Operation United Strike (MT, Open, ATTN TUG and Leistung)
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From: The Zinairian Foreign Authority
To: Gregorius Ringkampf
Re: Operation United Strike
Priority: High
Encryption: Level 5
As you know, are nations are brought together both by our membership in LION and our dislike for The United Government. As you are well aware, they have recently entered the business of peddling WMDs to whoever can pay although, honestly, we'd prefer a terrorist had them than TUG. After sending two cease and desist notices, Zinaire has decided, for the good of the world as a whole, to perform a series of tactical strikes against production and storage facilities used to create and house these weapons. If we are not mistaken, we can count on your assistance in this operation which we have called United Strike in anticipation of your collaboration.
The Zinairian Foreign Authority does not divulge classified information, information irrelevant to the matter at hand and with the potential to negatively affect the situation or information related to another government entity without explicit permission to do so. If you believe you have received information in error, please report it immediately.
ZINNIA Headquarters, Blair, Zinaire
Using Zinairian satellites, the experts at the Zinairian National Intelligence Agency were hard at work trying to determine where the missiles and satellites were being produced and stored.
One frustrated rookie looked up from his computer and turned to his supervisor, "I don't think we can find the facilities, can't we just bomb their ports?"
The supervisor shrugged, "I wouldn't mind, but that's up to the military. If we destroyed TUG's ports though, it would severely reduce global hot air exports, I'm not sure if we can risk that."
The rookie snorted and went back to work.
Sultenia
22-08-2008, 11:56
Official Statement to the International Community
The Emirate of Sultenia
It is with great concern that we are noticing the accusations that The United Government, rather than improving world security and peace by dismantling weapons of massdestruction spreading them upon the world putting innocent people and world peace at risk.
Although we would like to see more evidence and a statement from The United Goverment rather than jumping to conclusions.
The United Government
22-08-2008, 17:56
The Armed Republic of The United Government
We of The United Government will declare war if our port are destroyed
Our Anti-Satelitte missiles are on stand by
Defense Office, Whiteriver
"Have all ship leave port and standby for a possilbe invasion" "Copy that we are leaving port and are preparing for invasion, over" "copy that"
UG 10th Grizzly Squadron, Robinson Airforce Base
"Scrammble the Fighters ready for invasion over" "Copy that"
A siren out side sounded as 3 by 3 fighter were being launched to secure airspace inside the United Government and all ports "We are airborne over" "Copy that standby for possible invasion over" "Copy that"
Sky Harbour, Whiteriver
"Have all planes land send everybody home don't let planes in or out" "10-4, Government airline 23-5, 25-1, 16-9, 10-2 return home for emergeny landgin over" "10-4"
were takeing control of the airport for any emergeny landing for fighter "Defense Office to Cheif of Command permission to deploy missile and air defense systems at the airport?" "Copy that permission granted" "Copy that"
A group of 5,000 Armed troops secured the airport as 15 ZSU-23-4 air defense and 20 patriot missile efense systems came in along with them were 20 T-90s, 24 BMP-3, 12 AH-6 Littlebirds and 13 Scud launcher.
Defense Office, Whiteriver
We have every thing exept for cities and towns controled sir" "Copy that sound the alarm"
In the cities of Whiteriver, Russian Square (rebuilding), and other cities and towns people were running find the nearist bunker to save them selves.
OOC: hope i'm doing this right!
Il Korea
22-08-2008, 18:26
To: All Nations Involved
From: The Republic of Il Korea
We highly suggest some sort of peace talks before any form of military action takes place. Let us not forget we are simply wasting the lives of the young men and women of our nations if we jump to conclusions. Please, do the best you can to avoid any form of military conflict.
OOC: You're preparing for an invasion you don't even know is coming? Brilliant! Btw your giant wall of text gave me a headache. I hope your happy.
From the Desk of His Imperial Majesty Emperor Samuel II
At this present to we will not be supporting either side until we have more concrete evidence as to whether the allegations against The United Government are indeed true.
At this time we would like to ask both sides to come up with some sort of diplomatic solution to this crisis before anyone dies.
Towards this I am personally offering to hold talks between Zinaire and The United Government.
Signed
His Most Imperial Majesty Emperor Samuel II
The United Government
22-08-2008, 18:34
From the Desk of His Imperial Majesty Emperor Samuel II
At this present to we will not be supporting either side until we have more concrete evidence as to whether the allegations against The United Government are indeed true.
At this time we would like to ask both sides to come up with some sort of diplomatic solution to this crisis before anyone dies.
Towards this I am personally offering to hold talks between Zinaire and The United Government.
Signed
His Most Imperial Majesty Emperor Samuel II
We deny your offer if Zinaire is going to strike we mine as well fight back
We deny your offer if Zinaire is going to strike we mine as well fight back
OOC: How do you know that Zinaire is going to strike you?
United Gordonopia
22-08-2008, 18:39
Encrypted Message
To: The Zinairian Foreign Authority
From: Johnathon Brown, Gordonopian Foreign Minister
We have seen that TUG is selling Nuclear Weapons. We are adamantly against nuclear weapons and, providing you can get at least one other nation to support this, we shall send forces to assist. We shall dispatch the 2nd and 3rd Armies (totaling 200,000 men each with 2 tank divisions each), The 1st Navy (1 Carrier, 2 Missile Cruisers, 5 Destroyers, and 12 smaller combat vessels), and the 2nd Airforce (200 fighters and 40 bombers plus 20 Command Aircraft). These forces total about 624,000 men. In addition, we shall also send 2 Marine Divisions (40,000 men), 100 Gordonopian Commandos. Also, depending on the terrain, we could send one of our specialized divisions (mountain or jungle). If all forces are sent, the force would total 684,100 men.
The United Government
22-08-2008, 18:44
We are pulling all our forces out of The Rithian war! We have a total of 5,225,000 troops ready for battle!
OOC: How do you know that Zinaire is going to strike you?
OOC:Once again. How do you know abiut Zinaire's actions?
Il Korea
22-08-2008, 18:52
Encrypted Message
To: The Zinairian Foreign Authority
From: Johnathon Brown, Gordonopian Foreign Minister
We have seen that TUG is selling Nuclear Weapons. We are adamantly against nuclear weapons and, providing you can get at least one other nation to support this, we shall send forces to assist. We shall dispatch the 2nd and 3rd Armies (totaling 200,000 men each with 2 tank divisions each), The 1st Navy (1 Carrier, 2 Missile Cruisers, 5 Destroyers, and 12 smaller combat vessels), and the 2nd Airforce (200 fighters and 40 bombers plus 20 Command Aircraft). These forces total about 624,000 men. In addition, we shall also send 2 Marine Divisions (40,000 men), 100 Gordonopian Commandos. Also, depending on the terrain, we could send one of our specialized divisions (mountain or jungle). If all forces are sent, the force would total 684,100 men.
OOC: Think you have enough?
United Gordonopia
22-08-2008, 19:02
OOC: dude, it's not to completely kill him, it's just a small help, and I'm only deploying it if zinaire can get more people to help
Il Korea
22-08-2008, 19:04
OOC: dude, it's not to completely kill him, it's just a small help, and I'm only deploying it if zinaire can get more people to help
I'm just asking because your economy is terrible...and yet you can afford all that?
United Gordonopia
22-08-2008, 19:07
ooc: i dunno, mabye i have to much, but no ones had much of a problem with it before.
Canedian marine
22-08-2008, 19:15
CM is willing to help here. Sending marine's called: CM marine 1. That means, fighting TUG in marine ways. Around 60.000 marines will be sended to fight here. To attack the ports and stuff.
The Armed Republic of The United Government
We of The United Government will declare war if our port are destroyed
Our Anti-Satelitte missiles are on stand by
Defense Office, Whiteriver
"Have all ship leave port and standby for a possilbe invasion" "Copy that we are leaving port and are preparing for invasion, over" "copy that"
UG 10th Grizzly Squadron, Robinson Airforce Base
"Scrammble the Fighters ready for invasion over" "Copy that"
A siren out side sounded as 3 by 3 fighter were being launched to secure airspace inside the United Government and all ports "We are airborne over" "Copy that standby for possible invasion over" "Copy that"
Sky Harbour, Whiteriver
"Have all planes land send everybody home don't let planes in or out" "10-4, Government airline 23-5, 25-1, 16-9, 10-2 return home for emergeny landgin over" "10-4"
were takeing control of the airport for any emergeny landing for fighter "Defense Office to Cheif of Command permission to deploy missile and air defense systems at the airport?" "Copy that permission granted" "Copy that"
A group of 5,000 Armed troops secured the airport as 15 ZSU-23-4 air defense and 20 patriot missile efense systems came in along with them were 20 T-90s, 24 BMP-3, 12 AH-6 Littlebirds and 13 Scud launcher.
Defense Office, Whiteriver
We have every thing exept for cities and towns controled sir" "Copy that sound the alarm"
In the cities of Whiteriver, Russian Square (rebuilding), and other cities and towns people were running find the nearist bunker to save them selves.
OOC: hope i'm doing this right!
OOC: Well you aren't. How do you know he is going to do anything? All he is doing is using his military observation satellites which most countries have so its nothing out of the ordinary. He isn't doing anything your government knows about to warrant any action.
To: All Nations Involved
From: The Republic of Il Korea
We highly suggest some sort of peace talks before any form of military action takes place. Let us not forget we are simply wasting the lives of the young men and women of our nations if we jump to conclusions. Please, do the best you can to avoid any form of military conflict.
Joke OOC: STop the diplomacy and start shooting. j/k j/k
We deny your offer if Zinaire is going to strike we mine as well fight back
OOC: Ah, but you can't ICly know that he is going to strike.
We are pulling all our forces out of The Rithian war! We have a total of 5,225,000 troops ready for battle!
OOC: 5.225 million? That is 52.25 million if you aren't including logistics and only if they don't have tanks or artillery. Plus you can't immediately teleport them, you must move them through your posts. Right now your country should be functioning as if you have no idea something is coming because ICly you have no idea something is coming.
CM is willing to help here. Sending marine's called: CM marine 1. That means, fighting TUG in marine ways. Around 60.000 marines will be sended to fight here. To attack the ports and stuff.
Thinly veiled Canedian Army, thinly veiled. You live in the Koningkrijk, yes?
United Gordonopia
22-08-2008, 19:27
so is someone gonna help fight him?
OOC: 5 million troops who apparently never went to school either when your nation is currently spending 41% of its budget in defense and nothing into education. I'm surprised your people didn't burst out into dance when they heard your alarms go off in your cities.
OOC: Spending on defense typically includes training if you didn't know and there is such a thing as private education. If the army is regarded as a high-profile career choice, recruiting shouldn't be a problem.
Il Korea
22-08-2008, 19:40
The Il Korean Republic has called up the 2nd Marine Expeditionary Unit to help with humanitarian aid in case any conflict occurs. A total of 2,500 Marines are currently at sea and are being briefed on their mission.
OOC: Sure they learn from private education but where do they learn how to be an engineer to work on their tanks? The military. Which means they have to spend more time training because they have to learn that skill.
What if they can't read? Well they can't be in the army. So the army has to teach them.
You can't just have 5 million troops and with 0% in education say that they went to Oxford. Hell with no social welfare or health care a good chunk of his army probably comes from poor backgrounds meaning they can't afford private eduction.
Canedian marine
22-08-2008, 20:04
To who are we talking now?
OOC: CA, I know its you. ICly I don't know its you but OOCly I do.
As for you, Roma V, why can must one be able to read if one is in the army? Plus, there is something called cheap labour. One does not have to be able to read in order to work in a 19th or early 20th style factory. They don't have to go to Oxford, they just need to be able to learn and shoot.
As for engineering, no civilian unless they served as a military engineer will be able to fix a tank anyways. They need to teach them to do that regardless of education spending. The same for other logistics personnel and actual soldiers. Civilian education has no impact on the amount of military training one must recieve in order to be a capable fighter.
OOC: 5 million troops who apparently never went to school either when your nation is currently spending 41% of its budget in defense and nothing into education. I'm surprised your people didn't burst out into dance when they heard your alarms go off in your cities.
OOC:
@Roma, where are getting your data?
