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Telegram
From Ab'dul Imoney
To all who will listen

People of the world and of the World Assembly. I must ask for desperate assistance from everyone who can offer it. Our nation has just broken away from the Corporatist Tyrannical government of Natziley in the hopes of establishing a peaceful democratic society. Unfortunately a few days after the revolt our Parliament was bombed and all but a few heads of government assassinated. War is imminent but we are to few to stand against the Might of this nation. We request 3 things:

First recognition of our sovereignty.
Second: Military, medical a food aid packages mainly land mines ammunition small arms and aircraft.
Thirdly: allies to assist us in combating this threat.

I app lore you to help us maintain our Independence and end 50 years of oppression and enslavement for my people. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Thank you for your time.

Ab'dul Imoney

Official Communiqué

Emirate Of Sultenia
Armed Forces of Sultenia

The goverment of Sultenia in has in democratic opinion and according to the interests of our fatherlands economy had mandatory vote over the issue.

The Emirate of Sultenia will not recognize any terrorist group that just carves out a piece of land and declares it a nation from an independent and free society as Natziley.

In response to this we encourage the nation of Natziley to use whatever means necessary to quell this uprising to prevent civilwar and international turmoil as this area according to our analysts will likely be used as a safe haven for international terrorist organizations and we advise all nations in the free world to do the same.

Official Declaration of the Ursavian Government

Since Sultenia throws around the word 'terrorist' like it's free candy, we were required to take a study of this situation. So now, with a majority vote, the government of Ursava officially recognizes Novanicstan as a free, and sovereign state. Military forces have been placed on-call in order to help defend the nation of Novanicstan from attack and aid supplies will be delivered when requested.

Official Communiqué
Emirate Of Sultenia
Armed Forces of Sultenia

After debating the subject, to preserve national unity, to avoid dissent and national instability the goverment of Sultenia outlaws all organizations supporting the independence of Novanicstan by verbal, material or financial methods. Collaboration with foreign terrorist organizations as well as domestic is a crime and considered national treason. Suspected traitors will face a closed court, found guilty, traitors will face a firing squad.

The Emirate encourages all voulenteers of Natziley to free your opressed brothers in Novanicstan that are now imprsioned by a minority despotic regime.

The Phoenix Milita recognizes the new nation of Novanicstan as sovereign. We will not give you weapons, but we will offer to host peace talks between your nation and Natziley. And if Natziley refuses the talks, we may consider sending a small peacekeeping force to the region. We call for an immediate preemptive cease fire - before things get ugly. If you agree to this we will send medical and food supplies by air at once.
-Robert Merillion
Sec. of State

OOC: Novanicstan, will you be RP-ing Natziley? Because I did a search, and that nation apparently doesn't exist (unless you're running it for this RP). Thank you in advance for your reply.

IC: The Government of Salzland is always glad to welcome a new elected government into the world, and will be happy to provide humanitarian aid to this new nation. Should hostilities erupt, then an unproportionally large deployment of the Salzland Defense Forces shall also be committed to the defense of Novanicstan.

OOC: http://www.nationstates.net/04153/nation=natzailey

OOC: Thank you kindly... just goes to show you what happens when you think Cyrillic and type English. Stupid Russian exam. My mistake.

Of course, in my defense, the nation name was spelled incorrectly in the OP.

"Quick! another newly formed nation, another chance to profit!" Exclaimed Serge Strong to his fellow leaders, upon learning of the state being formed.
"I shall get our leaflets delivered to their government right away!" replied Abu Harris Serges' Deputy.

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To: Novanikstan
From: The Republic of Il Korea

We will recognize the soveriengty of your nation, and are willing to offer you any type of help you need, including Military assistance and Humanitarian aid.

I thank everyone for their replies and opinions. Any assistance people offer will be most appreciated. The main things we need are food and defense weapons technology. We do not wish for any more blood shed but will defend our selves against those who wish to destroy us. We are currently unable to obtain a great deal of food because of the pollution that plagues all of the territory once under Natziley, and our industry is rebuilding slowly because we are just a week old nation. As said before any supplies would be appreciated.

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((OOC: We are the nation of Natzailey, a land of 1.8Billion people. We are horribly that you would misspell our name, but he spelled it Natziley))
NCCN Open Communique

After one hundred years, Natzailey is finally achieving peace, and through this one hundred years, we have achieved great things.

We are sad to declare that we cannot recognize Novanicstan's independence on the following cases:

1) Billions of dollars in financial assets belonging to Natzailey Corporations exist in Novanicstan.
2) You slaughtered some of our best scientists and men in a mindless revolt to steal these assets.
3) You have accumulated a debt from your prior citizenship that must be paid as you were citizens of Natzailey. The debt that has been accumulated average around 75,000NC ($3,000 NSD) a person, and with nearly 100M people, that would be a debt of of 7.5T NC ($300B NSD). This would be a massive blow to the economy.
4) You have stolen several sensitive systems and corporate secrets in your mindless revolt.
5) There are millions of Natzailey citizens within your border that do not wish to be part of your nation. Natzailey citizens may live in borderline existence, but they still need their home which you took away from them.
6) You dropped a nuclear weapon in Natzailey waters, killing over a million innocent people.

Therefore, we believe it is only justifiable for the following to be given if you wish for your nation to be recognized independent from the motherland of Natzailey.

1) 25T NC ($1T NSD) to be paid over the next year to cover missing assets, dead personnel, your national debt, and stolen land.
2) Return or destruction of all corporate systems and secrets to protect our corporations on the world market.
3) And a message to the citizens of Natzailey within your borders that they are free to return to the slowly reforming government of Natzailey.

