NationStates Jolt Archive

What is the NS Draftroom (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?act=idx)?

The NationStates Draftroom is an off-site forum dedicated to the design of “NationStates technology”, whether it is a tank, an assault rifle, some type of ship, an aircraft, or whether it is past technology, modern technology, post-modern technology or future technology. In this regard, the board has seven forums dedicated to designing and criticism (the object is to have your design peer reviewed to ensure factual accuracy); Ground Warfare, Naval Technology, Aeronautical and Space Design, Munitions, Miscellaneous Sector, Future Warfare & Design and Commissions. To give an idea of traffic, the Ground Warfare forum has 576 topics and 6,935 replies as of 10 September 2008. Each forum has its group of “experts”, as well – for example, in regards to ground mechanization there are a number of members who know quite a bit about armored vehicles (Nianacio, Sumer and myself), while there are others who know a lot on small arms.

Apart from healthy criticism for those who want their designs reviewed, the NS Draftroom also includes several forums which exist to discuss concepts. This includes Argument and Debate, Strategy and Tactics, Concepts of Engineering, Applying Historical Lessons to Our Virtual Battlefield (a history forum), and a Military Technology News forum. Here one can discuss the merits of a diesel submarine versus a nuclear submarine, or what the best assault rifle caliber is. One can discuss infantry tactics or naval tactics. One can have an idea peer reviewed (Concepts of Engineering).

The Draftroom also has what it likes to call its Library. This includes a forum dedicated to the preservation of PDFs and other sources which some people may find handy. The goal is to one day have a server where PDFs can be stored and organized, so that they can be easy to find. There are several members with thousands of PDFs on hand (I, for example, have well over 1,000), and it would be nice to make these available to everybody. This section of the board also includes a forum for what are called NS Informatives, which will also be posted on this thread little by little. There are currently only a handful, but ideally we would have dozens. These informatives could be on anything. For example, one of the existing ones is on electrothermal-chemical technology, making it one of the most factually accurate resources on this technology currently on the web. They are meant to educate members, and they are written only by members. Third, this section includes a forum for interviews, which are interviews of NationStates designers. Through these, you can get a feel for what they do and how they do it, and it’s pretty interesting.

The NS Draftroom has also taken over the International Mall, recently. Here, designers have storefronts, where all can see them and order through them. We have them both for modern technology and future technology, and I’m normally pretty good about setting them up and whatnot.

Then of course, we have our off-topic section, which includes forums where we discuss NationStates, roleplays, ourselves and other random things.

All in all, it’s a pretty useful tool and we’re always happy to have new members. We have, of course, our dose of e-drama – some of our older members probably didn’t get out much. But, it’s generally a pretty good place and you can get very good feedback. It is true that we have a general tendency to shun those who don’t agree with us or dislike us, such as a few designers on NationStates, because of their refusal to accept our comments, but most members are down-to-Earth. Most nations on the NS Draftroom are also the active role-players of NationStates, so it’s always a good way of getting into the game. You don’t need to be a designer, necessarily. You can just comment on designs, buy them, or talk about other things that don’t have to do with design. The forum is open to all.

Draftroom Informatives
Armored Fighting Vehicles [General]
Macabees, Improvised Explosive Devices & Mine Resistant Vehicles (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=2145)
Tank Technology
Macabees, Electrothermal-Chemical Technology for Tank Gun Propulsion (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=164)
Macabees, Large Caliber Tank Guns for Lightweight Platforms (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=2071)
Macabees, Problems Encountered with Higher Caliber Tank Guns (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=1514)
Power Plants
Vault 10, Issues of turbine design for high-efficiency hydrogen combustion (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=2427)
Strategy & Tactics/Historic
Macabees, Disembark Whatever it Costs: Spanish Amphibious Assault at Alhucemas, 1925 (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=3003)


Link: NS Draftroom (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?act=idx)

We also have an IRC channel, which is easy to access and has really turned into the International Incidents channel. To get into the channel you first need an IRC program. If you use Firefox, I suggest Chatzilla (http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/). If not, use mIRC (http://www.mirc.com/), until you find something better (ignore the comment about you having to pay - after 30 days it won't let you log in at first, but after a few seconds it will). If you use Chatzilla, you open the program by opening Firefox, going to Tools and then clicking on Chatzilla.

Once that opens you type:

/server irc.esper.net

When the server window opens and loads type:

/join #draftroom

Most programs allow you to automate those scripts, so you don't have to do it every time you log on. Just ask in the chat. You can get autovoiced in the channel (to avoid random server purges or to avoid not having a voice when the channel is moderated) by registering your nickname. That is done the following way:

/msg NickServ REGISTER password email (change password with password of your choice and email with your email)

Then, to identify yourself you type:

/msg NicKServ IDENTIFY password

You can automate this last script, as well.

