NationStates Jolt Archive


300 Interest Thread (OOC)

Ascelonia
01-09-2008, 00:04
Considering how my recent RPing have been nearly complete failures. I was planning to give it another shot. I was wondering if anyone was interested in a modern "300" only having more like 5000 soldiers. We'll work out the numbers here and have sign ups. If you're signing up, you are joining the defense. If you join the offense, prepare to be g-modded the f*** out of.

Storyline:

Basically, some 10 billion man nation (Endikar Empire) decides to invade Ascelonia and a few other countries. Ascelonia, is fortunately far away, but a protectorate sits right next to the huge nation. This is the story of peacekeeping troops within that country guarding the protectorate.

Sign-Ups:
Nation Name:
Side:
Forces Sent: (this will be number of men participating not everything)
Commander:
Name of Unit (optional):

Rules:
1. I will mod Ascelonian, Endikar Empire, and Kritaka (protectorate state).
2. If you're on the attacking side, you will be god-modded.

Participants
Ascelonia (Tyland Spencer- 3,000 defending infantry)
The Soviet System (Ernesto Cheark- 8,000 defending infantry)
Endikar Empire (Aland Hexcor- 1,200,000 infantry)
Kritaka (Aleksander Yakov- 12,500 infantry)
Void Templar (Julianus Marvolo Karai 'Wyla'- 4,000 Kytaf Infantry)
Greal (Franks Washington- 5,000 infantry)
The Soviet System
01-09-2008, 00:07
Nation Name: The Soviet System
Side: Defenders
Forces Sent: 8,000 infantry
Commander: Ernesto Cheark
Ascelonia
01-09-2008, 00:15
Accepted.
Ascelonia
01-09-2008, 00:23
Nation Name: Ascelonia
Side: Defenders
Forces Sent: 3,000 infatry
Commander: Colonel Tyland Spencer

Nation Name: Endikar Empire
Side: Attackers
Forces Sent: 1,200,000 infantry
Commander: Magistrate Aland Hexcor

Nation Name: Kritaka
Side: Defenders
Forces Sent: 12,500 infantry
Commander: Major General Aleksander Yakov
Void Templar
01-09-2008, 00:24
Sign-Ups:
Nation Name: Void Templar
Side: Attacking
Forces Sent: 4000 Kytaf infantry
Commander: General Abbadon Julianus Marvolo Karai 'Wyla' (Hero)
With the Kytaf, it wouldn't even be godmoding. Their just. That. Awesome. :tongue:
The Soviet System
01-09-2008, 00:25
Hey look at that Void against the System, should make a good RP experiance lol
Void Templar
01-09-2008, 00:28
Hey look at that Void against the System, should make a good RP experiance lol

Heh heh. Let's say this is before Irena/Ion were executed. Lets my men hate you more.
Ascelonia
01-09-2008, 00:32
Heh heh. Let's say this is before Irena/Ion were executed. Lets my men hate you more.

Just warning you. You're gonna get godmodded.

oh yeah... the 1,200,000 soldiers sent by the Endikar Empire are just expeditionary forces.
Stoklomolvi
01-09-2008, 00:35
A poor excuse to gain a victory. With bullets, there is no "300". I was originally going to think about joining to show you want manpower can do to 300 men, but with your godmodding I decided not to.

Let's say you have 300 men with M16A2s or M4s, and I have 5,600 men with AK47s and heavy artillery as "archers". You would be dead within the initial artillery barrage, not to mention that one wave of men would kill you off.
Greal
01-09-2008, 00:36
Sign-Ups:
Nation Name: Greal
Side: Defenders
Forces Sent: 5,000
Commander: Franks Washington
Ascelonia
01-09-2008, 00:41
A poor excuse to gain a victory. With bullets, there is no "300". I was originally going to think about joining to show you want manpower can do to 300 men, but with your godmodding I decided not to.

Let's say you have 300 men with M16A2s or M4s, and I have 5,600 men with AK47s and heavy artillery as "archers". You would be dead within the initial artillery barrage, not to mention that one wave of men would kill you off.

Look. They're gonna lose in the end, but they're gonna take down plenty of others along with them.

I should've mentioned the attacking forces are a lot less advanced. Artillery will be up against Tactical High Energy Lasers.


EDIT: besides, you're not gonna send clusterfuck in with guns blazing because that WILL end up like 300. You're gonna sustain lots of casualties.

The 300 stuff will be the opening phase of the war. I will only godmod the 300 stuff.