Once all these conditions are met, Natzailey will recognize your sovereignty and independence. If you cannot agree within the time of 2 months, we will be forced to invade your nation and take back our 25T NC by force.

Natzailey may be made of Corporations, but we recognize the right to owning your own property. Also, you will be identified by Natzailey as a nation that has no understanding of the concept of the right to own what you make.

If that is the case, then we will show you how it feels to be robbed of your inherent rights. Natzailey already knows what true freedom feels like, and the price of it, we hope that you choose the right decision.

Natzailey will accept payments from other nations at a 25% increase of the debt value.

And all nations that see the value of Private Property, we will gladly pay you in your assistance of advising Novanicstan to take the option of paying for their freedom or coming back under the corporate rule of Natzailey.

All messages are to be forwarded to NCCN, National Centralized Corporations of Natzailey, which is a new Corporation in Natzailey. This is our governing headquarters which we are to handle all future operations and manage corporate and social life in Natzailey.

First of all we have no Nuclear arms. But to show how response able you are there are still 29 unaccounted for suitcase nuke in your nation. perhaps one of your gangs or corporations used it to obliterate that fleet that was lobing cruise missiles at your nation?

Secondly, those corporation that came with us came of their own free will and the technology was theirs to do with as they liked. Further more, all industry in on our land was created on novanicstanian land during your occupation.

Next, those so called reparations that you ask for can not and will not be given to you. It is the money you owe my people for the near enslavement, poverty stricken state and the environmental damage done by your corporations during the occupation.

Finally, your people can leave when ever they want. We are not going to stop Natzailey citizens from returning to your nation nor will we prevent the immigration and emigration of any peoples from our lands.

I respectfully request an end to these oppressive demands and your recognition of our sovereignty and independence.

Respectfully,
Prime minister Ab'dul Imoney

( by the way you forgot to E-mail me the power point last night and I need that to finish the class project)

To: Natzailey
From: Empress Isabella of The Revolutionary Empire of The Ryou Black Islands

We Agree that you should get your money and People back from Novanicstan, even though your Demands on them are a bit Harsh. If it should come to a war, We will Surport your nation.

NCCN Open Communique

Regarding the first, we are aware of the movement of some nuclear weapons, and there are a couple within your borders. Natzailey citizens love their nation and would never conceive of nuking it. Killing each other and bombing buildings, yes, but not nuking it. We are borderline insane, not stupid.

And you have the proper motive to nuke the Generic Empire's Fleet where as Natzailey only wanted a peaceful resolution. You have shown that you are not afraid to resort to violence on a international scale to get your point across, and what is to stop you from doing it again.

Second, we recognize corporations that wish to leave Natzailey, as we believe they have earned their right to be independent as they have no debts.

Thirdly, the property there that you use now was PAID FOR by Natzailey Based corporations. That is highway robbery of private property, it is like grabbing a person's gun and using it against the owner! Which is exactly your intention.

Fourthly, we laugh at your statements of enslavement, poverty, and environmental problems. What you are stating is that we offered you people infinite freedoms and your people didn't know how to prosper in great freedoms. You had the freedom to organize and adhere to any group you wanted, and we left you alone. You had the freedom to own weapons and shoot anyone you wanted. But you never took the freedom to start your own corporations, so the overall wealth you claim now is truly the genius of Natzailey people. Also, our people live in the same exact state, but they are coming to slowly realize that violence destroys nations, not save them. This is a lesson your people need to learn. Took one hundred years for Natzailey to realize it, I doubt you realized in in the fifty as you are repeating history now.

Fifthly, we appreciate our agreement of free movement between our nations.

Sixthly, debt and running away with that debt is robbery and fraud. All sane and morally upright people will recognize this.

Lastly, our demands are not oppressive, but protecting what is rightfully ours, while you take it by force. Violence is not the answer.

We recognize that you are a young nation with no governing experience, but Natzailey is interested in aiding its next door brother so long as they aide theirs.

We appreciate any action you take to promote both your and our inherent right to freedom, private property, and sovereignty. You violate the second, we hope you recognize that.

To: Empress Isabella of The Revolutionary Empire of The Ryou Black Islands
From: Tsai Carnam of NCCN (National Centralized Corporations of Natzailey)

We recognize our harshness, but we have properly evaluated all resources and values.

We also calculated into our "cruelty" and shaved off 500B NSD of our originally perceived debt. Making them pay only 2/3s of what they owe is a fair thing I believe.

We believe that wage slavery is only in the mind of the worker if he does not try and rise in the ranks in society.

Natzailey has learned that and that is why we are still alive after one hundred years of civil war.

May the gods aide us in our soon to be destiny.

To: Empress Isabella of The Revolutionary Empire of The Ryou Black Islands
From: Tsai Carnam of NCCN (National Centralized Corporations of Natzailey)

We recognize our harshness, but we have properly evaluated all resources and values.

We also calculated into our "cruelty" and shaved off 500B NSD of our originally perceived debt. Making them pay only 2/3s of what they owe is a fair thing I believe.

We believe that wage slavery is only in the mind of the worker if he does not try and rise in the ranks in society.

Natzailey has learned that and that is why we are still alive after one hundred years of civil war.

May the gods aide us in our soon to be destiny.

We shall still help your nation, giveing weapons or sending troops to help in your fight against The Novanicstani Terrorists.

Signed: Empress Isabella.

OOC: I replied to the arms deals, and remember the two nations only receive the telegrams adressed to them.

