOC: What has the Da Vinci Code got to do with this? Greston or LS (?) owns the islands.
Imperial isa
14-10-2008, 17:10
OOC: Oh deary me, all these misinformed people. What happened in the first war was that Leo invaded and attempted to take control of a large region of Greal. The Hegemony, Wanderjar, and myself retaliated and with a combined effort of bombarding his troops and my efforts in removing his naval force he moved back a few steps.
But, our trigger happy friend Cazelia started launching missiles at the Leocardian capital while in the middle of peace talks. Leo reacted and did the same back to Cazelia fucking up Caz's capital.
Then Caz's pissed off president launched an attack against the Makoki Islands, this was mainly for revenge but also because Caz liked to throw his weight around. In the end a new set of peace conferences were made and Leo ceded off the rights to the islands to Hegemony. Since it was Greal who the war evolved around the first time, Leo assumed Greal owned the islands when truly, Caz or LS do.
ooc was there not a Nuking part in that war or was that another trigger happy Cazelia moment
OOC: What has the Da Vinci Code got to do with this? Greston or LS (?) owns the islands.
OOC: Thanks. I know only they could own the islands, but i say we let this thread die or something. These islands arent Greals, so i think Greal dont really need protection. If they want to fight for these islands, than its a diffrent story... Who knows? This is a funny thread you know...
About that da vinci code, there are many "mysteries" in it, and they never really found out did they?
Ustio North
14-10-2008, 17:26
About that da vinci code, there are many "mysteries" in it, and they never really found out did they?
OOC: Okay, but compare:
The Da Vinci Code is a controversial mystery/detective novel by US author Dan Brown, published in 2003 by Doubleday. It follows symbologist Robert Langdon as he investigates a murder in the Louvre, and discovers a battle between the Priory of Sion and Opus Dei over the possibility of Jesus having been married to and fathering a child with Mary Magdalene.
And This:
OOC: Oh deary me, all these misinformed people. What happened in the first war was that Leo invaded and attempted to take control of a large region of Greal. The Hegemony, Wanderjar, and myself retaliated and with a combined effort of bombarding his troops and my efforts in removing his naval force he moved back a few steps.
But, our trigger happy friend Cazelia started launching missiles at the Leocardian capital while in the middle of peace talks. Leo reacted and did the same back to Cazelia fucking up Caz's capital.
Then Caz's pissed off president launched an attack against the Makoki Islands, this was mainly for revenge but also because Caz liked to throw his weight around. In the end a new set of peace conferences were made and Leo ceded off the rights to the islands to Hegemony. Since it was Greal who the war evolved around the first time, Leo assumed Greal owned the islands when truly, Caz or LS do.
I understand what you're saying, but you probably could have found a better metaphor :D
New Greston
14-10-2008, 17:27
ooc was there not a Nuking part in that war or was that another trigger happy Cazelia moment
That was the missile part.
And towards, Unstio and Roef and all that:
Leo just ceded off the land to the Hegemony as a whole so it is unsure who truly owns it but the best bet would be Cazelia whose trigger happiness started the invasion of the Makoki Islands. Leo simply wants his old land back.
Ustio North
14-10-2008, 17:31
That was the missile part.
And towards, Unstio and Roef and all that:
Leo just ceded off the land to the Hegemony as a whole so it is unsure who truly owns it but the best bet would be Cazelia whose trigger happiness started the invasion of the Makoki Islands. Leo simply wants his old land back.
OOC: But Greal doesn't own it? So he's declared war on Greal, rather than Hege, or Cazelia, who actually own the islands?
Major cock-up.
New Greston
14-10-2008, 17:34
OOC: He assumed Greal owned it because it was Greal who proposed the peace conferences. This is simply a really big misunderstanding on everyone's part.
Ustio North
14-10-2008, 17:37
OOC: He assumed Greal owned it because it was Greal who proposed the peace conferences. This is simply a really big misunderstanding on everyone's part.
OOC: You can say that again. Hang on, what's your role in all this?
Alversia
14-10-2008, 17:41
OOC: This is a little confusing. Sorry scratch that, VERY confusing ^^
New Greston
14-10-2008, 18:07
OOC: My role? Interpretor I guess...
By law I should help Greal because I am in the same alliance as him but, I'd rather not so I am just going to clarify for everyone in OOC.
Ustio North
14-10-2008, 18:11
OOC: My role? Interpretor I guess...
By law I should help Greal because I am in the same alliance as him but, I'd rather not so I am just going to clarify for everyone in OOC.
OOC: Heh, strange - I don't have any alliegence to Greal, but since my nation is a bit anti-invading-countries-for-no-apparent-reasons-or-landgrabbing, I decided it was kinda my duty to help Greal.
Lord Sumguy
14-10-2008, 19:55
That was the missile part.
And towards, Unstio and Roef and all that:
Leo just ceded off the land to the Hegemony as a whole so it is unsure who truly owns it but the best bet would be Cazelia whose trigger happiness started the invasion of the Makoki Islands. Leo simply wants his old land back.
OOC: if anyone owned these isles, it would be the Hegemon and Hegemony International Defense Force, but the HIDF has never moved to enforce this claim. The portion of the Makoki Islands that was ceded is technically Hegemony territory, but was not recognized as such by LS (the character) and the HIDF, so while Cazelia may have accepted the cession, the Hegemony did not and it's still really in Leo's hands unless his govt. pulled out in which case it is probably self governing (though still technically a Hegemony protectorate i guess) at the moment.
