NationStates Jolt Archive


Buying Uranium or plutonium for nuclear weapons

Kazablancastan
04-10-2008, 22:23
From the nation of Kazablancastan:
To: any nations with a underground or mainstream uranium trading buisness

I am willing to pay 15,000,000 credits to anyone who may give me 25 pounds of weapons grade uranium. Of course we are new to this but I am willing to pay for a lot more. A lot more...
Gun Manufacturers
04-10-2008, 22:25
OOC: I doubt you'll get many offers, as a new nation (and if you do, other nations might not take kindly to you having nukes, and will attempt to force their will on you). However, you might want to check out this thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=567322
The Great Lord Tiger
04-10-2008, 22:56
$15 million? Your defense budget is a paltry $1 billion! Unless you have no soldiers or anything - do you know how much a nuclear weapons program costs?

http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=Kazablancastan

Keep addressing issues for a few weeks or so. If you play your cards right, your primary budget will be the military.
Ralkovia
04-10-2008, 22:57
(Well ralkovia will always help, remember "first to supply, last one to get hit")

To: Kazablancastan
From: Encrypted
High Level Encrytion Code Cipher level 9
We are willing to take your offer
Forensatha
04-10-2008, 23:04
OOC: Unless they realize it would be cheaper to nuke your nation and then take it for themselves.
The Great Lord Tiger
04-10-2008, 23:07
[OOC] Great idea, Forensatha!

Please tell me you're a FT nation, Kazablancastan. We could obliterate you from the heavens...

JK! Or are we? O_o
Ralkovia
04-10-2008, 23:08
(Touche but they would have to contend with my nukes. And when I say nuclear it doesn't scare me,

your a UN pussy
your a rightwing nutjob
this land will surely vote for me )
Stoklomolvi
04-10-2008, 23:12
[OOC: First and last post for me.

Kazablancastan, go here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542151). You really need to know about nuclear programmes before starting one.

Ralkovia, seriously just GTFO. You constantly act like some flamboyant superpower when you are not. You're a shrimp. You're a small speck on the big NS balloon. You're nothing. You may be larger than I am, but you're still nothing. I am nothing. So just stop throwing your weight around lest you want to become the new Roma V.]
Ralkovia
04-10-2008, 23:17
( Hey you can be a negative nelly or a depressed emo with a low self esteem but you can speak for yourself, I on the other hand throw my weight however insignificant it is around. Now why don't you STFU.)
Forensatha
04-10-2008, 23:18
OOC: In all seriousness, I could see this as being more likely at 100 million for a population. At anything less than that? Sorry, but you just can't have the money and manpower to support it.
Ralkovia
04-10-2008, 23:20
(You could get a big brother nation

but forensatha your argument goes back to the controversy all across NS)
Third Spanish States
04-10-2008, 23:22
OOC: Israel has nukes.
Forensatha
04-10-2008, 23:23
OOC: My argument is based on a more realistic viewpoint. Just because I play a nation that accidentally invented a cannon that fires cows doesn't mean I'm not looking for realism in some items.

And, in any case, the cow cannon is just an overlarge schoolyard railgun.
Ralkovia
04-10-2008, 23:30
(Yep alcohol does that)
Brittanican Adenia
04-10-2008, 23:32
OOC: Israel has nukes.

And the UK, and half the population doesn't seem to work ;)
Zinaire
04-10-2008, 23:34
OOC: Israel has nukes.

OOC: Yeah...because the United States gave them to them.
Ralkovia
05-10-2008, 00:07
OOC: So what stops me from giving little nations nukes? Its definitely not morals or decency

And ralkovia is currently under the administration of like 3 different nations so I'm only operating as an exiled government kind of state.
Santheres
05-10-2008, 00:33
OOC: So what stops me from giving little nations nukes? Its definitely not morals or decency

And ralkovia is currently under the administration of like 3 different nations so I'm only operating as an exiled government kind of state.

Then I'm left to wonder where you're getting your resources from and how you really even exist as an actual nation. You're definitely not RPing a pure government-in-exile, since you seem to have tons of resources still.
Ralkovia
05-10-2008, 00:33
( Hey they got my mainland, not my colonies)
Kazablancastan
05-10-2008, 02:01
You can buy a suitcase nuke from russia for a little more than 10,000 dollars. Besides, I am not trying to fund a nuclear weapons stockpile to blow up the world or wipe out the human race 7 times over. I just want reasonably expensive, simple to maintain intercontinental ballistic missile that can fire multiple warheads. I will use it for defence and not to target civilions. I just want to wipe out an invasion fleet. Also, could I buy several copies of all the South Park episodes. I want to corrupt my citizens.
The Great Lord Tiger
05-10-2008, 02:15
Yes, but a multi-warhead ICBM is much, much bigger. Here, assuming you have a single unit (which would be pointless -- why have only a single ICBM that could malfunction?):

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/icbm/lgm-118.htm

Unit Cost: $70 million

That's $70,000,000.

And plus, could we see your sources on the cost of a 'suitcase nuke'? Even assuming they're real. I just want to see the fictional story or whatever led you to the delusion that a small nuclear device costs a mere $10,000.
Kazablancastan
05-10-2008, 02:36
It was something on the history channel. I do not know exactly if 10,000 was the exact amount but it was pretty cheap. A suitcase nuke was developed by russia. It was a simple peice of uranium placed in a suitcase with explosives strapped around it. The origional explosion would kill only about 30 people but the radioactive fallout could kill thousands. Okay, I will buy a flying fortress and a bomb the equivelent of Fat Man.
The Great Lord Tiger
05-10-2008, 02:43
Sigh... if you're gonna do period, then the Manhattan Project cost $2 billion. With inflation, that's $24 billion in 2008 dollars.

Seriously, dude... you don't need nukes for RPing, especially not here. In case you didn't know, saying "MAI ROFLNUKE GOEZ BOOM BOOM BOOM LOLOLOL" is a great way to get yourself flamed.

Please, read the stickies on this forum. And I mean READ. Don't glance at them, don't skimp over anything that bores you, just read it all.
Forensatha
05-10-2008, 02:46
Great Lord Tiger, can my nation ICly borrow one of your ships capable of planetary bombardment? I only need to fire the cannons two or three times...
The PeoplesFreedom
05-10-2008, 02:46
OOC: Yeah...because the United States gave them to them.

OOC: Actually it was France ;)
Kazablancastan
05-10-2008, 02:48
I want to buy one ounce of plutonium, put it in a glass bile, and bury it 5 miles from my capital in a descrete location for several thousand dollars.