^ Wholeheartedly recommend these folks.

Quite a dark-humoured bunch, most of them (lulzwhores that they are :P), but if you put the effort in, they'll inevitably provide you with some really good advice.

And #d is just crazy. I...I tend to avoid it. I talk enough crap in real life!

The NSDraftroom is not for the faint of heart or for those who can't stand jokes about mothers and genitalia (usually in the same sentence).

Just as a cheap advertisement, one of the informatives has actually been published in the online history magazine AllEmpires. This is the Issue (http://www.allempires.com/article/index.php?q=Issue_20), and the link to the exact article is here (http://www.allempires.com/article/index.php?q=battle_alhucemas).

Just as a cheap advertisement, one of the informatives has actually been published in the online history magazine AllEmpires. This is the Issue (http://www.allempires.com/article/index.php?q=Issue_20), and the link to the exact article is here (http://www.allempires.com/article/index.php?q=battle_alhucemas).

Not that you're tooting your own horn or anything ;)

Congrats are well due on that, BTW. If that's not evidence of expertise, I don't know what is...

Is this just for weapons tech or will the group happily throw their two cents in on other NS technologies.

Is this just for weapons tech or will the group happily throw their two cents in on other NS technologies.

They'll cover just about everything you can throw at them.

Taggy.

Is this just for weapons tech or will the group happily throw their two cents in on other NS technologies.

Anything, really. We have a section for civilian technology. There hasn't been much interest for past tech equipment, and so we don't have a dedicated forum to that yet... but we will look over it, regardless.

Bump ^_^

Hey, I got a proposal for ya. Can we talk on MSN?

Everything in my storefront is run by the Draftroom.

Huntaer, I haven't been able to get on MSN lately, so just telegram me, if possible.

Huntaer, I haven't been able to get on MSN lately, so just telegram me, if possible.

I'm on right now if you can see me, point taken though.

Bump. ^_^

Wasn't there a temporary second site that was less tyrannical in regards to the mods?

Wasn't there a temporary second site that was less tyrannical in regards to the mods?

... yes, the one that is linked to on the opening post. It's not "temporary", it's the Draftroom (Sarzonia's Draftroom is no longer used). I've only banned two people on the NSD, Vault 10 and Masspwnage.

Bump!

They best way to avoid any confusion in an RP or settle the "wank" question is to go through Draftroom. You can learn a lot from the place, design better things that your enemies won't be able to ignore.

At some point I will purge everyone with 0 or 1 posts.

The Great NSD Purge of 2008? Stalin!!!

lol. Nice reference Lay. And by the way Mac, there is still a temporarily suspension on my account for like...the next two years. I'd think in light of this new regime change and drive for the NSDraftroom, it might be lifted seeing as I've paid my penance in spades.

lol. Nice reference Lay. And by the way Mac, there is still a temporarily suspension on my account for like...the next two years. I'd think in light of this new regime change and drive for the NSDraftroom, it might be lifted seeing as I've paid my penance in spades.

As I recall, I permabanned you for repeated acts of plagiarism, which is a non-penitential offense under the NSD rules. There hasn't been any regime change on NSD, though Vault and I have both left as mods (for different reasons).

lol. Nice reference Lay. And by the way Mac, there is still a temporarily suspension on my account for like...the next two years. I'd think in light of this new regime change and drive for the NSDraftroom, it might be lifted seeing as I've paid my penance in spades.

The Mac-regime is the original one on this "new" NSDraftroom, no changes.

Originally, the NSD was run by Sarzonia. But, this was ... over a year and a half ago.

We should move to rename that Draftroom as NSD Archives.

That still doesn't answer my question.

Rosdivan already answered it: You were permabanned for copypasting other people's designs, which is considered non-penitential, or in other words, it's not a punishment, but simply something definitive, because there is nothing more frustrating to someone who took a time to think about a concept for a fictional design and its feasibility than to have it copied by someone else without any given credit. Emphasis on Perma. But you can still consult people individually to ask for advices on designing, and maybe, if you start to make original designs and post them here, contacting people like Rosdivan, Mac and V10 among others to ask technical questions, you might be given a second chance.

NSD considers all designs to be copyrighted by their creators.

Bump.

Who's having trouble with the forums? Hopefully, we will be rid of these problems soon.

Baw, I can't edit my tank any more since the forums are down :/ .

