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Civil War in Arcicana: OOC/Interest Thread

Alliance Star
27-08-2008, 14:44
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Civil War in Arcicana: OOC/Interest Thread

This thread serves the purpose of many topics:


Joining the Roleplay
Rules of the Roleplay
Out-of-Character Chatter
Questions about the Roleplay


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Table of Contents

-Backstory
-Numbers!
-Overall News
-International Response
-Rules of the Roleplay
-Joining the Roleplay

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The Imperial Nation of Arcicana
Link to related Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namibia)

OoC Note: The Nation of Namibia will be used for the sake of the Roleplay, to keep things simple. Geography, Map, Population, Cites/Villages and Points of Interest will remain the same, to keep things simple, whereas for the rest will be created as we go along.

First and foremost, a brief backstory of the conflict in question.

A new civil war began in 2005 when a rebel group backed by the government of neighboring Kwesi, the Arcicanas United for Liberation (UOL), emerged in northern Arcicana. Opponents of Enu Munashe moved their center of operations to Rundu province, in the north near the Kwesi border.

By the spring of 2006 the insurgents were posing a major threat to the Munashe government. Arcicana was now engaged in a complex conflict internally with multiple parties, and a majority of the populace. By the beginning of 2007, the latest addition to the lexicon of Arcicanan guerrilla outfits, while rival nations were supporting various opposition factions throughout the country.

In early 2008, a second rebel group, the People's Movement in Arcicana (PMA), emerged in the south, and by the summer of 2003, Munashe's government controlled only a third of the country. Despite some setbacks, by mid-2008 UOL controlled the northern third of the country and was threatening the capital. The capital Windhoek was besieged by UOL, and that group's shelling of the city resulted in the deaths of many civilians. Thousands of people were displaced from their homes as a result of the conflict.

Yet another group, the Madorvian-backed Free Republic of Arcicana Movement (FROAM), held a block of territory in the south. By the beginning of August, after a two-month siege, UOL had overrun parts of Windhoek. News of Genocide began in early 2008, as reports of over 280,000 civilians being brutalized, raped, and executed, and continuing abuses by all parties, including that of the Government. With the lack of International Reaction to the situation, the mixed military parties has continued in their actions.

Overall Numbers in the Conflict in Arcicana

Military of Enu Munashe

-63,000 Personnel

-2 T-72s
-2 BMP-2s
-100 Mixed Willys MB & UAZ-469s
-300 9K32 Strela-2s
-45,000 AK-47s
-4,200 Mixed Sidearms
-3,200 RPG-7s

United for Liberation Militia

-16,700 Personnel

-132 Mixed Light Trucks used as "Technicals" (I.E. Mounting a Machinegun in the bed of the truck)
-14,300 AK-47s
-2,400 Mixed SKS variants
-230 RPG-7s

People's Movement in Arcicana Militia

-15,400 Personnel

-112 Mixed Light Trucks used as "Technicals" (I.E. Mounting a Machinegun in the bed of the truck)
-1,300 AK-47s
-14,400 Mixed SKS variants
-110 RPG-7s

Free Republic of Arcicana Movement Militia

-18,100 Personnel

-1 BMP-1
-176 Mixed Light Trucks used as "Technicals" (I.E. Mounting a Machinegun in the bed of the truck)
-21,660 AK-47s
-4,400 Mixed SKS variants
-1,200 RPG-7s



Maps

Territory Key:
Blue (Restoration Forces)
Dark Green (Enu Munashe's Forces)
Lime/Light Green (Free Republic of Arcicana Movement Forces)
Red (United for Liberation Militia)
Yellow (People's Movement in Arcicana Militia)

Maps:
Overall Map: [Link (http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a350/SWATguy528/?action=view&current=Namibia_19875.jpg)]
Capital Map: [Link (http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a350/SWATguy528/?action=view&current=windhoek.jpg)]

August 31st, Territory Map: [Link (http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a350/SWATguy528/?action=view&current=August31holdings.jpg)]
August 31st, Capital Map: [Link (http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a350/SWATguy528/?action=view&current=windhoekaugust31.jpg)]

News

August 31st, 2008

Territorial Holdings of the Day: [Link (http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a350/SWATguy528/?action=view&current=August31holdings.jpg)]

- The Alliance Star Confederation, officially, condemns the actions, and deploys military forces to the region to stabilize and restore the nation and government.

- The Empire of the Wolf, in mutual agreement, deploys military forces jointly with the Alliance Star Confederation to restore order.

- The Free Republic of Chernobl, in cooperation with the Alliance Star Confederation, with their first contact with the Alliance Star Confederation, jointly deploy forces to assist in the restoration effort.

- The Commonwealth New Brittonia has also joined the Alliance Star Confederation and the Restoration forces, with a small deployment. New Birttonia plans to augment those forces, within a few days.

September 3rd, 2008

Territorial Holdings of the Day: [Link (http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a350/SWATguy528/?action=view&current=August31holdings.jpg)]

-The Holy Imperium of Angenteria annouces action in joint with the Restoration Forces, and has deployed military forces in joint with the Alliance Star Confederation.

-Bombings within the Munashe-held Windhoek, sparks outrage and forced conscription throughout their territory and mobilization against the other factions. (+ 21,000 Conscripts)

International Response

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a350/SWATguy528/30px-Angenteria_4jpg.gif The Holy Imperium of Angenteria

Emperor Marcus Reginus in a press conference stated, "It is our duty to see that the Arcicanan people do not suffer the violence and bloodshed we had to live through. In order to ensure this, I have authorized the deployment of the Imperial Guard to the nation. They, and many other like-minded nations, will ensure that the violence in Arcicana is stopped, and peace and order restored there once and for all.""


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a350/SWATguy528/22px-Flag_ASC.jpg The Alliance Star Confederation

President James: Simply stated in a media address, "...A call to military action and intervention to the nation. We are moving to restore the former Democratic Government, and return safety and freedom to this nation which deserves it so. After the major combatant elements have been shutdown, we will move in with restoration efforts to rebuild a new, independent, nation..."


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a350/SWATguy528/30px-Skgorriasflagthing.jpg The Empire of the Wolf

Emperor Ianovich I: Approved and supported the measure, in their first official contact with the Alliance Star Confederation stating, "...I ... authorize the deployment of the Rapid Pacification Force to confront the decaying situation within this nation..."


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a350/SWATguy528/30px-Chernobl_18jpg.gif The Free Republic of Chernobl

The President of Chernobl: Supported the Alliance Star Confederation, with both a verbal endorsement and by military means, stating, "...we are deploying peacekeeping forces..."


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a350/SWATguy528/30px-Ficspaujl9.jpg The Commonwealth of New Brittonia

Prime Minister Jacob Crouch: Joined in the call to action, with the following statement; "...an emergency force of our Royal Brittonian Marines has been approved and is set to arrive in Arcicana very soon, acting with friends in the Alliance Star and Chernobyl."

Rules of the Roleplay


All Arguments, Questions, etc. are to take place here.
This is a TRUE Modern-Time Roleplay. Offensive lasers, Combat Robots, etc are not allowed. Any questions, can be posted here and will be responded to, with the utmost haste.
Literacy is not an option as single-line action roleplays will not be allowed in this Roleplay.
The intention of this roleplay is to practice Roleplay skills, to have an outlet to relieve stress in, and a place to show off your military/Roleplaying skills and make new allies. This is not intended to start wars between other nations, or other related conflicts. Therefore no gains or losses in the nations involved will be tallied. Just think of this as an early End-War Campaign.
My word is FINAL. Period.
Rules can and will be added as needed, at any time.


How to Join the Roleplay

Simply state the Economical/Military Amount/Deployment, or Political Actions in this tread.

There are currently five different factions/sides to "Join."

Restoration Forces
SPACEA Multinational Humanitarian/Military Force, under the leadership of the Alliance Star Confederation, deployed to restore order and restore the Democratically Elected Government.

The Alliance Star Confederation (Military Support) [Link to Deployed Forces (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13971548&postcount=40)]

The Holy Imperium of Angenteria (Military Support) [Link to Deployed Forces (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13977733&postcount=67)]

The Empire of the Wolf (Military Support) [Link to Deployed Forces (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13971947&postcount=45)]

The Free Republic of Chernobl (Military Support) [Link to Deployed Forces (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13972101&postcount=49)]

The Commonwealth of New Brittonia (Military Support) [Link to Deployed Forces (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13972564&postcount=58)]

Support Forces to the Government and Military of Enu Munashe
SPACESupport toward the current Military Dictatorship of Enu Munashe.