@Canedian Marine and United Government
Look at this thread here Guide to War (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416823)
OOC: One's budget - atleast percentage wise - is written into NS.net code so that number is consistent with any calculator. TUG said he pulled out 5.225 mil troops for something he wasn't ICly aware was going to happen.
Leistung
22-08-2008, 21:38
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Official Communiqué to Zinaire
Ministry of Defense
Hauptstadt, Leistung
You have our full and complete support in the matter, but know that until the siege of our southern-most port (and main naval stronghold) is relieved, we will be unable to send military elements. Once the situation is resolved, we will follow your lead dealing with TUG and his nuclear payloads.
Sincerely,
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Jan Tirpitz
Minister of Defense for the Republic of Leistung
OOC: I got my info from NSTracker.
A soldier should be able to read so he read signs and what not. They also give you books to read as well when you join the army on tactics and survival and what not.
Also, an engineer would be more better suited to fixing a tank if he had past experience fixing other vehicles than a guy who skipped it and just went right to tanks. It's called experience and its something an army needs to be efficient.
United Gordonopia
22-08-2008, 21:57
exactly
Ok, on reading, I did not know. As for books and such - audio tapes. A little bit more expensive. What signs?
Secondly on engineering, the guy with experience would have that experience regardless of education because clearly that person engineered on other things first and was probably trained on the job. If said person took a co-op or internship then, yes, you are right but otherwise, no.
Leistung
22-08-2008, 22:05
OOC: This is a discussion for another time.
OOC: You know, before you all rag on TUG for knowing an invasion is coming (to his credit, I did make disarmament demands with threats of military action in his Capitalist Storefront (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563684) thread) you should probably wonder how you all know it's coming. I mean, it's pretty hard to suggest peace talks or offer support when you don't know something is happening.
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From: The Zinairian Foreign Authority
To: Jan Tirpitz
Re: Operation United Strike
Priority: High
Encryption: Level 5
The situation at your port is indeed regrettable. However, this operation is not intended to be a wide-scale invasion of The United Government, but rather a tactical operation targeted at nuclear production and storage facilities. In fact, we feel that since our satellites have picked up massive troop movements by TUG armed forces, an outright invasion would be far too dangerous. We are hoping at least a small group of special operators can escape your nation and join us in this endeavor. If nothing else, we trust you can provide support by helping us locate nuclear facilities.
The Zinairian Foreign Authority does not divulge classified information, information irrelevant to the matter at hand and with the potential to negatively affect the situation or information related to another government entity without explicit permission to do so. If you believe you have received information in error, please report it immediately.
Zinairian A/AF Base One
"I can't believe those paranoid communist motherf***ers!" Yelled Colonel Arthur Dean looking at the satellite photos of the TUG forces, "What was the motherf***ing FA thinking making threats of action? Now those motherf***ers are on motherf***ing high alert! There's no way we can get guys past that. Anyone? Ideas?"
"Well," said a newly promoted Captain, "Our primary options involve a naval component. The last thing we want is a spec ops gig turned into a massive naval battle, so I say we forget air insertion from either an aircraft or assault carrier. It seems like a SEAL insertion by submarine may be the best option."
"We could also forgo the spec ops element and just batter their ports with strategic submarines or bomb their nuclear facilities with stealth bombers." Added a Major.
The United Government
22-08-2008, 23:09
Defense Office, Whiteriver
"We haven't had anyhting happen yet" "We need to know what's happening" "Well they might still be planning an attack" "your probably right" "why would they wnat to attack ports is a question I can't answer" "Move our 28th Eagle Squadron over the Facalities that might be their primary target if they told us stop selling nukes! Get the Chief of Command on the phone" "Right way" "Mr.president permission to launch our 28th Eagle Squad" "For what reason" "To secure airspace over all facalites!" "permission granted this better be good I'm wasting money on your a**es now!" "Yes sir"
28th Eagle Squadron, UG 5th Airforce Base
"Sir we just recieved command to scrambble the 28th Eagle squad" "for what reason to protect all facillities" "Well what are you waiting for!" The alarm sounded and 345 F-35 JSF and 200 F-22 Raptors took off.
28th Nimitz battle squad
"We just recieved a command to be on high alert for aerial aircraft have all Air and Missile Defense systems on standby" "Ok have our submarines and sonar on alert as well we don't know when a ballistic missile submarine is coming"
OOC: I hope i'm doing this right to!
OOC: I hope i'm doing this right to!
OOC: Seriously, even if you do know we're coming for your facilities, you don't get to know what your plans are. And you really are overreacting....
OOC: Well we can't just assume he uses audio tapes so that's a failed point. And as for signs what if they chase some soldiers into a building with a big sign out front that says "Nuclear Power Plant!" and they can't read that? What if it's not even in their language? Then they gotta learn another one too. Road signs are another thing, readings in tanks and cockpits, etc.
Also.
Go ahead and let him waste his aircraft fuel and ship oil while he mobilizes his entire army. It's his lose. =P
Leistung
22-08-2008, 23:27
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Official Communiqué to Zinaire
Ministry of Defense
Hauptstadt, Leistung
Because the siege appears to be under control, and it extends solely to the port of Hafenstadt, we see no problem in deploying a number of special operations teams to the area to eliminate targets you specify. 564 members of the "Jägergruppe" special warfare group will be airlifted to The United Government as soon as the order is given.
They are each highly trained soldiers and will be expecting to meet heavy resistance while on the way to the silos or nuclear production facilities--whichever is ascertained to be the most dangerous target. Hopefully, however, casualties will be kept to a minimum on both sides of the conflict.
If needed, more units can be deployed to the area.
Sincerely,
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Jan Tirpitz
Minister of Defense for the Republic of Leistung
Ralkovia
22-08-2008, 23:38
Ralkovia will be sending 15000 death guard into TUG, they will be arriving by plane. If shots are fired on them by TUG forces we will eliminate you.
Leistung
22-08-2008, 23:40
OOC: Ralk, there's no way for you to know that this is happening.
Ralkovia
22-08-2008, 23:45
ooc: TUG alerted me to this I just read the TG a few moments ago. Now that you know that I'm supporting TUG I have lost my surprise
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From: The Zinairian Foreign Authority
To: Jan Tirpitz
Re: Operation United Strike
Priority: High
Encryption: Level 5
We ask that you hold off on insertion. Not only are we yet to positively identify targets but we also must determine the best method of entry. Surveillance indicates that TUG naval and air forces are on high alert, complicating an insertion. However, the high level or troop readiness indicates that they may be preparing for a large-scale invasion. Therefore, a special operations insertion may fly under the radar, so to speak.
Alternatively, we could halt operations until they drop their guard then move in.
The Zinairian Foreign Authority does not divulge classified information, information irrelevant to the matter at hand and with the potential to negatively affect the situation or information related to another government entity without explicit permission to do so. If you believe you have received information in error, please report it immediately.
A/AF Base One
"That's new." Said the Major, pointing to an image of jets circling over an area.
"It looks like they're defending something specific," Said the Colonel, "and that doesn't look like a port to me. I think we just found at least one of the facilities."
Leistung
23-08-2008, 00:54
Official Communiqué
To: Zinairian Foreign Authority
From: Ministry of Defense
Subj: Spec ops Strike
We highly recommend that we move as soon as possible, though you are correct in saying that we should consider all possible options for insertion. We recommend a helicopter insertion flown below radar as a front from the air, while naval insertion teams move in from the sea. Electronic support planes flying far above interception range should be able to jam or at least scramble the communications coming from the United Government military headquarters.
Because of the high alert levels of the United Government soldiers, it may be a viable option to station a number of ships offshore in a visible position to distract TUG forces while our spec ops teams insert from another area to attempt to eliminate specified targets.
Sincerely,
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Jan Tirpitz
Minister of Defense for the Republic of Leistung
((OOC: I'm trying out new layouts for my communications))
Alliance Star
23-08-2008, 00:56
((OoC: Sorry to budge in, but I want to know if other nations outside LION and the Opposing force know about the situation, 'In Character'.))
OOC: Actually only Zinaire & Leistung know ICly. Everyone else is either godmoding or mixing OOC & IC.
Alliance Star
23-08-2008, 01:02
((OoC: Alright. Thanks for the info. ^_^ If the IC information presents itself, then I'll present myself from there.))
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From: The Zinairian Foreign Authority
To: Jan Tirpitz
Re: Operation United Strike
Priority: High
Encryption: Level 5
A helicopter insertion with electronic warfare aircraft acting in support does seem like a viable option. Combined with a naval insertion, it seems like the best option. If we were to base these insertions from an expeditionary strike fleet, this would also act as a distraction to keep the TUG naval forces occupied.
We also believe we have located at least one of the nuclear facilities based on troop movements in that area.
The Zinairian Foreign Authority does not divulge classified information, information irrelevant to the matter at hand and with the potential to negatively affect the situation or information related to another government entity without explicit permission to do so. If you believe you have received information in error, please report it immediately.
The United Government
23-08-2008, 02:27
OOC: I should have thought you will find one!Я настолько тупоумн
Leistung
23-08-2008, 02:42
OOC: I'm sorry but...what?
The United Government
23-08-2008, 02:45
OOC: I'm sorry but...what?
OOC:forget it :(
The United Government
23-08-2008, 02:49
Defense Office, Whiteriver
"Those people have been in the bunker for quite a while send troops to help with water and food" " Yes sir" "Have those aircraft been launched yet?" "Yes from Raptors to JSF"
"How about those Thunderbolts?" "No" "Well Deploy them!" "Yes sir"
Sarrowquand
23-08-2008, 02:52
To: ZFA
From: Office of Grey 88
We recently received several orange header files on a potential operation in TUG, please confirm as we wish to pass this topic to the Council of Speakers.
(OOC: Orange is the colour of gossip in Sarrowquand)
The Northern Baltic
23-08-2008, 04:31
OOC: Sigh...
IC: Official Communique
Any hostile attempts against the nation of The United Government will be dealt with accordingly. United Worker's Republic troops are currently stationed in several military bases in The United Government. The death of any of our troops will call for an immediate declaration of war and appropriate action will be taken.
Leistung
23-08-2008, 04:37
OOC: There's no way for you to know this is going on. All telegrams are secret IC between Zinaire and myself.
I remember you from the last war...your intervention is what led to the drawn-out nuclear scare.
The Northern Baltic
23-08-2008, 04:48
OOC: There's no way for you to know this is going on. All telegrams are secret IC between Zinaire and myself.
I remember you from the last war...your intervention is what led to the drawn-out nuclear scare.
OOC: Not true. On both accounts.
Firstly, TUG asked me to help him. His government to my government. His troops are mobilizing all over the place. Even if his government didn't tell mine, don't you think the troops in the bases would've figured something out sooner or later?
Secondly, the 'nuclear scare' was only created because TUG refused to surrender. My presence there was probably one of the only things that stopped it.
Leistung
23-08-2008, 05:12
OOC: Ah, I forgot about your bases. I'm 95% sure that there's a carbon monoxide leak in my house, so expect further craziness :) . Though your troops in TUG obviously know, the point still remains that all telegrams so far between Zinaire and myself are secret IC--ie, you wouldn't know our plans, but you doubtless know that already.
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From: The Zinairian Foreign Authority
To: Office of Grey 88
Re: Gossip
Priority: Normal
Encryption: Level 3
You have been misinformed. No operation is planned.
The Zinairian Foreign Authority does not divulge classified information, information irrelevant to the matter at hand and with the potential to negatively affect the situation or information related to another government entity without explicit permission to do so. If you believe you have received information in error, please report it immediately.
OOC: His troops really shouldn't be mobilizing all over the place since he has no way of knowing what's really planned.
Sarrowquand
23-08-2008, 15:04
To: The Zinairian Foreign Authority
From:Office of Grey 88
Duly noted. It is good that The Department Of Ocean Management can clear these things up with you though.
Canedian marine
23-08-2008, 15:47
To: The Zinairian Foreign Authority
From: Canedian marine war office
It is better if we strike as soon as possible. If the army is on the move, they are preparing defences. Setting up artillery and such. It is not good. it is better, if we get as low enemy defences against us. They will be ready for us. If we strike now, they dont got much defences jet, that makes it easy to take a first piece of land, or atleast destroying a port or factory. My forces, the navy, will attack some ports, big ones, and small ones. We say: Now. To attack now. Report the other nation, to prepare for an assault.