Free United States
14-10-2008, 20:22
ooc: well, i had forces in Greal already since the last war...so my forces were simply defending what Leocardia himself stated were GReali claims.
Leistung
14-10-2008, 20:43
OOC: Huh, I was about to declare war on behalf of ODECON too...anti-climactic to say the least...
Mokastana
14-10-2008, 21:29
OOC:
how about this, why don't we just say someone moved in to the islands to occupy them, or make them a protectorate, something to get the story moving along....like this:
*pulls out mark 4 GodMode device*
Greal forces were on the islands after the incidents took place, but since Greal never assumed control, the island formed its own government, they made a deal with the Hegemony for its protection, and therefore has no military of its own, maybe some crazy militias.
Leo wants the islands back....and they say no, WAR OCCURS!!!!
and action!
Lord Sumguy
14-10-2008, 22:47
OOC:
how about this, why don't we just say someone moved in to the islands to occupy them, or make them a protectorate, something to get the story moving along....like this:
*pulls out mark 4 GodMode device*
Greal forces were on the islands after the incidents took place, but since Greal never assumed control, the island formed its own government, they made a deal with the Hegemony for its protection, and therefore has no military of its own, maybe some crazy militias.
Leo wants the islands back....and they say no, WAR OCCURS!!!!
and action!
OOC: thing is, i dont really want a war with Leo right now, it would be inconvenient.
OOC: NO MORE OOC DISCUSSION. I'm waiting for Leocardia to post. This was all a stupid misunderstanding.
Official Communique
After light of this recent information, we conclude that this was a compleate misunderstanding on both sides that seems to leave even the bystanders scratching their heads. It seems that a certain important piece of information was left out of this thread that neither side was clear on (thank you Greston). If it is truly the Hegemony, not Greal that administers the islands, we once again offer to have both sides sit down and discuss delivering the Makoki Islands back to Leocardia.
Lord Sumguy
14-10-2008, 23:32
Official Communique
After light of this recent information, we conclude that this was a compleate misunderstanding on both sides that seems to leave even the bystanders scratching their heads. It seems that a certain important piece of information was left out of this thread that neither side was clear on (thank you Greston). If it is truly the Hegemony, not Greal that administers the islands, we once again offer to have both sides sit down and discuss delivering the Makoki Islands back to Leocardia.
OOC: if Leo was incorrect, then i think the appropriate thing to do would be to retcon ths thread and perhaps start a new one.
OOC: if Leo was incorrect, then i think the appropriate thing to do would be to retcon ths thread and perhaps start a new one.
ooc: Agreed...perhaps a more diplomatic one instead? Primarily because of my "small problem" (tg you about it) I might have to deal with.
Leocardia
15-10-2008, 00:37
OOC: if anyone owned these isles, it would be the Hegemon and Hegemony International Defense Force, but the HIDF has never moved to enforce this claim. The portion of the Makoki Islands that was ceded is technically Hegemony territory, but was not recognized as such by LS (the character) and the HIDF, so while Cazelia may have accepted the cession, the Hegemony did not and it's still really in Leo's hands unless his govt. pulled out in which case it is probably self governing (though still technically a Hegemony protectorate i guess) at the moment.
OOC: Not entirely, just the island with the most land mass, and while the Hegemony invaded my Isles, I gave a huge portion of the island to the USSNB, while I kept the smaller island.
Leocardia
15-10-2008, 00:38
ooc: Agreed...perhaps a more diplomatic one instead? Primarily because of my "small problem" (tg you about it) I might have to deal with.
OOC: I can remake this thread and turn it into a negociation thread to get it back...
Lord Sumguy
15-10-2008, 02:24
OOC: I can remake this thread and turn it into a negociation thread to get it back...
OOC: let's try that.
OOC: I can remake this thread and turn it into a negociation thread to get it back...
ooc: That would seem like a wise choice, am I allowed to moderate such discussions?
Lord Sumguy
15-10-2008, 02:26
ooc: That would seem like a wise choice, am I allowed to moderate such discussions?
OOC: why would we need moderation?
ooc: you know....to make shure that nothing gets out of hand. Im worried that with all of the misunderstanding and confusion that is going on someone will not understand why the Hegemony is giving back a province to Leocardia. Plus, it will give the talks structure, instead of people just yelling at each other (which seems to cause an increasingly number of peace talks ect. to fail or get nowhere). So that one side presents its suggestions as to how the treaty will work out, and then the other side can respond, and so on and so forth. And also, I have never moderated anything what-so-ever, and I wanted to give it a shot. :)
OOC: I can remake this thread and turn it into a negociation thread to get it back...
OOC: Go ahead.
OOC: awwwww I had an ivasion prepd and everything . . .:(
Mokastana
15-10-2008, 16:06
OOC: awwwww I had an ivasion prepd and everything . . .:(
OOC:
There there.....
(see if anyone gets that reference)
Free United States
15-10-2008, 16:12
ooc: since i'm not a member of the Hegemony, but am an ally of Greal, may I sit in on the negotiations? I also need to talk to greal on pulling my forces out...
Ustio North
15-10-2008, 18:05
ooc: since i'm not a member of the Hegemony, but am an ally of Greal, may I sit in on the negotiations? I also need to talk to greal on pulling my forces out...
OOC: Yeah, me too. Greal, if you have no objections i'll return the battlegroup to Ustio. If things still get out of hand again, feel free to call on my support.
Free United States
15-10-2008, 18:18
ooc: well, my troops had been there since the last war, and i simply haven't withdrawn them, ehehe.
Leocardia
16-10-2008, 00:05
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=569181
New thread.