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Exterminatus Arms Releases M5A2 Carbine

Ustio North
27-09-2008, 15:58
Image (http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w123/Gazz6666/928399_20061019_screen007.jpg)

Background
Currently the standard weapon of choice for the Ustian Army, the M5A1 was concieved in 1962 by Ustio North National Arms. Since they went bust, the M5A1 has remained in circulation amongst the armed forces. In 2008, Exterminatus Arms bought the rights to begin manufacturing the M5A2 Carbine.

Design
The M5A2 Carbine's butt stock and grip are made from wood. The rest of the rifle (barrel, bolt, and bolt carrier) is made from steel. The M5A2 has a set of iron sights as standard, but since the M5A1, it has been upgraded to include a Picatinny mounting rail, to which the user can attach either a conventional sighting system or numerous optical devices such as night vision scopes. The underbarrel also has room for the M200 40mm underslung Grenade Launcher (included with weapon).

Another improvement since the M5A1 is the cartrige. Originally a .30-06 Springfield cartridge, testing during re-design showed that the .30-60 was too heavy a cartridge, thus making the weapon very inaccuarate when firing. Hence, it was reduced down to a 5.56x45mm NATO cartridge.

The M5A2 utilizes direct impingement gas operation; energy from high-pressure gas tapped from a non-adjustable port built into the front sight assembly actuates the moving parts in the weapon. Combustion gases travel via a gas tube above the barrel directly into a chamber in the bolt carrier behind the bolt itself, pushing the carrier away from the bolt. This reduces the number of moving parts by eliminating the need for a separate piston and cylinder and it provides better performance in rapid fire by keeping reciprocating masses on the same axis as the bore.

The weapon is cleared by removing the magazine, pulling the charging handle to the rear, and inspecting the chamber. To load, the magazine is inserted into the well. To prepare the weapon for firing, the weapon is cocked by pulling the charging handle to the rear, and letting go to ensure the bolt closes properly. "Riding" the charging handle often causes the bolt to fail to close properly.

When the magazine is exhausted, the bolt locks to the rear; by replacing the empty magazine with a fresh one, and pressing the bolt release, a new round is chambered and the soldier may immediately commence firing.


Specifications
Weight: 4.0 kg (w/o M200 Grenade Launcher), 5.2kg (w/ M200 Grenade Launcher)
Length: 1,214 mm
Barrel length: 610 mm

Cartridge: 5.56x45mm NATO
Action: Gas-operated, open bolt
Rate of fire: 300–650 rounds/min
Muzzle velocity: 805 m/s
Effective range: 600m
Feed system: 50 round ammunition clip

Price: $1,000 USD Per Weapon

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OOC: NS Draftroom guys, C&C is welcome. Credit goes to Insomniac games for the picture.

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Jeuna
27-09-2008, 16:47
i bleev exterminatus, EXTERMINATVS, and EXTERMINATVS D:< are registered trademarks of the MAXIMVS D:< estate
Tagmatium
27-09-2008, 16:57
OOC: It's a .303 British in the game, isn't it? So isn't the magazine somewhat too long for 5.56 NATO? And 50rd mag's pretty weighty.
Ustio North
27-09-2008, 16:59
i bleev exterminatus, EXTERMINATVS, and EXTERMINATVS D:< are registered trademarks of the MAXIMVS D:< estate

OOC: You mean Doomingsland? Did I not make it clear in the Storefront thread I informed him of this, and he said he did not mind me using the word?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13684167&postcount=34

Now can we move on from that, as you started that argument the first time in my storefront?
Ustio North
27-09-2008, 17:03
It's a .303 British in the game, isn't it? So isn't the magazine somewhat too long for 5.56 NATO? And 50rd mag's pretty weighty.

OOC: It is a .303 in the game, yes. However, as it's had to be modernised to compete with modern carbines I thought a smaller, lighter cartridge would be in order.

What do you mean by the boldened bit? I didn't actually post the length of the magazine, but I'll work it out if you think it would help. 50 rounds was also the original size, so with the .303 round it would be very heavy - the other reason the A2 has a smaller cartrige
Tagmatium
27-09-2008, 17:09
OOC: It is a .303 in the game, yes. However, as it's had to be modernised to compete with modern carbines I thought a smaller, lighter cartridge would be in order.

