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Selling: The design for the MBT-11

Roef
25-09-2008, 18:55
Hi, as you know, first a had problems with making designs and such...
But, i went to draftroom, and there is a result: The MBT-11.
Now, i sold some, for around 450 million. And now, i sell the design.
You all can bid for it, and if you buy it, you may change it, and/or re-sell it, changed of not. Here's the design:


MBT-11:
Crew: 4, gunner, commander, driver, loader
Engine: AGT-1700 turbine engine
Weight: 67 tons
Lenght: 9.8 meters
Height: 2.1 meters
Range: 1220 meters
Armor: Steel Plate, depleted uranium, titanium, ceramics, tungsten
Speed on road: 53 mph
Speed off road: 44 mph
Fuel: 1800 liters
Commanders gun: M2 - .50 cal
missiles: 7 ATGM missiles
Turret: 120 mm L45 Smoothbore
co-axial: M242 machine gun
Further information:


Classification: Military main battle tank
Manufacturer: Roef deisgna
Designer: Ravian Remijnse
Designed: 2001
Country of Origin: Roef
Years of production: 2002 - 2007
Users: Roef-ian military
Numbers Produced: unknown

Some small rules:
-Just bid, if anybody bid higer, bid again or quit.
-Roef gets 0.50% of all you make, less than 1%.

Thats it.
Parilisa
25-09-2008, 19:16
How much you selling the design for?
Roef
25-09-2008, 19:19
Bid. But, it makes good money, and in the times i sold it, i made 450 million with it...
Just, offer something, and we will discuss it, or accept it.
Ustio North
25-09-2008, 19:22
Bid. But, it makes good money, and in the times i sold it, i made 450 million with it...
Just, offer something, and we will discuss it, or accept it.

OOC: Just a word of warning Parilisa. This design has only been around for a few days - a week maybe. He's probably just got bored because no-one was actually buying it.
Parilisa
25-09-2008, 19:23
Ok then. And you currently own full rights to this yeah?

Shall we start in the region of 500million? I don’t know how much you want
Parilisa
25-09-2008, 19:24
Ustio North
He says he made 450million out of it, is that a lie?
Roef
25-09-2008, 19:25
OOC: I got bored yes, but somebody DID buyed it, i made 450 millino with it, and its good, and if you dont think its good, go away. I am selling it, making a new design, selling the tanks, selling the design, making a new one, selling the tanks, selling the design...
So on.
Roef
25-09-2008, 19:26
Ustio North
He says he made 450million out of it, is that a lie?

No its not, or it coud be 400 million, o, and i sold it to somebody else on some almost never posted topic...
Well, i think 500 million is perfect! Its a deal.
Parilisa
25-09-2008, 19:27
Ok then, 500million it is.
Ustio North
25-09-2008, 19:28
Ustio North
He says he made 450million out of it, is that a lie?

OOC: Don't know, could be. Hold that thought, and i'll check it for you.
Roef
25-09-2008, 19:28
OOC: I think around 400 to 450 million. Parilisa, 500 million is good, more than i hoped for...
Ustio North
25-09-2008, 19:33
OOC: I think around 400 to 450 million. Parilisa, 500 million is good, more than i hoped for...

OOC: Actually, it is a lie. Roef, if you look at the old MBT-11 thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14030359&postcount=10), Totemic and you agreed a price, but he never wired the money - legally, you didn't actually sell it. In fact, if you look, he never posted again in that thread.

The "wiring-the-funds" post is very important in buying/selling on NS - if you don't post one, no transaction takes place.

So Roef, you haven't actually sold any yet.
Holy Marsh
25-09-2008, 19:34
OOC: Roef, you should hve done this in the MBT-11 thread. You sell DPR rights, that is how it works. This thread is wasted space.
Roef
25-09-2008, 19:35
OOC: WOW! UN, your right, funny... Il post him a massage, telling to wire it.
Holy marsh, a waste of space dont even exist. there coud be 400.000 hreads in this if we wanted to, so, shush.
Parilisa
25-09-2008, 19:36
In that case the deals of, this things is effectively worthless. Sorry Roef.
Ustio North
25-09-2008, 19:37
OOC: WOW! UN, your right, funny... Il post him a massage, telling to wire it.

OOC: WOW! You're not funny!

Don't TG him telling him to wire the money. If he doesn't want to buy it, you can't force him.
Roef
25-09-2008, 19:37
OOC: Alright, deal off. BUT WORTHLESS?! No, its not! Its a good design, and i am proud of it! I will show you, i will make money with it, and than, we see if its worthless.
Roef
25-09-2008, 19:38
OOC: Yea, i cant force him ,but i thinks he wants them.
Parilisa
25-09-2008, 19:39
That's not what I meant, I meant you haven't made any money of it. Yes it's a good design, but it doesn't seem to sell.
Ustio North
25-09-2008, 19:39
OOC: Alright, deal off. BUT WORTHLESS?! No, its not! Its a good design, and i am proud of it! I will show you, i will make money with it, and than, we see if its worthless.

