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The Freedom Coalition
Freedom, Prosperity, Nothing else comes close

The Freedom Coalition exists to serve the purpose of member states in the advancement of business and democracy.

What We Do

Chairman- I, as chairman and founder, seek to unify member states, preserve their sovereignty, and ensure profitable investments.

Region Founders/Delegates- You, as the founder and/or delegate of your region, can choose to place your alliance within the Freedom Coalition. The Freedom Coalition will take individuals as well as whole alliances.

Members- You, as a member, are basically like investors. You choose what you want to do and the others will vote on whether to help you. All decisions must be done so with unity.

Observers- You, as an observer, can only recognize the Freedom Coalition by trading with it.

The Freedom Coalition- The Freedom Coalition seeks to unify member states. It is basically a corporation for the profit of her investors. For example, if someone puts up shares of their companies for sale, the FC will bid instead of sovereign nations.

How We Do It

Through a democratic elective process, we choose to commit to projects. As chairman of the Freedom Coalition, I can veto or approve of projects. I will remain chairman until I step down or become inactive for a long period of time.

Goals

Every organization must have a goal or a set of goals. The FC seeks to do the following.

1. Advance Democracy
2. Increase Production
3. Reduce Poverty
4. ???
5. Profit

Membership Requirements

1. Must have a good economy.
2. Must support democracy.
3. Must be willing to input.
4. Must be willing to invest.
5. The FC can make exceptions for outstanding nations.

Current Members
Art of War (Region)
Kiravian Empire (Independent Nation)
Uiri (Independent Nation)
Miamoria (Independent Nation)
Christopher Thompson (Independent Nation)
United Federation of Oblivion2 (Independent Nation)
Daiwiz (Independent Nation)

Current Observers
BSO

Current Projects
Global Orbital Defense (under construction)

Passed Resolutions
Resolution #4- Freedom Coalition Defense Treaty

The Kiravian Empire will join as pledged.

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From: The Branch of Foreign Diplomatic Affairs
To: The Freedom Coalition
Encryption: N/A
Subject: Membership

The Holy and Glorious Empire of Emperatium Drakonicum finds the idea of the Freedom Coalition to be a just and excellent alliance state. As such, its governing powers conceive to recognize its power by becoming an Observer State. If the Freedom Coalition would find it pleasing for the Flag of the Drakonicum to act as a friendly power, it would gladly aid it. Unfortunately, it is currently unable to join as a full member state due to recent turbulence in the economic industry due to new zoning laws. While neither debilitating nor permanent, it cannot provide the full spectrum of economic support that it was once capable of.

With Hope,
The Governance of our Holy and Glorious Empire
The Imperial Magistrate of Diplomacy
John Decartus

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TO: The Freedom Coalition

Uiri finds it strange to allow entire regions to join based on the whim of a founder or WA delegate. What if said nations in the region don't want to be part of this coalition? Should a region join, the joining should be ratified by having each member of the region join.

Uiri wishes to join.

David Aposon
President of Uiri

To: The Proud Nation of Uiri
From: President He

Individual nations may contact the FC and inform us that they do not wish to be a part of this organization and I will promptly withdraw them.

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TO: The Freedom Coalition

Are we accepted into the coalition? Atleast list each individual for easy acess as we may not know who is in what region.

David Aposon
President of Uiri

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TO: The Freedom Coalition

Are we accepted into the coalition? Atleast list each individual for easy acess as we may not know who is in what region.

David Aposon
President of Uiri

OOC: yes you are accepted.

We are calling to session the two first issues for the FC.

Resolution #1: Whether or not to bid on Zackarothian Oil Reserves.

Resolution #2: Whether or not to fund Atlantic Missile Satellite Defense, which would extend coverage to the Freedom Coalition from the Art of War and her allies.

As chairman, Ascelonia cannot vote on the issue, however, Ascelonia approves of the passing of such legislation. Voting ends in less than 2 hours.

I would suggest you create online forums, if your not very skilled at that sort of thing Invisionfree.com is a nice simple site. Also, I would wish to become a diplomat from the BSO.

I would suggest you create online forums, if your not very skilled at that sort of thing Invisionfree.com is a nice simple site. Also, I would wish to become a diplomat from the BSO.

OOC: I'll have to have someone else do that for me. I lack ability to make a site right now (personal reasons).

You're application for diplomat is accepted. What does the BSO want to discuss?

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To: The Freedom Coalition

While I cannot support democracy because I am an Emperor I would still like to join the Freedom Coalition because of my ties with Uiri

His Imperial Majestic Highness,
Miamorga I,
Emperor of Miamoria & all overseas territories colonized and protected,
Keeper of the Faith, Defender of the People, Lord of all within the Realm

(OOC: Ascelonia, you forgot to list me as an observer.)

You've been accepted under the Art of War. When an alliance joins, their average economic performance overtakes individual economic performance.

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To: The Freedom Coalition

While I cannot support democracy because I am an Emperor I would still like to join the Freedom Coalition because of my ties with Uiri

His Imperial Majestic Highness,
Miamorga I,
Emperor of Miamoria & all overseas territories colonized and protected,
Keeper of the Faith, Defender of the People, Lord of all within the Realm

You are accepted. The FC makes many exceptions.

Uiri votes against both proposals and requests that voting time be extended as a general rule to 24 hours from when a proposal ism proposed.

Uiri votes against both proposals and requests that voting time be extended as a general rule to 24 hours from when a proposal ism proposed.

Request is accepted. Voting will now last for 24 hours.

We would like to propose a MDP, but due to the fact we may have enemy spies lurking, come on over to our forms at the Black Sun forums. (http://z10.invisionfree.com/BlackSun/index.php?act=idx) Simply create an account and I'll mask you as a diplomat and give you the code to the Military Encryption main.

First off, I'd like to join because it's pretty obvious that the founder of this coalition goes to secret internet websites like the one of four leaves, seven leaves, or one of 420 leaves.

Secondly, I'm a relatively large (4.7 bil) nation that is very blatantly focused toward your goals, especially those dedicated to democracy and willingness to be active about it.

Thirdly, ????

And lastly, I'd be more than willing to invest men material and money, resulting in later PROFIT.

First off, I'd like to join because it's pretty obvious that the founder of this coalition goes to secret internet websites like the one of four leaves, seven leaves, or one of 420 leaves.

Secondly, I'm a relatively large (4.7 bil) nation that is very blatantly focused toward your goals, especially those dedicated to democracy and willingness to be active about it.

Thirdly, ????

And lastly, I'd be more than willing to invest men material and money, resulting in later PROFIT.

OOC: I don't know exactly what you're talking about, but you're approved.

Resolution #3: Whether or not to interfere in Izhevskia.

I think Chris was being sarcastic.