What do you mean by the boldened bit? I didn't actually post the length of the magazine, but I'll work it out if you think it would help. 50 rounds was also the original size, so with the .303 round it would be very heavy - the other reason the A2 has a smaller cartrige
OOC: I meant as in image-wise, the magazine looks like it's longer than the 5.56 NATO round, more suited for the .303 than anything else. I dunno, 'spose it's more of an observation than anything else.
Ustio North
27-09-2008, 17:14
OOC: I see. Well, since i'm useless with most image editing software (I can crop images, but that's about it!) i'll have to leave it as it is. Do you have any other suggestions for improvements?
Tagmatium
27-09-2008, 17:50
OOC: I see. Well, since i'm useless with most image editing software (I can crop images, but that's about it!) i'll have to leave it as it is. Do you have any other suggestions for improvements?
OOC: Not personally. I don't know enough to make any comments on the muzzle velocity et al, so I can't really help on that front. It is a nice-looking piece of kit, providing quite a satisfying amount of old features (like the wooden butt) and new ones (like the equipment rails).
Ustio North
27-09-2008, 18:47
OOC: Not personally. I don't know enough to make any comments on the muzzle velocity et al, so I can't really help on that front. It is a nice-looking piece of kit, providing quite a satisfying amount of old features (like the wooden butt) and new ones (like the equipment rails).

OOC: Well, thank you very much for your input anyway :)
Imperial isa
27-09-2008, 19:00
ooc mag close to what 7.62 round one looks like , oh what game ?
Ustio North
27-09-2008, 19:25
OOC: Resistance Fall Of Man/Resistance 2

http://uk.gamespot.com/ps3/action/insomniacshooter/index.html
Gun Manufacturers
27-09-2008, 22:34
OOC: Looks like an Mini 14 with an M-203, thumbhole stock, and 20 round mag. If the mags going to hold more than 10-20 rounds, it should be curved.

IC: The ASoGM would've been interested in purchasing some for testing, but the price is higher than we'd like. If the price drops, we will re-examine our funding for weapons testing, to see what's left in the month's budget.
Ustio North
27-09-2008, 22:41
OOC: Looks like an Mini 14 with an M-203, thumbhole stock, and 20 round mag. If the mags going to hold more than 10-20 rounds, it should be curved.

IC: The ASoGM would've been interested in purchasing some for testing, but the price is higher than we'd like. If the price drops, we will re-examine our funding for weapons testing, to see what's left in the month's budget.

EA would like to inform The ASoGM that any weapons needed for testing & evaluation will be given free. However, we must limit the number exported for testing to 500. If that is satisfactory, we will fly the weapons out as soon as possible.
Crookfur
27-09-2008, 22:53
OOC:
Hideous and fail picture. Who ever came up with that should be ashamed, I can sort of see where they coming from with BAR mixed with M14 socom but the stock is epic failure and the barrel doesn't seem to connect to the receiver.

In short this is not a picture for a 5.56mm Carbine.

On the gun itself, the main description seems to be a copy and paste from the M16 wiki page but the actual stats make it a horrible alternative the the M16, being too heavy, having an unexplianably slow rate of fire (with no notes on how variable rate of fire is achived), a too large magazine (a 50 round mag will be too heavy and bulky to be comfortably used) and with a barrel that makes a lie of the Carbine title (a 5.56mm carbine would have a 14-16inch barrel(355- 406mm)).

Oddly enough the effective range might actually be doable.

MV is however too low it should be 930m/s (for the M885 loading) or 975m/s (for the odler M193)
Ustio North
27-09-2008, 23:29
Thanks for the input - Will make appropriate changes ASAP
Gun Manufacturers
28-09-2008, 01:08
EA would like to inform The ASoGM that any weapons needed for testing & evaluation will be given free. However, we must limit the number exported for testing to 500. If that is satisfactory, we will fly the weapons out as soon as possible.

The ASoGM would like to accept your generous offer.
Ustio North
28-09-2008, 10:04
Then the weapons are being flown out as we speak.
Ustio North
28-09-2008, 11:32
Okay, the new Specs Write up. C&C welcome - I kinda want this to work.

Specifications
Weight: 3.6 kg (w/o M200 Grenade Launcher), 4.8kg (w/ M200 Grenade Launcher)
Length: 1,004 mm
Barrel length: 400 mm

Cartridge: .303 British (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.303_British)
Action: Gas-operated, open bolt
Rate of fire: 750 rounds/min
Muzzle velocity: 930m/s
Effective range: 600m
Feed system: 20 Round Box Clip

Price: $750 USD Per Weapon

Now cheaper too.