To: The Zinairian Foreign Authority
From: Canedian marine war office
It is better if we strike as soon as possible. If the army is on the move, they are preparing defences. Setting up artillery and such. It is not good. it is better, if we get as low enemy defences against us. They will be ready for us. If we strike now, they dont got much defences jet, that makes it easy to take a first piece of land, or atleast destroying a port or factory. My forces, the navy, will attack some ports, big ones, and small ones. We say: Now. To attack now. Report the other nation, to prepare for an assault.
OOC: Uh.... 1) This is all SIC so you don't know about the operation, 2) GTFO
OOC: He got himself into trouble again?
IC: After several intelligence reports, and very many information coaxes, the Rithics finally became aware of the WMD situation. After intercepting several messages, and set to work on decoding them, the Rithics also became aware of the possible missile strike. They weren't sure if it had actually happened though. To inspect, the Northeast sent 3 NE Peacekeeping squads to see what had happened and to assess the damage.
OOC: TUG, you know, I have never had so much fun. You always get yourself into trouble.
Leistung
23-08-2008, 17:56
Official Communiqué
Republic of Leistung
To: ZFA
From: Ministry of Defense
Subj: Green light
Because of the entrance of foreign peacekeepers and the presence of NB's troops on The United Government's territory, we feel that the operations should commence sooner rather than later. However, before we commit our forces, we are curious as to which targets you had in mind for...deletion. We highly recommend that any and all targets pertaining to the launch or production of WMD's or WMD catalysts are hit as soon as humanly possible, followed up perhaps with strikes against TUG's ports and the headquarters of whichever company runs Capitalist Storefront.
Sincerely,
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Jan Tirpitz
Minister of Defense for the Republic of Leistung
OOC: This will be an interesting battle. I may get to use the Phoenix again. That will be fun :P
Canedian marine
23-08-2008, 18:43
OOC: Go ahead, that sounds good...
IC:
To: Leistung
From: King Almof I
We think it is better if we attack now. My navy forces at TUG's waters, or near them, are going to attack some small ports. If we let everybody send peacekeepers, he will get more defences. If we attack now, we can do this without blood...From our soldiers...
We need to assault now.
King Almof I.
Head of CM lands.
OOC: Go ahead, that sounds good...
IC:
To: Leistung
From: King Almof I
We think it is better if we attack now. My navy forces at TUG's waters, or near them, are going to attack some small ports. If we let everybody send peacekeepers, he will get more defences. If we attack now, we can do this without blood...From our soldiers...
We need to assault now.
King Almof I.
Head of CM lands.
OOC: I'm not kidding. You can't just intercept an encrypted communication then chime right in with your ideas. Now please, for the love of god, GTFO.
Canedian marine
23-08-2008, 18:47
For the love of god? I am an atheist, so i dont mind...
For the love of god? I am an atheist, so i dont mind...
OOC: Looks like we have a regular funnyman here...
Sarrowquand
23-08-2008, 19:12
OOC: Oh CM, are randomly pirating TUG's coast? A little looting maybe? :)
IC:
After recieving an odd request from Grey 88 of The Department Of Ocean Management Grey 11,219 of The Bureau of Observation began filling in the forms required to authorize some satelite time for Oceanographic observation.
OOC: I think that there is enough activity down there to warrant watching to see what will happen.
The inspecting squads finally arrived at The United Government. The two nations were very close, even though they were on different continents. About one hundred of the many men got onto shore, and opened a small communications set-up. They immediately phoned TUG's capital. "What the hell is going on here?" a man shouted into the phone, he waited for a reply as the bad reception spat static at him.
Canedian marine
23-08-2008, 19:29
To: Rithian
From: King almof I.
I say you pull out your soldiers. There is a change, that they will be killed by bombers and such. This nation keeps getting into mess. I warn you, if any soldiers die by our hands, it wont be seen as a war crime.
King Almof I.
Lord of CM lands.
OOC: O, and those things, i saw on a satelite that they landed.
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/4421/rith6of5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
TO: King Almof I
From: Rithian
Yes, and I say any nuclear missiles that just happen to fire at your nation won't be considered a war crime either.
TO: King Almof I
From: Rithian
Yes, and I say any nuclear missiles that just happen to fire at your nation won't be considered a war crime either.
OOC: The prime minister would personally award your nation with some kind of shiny medal of appreciation.
OOC: What for threatening him with nuclear holocaust? I even got a cool video to show people when I nuke em. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L2pyTn1O00&NR=1
Canedian marine
23-08-2008, 19:36
To: Rithian
From: King Almof I
No, they will. This is not the same.
He is in shit, i want to fight him. When i attack the port, if i will anyway, maybe i will fire a shot of artillery into your troops. I warned you. This is a change, there is a change that it happens.
To: King Almof I
From: Rithian
Of course they would, so would you prefer strike missiles or smallpox shells?
Canedian marine
23-08-2008, 19:38
OOC: What for threatening him with nuclear holocaust? I even got a cool video to show people when I nuke em. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L2pyTn1O00&NR=1
Funny. Well, if you mean you nuked me, i dont think so.
OOC: I didn't nuke you, I was saying that in OOC, I show that to people when I nuke em.
Canedian marine
23-08-2008, 19:40
To: Rithian
From: King Almof I
Aha. I am ust saying, that maybe some of your soldiers will die.
And, if you help TUG, your troops are good as dead already. We will make sure TUG dont makes or sells nukes, and that is that.
King Almof I.
Lord of CM lands.
From: Rithian
To: King Almof I
Encryption: Dragon-Class
Heck, if you just wanted him to not sell nukes, I'll I got to do is whip out some random policy about withholding protection for nuclear sellers, then you guys threaten with missiles, and they'll break.
Canedian marine
23-08-2008, 19:47
To: Rithian
From: King Almof I
Yes, it coud. But i dont think so.
TUG will become a new nation, a peaceful nation. The war factory's will be destroyed, nuclear silo's will be destroyed, tank factory's destroyed, every war thing.
That is what you get.
King Almof I
Lord of CM lands.
To: King Almof I
From: Rithian
We are pledged to protect TUG. So, may we eat well tonight. Because tomorrow, we go to war!
Canedian marine
23-08-2008, 19:52
To: Rithian
From: King Almof I
Yes alright. Tomorrow, the future of TUG will be dicided.
Canedian marine
23-08-2008, 19:56
luitanant! Luitanant! We got a order!
What? From King Almof?
Yes. He says: Move the ships to 2 miles closer to TUGS waters.
We will send a new army of boats to help you.
Good!
A big fleet left a military port. they where heading to the other ships near TUG waters.
Another 30.000 marines moved to the other ships near TUG borders.
OOC: God, this is going to be fun. Also, I hope you know most of the comments I made were just for the lulz, because your not really following the guidelines of war, so I'm kinda acting like you.
Leistung
23-08-2008, 20:04
OOC: Whoa, calm down people. Zinaire and I are talking about crippling his economy and military with special operations, not full-scale war. CM, we've already asked you nicely to stop answering the communications sent between Zinaire and myself, and I can only be nice for so long.
OOC: Whoa, calm down people. Zinaire and I are talking about crippling his economy and military with special operations, not full-scale war. CM, we've already asked you nicely to stop answering the communications sent between Zinaire and myself, and I can only be nice for so long.
OOC: I'm not even trying to cripple anything, I just want to destroy some nukes.
Leistung
23-08-2008, 20:13
OOC: I'm not even trying to cripple anything, I just want to destroy some nukes.
OOC: Yeah, I meant crippling his nuclear program
Yep, I'm just gonna put this noob in his place.
Leistung
23-08-2008, 20:16
OOC: Right, but what I'm saying is that your government physically cannot know that this is going on. There haven't been any signs other than TUG recalling his troops, which, for all you know could just be for a really big parade.
OOC: Yesh, you forgot to read my statement a few posts above, I was acting like him, by somehow intercepting and crap. Also, TUG used the statement "Defending myself from attack." when he withdrew, before I read this I thought he was being attacked already, then after I decided to make fun of the noob, who seems to act a lot like Canedian Army, and I'm assuming they're the same person.
Sarrowquand
23-08-2008, 20:33
OOC: You know for a thread that is listed as being open there are no openings (at least yet). Not talking about the intercepts and TUG's reponse is off but TUG did ask how to respond a couple of times. But Zinaire, Leistung are you guys going to do anything that allows a legit excuse for anyone to know anything. I'm not complaigning it sucks that the three of you are having your RP disrupted like this but right now I feel guilty for watching you through my space lens'. So lets get some action and some constructive feedbacks for newer player types to latch on to. Like maybe TUG could describe what normally goes on in his factories of doom.
OOC: Yeah, after I listed it as open I realized 1) I probably don't want it to be and 2) at least at the present, it's not really all that open.
Leistung
23-08-2008, 20:36
OOC: Sarrowquand, when things start exploding and TUG blames Zinaire and I (inevitable), that should be reason enough.
@Zinaire: Should we just get the ball rolling? I'll scramble jammers and park my subs offshore. Helicopters should be able to make it from Leistung if they're refueled halfway.
OOC: Sorry, I was just really, really bored. You can disregard any of my comments, but note, I am liable to enter if TUG is attacked, because I'm pledged to him.
OOC: Sarrowquand, when things start exploding and TUG blames Zinaire and I (inevitable), that should be reason enough.
@Zinaire: Should we just get the ball rolling? I'll scramble jammers and park my subs offshore. Helicopters should be able to make it from Leistung if they're refueled halfway.
OOC: Well, I have no idea where TUG is, but unless it's conveniently located in near the Caribbean, I don't think we'll be able to do a pure helicopter insertion (probably an over-the-horizon insertion based off an assault carrier). I suppose we could do the naval insertion while you do the helicopter one.
Leistung
23-08-2008, 20:48
OOC: Fine with us. We'll send over a helicopter carrier to commence operations. It'll slink our after dumping troops and slink back to pick them up. Expect IC post soon.
OOC: Fine with us. We'll send over a helicopter carrier to commence operations. It'll slink our after dumping troops and slink back to pick them up. Expect IC post soon.
OOC: Don't we need a plan for when we reach the facilities?
Leistung
23-08-2008, 21:26
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/896/sealmn6.gif
Official Communiqué
Republic of Leistung
To: ZFA
From: Ministry of Defense
Subj: Targets
When our forces penetrate enemy lines, our first targets will be nuclear production and firing sites already considered operational--silos, mobile labs, nuclear assembly sites, and airbases suspected to hold nuclear bombers. These targets will be dealt with by a combination of explosives brought on-site and by cruise missile strikes targeted with laser designators carried by insertion teams. The missiles will be based on five "Kodiak (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13627900&postcount=462)" bombers operating about 500 nautical miles from suspected sites, and should be sufficient to deal with all but the most hardened areas.
Before operations can commence, however, we need to know exactly what it is we are dealing with, and for that we need your intelligence. What information have you collected about the WMD sites as of now, and where do you think we should strike to do the most damage? Our satellites and intelligence agencies believe to have picked up traces of what appears to be three different nuclear facilities, but in our experience there is usually more to a nation's stockpiles than meets the eye.
Sincerely,
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5871/signaturenr0.png
Jan Tirpitz
Minister of Defense for the Republic of Leistung
OOC: We kind of need TUG to show up so he can tell us where the facilities are and what they're like...
Leistung
24-08-2008, 16:05
OOC: I hate being fair...
Canedian marine
24-08-2008, 17:44
OOC: Me to...
IC:
To: Leistung
From: King Almof I
I think, that i can take care of some ports. If you destroy the most big tank factory's, or jet factory's first. Than we coud go off to the nuclear silo's.
Our forces are close neer TUG. We coud attack fast.
King Almof I.
King of CM lands.
OOC: Me to...
IC:
To: Leistung
From: King Almof I
I think, that i can take care of some ports. If you destroy the most big tank factory's, or jet factory's first. Than we coud go off to the nuclear silo's.
Our forces are close neer TUG. We coud attack fast.
King Almof I.
King of CM lands.
OOC: I'm tempted to say "charge ahead, we'll be right behind you" and solve two problems at once.
Canedian marine
24-08-2008, 17:48
OOC: Lets do it! We coud just send our forces ahead, bombing what is in our path!