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From: The Emperatium Drakonicum Representative
To: The Freedom Coalition
Encryption: None
Subject: The three Resolutions currently on the floor of discussion

Resolution #1: Whether or not to bid on Zackarothian Oil Reserves.

The Emperatium Drakonicum feels that it would be sensible to refrain from gaining a controlling interest in said Oil Reserves. We cast our negative response for these reasons:

1.) Amount of Oil available within the Zackarothian Petroleum sites is unsaid, we have no understanding of how much is available, nor the difficulty involved in drilling for it. It is like a used car, we may have a Lemon on our hands. Without the proper information, we cannot assume anything at all.

2.) The Geography of the Petroleum Sites has been left unsaid, we do not know the surrounding geography and infrastructure. This can have severe impacts upon the productivity gained from the Zackarothian Sites. Unless further information is released, we cannot assume anything at all.

3.) Zackarothia may undo their decision should seasonal petroleum usage be underestimated by their governing parties. If it is greater than projected, we may loose several thousands-to millions-in USD unnecessarily.

The Governance of the Drakonicum says nay.

Resolution #2: Whether or not to fund Atlantic Missile Satellite Defense, which would extend coverage to the Freedom Coalition from the Art of War and her allies.

Ascelonia without information on the depth, strength, and relative costs of the AMSD network, we cannot cast a vote either way.

The Governance of the Drakonicum is undecided.

Resolution #3: Whether or not to interfere in Izhevskia.

The Cardinal Bishop and the Emperor have acknowledged serious infirmities within the Izhevskian crises. A full, military response is demanded.

The Governance of the Drakonicum says yea.

With Keen Thought and Respect,
The Governance of our Holy and Glorious Empire
Imperium Equester
Lord Criomian Daltha

Resolution #3: Whether or not to interfere in Izhevskia.

I vote against all interventionism.

Goals

Every organization must have a goal or a set of goals. The FC seeks to do the following.

1. Advance Democracy
2. Increase Production
3. Reduce Poverty
4. ???
5. Profit


A fellow EDiot... lol =P

Hmm, interesting, this alliance is growing just a tad slower then the BSO. You are really pulling off a good starter man.

I vote against all three proposals made.

A fellow EDiot... lol =P

precisely

Voting will end in two hours for the first three propositions. I will now introduce the line-item veto, which would allow you to vote against certain sections (or parts of the section) of a resolution.

You may also propose changes to the resolution.

Resolution #4

General Outline

Resolution #4 calls for unity within the Freedom Coalition. Meaning that all military costs will be shared among member states (to a lesser degree if one of the member states is waging an aggressive war without the approval of other members).

Section 1

Section 1 calls for members to act in the defense of other members. This means that in the event that a member is attacked (we will deal with the causes of the war) without a certain degree of provocation to the attacker, members of the Freedom Coalition will respond with full military might.

Nuclear weapons will only be used in the most dire of circumstances (if the enemy has used or attempted the use of nuclear weapons on a member state or if the enemy is about to destroy the FC). Either way, a nuclear strike will have to be approved through a quick resolution (window lasts less than an hour) with at least 4 "yes" votes to pass.

Section 2

Section 2 calls for the creation of Freedom Coalition peacekeepers. Such peacekeepers will be represented by willing nations to participate in the peacekeeping programs. Peacekeepers will be given guerilla style training coupled with counterterrorist measures.

The peacekeeping forces will require at least 0.05% of all FC member states. Any more will rely purely on donations. Peacekeepers will be placed in another country so that they can learn more about their culture.

The program will quadruple the cost of maintaining the part of your military that you are willing to contribute.

Section 3

Section 3 recalls Resolution 2. With the full cooperation of member states in a comprehensive missile defense project (occuring over the next 60 NS years or 60 days). Design plans will be drawn up for DEW Particle Cannon Satellites as well as for Railgun satellites and space stations (for housing maintenance engineers). The outcome will be an extended AMSD.

The AMSD promises to be very effective, with member states (as well as a few friends from outside) contributing to designing the defense system. The projected cost will be well in the trillions, but this cost will be spread out over the period of 60 NS years as mentioned above. The project will continue past then (relying solely on donations) to construct new satellites. However, existing satellites must be maintained (how it will be maintained will be decided later).

The goal of the project will be to create a missile defense system that will span the entire globe as well as having the capacity to fend off a large scale nuclear attack.

OOC: If 1 RL Day is 1 NS Year than I've had two leaders talking for 5 years at a time. Generally we use flexi-time so whatever RL to NS time ratio is need is the ratio used.

Uiri votes Yay for Section 1 and Section 2, except that Uiri wishes to change it so that only those who contribute to the Peacekeeping force shall pay for it. Uiri also wishes to change the timeframe for the quick resolution from less than an hour to until it wins by a four vote margin or 12 hours, whichever comes first.

Uiri wishes to eliminate Section 3 due to the fact that this system is just building on a system established by a region. If a region wants a missile system fine, but no need to drag others into it. Uiri is against 1 member joning on behalf of an entire region. It is just not right.

OOC: If 1 RL Day is 1 NS Year than I've had two leaders talking for 5 years at a time. Generally we use flexi-time so whatever RL to NS time ratio is need is the ratio used.

Uiri votes Yay for Section 1 and Section 2, except that Uiri wishes to change it so that only those who contribute to the Peacekeeping force shall pay for it. Uiri also wishes to change the timeframe for the quick resolution from less than an hour to until it wins by a four vote margin or 12 hours, whichever comes first.

Uiri wishes to eliminate Section 3 due to the fact that this system is just building on a system established by a region. If a region wants a missile system fine, but no need to drag others into it. Uiri is against 1 member joning on behalf of an entire region. It is just not right.

OOC: edits to resolutions will not be edited from the resolution. They will be in posts following the resolution. Normally when you spend money on something, it comes out of your budget for the year (1 NS year= 1 day).

Section 1 states that members must contribute at least 0.05% of their militaries. So you'll have to propose a change to that first.

Section 2 will be edited so that only a designated trigger nation can initiate a resolution for a nuclear strike that can be voted on. If the nation is under attack, he may not initiate a resolution calling for a nuclear strike.

The next most qualified nation will step in until all nations are under attack, which the power to initiate a nuclear resolution would be placed solely under the chairman's authority. If there is a nuclear attack initiated, then the highest ranking member online will be allowed to initiate a nuclear strike without approval. If the nuclear attack is on a small scale, then the highest ranking member will be limited to his own nuclear arsenal or be allowed to borrow 5 nuclear bombs from any member state (borrow from the chairman first).

Section 3 will remain under debate. It may be sent in as it's own resolution.

OOC: Note that the AMSD is not really region specific. It was actually founded by me to try to extend a missile shield which would protect smaller nations from nuclear weapons.

To: Respective Leaders of The Freedom Coalition
From: Chair-man Geofrey McHale

The United Federation of Oblivion would like to request a membership in this Coalition. Our nation wishes to join this Coalition to bring peace and prosperity to the world.