OOC: I apologize

Firstly, if you no where these Nuclear weapons are in our nation why haven't you contacted our government before so that the proper retrievals and disbarment or return of the Nuclear arms could be exercised.

Secondly, We had no quarrel with The Generic Empire. They were leaving us alone and that only started once we left your nation.

Thirdly, this highway robbery, as you call it, of your property is an outrageous statement do you intend to suggest that the soviet/ Russian factories put up in the eastern European area were stolen when the eastern European block left the USSR?

Fourthly, Being treated as second class citizens after your nation is violently invaded at the cost of tens of thousands of our peoples lives really puts us on a good paying field to get ahead in a society such as your. not to mention the fact that my people never wanted to be part of your nation in the first place. Further more, are you saying that it was wrong for us to take the only escape route we could in the mists of the violent civil war in your nation and the attacks on your people from outside powers? Would you not have done the same thing if your places were switched? Are you telling me that you would have stayed with a nation in a near anarchical state and allowed it to destroy your homes, your industry, your environment, your very civilization?

finally , we are not running away from debt, we simple believe that it has been payed by the occupation of our lands without our invitation, the killing of tens of thousand of our people and the destruction of our environment and way of life.

Thank you for your time and i hope that we may come to an accommodation by peaceful means.

In the interests of global stability and securing stronger economic and political ties with the nation of Novanicstan, the Government of Salzland is willing to pay the $500 Billion debt accumulated by that nation to the country of Natzailey. We will not pay the 25% "increase of the debt value," as that amounts to no more than a blatant attempt to extort the international community in return for peace. This is a non-negotiable offer to the Government of Natzailey; you may accept it and prove to the world that you are peace- and freedom-loving people, as you claim, or reject it and show where your national values truly lie.

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To: All Parties Involved
From: ASD Command

Re: Independance

Message: The ASD, according to its charter must accept the call for aid from Novanicstan, and we do recognize them as a soverign nation. To those who have declared that Novanicstan is a terrorist state, we do not wish to enter into conflict with you but our representatives have spoken and we will defende their soverignty if threatened. We are also willing to help to defray the costs to Salzland by paying 250 of the 500 billion dollar debt.

signed,
Jarek Mace
President of the ASD


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to:Novanicstan
we are prepared to defende your nation should that be required, that being said we understand your wish to refrain from all out war. As such we are pulling together an inventory of equipment that us cyurrently surplus and that we could send to you. If you could give us an Idea of exactly what sort of weaponry (heavy armor, artilliary, IFVs etc.) you would like that would help us greatly in speeding up this process.

To: Salzland
From: Tsai Carnam of NCCN

We will accept the $500B NSD, but we still require another $500B NSD to pay the rest of the debt.

We also know that Novanicstan does not have more than $200B NSD to spare, so we do desperately require more resources to not allow our system fail do to one rogue nation.

Also, we require the destruction of all our secrets that exist in Novanicstan. We will protect our secrets to the best of our ability.

We are a nation that is of its word, but we hold sacred the right to ownership which we are happy for you to recognize.

To: ASD Command
From: Tsai Carnam of NCCN

You are willing to aide in the elimination of the debt of Novanicstan? If so, please discuss all matters of debt with me.

To: ASD Command
From: Tsai Carnam of NCCN

You are willing to aide in the elimination of the debt of Novanicstan? If so, please discuss all matters of debt with me.

To:Tsai Carnam of NCCN
From: ASD Command

we are currently . . .unimpressed by what we see as your exploitation of Novanicstan and the manipulation of the international community. That being said we are willing to defray Salzland's costs in their bid to free Novanicstan but the maximum amount for which we can do this is 250 billion NSDs.

To: All Parties Involved
From: Prime minister Ab'dul Imoney

We thank everyones help in the repayment of our debts to Natzailey. You are doing us a great service during our time of need and we will repay you as soon as we can.

One last thing, we have no Natzailey secretes we are a nation of people would just wish to grow and remain independent. we will as an act of good faith help Natzailey in the reclaiming for their nuclear arms from your soil in cooperation with the Natzailey government or ruling body.

Thank you everyone for your assistance in these time of trial.

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to: DaWoad
Their main weapons are a huge infantry force made up of a 25, 30 and 40mm semi auto assault rifle, a few out dated land vehicle's and helicopters as well as limited nuclear capabilities and a stealth aircraft of sorts, however little is known about their stealth aircrafts capabilities.

To: ASD Command
From: Tsai Carnam of NCCN

We are not exploiting, but protecting our property. Even a dog recognizes what is rightfully his and will defend it.

Even if you help reduce Salzland's cost, that will still reduce the debt to $500B NSD. We will gladly accept it as we do want to allow Novanicstan to go peacefully, but we must have and get returned what is rightfully ours.

We hope a nation like yours would recognize this request.

To: Novanicstan
From: Tsai Carnam of NCCN

If you are as honest as you claim, than we request that we are to send representatives from all Natzailey interested Corporations to overlook all our files.

They may request sensitive files, but they are particularly concerned with just their corporations we assure you. We will permit the secret of other corporations to be kept, but not in regarding concerned corporations.

There are over two dozen people that wish to enter and observe the situation and ensure that your word is as true as you claim.

The Speakers of Sarrowquand cannot condone the region of Novanicstan for its part in perpetuating the cycle of violence in Natzailay and for breaking with the social contract during a time of war we will not recognise the new government of Novanicstan until the current instability within the state as a whole begins to resolve itself.

