NationStates Jolt Archive

Alright, all non-in character posts WILL go in here so as to not clutter up the other thread. It'll make everyone, especially me, happier.

babies bombs,right when that guy gets put in front of a wall ,i want payperview

oh Wanderjar hows things?

To your comment that I was trolling I talked to Char in another thread about how and why he should work on his RPing. You may see it as trolling but Char is not a very good RPer when it comes to war at the moment. Hopefully he'll research it a bit and take my advice. If you want to let anyone hop on the bandwagon though by all means let your big invasion suffer from it.

To your comment that I was trolling I talked to Char in another thread about how and why he should work on his RPing. You may see it as trolling but Char is not a very good RPer when it comes to war at the moment. Hopefully he'll research it a bit and take my advice. If you want to let anyone hop on the bandwagon though by all means let your big invasion suffer from it.

I said you were trolling because of your comment: "OOC: Please do not say Char is getting involved. -.-"

There are plenty of better ways to respond to this, such as private messaging stating: "I believe you would be better suited to refrain from this RP until such a time as you have improved your skills in writing and conducting warfare." Tells the point, yet is not in the least bit derogatory or hostile. I apologise if I offended you, I was trying to convey the message that being rude is not necessary, and thats how it appeared to me. Also I'm just under a lot of stress applying for the Naval Academy and US Military Academy...making me admittedly short tempered.


@Imperial Isa: Hey old buddy! Things are good here. How've you been?

keeping busy ,mainly posting and playing Mass Effect when not at work

The whole thing about Charzak...

Well, Charzak had been abusing Fascists in his nation, and his government was losing control in the GWO's eyes. So I began a deployment, but the thread pretty much died and I pulled my troops back (Though not posted ICly.)

And I understand why Roma V said what he did. Charzak claims to have a force of self-aware AI systems known as the SPARTAN project. He also claims they carry multiple HMGs per unit.

i;ll work with my journalists, see what happens from there...

also, i think that on the first post on this thread, a link to the IC thread should be put in the first post in this thread and vice versa

If I knew I would get so many responses, I’d do some other news organizations. Later, I might do some organizations with more bias, like a conservative news org. I’ll hope to vary it up a bit.

Mt Id, where are your troops/command, so my people can go to them.

The city's shore defense weaponry began searching for the enemy fleet, and when it found it, almost all of the long-range weapons systems were to be utilized. Cruise missiles and shells of various sizes filled with Cesium (A very small amount creates a massive explosion when it reacts with water) were hurled at the enemy fleet. Occasionally, a missile or shell would be tipped with Depleted Uranium so that it could easily penetrate the ship, release the Cesium, and create a massive interior explosion once water was added...and water wouldn't be hard to get on a ship. Then, the initial explosion would either blow the innards out on smaller ships, or cause a chain reaction on larger ships.

Is this realistic or even possible?

Cesium weapons. There are just so many variables, and depleated uranium, that doesn't seem cheap. And when you try to use that, have you heard of Gulf War Syndrome?

Also, can New Britonia take a role in the... reconstruction of the GWO later?

Is this realistic or even possible?

Cesium weapons. There are just so many variables, and depleated uranium, that doesn't seem cheap. And when you try to use that, have you heard of Gulf War Syndrome?

Cesium weaponry is actually less complicated than most naval weapons IMO. The carrier simply expels the element (which is ground into a powder before being put in the object) over the target, and when the water gets to it, it causes a massive explosion.

Depleted uranium is used in M1A2 Abrams tanks, A-10 Thunderbolt rounds, and I believe certain sabot tank shells. If the United States can afford to put it in all their tanks and tip a lot of bullets with them, the GWO most certainly can as well.

As for Gulf War syndrome; Depleted Uranium is only dangerous when the particles are floating around. Plus, it's unconfirmed if Depleted Uranium is the cause of GWS. If it is, then it mainly will effect the enemy.