The Red Tidean government (Military Deployment) [Link to Deployed Forces (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13978842&postcount=81)]

Support Forces to the United for Liberation Militia
SPACESupport for the Liberational Party in order to remove all systems of Government in the nation.

Support Forces to the People's Movement in Arcicana Militia
SPACESupport for the People's Movement in the means to instate a Socialist Regime into power.

Support Forces to the Free Republic of Arcicana Movement Militia
SPACESupport for the installment of a new Totalitarian Regime into power, replacing the former.

The Nod Parliametari Republik of Uiri (Military Deployment) [Link to Deployed Forces (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13978600&postcount=72)]

The Most Serene Noble Republic of Santheres (Military Deployment) [Link to Deployed Forces (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13979891&postcount=84)]

The United Kingdom of Ustio North (Military Deployment) [Link to Deployed Forces (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13978672&postcount=74)]
Royal British States
27-08-2008, 14:56
OOC: I'm interested to join.
Alliance Star
27-08-2008, 14:59
((OoC: Sounds good. I'll keep you posted, as I'm writing up the first of the Roleplay as we speak.))
Minor Parties
27-08-2008, 15:49
((How would mercenaries and other small parties for hire fit in?))
Third Spanish States
27-08-2008, 16:10
(OOC: Considering the goals of the United for Liberation Militia, Third Spanish States would be very interested in supporting them through smuggling non-official logistics, mercenaries and Black Ops nothing else besides that)
Skgorria
27-08-2008, 16:41
OOC: I'd be interested in playing part of the Restoration Forces, perhaps slightly corrupt ones who are selling arms.
Alliance Star
28-08-2008, 07:02
((OoC: As for Mercs, you can enter in on your own means, or support one of the factions.

You're not required to support a faction, it's just an option to enable said force to have a better foothold, and have a more interesting roleplay.))
Third Spanish States
28-08-2008, 07:08
Just to explain it, as there is no real government in Third Spanish States, its military forces are technically mercenary, and could easily disassociate the actions of its members with Third Spanish States, were it not for the heavy ideological load of their soldiers regarding the defense and promotion of anarchism.
Alliance Star
28-08-2008, 07:12
((OoC: Oh, no worries. That sounds excellent. As soon I get the IC thread up and running we can get started.))
Uiri
28-08-2008, 19:24
OOC: Very nice. Very intriguing. I'd probably support FROAM.
New Brittonia
28-08-2008, 21:05
Okay, I am interested in joining... I am looking in using troops to deliver human civilian aid. A a result for the "deliver humanitarian aid" goal, although we would be with Alliance Star, New Brittonian Forces are still more ambiguous, playing one group over another to deliver medical supplies to villagers.
Chernobl
28-08-2008, 21:28
Im very interested. My troops would be peacekeepers and aid givers. Almost like the US in Somalia.
Skgorria
28-08-2008, 21:31
Im very interested. My troops would be peacekeepers and aid givers. Almost like the US in Somalia.

Hopefully slightly more competent :P
Chernobl
28-08-2008, 21:31
haha yes.
Chernobl
28-08-2008, 21:34
oh jeez, all the armies combined couln't take on one of my standard expanditionary forces. Guess I should cut the numbers down huh?
Santheres
28-08-2008, 21:34
I think Santheres will be sending a few thousand men (and the Santherese Humanitarian Society) to help in policing and they will have ties to FROAM because they are supporting what Santheres views to be a legitimate government (read: not installed entirely by people from abroad and not the current one, and not communist/anarchist). I'm looking forward to seeing what happens when our troops come into contact with restoration forces with which we are not actually at war. And how we'll deal with FROAM when what they're doing starts rubbing against us the wrong way....

Yeah, Chernobl. S'why I'm only sending a few thousand. This conflict is not that important to Santheres, so it doesn't warrant a large expedition.
Chernobl
28-08-2008, 21:36
Im am going to stick to keeping the civilian population safe, all else comes second.
Skgorria
28-08-2008, 21:40
I'm planning on a reinforced brigade of light infantry with maybe a gunship squadron
Uiri
28-08-2008, 21:41
Ah, yes. The only reason I'm supporting FROAM is to make this thing my puppet state. Oh wait...did I just use a possessive, sorry, a puppet state. Either side works really, its just that we can justify it easier with FROAM because we can just say we are supporting democracy. Like FC ideals. Actually maybe we could propose an Act to help one side as a united front since already a sizeable number of us are involved. Replied to your post on the FC forums, BTW.

EDIT: Whoops. Yay unification! Anyways, now we should have a good reason to propose an Act.
Santheres
28-08-2008, 21:47
Haha, I had way too many edits on that last post. FROAM works because it's Arcicana that wants it (to some extent), while the restoration is wanted solely by people who are not Arcicana. So, yes, supporting the Republic (since we can later force FROAM's hand) seems to be a good endeavor.
Uiri
28-08-2008, 21:49
Actually its a totalitarian regime. But whatever, I guess we should discuss this more - perhaps on AIM?
Santheres
28-08-2008, 21:51
In all fairness toward metagaming, though, I don't think we'd know that they'd want a totalitarian regime, especially if they're trying to lobby for support and tell us what we'd like to think. Though, AIM works. I'm logging in now.
Third Spanish States
28-08-2008, 22:09
I'm planning on a reinforced brigade of light infantry with maybe a gunship squadron

I'm planning on sending a brigade or three of flag-less troops (http://16ops.com/camerapics/one_six/BlackOps_TL_05_lar.jpg) at most, a handful of special operatives (http://www.aquariusage.com/images/artimages/De_werkelijke_Men_in_Black.jpg) and a squadron of special helicopters (http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/853/VRWCBlackHelicopters.jpg)

Don't ask. (http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/4444/invisiblenetworkbj0.png)
Skgorria
28-08-2008, 22:11
I'm planning on sending a brigade or three of flag-less troops (http://16ops.com/camerapics/one_six/BlackOps_TL_05_lar.jpg) at most, a handful of special operatives (http://www.aquariusage.com/images/artimages/De_werkelijke_Men_in_Black.jpg) and a squadron of special helicopters (http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/853/VRWCBlackHelicopters.jpg)

Don't ask. (http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/4444/invisiblenetworkbj0.png)

There is a hell of a difference between a brigade and three divisions! I might roll out some of the Wulfen or SAU 209, it's been a while since I played my specops.
Third Spanish States
28-08-2008, 22:23
Three brigades would be too problematic to sneak. Only one is coming, in a quite covert way. No official statements, no support written. Therefore I believe it's important to also emphasize that claiming to know such forces came from Third Spanish States beforehand would be metagaming.
Skgorria
28-08-2008, 22:27
Three brigades would be too problematic to sneak. Only one is coming, in a quite covert way. No official statements, no support written. Therefore I believe it's important to also emphasize that claiming to know such forces came from Third Spanish States beforehand would be metagaming.

By the sounds of it, this region is going to be hellish and have a baker's dozen different nations and groups going after their own agenda. The chance of anyone caring where your troops have come from is minimal, and I'm sure we all know that if we start metagaming this thread will go downhill muy rapido.
New Brittonia
28-08-2008, 22:28
I am focusing on humanitarian aid myself, staying in one issue and making it good.
Chernobl
28-08-2008, 22:28
Which is why i picked the simple "protect the innocent" task instead of "New puppet state".
New Brittonia
28-08-2008, 22:36
I think this'll be a good game. A good fight.
Uiri
28-08-2008, 22:57
I think NB said it best. We'll need maps of who controls what and whose colonies can count. Because I have a colony in East Africa (Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania, Burundi & Rwanda) and I think there may be more african colonies which come into play.
New Brittonia
29-08-2008, 00:46
Did I... Lets just say that I did...

Now, there needs to be some rules on colonies, so that control does not overlap.
Chernobl
29-08-2008, 01:39
Well first of all do we RP our own encounters?
New Brittonia
29-08-2008, 04:07
What do you mean?
Alliance Star
29-08-2008, 07:58
((OoC: I'm working on an IC thread. I'm starting to find some video to make things all the more authentic.