OOC: edits to resolutions will not be edited from the resolution. They will be in posts following the resolution. Normally when you spend money on something, it comes out of your budget for the year (1 NS year= 1 day).

Section 1 states that members must contribute at least 0.05% of their militaries. So you'll have to propose a change to that first.

Section 2 will be edited so that only a designated trigger nation can initiate a resolution for a nuclear strike that can be voted on. If the nation is under attack, he may not initiate a resolution calling for a nuclear strike.

The next most qualified nation will step in until all nations are under attack, which the power to initiate a nuclear resolution would be placed solely under the chairman's authority. If there is a nuclear attack initiated, then the highest ranking member online will be allowed to initiate a nuclear strike without approval. If the nuclear attack is on a small scale, then the highest ranking member will be limited to his own nuclear arsenal or be allowed to borrow 5 nuclear bombs from any member state (borrow from the chairman first).

Section 3 will remain under debate. It may be sent in as it's own resolution.

OOC: Note that the AMSD is not really region specific. It was actually founded by me to try to extend a missile shield which would protect smaller nations from nuclear weapons.

1 RL Day = w/e amount of NS time it is needed to represent.

OK? OK.

Then change Section 2 accordingly. (Section 2 is the Peacekeeping section, Section 1 is the Nuclear section)

Errr...no. Section 1 should be the following:

Section 1 calls for members to act in the defense of other members. This means that in the event that a member is attacked (we will deal with the causes of the war) without a certain degree of provocation to the attacker, members of the Freedom Coalition will respond with full military might.

Nuclear weapons will only be jointly used in the most dire of circumstances (if the enemy has used or attempted the use of nuclear weapons on a member state or if the enemy is about to destroy the FC). Either way, a joint nuclear strike will have to be approved through a quick resolution (voting lasts 12 hours) which needs a margin of 2 "yes" votes to pass. If a margin of 4 "yes" votes is reached before the time is up, it may pass automatically.

If you want the ASMD thing to be for the whole alliance, cancel the regional project and remove your region mates who haven't approved/joined/watever the alliance yet.

Agreed.

The above edits will be made and the AMSD will cover nations who fund it.

To: Respective Leaders of The Freedom Coalition
From: Chair-man Geofrey McHale

The United Federation of Oblivion would like to request a membership in this Coalition. Our nation wishes to join this Coalition to bring peace and prosperity to the world.

You have been accepted.

Will the AMSD still apply to your whole region?

Will the AMSD still apply to your whole region?


I'll hold an election to see if they want the resolution.

OOC: What?

Also could we change the name to GAMS (Global Anti-Missile Satellites)?

OOC: What?

OOC: Nvm... Individual member states can decide whether or not they want the AMSD.

OOC: GAMS! And as long as it is an coalition project I'm fine with it.

IC:

Uiri approves of GAMS and shall join Ascelonia in this endeavour.

OOC: GAMS! And as long as it is an coalition project I'm fine with it.

IC:

Uiri approves of GAMS and shall join Ascelonia in this endeavour.

OOC: I would prefer if it were called GSD. Global Satellite Defense, because gams sounds a little cheesy.

OOC: GSD? No, it should spell something.

OOC: Some might find this offensive, but how about the Global Orbital Defense (GOD)?

OOC: Actually that sounds pretty impressive. "Halt or I shall unleash GOD upon your nation."

Hehe, that would be fun. I should come up with a snappy abbreviation like that for my alliance. Anyhow, Just checking in, glad to see everybody's fine, and Ascelonia, feel free to send in any member to our forums and I'll have him masked as a diplomat.

OOC: Actually that sounds pretty impressive. "Halt or I shall unleash GOD upon your nation."

OOC: Yes. I know.

Is anybody up to be a diplomat?

OOC: I can't due to high school.

OOC: I say GOD sounds best to. GAMS and GSD sound to strange.

OOC: Actually, I'm a devout Jehovah's witness, and I honestly don't care. It's just an abbreviation.

OOC: Miamoria, shall you be participating then?

OOC: I'm Christian and GOD is fine with me. My own Orbital Railguns are called Rods from God.)

OOC: I'm Christian, but I don't believe in the Bible.

(OOC: So it's agreed then, our ASAT & Space Rapage network will be called GOD?)

(OOC: So it's agreed then, our ASAT & Space Rapage network will be called GOD?)

It is agreed. The space program will commence today and will last for sixty days (or 60 NS years).

Okay, nice to see you guys got that all under control.

OOC: You forgot Kirav.

And it will last for 2 months if it lasts for 60 days, no? I mean, we don't need more than that for the program.

OOC: You forgot Kirav.

And it will last for 2 months if it lasts for 60 days, no? I mean, we don't need more than that for the program.

OOC: We'll have a vote on whether to continue it later.

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From: The Branch of Foreign Diplomatic Affairs
To: The Freedom Coalition Member States
Encryption: N/A
Subject: Ascelonia

Ascelonia has currently involved itself in the the Eurasian Alliance. Whilst Ascelonia's attempts to secure greater prosperity and peace is admirable, we are distinctly uncomfortable with the problems that may arise from such involvement. The Ne Behemes crises has proven the United Government to be an unstable and dangerous nation.

1.) The United Government made several errors in judgment, calling the Grand World Order a communist nation. This fallacy is incredible in its scope. A nation that can not understand the difference between fascism and communism is a 'full on happy meal' if this nation may say so.

2.) The United Government insisted upon a military response to Ralkovian peacekeepers even though there were several diplomatic options on the table to resolve the crisis. If this is its response to an International Incident, then there are clear lapses in judgment within its governing body.

3.) The United Government stayed conflict zone that extended beyond its own capabilities to fight. Not even the presence of a satellite network with capabilities that may dwarf our own proposed theater shield deterred it from fighting an unwinnable war.

The Eurasian Alliance may pull us into conflicts we cannot resolve by dragging Ascelonia into the battle. We ask that Ascelonia withdraw from the Eurasian Alliance for our own safety. May we vote upon this resolution?

Pax Omnes et Valete,
The Governance of our Holy and Glorious Empire
The Imperial Magistrate of Diplomacy
John Decartus

bump bump bump bump

OOC: hey, i just happened to view this thread and their my countries name is, in te las post!

The Ne Behemes would like to join the Freedom Coalition as long as it is able to keep its allegiance to SANT(Schliserian Allied Nations Treaty), which works to maintain peace and stability in the Schliserian region.

The New Axis Powers declare war against the Freedom Coalition. Freedom will not endure.

Membership accepted.

Ascelonia agrees on the fallacy in TUG's leader ship. We will not interfere in this war, but we will maintain a presence within the organization.

Whilst I am here, may we put another resolution on the floor Ascelonia?

