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As promised in the other thread.

wait why not war political invading star wars universe

wait why not war political invading star wars universe

Because most of the Trek powers are not aggresively expansionist or heavilly militarized to the extent of the Empire. Though the Borg are an obvious exception.

I suppose we could do this, if enough people vote other because they want this.

I voted invading trek, I just anted to know why that option wasnt there

Other: DS9 Wormhole reopens, Trek Nations explore, Wars Nations Conquer. (Optional battletech thrown in...)

There was a very nice site I found once dedicated to the whole Trek vs. War debate... Unfortunately, based off of evidence by the movies, Trek seriously gets its arse owned.

About the only thing they have are fabricators, teleporters, and ridiculously easy to modulate techology (Voyager is a prime example...). Then again, since Wars doesn't know about teleporter tech, would the Federation/other races be able to teleport anti-matter torpedoes through the Empire's forcefields? Might be interesting to see.

Anyway, voted Wars invading Trek.

One idea I had was to have a wormhole breifly open between both Galaxies. Before it shuts, an Imperial task force goes through, followed by a Rebel force. Due to instabillity in the wormhole, they end up one oposite sides of the Galaxy, and begin a race for control of the new Galaxy (Trek). This doesn't work so well however if both Galaxies are roughly comparable in technological capabillity. Also, I've been meaning to write it as a fan fiction.;)

So if we go with a political rp, how about this: several stable wormholes open between the two galaxies, basically disrupting the current political landscape and allowing factions in each galaxy a whole new galaxy to potentially conqure/explore. The Empire would likely be the main agressor on the Star Wars side, and the Borg would likely be the main agressor on the Star Trek side, but that kind of thing can be handled at the player's discresion.

If, however, we go for a character based story, then how about a Federation ship stuck in Imperial Space, or vice versa?

Oh, and now might be the time to start reserving factions. IC thread will go up once the poll's been up a few days.

Can i bring in some battletech* to even the sides? I really like battletech..


*=The RPG/Boardgame/Minature thing that they based the mechwarrior, mechcommander, and mechassault series off

There was a very nice site I found once dedicated to the whole Trek vs. War debate... Unfortunately, based off of evidence by the movies, Trek seriously gets its arse owned.

About the only thing they have are fabricators, teleporters, and ridiculously easy to modulate techology (Voyager is a prime example...). Then again, since Wars doesn't know about teleporter tech, would the Federation/other races be able to teleport anti-matter torpedoes through the Empire's forcefields? Might be interesting to see.

Anyway, voted Wars invading Trek.

Well if we go with a faction based rp I'm going to balance it by giving Trek ships equal power generation by size. On this scale(very roughly), a Galaxy Class is equal to 1, a Star Destroyer to about 10, a Borg Cube is worth several Star Destroyers, etc. So the shear size and number of Wars ships gives them an edge, but its close enough to make for some interesting fights. Also, certain Trek factions have strategic deterents, like those Sun Destroying torpedos from Star Trek: Gennerations. I figure laying down this rule at the start is the only way to keep this from degenerating into the nasty vs debates I've seen so often before.

Can i bring in some battletech* to even the sides? I really like battletech..


*=The RPG/Boardgame/Minature thing that they based the mechwarrior, mechcommander, and mechassault series off

Too obscure. The more Universes you add, the fewer people will be knowledgeable about all of them, and thus the fewer will be interested. Sorry, but I don't want to complicate this to the point it never gets off the ground.

Waaah.. DIBS ON...Eh...Nevermind

Well whatever it is, it does look very interesting... I can imagine it now...

Someone making a Valcun Jedi. x3

Well whatever it is, it does look very interesting... I can imagine it now...

Someone making a Valcun Jedi. x3

Vulcans already have some interesting telepathic abillities. And the diciplice their society encourages would make for very good Jedi.

Of course, their's a reason they supress emotion. A pissed off Vulcan Sith would be a terrifying sight.:eek2:

Vulcans already have some interesting telepathic abillities. And the diciplice their society encourages would make for very good Jedi.

Of course, their's a reason they supress emotion. A pissed off Vulcan Sith would be a terrifying sight.:eek2:

"Illogical Captain... I'm afraid you're going to need to die for that." ZAAAP.

"Illogical Captain... I'm afraid you're going to need to die for that." ZAAAP.

lol.

Did you see the Next Genneration episode about the ancient Vulcan that used your negative emotions to kill you? Wait, that would be the ultimate Sith killer, wouldn't it?

lol.

Did you see the Next Genneration episode about the ancient Vulcan that used your negative emotions to kill you? Wait, that would be the ultimate Sith killer, wouldn't it?

Don't think I saw that, by the time I got into Star Trek it was Voyagers show. My mom was a big fan of the original series though (Trekie to the extreme), so I can always rely on her for information...