Also, Colonies? I suppose, but it's geographically based on Namibia, so we could 'Assume' the nearby states in Geographical relation.))
Kewen
29-08-2008, 09:30
count me in! tho im not to sure about who to help.. but ya ima through my support in for the Peoples movement of africa.
Uiri
29-08-2008, 13:03
Well, its more independant than a colony. Its more of a protectorate so I handle its Defence and Foreign Relations. So that would mean I would probably have an air base within Tanzania's borders from which to launch strafing raids and attack targets with missiles and such.
Alliance Star
29-08-2008, 14:03
((OoC: Alright?))
New Brittonia
29-08-2008, 20:27
Why are we saying "OoC:" before our posts when this is an OoC thread?

Also, out of curiosity and out of character have the same abbreviation...
New Brittonia
30-08-2008, 17:50
is this game still on?
Alliance Star
31-08-2008, 13:51
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a350/SWATguy528/30px-Flag_ASC.jpg

Alliance Star Confederation Response:

President James: "...A call to military action and intervention to the nation. We are moving to restore the former Democratic Government, and return safety and freedom to this nation which deserves it so. After the major combatant elements have been shutdown, we will move in with restoration efforts to rebuild a new, independent, nation..."

Deployed Forces: (Restoration Force)

8/31

(1) Carrier Strike Group: Composition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_strike_group#CSG_composition)
(1) One Marines Strike Group/Expeditionary Unit: Composition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expeditionary_Strike_Group)

9/4

(1) Carrier Strike Group: Composition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_strike_group#CSG_composition)
(24) Mixed Military Sealift Command Vessels: Composition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Sealift_Command)
(2) Destroyer Squardons: Composition (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/navy/squadron.htm)
(2) Submarine Squadrons: Composition (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/navy/squadron.htm)
(47) C-17 Globemaster III (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-17_Globemaster_III)
(12) C-5 Galaxy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-5_Galaxy)
(312) C-130s and variants (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-130)
(82) F-22 Raptors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-22)
(30) KC-10 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KC-10)
(142) KC-135 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KC-135)
(17) Various Brigade Combat Teams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigade_Combat_Team)

Marines: Use weapons of the (RL) United States Army and Marines, with the M4A1 as the standard combat rifle of the Unified Services. Noted, is the use of the ACU in all means and applications.
Uiri
31-08-2008, 16:54
Alliance Star, an alliance called the Freedom Coalition, which Santheres and I are both members of are putting intervention to a vote which shall end tomorrow morning. We shall be sending a large froce from nations such as Kirav, Ustio North, Miamoria and Ascelonia, to name a few. We hope that should action be accepted that all our forces will be allowed to assist FROAM.
Skgorria
31-08-2008, 17:25
IC Post coming soon
Alliance Star
31-08-2008, 17:35
Uiri: I would just need military numbers and an official statement. A number/list of deployed military assets would be nice. Also, your formalities aren't needed here. This is all OOC. I just did my post the way I did, so set an example.

Waits for IC post! ;P
Alliance Star
31-08-2008, 17:59
Skgorria: I saw the post! ^_^ Although, we're a Joint-Restoration force, so we cooperate, not command. We work with each other, while allowing our own commanders to command our own units, providing mutual support.

I appreciate the support, but I do wish to know what your Rapid Pacification Force is compromised of.
Skgorria
31-08-2008, 18:09
Ah okay then, sounds good. You inform me of that ICly :)

As for what the RPF consists of, it is as follows:

3 x light infantry companies
1 x mechanised infantry company
1 x Platoon of engineers
1 x SpecOps Platoon
1 x Tank Platoon
3 x Mi-28 gunships
1x Mi-8 transport

Light infantry goes in trucks, mechanised infantry in BMP-4s. All equipment will be airlifted. All formations have embedded support weapons.
Alliance Star
31-08-2008, 18:14
Cool, Since I'm a Navy Man IRL, I'll provide that without issue. ICly, yes. At the end of the day, I'll contact all whom declared themselves, members of the Restoration Forces, to a joint Military Conference, to discussion priorities, locations, oversight regions (like in Iraq/Afghanistan for reference) and the like. I want to do this, as I do in real life.

All I ask, is your patience until tomorrow. Until then, just begin any movements toward the area, where I recommend, no action of Airborne means, quite yet. ^_^

Hope you don't mind I borrowed your flag. (Check front page!)
Third Spanish States
31-08-2008, 18:27
I'm sending the following forces, all with no national identification symbols and ready to put their knowledge to their graves with standard issue cyanide pills if necessary.

1 Black Ops mechanized brigade
12 Astute Class submarines
60 stealth transport ships
5 amphibious assault ships 5
5 stealth light carriers,
12 stealth VTOL transport planes
1 F-35B

There will be no official statement on this deployment.
Alliance Star
31-08-2008, 18:33
Operating Independently? Got it!

More than welcome to post ICly any time, just keep in note, everything is Realistic, as well as movements.
Chernobl
31-08-2008, 19:13
The first fleet contains:
1 CVN-21 Supercarrier
4 Modernized Bismark class Battleships
4 Kirov class crusiers
10 Kongo class destroyers

The 2nd RR contains:
60,000 Infantrymen equiped with the FELIN System (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/felin/)
15,000 GAZ Trucks
1,000 Leopard 2A6s and crew
2,000 Dardo Hitfist AFVs and crew
1,000 Ka-52 Blackshark helicopters
1,500 Uh-60 Blackhawks
200 Globemaster UAVs

12th Armored contains:
3,000 Leopard 2A6 MBTs with crew
5,000 Dardo hitfist AFVs with crew
10,000 BUFFEL APCs

(OOC:Keep in mind not all of the units will be on combat missions most well be reserves or patrol missions.)

Our forces main mission is to keep the civilian population safe, when we arrive we will set up several safe camps for the civillians. They will be guarded by the majority of the force when the rest does missions for the restoratian force.
Alliance Star
31-08-2008, 19:18
Alright! Thanks. Joint Military Meeting will happen tomorrow to go over vital military targets, with all members.

I just ask for your patience.
Chernobl
31-08-2008, 19:30
Do you want us to move forces into the area?
Chernobl
31-08-2008, 19:31
By the way the whole news thing was really well done kudos.
Alliance Star
31-08-2008, 19:41
You can start moving forces into the area, of course. But, it's a Real-Time Roleplay. So, they can only move as far, as they normally can in a day.

Thanks! I worked for a WHILE on paint.
Chernobl
31-08-2008, 19:43
Seeing to the quality looks like it took weeks.

But any way Do you want us to move forces into the area?
Alliance Star
31-08-2008, 19:52
It feels like I did. x.x

Again, yes, you can move forces in the area. Just remember, we're working on a true timeline, so a Day, IRL, is a Day on here. Same goes with military movements.
Third Spanish States
31-08-2008, 21:07
It would take somewhere between 15 to 25 days to arrive with any force, counting from now. I'll see to a post but I'm a bit out of inspiration by now. Hope that it won't be a problem my worry with realism, because deployments take time.
New Brittonia
31-08-2008, 21:42
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/4526/ficspaujl9.jpg
Official New Brittonian Response

Official Transcript of a Speech by the Prime Minister of the Commonwealth of New Brittonia, Jacob Crouch

My fellow Brittonians. The world we live in is troubling, with threats to the general peace arising in the most obscure of places. Tonight, we have found proof of that. Civil war in the nation of Arcicana
has killed thousands. People have been murdered. Children as young as eight have been used as soldiers. Mothers and daughters have suffered with rape being used as weapon. Al of this has not only saddened me, but angered me as well.

At this time, I think back and remember the sacred Brittonian duty. This calling, given to all Brittonians, whether born or naturalized, is a simple national duty. We are to lead the world through our morals, through our actions. And it is not possible, as time has told, to ignore a crisis when it unfold. To do so would be pernicious, negligent. In other words, simply wrong.

It is because of this that, through deliberations with Governour-General Victor Cecil, an emergency force of our Royal Brittonian Marines has been approved and is set to arrive in Arcicana very soon, acting with friends in the Alliance Star and Chernobyl. However, this force albeit consisting of some of the best soldiers in the world, is too small to cope with an ever growing problem. This requires a larger force consisting of members of the Brittonian Army and New Brittonia’s best peacekeepers, the Royal Brittonian Air Force to enter Arcicana. This larger force requires more than the Prime Minister and Governor General’s approve. We need a full out vote in Parliament. This is where you come in.

In the next week, a vote on the authorization of force will come to pass. It is up to you, whether your district has a Conservative MP, or a Communist, a Green, Pink, Liberal, or an independent Minister. Tell your politicians, for the sake of people’s lives, to approve this bill.

Thank you, Brittonia.

Good night, and good luck.

May God Save the Queen.

