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Official Falkasian Press Release

The People's Republic of Falkasia is proud to inform the world that it will begin contruction shortly, on what will become the world's tallest skyscraper. This building, recently dubbed the Kazyenko Independence Center in honor of our glorious leader, will dwarf every single one of it's competitors with it's gargantuan size. According to the lead designer and engineer, Johan Dimitriov, it is supposed be twice of the size of the UAE's Burj Dubai at a staggering 4013 feet. This monster of a building will have 396 floors and will sit in the middle of downtown Ekaterine.

To accomplish such a task, a new type of steel had to be created to support such an enormous burden. This metal, Titanium-Iron Composite Alloy 174, is not only capable of supporting such a giant load, but also exceeds the quality of much of the other types of steels produced elsewhere in the world. On the inside, the tower features floor-to-ceiling panoramic fiber-glass windows offering an unparalleled view of the city, luxurious suites for residents, and office space and layouts to meet every need. Besides that, the building also offers spacious amenities, such as plush lounges on every fifth (5th) floor and a rotating resturant midway through the building.

The Kazyenko Independence Hall is slated for completion within 4 years, and once constructed, will become the pinnacle of Falkasian splendor.

(OOC: IC responses are welcome!)

Message to Falkasian

We say yay to such an endeavor, And we will gladly send workers or any help we can

We appreciate the offer, but we would prefer to keep it Falkasian-made for the sake of national pride.

I see, well the offer is always there, and if I may ask, could we send some of our architects to see your Falkasia works, we would love to bring some of the designs to our nation

To: Falkasia
From: The Desk of Grand Commander GRIFFITH-II

The Spire, our capitol building, is taller. It measures in at over 9,000 feet tall, and measures a mile in width and height.

We would be more than happy for you to send one of your architects to view our building.

Then we shall, He is boarding a 757 as we speak, he shall see you there

To: Falkasia
From: The Desk of Grand Commander GRIFFITH-II

The Spire, our capitol building, is taller. It measures in at over 9,000 feet tall, and measures a mile in width and height.

OOC: Um, a 9000 foot tall building would be both technically and physically impossible to construct. A building of that scale would crumble underneath it's own weight no matter what was used to build it. That is, unless you used anti-matter or have found a way to alter physics.

OOC: Um, a 9000 foot tall building would be technically impossible. A building of that scale would crumble underneath it's own weight no matter what was used to build it. That is, unless you used anti-matter or have found a way to alter physics.

((OOC: Anti-matter would annihilate with normal matter, causing much worse problems than a building collapse.

The foundation of the Spire is a natural landform. That means Earth takes most of the pressure. I'm not an architect, but it IS possible to make a 9,000 foot tall building.))

((OOC: Yes, if about 3000 of those feet are a mountain. I'm an under-grad in Architectual Engineering School, so I think I should know. There is a certain height a building can extend too, no matter what materials are used (unless these materials have yet to be discovered), before it becomes just too heavy and collapses on itself. According to modern Newtonian physics, a building just right over 3000 feet tall would be too much and too heavy to stand against Earth's gravitional pull.

As for the anti-matter, it was a joke. Thought it would be funny to pop it in there.))

Depends if the building uses standing supports or you have a multiple foundations

Then we shall, He is boarding a 757 as we speak, he shall see you there

We'll be waiting for him. An entourage will be sent to escort him to the build site, where he'll be accomidated in the first completed level of the Tower.

OOC: Taller buildings exist IRL. Specifically, the Burj Dubai will be 2,600 feet when complete.

Allanea has two BD clones, actually.

Depends if the building uses standing supports or you have a multiple foundations

OOC: That it does. However, even with multiple foundations or standing supports, there is still a certain limit on how tall a building can be before it becomes to heavy and collapses on itself.

OOC: Taller buildings exist IRL. Specifically, the Burj Dubai will be 2,600 feet when complete.

Allanea has two BD clones, actually.

OOC: Oh, right. Forgot about those, lol. *Slaps back of head* Will edit appropriately, lol.
I'm an under-grad and forgot about those! How embarrassing, lol!

OOC: Isn't the Sears Tower #5 (finished -- Burj Dubai and a couple others will naturally move it down) and 1451 feet? I also believe "a quarter the size" would make it smaller.... And "a quarter again," 125% the size, is only 1814.

