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The Imbrinium ministry of defense is looking to buy 25 square miles of coastline with a natural harbor to place a naval base. These naval bases will be used to resupply, refit and repair of naval ships and have a Maritime Prepositioning Force operating out of these bases. This force is a ready supply force to support Amphibious Landing forces in the case of war. If your country would like to lease or sale this land to us please contact us.

Country with land for sale or leasing?

Your level diplomac relations with our country?

The cost for the land?

Are you opposed to having nuclear weapons on ships in or around your country?

Do you want a joint naval base with us?

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The Allied States of Gun Manufacturers would be interested in working with the Imbrinium Royal Navy to construct an artificial island appropriate for their needs. The ASoGM has experience in constructing artificial islands, as we have created the Five Finger islands previously, each totaling 30,000 acres. 25 square miles is equal to 16,000 acres, and would be well within the capabilities of the experienced ASoGM civil engineers to construct. If you are interested, the cost will be $100 billion.

The Isolantionist Kewen Anarchist Leauge offers its chain of 9 Islands with a total land size of 1/2 of japan, it has many natural harbours and resides 1010kms away from Iron bay on our western coast.

We are willing to lease this chain of islands to you, please place you bids and we do not have many problems with nucllear weapons or ships in those chains but request a kewen overseer if one is located in this area assuming you choose to accept our offer.


Your level diplomac relations with our country: N/A

The cost for the land: accepting bids

Are you opposed to having nuclear weapons on ships in or around your country: no not really.

Do you want a joint naval base with us:If your government thinks it would be a wise move then yes.

To: Imbrinium Ministry of Defense
From: The Kingdom of Grasaland, Ministry of Defence

The Grasalandik Proposal for the 25 square miles of coastline with a natural harbor to place a naval base.

We propose leasing a joint naval base at HMNB Oslo Cove, This naval base is located in a large natural harbour, surronded by a large cliffs creating one of the largest fjords in our country. The base is one of the 18 operational naval bases for the Royal Grasalandik Navy.

Already our two countries have diplomatic relations and our ambassador Mrs Dawn Portor will surely be pleased to further talks on our part.

The Ministry of Defence does not support any nuclear weapons due to the 1968 Atomic Nuetrality Bill, and this also applies to any military arm on Grasalandik soil.

We have estimated that this Joint Venture will cost annually; $8.65 Billion USD

We await your reply

Phillip Naslund
Secretary of Foreign Affairs

Johna Erikson
Secretary of Defence & Homeland Security

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The Imbrinium Ministry of Defence

The Discidium acknowledges your recent interest in the leasing of a naval facility, and we would gladly accomodate your interests.
We offer two sites of interest:

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1 - Dardanelles Naval Operations Base, located at the mouth of the Dardanelles entrance (brown dot on map).
2 - Imperial Naval Facility, located at the Bosphorus Straits (red dot on map, would be joint-naval base with the Hellenic Navy)

The former location can be leased for the price of 8 bill. USD per annum, and the latter 20 bill. USD per annum, mobility and establishment costs inclusive.

We fully agree to the terms and conditions set by the nation of Imbrinium, and we put forth only this regulation; that the Imperial Commonwealth of the Byzantine Discidium reserves the right to severe your lease at any time and for any reason deemed significant enough by the Basileus, Grand Vizierate or Military High Command.

Signed,

Decimus Aurelius

Imperium Magister Militum Capital
Imperial Commonwealth of the Byzantine Discidium

Counter-signed,

Mustafa Reis bin Mehmed

Grand Vizier
Imperial Commonwealth of the Byzantine Discidium

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To: Imbrinium Ministry of Defense
From: The Kingdom of Grasaland, Ministry of Defence

The Grasalandik Proposal for the 25 square miles of coastline with a natural harbor to place a naval base.

We propose leasing a joint naval base at HMNB Oslo Cove, This naval base is located in a large natural harbour, surronded by a large cliffs creating one of the largest fjords in our country. The base is one of the 18 operational naval bases for the Royal Grasalandik Navy.

Already our two countries have diplomatic relations and our ambassador Mrs Dawn Portor will surely be pleased to further talks on our part.

The Ministry of Defence does not support any nuclear weapons due to the 1968 Atomic Nuetrality Bill, and this also applies to any military arm on Grasalandik soil.