Both Natzailey and Novanicstan should be aware that we remain commited to our pledge to restore the natural beauty of all of Natzailey and this will include the de facto autonimous region of Novanicstan. Because of this and as a show of faith to the people of the Novanicstan region we will pay of the remaining debt incurred in exchange for permision to set up an ECA station in Novanicstan. We feel that this is in your best interests as no matter how you feel about each other politicaly, ecologicaly you still share a bond and the Environmental concerns agency will work on restoring damage in Novanicstan.

We know that the people of Natzailey have a closed currency and little interest in foreign capital so we will provide the balance of Novanicstan's debt in the form of materials most needed to rebuild and relieve Natzailey.

DoSA cargo planes are already on route to Martis Keisht carrying Anaesthetics, antiemetics and antibiotics, as well as geiger counters and decontamination units. Upon recieving your permission specialist ECA wardens will also be dispatched to the effected zone to help coordinate the response to the bombing.

We must caution other states that it was the armed intervention of foreign powers that led to this detonation. Please consider the psychology of Natzailey before deploying to the area.

The Government of Salzland wishes to commend the Governments of DaWoad and Sarrowquand for their assistance in securing freedom for the people of Novanicstan. It is our sincere hope that both Novanicstan and Natzailey are now able to peacefully co-exist.

We will, however, continue to monitor the situation and are prepared to provide additional aid for Novanicstan should it be required.

We appreciate the gesture of Sarrowsquand and on the arrival of the $500B NSD from DaWoad and Salzland, along with the resources of Sarrowsquand, we will recognize your debts as gone.

Further more, we have yet to receive permission of our corporate agents in to ensure our secrets are not in control of the Novanicstan Government.

Upon this, and finishing the search, we will recognize your full independence.

The Government of Salzland wishes to announce that it will withold payment until the issue of economic inspections is determined, one way or the other.

Edit: Should hostilities erupt over this point, we wish to reserve the right to withhold funds.

The Dominion of Sarrowquand wishes to announce that Dominion Naval Freighters under government contract have already been dispatched, as our portion of the balance is being paid in re-construction materials we see no need to delay payment. This is not however a criticism of The Government of Salzland which has every right to dictate it's own terms.

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Dear Government of Novanicstan,

The Griffincrest Corporation is deploying several ships to the area to begin humanitarian aid missions. We are prepared to begin accepting refugees, as well as set up shelters, distributte food and medicine, and deploy forces to keep the fighting away from major civilian areas. We hope to hear from you soon.

Sincerely,

Claudius Griffincrest

To: To Whom It May Concern, Salzland
From: Tsai Carnam of NCCN

We will recognize your right to withhold payments and reparations. As to what you require for the payments to be done, we do ask you what.

We can assure you that all our assets have been properly evaluated, and corporate secrets are indeed kept. If we were to mislead the public on this detail, it would not be very profitable for Natzailey in the slightest.

OOC: Just to clarify my last post, all I'm doing is waiting to send you the $500 Billion until you and Novanicstan settle all of your other issues, so that I'm not drawn into a conflict to protect Novanicstan's sovereignty at the same time I'm sending/ have just sent the "aggressor" half a Trillion NSD.

OOC: I knew what you meant, I was just saying that I recognize your right to do what you want with your property. I was just reinforcing the idea that Natzailey believes strongly in owning and using their property accordingly, and theft is a horrendous act.

To all parties concerned

We will be more then happy to allow any and all inspectors into our nation. We just have a few requiernments:

1. no inspectors may carry any weapons in Novanicstan.

2. an investigation board of all members involved will be sent with the inspectors to varify the findings and they may have a limited number of armed security forces.

3. all parties involved have diplomatic immunity but that does not grand them the right to begin shotting things up.

If these conditions can be agreed upon we will happily weclome with open arms the Inspectors and investigation board.

To: All Parties Involved
From: Prime minister Ab'dul Imoney

We thank everyones help in the repayment of our debts to Natzailey. You are doing us a great service during our time of need and we will repay you as soon as we can.

One last thing, we have no Natzailey secretes we are a nation of people would just wish to grow and remain independent. we will as an act of good faith help Natzailey in the reclaiming for their nuclear arms from your soil in cooperation with the Natzailey government or ruling body.

Thank you everyone for your assistance in these time of trial.

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to: DaWoad
Their main weapons are a huge infantry force made up of a 25, 30 and 40mm semi auto assault rifle, a few out dated land vehicle's and helicopters as well as limited nuclear capabilities and a stealth aircraft of sorts, however little is known about their stealth aircrafts capabilities.
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understood. What sort of weaponry would you like for your forces? Secondly would you like direct help in defending your nation? the ASD can offer you both special operations forces and regular heavy infantry, navel or air forces should you wish them. Finally be weary of others who offer to defend you. Some have been know to take over nations they were "defending".

To: ASD Command
From: Tsai Carnam of NCCN

We are not exploiting, but protecting our property. Even a dog recognizes what is rightfully his and will defend it.

Even if you help reduce Salzland's cost, that will still reduce the debt to $500B NSD. We will gladly accept it as we do want to allow Novanicstan to go peacefully, but we must have and get returned what is rightfully ours.

We hope a nation like yours would recognize this request.

we accept that you wish to have property and essentially nuclear weaponry returned. That being said. From our point of view it seems like you are holding a sovereign nation hostage to extort the international community into paying you off.