But, speaking of my mother, I remember once she was trying to get me interested in a Star Trek RP she lead (text based, like this place). I finally came up with a species of aliens that has a two stage life cycle, the first a biological stage but eventually they evolve into an energy stage. Whole plot was the alien was rescued from his ship (being only a boy on an unknown vessel, with no other species on board). Might use him in a character RP (astrometrics in trainee). But as for a faction.. Dunno what I would use for that.

It seems the poll is going toward a political rp. I'll probably open an official sign up thread tomorrow, and an IC thread tomorrow or the day after.

*Shrugs* I'll give it a ponder until then... There's a lot of information I've gained from browsing both TV shows and movies, so I might create some weird off-shoot faction that only most most obscure fan would know (Such as creating a second Borg race with individuality since Who is at the lead. Or perhaps...)

...Can I use the Earth Empire from the alternate universe from Enterprise? :3 I only saw the first two shows of that alt-verse though, not sure how it ended...

*Shrugs* I'll give it a ponder until then... There's a lot of information I've gained from browsing both TV shows and movies, so I might create some weird off-shoot faction that only most most obscure fan would know (Such as creating a second Borg race with individuality since Who is at the lead. Or perhaps...)

...Can I use the Earth Empire from the alternate universe from Enterprise? :3 I only saw the first two shows of that alt-verse though, not sure how it ended...

The Terran Empire? Sure, but since this is going to be set in the traditional Trek Universe, your going to need to explain how the Terran Empire ended up in a Universe other than their own. If you can do that, sure, go ahead.

The Terran Empire? Sure, but since this is going to be set in the traditional Trek Universe, your going to need to explain how the Terran Empire ended up in a Universe other than their own. If you can do that, sure, go ahead.

There is the fact that there was an unstable wormhole/warp disturbance that the Defiant used to get there. Perhaps, since this is (whatever tech line) their technology has improved to the point that they could stabilize the wormhole. Would be interesting to see more bad ass versions of the Federation ships. :3

I kinda want to play as the Borg ^^ the whole "Resistance is Futile" sounds cool, im assuming that the borg will only receive a certain number of Cubes?

Why not say that the Terran Empire's attempt to get in to the 'regular' universe is what opens up the Trek universe to the Star Wars universe?

that sounds good ^^

lol.

Did you see the Next Genneration episode about the ancient Vulcan that used your negative emotions to kill you? Wait, that would be the ultimate Sith killer, wouldn't it?

There's actually a fan fic out there where the Empire tries to obtain the artifact you're talking about to make their Dark Jedi unstoppable.

A couple of other ideas.

If you go for the DS9 wormhole idea then why not say that its really unpredictable and might open up into the gamma quadrant or the Wars universe. Then if anyone wants to play dominion they still can.

It would also be quite cool if as well as having grand scale sides participants that wanted a more cosey Rp could control just one or two ships or some such, attached to the players that control their faction; they'd make good plot devices.

Finally if there does need to be more NS stuff why not include the nations involved in the Rp as the Star-Trek universe equivelant of the society. I.E Sarrowquand has grown up into one of those nice garden paradise planets that tend to join the federation. If you're just controling a ship some of your crew could be from there or something, and they'd make excelent starting grounds for the war to be based around.

(sorry for the spelling I might clear this post up for clarity after a nice nap)

Guys ... even if Star Wars universe invaded the Star Trek Universe and somehow defeated all the people of trhe Alpha Quad ( WHICH i DOUBT VERY MUCH THEY COULD DO ) how are they going to defeat the Borg and The Q?

very good point, they cant lol

Wait a sec, I thought there was just a moderator decision that if the RP has literally nothing to do with NS it wasn't allowed.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=564515

You know, I wonder... Since it's shown that Jedi's can keep their powers while becommng cyborgs (Darth Vader *Cough*), what about a Borg Jedi...

No matter how long this debate gets, the people with girlfriends will always win.

Incorrect Lestung, NS only disallows political and character RP's as copies of RL earth. Example? Falkasia's 40k RP. Not that you can't carbon copy the empire, just that you have to be a nation exactly the same as the empire in every way shape and form.

No matter how long this debate gets, the people with girlfriends with always win.

If you like that kind of thing.

Incorrect Lestung, NS only disallows political and character RP's as copies of RL earth. Example? Falkasia's 40k RP. Not that you can't carbon copy the empire, just that you have to be a nation exactly the same as the empire in every way shape and form.

Yeah, but read this ruling by moderators about the Heroes RP

here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13968672&postcount=9)

Guys ... even if Star Wars universe invaded the Star Trek Universe and somehow defeated all the people of trhe Alpha Quad ( WHICH i DOUBT VERY MUCH THEY COULD DO ) how are they going to defeat the Borg and The Q?