OOC: Lets do it! We coud just send our forces ahead, bombing what is in our path!
OOC: Okay, go. Leistung and I will get ready and we'll have reinforcements for you soon.
Canedian marine
24-08-2008, 17:59
OOC: No... I want to go together. Take your forces now, than we can go with an big invasion army.
IC:
To: Zinaire
From: King Almof I
Lets go together. I will use my navy forces near TUG, around 40.000, to attack a big port. You go to a city, that makes they need to split up there forces: Less defences, so less deads on our side.
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From: The Zinairian Military Authority
To: King Almof I
Re: Op. United Strike
Priority: High
Encryption: Level 5
We understand that you do not want to enter the fray alone, however, it is absolutely necessary. We must strike now to avoid endangering the world as a whole by failing to intervene against TUG. Because your forces are currently in the area, it is CM's duty to the international community to begin the offensive against TUG while Zinairian and Leistungian/er/ish/? hurry to back up your forces. Failure to act immediately could be catastrophic and you are the world's only hope for immediate intervention.
The Zinairian Military Authority does not divulge classified information, information with the potential to endanger military operators or information related to another government entity without explicit permission to do so. If you believe you have received information in error, please report it immediately.
Imperial isa
24-08-2008, 18:09
OOC: I'm tempted to say "charge ahead, we'll be right behind you" and solve two problems at once.
ooc i have to say lol,but i could have that wrong
Canedian marine
24-08-2008, 18:44
To: Zinaire
From: King Almof I
Very well than. My forces will attack today, now...
Send forces from Zinaire to the TUG lands, waters and airspaces.
I need the help, now.
Canedian marine
24-08-2008, 18:48
The 40.000 marine's where on high alert. They where going to strike.
"Captain! We are ready to go!
Good...
Orders sir?
Move the fleet to TUG waters. Attack the port that is the smallest first. Than we will go to the next.
Yes captain..."
The fleet used full steam ahead. Moving into TUG waters.
After some hours, the fleet neared the port.
The forces loaded the rocket artillery and rockets...
"Wait!
What captain?
On open fire.
THREE...TWO...ONE...OPEN FIRE!
The ships started to fire, to send attacks to the port...
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From: The Zinairian Military Authority
To: King Almof I
Re: Op. United Strike
Priority: High
Encryption: Level 5
You have truly made the right decision. The world will commend you for keeping nuclear weapons out of the wrong hands.
Zinairian forces should arrive within 24 hours, continue to fight until we arrive. A hospital ship will accompany our forces to deal with your casualties.
The Zinairian Military Authority does not divulge classified information, information with the potential to endanger military operators or information related to another government entity without explicit permission to do so. If you believe you have received information in error, please report it immediately.
Canedian marine
24-08-2008, 18:56
To: Zinaire
From: King Almof I
Yes. our forces are fighting now.
We will hold out as long as we can.
OOC:..Shouldnt you guys really wait for TUG to see his reaction? Or are you just going to repeatedly attack him?
Islamajudianity
24-08-2008, 19:17
To: King Almof I of the Canedian Marine
From: Islamajudianitian High Command
We wish to know why you have launched an attack on The United Government. It seems rather unprovoked and quite barbaric as you are attacking a civilian center. This, coupled with the fact that TUG has only just begun to regain normality after it was practically destroyed in a previous invasion, leads us to believe you are taking advantage of this poor nation.
If this affair concerns TUG's nuclear program, we hope that your actions can at least be directed to areas related solely to its nuclear program instead of making it's people suffer.
Leistung
24-08-2008, 19:33
OOC: There have been no attacks so far. CM's forces are offshore waiting for TUG to return
OOC:But..ok..well this is my first time on NS forum..could someone explain(and I will sound like a complete noob asking this)What the abbreviation ATTN is? I think it has something to do with the attacking or the attacked nation..Also MT..
OOC:But..ok..well this si my first time on NS forum..could someone explain(and I will sound like a complete noob asking this)What the abbreviation ATTN is? I think it has something to do with the attacking or the attacked nation..Also MT..
OOC: ATTN is an abbreviation for "attention". It's used to signal which nations should read the thread. MT refers to modern tech (the technology we have today in the real world) as opposed to PMT (postmodern tech– the near future) and FT (future tech– the more distant future).
OOC: Thanks Zinaire..and now we are bumping this thread..hooray?
Islamajudianity
24-08-2008, 21:14
ooc: CM said his ships began to open fire and that his forces are fighting now. Sorry if you guys weren't attacking, I was just looking for an opening to come in.
Gibberish America
24-08-2008, 22:50
The USGA needs a summary of events so the country can join the fight. We were thinking of moving a division to the area of operations.
Leistung
24-08-2008, 23:52
OOC1: I was trying to emphasize the point to CM, not you Duista :)
OOC2: USGA, it's sort of hard to explain. I highly recommend that you read the thread first, and check your TG box.
Also, CM's forces have not landed. If he says they have, he's godmodding. What a surprise. CM, you need to wait for the person you're attacking to respond before launching full-scale invasions.
OOC: Hmm, fun, TUG and his ignore cannon, it's powerful ya know.
Imperial Palace, Granton
"Well you Majesty there is just one more thing," said OSS Director Jonathan
Stoddard
"Yes, Jon?" Emperor Samuel II asked his Intelligence man
"Sir it seems as though the United Government has been mobilizing its troops."
The Emperor frowned, "Any ideas why?"
"Well they were selling nuclear weapons to other nations apparently. And somebody doesn't like it I suppose and TUG caught wind of it."
"Well don't like it either. But we can't go attacking everybody who does something we don't like. We have bigger fish to fry. Any leads on who is moving against TUG?"
"Not at this time. It could be one of a dozen nations."
"Let me call Grand Admiral Mahoney and see what assets we have near by. This is a situation where I will us my executive powers to launch a military strike," the Emperor pressed a green button on his massive cherry maple desk, "Thom, can you ask the Grand Admiral to come here? Thank you."
"At once your Majesty," Thom said.
Five minutes later Duke Sir Harris Mahoney, the Duke of Mahoney walked into the antechamber and bowed deeply to his Emperor, "You sent for me, your Majesty?"
"Yes, Harris, what assets do we have in the area around The United Government?"
"Your Majesty we have the Ironhammer and her task force out on an exercise approximately five hours for air range of major TUG ports."
"How large is this task force?"
"Besides the superdreadnaught Ironhammer there are two Dreadnaughts, three Aircraft Carriers, one Helicopter Carrier, ten Cruisers, fifteen Destroyers, twenty Frigates, twenty-five patrol boats, ten SSN’s and four SSBN’s and one hospital ship, but four toop ships each carrying two thousand marines.”
“Excellent. Admiral give the order. We are going to attack TUG’s ports and nuclear facilities.”
Leistung
25-08-2008, 00:30
OOC: Leave the nuclear facilities to Zinaire and myself. We have a plan which should eliminate the facilities without a threat to anyone's nation.
OOC: You know, I could very easily manipulate this to be a training exercise for my alliance, but I won't because I'm not that kind of person.
The United Government
25-08-2008, 03:49
Defense Office, Whiteriver
"Captian! Reports from Recon tells us a fleet is attacking our ports!" " let the returing fleet from the Rithic War take care of them there are 5 miles offshore" "Yes sir" "Have the fighter from the !0th suadron attack but leave everything where there at get the Chief of Command on the phone-Mr president we have report of an enemy fleet attacking our ports permission to launch 23th,24th,30th,2nd,8th, fighter squad" "Permission granted" "Yes sir-get the airbases on the phone have all fighter launched!" "Yes sir"
General Office
"Sir we just recieved call to launch all our fighter and have 2nd and 8th squads around all ports they say were under attack!" "Well what are you waiting for?!" "Yes sir! AB 1-2-3-4-5 scrammbl fighters immediatly! over" "Copy that" "Copy that" "Copy that" "Copy that" "Copy that"
Defense Office, Whiteriver
Nimitz battlegroup we have a situation at the docks report in immeadiatly" "Copy DF we are 10.5 miles nd closing over" "Copy we are going to need your assitiance open fire at any enemy ships over" "Copy DF out"
OOC: internet shutoff from us.
OOC: TUG, can you tell us (OOCly, we won't be able to use the knowledge IC without finding it out with satellites, etc.) where your nuclear facilities are, how they're guarded, what they're like, etc?
The United Government
25-08-2008, 04:06
OOC: TUG, can you tell us (OOCly, we won't be able to use the knowledge IC without finding it out with satellites, etc.) where your nuclear facilities are, how they're guarded, what they're like, etc?
OOC: my nuclear facilities are located 100 miles away from the capital they're guarded currently by fighter at this time and MP's they look like regular factories
Leistung
25-08-2008, 04:07
OOC: How can a silo look like a factory...
OOC: my nuclear facilities are located 100 miles away from the capital they're guarded currently by fighter at this time and MP's they look like regular factories
OOC: Where's your capital? Are the facilities near the coast? How many fighters and what kind? How many MPs are there and what are they armed with? And exactly how many facilities (creation, storage, launch, etc.) are there?
OOC: How can a silo look like a factory...
OOC: I think he's just confusing facility and factory.
The United Government
25-08-2008, 04:17
OOC:My nation is that penisula in russia Okhotsk I think yes there near the coast a few of them half are more inland, 25 F-22 Raptors, 304 Military Police with M16 rifles and SMAW with a couple of ZSU-23-4 and 5 T-90s
Leistung
25-08-2008, 04:20
OOC: I believe you're thinking of Kamchatka. Okhotsk is the sea surrounding Kamchatka. So where exactly are your silos? How many of each (like Zinaire said, how many creation, storage, launch, etc. facilities are there)?
The United Government
25-08-2008, 04:25
OOC:Yeah Kamchatka! my silo are 100 miles from the capital (that small island ) near kamchatka I think karaginsky island there are only 14 silos
OOC: 25 planes and 304 MPs at each or at all of them? And if they're carrying SMAWs, we may not even need to bring our own explosives. =D
The United Government
25-08-2008, 04:46
OOC: 25 planes and 304 MPs at each or at all of them? And if they're carrying SMAWs, we may not even need to bring our own explosives. =D
OOC: well no some facilities have different amounts of MP's yes there carrying SMAWs anything else?
Leistung
25-08-2008, 04:47
OOC: Alright, now what about production facilities--laboratories, assembly areas, etc. Are those all on the same sites as the silos are (that would probably make sense)?
OOC: well no some facilities have different amounts of MP's yes there carrying SMAWs
OOC: But 25 Raptors at each of the 14 silos? That's a lot of planes.
The United Government
25-08-2008, 04:51
OOC:Yes about 350 Raptors production facilities are located on islands near the penusila laboratories are with the silos and assembly areas are near ports. anthing else?
OOC:Yes about 350 Raptors production facilities are located on islands near the penusila laboratories are with the silos and assembly areas are near ports. anthing else?
OOC: 350 F-22s is pretty obscene, especially for something like this. I mean, considering the military paradigm you're using (a large military which doesn't have all that much economic backing), your equipment is bound to be pretty bad (think Soviet stuff) and F-22s don't exactly fit that bill. Even the U.S. only has around 120 Raptors, and they're bigger and use a different paradigm (fewer troops, better equipment).
Alliance Star
25-08-2008, 05:05
((OoC: Sorry to interrupt, but Zinaire did you get my TG?
Also, may I suggest F-15Cs in the place of the F-22s for the cost. Unless it's REALLY bad, then MiG-25/Su-27s.))
((OoC: Sorry to interrupt, but Zinaire did you get my TG?
Also, may I suggest F-15Cs in the place of the F-22s for the cost. Unless it's REALLY bad, then MiG-25/Su-27s.))
OOC: Err...yes....should probably reply to that.
Also, I would suggest going all Soviet/Russian (including planes, small arms, vehicles, etc.) since mixing Western and Russian equipment is a logistical nightmare.
The United Government
25-08-2008, 05:22
OOC:can we get back to the game or something?
Yes I have Soviet/Russian things I put them for specails forces hav them when I need or back up! :)
With a few packages and stuff I managed to get the following:
3,000 SU-37 Superflanker
12 Kuznetsov Class CVN
12,600 T-90
5,600 T-80
163,850 BTR-80
1,000 MI-24 Hinds
500 MI-28 Havocs
2,000 Mig-29 Fulcrum
250 TU-160 Blackjack
798 Scuds launchers
10,000 ZSU-23-4
989 BMP-3
thats all I got for back up
OOC:can we get back to the game or something?