And yeah ... 9000 feet? That has got to be insanity.

IC:

Santheres looks forward to seeing the results of Falkasia's product. Though we are not a fan of this contest that boils down to what is precisely a phallus measurement competition, what is built from it are frequently buildings we would be proud to host in our own sky cities (albeit, shorter versions thereof). Good luck in your endeavor; we hope your architects do you proud.

OOC: Isn't the Sears Tower #5 (finished -- Burj Dubai and a couple others will naturally move it down) and 1451 feet? I also believe "a quarter the size" would make it smaller.... And "a quarter again," 125% the size, is only 1814.

And yeah ... 9000 feet? That has got to be insanity.

IC:

Santheres looks forward to seeing the results of Falkasia's product. Though we are not a fan of this contest that boils down to what is precisely a phallus measurement competition, what is built from it are frequently buildings we would be proud to host in our own sky cities (albeit, shorter versions thereof). Good luck in your endeavor; we hope your architects do you proud.

OOC: Yea, I have to agree. It is quite misleading. The wording has been fixed.

IC:
The People's Republic of Falkasia greatly appreciates your support and compliments for our project. It is truely a momentous task that requires all the luck and support we can get. If you so wish, you may send an architect to view the construction, and possibly bring back helpful information for assembling similar highrises in your sky cities.

You've never heard of a space elevator have you?

[OOC: You're not a physicist, are you Binaria? A space elevator is not a "building" in the sense of the word.]

Greal's tallest building is currently 3,852 feet. Its currently based in Sasha. It also has two other buildings next to it that are the same height. These three buildings are known as the Bill Watson towers. Our architects are more then happy to help you with this new building.

[OOC: You're not a physicist, are you Binaria? A space elevator is not a "building" in the sense of the word.]

Shh. Don't tell him that.

We are not a fan of this contest that boils down to what is precisely a phallus measurement competition.

OOC:


LOLS!

Moral of the story: NEVER try and be the biggest/best/tallest/longest/first/fattest/etc. etc. on NS.

[OOC: Someone is going to build a building out of enriched uranium...]

(OOC: It's not an arcology. But I can't compare because Third Spanish States timeline I current RP is a post Peak Oil 2039. Nor I care to compare Confederacy arcologies with it. What matters is the symbolic value of a building, not its size)

[occ: do you have an embassy thread? (I'm trying to expand diplomatic relations)]

Dear Falkasia,

The Republic of Ark Ivira is applauding your technological strives in architecture and engineering. Our President Alexander Smith has taken a considerable intrest in the project, So much so that he is enquiring whether there are any residences available (In future, of course). We would be glad to hear of any further progress through the building.

Sincerely,
Elizabeth J. Shevaire
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Well The new Bulgislavian democratic transitional government wishes good luck on this project.

Under the old communist regime we tried to embark on a large building in Terevesti with construction begining in 1983. In the 1980's the economy started to decline and the finish date was pushed back to 1989. Then with the collapse of other communist nations construction came to a complete halt and still a skeleton structure remains in Terevesti to this day, still un complete and still a symbol of the failure of our old system

Under the communist government post cards falsly showed that tower illuminated to give outsiders the impression we had finished the tower then by the new millenium were we so embarrased by it it never featured in any future post card or was airbrushed out all together

We wish you luck and unlike the Bulgislavian experience we are sure you WILL complete your project

OOC: Depends what kind of ground your building on for a building to succeed. Just look at Hitler's planes for Germania. It was going to be massive but the sheer height and weight of the buildings such as the Volkshalle on the swampy ground of Berlin would mean the eventual collapse of the city within a few decades.

Moral of the story: NEVER try and be the biggest/best/tallest/longest/first/fattest/etc. etc. on NS.

OOC: Hey now, being first has nothing to do with a penis.

IC:

To: Falkasia

We would be delighted to have someone present during construction. It may very well be that, should we find your construction appealing to Santherese tastes, a similar tower at the standard ~1500 feet of the sky city complexes may be built. At the very least, it will provide a good experience and possibly ideas for whoever wins the privilege to be such a witness.

OOC: The Falkasian structure does not claim the title of the NS world's largest building by a long shot.
See
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=375082
and
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=377139
for possible candidates

also
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=380822 for a warning of what a "tallest building contest" will devolve into!

ooc: Very embarrassing indeed.