The Emperatium Drakonicum feels that there is an appropriate motto for our coalition ,"But war, in a good cause, is not the greatest evil which a nation can suffer. War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is worth a war, is worse. When a people are used as mere human instruments for firing cannon or thrusting bayonets, in the service and for the selfish purposes of a master, such war degrades a people. A war to protect other human beings against tyrannical injustice – a war to give victory to their own ideas of right and good, and which is their own war, carried on for an honest purpose by their free choice – is often the means of their regeneration. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. As long as justice and injustice have not terminated their ever-renewing fight for ascendancy in the affairs of mankind, human beings must be willing, when need is, to do battle for the one against the other."
-John Stuart Mill

Yes.

Resolution #4 has now been passed.

Following the passing of the resolution. All of Ascelonia's multis are part of the GOD as well as a few other nations.

(OOC: Ascelonia, do you mind putting up all the resolutions; the ones that were voted upon and the ones currently debated?)

Okay... What do you propose for next resolution?

(OOC: Can't think of much that we need to be doing at the moment.)

OOC: I'm Christian and GOD is fine with me. My own Orbital Railguns are called Rods from God.)

Rofl in Endwar the American Super weapons are called rods from god lol

Yes.

Resolution #4 has now been passed.

Following the passing of the resolution. All of Ascelonia's multis are part of the GOD as well as a few other nations.

Which other nations? I wasn't aware anyone else had such things.

Membership accepted.

I don't want Ne Behemes in the alliance. We really need votes and such on new members or I walk. This seems more and more to be just a tool for Ascelonia to further his political agenda.

I hesitantly agree. It seems that the chairman seems to hold an incredible amount of power. If I am read the establishing articles correctly, this is a group effort. The chairmen ought to be a first amongst equals rather than the one above all, which is what this seems like.

If this heirarchy is to remain purhaps we should elect the chairman once every 4 months or so? Perhaps with the advent of more members, we could make a chair council of sorts with multiple nations elected with no nation allowed to hold more than 1 seat.

(OOC: I'm assuming that this is our representatives talking it out amongst themselves)

Shall we make it a resolution then Uiri?

I think all good socialist nations should agree to boycott this clearly cartel anti-working class gangster organization which is clearly designed to increase profit and thus increase exploitation of the proletariat. It's class basis is clear for all to see.

OOC: Ah, sure. I suppose our reps need names. Éron Foroson.
IC:
"Yes, I suppose we should," said Foroson, "Do you hear this random socialist nation? I guess workers in other countries must want more than 0à500 (500 mila. 1000 mila = 1 arjet, my national currency. 1 arjet = ~$2 US). Ridiculous. Do you think he suffers from EHAWED (Everyone Has A Work Ethic Disorder)?"

OOC: You forgot Kirav.
-snip-


Whoops. Sorry. I've been out of it for awhile. What did I miss?

And, as for the GOD thing, I'm a Christian, and I'm perfectly fine with it, as others have said.

OOC: nm, read the Resolutions though, I do believe they have been passed. You may be OK with it, but shall your nation contribute towards it. Such a thing shall be useful for defending assets in every corner of the globe, including usually forgotten possessions in Antarctica.

OOC: Ah, sure. I suppose our reps need names. Éron Foroson.
IC:
"Yes, I suppose we should," said Foroson, "Do you hear this random socialist nation? I guess workers in other countries must want more than 0à500 (500 mila. 1000 mila = 1 arjet, my national currency. 1 arjet = ~$2 US). Ridiculous. Do you think he suffers from EHAWED (Everyone Has A Work Ethic Disorder)?"
My nation will always oppose the theft-economy that is capitalism, whereby the working class has the product of their labor 'appropriated' (stolen) by the employer and then sold as if he made it.

To each the product of their labor! Down with capital!

"And he's off. What is this none sense anyhow? Back in my country, he'd be arrested by the police and put into an insanitorium like the lunatic he be, I mean, they get what they need, its not like they can't afford the necessities. Plus, if this guy had his way, millions in Uiri would be dying because they would lack stuff made and/or processed by others." this time Fodoson addressed the Kiravian.

"Yes, I suppose we should," said Foroson, "Do you hear this random socialist nation? I guess workers in other countries must want more than 0à500.Ridiculous. Do you think he suffers from EHAWED (Everyone Has A Work Ethic Disorder)?"

Crimeon stared blandly at the socialist representative, "I must ask, how did he even get in here in the first place?" He shook his head. "And EHAWED? It is a sad psychological condition. Almost exactly like autism in a way. There's no point to it, really. All socialists seem intent on bringing the hammer and sickle upon the capitalist nutsack. The fact that they grind their own people under their heels while revving for some capitalist nation to conquer is lost upon them, apparently."

The young diplomat frowned slightly, "I'll get that resolution on paper in a couple moments, unless of course someone else wants the honour?"

"His message is coming in on the radio. Its a ridiculous message and is blocking requests from nations with sane leaders."

"And he's off. What is this none sense anyhow? Back in my country, he'd be arrested by the police and put into an insanitorium like the lunatic he be, I mean, they get what they need, its not like they can't afford the necessities. Plus, if this guy had his way, millions in Uiri would be dying because they would lack stuff made and/or processed by others." this time Fodoson addressed the Kiravian.

"Aye," said Silurius Thurmec, the Kiravian delegate, "'Tis the way things are. As much as you try to cerntralise and nationalise your economy, one can't deny that the best work is done when you've got an initiative to do better than the other guy. I stand with Sèr Fodoson."

"Nationalisation? As in increasing the size of the public sector? The Blue Party stands firmly against interventionism however respects the Kiravian views, particularly if they are being misunderstood as cultural differences can get the better of one some days."

"Nationalisation? As in increasing the size of the public sector? The Blue Party stands firmly against interventionism however respects the Kiravian views, particularly if they are being misunderstood as cultural differences can get the better of one some days."

(He was criticising nationalisation. That word doesn't even translate into Coscivian.)

"Aye," said Silurius Thurmec, the Kiravian delegate, "'Tis the way things are. As much as you try to cerntralise and nationalise your economy, one can't deny that the best work is done when you've got an initiative to do better than the other guy. I stand with Sèr Fodoson."
This is false, because for the vast toiling masses of humanity the only 'incentive' is work or starve to death.

((OOC: Sorry, I misread. I realize now he meant that the best economic incentive is competition.))

"Hah! See how he turns to the fact that many are forced to work. He does not realize that in any economy one must work or be a burden. And in a well functioning economy, burdens are cut to the minimum."

((OOC: Sorry, I misread. I realize now he meant that the best economic incentive is competition.))

"Hah! See how he turns to the fact that many are forced to work. He does not realize that in any economy one must work or be a burden. And in a well functioning economy, burdens are cut to the minimum."
Capitalism: 26 varieties, all unfit for human consumption.