OOC: I never said it was worthless - I just said you hadn't sold any. Holy Marsh rightly said this should have been part of the original MBT-11 thread, and that making this thread entirely for DPR's on one tank was a waste of space.
Holy Marsh
25-09-2008, 19:40
OOC: WOW! UN, your right, funny... Il post him a massage, telling to wire it.
Holy marsh, a waste of space dont even exist. there coud be 400.000 hreads in this if we wanted to, so, shush.

And I could make 400,000 threads about chocolate and it would be just as good as this topic. JUST AS GOOD.
Ustio North
25-09-2008, 19:43
And I could make 400,000 threads about chocolate and it would be just as good as this topic. JUST AS GOOD.

OOC: Now now, let's keep this Civil.
Roef
25-09-2008, 19:44
OOC: To: Holy marsh

Yea great idea! Do that! I like choclate to!
Holy Marsh
25-09-2008, 19:45
OOC: Thing is Roef, that would be a waste of space and time on people's browsers. Why? They'd have to run through my junk topics to get to any real topics. This is the same thing. There is no reason at all for a second topic, this one to sell the design of the MBT-11.

And Ustio, I'm not angry.:P
Ustio North
25-09-2008, 19:47
OOC: To: Holy marsh

Yea great idea! Do that! I like choclate to!

OOC: *Clears throat* Roef, see my last post, and don't give me reason to call the Mods in here.
Roef
25-09-2008, 19:48
OOC: I know, i was beign sarcastic... Well, all go away and DONT POST if you dont have a intresting thing to tell me.
Ustio North
25-09-2008, 19:50
And Ustio, I'm not angry :P


OOC: I know, i'm just trying to keep it Civil - you've seen what happens when people take the piss out of Roef, his designs and his military.
Holy Marsh
25-09-2008, 19:51
OOC: I know you were being sarcastic. You aren't exactly a master of the language. And I'll post in this thread if I so please. If someone doesn't try to help you, then you won't get better and frankly, you NEED to get better because right now people usually read your threads for the laughter factor and not much else.
Roef
25-09-2008, 19:54
OOC: Than i am the most loved player in NS arent i? If everybody died from happines at my threads, i think i am doing well.
Ustio North
25-09-2008, 19:56
OOC: Than i am the most loved player in NS arent i? If everybody died from happines at my threads, i think i am doing well.

OOC: In a word, no.
Roef
25-09-2008, 19:57
OOC: Coud you, just never talk to me again? I am really getting angry, now SHUT UP!
Holy Marsh
25-09-2008, 19:57
OOC: They are laughing because your topics usually involve lots of OOC comments directed at trying to help you that you get angry at because they don't say you're perfect. Seriously Roef, you don't take advice and you bull on ahead with every poorly conceived idea you have. Even then, if people try to help you, you get angry at them. There is nothing at all wrong with selling DPR rights- I do it, most people with their own designs do it. However, starting a new TOPIC just for that? Very, very lame.
And we don't care if you're angry. We're trying to help- your fault that you get angry over that.
Ustio North
25-09-2008, 20:02
OOC: Coud you, just never talk to me again? I am really getting angry, now SHUT UP!

OOC: Excuse me? I am merely stating the facts. Would you like a list of people who you've annoyed?
Holy Marsh
25-09-2008, 20:03
OOC: Ustio, I think you have a life to lead that would preclude you from writing such a massive list.
Ustio North
25-09-2008, 20:06
OOC: Ustio, I think you have a life to lead that would preclude you from writing such a massive list.

OOC: Harsh - Not true though, it mainly consists of Me, Lynion, Salzland, Ursava & possibly You.
Tolvan
25-09-2008, 23:09
That's not what I meant, I meant you haven't made any money of it. Yes it's a good design, but it doesn't seem to sell.

There's a reason for that, why buy this when you can get the Mac's Nakil, Aequatio's Mackall, Lyras Wolfhound, or any of the other excellent NS tanks?
Third Spanish States
26-09-2008, 02:04
I never sold a single unit of my Sino 2A1 MBT or of the Sino Stealth Tank. They are definitively worth, but I think I'm a poor marketeer with little of fancy pictures to sell my stuff and with not enough OOC reputation(or "Join Date") neither enough technical knowledge or interest to get deeper in the details and tl;dr, and that crappy storefronts draw away attention from the good ones, or maybe the market is already totally saturated as every Joe has a Nakíl, and as I have questions the effectiveness of APNano concepts and the methodology of using heavy tonnage tanks as MBTs I can't outperform it or Lyran tanks regarding protection without tech-wanking or making unworthy sacrifices in firepower, sensors, mobility and speed.

As for this thread, it's completely superfluous. And tbh this looks like the content of those sites that sell grants to the Eiffel Tower or the Niagara Falls. Handling a design over in the way that can be interpreted itt is an extremely obvious sign of giving up any attempt to improve or sell it.
Stoklomolvi
26-09-2008, 02:25
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Stoklomolvi will bid $1.000 on this design. Over time, we may add a cent or two, but for now we will bid one dollar.

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Ardchoille
26-09-2008, 02:59
A thread where players spend half their time OOC telling other players to be polite is not a successful RP thread. Closed.