Tourists in Miskonia can't wait to visit the Kazyenko Independence Center. (Maybe because they can't wait to get out of Miskonia in the first place lol.)

[occ: do you have an embassy thread? (I'm trying to expand diplomatic relations)]

Dear Falkasia,

The Republic of Ark Ivira is applauding your technological strives in architecture and engineering. Our President Alexander Smith has taken a considerable interest in the project, so much so that he is enquiring whether there are any residences available (In future, of course). We would be glad to hear of any further progress through the building.

Sincerely,
Elizabeth J. Shevaire
Minister of Foreign Affairs

OOC: No right now, but there will be one soon when I finally get around to do it.

IC:
The People's Republic of Falkasia greatly appreciates your support for this massive endeavor being udnertaken by the Falkasian people. As for inquiring about the residences, there is an available penthouse suite on the 2nd level, of which is going to be completed by the end of the week.

Again, we thank you for your support and look forward to hearing from you!

Well The new Bulgislavian democratic transitional government wishes good luck on this project.

Under the old communist regime we tried to embark on a large building in Terevesti with construction begining in 1983. In the 1980's the economy started to decline and the finish date was pushed back to 1989. Then with the collapse of other communist nations construction came to a complete halt and still a skeleton structure remains in Terevesti to this day, still un complete and still a symbol of the failure of our old system

Under the communist government post cards falsly showed that tower illuminated to give outsiders the impression we had finished the tower then by the new millenium were we so embarrased by it it never featured in any future post card or was airbrushed out all together

We wish you luck and unlike the Bulgislavian experience we are sure you WILL complete your project

The Falkasian Government sincerely thanks you for your support. A project of this scale needs all the compliments it can get!

OOC: Hey now, being first has nothing to do with a penis.

IC:

To: Falkasia

We would be delighted to have someone present during construction. It may very well be that, should we find your construction appealing to Santherese tastes, a similar tower at the standard ~1500 feet of the sky city complexes may be built. At the very least, it will provide a good experience and possibly ideas for whoever wins the privilege to be such a witness.

We'll be waiting for you. An entourage will be sent to meet the architect at the airport, where he/she will be escorted to the build site and lodged in the Ritz-Carlton Ekaterine only a block away.
Again, it is an honor to host a representative from your nation.

Is this not modding? assuming that others buildings are all smaller?

OOC:It depends. You have to RP it correctly, otherwise it is. You need to state exactly how tall it is.

IC:
The USSD applauds the Falkasian intinuity! We wish to send any supplies which you need to complete this great endeavour. Our nations have been good friends for many years, and we beleive that to get something in return, we must first give. We would enquire that perhaps an ambassador could stay in this soon to be magnificent building, so as to ease political difficulties.

Graith Dr'klow

We would be most pleased to host an ambassador from your nation inside our greatest accomplishment, once it is completed.

Bump to prove that my record stands.

OOC:It appears you have a competitor O.o sorta

OOC: This "competitor" is around 2000 meters short of the big-time.

OOC: I'll help him make it bigger. ie, give him a couple million peices of lego as he said the building is like lego :)

OOC: Lol. Yea, that's what all buildings are made out of. My Kazyenko Implosion Tower is 4 stories, made out of over a billion 4x2 lego bricks!

OOC:Lmfao :D That's what I was planning to do. now die!:sniper:

As I posted on 27-08-2008, 02:37
OOC: The Falkasian structure does not claim the title of the NS world's largest building by a long shot.
See
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=375082
and
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=377139
for possible candidates

also
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=380822 for a warning of what a "tallest building contest" will devolve into!

you do not have the record, and never did

Actually, TPM, I'm fairly sure the smokestack does not fit criteria for the tallest building. Nycton, however, would win but well, is he ever around anymore? I think not being on II anymore matters for something.

Those were just two of earliest examples that could be linked. Just about every 3 months someone makes a new one. Just search "tallest building".