OOC: Well, we need to do this so rules aren't being made up as we go along. I have no further questions though.
The United Government
25-08-2008, 05:37
Well ok then!
And yes I have Soviet/Russian equipment!
With a few packages and stuff I managed to get the following:
3,000 SU-37 Superflanker
12 Kuznetsov Class CVN
12,600 T-90
5,600 T-80
163,850 BTR-80
1,000 MI-24 Hinds
500 MI-28 Havocs
2,000 Mig-29 Fulcrum
250 TU-160 Blackjack
798 Scuds launchers
10,000 ZSU-23-4
989 BMP-3
thats all I got for back up
Sur Abruzzi
25-08-2008, 05:40
OOC: Zinaire- I don't know if you remember me, but during the run down of the invasion of TUG I offered to put peace-keeper's in his land if he would agree to surrender. Anyway, I have a question that NONE of the 10 pages seemed to answer, if you don't mind since I know you guy's are getting ready to move.
One, you guys had a treaty/ceasefire with him that was signed by all parties, and limited his military. How in the heck does he have this many troops and air force planes (the money side not withstanding) and have that NOT be in violation of the treaty?
Two, by CONSERVATIVE estimates you guys knocked his country, military, and production capabilities back 30 years at the least. If I have followed the rules of roleplay correctly, there is NO WAY he has the capabilities to produce nuclear weapons.
So what the HECK is going on here, is he God-Modding again? Because I have a small military, but I would be willing to send troops in support of ANY action against a nation that supplies WMD like they are candy. Sorry for the length.
The United Government
25-08-2008, 05:48
Well in my embassy thread we agreed on not limiting my military!
Stoklomolvi
25-08-2008, 05:51
[OOC: TUG, you're smaller than the USA, and yet your military has more stuff than they do. Your military budget is even smaller than theirs. 12 Kuznetsov class carriers? And yet you sell capitalist stuff at a storefront? 250 Tu-160 supersonic bombers, while the RL Russia has only 35 total built? Seriously, maintaining just this equipment would bankrupt your nation. I have hundreds if not thousands of Tu-160s because my budget is large enough to do so, and all private businesses in Stoklomolvi manufacture munitions. Your nation, on the other hand, manufactures woodchips and furniture. I have my doubts that you can have 12 carriers.]
OOC: Zinaire- I don't know if you remember me, but during the run down of the invasion of TUG I offered to put peace-keeper's in his land if he would agree to surrender. Anyway, I have a question that NONE of the 10 pages seemed to answer, if you don't mind since I know you guy's are getting ready to move.
One, you guys had a treaty/ceasefire with him that was signed by all parties, and limited his military. How in the heck does he have this many troops and air force planes (the money side not withstanding) and have that NOT be in violation of the treaty?
Two, by CONSERVATIVE estimates you guys knocked his country, military, and production capabilities back 30 years at the least. If I have followed the rules of roleplay correctly, there is NO WAY he has the capabilities to produce nuclear weapons.
So what the HECK is going on here, is he God-Modding again? Because I have a small military, but I would be willing to send troops in support of ANY action against a nation that supplies WMD like they are candy. Sorry for the length.
OOC: I don't think I was that involved in that operation. Anyway, as TUG said, Leistung let him off the hook with the military as long as he didn't make any alliances. Although I suppose he did....
The United Government
25-08-2008, 05:55
These are for back up I have people keep them sea and air worthy until needed and my budget stands at 280 billion something.I did not make any other allies Rithian helped me and stuff and Northern baltic helped me to before I lost the invasion.
Well ok then!
And yes I have Soviet/Russian equipment!
With a few packages and stuff I managed to get the following:
3,000 SU-37 Superflanker
12 Kuznetsov Class CVN
12,600 T-90
5,600 T-80
163,850 BTR-80
1,000 MI-24 Hinds
500 MI-28 Havocs
2,000 Mig-29 Fulcrum
250 TU-160 Blackjack
798 Scuds launchers
10,000 ZSU-23-4
989 BMP-3
thats all I got for back up
OOC: This is ridiculous. He has more fighters then even America, and his budget (Not to mention population) is smaller then USA's. Also to add, you've been through a war which would have damaged your infrastructure.
Stoklomolvi
25-08-2008, 06:00
[OOC: TUG, the USA has a military budget of 500 billion+ and has fewer equipment than you.]
The United Government
25-08-2008, 06:02
OOC: please just let thing go please :(
good night!
Sur Abruzzi
25-08-2008, 06:04
OOC: I don't think I was that involved in that operation. Anyway, as TUG said, Leistung let him off the hook with the military as long as he didn't make any alliances. Although I suppose he did....
OOC: I remember that thread because I was going to apply for an embassy in TUG until things broke down again. I found the last post that Leistung put in that thread:
Leistung: 19-08-2008, 19:23
OOC: Fine with me, so long as you use your military for a just cause. Expel T&R immediately.
If you follow the rest of the thread, T&R makes mention of the treaty they were proposing, but TUG NEVER EXPELLED T&R from their treaty, or an embassy (which I believe was implied, but I am not sure). The last thing TUG posted was today, which was a "BUMP" message.
So technically.....isn't TUG right back where he started with - "TUG...will maintain a standing army of 300,000 men (logistics included), no more than 25 ships with no submarines or carriers, and 200 planes with no nuclear bombers."? And if not, say it was forgotten, if the "Invasion of The United Government" thread were to be explored, TUG was destroyed REPEATEDLY even WITHOUT that nuclear bomb confusion (which never happened). He doesn't have the capabilities to even make a AK-47 at this point in his country!
Dang, I have such an itch for war right now, as in very very bored..... ah, well. I'll wait until the fighting actually starts then come in.
Leistung
25-08-2008, 15:33
OOC: Sur Abruzzi, the fact of the matter is that RL time and NS time fluctuates greatly. It is indeed possible for TUG to rebuild in this time, though I agree that his military is too large. That being said, he acquired all his equipment from United Earthling's storefront where he took out a number of massive loans to buy them (he has yet to pay them back), so his military budget doesn't really speak the whole story.
As for the treaty, he expelled T&R from his alliance but not from his nation entirely which is what I was getting at. If we're looking at the treaty in the most nitpicky way possible, yes, he broke it, but that isn't really what this conflict is about.
OOC:May I suggest that Zin makes an ooc thread? So we can move ooc conversation there. So we can focus solely on ic things in this one.
Leistung
25-08-2008, 15:41
OOC: I'll just do it, I'm sure Zin won't mind.
OOC: I'll just do it, I'm sure Zin won't mind.
OOC: Gracias
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From: The Zinairian Military Authority
To: Jan Tirpitz
Re: Op. United Strike
Priority: Urgent
Encryption: Level 5
"The Capitalist Storefront" has recently started advertising uranium, both enriched and depleted, and mustard gas. We can only assume that the uranium is being domestically mined and we feel it warrant further inspection. Chemical weapons should be a secondary priority.
The Zinairian Military Authority does not divulge classified information, information with the potential to endanger military operators or information related to another government entity without explicit permission to do so. If you believe you have received information in error, please report it immediately.
Islamajudianity
25-08-2008, 23:39
To: The United Government
From: Islamajudianitian High Command
We have noticed that you are now selling uranium and mustard gas from "The Capitalist Storefront" of your nation. At first, we were prepared to take nonviolent actions in order to stop you from the advertisement of such deadly materials, which are at prices low enough every terrorist and their cousin could get their hands on them, but now we are prepared to stop you by different means.
Cease the sale of all nuclear and chemical weapons immediately or face the consequences. Send us your answer, if you do not respond we will take action.
OOC: Ooh, this is better then cable. "The United Government and The Ignore Cannon star together in Operation United Strike!!!"
OOC: Ooh, this is better then cable. "The United Government and The Ignore Cannon star together in Operation United Strike!!!"
OOC: If you were actually reading the thread you would know 1) TUG isnt ignoring this, 2) there's an OOC thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=563956).
I know, I was making a joke, and I didn't see the link for the OOC thread anywhere. I just heard that they made one.
Leistung
26-08-2008, 01:38
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Official Communiqué
Republic of Leistung
To: ZMA
From: Ministry of Defense
Subj: Enriching Sites
Dear God, it seems that they will never stop. Uranium mines and chemical production sites will be secondary when we choose to attack, however, as their activities are not directly threatening us as silos and nuclear production sites do.
As for the uranium enriching going on, know that these sites are new top priorities for us, and will be sure to target them once our assault begins.
Sincerely,
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Jan Tirpitz
Minister of Defense for the Republic of Leistung
Leistung
26-08-2008, 03:36
OOC: Considered secret IC between myself and TUG; Zinaire knows as well
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Official Communiqué
Republic of Leistung
To: Office of the President
From: Ministry of Defense
Subj: Ultimatum
In light of recent offenses regarding the sale of nuclear and chemical weapons, we have prepared an ultimatum for your government.
The President of the United Government has forty-eight hours to immediately dismantle their existing weapons of mass destruction and submit to foreign weapon inspection to ensure that your nation will never again threaten the world with wars of aggression and the constant threat of chemical or nuclear attack. In addition to this, the ruling body of TUG as well as the board of directors for the Capitalist Storefront (if it is a government-run organization, the president will do) will stand trial in an international court and a new ruling body will be elected by the United Government people.
If our demands are not met in the allocated time, we will be forced to take military action to again topple a corrupt and dangerous regime.
Cordially,
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Jan Tirpitz
Minister of Defense for the Republic of Leistung
SIC:
*OFFICIAL COMMUNIQUE*
TO: All nations involved with TUG
As you may already know, the Commonwealth of Tolvan has issued an ultimatum to TUG for them to cease and desist their reckless policies of selling WMD materials to all comers. As of now we have imposed economic sanctions but we fear that these will not be enough to sway the fools who "lead" this nation from their course.
As a result the Commonwealth offers its assurances of limited support should you use to undertake military operations to eliminate this threat to international stability.
With Regards,
Tyler Hutchins
Prime Minister
Commonwealth of Tolvan
OOC: This is an encyrpted communique to Zinaire, Leistung, etc. TUG can't have IC knowledge of its contents.
SIC:
OOC: This is an encyrpted communique to Zinaire, Leistung, etc. TUG can have IC knowledge of its contents.
OOC: You can't fully be sure if it's 100% encrypted. The only way to do that is by DKey, which I know you're not using.
OOC: I highly doubt TUG has the assets to eavesdrop on my comms since my stuff is worlds ahead of anything he can realistically afford no matter how many loans he gets from UEMS.
Leistung
27-08-2008, 00:04
*bump for TUG
The United Government
27-08-2008, 00:12
Defense Office
"Tell The Northern Batlics about whats going on keep'em pdated of whats happening!" "Yes sir I will have a messager be sent to them" "The rithics as well!"
"Yes sir"
Leistung
27-08-2008, 00:13
OOC: I have to go soon, but...my ultimatum?
The United Government
27-08-2008, 00:23
OOC: I have to go soon, but...my ultimatum?
What ultimatum
Sarrowquand
27-08-2008, 00:37
Having made arrangements to tour The United Government's uranium the five representatives of The dark moons of Zaros boarded a plane to TUG. Their flight plan would have them land in around 16 hours.
OOC: Rithian can I claim that the plane is departing from your state? As I guess that your airports fly to TUG.
The United Government
27-08-2008, 01:08
OOC: Considered secret IC between myself and TUG; Zinaire knows as well
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Official Communiqué
Republic of Leistung
To: Office of the President
From: Ministry of Defense
Subj: Ultimatum
In light of recent offenses regarding the sale of nuclear and chemical weapons, we have prepared an ultimatum for your government.
The President of the United Government has forty-eight hours to immediately dismantle their existing weapons of mass destruction and submit to foreign weapon inspection to ensure that your nation will never again threaten the world with wars of aggression and the constant threat of chemical or nuclear attack. In addition to this, the ruling body of TUG as well as the board of directors for the Capitalist Storefront (if it is a government-run organization, the president will do) will stand trial in an international court and a new ruling body will be elected by the United Government people.