The Endikar Empire utilizes 1940s weapons.
Stoklomolvi
01-09-2008, 00:51
All right then. That's just plain bullshit. PMT vs PT stuff? What? And this 10 billion man nation fields only 1.2 million?
Void Templar
01-09-2008, 00:54
All right then. That's just plain bullshit. PMT vs PT stuff? What? And this 10 billion man nation fields only 1.2 million?

It's his RP, he's RP'ing both of the main sides. What's the problem?
Ascelonia
01-09-2008, 00:57
All right then. That's just plain bullshit. PMT vs PT stuff? What? And this 10 billion man nation fields only 1.2 million?

That's expeditionary forces.
The Soviet System
01-09-2008, 00:57
good point Void
Prazinia
01-09-2008, 00:58
The "300" of modern era were the Finnish soldiers during the Winter War.

And tactical numerical superiority is everything. Holding a static line of defense at all costs is quite idiotic for most situations in modern combat. This article by Macabees is a good example of how to succeed in asymmetric warfare:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=398617

But if all you really want is "This is Sparta!" with guns... then nevermind.
Ascelonia
01-09-2008, 01:00
The "300" of modern era were the Finnish soldiers during the Winter War.

And tactical numerical superiority is everything. Holding a static line of defense at all costs is quite idiotic for most situations in modern combat. This article by Macabees is a good example of how to succeed in asymmetric warfare:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=398617

But if all you really want is "This is Sparta!" with guns... then nevermind.


Yeah... that's not really the plan. The 300 will be all about a huge battle for the expeditionary forces of the Endikar Empire. They will eventually slaughter all of the defenders, but at a high price.
The Soviet System
01-09-2008, 01:05
Its all possible, the biggest army in modern times can be taken out by I better trained yet smaller one
Ascelonia
01-09-2008, 01:20
Its all possible, the biggest army in modern times can be taken out by I better trained yet smaller one

Thank you. The US was outnumbered by the Iraqi army.
The Soviet System
01-09-2008, 01:25
Well I was thinking more like Russia and China if they ever attacked the US
Void Templar
01-09-2008, 01:27
Well I was thinking more like Russia and China if they ever attacked the US

To be honest, Russia and China are quite well trained. Perhaps not as well as the American forces, but their sheer numbers plus their good training would probably be at least a match for American.
The Soviet System
01-09-2008, 01:28
Yeah I know, I love Russia, so big and so awesome, but I guess that to would be a bad example, idk ok, but training beats numbers any day lol
Ascelonia
01-09-2008, 04:34
Void Templar can have modern technology, but Endikar Empire will be very outdated like Persians versus Spartans.

Wicker shields versus bronze shields.
Koharia
01-09-2008, 06:44
I would just like to put in that I could guaruntee that Ruussia could win in a fight between them and the U.S. Its simple. If you get straight down to it, we lost in Vietnam because of the Veit-Kong hit-and-run tactics. I bet they could roll us over with their Spetnaz units because they could use hit-and-run.

Even with a straight-up gun battle between the M-16 and th AK-47, the AK-47 would win. It has a larger bullet and is more reliable. I am an American and I love what this country stands for, but I just don't think that we could hold our own against overwhelming forces.

P.S. What about the Athenian Navy. They had a hand in the 300 squad by blocking off the route to flank the Greeks?
Tolvan
01-09-2008, 07:04
I would just like to put in that I could guaruntee that Ruussia could win in a fight between them and the U.S. Its simple. If you get straight down to it, we lost in Vietnam because of the Veit-Kong hit-and-run tactics. I bet they could roll us over with their Spetnaz units because they could use hit-and-run.

Even with a straight-up gun battle between the M-16 and th AK-47, the AK-47 would win. It has a larger bullet and is more reliable. I am an American and I love what this country stands for, but I just don't think that we could hold our own against overwhelming forces.

P.S. What about the Athenian Navy. They had a hand in the 300 squad by blocking off the route to flank the Greeks?

I'm not gonna spam this thread with a detailed rebuttal but that post is wrong on so many levels.
Koharia
01-09-2008, 07:07
Then telegram me with it because i would really like to know why it is wrong?
Tolvan
01-09-2008, 07:35
Then telegram me with it because i would really like to know why it is wrong?

This (http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/land-forces/5433-us-army-vs-russian-army.html) will be enough.
Taevri
01-09-2008, 08:41
Nation Name: The United Republic of Taevri
Side: Defending
Forces Sent: 11,000
Commander: Maj. Gen. Kuomue Iouren
Name of Unit (Opt.): 2nd Division [Task Force Bravo]