9000 ft tall, a mile+ wide..I guess I was wrong, NS wankfest really doesn't have a limit in its levels of ridiculousness, foolishness and/or down right stupidity. Guess that's how it goes when people get all of their ideas from video games and movies. At least people could claim to be FT or mid PMT instead of saying their MT with laser intercepting ICBM systems in space and 9000 ft tall buildings lulz , at least then their wanks into their obscene ideas for equipment or technology wouldn't be so bad.

and TPM, that ozone tower would topple when the wind blew, not to mention its built in arctic conditions which would mean if by some feat of god it was built it would have to withstand the constant -0 temperatures, arctic winds. Which (currently) there isn't a building material available that could sustain itself through those extremes and support anything that tall.

The other "record" tower doesn't list enough details to even tell if it would be plausible, although I suppose if it mirrored something similar to a real office building it would at least look doable. Although I don't know of any current building materials that would be able to sustain a structure 4000 ft high.

OOC:

What exactly is the problem? Is there a good reason for you to come in and attack another person's project? Just ignore it if you don't find it reasonable, FFS. It's not like it affects your nation in any way, shape, or form. Besides, 2,745 meters is not that tall considering the fact that there's been plans IRL for taller and wider building than this, that they haven't been built is another issue altogether.

ooc:I wasn't talking about Falks plans, I was referring to all of the examples listed or given as being the "real record holders" which wouldn't be feasible at all.

OOC:Unkerlantum, on NS you can do anything. Simple as that. I mean, everyone has solid gold objects, when there isn't even enough gold that's been mined in the history of mankind to do so. Look at how often nukes are used, or that even though space is supposed to be neutral, we send weapons up anyways. Or that people often colonize the moon. Your imaginations the limit, and how you explain it is the tool. Also, people have already pointed out multiple flaws in those designs in the threads for those buildings, and in other threads unrelated. So why bring that up again.

OOC: A point must be made, never claim to be building the biggest, or tallest, of something as you will only cause a spiral of counter claims and others building even more impressive structures.

OOC: A point must be made, never claim to be building the biggest, or tallest, of something as you will only cause a spiral of counter claims and others building even more impressive structures.

oooc: yes, yes, a point must be made these arogant players must be taught a lesson, their folly must not stand. Together we will teach them through ooc recrimination that imagination is wrong; that they must only imagine plausible things if they want to play with others...

or not. Seriously a single player isnt going to be an expert on everything but the things that they're into, well they naturally want to put that to use. Like Falk, he said he was interested in archetecture or was astudent engineer or some such right?

Though we are not a fan of this contest that boils down to what is precisely a phallus measurement competition....
A completely unrelated bit of trivia: Fatatatutti claims the world's narrowest coal mine.

A completely unrelated bit of trivia: Fatatatutti claims the world's narrowest coal mine.

Really, because I heard in the bureau of measurements that your mines aren't so narrow... and that you'll export it to anyone.

OOC: Yea, I'm a Structural Engineering Minor in College, with a Political Science Major.

Really, because I heard in the bureau of measurements that your mines aren't so narrow... and that you'll export it to anyone.

The both of you each win. Just thought you should know, in case you were unaware.

OOC:Unkerlantum, on NS you can do anything. Simple as that. I mean, everyone has solid gold objects, when there isn't even enough gold that's been mined in the history of mankind to do so. Look at how often nukes are used, or that even though space is supposed to be neutral, we send weapons up anyways. Or that people often colonize the moon. Your imaginations the limit, and how you explain it is the tool. Also, people have already pointed out multiple flaws in those designs in the threads for those buildings, and in other threads unrelated. So why bring that up again.

Well NS also has undefined rules like MT nations don't have colonies on mars, or ICBM intercepting space based lasers etc. Thus why when a MT nation claims to have a space elevator etc it is annoying, poor form, and needs correcting.

OOC: Well, with my BI-series satellites, they are far more plausible than a space elevator. I would give you the rundown right here on how they work, and how easy it would be for RL nations to do it; had the the adequete funds and support.

OOC: Falk, the US is actually building things very similar to your BI satellites. They are also mounting three lasers in Boeings to do testing, and what happens is thus: The first laser locks onto the target, painting it, the second measures speed, range, etc etc, and the third heats it up until it explodes. Simple as that :) So, I have actually beaten you with RL stuff :D

Unkerlatum: you lose, I win, now I'm gonna go celebrate (I never win...) Besides, how can you follow rules unless they are written down somewhere?

OOC: A point must be made, never claim to be building the biggest, or tallest, of something as you will only cause a spiral of counter claims and others building even more impressive structures.

This is what I've been getting at, for the past year.