We have estimated that this Joint Venture will cost annually; $8.65 Billion USD

We await your reply

Phillip Naslund
Secretary of Foreign Affairs

Johna Erikson
Secretary of Defence & Homeland Security

To:The Kingdom of Grasaland, Ministry of Defence

From: The Kingdom of Imbrinium, Ministry of Defense

While we are really looking hard into your proposal. We do have some questions.

1. Does the 1968 Atomic Nuetrality bill mean that Nuclear arms can not be on military ships in port not being stored onland?

2. Does the 1968 Atomic Neutrality bill mean that foreign weapons or troops cannot be stationed in ports or on land?

(Our MPF will carry weapons and ammo, food,fuel,tanks,trucks etc. everything you would need to supply an army.)

While not all of our combat vessels carry nuclear weapons some do and from time to time need to repair, refuel etc. by no means would any nuclear weapon be take off any ship for any reason and placed on foreign soil it is against our laws also but the placement of nuclear arms in friendly waters of a foreign nation onto another ship is premited. But rarely done only in emergencies and or war.

please do your best a thinking about and anwering our questions and getting back to us. thank you.

Demi Efthalia
The Kingdom of Imbrinium, Ministry of Defense

The Imbrinium ministry of defense is looking to buy 25 square miles of coastline with a natural harbor to place a naval base. These naval bases will be used to resupply, refit and repair of naval ships and have a Maritime Prepositioning Force operating out of these bases. This force is a ready supply force to support Amphibious Landing forces in the case of war. If your country would like to lease or sale this land to us please contact us.

Country with land for sale or leasing?

Your level diplomac relations with our country?

The cost for the land?

Are you opposed to having nuclear weapons on ships in or around your country?

Do you want a joint naval base with us?

The Navy of Gibberish America would like to share the Circum-Pacific Naval Base at Lord Roberts Air Base with the Royal Imbrinium Navy, leasing a 25 square mile archipelago for $500 million a year. We are allies and participating in an embassy exchange, and we do not mind nuclear weapons in or around the country as long they are not aimed at us.

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The Holy Empire of Anemos Major, Holy Office of War
We are prepared to loan you the Naval Island Citadel of Savronin, located 960 miles off the coast of Anemos Major. Savronin was last used during the 1934-1940 Civil War, and was the second Citadel of its kind. However, it was abandoned in favour of the next generation citadels. Most of its structures are still intact, and we would be pleased to help repair it. However, to ensure our own safety we will need to sign a military treaty AND no nuclear weapons are allowed on the island (unless arranged with the Holy Office of the High Lord).

To:The Kingdom of Grasaland, Ministry of Defence

From: The Kingdom of Imbrinium, Ministry of Defense

While we are really looking hard into your proposal. We do have some questions.

1. Does the 1968 Atomic Nuetrality bill mean that Nuclear arms can not be on military ships in port not being stored onland?

2. Does the 1968 Atomic Neutrality bill mean that foreign weapons or troops cannot be stationed in ports or on land?

(Our MPF will carry weapons and ammo, food,fuel,tanks,trucks etc. everything you would need to supply an army.)

While not all of our combat vessels carry nuclear weapons some do and from time to time need to repair, refuel etc. by no means would any nuclear weapon be take off any ship for any reason and placed on foreign soil it is against our laws also but the placement of nuclear arms in friendly waters of a foreign nation onto another ship is premited. But rarely done only in emergencies and or war.

please do your best a thinking about and anwering our questions and getting back to us. thank you.

Demi Efthalia
The Kingdom of Imbrinium, Ministry of Defense

To: Demi Efthalia, The Kingdom of Imbrinium, Ministry of Defense

We thank you for your response and have begun to look into the questions that you so cleverly responsed with. A joint civil service and MP select committee has begun a full enquiry into the 1968 Atomic Neutrality bill.

Today as well in the Grasalandik Parliament the matter was discussed at length, the outcome of this debate raised several major points:

1. The Bill was written at the height of the cold war when Grasalandik defence was primary concern of the military. Because of our neutrailty in the world it was never considered that we would have foreign friendly forces in our territorial waters so this isn't covered in the bill. This means that although it would be illegal to have nuclear weapons on a HMNB like Oslo cove, it would not be illegal to have them on ships in the cove.

2. An answer to your second question concerning foreign troop deployments on Grasalandik soil was reached by the select committee who feel that this is a legal action. So this means that your Maritime Prepositioning Force could easily be garrisoned with our own Koninklijke Gräsalandik Corps Mariners (KGCM) (Royal Grasalandik Marine Corps (RGMC)).