29-08-08
New Brittonia
31-08-2008, 21:46
OOC: If it looks eerily similar... it is because I am sending the exact same thing as Alliance Star is...

Deployed Forces: (Restoration Force)

(1) Carrier Strike Group: Composition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_strike_group#CSG_composition)
(1) One Marines Strike Group/Expeditionary Unit: Composition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expeditionary_Strike_Group)
Alliance Star
31-08-2008, 21:50
You could post your IC post in the IC thread. ^_^

It's really, really good. Nice speech.

I smell a future ally!
Uiri
01-09-2008, 00:20
I just wanted to be sure you were ok with 8 or so nations co-operating to help FROAM. We won't be able to go ahead until tomorrow morning though because thats when voting ends.
Alliance Star
01-09-2008, 01:03
If I wanted to make a thread, that favored toward a easy win for me, I would have made it closed.

I just want to see Nationstates RP experience firsthand, show my own, and get some practice. Possibly, make some real allies out of the mix. Go for it.
Markiana
01-09-2008, 18:08
Markiana want to do his part also in the Restoration Forces.

We will send peace keepers and medical troops.

6 infantry companies.
3 medical platoons.
8 blackhawk helicopters.

all infantry and medical troops are equiped with M113s.
Anemos Major
01-09-2008, 20:49
Can we join? We are going to send a lot of carriers, for one, and if you allow it, humanoid robotic weapons (roughly 4m tall each)

If accepted, my first post will look like this:
"High Lord, a civil war has broken out in Arcicana." The military attache followed the High Lord down the hallway, flanked by his guards. "What does Lord Barek suggest?" Barek was one of the Councillors of the Holy Office of War, and was one of those responsible for making the armed force's choices. "My Lord, Escalion Island is right next to Arcicana. If this civil war goes out of control, then..." High Lord Ilfir Erenthi III turned and said "Tell Barek that I accept the declaration of war against the anti-government factions of Arcicana. Any further choices are up to the Councillors, but I expect regular updates on the situation." The attache bowed and walked away.

"Im-serren, karak!" The Anemos Major 4th Infantry Guard Fusilier Division turned, and raising their assault rifles, they marched up the ramp of the IFAM Nibelung, one of the newly acquired Wasp-class Amphibious Assault ships. Because the two Supercarriers of the navy were tied up defending Anemos City and the Garganos Canal after Incident 45, the Navy was to send three Charles de Gaulle-class carriers, 2 Nimitz-classes and the usual complement of ships. The Supercarrier Pilus, newest of the Malleus line, was to be launched in two days with its full complement of planes, and from there it would head straight for Arcacia with the newly established War Fleet Pilus.

"Fire!" The Knightpolice unit executed the last batch of terrorists for the day, taking off their helmets and trying to shake away the shock of having to kill again and again. Soon, however, they put them back on, formed up, and continued marching. They had a new assignment; Arcicana.

From: The Holy Empire of Anemos Major, Holy Office of War.
To: The President of the Alliance Star Confederation.

The Holy Empire of Anemos Major, as of now, announces its hostility against the anti-government movements inside your nation, and are awaiting your permission to strike.
New Brittonia
02-09-2008, 02:49
You could post your IC post in the IC thread. ^_^

It's really, really good. Nice speech.

I smell a future ally!

Where's the IC thread?
Alliance Star
02-09-2008, 12:24
Markiana, you're more than welcome to join.

Anemos Major: This is a true Modern Time thread, where only weapons that can be found or conceived during this moment, right now are allowed. Sadly, that does not include Humaniod-Robots. (See Rules in First Post.)

The IC post is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=564636). Sadly, my CSG is still another three days away. -Wishes there was a NS Earth, where all this happened.-
New Brittonia
02-09-2008, 16:36
Okay:

For the record, for your news bulletin requirements, the Prime Minister of New Brittonia, is Jaclb Croutch, whose image is Pittsburgh Mayor Luke Ravenstahl

Like here: http://blog.pennlive.com/pennsyltucky/2007/08/Ravenstahl.jpg

Also, the New Brittonian flag is the Australian flag parody used in the Simpsons episode "Bart vs. Australia"

Link here: http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/4526/ficspaujl9.jpg
Angenteria
02-09-2008, 17:06
If it's cool, I'd like to join too. Deploying a regiment of Imperial Guard in conjunction with Alliance Star. A regiment contains:

50,000 Guardsmen and women, including support and heavy weapons.
3000 APC/AFVs
1000 Main Battle Tanks
1500 Attack Helicopters
1000 Transport Helicopters
500 Stormtroopers (SpecOps)


I also wanna send in an Imperial Navy detachment, consisting of:
1 Supercarrier
3 Moderized Battleships
6 Cruisers
10 Destroyers

EDIT: Made specifications for regiment and navy group.
Ruccola
02-09-2008, 17:08
I'd love to join in, but military movements are not my forte. =P

However, I'd be highly interested in sending a peacekeeping force after all the fighting is over.
Alliance Star
02-09-2008, 22:02
New Brittonia: Thanks! That helps, greatly. Flag will be updated. ^_^ -Works on establishing an embassy first-

Angenteria: More than welcome! Just ask that the rules are observed. That's it! Begin posting ICly when ready.

Ruccola! Of course! ^_^
Uiri
02-09-2008, 22:14
FC forces will be arriving soon. Is there a map so that we know what territory FROAM controls? ANd is anyone attacking FROAM forces atm?
Alliance Star
02-09-2008, 22:28
Uiri: Maps on the front page. No one is attacking the FROAM, yet but Restoration Forces and other independent forces will be.

You do know you need to move those forces, ICly and also post your, "Order of Battle" here. Also, the weapons limit.
Uiri
02-09-2008, 22:45
Yes, but I don't even know the size of the force which is being contributed. I know Ascelonia, Ustio North and Santheres are all contributing but that also leaves 5 others who I don't know about. Not to mention I don't know the size of their forces

My ORBAT (I may pull up to twice this stuff, with the exception of the East African Rafales - I may pull up to 75 times that.):

12,000 land troops each with a gun (either a FAMAS rifle or a FN MINIMI), a FÉLIN system and rations for 3 days.

400 Leclerc MBTs
400 M270 MLRSs
600 VABs
100 VBCIs
400 VBLs

1 CVBG consisiting of:

1 Charles de Gaulle class aircraft carrier w/ 36 Rafale multirole jets
1 La Fayette class frigate
2 Horizon class frigates
2 FREMM frigates
1 Lewis and Clarke class auxilliary ship

10 Foudre class LPDs
2 Le Triomphante class SSBNs
2 Barracuda class SSNs

100 Rafale jets operating from bases in my East African colony
Alliance Star
02-09-2008, 23:00
Uiri: That's just fine. Thanks!
Ustio North
02-09-2008, 23:08
My ORBAT

As part of the FC forces, Ustio will deploy the following:

Army
x5,000 Troops - Equipment including G36, Strayer Voigt Infinity 1911 Sidearm, Rations
x50 Stryker APC's
x50 Stryker MGS's
x50 AH-1Z Attack Helicopters

Navy
x1 CBG:
x1 Admiral Kuznetsov Aircraft Carrier w/ 41 Su-33 jets
x5 Type 23 Destroyers
x5 Visby Class Corvettes
x4 Wasp Class Assault Ships w/ Twin Huey Helicopters
x4 Albion Class Docking Platform Ships w/ LCU's
x10 Zubr Class Air Cushioned Landing Craft

Air Force
x50 Panavia Tornado IDS's
x10 EF-111 Ravens
x2 E-3 AWACS

OOC: EDIT: Done.
Markiana
02-09-2008, 23:18
from: Markianan Goverment

At the first stage of our mission we want to concentrate our aid at the capital which has had the most damage in the civil war. after that we can take care of other parts. I hope this is okay with everybody. When not we can send more troops to compensate this.
We have a max. of 30.000 troops ready to go when needed.

I hope we can end this crisis quickly,

Mark Heurman.
New Brittonia
02-09-2008, 23:43
Can you please put IC posts in the IC thread?
Alliance Star
02-09-2008, 23:49
Markiana: I'll have my Rear Admiral contact all members for a joint-meeting/briefing to discuss combat zones and areas. I've already been working on a plan, of which we can hit the ground, and running. ^_^

Also, make sure whom your sending your information to, as forces are now involved against the Restoration Forces.

New Brittonia: Thank you, and agreed.

Current: Working on an IC News Post.
Next: Updating the OCC front page.
New Brittonia
02-09-2008, 23:52
Who is against us... besides the Spanish mercenaries
Santheres
02-09-2008, 23:55
Alliance Star, TG! Thanks.