Who's having trouble with the forums? Hopefully, we will be rid of these problems soon.

I am on them fine, I don't know if you are yet but they loaded rather fast.

"layarteb, Lamoni, Wagdog, Granate, Willink, Sumer, Waldenburg, Brydog, Zinaire, shenyang" are on them.

I highly recommend this site for anyone who is even vaguely interested in military technology in NationStates.

Bump; anybody is welcomed to join and discuss, even if you don't design weapons. ;) We also talk about strategy. :p

I highly recommend this site for anyone on NS who happens to be easily bored and/or wants to learn about military design/tactics on NS.

It should be noted too that most of the developers on NSD are also the same ones making kickass designs over at Lineartinc.

Fo' sho'.

Bump.

I must recommend this with the upmost stress. Honestly, you can design something so disgusting and stupid and within a few days of listening to helpful advice from everyone there your design will be near perfect with some obvious tweaks.

Even if you get bored with designing it is a huge friendly community where we discuss things in Real Life and trade jokes, we debate NS fun 'n shizzle. Honestly those forums are just as good if not better than these- whenever i'm looking round the net I go on to NSD before I do NS.

I agree. :p

Wikipedia's Today's Featured Article was written by your's truly. You guys should go check it out. <_<

I really would love to see a featured article about one of the Landesas :D

I really would love to see a featured article about one of the Landesas :D

I don't have the sources to get it to a featured article. :( Next Spanish tank in line, once I can get the principle book on it, is the Trubia A4.

As a loyal Draftroom member, I thought I'd give you a cheap bump.

funny

we should just move to nsd archives

bump

bump izzle

OOC: Please don't meaninglessly spam our threads.

OOC: It is rude when you do that.

It's funny how those are his only four posts.

['Nother cheap bump]

I'm guessing that's a custom title, Mac (under your username) - when did you get that?

Past 10,000 posts you can set your own custom title, I think.

Yea, I just checked my user options or whatnot and I found out I could set it.

[10000 Posts...better start making more pointless posts such as this]

[10000 Posts...better start making more pointless posts such as this]

To help you along in your spamming quest, 1 down-7,691 to go. :D:p

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Originally, the NSD was run by Sarzonia. But, this was ... over a year and a half ago.

As for NSD, the last time I was there Sarzonia was still alive, so while things have change at NSD, it's interesting to see that you keep alive what the essence of NSD was, Macabees. So, I would have to agree with the others. It's worth a look even if you decided not to become a member and/or submit any designs.

^^^^

Which usually ends with people becoming interesting in making their first design for NS with various degrees of sucess. But never failure, on NSD every design is a good one- it just needs tweaking. The support you get on those forums is second to none probably anywhere on the Internet... yes... the whole Internet.

[UE, you may want to know that I posted our joint project up on the NSD a few centuries ago, I gave you all the credit. They were very much quite impressed]

NSD is nothing but a place for Flamers and Cyberbullies, I will never get on that Side EVER.

This user is on your Ignore List.

Anyway, a flamebait like what the previous post was is better to be left in this way: ignored, and perhaps reported because this is getting old and annoying to read on.

NSD is nothing but a place for Flamers and Cyberbullies, I will never get on that Side EVER.

There is some flaming that goes on in the NSD, but in general it's alright.

There is some flaming that goes on in the NSD, but in general it's alright.

I think most of it is friendly jest between us salty old timers. :D

There is some flaming that goes on in the NSD, but in general it's alright.

I think you're mistaken Mac. There is no flaming on NSD we don't have any sort of phenomena like that on NSD. [imitates tone of Ahmadinejad when talking about gays in Iran]

There is some flaming that goes on in the NSD, but in general it's alright.

http://www.fanforhire.com/images/comical_ali.jpg

Topical humour gtfo, classics only.

B7hammer plox.

B7hammer plox.

The following is an important service announcement to anyone seeking out NSD.

The language spoken at NSD is not necessarily an understandable language. Please do not let it deter you from using our site.

NSD is nothing but a place for Flamers and Cyberbullies, I will never get on that Side EVER.

Ryou I'm hurt by your words, you really see me like that? In fact I hope no one sees me like that which then defeats your point that NSD is full of flamers and cyberbullies.

FYI readers: Nationstates Draftroom rulezzzz

OMG Mac, Catalanofascism strikes again... Just another case of "The Man" keeping me down.

In all seriousness though, it's a good community to get into, just be prepared for along hazing ritual if you're new. A sense of humour (humor for the Americans) is required.

NSDraftroom is probably the best part of all of NS, for me. And yes, a sense of humor is required.