If our demands are not met in the allocated time, we will be forced to take military action to again topple a corrupt and dangerous regime.
Cordially,
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Jan Tirpitz
Minister of Defense for the Republic of Leistung
OOC:ohhh.. you mean this ultimatum
IC:
Telegram
To:Leistung
From: The United Government
Kiss my A**
Richard J. Stuart
Islamajudianity
27-08-2008, 01:16
To: Sarrowquand
From: Islamajudianitian High Command
You may be in danger as military strikes on The United Government's facilities may occur soon. We would like to know what facility you are heading towards in order to make sure you remain safe.
Sarrowquand
27-08-2008, 02:17
To: Islamajudianitian High Command
From:The Bureau of Foriegn affairs: Grey 47,260: Sarrowquand
As far as we are aware we have no personel in The United Government. Was this message intended for a specific office?
However we thankyou for your concerns.
Leistung
27-08-2008, 04:51
OOC:ohhh.. you mean this ultimatum
*snip*
7:35 PM, BMS Wolfhound
Intl Waters, 430 nautical miles from TUG
Sergeant Gruber stood in front of the assembled group of more than five hundred men on the deck of the BMS Wolfhound, an Eagle Class aviation carrier which was currently holding position outside the United Government territorial waters. Each of them was looking intently at the map to his back and taking notes as he spoke, stoic looks on their faces.
“Men, I’m about to put you in harm’s way,” he began. He found it easier to embolden his men by letting them see how strong they really were. “It is very likely that some, many, even all of us will never make it back to our homes, to our families. If there are any among us who do not wish to participate in this mission, walk away right now and you will be called neither coward nor traitor.”
No one budged.
“That’s what I thought,” he said, allowing a slight smile to creep across his face and turning to face the map of the United Government on the bulkhead behind him. “Men, our plan is both simple and ingenious. We will strike fast and hard at sites discovered via satellite, sites which are known to aid in the production and firing of weapons of mass destruction, with 32-man teams armed with both assault weapons and laser designators.” He paused for a moment to point out the fourteen sites on the map, circling each with a red marker. “We know that the enemy is on alert, but they will likely be expecting a full-scale attack rather than a lighting strike. To keep this thought in their minds, our allies in Zinaire will be deploying a carrier battlegroup outside TUG’s waters to keep their minds focused on the possibility of a massive attack.”
“From the seas,” he continued, “will come the special forces of Zinaire, striking chemical plants and port facilities. They may or may not aid in the striking of silos, but we should assume that we will be on our own, and act as such.” He stopped again, trying to find the best way to say the rest of his well-rehearsed speech. “I’m sure I don’t have to remind you of the consequences should our operations fail. The fates of not only our families, but the families of free men everywhere depend on your actions here on this day. Good luck to us all and God speed. Dismissed.”
The men stood at attention and saluted before running off to their respective helicopters. The trip to the United Government nuclear sites would take nearly two and a half hours and the troops still needed to get confirmation that the Zinairian elements were in place.
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Official Communiqué
Republic of Leistung
To: ZMA
From: Ministry of Defense
Subj: Commence
The United Government has officially broken off negotiations. We will be moving out at exactly 7:55 PM and ask that you go ahead with mission objectives as discussed. Abort code is "Raven."
Sincerely,
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Jan Tirpitz
Minister of Defense for the Republic of Leistung
7:00 PM, Zinairian Naval Base Two (NW)
Vice Admiral Carl Moore smirked as he read the communiqué from TUG that arrived on his desk courtesy of the Republic of Leistung,
"Let's hope we teach those sons of bitches some manners." He muttered to himself as he folded the letter and returned it to his desk drawer.
The naval forces had known for some time that they could be seeing combat for the first time in years. The SEALs especially had been preparing for their mission and it seemed like the time had finally come.
7:35 PM, Pacific Ocean
A pack of six Defiance Class submarines with their ASDS minisubs attached were powering through the ocean less than 300 miles off The United Government's coast. Each sub carried sixteen special operators that would eventually land on the coast.
The jubilance of the SEALs was only dampened by the equipment they had been issued; the special operators had anticipated being the first Zinairians to use the K28 (in commando configuration), but instead, because of their amphibious insertion, they had been issued HK416s which are renowned for their water resistance. In addition to their standard equipment, the SEALs carried C4 and laser designators in waterproof packages.
The strike was behind schedule as the SEALs were supposed to be in position when the communiqué from TUG came in. However, the submarines still had several hours of travel until they came into range of the coast.
The two carrier battle groups had faced a challenge in reaching TUG and they had eventually been forced to navigate around the South Pole, resulting in a path thousands of miles and two weeks longer than the one taken by the submarines. Even though they left earlier and were making good time, the two groups would arrive days after the submarines–*possibly just in time to turn around and go home. (OOC: In short, curse my lack of a Pacific fleet!).
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From: The Zinairian Military Authority
To: Jan Tirpitz
Re: Op. United Strike
Priority: Urgent
Encryption: Level 5
Zinairian submarines are currently more than eight hours from their objective, a strike within the next half hour is not possible.
Because of the size of many of the ships involved, our surface fleet was forced to take the long way around and is still days from TUG. If they are integral in distracting TUG naval forces, the strike will have to be put off longer. We apologize for the delays.
The Zinairian Military Authority does not divulge classified information, information with the potential to endanger military operators or information related to another government entity without explicit permission to do so. If you believe you have received information in error, please report it immediately.
Leistung
27-08-2008, 05:19
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Official Communiqué
Republic of Leistung
To: ZMA
From: Ministry of Defense
Subj: Delays
The delay is actually very inconveniencing. Unfortunately, our forces will have to wait until 7:55 PM of the following day to move out, as our timetable for the assault must be timed to the exact minute. All-in-all, it is simply an inconvenience to tell our troops to stand down, as there is currently no real threat being posed by TUG forces, and we are anchored well outside territorial waters. Your surface fleet as a diversionary force is not entirely necessary, but will be helpful should the situation turn sour.
Sincerely,
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Jan Tirpitz
Minister of Defense for the Republic of Leistung
The United Government
27-08-2008, 05:23
OOC:isn't NSmonth about 2 hours so try and do that it happens in minutes in RL doesn't?
good night!
Leistung
27-08-2008, 05:27
OOC: I try and avoid linking RL and NS time. Suffice to say that my next post will be my men fast-roping into your nation, and it'll come only after Zinaire's men are in position. Unfortunately, I'm unable to answer your question because...I have no clue what you're asking.
Sarrowquand
27-08-2008, 05:33
11:00 PM
The plane carrying the representatives of Zaros was due to touch down in TUG shortly. Their leader Sarah Oshien was pleased, everything was going as planned now that some loose ends had been tied up. The four person group carried with them two large steel boxes and were dressed in the dark blue and silver of the moon worshipers.
2:30 AM, 430 Nautical Miles from TUG
"There she is," Captain Eugene London said, pointing to a dot on the screen, "that's the Wolfhound." Capt. London was the commander of the ZSV Tang as well as the entire pack of submarines.
The commander shuffled to another console in the cramped bridge and radioed the Leistungian (OOC: I still don't know the correct demonym) ship. "BMS Wolfhound, do you read? This is Captain Eugene London, commander of the Zinairian Service Vessel Tang. We are one of six submarines sent on an insertion mission. All six craft will be surfacing shortly."
Once the commanding officer gave the order, the ballast tanks in the six submarines began to empty out and more or less in synch, the six craft popped out of the water near the Wolfhound.
Leistung
27-08-2008, 06:37
OOC: The demonym is Leistungi (I worked for a while on that one). I really ought to put that in my sig...anyways, I'm seriously exhausted right now, so I'm going to wait for tomorrow when I can think straight for an IC post.
North Pali, Rithian.
"Sire, The United Government has been invaded again." the messenger said to the secretary. "Mr. Viteore is currently flying back from Leistung, can I take a message?" the secretary asked. "Simply tell him we have a code black in the military office." he replied. "Oh my, that sounds serious." the secretary's face changed to worried. "Oh, it is." said the man.
Rithic-Leistungi Airway
"Mr. Viteore, a messenger from the military department called, we have a code black." the secretary spoke into the phone. Onboard the plane Viteore sighed. "I can't deal with this right now, patch it in to Edgar." said Viteore. After he hung up, he just realized the magnitude of a code black.
Pali, Underground Meeting Room
"Mr. Ledan, Mr. Viteore said to patch into you that we have a code black in the NE." said the secretary. Edgar Ledan's eyes widened. A code black? It couldn't be, it shouldn't be! He yelled into the phone. "Put this in to the Ministry of Defense and Offense." the secretary annoyedly replied "Yes sir."
Pali, Ministry of Defense and Offense
"Mr. Nagano, Mr. Viteore patched this into Mr. Ledan and he told me to patch it into you." the secretary said into the phone. "Well, what is it?" said the annoyed minister. "We have a code black in the NE." she replied, hoping for a good response. He gasped, He quickly said "I'll get right on it, thank you Mrs. Leio." he said. The secretary put down the phone and looked relieved. Nagano quickly fired up his laptop and accessed TUG's current wars. There, sitting blankly on the page all alone, was Operation United Strike. He picked up his phone and called the Army Base in the NE.
Vedan, Army Base
"Yes, yes I want Penuema, oh JUST GIVE HIM TO ME." shouted Nagano. Penuema answered the phone. "Yes, is something the matter Mr. Nagano?" he said wearily, Mr. Nagano was known for his temper. "OF COURSE SOMETHING IS WRONG, WHY ELSE WOULD I BE CALLING YOU?" Nagano shouted into the phone, simultaneously, Penuema backed up. "What is wrong sir?" he asked. "Well, there's a war going on in TUG, I want a full 100-set NE Peacekeeping squad there immediately!!!." said Nagano. "Yes sir." replied Penuema, and after putting the phone down, he sighed, pressed the blue button on his desk, and put in the United Government card.
Leistung
27-08-2008, 16:42
Message to incoming Zinarian forces [stop]
Operations have been delayed until 7:55 PM [stop]
Welcome to the fight Tang
[full stop]
2:30 AM, BMS Wolfhound
Intl Waters, 430 nautical miles from TUG
Captain Faust picked up the radio and added to the coded message sent with words. "Tang, is there a special forces commander on board your vessel? Our KSK Group leader would like to have a word with him to discuss planning and timing of the operations." Sergeant Gruber stood behind him with his arms crossed, waiting eagerly to speak to his counterpart on the Zinairian side.
As they waited for the response from the Tang, the Captain took the opportunity to speak to the Sergeant, a man he had never before met. Generally the Bundesmarine and Bundesheer commanders didn't meet each other on a mission, but this was a special case, and the Captain always found it better to know the men under his command.
"So, Sergeant, do you think there's any danger in keeping the fleet here for another day?" he said.
"Not much," he responded, cocking his head slightly to the side. "See, TUG is involved with operations overseas right now, and even if he did detect us, we're legally in international waters, and untouchable." Suddenly, static came from the radio. The Zinairian ship was responding.
TO: The United Government
We are hereby issuing an ultimatum. As of 1300 Granton time you have five hours upon delivery of this message to begin to stop your uranium enrichment program and the sale of nuclear and atomic weapons. If you do not we shall have no choice but to use force.
His Most Imperial Majesty Emperor Samuel II
Sir Thomas Thaxton Prime Minister
Baron Sir Charles Hassahoff Foreign Minister
Lord Sir Reginald Cooper Defense Minister
The Rithic troops finally were able to fly to TUG in their helicopters. The paratrooping army dropped at once, gently settling on the terrain they knew all too well. The troops got to work setting up camp, and the engineers that had arrived in the nighthawk unloaded Comm. Equipment. One of the pieces of equipment was an international phone. He dialed in the TUG Ministry of Defense number and waited for someone to pick up on the other end.
Leistung
27-08-2008, 21:33
OOC: I realize the eagerness of everyone to help, but Zinaire and I have been planning this operation for some time now, and would really appreciate it if no one interfered by launching an invasion (Findan).
OOC: I realize the eagerness of everyone to help, but Zinaire and I have been planning this operation for some time now, and would really appreciate it if no one interfered by launching an invasion (Findan).
OOC: I was just going to bomb his harbors and other port cities. Maybe occupy a port or two to prevent the shipment of the nukes and uranium. Othwerwise the rest is yours.