To: ASD Command
From: Tsai Carnam of NCCN

The property value is of something that Novanicstan does not wish to pay back, so what is the alternative? Logically, so long as the debt is payed, it shouldn't matter who pays the debt, unless if they have an agenda to destroy a nation economically. As a nation and corporation, we value all people's rights to function normally, but retain the right to claim what is theirs.

Also, if your property was stolen right under your nose by a terrorist organization, what would you do? We are protecting our land and property, which have been taken forcefully from us. Suppose I pay terrorist organizations to pay terrorist organizations to take parts of your country away? I assume you would feel the same as we do. If you don't, then you have no pride in your own property.

And the Sovereignty is in question as they have violated many human rights, such as killing innocent civilians in a violent uprising.

This isn't hold a nation hostage if they are in debt to you or has harmed you greatly. Just note that Novanicstan is working through terrorist organizations to obtain its equipment, and more and more nations will suffer violent rebellions if this process does not end now!!

END THIS BEFORE IT SPIRALS OUT OF CONTROL!! For the sake of humanity, do not let this nation find reasons to work through terrorists to get their political opinion through! If such an action is condoned, you condone Terrorism! And are you a supporter of international terrorism? I pray you are not.

To: Novanicstan
From: Tsai Carnam of NCCN

We are sad to decline the second requirement.

An investigation board will make our secrets open to the public, and a person's word to keep something secret cannot be accepted.

All finding are to be forwarded back to NCCN headquarters ASAP to verify if we intended it to be a secret.

Also, we fear that due to the second one, you will use the security forces to silence our findings and protect your nation.

The first one we can comply with, purely because this is an investigation, not a gun fight.

The third we agree to as we do not want our men tried in your courts, as they will be biased in your favor if we do find important findings.

Please note that we do identify you as terrorists, but we want to introduce you into our international community. But your introduction is unacceptable to the nation and people that you have hurt.

We also make the request for our inspectors to inspect the following:
-All financial purchases of all individuals in the past year
-Investigate all Governing offices
-Background Check of all Governing Individuals
-Investigation of all Property that belongs to Natzailey.
-Access to all records regarding our Corporations

If you are as innocent as you claim, you will accept all of these terms.

We hope that you will understand why we do, what we do.

First of all, we will have no security forces anywhere near your people the other members of the parties involved may have a few of their own bodies guards.

Secondly, you may have all financial purchases of every individual over the past year up until the Revolution, mainly be cause we don't have that information currently available and if you have a way of knowing what everyone purchased before the revolt its yours to do with as you like.

Thirdly, you can investigated all the property that belongs to Natzailey as you want but I don't know what that would tell you because there is no Natzailey property here.All we have is Novanicstan property. We will compile you a report of all Novanicstan Cooperate property and allow you access to their records. However access will not be granted to our military bases or any of our military scientific or supply installations. Further more, we will be notified of all transmissions and communique from your people to your NNCP and of a general description of what the topic will be on, it does not need to be specific but just a general idea. (ex. Building construction, Automotive industry)

Finally, The fact that you find us a terrorist organization is an incorrect analogy. We have not preformed acts of terror against your people. We have allowed your people to come and leave as they please and there have been no crimes against your people committed by any Novanicstan citizen. You were in the middle of a civil war when we left and finally regained our freedom. We did not kill your people for any political agenda, in fact the only people killed in the fighting were Natzailey citizens who fought back during the Revolution. Since then now Natzailey citizen has been killed or attacked with in or outside of Novanicstanian borders and no Natzailey person as been killed or attack by and Novanicstanian citizen.

OOC: Do we have permision to set up an ECA station in Novanicstan.

To: ASD Command
From: Tsai Carnam of NCCN

The property value is of something that Novanicstan does not wish to pay back, so what is the alternative? Logically, so long as the debt is payed, it shouldn't matter who pays the debt, unless if they have an agenda to destroy a nation economically. As a nation and corporation, we value all people's rights to function normally, but retain the right to claim what is theirs.

Also, if your property was stolen right under your nose by a terrorist organization, what would you do? We are protecting our land and property, which have been taken forcefully from us. Suppose I pay terrorist organizations to pay terrorist organizations to take parts of your country away? I assume you would feel the same as we do. If you don't, then you have no pride in your own property.

And the Sovereignty is in question as they have violated many human rights, such as killing innocent civilians in a violent uprising.

This isn't hold a nation hostage if they are in debt to you or has harmed you greatly. Just note that Novanicstan is working through terrorist organizations to obtain its equipment, and more and more nations will suffer violent rebellions if this process does not end now!!

END THIS BEFORE IT SPIRALS OUT OF CONTROL!! For the sake of humanity, do not let this nation find reasons to work through terrorists to get their political opinion through! If such an action is condoned, you condone Terrorism! And are you a supporter of international terrorism? I pray you are not.
For the record we do not support international terrorism. We do support a nations right to sovereignty. We are and have been willing to pay for this nations freedom rather than go to war over it. Please do not force our hand on this. Accept the 500 billion NSDs that are offered and be on you way.

Official Communiqué

To: Novanicstans Goverment

We have observed several terrorist organizations within our nation supporting your cause we must ask of you to keep a functional police force as many terrorist groups use transitional regimés to cover their activity and find safe havens, this is of our concern and international security. We must also inform you that several members of organizations (pro-Novanicstan) now banned and illegal may have fled to your region to escape justice. We ask that any Sultenian nationals found in your region are turned over to The Emirate of Sultenia to face a fair court and a hope to clear their names.

To: All whom is concerned
From: Tsai Carnam of NCCN

We have developed an alternative that may be suited to your interest, serve the interest of Natzailey, and serve your interest in sovereignty.