Overall the debate highlighted a number of controversial issue over nuclear weapons and your base. There were several opposition MPs who highligthed the fact that your country has few political freedoms and is "run by a mostly-benevolent dictator". As well as this some Liberal MP's called for a Referendum on the issues and demonstrations were carried out outside the Parliament but this can only be expected when nuclear issues are at hand. But never-the-less the PM feels very strongly that this base would create a solid friendship between our nations and as currently our coalition has a majority of 58 seats and we feel that we have the political power to force through legislation to allow nuclear weapons to be stored / placed on your ships in our terriotal waters but not on our soil.

We await your reply

Phillip Naslund
Secretary of Foreign Affairs

To: Demi Efthalia, The Kingdom of Imbrinium, Ministry of Defense

We thank you for your response and have begun to look into the questions that you so cleverly responsed with. A joint civil service and MP select committee has begun a full enquiry into the 1968 Atomic Neutrality bill.

Today as well in the Grasalandik Parliament the matter was discussed at length, the outcome of this debate raised several major points:

1. The Bill was written at the height of the cold war when Grasalandik defence was primary concern of the military. Because of our neutrailty in the world it was never considered that we would have foreign friendly forces in our territorial waters so this isn't covered in the bill. This means that although it would be illegal to have nuclear weapons on a HMNB like Oslo cove, it would not be illegal to have them on ships in the cove.

2. An answer to your second question concerning foreign troop deployments on Grasalandik soil was reached by the select committee who feel that this is a legal action. So this means that your Maritime Prepositioning Force could easily be garrisoned with our own Koninklijke Gräsalandik Corps Mariners (KGCM) (Royal Grasalandik Marine Corps (RGMC)).

Overall the debate highlighted a number of controversial issue over nuclear weapons and your base. There were several opposition MPs who highligthed the fact that your country has few political freedoms and is "run by a mostly-benevolent dictator". As well as this some Liberal MP's called for a Referendum on the issues and demonstrations were carried out outside the Parliament but this can only be expected when nuclear issues are at hand. But never-the-less the PM feels very strongly that this base would create a solid friendship between our nations and as currently our coalition has a majority of 58 seats and we feel that we have the political power to force through legislation to allow nuclear weapons to be stored / placed on your ships in our terriotal waters but not on our soil.

We await your reply

Phillip Naslund
Secretary of Foreign Affairs

To: Phillip Naslund
Secretary of Foreign Affairs

From: Sir Konstantinos Stephanos
Prime Minister, The Kingdom of Imbrinium.

Thank you for replaying to our questions so quickly. The king has asked myself and my office to handle the rest of our talks about this issue. Our king wants the government and the people of The Kingdom of Grasaland that our country does not want to every have to use nuclear weapons, while only a few ships in our naval fleet carry nuclear weapons all the time they will and are not to be use unless it is a last defense of our homeland. We have uses them as a detertent in passed conflicts where nuclear weapons where used by waring countries as a show of force not to use nuclear weapons against us or each other. Our king is also concerned about the view of our country in your governments eyes. We are a nation of laws and the king doesn’t make the laws or enforces them we have a parliament that is voted on by the people to make and enforce our laws and our country is not a warmongering nation we prefer to use talks to settle disagreements. We do come to the help of our friends and allies and those who are being repressed by other nations. My king also would like for me to come to Grasaland to sign the papers for our base and to talk to your people and government as a show of goodwill and friendship. I hope we can become great friends in this endeavor and become stronger allies. Thank you.

Sir Konstantinos Stephanos
Prime Minister, The Kingdom of Imbrinium

OOC: You want to have a Thread where my pm comes and speaks to your nation and we could also talk about trade and maybe alliance?


OOC:

The Navy of Gibberish America would like to share the Circum-Pacific Naval Base at Lord Roberts Air Base with the Royal Imbrinium Navy, leasing a 25 square mile archipelago for $500 million a year. We are allies and participating in an embassy exchange, and we do not mind nuclear weapons in or around the country as long they are not aimed at us.

To: The Government of Gibberish America

From: The Ministery of Dfense

We would like to accept this offer, we will get back to you on a date and time to anounce what countries will get the bases.

MOD

Country with land for sale or leasing?

Free Republic of Lamoni; Land for sale.

Your level of diplomatic relations with our country?

None

The cost for the land?

A Non-Aggression Pact.

Are you opposed to having nuclear weapons on ships in or around your country?