Leistung
27-08-2008, 21:42
OOC: Ah! In that case, go right ahead, but kindly allow our special forces to eliminate the silos before you move in. We're aiming for surprise.
Don't bother with an ultimatum; he'll say no for sure.
2:30 AM, ZSV Tang
"Affirmative, I have Lieutenant Class II (OOC: O-3) Charles Murphy of the SEALs here. I'm going to put him on now." There was a short pause as the Captain handed the radio to the younger Lieutenant. "Lieutenant Murphy here. I would like to begin by asking why the operation is being delayed until this evening. If we were to move immediately, we'd be at the coast before first light."
Sur Abruzzi
27-08-2008, 22:29
As per our previous telegram discussion
To: Leistung Ministry of Defense
From: Sur Abruzzi Department of Defense
I have been authorized by the Prime Minister to offer military aid to your nation in the event of an invasion or other operations against the WMD productions, sales, and possession by The United Government. It is not a large force by any means, as we will be launching our first military offensive operation, but we would like to offer it any way.
We will be able to send 1 naval Carrier group with the following ships and aircraft:
5 FFG Class Frigates
3 DDG Class Destroyers
3 DDGN Class Destroyers
3 CRSG Class Crusier's
1 "Triumph" Class Carrier codenamed "USS Towamencin" with an air wing consisting of:
12 x Hawker Cossack S.2 Mk2 Strike Bombers
12 x Blackburn Beaufort FGR.2 Light Fighters
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6 x Westland Wellington SAR.1 Variant HELOs
2 x Supermarine Sirius AS.2
1 x Supermarine Sportsman AEW.1
(Full specs and ship names along with what weapons my men will be carrying can be posted in the "OCC" thread if desired)
Along with the 82nd Regiment of the Abruzzian Army consisting of 10,000 men plus logistical support. The Carrier group will be lead by Admiral William Burr, and the 82nd Regiment will be lead by General Joseph Rielly. I have been further authorized to notify you that the ground forces, once they land, will be placed under the command of the Lesitungi forces to be used as they please. We will be ready to mobilize as soon as you give the word that you need us on the field of battle.
With regards,
James Prescott
Defense Secretary
OOC: TUG informed me on the Amethyst Watch program. So it's a response with IC validity. Also, we're getting some odd times here, because you guys are talking in hours, days even. And my post is talking seconds, maximum 2 minutes.
The United Government
27-08-2008, 22:53
Defense Office
"Sir we have The rithics on the phone" "What are they saying?" "they want to talk to you"
"Hane we heard anything from our outpost yet? Call them in for a staus report" "Yes sir" OP B-45-123 do you copy over" "We copy over" "Status Report" "We have no activity what so ever over" "Copy over and out" "They have no report on anthing"
Leistung
27-08-2008, 23:02
OOC: 8 knots? Seriously? Most modern SSNs can hit at least 25 underwater, if not more.
2:31 AM, BMS Wolfhound
Intl Waters, 430 nautical miles from TUG
"Lieutenant, this is Sergeant Gruber of the 7th KSK Group speaking. Unfortunately there's been some sort of a mix-up about the timing of our operations, but let us assure you that you are correct on this matter. Because of the high speeds of our helicopters, we completely forgot about the fact that your forces were being deployed underwater and via submarine. Feel free move out right now--we'll launch our men when you're about 2.5 hours away. Gruber, over and out."
The sergeant put down the radio receiver and peered out the bridge windows, watching as the Zinairian submarines sunk again beneath the waves.
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Official Communiqué
Republic of Leistung
To: SADD
From: Ministry of Defense
Subj: Large fleet approaching
We very much appreciate your offer, and accept it. We ask, however, that you wait in international waters until given the green light to attack, as our forces are aiming for surprise and would very much like to avoid WMD's being used.
Your most generous offer of 10,000 troops to the cause is a welcome addition, especially considering that the Leistungi and Zinairian special forces teams together equal only about 600 men. What we are about to ask you to do with them, however, may be unpopular with both you and our other allies. Because of TUG's interesting geographical location (OOC: Kamchatka), we would ask that you land your forces on the tip of the peninsula as a diversionary force. There, they will proceed to capture towns along the coast and hopefully draw troops away from our real targets, the silos.
Unfortunately, the trouble in being the diversionary force is that you'll be forced to take the brunt of the attack. Our only consolation is that the operation will be a quick one, and hopefully by the time TUG knows your troops have landed our mission will be complete and your troops will be evacuated. We fully understand if you would rather take on other duties in the campaign.
Sincerely,
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Jan Tirpitz
Minister of Defense for the Republic of Leistung
The United Government
27-08-2008, 23:09
Defense Office
"Have all our ships move to all ports" "Have all fighters and ground forces move to our facilities and fortify" "put them on high alert"
Sur Abruzzi
27-08-2008, 23:12
To: Leistung Ministry of Defense
From: Sur Abruzzi Defense Department
Our naval forces are almost in position along international waters near TUG. We will alert your capital ship of their presence as soon as we arrive. On the matter of your request for the specific use of our forces, we accept that honor and the orders have been forwarded to the General. We await the time in which our men can serve with your's on the field of battle.
With regards,
James Prescott
Secretary of Defense
OOC: When exactly would you like me to RP this all out? Now?
Leistung
27-08-2008, 23:14
OOC:
@Abruzzi: Just wait for Zinaire's forces to get into position. Once we make landfall, launch your assault.
@TUG: Why are you on high alert if only a few minutes ago your forces said everything was fine?
OOC: The main subs can supposedly do up to 33 knots, but the minisubs can only do 8.
2:31 AM, ZMS Tang
"Affirmative. We will be in position by 19:55." Came Capt. London's reply as the submarines went under. With the operation behind schedule, the submarines ramped up their speed to a 30 knot sprint.
The subs would proceed 400 miles before releasing their minisubs. Then, the SEALs would proceed to the coast in the smaller, stealthier craft.
Sur Abruzzi
27-08-2008, 23:37
OOC: My ORBAT is up in the OCC thread
IC:
2:35 AM, USS Towamencin
Intl waters, 450 nautical miles from TUG
"Affirmative. We have arrived in International waters outside of TUG, and will be ready to go by 19:55 at the latest." Admiral Burr radioed to Leistung's capital ship.
"Please pass along knowledge of this to Zinaire's forces as well, so we can coordinate. Over." Admiral Burr radioed and waited for a reply.
2:36 AM, In the Briefing room of the USS Towamencin
General Reilly was tired of waiting on Abruzzian soil. He was a military man, and all he had seen in his 25 years of service was mop-up operations against rebel hold-outs in the Northern province. He was finally ready to prove his worth to the government in an international conflict. As he looked across the briefing room at the young men of the 82nd Regiment, men he had trained personally for 5 years now, he couldn't help but feel a twinge of pride. Sur Abruzzi was going to war.
"We have our orders men. We will have the honor today of sharing the field of battle with our friends in Leistung and Zinaire to stop a threat to international security posed by a rogue regime. Let's go over the orders to make sure we get this one right!" the General bellowed in a fashion that surprised his men.
OOC: My orbat is also up in the OOC thread. Also, TUG, never RP for my troops again.
"I'm getting a reading, priority has changed from Neutral to Red." said the communications manager to the active commander. "Hmm, interesting, call them back up." said Commander Leonidas. "Yes sir, I will immediately." the Comm. manager said. "Hello, we're getting a reading that you changed priority from neutral to high alert, is something wrong, or is the Amethyst intranet experiencing some technical difficulties?" he said into the phone, as it spat out static.
The United Government
28-08-2008, 01:27
Defense Office
"We have satelitte images coming in of a fleet just east of us" as he said also trying to speak thru the static
"Interesting, we don't have any naval forces, but we'll slap a Paste monitor on one of the boats with a blackhawk. A soldier took out a small paste monitor and climbed onto a blackhawk along with a pilot, he stood, ready to throw, as it took him out to the east sea, he dropped the monitor, it's tiny titanium shell ready to protect it from impact. As he saw it fall, he flew away, and opened up the BlackHawk computer screen and watched it fall, slowly, to descend into the abyss.
Leistung
28-08-2008, 01:44
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Official Communiqué
Republic of Leistung
To: TUG
From: Ministry of Defense
Subj: Apologies
Before you get frightened by the number of ships stalled outside your territorial waters, let us first explain the situation. At 7:30 last night, the ship you may have already seen had a minor explosion in the boiler room, causing a chain reaction which took the vessel temporarily out of commission. Unfortunately, as our fleets were tied up elsewhere, we were forced to appeal to our friends in Sur Abruzzi to send aid vessels, which they have already done.
I do not wish to frighten you, but before the vessel cut off communication, there were signs of a struggle, and it is entirely possible that a mutiny has taken place on the ship, which is why Sur Abruzzi has sent military vessels to accompany their repair ships. Please note that the situation is well in hand, and no aid from yourself is necessary.
Sincerely,
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Jan Tirpitz
Minister of Defense for the Republic of Leistung
"Interesting, we don't have any naval forces, but we'll slap a Paste monitor on one of the boats with a blackhawk. A soldier took out a small paste monitor and climbed onto a blackhawk along with a pilot, he stood, ready to throw, as it took him out to the east sea, he dropped the monitor, it's tiny titanium shell ready to protect it from impact. As he saw it fall, he flew away, and opened up the BlackHawk computer screen and watched it fall, slowly, to descend into the abyss.
OOC: Ummm...did you just mark one of our ships with something without giving us a chance to shoot down the helicopter that 1) would have had at least 2.5 hours to fly and 2) is kind of noticeable?
The United Government
28-08-2008, 02:04
Defense Office
"Sir they said they have no naval force" "See if you can give them some of our ships"
"Yes sir" "Rithin we will gladly give you the following:
2 Nimitz Class CVN
3 Kuznetsov Class CVN
12 Emperor Class Battle cruiser CGN
20 Arleigh Burke Class DDG
7 Ocean class Helicopter Carrier
3 Shadow Harbor Class LHD
5 Supply Class AOE Auxiliaries
35 Dolphion Class SSK
2 Ohio Class SSBN
3 Seawolf Class SSN
19 Island Class WPB
2 Avenger Class AOE
5 Stuart Class FFG
please accept these ships in your Armed Forces"
Islamajudianity
28-08-2008, 02:40
To: Republic of Leistung
From: Islamajudianitian High Command
We have a common foe and wish to stop The United Government from endangering the world any further.
We have assembled a naval force and special operations force that can help you with any operations you may need them on. We are prepared to follow the lead of your troops on any attack on TUG's nuclear weapons' facilities and chemical weapons laboritories.
The United Government
28-08-2008, 03:18
100th Shark Squad
"SS to DO we have a Zinairian fleet incoming on our positions over" "Copy that open fire"
12 Seawolf Class subs, 35 Dolphin class subs,9 Great White Subs,5 Ohio Class sub, and 1Stingray Class SSN have spotted a Ziniairan fleet 500 miles from the coast
"All subs fire for effect over enemy spotted in sector A cordniates 19.5 Aplha 18.2 Bravo Target heading south at 30 knots confirm command"
"Command Confirmed for for effect"
"Shark 1 foxtrot 2 away"
"Shark 12 foxtrot 2 away"
"Ohio 1-2-3-4-5 Surfacing preparing to fire Harpoons over"
"Copy that"
"Comfirm the hit"
Sur Abruzzi
28-08-2008, 03:27
OOC: TUG....did you just fire on a foreign naval force in International waters? Please tell me you didn't just do that...:mad:
The United Government
28-08-2008, 03:57
OOC:I did.
OOC: Can we just drop some Napalm on him and let the fire do the dirty work?
The United Government
28-08-2008, 04:21
OOC:well that will be killing civilans and Zinaire and Leistung are just trying to destroy my facilities. So take things slowly here alright.
OOC: This whole thing seems a bit much for a dude selling nukes. In the real world wouldn't we start off by banning all imports from his country and all exports to his country in mass and then watching his economy slowly cripple.
The United Government
28-08-2008, 04:35
Well that seems like a good idea though. be patient.
OOC: This whole thing seems a bit much for a dude selling nukes. In the real world wouldn't we start off by banning all imports from his country and all exports to his country in mass and then watching his economy slowly cripple.
