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1790 AD. OOC/Signup

Chernobl
02-10-2008, 22:01
This is going to be a realistic RP Set in the real 1790s world using our NS nations. You must make a factbook and fill out the form below to join. Any real world are is open to be claimed. Please fill out the form below:

Nation name:
Government Type:
Leader:
Location ( I'll make a map as people join):
Religion:
Ideals:
Population:
Flag (optional):

Ex;
Nation name: The Grand Dutchy of Chernobl
Government Type: Monarchy
Leader: King Jacob the III
Location ( I'll make a map as people join): Here: http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq129/chernobl/europe_map3-1-1.gif also several African and asian colonies.
Religion: Eastern Orthodox, Catholic and Protestant
Ideals: Militaristic, Imperialist, Conservative, Patriotic
Population (max 100 mil must be able to support): 45 million
Flag (optional): http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq129/chernobl/chernobl__18.gif
Rechburg
02-10-2008, 22:10
Nation name: The Grand Dutchy Rechburg
Government Type: Ducal Monarchy
Leader: Duke Leopold
Location
Religion: Catholic and Protestant
Ideals: Militaristic, Imperialist, Conservative, Patriotic
Population (max 900 mil must be able to support): 35 million
Flag (optional):
Chernobl
02-10-2008, 22:11
dude, location? Just tell me.
Rechburg
02-10-2008, 22:14
Might I suggest that since you want it reasonably realistic you lower the population limits, as most nations in 1790 only had several million people, better would be if you appointed the population numbers as people registered.
Chernobl
02-10-2008, 22:15
How about you give me you location before you start tellin me what to do?
Rechburg
02-10-2008, 22:18
The map is so small I can hardly see things on it, but I will take Prussia, if that is what the black region is.

Hey Im not telling you what to do, was merely a suggestion.
Chernobl
02-10-2008, 22:23
Dude that map is of my nation, not the world. I already have Prussia.
Rithian
02-10-2008, 22:25
What is required in the factbook?
Chernobl
02-10-2008, 22:28
Just your basic info, culture history government history, military. Doesn't need to be huge, i just need the basics.
Rechburg
02-10-2008, 22:33
ok will get one done later tonight.
Rithian
02-10-2008, 22:34
Just your basic info, culture history government history, military. Doesn't need to be huge, i just need the basics.

You want it on a separate thread or here?
Chernobl
02-10-2008, 22:37
Im gonna down size a bit. Here is my new map. My new pop is 45 mil.
http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq129/chernobl/europe_map3-1-1.gif
My country is purple
Rithian
02-10-2008, 22:40
since this is in the 1700's, we're allowed North American land too, right?
Chernobl
02-10-2008, 22:41
Of course.
Rithian
02-10-2008, 22:44
Nation name: The New Empire of Nortia
Government Type: Constitutional Republic
Leader: President George Imaham
Location ( I'll make a map as people join): Canada and New England
Religion: Religious Freedom
Ideals: Perfect civil rights for all, and protecting those rights under a nation.
Population: 3/4ths of what I can support
Flag (optional): http://utopia.duth.gr/~tkontoni/gr/%D6%D9%D4%CF%C3%D1%C1%D6%C9%C1/wallpaper/greek-flag.gif
Rechburg
02-10-2008, 22:47
Then I will take the light blue nation - Germany, failing that you just pick a spot and drop me in it.

Do you want the fact b0oks on this thread or will you open another for them.
Chernobl
02-10-2008, 22:47
Just give me a pop. I'll say, 45 mil, same as me.
Chernobl
02-10-2008, 22:48
Make your own factbook thread.
Rithian
02-10-2008, 22:49
Is mine accepted? Also, I have to go somewhere, so I'll get one up tomorrow. I only have like thirty minutes left.
Chernobl
02-10-2008, 22:52
Yeah your in.
Rithian
02-10-2008, 22:54
Cool. I think the waving flag will be interesting to have, instead of a static one.
Ralkovia
02-10-2008, 23:04
Nation name: The Empire of Ralkovia
Government Type: (Empireship)
Leader: Devon Raskov
Location ( I'll make a map as people join):
Religion: Jewish
Ideals: Religious toleration for all, no political rights, the Emperor is always right
Population: 4/5 of what I can support
Flag (optional):
Chernobl
02-10-2008, 23:13
location?
Rithian
02-10-2008, 23:17
factbook here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14062439#post14062439 tell me what i'm missing.
Tocrowkia
03-10-2008, 01:18
So wait...we use our NS nations, but we're using real-world locations? o.o
Chernobl
03-10-2008, 01:20
I do that alot:D
Tocrowkia
03-10-2008, 01:22
That's a shame. I've all ways been terribly interested in this period of history and would have loved to use my NS nation in that setting, but I don't like the idea of having to use real world locations.
Chernobl
03-10-2008, 01:26
I dont see why.
Tocrowkia
03-10-2008, 01:28
I just prefer NS "Earth". I mean, my country is like, supposedly six times the size of Russia in NS, but where the hell would that fit in RL? RL Earth is too restrictive.
Chernobl
03-10-2008, 01:30
Well this doesn't NEEd to be your NS nation. Just RP something else, make one up for the RP tons of people do that.
Tocrowkia
03-10-2008, 01:34
But like I said, I want to RP my NS nation in this time period. :P
Chernobl
03-10-2008, 01:36
Then cut it down so its more true to life. I got a billion people but in this I got 45 million.
New Kereptica
03-10-2008, 02:59
Would it be OK if I RP a different nation from my own?
Chernobl
03-10-2008, 03:02
Definetly.
Rechburg
03-10-2008, 03:41
(Taken from the History of the Royal Duchy of Rechburg)