We are not opposed as long as the weapons stay onboard the ships.

Do you want a joint naval base with us?

That would be ideal. At a minimum, we would request a Lamonian observer to be on the base at all times.

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The location of the base would be on the southern tip of the Lamonian island of Nephi, which is the large island to the west of the Lamonian mainland. It can be viewed from the following map:

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/locationlamoni.png

We would like to make Imbrinium Royal Navy aware of our standing offer for the lease of the Na Pali facility.

Country with land for sale or leasing?
The Phoenix Milita. Na Pali Naval Complex (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=370994) for lease

Your level of diplomatic relations with our country?

None at this time

The cost for the land?

Negotiable - see link

Are you opposed to having nuclear weapons on ships in or around your country?
No, in fact would you like to buy some?

Do you want a joint naval base with us?

Not necessary

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Please see link for more details.

To: Phillip Naslund
Secretary of Foreign Affairs

From: Sir Konstantinos Stephanos
Prime Minister, The Kingdom of Imbrinium.

Thank you for replaying to our questions so quickly. The king has asked myself and my office to handle the rest of our talks about this issue. Our king wants the government and the people of The Kingdom of Grasaland that our country does not want to every have to use nuclear weapons, while only a few ships in our naval fleet carry nuclear weapons all the time they will and are not to be use unless it is a last defense of our homeland. We have uses them as a detertent in passed conflicts where nuclear weapons where used by waring countries as a show of force not to use nuclear weapons against us or each other. Our king is also concerned about the view of our country in your governments eyes. We are a nation of laws and the king doesn’t make the laws or enforces them we have a parliament that is voted on by the people to make and enforce our laws and our country is not a warmongering nation we prefer to use talks to settle disagreements. We do come to the help of our friends and allies and those who are being repressed by other nations. My king also would like for me to come to Grasaland to sign the papers for our base and to talk to your people and government as a show of goodwill and friendship. I hope we can become great friends in this endeavor and become stronger allies. Thank you.

Sir Konstantinos Stephanos
Prime Minister, The Kingdom of Imbrinium

OOC: You want to have a Thread where my pm comes and speaks to your nation and we could also talk about trade and maybe alliance?


OOC:
To: Sir Konstantinos Stephanos, Prime Minister, The Kingdom of Imbrinium.

Thank you for a your quick response, our government understands that your postion is that nuclear weapons are the last ditched attempt or detertent to the hostile nations that haunt the world today.

On behalf of Prime Minister Christian Bjørnson, i would like to reassure your King and your countrymen that the views expressed yesterday were those of the opposition parties and are not expresed by the overall majority coalition government. You also have to remember that this is the biggest diplomatic event since the Act of Unitary Consitution in 1654 which established the current Parliamentary Monarchy state that you see today, So it is hardly unexpected that this issue will be controverisal.

We happily accept your offer of signing the papers in Grasaland, we also believe that a state visit will certainly help the issue, and calm some of the more moderate press and anti-war lot.

We await your reply

Phillip Naslund
Secretary of Foreign Affairs

OOC: an excellent idea on that thread idea!

i will say who's getting the 3 bases this weekend

Ministry of Defense HQ

As Demi Efthalia the minister of defense and her staff and the minister of national security Vlassis Kyriakos and his staff walk down the halls of the MOD to a large conference room. The guard opens the door and there seated in the room are the minister of the of the navy Admiral Leila Russo the minister in the royal air force Gen. Gioele Trevisani. All enter the room and take their seats. The minister of defense presses to buttons on the video phones with the three nations.

Good afternoon gentlemen, this call is to confirm our nation’s agreement to place a naval base to 2 of your countries and an Air force base in another. The countries getting the two naval bases are the countries of:

1. The Kingdom of Grasaland
2. Free Republic of Lamoni

The nation of Gibberish America is only receiving an Air base at this time. Our country will be buying the land but this will be a joint venture between the RIN and RIAF at a later date. The fourth country will not be receiving a naval base at this time but would like to open relations with this country and a placement of a naval base on the proposed land at a later date is The Holy Empire of Anemos Major.

If any of this nations care to with draw from this agreement please do so now before any paper work can be signed. If there are any questions, please contact me at this office. The Kingdom of Grasaland as we understand it our Prime Minister will be coming to your nation to finalize the paperwork and as a show of friendship. If any of the said nations would like to be added to this list, please respond.

Thank you.
Demi Efthalia