OOC: Well, it was intended as a quick in-and-out thing with less than 100 guys. But as you can see, it's snowballed.
And dearest TUG, he meant drop napalm on you,
Sur Abruzzi
28-08-2008, 05:00
OOC: Zinaire, I am still trying to help you and Leistung achieve that, because yes....it has snowballed. If my presence is muking-up matters I can pull out so you guys can get this mission FINISHED.
OOC: Zinaire, I am still trying to help you and Leistung achieve that, because yes....it has snowballed. If my presence is muking-up matters I can pull out so you guys can get this mission FINISHED.
OOC: I don't think you're our problem. If I had to guess, I'd say the main problem with this RP begins with a "T" and ends with a "G" (and there might be a "U" somewhere in the middle).
OOC: You know...a little napalm never hurt anyone...it just burns a lot...
Sur Abruzzi
28-08-2008, 05:29
OOC: Zinaire.... I agree with you (and thanks for the vote of confidence! [I am not being sarcastic]). Roma, I love napalm. But if I allow you to do that, my country will call for my Prime Minister and my Defense Secretary's respective heads, hahaha.
OOC: Don't worry we'll mourn their lack of heads in the press and set up scholarships. >_>
Sarrowquand
28-08-2008, 05:59
The members of the Dark Moon of Zaros had all been seached by TUG forces since landing and now awaited clearance to move on to The United Government's uranium enrichment facilities. None of the group had been carrying anything more then a mobile phone or a pistol. The two steel boxes had not yet been opened and the followers of Zaros wondered if this was what was causing the delay. They had already told the TUG forces that one box contained a sum of NSD$ whilst the other held the equipment needed to varify the quality of the uranium. Both were code locked and the group prefered that they not be opened until they reached the facilities. After all their equipment was delicate and that much currency might well tempt a low ranking soldier.
........................................
Meanwhile a DoSF listed cargo ship, The Kindling approached TUG waters its mandate listed its intent to buy TUG beer and spirits for import into Sarrowquand.
And on another angle a DoS Coastguard submarine slipped closer to another of TUG's ports.
OOC: Ummm...did you just mark one of our ships with something without giving us a chance to shoot down the helicopter that 1) would have had at least 2.5 hours to fly and 2) is kind of noticeable?
Uhh sorry, just to clear up a bit of confusion, no, I did not drop it on your ship, I said I saw your ship in sight, and technically, we are not enemies yet. (ICly, you don't know we're there.) I simply dropped it and got the signal, and that's how I check progression.
Uhh sorry, just to clear up a bit of confusion, no, I did not drop it on your ship, I said I saw your ship in sight, and technically, we are not enemies yet. (ICly, you don't know we're there.) I simply dropped it and got the signal, and that's how I check progression.
OOC: What was is exactly? A sonobuoy?
The Northern Baltic
28-08-2008, 20:32
An announcement was made today by the United Worker's Republic that a vote of confidence was held on if The United Government's membership in The United Worker's Republic should be continued. The United Government lost the vote which began at the request of the Chairman from The Northern Baltic, and resulted in the expulsion of The United Government from The UWR. Another announcement stated that all troops in The United Government will be pulled out immediately. All United Government citizens currently in The UWR are ordered to report to their nearest TUG embassy or consulate, so paperwork can be filled out if they wish to remain in The UWR legally. They will be given two weeks amnesty. In a final announcement, the UWR recommended that all of its citizens currently in TUG return home immediately due to the threat of war and the removal of TUG from the UWR.
Leistung
28-08-2008, 20:59
100th Shark Squad
"SS to DO we have a Zinairian fleet incoming on our positions over" "Copy that open fire"
12 Seawolf Class subs, 35 Dolphin class subs,9 Great White Subs,5 Ohio Class sub, and 1Stingray Class SSN have spotted a Ziniairan fleet 500 miles from the coast
"All subs fire for effect over enemy spotted in sector A cordniates 19.5 Aplha 18.2 Bravo Target heading south at 30 knots confirm command"
"Command Confirmed for for effect"
"Shark 1 foxtrot 2 away"
"Shark 12 foxtrot 2 away"
"Ohio 1-2-3-4-5 Surfacing preparing to fire Harpoons over"
"Copy that"
"Comfirm the hit"
OOC: A few things: (this annoyed me enough to post it in the IC section)
1) You can't just say, "Oh, I see you! These submarines are submarine, and extremely stealthy.
2) These vessels were in international waters, firing upon them is an act of war.
3) You're godmodding by claiming that the harpoon (not an anti-submarine missile) hit.
OOC: Leistung, can we discuss some invasion related things via tg?
In a ground-breaking announcement at the BSO headquarters, the nation of Rithian is writing up a bill to allow TUG to be protected by it's members, and in turn, TUG will allow his land to be used for military exercises(Only a few miles, and no nukes will be fired.)
In general speaking, before the bill is voted on, the contact came in to TUG to see if they agree with the terms.
The United Government
28-08-2008, 22:58
OOC: A few things: (this annoyed me enough to post it in the IC section)
1) You can't just say, "Oh, I see you! These submarines are submarine, and extremely stealthy.
2) These vessels were in international waters, firing upon them is an act of war.
3) You're godmodding by claiming that the harpoon (not an anti-submarine missile) hit.
OOC:I didn't say it hit I said didi hit by saying Comfrin the hit
OOC:I didn't say it hit I said didi hit by saying Comfrin the hit
OOC: I think we could avoid incidents like this if you just wrote in a way that actually makes sense. Last I checked, English is the language of choice in Arizona, so you shouldn't have a problem.
Also, please address Leistung's other two points.
1) You can't just say, "Oh, I see you! These submarines are submarine, and extremely stealthy.
2) These vessels were in international waters, firing upon them is an act of war.
Also, let's not ignore the fact that you just used more submarines than all those commissioned by the US navy (well, nearly). The US is bigger and wealthier than you.
Leistung
29-08-2008, 01:24
OOC: Zinaire, TUG did not state in any way why he would attack Zinairian ships (or how he would detect them) despite being given ample time to respond, so I'm going to vote in favor of an ignore shield around your subs until TUG can come up with some reasoning. Feel free to continue with your operations as if nothing happened.
The United Government
29-08-2008, 15:59
OOC:Well ok then there were no subs in interntional waters
Leistung
29-08-2008, 20:14
OOC: TUG, what are you talking about? Zinaire's subs were in intl waters, your subs attacked them in intl waters.
Markiana
30-08-2008, 13:40
To: all nations involved
From: Markiana
We are shocked by the news of TUG selling NBC weapons, So in name of the Markianan people we ask to stop selling these weapons.
We don't want to see this conflict end in a full scale war. We like to see that both sides come together in a peacemeeting where they will solve the problem as mature people.
We also ask kindly not to invade TUG territory unless no other ways of solving the problem can be found, because this will harm innocent people instead of the TUG goverment.
Mark Heurman
President of Markiana
Burtilana
30-08-2008, 14:04
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA
TO: all nations against TUG
FROM: President Vladimir Burte, USSB
RE: Carriers
I hope that somehow this unprecedent attack on my nation by TUG will eventually be their downfall. Without the 5 carriers and God knows what else the foolish government has sent, they should be an easier target back in this conflict.
Good luck to you all!
Leistung
30-08-2008, 16:49
OOC: Sorry about this Zinaire, but I'm kind of waiting for you to post that your troops have landed (or are at least close)
OOC: Gosh, I might pull out soon, this thing has a lot of bandwagoners. I hate it sometimes when people do that, they all pile on one side, so the other side has to pull out cuz they don't want to die, then the whole RP just goes downhill.
Sur Abruzzi
31-08-2008, 02:48
OOC: I am getting REALLY antsy to get this thing going. How did we get to 16 pages, and we haven't launched anything yet? Is TUG just IGNORING this thread completely?
Also, Leistung, I didn't know whether to telegram you or not, but I placed a naval purchase in your storefront thread.
OOC: Hmm, If I can convince the BSO to get involved we might have a nice RP huh?
Leistung
31-08-2008, 03:34
OOC: Yeah, TUG appears to be ignoring us (btw, he has no viable reason to ignore us, so this is extremely poor RPing on his part). And thanks Sur, I'll check it out.
OOC: Well lets set a deadline and if TUG doesn't respond. I say this never happened. Or..... we could all nuke him:D.
ps. just kidding
OOC: Quite a good idea, and the nuke thing was pretty funny.
OOC: Sorry, I didn't really know where things stood with the subs.
"We're about 30 miles out, time to launch the minisubs." Said Captain London. "Get in position SEAL teams."
Throughout the pack, men loaded into the minisubs– eighteen in each. Sixteen were special operators while the remaining two were regular sailors tasked with navigating the midget submarines.
The six small subs released and the larger motherships turned back towards international water, breathing easier now that their most valuable cargo was out of their hands.
The small, electric submarines were moving extremely slowly, just over eight knots, and were almost whisper quiet, making them next to impossible to detect. It wasn't the landing that the SEALs were worried about, it was what would come after.
Back aboard the Tang, the Captain radioed the Leistungi ship, "Wolfhound, this the Tang, SEALs are inbound in minisubs. ETA is three hours."
Sur Abruzzi
01-09-2008, 03:27
3:31 AM, USS Towamencin
Intl Waters, 430 nautical miles from TUG
Admiral Burr was never more happy to be moving his strike group in the early morning hours. The darkness provided a chance for him to spend some time out on the deck of the ship, staring at the stars. He had always imagined he would grow up to be an astronaut, but here he was commanding some of the finest naval ships in the Abruzzian fleet. As he looked out at the ships surrounding him, he found himself impressed by the precision of his men- 5 Frigates flanking him, 3 Destroyers behind his Carrier, 3 more Destroyers and 3 Battlecrusiers in front of his Carrier. Exactly as he had ordered. As he began to walk back to the wheelhouse, he took one last final look out at the clear black sky. "Beautiful" he muttered to himself.
3:36 AM, Command Deck of the USS Towamencin
Intl Waters, 430 nautical miles from TUG
"Full stop, all ships" Admiral Burr called out over the radio to the men manning their posts in the other ships of the strike group. They were exactly where they were requested to be, the southern tip of the peninsula that the current TUG regime called home. "General Rielly," Admiral Burr spoke turning to his invited guest "As soon as the word is given, three of my Destroyers and three of the Battlecruisers will enter into TUG's territorial waters as our fighters escort the H.E.L.O.'s and the Supermarine landing craft with your men on them. Do you have any other wishes at this time?"
General Rielly smiled at the Admiral. He always hated the Navy, but Admiral Burr was a man with a personality similar to his. He had come to respect him as they waited together to launch operations. "Admiral Burr, once my men land on the shoreline, I will be requesting a bombing mission to cut off all of TUG's roads in and out of the southern areas. I am going to FORCE them to challenge me in the towns we capture, house-by-house, block-by-block. Do you think your men can handle this?" Admiral Burr only responded with a simple nod of the head. Just like General Rielly he thought, to question the capabilities of his naval fighter pilots. He still remembered the remarks the General had made about the Abruzzian high command merging the Navy and the Air Force together- "Don't worry General, they won't be flying like a bunch of drunken sailors on shore leave, I can promise you that...."
"Captain, send an encrypted message to the Leistungi capital ship. Tell them we are in position." Admiral Burr called out to his comms man. "Aye, Aye Admiral" came the response.
SPECIAL ENCRYPTED MESSAGE TO THE LEISTUNGI FORCES
---------------------------------------------------------
All of our forces are in place and ready to go. Simply send an encrypted message back with the time estimate of when your men will land and we will launch our diversionary attack. The frequency is 190.022.01.
OOC: Honestly y'all isn't this ever going to get moving?
Leistung
04-09-2008, 03:40
OOC: Sadly, it's very unlikely that TUG will respond anytime soon. I consider this war over.
OOC: Sadly, it's very unlikely that TUG will respond anytime soon. I consider this war over.
OOC: I think you mean covert operation.
OOC: Sadly, it's very unlikely that TUG will respond anytime soon. I consider this war over.
OOC: Well we could launch a preemptive nuclear strike. War Plan R
Naah, we coud just invade him ,destroy everything. If he dont reponds, his fold. Later we doud just tell everybody in the threats he fights in:
TUG isnt playing, we invaded him and killed everybody.