Will get an ORBAT soon, probably tonight. I'm looking at having approximately 355,000 troops ready to be deployed, but there will be much fewer actually going. Not sure on the naval group yet.

And the Coalition is, NB. We're supporting FROAM.
New Brittonia
02-09-2008, 23:56
Cool... which side are you on?
Red Tide2
02-09-2008, 23:57
OOC: The Red Tidean government will be intervening as well. In public, this will be a peacekeeping operation. In practice, it's really going to be supporting the government of Arcicana(who Red Tide had been supporting all along), although in a more none-confrontational way.

Forces too be deployed:

Note: Italiscized means ULTRA-UBERZ TOP SECRET!

State Guard(IE: Regular Army)

Note: Battery=8 launchers/guns

Ground Forces:

17th Guard Army Corp(100,000 men)
Consists of 5 Guard Divisions(1 Armored, 1 Mechanized, 3 Motorized-Infantry)

2nd Guard Airborne Corp(60,000 men)
Consists of 3 Divisions(2 Motor-Airborne, 1 Mechanized-Airborne)

Total: 160,000 men

Misc Forces:

4 Batteries of Anti-Ship Missile Launchers

State Naval Forces

3rd Carrier Battlegroup:
x2 Tsunamis-Class Supercarriers
x3 Bluebird-Class Guided Missile Cruisers
x8 M-Class Heavy Missile Cruisers
x2 G-Class Fire Support Cruisers
x12 Tidal Wave-Class Multi-Role Destroyers
x24 Mockingbird-Class Anti-Submarine Frigates
x16 TC-2B Anti-Submarine Helicopters
x80 Su-33NRT
x32 H/K-1 Surface Attack Aircraft
x20 TC-1 Tanker Aircraft
x20 TC-3 RADAR Aircraft
x8 K-3 Cargo Aircraft
Assorted logistics and transport vessels

Total Vessels: 51 warships
Total Aircraft: 154

State Aero Forces

Note: 1 Regiment=25 Aircraft

Too be deployed after security of requisite infrastructure:
4 Regiments of Su-30RT Multi-Role Fighters
2 Regiments of H/K-1 Surface Attack Aircraft
Assorted Tankers and Transports

State Rocket Guard

Note: 1 regiment=five batteries

1 Regiment of R-85 'Cleanser' Ballistic Missile Launchers

Will post ICly once I finish dinner.
New Brittonia
02-09-2008, 23:58
So, you're gonna be hoe Russia is in Abkhazia then, Red Tide?
Alliance Star
03-09-2008, 00:15
Red Tide2: Welcome! I'll update the front when I can. Welcome to start posting ICly when ready.

Santheres: Also, just waiting on your Order of Battle. Take your time.

Currently: Working on a News IC Post.
Next: Updating the OOC Front Page.
Santheres
03-09-2008, 05:40
Santheres is mobilizing the 3rd Expeditionary Force, but they're not all deploying this moment. The section deploying is made up of:

35,000 Gendarme with 2,500 Iveco LMVs and 100 NH90 transports
10,000 Condotta shock troops with 1,000 Dardo IFVs and 200 Puma light tanks (light tank version of the Dardo)
5,000 Rangers with 1,000 Dardos
500 Barbuta medic/pararescuers
500 engineers

Troops are armed primarily with G36s and P-226s, along with various support weapons embedded.

This will be the first response force. In line for deployment are basically more of the same, plus 400 Ariete MBTs and some Mangusta attack helicopters.

Fleet
CVBG makeup -
1 Cavour carrier - MMS Anerio
CVW: 30 AV-8Bs
10 Rinascimento (FREMM)
2 Anti-air
3 Anti-sub
5 general purpose
3 Horizon AA
3 Durand de la Penne guided missile cruisers
2 Sauro IV submarine

Accompanying will be the House's only Savina-class arsenal (low-profile, stealthy, and double-hulled, controlled remotely, 300 vertical launch bays) for use in case of fleet emergency.

One more CVBG (minus arsenal) is in line for deployment if necessary.
Ustio North
03-09-2008, 11:10
Alliance Star, i finished my ORBAT - check it out and tell me if there's anything else.
Alliance Star
03-09-2008, 16:27
Santheres: That's looking just fine. Just fill in what you can, when you're ready.

Ustio North: Just fine. Thanks!

Currently: Updating the front page
Next: IC movement post.
Ustio North
03-09-2008, 17:13
No problem

EDIT: Alliance Star, why is William Frank always in the same pose? It's making me laugh, but is he just a cardboard cutout?

EDIT 2: I've just seen that Red Tide2 has been banned for flaming, so don't expect any posts from him for 24 hours.
New Brittonia
03-09-2008, 18:35
Alliance Star... my prime Minister's name is Jacob Crouch, sorry for the mix up/typo.

I am gonna compile a list of Brittonian famous People/Governmental officials for official use. Also, if there is any mix-up with who is who, just look at the signature por favor.

Still, it is of great quality, though.
Alliance Star
03-09-2008, 19:38
Ustio North: As for the Press release, there are other images that I can doctor. I just have to you know, work, go to college, have a life outside of this website; those sort of things.

New Brittonia: Will note for future reference.

All: HOW ARE YOU GUYS GETTING THERE SO FAST? O.o I still have another two-three days before extended range used of my E-2s.
Angenteria
03-09-2008, 20:14
Maybe our soldiers are very efficient?
Alliance Star
03-09-2008, 20:25
Yeah, but ships are already reaching those destination. No efficient Solider/Sailor/Marine/Airman/etc can taxi naval vessels to move so fast.
Uiri
03-09-2008, 21:22
Alliance Star, I have 12 colonies located all over the world and 6 states freely assosciating with me. I have naval shit everywhere and it is just a matter of moving it. Plus, I have to make up for lost time which is about 2 days.

Also, after doing calculations, various airbases within the East African colony would contain 7,500 planes altogether, so don't be surprised if I end up pulling that many planes. Right now I'm only commiting 100, just warning y'all more could come. I may pull up to double what I have already commited out of my ass.
Angenteria
03-09-2008, 21:25
Yeah, but ships are already reaching those destination. No efficient Solider/Sailor/Marine/Airman/etc can taxi naval vessels to move so fast.

Maybe our ships are very,very,very,very,very,very fast? :D
Alliance Star
03-09-2008, 21:29
This is starting to get to the point where I didn't want it to be.

c.c

Tread lightly.
Santheres
03-09-2008, 21:37
I could have sworn I just posted....

Well, my fleet won't be arriving for quite a long while, which is why a group is arriving by air. Planes don't take long to get to their destinations, though admittedly my troops will then have to march from wherever they manage to drop into and start setting up base camp and get to constructing some kind of a makeshift runway.

I'll be at 100 active soldiers for a bit. How much control over FROAM am I allowed?

And what is the "point where [you] didn't want it to be"?
New Brittonia
03-09-2008, 21:39
I want to go and have my Prime Minister meet with you, Alliance Star.

Any Restoration forces, Foreign minister Katchab will be doing shuttle diplomacy too.

When will this summit begin?
Ustio North
03-09-2008, 21:46
This is starting to get to the point where I didn't want it to be.

c.c

Tread lightly.

What's that?
Uiri
03-09-2008, 21:51
AS, I know for a fact that Miamoria is going to be sending troops for our cause and that Kirav is going to (or already gave) a shout about his african colony so that we may end up landing in Cape Town and crossing the border of FROAM.

It would take about 2 days for my subs to arrive from Nigeria so they will arrive midnight (local time which until Sunday is UTC+1) on Sep 5, which is 11 pm Sep 4 UTC which is when I'll post their arrival. As for the CVBG, thats another story.
Alliance Star
03-09-2008, 21:52
Santheres:I don't mind early arrivials or large forces. That's fine. I understand that.

The thing I have an issue with is 'teleportation'. I just don't think that's fair to those whom are taking the time, and deploying from distant areas.

As for FROAM, you can control them all, if warranted, but I'll control the rest and other forces, unless others want to take that up. This is an open RP.

Ustio North: A OOC/Frustration war over something that was suppose to be stress-free, to develop skill with forces. Both large and small. I just don't want it to the point of nations killing other nations over an RP of a fictional nation.

Uiri: That's not what I'm talking about.

New Brittonia: Summit sounds good, but I would prefer to have it post-conflict, for the safety and security for our leaders. However, I'd like a Secured-Video Conference tomorrow for discussion, and distribution of plans.