(Work in Progress)

Facts & Statistics
http://rechburg.freeforum.ca//a-overall-history-of-the-duchy-vf4.html
Nation name: The Royal Dutchy of Rechburg
Government Type: Ducal Monarchy
Leader: Duke Leopold
Location Germany
Religion: Catholic minority and Protestant Majority.
Ideals: Militaristic, Imperialist, Conservative, Patriotic
Population: 40 million
Flag: http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k411/Game-Images/Caesarsstandard.jpg

A History

As for all things, for the Duchy of Rechburg there was a beginning. As a nation Rechburg was born out of the Lamorian (Barbarians) Invasions 0f 350 AD. Prior to that time the area that currently constitutes as the Duchy of Rechburg was thinly populated by Nomadic Goth tribes with a sprinkling of Gregorian traders (Greek type people), the Gregorian’s representing the larger populations of the few existing towns and villagers.

The Lamorian invasion in 350 AD changed the face of the continent, as the initial wave of invading armies swept the small nomadic tribes aside, the barbarian merchants followed and settled alongside the Gregorian’s.
Both the Lamorian and the Gregorian merchants respected the achievements of each other, both recognised in the other the entrepreneurial energy that drives men to seek profit, which in turn drives the wealth of a nation.

By 500AD the Lamorian merchants had adopted the culture and style of the Gregorian’s, so much so that it became virtually impossible to separate the two races.
In 525AD Emperor Garth Hammerhead settled his court in Venetia, moving from the icy climates of the north to the almost tropical regions around Venetia and Monegro Bay. The court initially a simple hill fortress on coastal plains developed into a cultural and mercantile city.
Out of the increased levels of culture and merchants came a class of aristocrats that were simply known as the Nobles.
The artisans from the east came attracted by the nobility of the court as well as the colour and gaiety that the nobles offered, the merchants came for the riches of the nobility; and the army was officered by the nobility.
It was the nobility that brought true culture and “civilisation” to the continent, apart from Venetia other large towns started to develop, mainly on the southern, and eastern coasts,, these areas being closer to the neighbouring nations and the locality of each town favoured a particular neighbouring trading nation.
The interior and the east areas of Rechburg were extremely arable, the ample food grown there was supplemented by the ores, timber and riches of the northern Alpena Mountains, a harsh and cold area from which the initial Lamorian people had hailed from.

In 950 AD Emperor Julian II was murdered, this assassination instigated the 100 years war, it was a time of almost constant warfare intermingled with the occasional convenient peace treaty, treaties that were more often than not ripped up before the ink on them dried.
In 1051 the war was over, the rivals exhausted, the nobility classes thoroughly weakened and the continent lay exhausted and in ruins.
Large armies disbanded as the nobles became financially ruined and thus could not pay wages, these men turned to mercenaries and bandits. For over 10 years the continent was plagued by the bands of armed marauding men. Finally with almost all resemblance of culture and economy having been destroyed, the marauders moved on.
From the few Mercenary leaders and their families that remained grew another class of people, they were the Warrior Nobles. These few families gathered around them bands of men, but rather than seek to rob, pillage and destroy these families created a common bond that was sealed in the Knights of Rechburg, the name derived from the fortress of that name on the Regina river near which the treaty was signed and the brotherhood of The Knights of Rechburg began.