Not only that, but with all my troops issued with GIPUs (Ballistic/NBC protective undersuits) and gas masks, I think they're relatively safe.

For reconstruction in GWO; You can, but trust me, it probably won't happen cleanly. You'll still have most of the military running a rebellion with most of the population against foreign rule.

Cesium is a liquid at room temperature. I mean it's so reactive that, if the athmosphere of a room is just too humid...

Cesium is a liquid at room temperature. I mean it's so reactive that, if the athmosphere of a room is just too humid...

But it doesn't get humid inside of a missile or shell.

And my apologies for the mix up on Cesium's state of matter. Even if it's a liquid, it still can be used.

What about manufacturing... I mean there's a reason that no one in IRL tried this.

What about manufacturing... I mean there's a reason that no one in IRL tried this.

The main reason people haven't tried this in RL is probably because ship-to-ship warfare went out after WWII, and the weapons of today are just fine for whatever use they may serve. In addition, getting the element is probably the hardest thing.

The way Cesium munition making goes is this:

1: The form of delivery is made (Shell/Missile)
2: The Shell or Missile goes further down the assemblyline, where it enters an armored "furnace".
3: Cesium is injected from an armored box of sorts that is monitored via computers and whatnot.

Each armored box is premeasured to fill one shell or missile, depending on the plant. Once one injects its load, it is rotated as a new method of delivery enters the armored injection "furnace". The whole process is done with computer-guided temperature and humidity control, and if an explosion happens, it halts all processes while maintenance personnel fix what's happening. Ideally, the armor put on the boxes should prevent a chain reaction.

Okay. I need to actually sleep soon. I am guessing that you have places where cesium can be refined...

Seriously, just ranting here. In 2008 (or how abour everything post 1992... with elements beginning as far as history goes), it is all assymetric warfare with guerilla tactics, which I see very little of. I dunno... it's just different on NationStates then.

Yes, but I intend to give off such an insane civilian-military cooperative resistance that the defenders of Stalingrad will rise from their graves and masturbate.

Just had to say that.

Yes, but I intend to give off such an insane civilian-military cooperative resistance that the defenders of Stalingrad will rise from their graves and masturbate.

Just had to say that.

I am going to have to sig that... tomorrow. When I have energy.

I am planning on doing some Charlie Wilson funding to rebuild, work with embassies, etc. Also, for game purposes, can I say that I have an embassy with you?

With NB being a Commonwealth, I'm not neutral anymore, but I'm in that... "I got too little time for intense RP'ing" so I cannot be active in actual fighting per se... but I will try to do my best to be active here though.

Ok, I guess.




Furiously.

Furiously?

Wow, I never knew a RL fascist... does the Klan count as fascist... no they're just racist...

Furiously?

Wow, I never knew a RL fascist... does the Klan count as fascist... no they're just racist...

Nope, Klan isn't fascist. The Skinheads are technically fascists, but they're more about following Hitler than the ideals of Fascism.

I was adding on to my "Stalingrad Masturbators" post.

The main reason people haven't tried this in RL is probably because ship-to-ship warfare went out after WWII, and the weapons of today are just fine for whatever use they may serve. In addition, getting the element is probably the hardest thing.

The way Cesium munition making goes is this:

1: The form of delivery is made (Shell/Missile)
2: The Shell or Missile goes further down the assemblyline, where it enters an armored "furnace".
3: Cesium is injected from an armored box of sorts that is monitored via computers and whatnot.

Each armored box is premeasured to fill one shell or missile, depending on the plant. Once one injects its load, it is rotated as a new method of delivery enters the armored injection "furnace". The whole process is done with computer-guided temperature and humidity control, and if an explosion happens, it halts all processes while maintenance personnel fix what's happening. Ideally, the armor put on the boxes should prevent a chain reaction.

OOC: Actually, I'm guessing the reason nobody uses Cesium IRL, is because Cesium costs around $454/gram (according to Google Shopping).