Q seems more interested in toying with humanity than actively alleying with one side. He did squat against the Borg. I think we have to assume Q stays out if this is going to be interesting at all(He does probably outclass any Sith in history by a wide margin, so its hardly fair if he helps the Feds.) Its a matter of balancing for an interesting rp.

I kinda want to play as the Borg ^^ the whole "Resistance is Futile" sounds cool, im assuming that the borg will only receive a certain number of Cubes?

Currently we're going with making the two Galaxies ships equaly powerful according to size. So the full Borg fleet would be a good match for the Empire. There both the heavy weights in their own galaxy.

Sign up thread is up. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=564788

IC thread may go up tonight, should be up within twenty four hours.

Incorrect Lestung, NS only disallows political and character RP's as copies of RL earth. Example? Falkasia's 40k RP. Not that you can't carbon copy the empire, just that you have to be a nation exactly the same as the empire in every way shape and form.

Just to make sure you guys don't miss my post in ye other thread:

To quote Scolopendra in the "Concerning Alternate History Threads" (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12716803&postcount=84)

Okay, opening post edited. It's not a new rule, it's an enforcement of "Nationstates postings should be Nationstates related" common-sense rule that's been around forever but (unfortunately) enforced sporadically. The 'more work' issue is easily countered by making it common knowledge for self-enforcement.

These are the Nationstates roleplay forums. If it doesn't have to do with Nationstates nations, you probably shouldn't bother and should go elsewhere. As already mentioned, General's existence is not germane to this discussion. That being said, recruiting your buddies from here to 'hey I got these nifty offsite forums' is fine.

Most of the 40K RPs tend to be based around NS nations with a dash of Chaos/IoM/Tau/Tyranid/etc in them, rather than the actual 40K universe itself.

I'm not saying this is an inherently bad idea, but it'd probably be easier (and you wouldn't risk a threadlock in the middle of a healthy RP) to take it to an offsite forum, rather than taking your chances here.

Q seems more interested in toying with humanity than actively alleying with one side. He did squat against the Borg. I think we have to assume Q stays out if this is going to be interesting at all(He does probably outclass any Sith in history by a wide margin, so its hardly fair if he helps the Feds.) Its a matter of balancing for an interesting rp.


Although I don't agree with your opinion about the Q, you can't really believe that the borg would not attack people from the SW Universe do you?

Beyond that I don't believe that SW characters and ships can conquer the Alpha Quad

Currently we're going with making the two Galaxies ships equaly powerful according to size. So the full Borg fleet would be a good match for the Empire. There both the heavy weights in their own galaxy.


Remember the Federation has defeated the Borg a number of times already. So counting them out would not be the smartest thing to do.

Although I don't agree with your opinion about the Q, you can't really believe that the borg would not attack people from the SW Universe do you?

Of course they would. I was merely arguing that Q would not, using his failiure to intervene against the Borg as an example of his past non-interference in military conflicts.

As for the Borg, yes, they would attack everything in sight.

Beyond that I don't believe that SW characters and ships can conquer the Alpha Quad

Which is not the point of this thread. I've already explained how I'm balancing this. If you don't like the idea, but are still posting in this thread, why?

Unless these star wars/star trek things are related to your nations, it will not work. Your IC sign-up thread was deleted for that very reason.

Bah, sighn up thread deleted. Guess it was a violation of rules, though its clearly a rule which is sporadically enforced at best, since I have been in multiple rps on these forums that violate it without incident.

I'm still doing this. I just need to find a different forum to do it on(which is a pain in the ass I don't need when I'm just starting classes). When I do, I'll telegram any one who's still interested and let them know.

Unless these star wars/star trek things are related to your nations, it will not work. Your IC sign-up thread was deleted for that very reason.

yes, i noticed, as i just posted.:rolleyes: I repeat, I am going to set this up on a different forum and tellegram anyone in this thread who's still interested.

Invisionfree is always a good place to be. You can be the admin of your own forum.

Invisionfree is always a good place to be. You can be the admin of your own forum.

Thanks for the information. I will check that out just as soon as I have a computer and e-mail adress. I'm moving right now and so I have no computer, just internet cafes and such.

Q seems more interested in toying with humanity than actively alleying with one side. He did squat against the Borg. I think we have to assume Q stays out if this is going to be interesting at all(He does probably outclass any Sith in history by a wide margin, so its hardly fair if he helps the Feds.) Its a matter of balancing for an interesting rp.


Actually he was the one that introduced the Enterprise D to the Borg

Actually he was the one that introduced the Enterprise D to the Borg

True. But its not like he wiped out the borg for the federation. so why would he do any diferently if the empire invaded. Q has never chosen a side in the wars of lesser beings. Hence, he will likely not participate in a vs senario, meaning that trek cannot say "we win because of Q." At any rate, the rp is closed down by the mods and this is not a subject to be argued in the International Incidents forum. If you want to argue weather Q would help the Feds, why not open a thread in General forums?