For 700 years little changed the brotherhood or Rechburg, they enforced the peace, protected the continent which became known as the Electorate of Rechburg, later in 1759 it was changed to the Royal Duchy of Rechburg. The rulers of the Duchy being appointed by election from within the brotherhood on the death or resignation of the current ruler.
The rulers of Rechburg were simply known by their Christian names, just as the current ruler is simply known as Duke Leopold.
With the stability of the brotherhood bringing peace to the Duchy, life was much easier, once again the artisans and the merchants returned., however by now much of the resources, the large estates, the mines and the large tracts of Forests were now owned by members of the brotherhood.
The new merchants being the typical adaptable entrepreneurial class became the producers and financiers of the goods owned by the brotherhood, they also became the importers of new goods from other neighbouring nations. The artisans reflected the militaristic nature of Rechburg in their arts and their fine works.
The walls of the art Galleries within the cities of Rechburg are adorned by the pictures of The Knights of Rechburg, heroic postures and glorious battle scenes being the norm with inRechburg society. The theatres resounded in the militaristic ballads and music while the plays reverberated in the glory of the Knights of Rechburg
The profession of soldier became the vocation of the young, especially since the only way one could become a Knight of Rechburg was through the military. Military schools and institutions developed.
The best armourers were sought from other nations, a new industry of armaments developed alongside the other industries.

Society within the Royal Duchy of Rechburg is strangely structured and yet it is not without the envy of many other societies.
The Warrior Noble class were the leadership of the nation, yet they assimilated they wealthy entrepreneurial class extremely well. They formed the majority of what was known as the Senior Legislature, there were however always a 30% representation of the middle classes on the Senior Legislature.
The senior legislature was responsible for the administration of the Rechburg Nation.

The middle class of Rechburg were the Professional solider societies, and the small business Guilds. This strata of society was rigidly protected by legislation that protected the smaller Guilds from being persecuted by the wealthier industrialists. The legislation gave the mercantile guilds very definite rights within the Rechburg society and business, Rights that the guilds protected jealously.
It was from the middle class that the majority of the lesser legislature was formed, it was from this class the Professional people developed. The more successful would strive to enter the senior Legislature, the remainder content to govern and advise the Duke from within the Lesser legislature

The lower classes were the farmers, manual labourers and small traders. They were by far the most numerous class of Rechburg society. This class of people were protected by legislation and by “peoples advocate”, these were people appointed by the ruling Dukes to advise on conditions and issues with the working class people.
For those striving to better themselves they could develop their ambitions either through the guilds or the numerous Professional solider societies of the middle classes.
However history has shown that the working classes, being as they were sheltered and protected by the legislatures and with little demands on them were content to live their lives in harmony.
The largest demands of the working class were the annual military registrations when males from 16 to 35 and not already in a professional soldier Guild were called up for 4 weeks of military training and troop exercises. These military exercises of new recruits and reservists were an annual event. It was at this time that Rechburg society flowered. At the end of the exercise and draft periods fairs, balls and social events occurred.
It was during this period that the military observed the more able soldiers and offered them the advantages of benefiting themselves by joining the Professional military guilds and ultimately working their way up society.
Rechburg
03-10-2008, 03:42
What percentage of the population are the military set at?
New Kereptica
03-10-2008, 18:48
dunno
Aeigis
03-10-2008, 21:13
Chernobl usually just has it as "realistic"
Ralkovia
03-10-2008, 21:24
My land is pretty much the south western (north)america, where texas and florida, hawaii, nepal and most of northern india and a fake landmass known as ralakon in between asia and america. I'll try and find a map.
Rithian
03-10-2008, 21:34
Updated factbook: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=567886
Serinite IV
03-10-2008, 21:42
Nation name: Serinite IV
Government Type: Anarchy
Leader: He-Who-Loves-His-French-Teacher Serinite IV
Location ( I'll make a map as people join): In the East Timor Sea
Religion: Universalist Unitarian (majority)
Ideals: Libertarian/Anarchist
Population: 25,000,000
Flag (optional):
[NS]Abdizia
03-10-2008, 22:10
What areas are taken?

Nation name: The Kingdom of Abdizia
Government Type: Monarchy
Leader: King Markus Tropell
Location: pending
Religion: Protestant
Ideals: Prosperity, the King and his Glory (Commercial, aristocratic, militaristic
Population (max 100 mil must be able to support): depends on what location I get, I know what I want my agricultural density to be so I need to know where I am located to tell you this.
Flag (optional): see my nations flag
New Kereptica
04-10-2008, 04:31
Nation Name: Allied States of New Kereptica
Government Type: Representative Democracy
Leader: Chairman Hans Enosken
Location: http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo205/new-kereptica/europe3.jpg
Religion: Lutheran, Calvinist
Ideals: Commercial, Industrial, Imperialistic
Population: 23 Million
Flag: See my nation's flag.