OOC: Actually, I'm guessing the reason nobody uses Cesium IRL, is because Cesium costs around $454/gram (according to Google Shopping).

or may they not find any military use or if they did what you said could be why they not using it

I said you were trolling because of your comment: "OOC: Please do not say Char is getting involved. -.-"

There are plenty of better ways to respond to this, such as private messaging stating: "I believe you would be better suited to refrain from this RP until such a time as you have improved your skills in writing and conducting warfare." Tells the point, yet is not in the least bit derogatory or hostile. I apologise if I offended you, I was trying to convey the message that being rude is not necessary, and thats how it appeared to me. Also I'm just under a lot of stress applying for the Naval Academy and US Military Academy...making me admittedly short tempered.

I just wanted everyone to know that letting Char join wasn't very smart and I didn't consider nor would I probably want to telegramming everyone about my objection. Which would've worked I suppose but it seemed more effective to state it out in the thread than in private messages. You didn't offend me I just wanted to clarify I wasn't trying to troll and if I did that was my fault and I apologize for that.

Also, I hope you do well at the Naval Academy. Best of luck mate.

If I knew I would get so many responses, I’d do some other news organizations. Later, I might do some organizations with more bias, like a conservative news org. I’ll hope to vary it up a bit.

Mt Id, where are your troops/command, so my people can go to them.

Actually, my forces have been rerouted to attack Ralkovia in a different thread. Its kind of interesting, really. I thought it was a joke at first, but Ralkovia is claiming to be a highly advanced force (PMT i guess) and is trying to fight off the world...or a little bit of it. lol. Its http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=564168

Actually, my forces have been rerouted to attack Ralkovia in a different thread. Its kind of interesting, really. I thought it was a joke at first, but Ralkovia is claiming to be a highly advanced force (PMT i guess) and is trying to fight off the world...or a little bit of it. lol. Its http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=564168

just reading about those tanks it look like it be,luckly poeple in this thread know better

just reading about those tanks it look like it be,luckly poeple in this thread know better

like it be what?

@New Brittonia: You'll be assigned to Battle Company (Captain Trenton O-3...instead of Alpha, Bravo, Charlie my units go Attack, Battle, Claymore, etc), 3rd Battalion (3rd/2nd-Lieutenant Colonel Smith O-5), 2nd Regimental Combat Team (2nd/1st-RCT-2- Colonel Warden O-6), 1st Marine Assault Division (1 MAD-Major General Moore). And as for reconstruction, absolutely. I have no problem with that at all.

@Roma V: Thanks bud :D

OOC: Actually, I'm guessing the reason nobody uses Cesium IRL, is because Cesium costs around $454/gram (according to Google Shopping).

You don't need an OOC marking for an OOC thread.

That is my point as to why it's not used in RL much; it's hard to get. They use it for a lot of other reasons in RL, such as cancer treatment and reducing the radar signatures of exhaust plumes in military aircraft. It's also an important part of the atomic clock.

I do believe that despite the cost of it, the GWO can afford it.

And I understand why Roma V said what he did. Charzak claims to have a force of self-aware AI systems known as the SPARTAN project. He also claims they carry multiple HMGs per unit.
That sounds PMT to FT to me.

ok...ralkovia has decided he dosn't want to participate in this fight anymore. Now what do I do?

That sounds PMT to FT to me.

Even in FT, such a device would be useless. Putting 10 HMGs onto a mobile robot would make it slow, plus, the ammunition would be spent in a heartbeat. The only way I can see 10 HMGs working is if the robot has some sort of far FT-tech plasma/laser technology, which would be useless because that sort of technology would allow a continuous stream of laser light.

Using something in modern day tech would make it RPG-7 fodder. An infantryman could probably walk up to it and knock it over to take it out.