The land you live on is to become the rightful property of Natzailey and the NCCN, which can be loaned out to you at a reasonable and fair cost. As you pay for the land that you actually use, that will be deemed your tax to NCCN. You with your land paid, are free to do whatever you wish, establish some form of local governance to district laws.

If it serves your governance better, we may create a 10th district breaking apart from Maris Keisht named after you nation.

If you agree, the few things we will ask you to do is:
1) Adopt the Natzailey Credit as your form of currency, as it now has been adopted as a transferable currency, and is going up in value quickly.
2) Pay whatever land value by the square mile at the time. It will be reevaluated like all land every five years.
3) Be willing to accept military activity for no purpose other than national defense.
4) All products that you make must be sold directly to the NCCN at its regulation price. The prices go up and down depending on several research institutions, and is evaluated twice a month.
5) All citizens are willing to be part of the national draft system.

You rights will be:
1) Adopt a local currency, so long as you accept the credit in all your institutions.
2) Establish your own social contracts that do not override the NCCN corporate contracts.
3) Have a private army
4) Set up your own corporations and businesses, so long as they sell all goods and services to NCCN.
5) Your debts will be nullified, and your rental of the land will be identified as the method of covering corporate losses.
6) Decide on what happens on your land that has been loaned to you, you own it as it is your place to decide what is right and wrong, good and evil, and so on.

The NCCN ensures that no product nor service goes to waste, it is there to serve the corporations and provide jobs to all people.

We feel that this is the best method for your nation to retain a level of sovereignty, and save many Sultenian, Natzailey, and Novanicstani lives.

Note to all other organizations, if this is agreed upon, no nation needs to cover the debt of Novanicstan. Also note that this is not a take over nor oppression, as Natzailey survives only because of Corporations, and only does what is overly profitable to them.

to whom it may concern,
this "compromise" is nothing more than a denial of the sovereignty of novicanistan. The ASD will not tolerate the kinds of actions shown here by Natzailey and we are willing to move forces to Novanicstan to defend it against the Natzailey aggression should that be requested. Natzailey this is your final chance to quit while your ahead. Accept the 500 billion dollar payoff and leave Novanicstan alone.

To: All Involved Parties
From: Office of the Minister for Foreign Relations, Salzland

Upon reading the alternative offer presented by the NCCN, it is the official recommendation of the Government of Salzland that the Government of Novanicstan reject the alternative offer, accept the original offer (allowing the international community to cover the "debts" extorted by Natzailey) and end the matter. Independence, even at a cost of treasure instead of lives, is infinitely more valuable than eternal serfdom and borderline slavery, which is the only guarantee provided by this "alternative" proposal.

Should the Governments of Novanicstan and Natzailey accept the original terms for independence, the Government of Salzland will forward the $500 Billion promised to the NCCN, in return for the question of Novanicstani independence being forever resolved in favor of the Novanicstanis. Failure to do so will result in the immediate termination of negotiations with the NCCN and full diplomatic recognition for the Government of Novanicstan including, but not limited to, a full Mutual Defense Treaty.

The longer this matter is unreasonably drawn out, the thinner the Armed Republic's patience is worn. Acceptable terms were already all but signed. We urge both sides to reach an agreement with all possible speed, in the interests of peace.

Signed,

J. Marcus Davis
Minister for Foreign Relations

Open Message
The Emirate of Sultenia

To all nations supporting the independance of Novanicstan

Just carving out an area of soil and declaring itself an independant state is a disgrace to intenational law and a threat to intenational security, if you even care about Novanicstan make sure the people in the region can defend themselves before you start supporting unexisting nations. An indpendence now would only mean that the region would fall to foreign terror due to a lack of security forces. The demands that the goverment of Natzailey makes are more than reasonable, give them federal independance and local governace and then a full declared independance as soon as they prove they can maintain their own nation without civilwar erupting or unwanted interests moving in.

A real independance comes slow and strong and before you choose sides maybe the people of Novanicstan might want to have a say before war or uncertain future falls upon them, do the people of Novanicstan want an independance? Is there an official public opinion in favour of their "liberators" or their cause?

To: All Involved Parties "In Favor" of Sovereignty in Novanicstan
From: Tsai Carnam of the NCCN

The most that they have to do is pay just the land values that they have. Tell me what freedoms they won't have in a federal government?

The only difference is a Corporate Leader leading the Federal Government. They will be permitted their own armies, make their own treaties, their limits are what they put on themselves.

But what is the opinion of Novanicstan, as you speak only of sovereignty, not prosperity. Often prosperity comes at the cost of a certain level of sovereignty, which Natzailey and Sultenia seem to understand.

OOC: I just spent the last thirty minutes typing out a beautiful reply, then I got a stupid "Microsoft Internet Explorer has encountered an error and must close" message and lost everything. Boo. This reply gets the point across, but (IMO) is vastly inferior to the other one.


IC:

To: Tsai Carnam, NCCN
From: Office of the Minister for Foreign Relations, Salzland
CC: Involved Parties

Sir,

You ask us 'What freedoms will Novanicstan lose under the alternate proposal?' We must answer, all of them.

You argue that Novanicstan will be permitted to raise its own armies. What good are these armies when Natzailey also mandates that all citizens of Novanicstan, including its military forces, are elligible to be pressed into service in the Natzailey Armed Forces at any time? What good will these armies be when they can only be equipped using funds raised exclusively from goods sold to Natzailey, at prices determined by Natzailey? Surely the absurdity of this argument strikes one such as yourself. Under this system Natzailey would have numerous opportunities to exercise control over any attempts to establish an independent Novanicstani military, making your arguement that they have "freedom" in this instance blatantly untrue.