Capitalism: 26 varieties, all unfit for human consumption.

"A witty quote, sir. But really, how can an economy run by those consuming fail to be consumed?"

"26 varieties? If you can name them all we shan't invade your home for reasons such as espionage and general distrubing the peace."

"26 varieties? If you can name them all we shan't invade your home for reasons such as espionage and general distrubing the peace."

"Damn. The Empire was looking for another colony..."

Every organization must have a goal or a set of goals. The FC seeks to do the following.

1. Advance Democracy
2. Increase Production
3. Reduce Poverty
4. ???
5. Profit


A fellow EDiot... lol =P

'Twas not ED but 4chan that introduced me to the format, but that alone made me want to join the alliance... Alas, we are a monarchy.

OOC: Sarpadiia, Miamoria is a monarchy with legislature positions filled either by reps elected for life or are hereditary. We make plenty of exceptions, especially for those of good standing.

IC:

"Who could possibly name 26 varieties of capitalism?"

That's a good question, especially considering there are only 17 recognized, defined forms:

Anarcho-capitalism
Corporate capitalism
Crony capitalism
Democratic capitalism
Eco-capitalism
Finance capitalism
Late capitalism
Laissez-faire capitalism
Liberal capitalism
Merchant capitalism
Mixed economy
Technocapitalism
Social capitalism
Social market economy
State capitalism
State monopoly capitalism
Welfare capitalism

But, in important news, Santheres wishes to join this coalition. We are a reformed noble republic, which places the vast majority of political say (including direct elections) in the upper, noble class and provides oversight in the form of petitions of no-confidence and common class confidence elections, in which the common class places votes for the noble houses they find to be the most capable to fill a given position -- seats in the legislature are awarded to each Family on the basis of these votes of confidence.

We trust that is more information than the coalition cares for, but there's no harm in understanding the political system of another nation.

'Twas not ED but *turkeys on the ceiling* that introduced me to the format, but that alone made me want to join the alliance... Alas, we are a monarchy.

First off, you there, Sarpadia. RULES 1 & 2.

Don't argue whether or not they apply here, because they DO. I found-out about secret internet websites before I found out about NS, and can assure you I am anon your senior, and your cancer-spreading ways need to be halted. Yes I know thousands do as you do everyday, but I choose to stem the tide one underageb& faggot at a time, and so should you.

Stop killing yotsubachan. Moot and Snacks cry for you on this night, edit your post and refrain from breaking the rules again. They are there for a reason, please don't argue this with me, otherwise we'll have an lol internet argument, and nobody wins.

Secondly, all of you who have no idea what I'm talking about: disregard that; I suck cocks.

And Lastly, I, being a member of many past and present alliances and agreements of various natures, second the idea that we need to have off-site forums, for organization, but also because no Agreement or Coalition of any sort has ever been taken seriously (for many good and bad reasons) without having off-site forums.

Invisionfree motherfucker, can you type it?

I hesitantly agree. It seems that the chairman seems to hold an incredible amount of power. If I am read the establishing articles correctly, this is a group effort. The chairmen ought to be a first amongst equals rather than the one above all, which is what this seems like.

OOC: I agree. I want to stay in power.

We will have a vote on his membership.

Which other nations? I wasn't aware anyone else had such things.



I don't want Ne Behemes in the alliance. We really need votes and such on new members or I walk. This seems more and more to be just a tool for Ascelonia to further his political agenda.

I hesitantly agree. It seems that the chairman seems to hold an incredible amount of power. If I am read the establishing articles correctly, this is a group effort. The chairmen ought to be a first amongst equals rather than the one above all, which is what this seems like.

If this heirarchy is to remain purhaps we should elect the chairman once every 4 months or so? Perhaps with the advent of more members, we could make a chair council of sorts with multiple nations elected with no nation allowed to hold more than 1 seat.

*ahem* Ascelonia. *ahem*

OOC: Okay...

Ne Behemes has not been added to members list. So it isn't official... We will now begin voting for members.
Ne Behemes and Santheres' memberships are now up for vote.

Resolution #5- The Coalition Council

The Coalition Council will be formed. It will be elected by other nations. It will also have the capacity to override the chairman's vetoes by a majority vote.

We wish to change Resolution 5 to the following:

The Chair Council shall comprise 1 representative from 10% and 20% of the member nations and shall replace the chairman entirely. The nations who send reps shall be decided by the Common Council once every 4 years (4 RL months for all intents and purposes of this resolution)

Voting on membership, resolutions and members of the Chair Council shall be done by a Coalition Council comprised of 1 representative from each member nation.

Fodoson votes Yay on Santheres and Nay on Ne Behemes.

Thurmec seconds the Uir proposal, and votes 'Yay' for Santheres, and 'Nay' for No Behemes.

"I, Lord Crimeon, also second Uiri's amendment to Resolution #5. I can't yet vote on the new memberships, as the Imperial Branch of Diplomacy has not yet sent me their evaluations of these sovereign nations," the Emperatium Drakonicum representative said.

What a coincidence...we're the WA Delegate and founding nation of a region called The Freedom Coalition....

ha ha ha, gtfo of this thread or apply for membership.

Actually, Ascelonia's region is Act of War. So no leg to stand on for you.

Actually. I am resigning. Someone should feel free to step up.

EDIT: however, I will edit the main article.

Resolution #5 has been changed to all of the above.

Ascelonia proposes that office of chairman should be reinstated and that it should be an elected position. Every two months.

Ascelonia will be running for member on the council.

Crimeon blinked.

"Well then, we'll need the names of those who want to run for chairman?"

Quitting the post or the coalition? I shall be running too but I want the system to be that which I proposed because it seems to be well supported. Essentially a chairman (it shall be one person until we get 10 members) will be elected every 4 months.

As for your changes:

"I demand that you make my proposed changes, I have the backing of approximately 38% of the Coalition," Fodoson stood up to challenge the Ascelonian rep's decision.

OOC: I have made the appropriate changes. I have proposed my changes to your changes... lol

Quitting the post and running for council.

OOC: what does it look like now? And I disagree with your changes as they are redundant and undemocratic.

Crimeon shuddered, "WA was no fun at all. Ugh. Count Emperatium Drakonicum out of the running for Chairman, but we will be running for council."

OOC: They are the same thing. We only have one person in the council because we are only 8. Ascelonia, Miamoria, Kirav, Oblivion2, CT, Daiwiz, you and I.

OOC: what does it look like now? And I disagree with your changes as they are redundant and undemocratic.

OOC: lol... not really. I won't be running.

OOC: Err...it is redundant in that there is already the Chair Council. It is undemocratic as it concentrates all the power in one nation. The chair council fills the position well enough and with more members it shall increase in size so that we never have all the power concentrated in 2% of the alliance. between 1 in 10 and 1 in 5 of the members will be a member of the chair council so that we have a good balance of power.