History: Evidence of primitive hunter-gatherer societies in the Kereptecian homeland (OOC: Denmark) has been found, and dated to over 100,000 BCE, though these societies disappeared around 70,000 BCE, at the beginning of the Weishel Glaciation Period. The first evidence of permanent habitation, was carbon dated to around 12,000 BCE, around the end of the Weischel Period. These sedentary villages practiced sophisticated agriculture, using all methods at their disposal to extract what meager crops they could from the cold soil.

The first true Kereptecian state was a product of a trading alliance between various cities in the Kereptecian peninsula and the surrounding islands, starting with the Kaara Pact in 403 CE. This alliance quickly spread to the north, incorporating cities in southern Scandinavia. By the early 800s, the alliance had spread to incorporate the eastern Baltic cities, as well as the trading centers of Amsterdam and Brussels. In 1034 CE, at the annual Kaara Pact conference in the capital of the alliance, the issue of permanent unification was raised. After weeks of fierce debate, the alliance was disbanded, and the Allied States of New Kereptica was created.

In the beginning, the loose confederacy that was proposed as the form of central alliance for the states seemed doomed to fail. Infighting was common in the Kereptecian Congress, literally, representatives from the various regions often brawled on the Congress floor. After 3 years of near-anarchy, the worst finally came to pass. In November, 1037, the province of Estonia declared independence from the States. This, it turns out, is exactly what the floundering country needed to become a single entity. The Chairman of the Congress at the time, Joseph Bidell, ordered that all provinces provide 10,000 soldiers for an invasion force of the breakaway province. At first, there was a massive objection to this measure. Nearly all of the delegates opposed this, yet the Chairman continued to press the issue. On January 5, Bidell gave his landmark speech:

*Translated from original Old Kereptecian*

“Gentlemen of the Congress of the Allied States of New Kereptica. We stand here today at a crossroads. Down one road, is our salvation. Down that road, the Allied States are triumphant. We are one, united under the banner of our own power. Down that road, we rule the world! Of course, as with every crossroads, there are two roads, two possible futures that may become a reality. Down the other road, is chaos. Down the other road is anarchy. Down the other road, is every nightmare that you have ever had.

I can assure you, that the Estonians are not the only ones that wish to break from our alliance. The fires in Amsterdam, the looting in Luxembourg, even the death of the Governor in Svedland. All of these events are tied together, tied to a massive separatist movement that seeks to undermine our authority and under mine out Alliance! I ask you, is this what you want? Can the lands under you governance afford the total lack of trade that will be brought on by this catastrophe? Can you afford the total lack of trade? It is no secret that you all are from extremely wealthy merchant families. Do you really think that your fortunes will survive when you not only have to support you own extravagant lifestyles as well as entire provinces? That is assuming of course, that the people will not take the law into their own hands, which is of course, what they will do. As soon as the Alliance falls so will you, and you know it. All I am asking is for 10,000 men. 10,000 men, a pittance to pay to avoid disaster. You all have both the means and the capability to support the quelling of this insurrection. The only question that remains, is do you have enough sense to do so.”

*End Translation*

Though Bidell's speech did succeed in eventually ending the rebellion and completely restructuring the Allied States into a trading superpower, it is by no means the complete romantic success that contemporary films make it out to be. It took another 2 days of constant debate before the final holdout agreed to send the requested troops. Under the command of General Joper Aksyllyvanden, the secessionists were caught and brought to justice, and the province of Estonia was officially re-allied with the other States.

With the Alliance back together again, and the weak structure the was in place before the November Revolution replaced with a more centralized Congress with much more power vested in Chairman. This allowed the Congress to spend time expanding and strengthening the Alliance. Soon after the Reincorporation, in 1193, the Alliance attacked that massive trading center of London, quickly overwhelming the uncoordinated defenders, and establishing a base on the island through which they quickly conquered the rest of mainland Britain. With the last major nautical commercial center in the Baltic and North Sea taken by the Kereptecians, they slowly set their sights to Asia.

In 1465, they sent their first exploratory vessel to the Pacific. Soon after that, more followed. In 1576, the Allied States established their colony in Hong Kong. It quickly developed into a major Asian trading center, with hundreds of ships departing daily for all corners of the globe. From that point on, the Alliance stagnated. They made no major acquisitions save for expanding the territory of their Hong Kong colony. Though they still made huge amounts of profit off of their massive trade and industrial ventures, most of that money sat in banks, slowly gaining interest for the good of the Alliance. That is, until the establishment of the Kaara Stock Exchange.