But, this is a joint coalition, so it's a democratic-process of majority. So, if the others prefer a Summit with our leaders, I'll be there, with a smiling face. ^_^
Uiri
03-09-2008, 21:55
Alliance Star, remember this:

Democracy is two wolves and one sheep deciding what to have for lunch.

Also, you may have missed your post right above yours, basically I'm being realistic with my subs and I'll find out how to be realistic with my CVBG. Subs arrive at 11 pm UTC tomorrow which is when I'll post their arrival.
Alliance Star
03-09-2008, 21:59
Uiri: Alright?
Uiri
03-09-2008, 22:02
Just pointing out that just because it is democratic doesn't mean that you can't refuse the decision if it is in your best interest to do so. Wolves eat sheep if you didn't catch the fact that the wolves would eat the sheep and because of 'democracy' the sheep had to be slaughtered.

Uiri: That's not what I'm talking about.

Then what are you talking about?

EDIT after checking News Updates:

Whoa! Windhoek has an original population of 280,000. 21,000 conscripts is 7.5% of the original city. But there was intense fighting from the start which would probably remove 70,000 people. Then the bombings. Let's say I launched 5 bombing raids. Each bomb is a 500 pound laser-guided general purpose bomb. There are 80 per raid and with 5 raids that's 200,000 pounds of explosives. You tell me the casualties - especially since my pilots target highest buildings first.
Alliance Star
03-09-2008, 22:41
Uiri: I'm talking about teleportation. As I've stated.

And it's a joint-venture, between nations of human beings, with the goal of restoring a nation. It's a bit hard to call nations of kindness, ^_^

But, of course, that's why Communism/Socialism/Totalitarianism/etc. are there to counter that statement.

Anyway, casulties are a fine idea. I'll work on it.

And those new conscripts are not just from Windhoek, by any means. Note, they have far more territory than just Windhoek, and most noted, coastal cities. Also, those numbers are smaller, due to the conflict in play continuing for the years that it has been.

Anything else?
New Brittonia
04-09-2008, 00:51
A.S. I want to do a private meeting with you, just with you. My Prime Minister meets your President, sort of deal.
Third Spanish States
04-09-2008, 02:56
I am sorry to inform this, but I won't be participating of this RP due to both IC and OOC reasons. Or to be exact: that thing called Writer's Block won't allow me to keep up with it and I just lost interest and found IC incompatibilities to an intervention like this, because truth be told, cultural bigotry still exists even in a place like Third Spanish States.
Alliance Star
04-09-2008, 14:20
New Brittonia: Alright.

Third Spanish States: No worries.
Ustio North
04-09-2008, 14:39
Alliance Star, i'm going to have to add some Hovercraft to my Orbat or my Strykers won't be going anywhere. This is all i'd be adding:

x10 Zubr Class Air-Cushioned Landing Craft

Is that okay with you?
Alliance Star
04-09-2008, 14:42
Sure! Not an issue, but mind just adding that to your 'ORBAT'?
Ustio North
04-09-2008, 14:51
Absoultely, will do now.
Angenteria
04-09-2008, 21:11
Alliance Star, my Emperor's name is Marcus Riektal. You confused his last name with Tiberius Reginus, my minister of Foreign Affairs.

EDIT: Oops. I accidentally said "Marcus Reginus" in the IC thread. Sorry.
Red Tide2
05-09-2008, 01:14
Uiri. If your landing in the South, then I am landing in the North, will edit.
Uiri
05-09-2008, 01:31
Well, Ustio has to confirm that. I would think in the south because thats where FROAM is. We'd be around Oranjemund (sp?) area. Way south of Ludenwitz. Keep in mind this is 3+ nations co-ordinating an effort. I'd say 1-2 maybe 3 km from the border. This is Enu Mashe land though, so, what kind of resistance would we be expecting?

EDIT: If you are landing by water, expect to recieve interference from my subs which are lurking in the waters.
New Brittonia
05-09-2008, 02:17
New Brittonia: Alright.

Third Spanish States: No worries.

Okay, can it be in a different thread?>
Red Tide2
05-09-2008, 02:46
Well, Ustio has to confirm that. I would think in the south because thats where FROAM is. We'd be around Oranjemund (sp?) area. Way south of Ludenwitz. Keep in mind this is 3+ nations co-ordinating an effort. I'd say 1-2 maybe 3 km from the border. This is Enu Mashe land though, so, what kind of resistance would we be expecting?

EDIT: If you are landing by water, expect to recieve interference from my subs which are lurking in the waters.

I will be landing by water (currently only airborne units have arrived). However, officially my nation is there as part of a peacekeeping effort. Why would your subs hinder me if I am (supposedly) aiding you?

EDIT: After checking the front page, now I know why. Because you guys are supporting FROAM. In that case, feel free too try to intercept my battlegroup, just know you'll have to get through my ASW-screen.

EDIT2: I suggest we wait for Alliance Star and the rest too post before we continue.
Alliance Star
05-09-2008, 03:12
I'm here and the following will be noted.

NPC's: As for the indigenous forces, they can be RP'd by the factions supporting them, if requested.

New Brittonia: I'll make the thread, and we'll not only use it for that, but for overall communication, in a bit of security. How's that?
Ustio North
05-09-2008, 08:13
Well, Ustio has to confirm that. I would think in the south because thats where FROAM is. We'd be around Oranjemund (sp?) area. Way south of Ludenwitz. Keep in mind this is 3+ nations co-ordinating an effort. I'd say 1-2 maybe 3 km from the border. This is Enu Mashe land though, so, what kind of resistance would we be expecting?

EDIT: If you are landing by water, expect to recieve interference from my subs which are lurking in the waters.

I think we'd have to be landing in the South, since it's the nearest we could get to FROAM territory.
Uiri
05-09-2008, 13:05
Alliance Star - my bombing raids are going on, with a raid every hour and they will be lasting until midday local time what would be Sunday. I assume we are doing 1:1 for RL:NS time for this RP? Feel free to intercept them, they travel in groups of 8 and their only Air to Air weapon would be their guns. Of course you wouldn't necessarily know that. Also, my subs are came from the north - they are at their location now.

RedTide2 - Ah, you thought we were supporting Enu Mashe. Well, if Civil War breaks out it is because people don't like the current government which was what Enu Mashe was so we decided to go with FROAM. Would you have your radar on to be detecting subs or not? Because sometimes the commanders forget to do that.
Alliance Star
05-09-2008, 14:15
Uiri: If they're inland, and not in the Northern Territorial waters, your bombers are having free reign for quite the while, as long as they're not going to intercept my transport aircraft. Then, that'd be interesting. The subs however, are going to present an issue, for arriving Restoration forces now organizing. X.X

The bombers are sounding good, as you seem to be very well leveling Windhoek, and apparently, Lunderwitz. Course, that's only OoC knowledge to me.
Uiri
05-09-2008, 21:27
That's the plan. Level, gain the trust of the people by blaming it on the other side, re-build with the people, win. Of course that is only OOC knowledge. Yes, I am going to be targeting Luderwitz and any planes in the area which may or may not be yours.

Where are you guys landing?
Red Tide2
05-09-2008, 21:59
RedTide2 - Ah, you thought we were supporting Enu Mashe. Well, if Civil War breaks out it is because people don't like the current government which was what Enu Mashe was so we decided to go with FROAM. Would you have your radar on to be detecting subs or not? Because sometimes the commanders forget to do that.

Actually, I thought you were supporting the restoration coalition. Officially, my nation is a member of them. Unofficially I am supporting Enu Mashe.
Uiri
05-09-2008, 22:05
lol

Actually, Ustio North only got involved because the Freedom Coalition passed a motion to intervene on FROAM's side. Expect a few more people to join on FROAM's side. Anyhow, would your SONAR/RADAR/Sub-Detecting Equipment be on or can my sub fire the first shot?
Red Tide2
05-09-2008, 23:56
lol

Actually, Ustio North only got involved because the Freedom Coalition passed a motion to intervene on FROAM's side. Expect a few more people to join on FROAM's side. Anyhow, would your SONAR/RADAR/Sub-Detecting Equipment be on or can my sub fire the first shot?

Who uses RADAR to detect submerged submarines?

Anyhow, there is not an 'on' or 'off' for SONAR, at least not for the passive variety. Active SONAR works much like RADAR, except instead of radio-waves they use 'sound pings'. Passive SONAR is simply microphones that listen for the sounds of a propeller or waterjet.