OOC: They are the same thing. We only have one person in the council because we are only 8. Ascelonia, Miamoria, Kirav, Oblivion2, CT, Daiwiz, you and I.

Ohh... lol... No there's actually more becuase my alliance is in it... (They agreed since they're my friends in RL, but they don't have enough time to RP.)

Delegate Thurmec returned from the bathroom with a piece of toilet paper trailing fro his shoe.

"While in the loo, I recieved instructions from the Secriat of State, stating that I am not to run for Chairman."

OOC: I do not recognize their membership.

Crimeon made a face, "What is this? Fucking 40k? Jesus Christ, let's just get Uiri's changes put into place."

OOC: I do not recognize their membership.

OOC: Why not? Do I need a screenshot of their approval messages?

They just aren't active enough to RP.

(I'm not including my multis).

Lol... I don't have the power to ratify these changes. So we'll have to wait 24 hours for it to take effect.

Crimeon frowned, "Well, they do count as member states, but since they don't vote it doesn't really matter does it?"

He opened his suitcase with a click, "With that said, may I interest anyone in Tic-Tac-Toe?"

OOC: Might I suggest that everything be more organized? The first post is apparently not updated in a way that is representative of the actual organization, and there's no explanation of resolutions in it, which there should be -- at least a link. As well, if a person is not an active RPer, they deserve no say. For example, I disappear on weekends because I have a girlfriend whom I don't see during the week -- this means that any votes taking place late Fridays, Saturdays, or Sundays get passed/struck down whether or not I vote. And I accept this. If your RL friends can't be around here and actually RP (and I mean more than just in the FC), then they really are in no position to make any decisions as they do not know what all is going on in the NS world.

This thing needs its own forum, too. I would really like to have an alliance of some sort, so I'd like, if accepted into this, for it to last. It won't the way I've seen it being run in the last 4 (30-post) pages.

OOC
Apologies

Look... I apologize. I founded this alliance under the banner of freedom. I conceived the idea on the notion that we would all be equals. Someone told me that I was responsible for the alliance as founder. I then started the alliance with the hope to guide it under the right path.

I soon started looking out for myself rather than for the benefit of the alliance. I've realized the error of my ways. I got caught up in the power grubbing and grabbing. Power has corrupted me and my soul (even though it's RPing).

I hope you will all forgive me.

OOC: Might I suggest that everything be more organized? The first post is apparently not updated in a way that is representative of the actual organization, and there's no explanation of resolutions in it, which there should be -- at least a link. As well, if a person is not an active RPer, they deserve no say. For example, I disappear on weekends because I have a girlfriend whom I don't see during the week -- this means that any votes taking place late Fridays, Saturdays, or Sundays get passed/struck down whether or not I vote. And I accept this. If your RL friends can't be around here and actually RP (and I mean more than just in the FC), then they really are in no position to make any decisions as they do not know what all is going on in the NS world.

This thing needs its own forum, too. I would really like to have an alliance of some sort, so I'd like, if accepted into this, for it to last. It won't the way I've seen it being run in the last 4 (30-post) pages.

That's a good idea, but someone else will have to make it.

(OOC: Ascelonia, don't be a drama queen. Noone actually makes allainces in the name of FREEDOM! Let's just forget this whole fiasco ever happened hmmm? We have actual work to do. Santheres made too many good points.)

Crimeon glared at the Santheres representative. "Why is it that the Foreigners are ALWAYS right?"

Santheres' de facto representative, the Baroneasa Valeria Anerio, smiled at Crimeon. "The Santherese have a long tradition of being right. Now, how much longer must this vote on our entrance take? If there is any way to expedite the process so that I may offer more of our extensive wisdom...."

OOC: Why not? Do I need a screenshot of their approval messages?

They just aren't active enough to RP.

(I'm not including my multis).

No, you need to get them to get off their arses and post in the thread. I got Miamoria to do it.

Besides members of an alliance should be individual nations, not regions because then it screws everything up. Honestly. I was against it from the start and it wasn't really apparent until recently but I put my foot down nonetheless. If y'all will allow me to, I shall make the forums.

Fodoson addressed the Baroneasa, "Votes must last 24 hours unless they are emergency votes which are only done for a joint nuclear strike."

"Mm, well, I suppose I might offer advice, still. With two votes for and one abstain, things are looking positive for us." Valeria was annoyed with sticklers to rules in circumstances when they were unnecessary (such as those when the rules got in the way of her interests), but was confident nonetheless. Simply waiting was not a big problem as long as work got done in the meantime, and she would do what she could to help. "If you'll permit, of course."

"Well, of course. I don't see any reason not to. Although you shan't be able to vote on resoluions until you are officially accepted."

(OOC: That's great Uiri.)

"Must be descended from the Sicilians," Crimeon muttered into his glass of water as he drank. Smacking his lips he said, "Well, I doubt anyone is going to object to us pushing these changes into being. Everything seems to be sensible, and without any obvious and immediate flaws. Getting things to work right might even turn us into heroes." He laughed at the thought.

Fodoson laughed as well, "Well, I suppose that depends who you are asking. I doubt that either my Prime Minister or my President would think I am a hero and if it weren't for the fact that we needed a rep I would be in some other position back home, probably in the penthouse of a housing block. I do suppose we should make the conversations private instead of allowing any other nation to listen in. I shall get started."

OOC: Meaning forums.

"I'll see if I can't procure some military grade jamming equipment. No more lousy commies trying to annoy us to death,"

(OOC: Putting in some IG reasons for the forum.)

OOC: For RL reasons I wasn't able to make the forums tonight. I shall however be able to make them tomorrow. I apologize for the inconvenience.

OOC: My friends are too busy, but I'd like it if treaties covered their nations.

OOC: I assume the following was passed:

The Chair Council shall comprise 1 representative from 10% and 20% of the member nations and shall replace the chairman entirely. The nations who send reps shall be decided by the Common Council once every 4 years (4 RL months for all intents and purposes of this resolution)

Voting on membership, resolutions and members of the Chair Council shall be done by a Coalition Council comprised of 1 representative from each member nation.

Santheres was voted in.
Ne Behemes was refused.

And I am sorry but no, unless each of your firends posts in the thread requesting membership I will not recognize them as members. Plus we would need to vote them in too. It is too much work for people who will never show up.