Next, you argue that Novanicstan will be free to make their own treaties. We must ask, what value will these treaties have when Natzailey will have the ability to exercise unlimited veto powers over them? From the start Novanicstan will not be able to sign economic treaties, because they would be forced to sell goods and services solely to Natzailey, at the prices determined solely by Natzailey, under this agreement. Political treaties would be equally useless, as you yourself admit that Novanicstan would only be permitted to set up local governments, subservient to Natzailey and the NCCN. Military treaties would serve only to aid Natzailey, as any training or equipment donated or sold to Novanicstan would be eligible for immediate nationalization by Natzailey.

The Armed Republic has made itself clear twice now that it views the original proposed agreement as the least-objectionable proposed thus far. No further deviations from that agreement will be tolerated, unless they explicitly fall in the best interests of Novanicstan and the Novanicstani people. We will not tolerate selling out Novanicstani independence in return for their enslavement to the Natzailey political, economic and military leadership. You speak of prosperity taking precedence over sovereignty. Salzland will only accept Novanicstan having both; we will not accept a return to the status quo where Natzailey is the sole beneficiary to all Novanicstani economic, political and military assets.

Signed,

J. Marcus Davis
Minister for Foreign Relations

******

To: The Emirate of Sultenia
From: Office of the Minister for Foreign Relations, Salzland
CC: Involved Parties

Sirs,

As the independent nation of Novanicstan arose out of a popular revolt, we have no problems recognizing them as a legitimate entity. They are not an "unexisting nation," as you argue. Nor will the Armed Republic take kindly to having its Foreign Affairs policy dictated to it.

Upon the successful resolution of the current situation in favor of complete Novanicstani economic, military and political independnece and sovereignty, the Government of Salzland is willing to immediately offer to deploy peacekeeping and stabilizing forces to Novanicstan. We anticipate other nations will join us in this endeavor, to ensure that no threats to Novanicstani sovereignty and freedom, either domestic or foreign-based, are allowed to develop.

We do appreciate, however, that your nation's sole concern in this matter is clearly what lies in the best interests of the Novanicstani people.

Signed,

J. Marcus Davis
Minister for Foreign Relations

((OOC: Ouch, I would have loved to have read the better post, but I will manage.))


To: Office of the Minister for Foreign Relations, Salzland
From: Tsai Carnam of NCCN
CC: Involving Parties

All Grand Leaders and Representatives,

What is the price of prosperity that you wish to afflict Natzailey with, when it wishes to spare the international community of large quantities of debt, and to exist in a federal government type system. You are claiming that this state of Novanicstan within the nation of Natzailey is unable to protect itself.

The military within Novanicstan may belong to the Novanicstan and protect their district, but if need calls for it, they will be defending Natzailey along with their district. Along with their own individual power, the NCCN will be obligated to defend Novanicstan as Novanicstan is to defend the opposite borders of Natzailey.

Natzailey is only now recovering from a 100 year war, and believe me when I make the statement I am done with internal warfare, but I will protect our land.

Also note that if they so despised Natzailey so, they could have migrated freely to another nation in to make their claim. The alternative they took was take what was ours.

Also, if nations are free to be born out of popular revolt, Salzland, can be considered legitimate powers, than all dictatorial nations that rose by military conquest are as legitimate as rising through the ranks of society. Natzailey lives off of merit and success of a few individuals, and do to that we support nearly 1.9 Billion people.

The draft system is only to be instituted in purposes of defense, not offense which is outlined with every employment contract there is in Natzailey. If you can work, you can defend a nation type of philosophy.

You also claim that Natzailey is the sole beneficiary in Natzailey? You are ignoring the fact that the corporations in Natzailey hire nearly the entire populace, create jobs, disperse wealth, and increase the overall living standard of Natzailey. Why we wish to share this type of growth is the overall profits in the long run are worth it.

You also overestimate the range of our political, economic, and social abilities. The only way we can only control the population is through the hiring process and agreeing to "not do a particular action on penalty of death." The corporations are free to act in any particular fashion in Novanicstan, so long as they fall within district laws. Such as the Maris Bosht that has instated minimum wage and worker protection laws, but those areas have suffered heavily from mass unemployment due to such a turn of events.

We allow the market to alter all decisions so that we are most profitable and the production of wealth. It is relatively not profitable to restrain extensive civil liberties, so most corporations permit extensive liberties upon contract signing.

The role of the NCCN is to level the playing field and make all of Natzailey competitive against the world market, and Novanicstan will be able to run profitably through this organization. We are not evil, but purely running for a large profit on all levels of the government.

We recommend no more threatening messages are sent till Novanicstan makes a decision and accepting the alternative.

(OCC: Sorry Salzland, got that one or two times myself, change to Firefox and save your replies in Word or other program if your going for a long one and then modify it in the "reply" after you "copy & paste" from Word. Thats what I do.)

Diplomatic Message
IAOFR
Internal Administration Of Foreign Relations

To: The Goverment of Novanicstan.
Copy to: The Minister for Foreign Relations, Salzland, J. Marcus Davis. And involved nations supporting Novanicstan

In respectful response, The Emirate of Sultenia cannot accept Novanicstans independance if not following conditions are met.

Vote on the indpendance. Without an independant neutral vote and the opinion of the people this is nothing more than a hostile occupation of a region under rightful Natzailey rule.