The only automated warfare technology GWO uses is Metal Storm Redback systems and motion-sensor turrets used primarily in Beyond Maximum Secure Zones (AKA The Spire's Top-Secret Basement). We also have RC-driven robots like the United States SWORDS system.

Wanderjar, I guess my journalists will go to your capital to meet with your military...

Wanderjar, I guess my journalists will go to your capital to meet with your military...

No they'll land on one of the Assault Carriers in NB's fleet. Thats where the Marines are situated (I had them position on Northern Baltic's ships for efficiency...originally I'd intended for the invasion to have already started) Just basically assume its the correct one and I'll have one of my Liasions take you to Battle Company. I'm working on it, don't worry I didn't forget you ;)

Sigh. I really feel I must point this out.

TNT releases 4200 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent) joules of energy per gram exploded.

Caesium releases 203kJ (http://www.chemguide.co.uk/inorganic/group1/reacth2o.html) per mole (133 grams) reacted with water. This equates to about 1530 joules per gram.

Therefore, despite my extremely roughly done calculations, it should be clear that TNT is far more powerful than caesium. Bear in mind that it isn't even a military explosive, which are several times more powerful than TNT.

To create a bomb with a modest 1 ton TNT yield would require something like 20700 moles of caesium, or 2700 kilograms. According to GM's figure, you have thus managed to spend 1.2 billion dollars on a single bunker-buster. Impressive, even for NS.

Lols. Ceasuim sucks. lol

That's odd, I witnessed in person Cesium coming in contact with water. With only a very small amount, we managed to create perhaps the biggest explosion I had seen in my life (Other than this one time I was camping out near El Centro in California, I witnessed a non-nuclear mushroom cloud).

Kay then.

It's caesium. Trinitrotoluene has been a traditional explosive...what about nitroglycerine? Sure, it's extremely volatile, but it's also very explosive, right?

You can spell it either way. Firefox also corrects me when I type Caesium instead of Cesium.

Anyways, I'll acknowledge that Cesium is an inferior chemical for Naval use. The main idea behind it was that there would be a lot of delayed explosions and whatnot on top of the generally large initial explosion.

About the spelling, he spelled it "ceasuim". Which is incorrect by any spelling.

You should have went with nitroglycerine...

No they'll land on one of the Assault Carriers in NB's fleet. Thats where the Marines are situated (I had them position on Northern Baltic's ships for efficiency...originally I'd intended for the invasion to have already started) Just basically assume its the correct one and I'll have one of my Liasions take you to Battle Company. I'm working on it, don't worry I didn't forget you ;)

I'm on a northern Baltic ship... I got two for the price of one then... I only need one team then...

Leocardia, you said you launched Shtil missiles at my planes.

The Shtil is a converted ballistic missile used to put satellites into space. I don't think you'd be able to do much by launching that at my planes.

It's still a missile. I mean, a freaking bird stuck in an aircraft engine can blow it up; imagine a huge missile being launched at you. Even a rock at high enough speeds can destroy an aircraft.

A last-ditch defence system could even be just a big wall that launches metal scraps into the air where enemy planes would hit them.

It's still a missile. I mean, a freaking bird stuck in an aircraft engine can blow it up; imagine a huge missile being launched at you. Even a rock at high enough speeds can destroy an aircraft.

A last-ditch defence system could even be just a big wall that launches metal scraps into the air where enemy planes would hit them.

Nah, I was using the Shtil missile from the SA-N-12 Grizzly, still in use, but in limited numbers.

Ah, so not the Shtil', but the Shtil.

I honestly plan on like 15 years of colonization then eventual liberation. Of course it would be a vote and they can stay with the Articles of Colonization.

I'm only assaulting the colony of Uranium, which I've been told is mostly New York and New England, but New York City is just one big ruined urban wasteland used for training. So I'll use the actual maps for that area to make things simple. :3

Sorry for my disappearance, I was on a sort of "vacation".

Hey GWO.
Just some questions about your post.
I'll talk to you about them on MSN when you get a chance.