Message to the Freedom Coalition
Dear members of the Freedom Coalition, as a recent joining member of this organization, i have been able to participate little in out duties. This, sadly is a result of recent turmoil in the Ne Behemes and its international relation. Regretablly, the Ne Behemes was accused by the WA (joining the WA now a decision looked down upon by us), of conspiracy with other nations to create a monopoly of my region, Schliseria and therefore benned indefinitley from the WA. After i requested more explanation from the WA, because there notification to me had been short and provided no evidence, i was recieved with banishment from the NS forums, along with the 4 other nations accused. (I apparently am still able to access the forums from the outside, while the others cannot. I am unsure why.). After settling myself and attempting to clariy the situation with the WA, the Ne Behemes was blocked from its NS nation. We know we may have broken law or upset the WA, but our attempts at reattaining ability in the NS world has been shot down. Weare no longer able to care for our great nation. Please, i beg of oyu, my fellow justice and freedom seekers, help me. Use your intelligence to inform me on the situation in the Ne Behemes, or even the region of Schliseria. I do not want to lose my people! I hope to hear from you soo and i will continue to be the only contact available of the banished nations. I regret some decisions but most of all being torn from my nation. We offer our humblest apologies to the WA and the whole NS, just please elp the Ne Behemes!
Sincerely,
President Aidek Uiste and Vice President Hera Quipelago
of the Ne Behemes Government-in-Exile

Fodoson laughed and then said via radio to the President of the Ne Behemes, "Sorry, The Kiravian and I voted you out and as far as I know no one else voted. Please do not intrude where you aren't welcome. As for your situation, I couldn't care less."

"I must agree, unless the representatives show up, it's like carrying wet, dead logs everywhere. They don't vote, contribute, act, or even speak within this council. No coalition functions if half its members don't do anything," Crimeon said, "Looks like we have everything sorted out, yes?

"My government has explained why it has not been able to do anything..."

"...i just ask for help and peace and forgiveness..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OnWAOqZj58

"We have already told you, and after doing a recount the vote tallied as follows:

Yay 0
Abstain 0
Nay 2

Please stop intruding into the communications between reps to a coalition you were rejected from.We are referring to the regionmates of Ascelonia. Go away."

OOC: I assume the following was passed:

The Chair Council shall comprise 1 representative from 10% and 20% of the member nations and shall replace the chairman entirely. The nations who send reps shall be decided by the Common Council once every 4 years (4 RL months for all intents and purposes of this resolution)

Voting on membership, resolutions and members of the Chair Council shall be done by a Coalition Council comprised of 1 representative from each member nation.

Santheres was voted in.
Ne Behemes was refused.

And I am sorry but no, unless each of your firends posts in the thread requesting membership I will not recognize them as members. Plus we would need to vote them in too. It is too much work for people who will never show up.

OOC: lol... basically, there are no members of the Freedom Coalition any more besides me. We have to vote on everybody.

OOC: Look. The only people who have been active lately are me, Uiri, and Drakonicum

"Ah, very well." He rummaged about his suitcase for a moment. He finally retrieved a sheet of paper and a pen.

"Let's make a comprehensive list of nations on the short list shall we?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1sS1TmXF38


"...so be it, i just wanted help!"

"Clearly you never understood, President of the Ne Behemes. You were never part of this alliance and we never discussed you in detail at all. We never expected you to be active. Ascelonia, you have forgotten the Kiravian rep who has been moderately active and Miamoria has been around, just not in this thread. By the way I have installed the jammers. Our conversations will now be private. just click on the link to install them on your microphone."

OOC: forums (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Freedom_Coalition/index.php)

Members who will be accepted:

Santheres
Uiri
Ascelonia
Emperatium Drakonicum
Miamoria
Kirav
CT
Oblivion2
Daiwiz

No one else was accepted as a member.

Excellent, should I post all the resolutions made so far?

Edit: Forum's not letting me post new topics.

OOC: I have to validate every member. This is for security reasons. Fixed. The following have yet to register:

Ascelonia
Miamoria
Kirav
CT
Oblivion2
Daiwiz

Those who do not register shall no longer be considered members if they don't register within 120 hours of the posting of this message.

OOC: lol. You don't have that power (as you have not been elected) and technically none of us are members due to the voting rule. I vote to approve as member (I'm the founder and hence I am declared the first member by default).

OOC: No, the voting rule was passed in objection to NB so only applications after and including NB's application are effected or else none of our votes on it would've counted. We can't retrospectively apply resolutions. And I'd petition for their removal due to inactivity.

OOC: In any case, the first two people you accepted would still be accepted even if there was a rewind because the first one was you, Ascelonia, and the second person admitted had unanimous approval (1 of 1), and the third had at least half (which counts as majority in such a situation). For future reference, though, nonvoters are abstains, not nonexistent.

I would also second a petition to remove members due to inactivity. Starting out, we need to be sure we know who is actually a member and who really isn't.

OOC: We can't retroactively effect anything.

Second, I do believe a good way to determine who is active is by the forums.

And I think those who say 'Abstain' are abstain too.

OOC: No, the voting rule was passed in objection to NB so only applications after and including NB's application are effected or else none of our votes on it would've counted. We can't retrospectively apply resolutions. And I'd petition for their removal due to inactivity.

OOC: That's true. I won't be as active (school/facebook).

OOC: Oh yeah. The passed Resolution #2 required 0.05% of funding for military. Not of "willing" nations, but of all nations. Whatever. I'm not xenophobic.

OOC: I don't have permission to start topics or post.

Ascelonia proposes that FC nations have a student exchange program and promote member states to teach other member states' languages within their nation.

Greetings membership and leadership of the Freedom Coalition,

our newly-founded state, the Holy Empire of Dunneation applauds you on this valuable intergovernmental endeavour.

We in Dunneation stand for many of the principles found to be common amongst the membership of the Freedom Coaltion. We stand for political and economic freedom, the rule of law, free trade and the emphasis on diplomacy.

In light of this concordance of mission between ourselves and yourselves in the Freedom Coalition, we would like to join with you in future projects to enhance and expand the role of the Freedom Coalition.

The Holy Empire wishes to join the Freedom Coalition

Dermot Murnaghan
Foreign Minister
Holy Empire of Dunneation

President Christopher He is now calling to session a meeting of members of the Freedom Coalition to discuss the membership of a new nation.


"I vote 'aye' on Dunneation's membership."

I vote yes to Dunneation's entry.

"I, Vice-Chairman Maxor, on Behalf of all of the United Federation of Oblivion say Aye!"

OOC: Where do i register? is there already a link?

The United Kingdom Of Ustio North wishes to become a member of the Freedom Coalition as an Independant Nation.

Where do we sign?

"I vote aye on the small nation's membership. It seems like this one shan't do anything stupid," voted Fodoson.

OOC: forums link (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Freedom_Coalition/index.php)

Greetings fellow states of the Freedom Coalition!

Ascelonia, Miamoria, Oblivion2 and Uiri; many thanks for your votes of confidence in my realm's ability to play a part in the inventive and dynamic Freedom Coalition.

On foot of this warm welcome to the organisation, it is my aim as Emperor of the Holy Empire of Dunneation to direct the democratic institutions we have so painstakingly constructed towards serving the goal of enlarging and enhancing the Freedom Coalition's voice in the world.