Proof of rightful cause for independance, is Novanicstan so different from Natzailey in costums, moral laws, tradition, culture and standard that independance is necesery? Is there no hope that Natzailey and Novanicstan can exist within the same borders without internal conflict?

Security Forces, Novanicstan must prove that they are able to put up a standing army and police force without foreign aid, Sultenia will not accept foreign peacekeepers, relying on the goodwill of other nations is not reasonable nor right, the peacekeepers might aswell be a prior annexation force as protectors.

Support of international security, turn over any Sultenian national found in Novanicstan to the Emirate as the NSGS (National Security Group of Sultenia) suspects them of national treason.

Proof of competence, can the goverment maintain their own economy, the beaurocracy and the planning to govern a nation?

Civilian support, the people of Novanicstan must show themselves capable to build and maintain a self sustaining agriculture policy and fresh water reservoirs to ensure people can live within their borders.



These basic terms must be met, otherwise no nation can function and chaos will take over. Did any involved nation even considered these issues before jumping to the "approve" stamp when Novanicstan declared independance? Or is involved parties more interested in somthing else rather than a rightful sovereign national independance?

OOC:sorry . . .short but sweet.

To: all involved parties
the ASD fully Backs novicanistan in its bid for Autonomy. That being said it would be good if a vote for independence was held. As too the rest, there are many nations who do not meet those criteria but The ASD will offer its full support to Novicanistan in order to achieve these goals

To: all parties concerned
From: Novanicstan

It has come to our attention that with the death of our parlementry building and members of parlament that our own leader was responsable for the attacks.

In exchange for being made a territor with self rule we will rejoin Natzailey. We feel that it is in both our peoples intrests to clean up our enviornment and begin reconstruction of all that was lost in this war. Any money already payed will be given back by our government. We appolagize for this inconviance.
Thank you for your time and assistance.

To: All Parties Involved
From: Tsai Carnam of NCCN

We thank you dearly for your consideration, and to ensure that our interests are protected, we will move a few divisions within your territory.

We will also consider your debt paid in full, and will aide in the full restoration of the nation.

Such goals of restoration will include:
Private Military
Economic
Social
Political
Environmental

The NCCN is going to give equal treatment to Natzailey as to Novanicstan, no more or less.

The NCCN will also recognize that the Novanicstan is it's own district within Natzailey, and Natzailey will now be considered a nation of 10 districts/states/provinces, not 9. This will ensure a maximum level of self-government, and continue allowing us to intervene upon demand.

We thank all nations that have supported a peaceful resolution of this ordeal.

____________________________________________________________

Tsai Carnam lays back in his seat in the capital city of Natzailey, Nazanik. This may be his one window of opportunity to start securing all regions that once belonged to Natzailey.

He goes over to the phone and picks it up... hotline to the Sultenian Embassy.

"This is CL (Corporate Leader) Tsai Carnam. I request permission to send the VSC, along with 4 divisions of infantry, and 1 division of tanks. We require your support to make this 'legitimate'."

Tsai Carnam nods accordingly to their statements before walking back to his seat, stocks up again, exciting... but this is not what he wants right now.

The CL (Corporate Leader) of Natzailey has his eyes on the total expansion of Natzailey. Natzailey can only survive so long as there are enemies outside of the border... else another 100 years of civil war will break loose.

He was direly hoping for this to be a war of terrorism... but he is sure he will find some terrorists in Novanicstan if he looked hard enough.

Tybra;14023351']The Holy Empire of Tybra has heed to your words but will not send troops for your support. Instead we have seen this as proof of your own failure and inability for ruling therefor we will start with an immediate invasion and supression of your people and handing over this piece of land back to Natzailey. Any protesters against our actions will be shot without warning.

OOC: Totally a day late and a dollar short...

Tybra;14023351']The Holy Empire of Tybra has heed to your words but will not send troops for your support. Instead we have seen this as proof of your own failure and inability for ruling therefor we will start with an immediate invasion and supression of your people and handing over this piece of land back to Natzailey. Any protesters against our actions will be shot without warning.

OOC:its over. also you'd have to fight me for one.

One Week Later

NCCN International News Report

An image hovering over the dune seas in the northern regions of Novanicstan are shown, probably from a helicopter view. It looks like several thousand men are crossing the border armed.

The view switches to a ground view to show several men wearing extremely light clothing, probably in result of the unbearably hot temperature of Natzailey or the extreme clothing shortage. The uniforms generally consists of three colors, dark green, red, and blue, probably signifying ranks.

A reporter is runs in front of the camera on the side and begins, "As of a week ago, Novanicstan has permitted itself to become a territory of Natzailey under a few conditions. Tsai Carnam statement is that all the conditions are generally acceptable. With this, he has also declared that 5 divisions are to move into Novanicstan to protect their investments as Natzailey based corporations rebuild. Roughly sixty thousand Men are going into Novanicstan, along with several thousand tanks.

"Many speculate that this kind of force is not necessary to protect an investment, but the NCCN declares that it is a necessity to ensure that this quarter can stay on track. Do to this move, many people speculate that Natzailey will end up exercising their military strength regardless of the pacifistic behavior of Novanicstan, so many of the NCCN stocks have been purchased and have recently skyrocketed.

"It is also highly believed that the VSC is going to be aiding the Natzailey Army in securing the region, but we have yet to get an answer on it from corporate headquarters."

The troops continue walking across the desert while the sun falls, as most life in Natzailey is only comfortable at night time because of the heat during the day.

Whatever is going on... Natzailey seems to be looking for something in Novanicstan... but lord who knows what...