There are going to be constant patrols by ASW helicopters dropping active SONAR buoys and my destroyers and frigates have both passive and active towed-SONAR arrays.

EDIT: Also, if FROAM starts to look like it will win, it is highly concievable that my nation will drop Enu Munashe like a rock and strike a deal with FROAM and the Freedom Coalition. My nation's two primary goals when meddling in other states affairs are:

A. Gain natural resources that can not be obtained at home.
B. Gain basing rights so as to further the ability to project power.

If you guys can satisfy one or both of those AND start to look like a winning bet, then expect my nation to enter secret talks with the FC.
Uiri
06-09-2008, 00:24
Well, my levelling of a city of 280,000 might not go over so well with the natives. Do you happen to operate Dassault Rafales by any chance? lol

OK, I'll get working on a post. If anyone wants to RP resistance in Oranjemund (my first land target) go ahead, but just to warn you, it is mostly houses (Google Maps is useful) with a few large (as in wide and long) buildings. Its of 11,000 and a diamond mining city (Wikipedia is also useful). If no one has a problem with me going through and putting in, say, 300 to hold the city then thats OK too. It is in Enu Mashe territory so it is ok if some militiamen show up (RPed by you Red Tide).

Sub battle to start too, expect my CVBG to interfere promptly though.
Red Tide2
06-09-2008, 00:55
My fleet is several days away, so you would be engaging the real Restoration Forces fleet, not mine. And no, I do not operate Rafale's, my nation uses modified Russian-equipment (for air superiority fighters and helicopters) and custom equipment (for everything else).
Uiri
06-09-2008, 01:28
OK. Well, since you are technically supporting Enu Mashe, I suppose you are RPing his militia so feel free to show up in Oranjemund. I will post around 2 or 3 in the afternoon UTC and will just take the city if you don't want to RP a battle there.
Angenteria
06-09-2008, 01:52
So there's no confusion, I'm landing just north of Swakopmund.
Uiri
06-09-2008, 19:36
Miamoria - One liners and two liners aren't going to cut it.
Alliance Star
06-09-2008, 22:49
Agreed. Please augment the post, please.

Angenteria: I'll be landing in Walvisbaai, just 22 miles south of you. Since you haven't registered your IFF as friendly, nor use the general colors for the original landing, we're going assume you hostile. If I were you, I'd identify as soon as possible.
Angenteria
06-09-2008, 23:33
Alliance Star, did you send the identification colors to our governments directly?
Alliance Star
07-09-2008, 00:22
Yes. A red square, similar to to this (http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a350/SWATguy528/?action=view&current=zyz2.jpg) note the orange throughout the HMMWV. Along with our plans and objectives. Any questions about them can be asked any time, as ICly, all friendly nations listed as such to the Alliance Star Confederation is receiving that information.

Note that the colors will change every week, from having other factions attempt to mask themselves.
Kirav
07-09-2008, 01:11
I'm requesting permission to participate on the side of FRAMM.

I will be sending ground forces of up to 20,000-30,000 to support the Uir-led Freedom Coalition, well...coalition.

I control a colony called Austroafrica that is contiguous with South Africa. The forces will be sent into Aricania(as Namibia) from there.
Uiri
07-09-2008, 01:39
How did Chernobl make his post disappear without a trace?

FROAM, Kirav, FROAM. It sounds better. Anyhow, Ustio and I have landed and I assume, captured, Oranjemund, a settlement at the mouth of the Orange River. AS, how many dead and such shall we say for Windhoek, my bombings would probably be finished by now. If over 10 pounds per inhabitant doesn't level the city, I don't know what will.

Also, I will target your ships with my subs, Angenteria.
Angenteria
07-09-2008, 02:21
That's cool. How many subs are you using?
Alliance Star
07-09-2008, 08:58
Angenteria: You can use red tape or canvas, since we'll change colors every week.

Uiri: I thought I posted that. Well, lets say, 21,200 Civilian, 1,430 Enu Governmental Forces, and 147 UOL Militia. Since you took on buildings, vehicles were left unharmed.

Kirav: I need an ORBAT, not just a number. ^_^
Uiri
07-09-2008, 12:59
Angenteria: 2 attack subs

AS: Well, I launched 6,000 bombs. If there are 6,000 buildings in the city, ok. If there are less than that then the pilots would've started to target anything which hasn't bee destroyed. Also keep in mind it went tallest to smallest so the early bombardments would've toppled skyscrapers, etc. So how many inhabitants are left in the city?
Santheres
07-09-2008, 21:42
Alright, just gotta say sorry for disappearing, I seem to have missed some stuff and been doing nothing. I'll move up to having the paratroopers get to their business. Uiri, 1,500 Rangers will be on foot coming your way, so if you post before I do and it's relevant, feel free to receive news of it and whatnot.
Alliance Star
07-09-2008, 22:32
Uiri: 127,000 overall, including the three years of conflict and recent bombings.
Alliance Star
08-09-2008, 04:15
Angenteria: What is the INS Retribution? Carrier? And if so, what class?
Daiwiz
08-09-2008, 12:48
Hello. I have been drafted by order of my fellow alliance members :) Uiri, and such. Would you mind if I join? I will probably only be able to post once a day, because of school. Please respond to wether you would allow me. If so, I will post my ORBAT.
Alliance Star
09-09-2008, 01:00
Daiwiz: I'd just need an ORBAT, but if your Alliance asks for you, then hop in.
Angenteria
09-09-2008, 04:11
Alliance Star: Sorry about that. The INS Retribution is the fleet supercarrier, and is a modified Nimitz-Class. Sorry.
Daiwiz
09-09-2008, 04:22
Alright then. It is very late (Stupid homework :mad: ) and so I have to post my ORBAT tommorrow. It will consist of naval vessels mostly, including my new Kratik class aircraft carrier. A collosel beast :) I will also include a small land, and air force. I will be supporting FROAM, because of the alliance.
Alliance Star
09-09-2008, 04:31
Angenteria: It's too late for that now. I'll start helping out.

Daiwiz: No worries.
Santheres
09-09-2008, 07:55
Okay, finally figured out my nation's fleets, so here's the prospective ORBAT for the group involved:

Anerio House Fleet assets are mobilized; they have two CVBGs at their disposal and are dispatching one first to Austroafrican waters.

CVBG makeup -
1 Cavour carrier - MMS Anerio
CVW: 30 AV-8Bs
10 Rinascimento (FREMM)
2 Anti-air
3 Anti-sub
5 general purpose
3 Horizon AA
3 Durand de la Penne guided missile cruisers
2 Sauro IV submarine

Accompanying will be the House's only Savina-class arsenal (low-profile, stealthy, and double-hulled, controlled remotely, 300 vertical launch bays) for use in case of fleet emergency.
Uiri
09-09-2008, 20:34
Ustio - I thought we were moving East to meet up with Santherese Rangers, not towards Luderitz. Also, you missed a couple radio transmissions - one from my jets to your bomber to change to bombing Luderitz and another about bombing the Markianan Corps.
Ustio North
09-09-2008, 21:41
Oh right, I'll change my post accordingly.
Daiwiz
10-09-2008, 03:57
All right, a good amount for my forces. This is only the sea forces, and I will provide links to the stats tommorrow.

OBAT:
4x End All class battleships
1x Kratik class super-carrier
12x Graith class frigates
500x Dr'klow class PT boats
10x Barracudaa class submarines
1x Ohio class SSBN (carries 4 ballistic missiles, not very powerful.)
6x Bayern class dreadnoughts
uncertain number of landing craft
2x CVLs (20 fighters each)

This is the navy. I will specify how many landing craft, once I decide on the number of sea-borne troops. I will include fighters, transports, light bombers, helicopters, and UAVs within my airforce. Will comeplete this tommorrow.
Alliance Star
10-09-2008, 09:14
Daiwiz: Welcome! Updating front page, in due time.
Uiri
10-09-2008, 13:40
AS - My subs are nuclear subs and they use pumpjet propulsion. They are very quiet. Just saying because I don't really have time to read your entire post I have to go.

Markiana - What am I supposed to respond to that?