In the spirit of solidarity with all those who wish to become part of the great enterprise which is the Freedom Coalition, I have been vested with the authority to indicate Dunneation's assent to Ustio North's wish to join the Freedom Coalition.

Many thanks once again.

Brian Boru the Just
Emperor
Holy Empire of Dunneation

"The governance of Emperatium Drakonicum says yea to both countries establishments within this body," Crimeon answered.

OOC: Will it just let me register without a hitch or do i need an admins permission?

"The people of Oblivion vote aye on the admission of Utiso" Said vice-chairman maxor.

"Aye" vote for Ustio North.

OOC: I'll be less active from now on, but I will propose resolutions.

(OOC: Votes are being cataloged on the forum.)

"Hold on while I write this down," Crimeon asked as his pen scrawled furiously on a piece of parchment.

OOC: Will it just let me register without a hitch or do i need an admins permission?

OOC: I'll give you admin's permission.

"The governance of Emperatium Drakonicum says yea to both countries establishments within this body," Crimeon answered.

OOC: It's the same country. Voting ends in two hours.

OOC: I'll give you admin's permission.



OOC: It's the same country. Voting ends in two hours.

OOC: Really?

OOC: You mean that Dunneation is a puppet state of Ustio North?

OOC: No, nvm I missed Ustio's app.
IC:

"Aye for Ustio. They are a reliable nation."

OOC: Well, that is cleared.

OOC: Just a note ... we do have a forum for this kind of thing. >_>

OOC: Secrecy. II can view our votes here and we need un-interupted debates sometimes.

OOC: It's better if we talked and announced decisions here, since we need to have this thread on the first page more often.

OOC: Votes should be private, I think. Talking is fine; discussing FC things that are not of a sensitive nature are fine. Voting, however... well, if there are any negative votes, they have to go on the forum to be unseen -- why offend someone who may very well be denied entry and can therefore have reason to do something nefarious -- so the rest should be there, too. Sure, I suppose if you want to put your aye vote here, that shouldn't be a problem, but you should post it on the forum, too, at least, no?

Agreed. Everything except announcements should be done on the forums. Uiri's efforts should not be wasted so frivolously.

OOC: Group hug?

Oh and:

IC:

"After counting the votes, I have determined that Dunneation has been accepted into the Freedom Coalition. Voting on Ustio North continues, however," Fodoson announced.

OOC: You mean that Dunneation is a puppet state of Ustio North?


I can assure you that the only connection between both ourselves and Ustio North is our membership of the Freedom Coalition. We are separate nations Emperatium Drakonicum.

Dermot Murnaghan
Foreign Minister
Holy Empire of Dunneation

No, Dunneation is not my puppet. I only have one puppet (Neo-Ustio) for if I forget my current account's password or the like.

(OOC: Sorry about the confusion, Uiri didn't see Ustio's application so he thought I was voting two times by accident.)

No problem.

you've been accepted, Ustio North

Great... now vote on my resolution. I'll propose more.

Your resolution is not at vote but under discussion due to the inherent flaws of helping 'poorer nations' which would reduce their economic oppurtunities as it does not address my economy and the fact that it dictates the HQ's too damn much. We could, instead, have put specific locations in the resolution instead of you saying where their optimal locations would be.

Is there any possibility we could get a little logo indicating our membership of the Freedom Coalition on our nation pages like the World Assembly logos? That would be great since it would draw attention to this group and increase the scale of the organisation.

Is there any possibility we could get a little logo indicating our membership of the Freedom Coalition on our nation pages like the World Assembly logos? That would be great since it would draw attention to this group and increase the scale of the organisation.

No.

The FC exists in roleplay, that is, on the forums and offsite encyclopædias, rather than on nationstates.net.

The WA, quite the opposite, exists only on nationstates.net and in the UN forum here on Jolt. Most RPing nations agree not to recognise its existance here.

I'm sorry if this comes of as harsh, as I respect newer players, and really don't believe in demeaning them, because they get good if you give them the right information.

you've been accepted, Ustio North

Excellent, thanks.

I'm sorry if this comes of as harsh, as I respect newer players, and really don't believe in demeaning them, because they get good if you give them the right information.

Ah, it's grand really. I didn't think it was a possibility myself but I raised it in the hope that it might be possible. I'm glad you respect newer players like myself and yes, I do aim to become more au fait with how things are done on the forums and in NationStates.

OOC: Well, it has been 5 days. Ustio North & Dunneation, if you could please register on the forums (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Freedom_Coalition/index.php) it would be pleasant.

CT
Oblivion2
Daiwiz

None of them have registered. Oblivion2 was moderately active; however I have grave concerns about Chirstopher Thompson and Daiwiz.

I'm already registered

I realize that. Because you didn't post anywhere, I forgot.

Well, I had to read Acselonia's proposal and the changes you made before a made a post.

OOC: Well, it has been 5 days. Ustio North & Dunneation, if you could please register on the forums (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Freedom_Coalition/index.php) it would be pleasant.

CT
Oblivion2
Daiwiz

None of them have registered. Oblivion2 was moderately active; however I have grave concerns about Chirstopher Thompson and Daiwiz.

I've done that there now, Uiri!

Ah, it's grand really. I didn't think it was a possibility myself but I raised it in the hope that it might be possible. I'm glad you respect newer players like myself and yes, I do aim to become more au fait with how things are done on the forums and in NationStates.

All very good. Best of luck.

All very good. Best of luck.


:cool: Thanks Kirav!

You're quite welcome.

You're quite welcome.

That's good. You're very friendly, which is great for a n00b like me! Have you had a look at my nation's spotlight yet? What do you think of it? I'm sort of delighted my nation's children are the most foul-mouthed in the region, it means we're not caught short in an international slagging match!

Your resolution is not at vote but under discussion due to the inherent flaws of helping 'poorer nations' which would reduce their economic oppurtunities as it does not address my economy and the fact that it dictates the HQ's too damn much. We could, instead, have put specific locations in the resolution instead of you saying where their optimal locations would be.

Interesting. I'll get on whenever I can to fix this.

OOC:I'm really sorry for not posting for a long time. I forgot all about this. I will read the posts, (or the ones towards the end, since there are too many) and will add my nations two cents to the mix.

OOC: Well, it has been 5 days. Ustio North & Dunneation, if you could please register on the forums (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Freedom_Coalition/index.php) it would be pleasant.

CT
Oblivion2
Daiwiz

None of them have registered. Oblivion2 was moderately active; however I have grave concerns about Chirstopher Thompson and Daiwiz.

As I said above, I forgot about this. I apologize greatly. I will register now, since I assum I have not been kicked from this yet?

You were temporarily suspended. Un-suspended now though.

I'm still surprised to see how Uiri turned into the admin of this, hehe.

Why is that surprising?

EDIT: I have put forward my stance on the latest proposal.