The Kaara Stock Exchange was not the first such organization in the world, but it certainly was the largest. By government mandate, every company in the entirety of the Allied States was listed on the KSE, and that exchange was completely open to the public. Anyone could buy shares, though it was generally not easy for them to get through the throngs of professional traders that flowed like a single graceful animal on the exchange floor. From the moment the KSE was open, many fortunes were made, and many more were lost.

Military: The military of the Allied States is one of the few government agencies not privatised. This is to ensure that the military serves the interest of all of the corporations in the States, not just the one. The military itself is largely made up of the massive navy of the States, which serve its interests across the oceans. The army, is not very strong by caparison, receiving only half of the funding that the navy receives, and serving only as a large government police force in the period of relative peace that the Allied States has enjoyed for the past 500 years.
Chernobl
04-10-2008, 04:39
Guys, you can just make a mini factbook explaining your bare bone stats. I don't need all your info.
Chernobl
04-10-2008, 04:42
also if anyone wants todo the map, im not terribly skilled.
Falkasia
04-10-2008, 05:05
Is it too late to join Chernobl? You seem to make icnredibly good and long-lasting RPs.

Nation name: Empire of Falkasia
Government Type: Democracy
Leader: Leonid Breshnev
Location ( I'll make a map as people join): Baltic Sea Area, right around the Danzig-German Border
Religion: (Religious Freedom) Protestant Christianity (78%), Catholicism (20%), Other (2%)
Ideals: Nationalism, Patriotism, Idealistism, Prosperity, Militarism, Industrialism, Commercialism
Population: 37 Million
Flag (optional): N/A
New Kereptica
04-10-2008, 05:30
oh.......well, basic stats are at the top. and il do the map. though it seems some people are waiting for you to assign then countries. also, multiple people are claiming the same piece of land. i trust you'll fix this.
New Kereptica
04-10-2008, 06:00
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo205/new-kereptica/coloredmap.gif

map of all claimed land

p.s. its huge. if you cant zoom in and read key save it and zoom in there. trust me, its legible.
Chernobl
04-10-2008, 06:07
Thanks. Everyone is accepted. Also factbooks are optional but bare info is neccasary. You know military and the like.
Chernobl
04-10-2008, 06:08
Falkasia accepted.
Falkasia
04-10-2008, 06:20
Thank you.
[NS]Abdizia
04-10-2008, 07:58
European Abdizia (Just take off the UK territories): European Abdizia (http://s372.photobucket.com/albums/oo161/Abdizia/?action=view&current=europe-1.jpg)

Colonial Abdizia: Global Map (http://s372.photobucket.com/albums/oo161/Abdizia/?action=view&current=coloredmap.gif)
Parilisa
04-10-2008, 12:57
Nation name: The Kingdom of Parilisa
Government Type: Monarchy
Leader: King Wilhelm III
Location: Germany
Religion: Catholic
Ideals: Oppresive, all controlling monarchy gaining power through inquisition.
Population: 12,000,000
Flag (optional): Prussian Flag
Chernobl
04-10-2008, 15:54
No Prussia is not. You will need to choose somewhere else. Everyone else accepted.
Parilisa
04-10-2008, 16:39
How about the area around Kalingrad and Lithuania?
Chernobl
04-10-2008, 17:13
I think that is open.
[NS]Abdizia
04-10-2008, 17:27
Chernobl did you see my claims?
Falkasia
04-10-2008, 17:47
Considering the fact that people are claiming monsterous chunks of land and limiting where other players can start, perhaps there should be a limit to how large your country can be.
Markiana
04-10-2008, 18:04
Nation name: Monarchy of Markiana
Government Type: Monarchy
Leader: King Markus the 12th
Location : I would like what is left of Scandinavia
Religion: Catholic
Ideals: Patriotism and nationalism
Population: 3/5 of what I can suppoort in there
Flag:
Rechburg
04-10-2008, 19:56
Sadly guys I will have to leave this game, which as it hasnt started yet wont effect things too badly, so the Germany region is open


Good luck to all.
Parilisa
04-10-2008, 20:25
Can I have germany instead of Lithuania then?
New Kereptica
04-10-2008, 20:37
since my map is now sorely out of date, can someone edit it? remove rechberg and add others that have joined?

i would but im tired and going to take a nap.
Falkasia
04-10-2008, 20:59
Well, I don't see why you can't have Germany, so long as I get the area around the Danzig-German Border
Parilisa
04-10-2008, 20:59
Sounds good to me!
Rithian
04-10-2008, 21:23
Chernobl, I think we have effectively gotten to the point where you can make an IC thread.
Chernobl
05-10-2008, 01:29
I'll work on it then.
Rithian
05-10-2008, 01:38
Aight then.