Santheres - I assume our troops will be going to your base then?
Il Korea
10-09-2008, 14:38
The Republic of Il Korea would like to get involved in the situation. We are offering our support to Uiri, and will be sending the following:

Navy

1x Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier
----30x F-18c Hornets
----10x F-35 Lighting II
5x Tarawa Class Assault Ship
10x Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers


Marines

1st Marine Expeditionary Unit (2,500 Marines)
----10 M1A1 Abrams Tanks
----25 LAV-25
----20 AAV-7A1
----100 HMMWV
----2500 M16A3 Assault Rifles
----60 M198 Howitzers
----Rations for 6 Months


2nd Marine Division (15,000 Marines)
----120 M1A1 Abrams Tanks
----120 LAV-25
----90 AAV-7A1
----15,000 M16A3 Assault Rifles
----600 HMMWV
----300 M809 5 Ton Truck
----150 MK48/A1
----Rations for 6 Months

1st Marine Airwing (1,250 Marines)
--20x F-18c
--10x AV-B Harrier I
--5x C-130 Hercules
--20x AH-1 Cobra
--5x CH-46 Sea Knight
--5x CH-53 Sea Stallion
--2x MV-22 Osprey


Army

1st Cavalry Division (20,000 Soldiers)
----180 M1A1 Tanks
----500 HMMWV
----20,000 M4-Carbines
----50 M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles
----200 M809 5 Ton Truck
Markiana
10-09-2008, 18:30
Respond to what??
Uiri
10-09-2008, 20:58
Your post. I don't know if you've noticed, but I'm launching bombing raids with 40 500 lb laser guided general purpose bombs on your position every hour in-game.

Il Korea - land your forces at Oranjemund airport.
Santheres
10-09-2008, 21:05
Uiri: Ustio said base, and I have more troops arriving from the air later today (3 hours or so is just short of 24 hours since the last post and planes don't take that long to get from a South America analog to Africa). At the risk of wasting time traversing the country twice, we could wait for Santherese mechanized infantry and light armor.

SHS will be arriving, too, but that's not a military concern. That just makes us look good for having humanitarian aid people all over the place.

Ustio: I do believe Markiana is spinning the air attack for propaganda purposes.

Edit: or on to Windhoek, that would make it possible for reinforcements to link up along the way, or be just behind what we have now.
Sirunia
10-09-2008, 21:15
Im in interested in joining could someone keep me informed.
Uiri
10-09-2008, 21:49
Sirunia - I'll give you a summary of what is going on right now:

There is a sea battle between my subs and Angeneteria's big ships.
There is a battle between my bombers and Markiana's ground froces in Luderitz
Miamoria, Daiwiz and Il Korea (?) will be landing troops in Oranjemund.
Santheres will be landing troops in Keetmanshoop or a city with a name similiar to that.
Ustio North, Santheres and I have just had our troops meet up and we are moving them towards Windhoek
I am bombing Windhoek (again)
Angenteria, Alliance Star and Red Tide (?) have landed troops.
Ustio is intercepting interceptors with escorts and is helping my Luderitz bombings.

Did I miss anything?

Santheres: I assume that it will take about a day to reach Windhoek from our present location so we will be coming right after my second bombing.
Santheres
10-09-2008, 23:53
Perfect timing, then. And gives enough time for my mech division to form up. Now to remind myself how many there are....

Also, can I assume that any further airborne resources will be escorted into Arcicana proper?
Ustio North
11-09-2008, 00:02
Well, the rest of my troops will fly in. Uiri, my Corvettes are attacking the AS carrier.
Il Korea
11-09-2008, 00:15
The 17,500 Marines and 20,000 Soldiers landed near Oranjemund, with air support provided from above. The convoy of M1A1 Abrams Tanks, LAV - 25s, M2 Bradleys and Amphibious Assault Vehicles traveled to the location to meet up with any other allied forces.
Santheres
11-09-2008, 00:40
Ah, read the first post and everything again, IK. Things are being done in real-time. That's a shitload of planes, especially since you can get, what, one or two MBTs in the largest air transports? (I haven't looked it up in forever, so I don't remember.) It's an enormous operation and would take days to handle effectively and get all your troops on the ground without major incident, I would think.

And air support is iffy if they're ours; fighters can't fly that far on their own, much less while still being combat-ready.

I'd suggest sending the troops in smaller increments if you're not doing it by sea (which would take a lot longer for arrival).

Plus, you posted in the wrong thread, didn't say enough, and haven't given a detailed enough ORBAT.
Il Korea
11-09-2008, 00:42
My mistake...there's so many different posts on this forum it's hard to find the topic sometimes...go to the previous page in this thread and then read the orbat.
Santheres
11-09-2008, 00:45
Heh, sorry about the ORBAT comment, I hadn't seen that post!
Il Korea
11-09-2008, 00:47
No problem, I get into this thing kind of late, and to be honest I am just now reading the actual IC thread so I am trying to find where this oranje whataya call it place is lol that way I can figure out where and how to land my troops.
Santheres
11-09-2008, 01:01
Try googling another map of Namibia that has a lot of cities on it. I do believe Oranjemund is at the southern end of the coast somewhere.
Alliance Star
11-09-2008, 02:45
Il Korea: It's pretty, south. I'll see you there soon. :P

Anyway, welcome, and accepted. One of these days, I might actually work on the front page. IC post coming eventually.

Also, Ustio North. You're like 400+ miles away from me. You're shooting at, erm. Water. If you check those Coordinates I so love to use, I'm really, REALLY far away from you.

Your alliance has me needing more allies.
Ustio North
11-09-2008, 08:56
Il Korea: It's pretty, south. I'll see you there soon. :P

Anyway, welcome, and accepted. One of these days, I might actually work on the front page. IC post coming eventually.

Also, Ustio North. You're like 400+ miles away from me. You're shooting at, erm. Water. If you check those Coordinates I so love to use, I'm really, REALLY far away from you.

Your alliance has me needing more allies.

But you're assuming that the Corvettes have stayed with the CBG all the time. In fact, if you check an earlier post, they broke away from the CBG and headed off on their own. But, if it'll make you happy, i've changed it so they're still on their way there.
Angenteria
11-09-2008, 20:08
Uiri: Vectors are like angles. We fired our torps at different angles, because we knew you were moving right after you fired
Uiri
11-09-2008, 21:47
Well, its a 3-D space so along which two axises?
Daiwiz
13-09-2008, 00:40
Sorry for taking awhile, my net was down. I'm back, and my ground/air ORBAT is as follows:

Ground:

2 divisions of USSDMC (Marines) composed of 12,500 troops each. Includes staff and enlisted soldiers.
1 Division of USSDAC (Armored Cavalry) composed of 10,000 vehicles, and troops. Includes support staff, tanks, APCs, IFVs, soldiers, and transport.

Airforce:

200x F-35 Lightning IIs
110x AV-8B Harrier IIs
30x Huey attack helicopters
25x NHI-NH90 Helicopters
40x UH-63 Flying Tubs
48x Commanchee attack helicopters


More will follow as needed. I will also specify how many of each unit later. This is just to let you know what I've got. If you do not know some of the weapons, check The Universal Defence (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Universal_Defense/index.php?act=idx) storefront. The list of vehicles/weapons is as follows:

AK-113 combat rifle
MP8 PDW machine pistol
MP5K-N sub-machine gun
G-37 assault rifle
MG7 machine gun
XM410 heavy machine gun
M315 machine gun
M16A5 combat rifle
HK XM29 SABR OICWs advanced assault rifle
PanzerFaust 4T recoilless gun
PanzerFaust BunkerFaust
MG-G 2 grenade machine gun

A plethora of rifles are armed with the GLARRM-37 grenade launcher.

Vehicles:

M80 Patton medium tank
M1A11 Brute MBT
T-11 light tank
M4A5/M5A5 Charleston APCs
SwimGragt amphibious jeep
Hummvee

I will gladly answer any questions on anything here. I will post my intro now.
Santheres
13-09-2008, 00:46
Unfortunately, AS is killing the RP due to lack of time. Check the IC thread if you've not just done so.

And that would have been a really over-kill detachment to send. You'd have had, like, twice the troops the rest of us were going to have!
Daiwiz
13-09-2008, 00:55
Oh, didn't realize that. Sorry, will cut down. I shall edit, and post again so as to let you know. Sorry for double posting for the future!
Daiwiz
13-09-2008, 00:57
Is this ok now? Or do I need to cut down more? Please let me know! I have only been a part of full scale wars, never peace keeping! Well, except Canedian, but he just decided to randomly nuke the shit out of me, and then use the rest on his ally...
Uiri
13-09-2008, 13:10
Daiwiz - the RP is dead. AS killed it.
Daiwiz
14-09-2008, 02:12
Damn. Sorry, I thought you meant it stagnated. Damn....Now I have to rely on Falks SKYNET venture, or 1936 to pick up...