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The Canedian goverment, have been looking at it for years. Now, we found a way, to live on Jupiter. We invate other nations, to come and maybe even fight a bit.

IC:
Send the rocket into space!
You all got, food, water and even some weapons and all other things you need to survive...
Yes, we are ready to go.
Farewell earth...

OOC: Didn't you just get mauled by EC and have your military funding blocked by Salzland, me, and others? Aren't our peacekeepers currently fighting rebels? How in the hell can you afford this?

OOC: Is this a serious MT post?

Buy your plot to explore the wealth of Uranus natural resources! Only $ 1,000 for 1 acre plot! Gas giant mining is the future! Make sure your great-grandsons will be millionaires by selling Helium-3 to the new fusion economy of the future. Uranus is great! Uranus is Large! Uranus is rich! Uranus is the future! Buy a plot of Uranus now with 5% off!*

*We do not have insurance for a "world returns to a new Dark Age" possibility

OOC: Okay, see you. No need to write, and please don't come back.

Not possible in MT, not at all.

Nippon is correct. This would be impossible for a '04 nation with a kick-the-arse economy. You're small and at war, making it doubly impossible. Try colonising an island chain first.

Nippon is correct. This would be impossible for a '04 nation with a kick-the-arse economy. You're small and at war, making it doubly impossible. Try colonising an island chain first.

(OOC: But it is possible even IRL, and this link is the ultimate proof of it:

http://www.gasgiantmining.com/home.html )

On Jupiter? Wouldn't in be more appropriate?

Either way, most lulzy.

OOC: This is at least early FT, no way it's MT. The most you could pull off in MT is landing on Mars or maybe mining the Asteriod Belt (which is iffy).

[OOC: This is even more bullshit than saying a soldier can survive being shot by a tank at point blank while also being bombarded with heavy 200mm+ artillery. Canedian Army, your nation is a ruin. You have no money, no military, absolutely no resources leaving you with low return for any sort of investment, and there is no possible way that you could have any launch pad suitable to launch a rocket into space that can reach Jupiter. Even then, the force of gravity on Jupiter, which I have calculated to yield something around 25.1399 m/s/s acceleration to the centre of Jupiter along the surface; I would think that your people would be killed by gravity alone, not to mention the inhospitable "climate" of Jupiter, the chance that you could land in the "Big Red Spot", etc.]

ooc
Jupiter a gas planet, the only place you live on be it's moons

OOC: Just a question, is it possible for a nation with a 'powerhouse' economy to colonies a moon or setup a space station?

OOC: Just a question, is it possible for a nation with a 'powerhouse' economy to colonies a moon or setup a space station?

OOC: If a nation with a powerhouse economy can be filled with vampires and other bullshitery, I guess anything is possible.

OOC: u are soo funny.

OOC: All I'm saying is that you'll want to be sure to build the base on the dark side of the moon.

OOC: I got a better idea, how about, I stay with my crazy ideas and stay on Earth? Maybe when I hit the billion point I might setup a space colony.

OOC: This is ridiculous, CA just lost a ton of money fighting, and then he lands on Jupiter? The cost of going to Mars probably is 500 billion USD. Now count how much to Jupiter.

OOC: That'll be in the tens of trillions then.

OOC: This is ridiculous, CA just lost a ton of money fighting, and then he lands on Jupiter? The cost of going to Mars probably is 500 billion USD. Now count how much to Jupiter.

no ridiculous is it's a gas planet how do you land on it in the first place?

@ Imperial isa: wouldn't there be a core or a surface on the planet? Because I presume there is some kind of surface on Jupiter. However, landing on it and it kills you quikcly and painfully. So I doubt anyone can live on Jupiter.

@ Imperial isa: wouldn't there be a core or a surface on the planet? Because I presume there is some kind of surface on Jupiter. However, landing on it and it kills you quikcly and painfully. So I doubt anyone can live on Jupiter.

there is No surface only the core an you never get near it as the atmosphere pressure will kill you

@ahhh...now I understand how it works. thanks for that Ii

[OOC: The cost for a crap rocket that can make it to the moon would go to the millions if not billions, and this would not include any extra expenditures for equipment, human support, etc. To Mars, the bare minimum would be in the billions. To Jupiter, I don't know. Hundreds of billions if not trillions, perhaps?

Also, Jupiter has no "surface", per se, as Imperial isa said. To quote the omnipresent wiki,
Unlike rocky planets gas giants do not have a clearly defined surface. The atmospheres of gas giants simply become denser toward the core, perhaps with liquid or liquid-like states in between. Therefore one cannot "land on" such planets in the traditional sense. Terms such as diameter, surface area, volume, surface temperature, and surface density may refer only to the outermost layer visible from space.

Which means, you cannot colonise Jupiter. Its moons, perhaps, since there was water found on one of them, but not Jupiter itself. This is where detail comes into play. Regardless, CA is a war-torn wasteland that's even more barren than Stoklomolvi. And that's some barrenness there.]

OOC: Leaving out the obvious Jupiter being a gas planet, I believe it would take generations to get there with a ship full of people. Meaning that you would need a ship the size of a f@cking city (or even country) with its own forests to produce air, farms for food, and so on.

[OOC: With a ship full of people, perhaps five to ten years. The Voyager 1 launched in 1977 and reached Jupiter in 1979, though it was a 722 kg space probe. At any rate, you would need craploads of supplies.]

OOC: why bother with that when you can attempt to colonies Mars? hahahaha!!

[OOC: With a ship full of people, perhaps five to ten years. The Voyager 1 launched in 1977 and reached Jupiter in 1979, though it was a 722 kg space probe. At any rate, you would need craploads of supplies.]

OOC: Indeed, I still imagine trying to send a buttload of people would make the process significantly longer. Especially navagating the asteroid belt and if you don't enough fuel you'll just be drifting for awhile.

OOC: why bother with that when you can attempt to colonies Mars? hahahaha!!

OOC: You ever played Battle Dawn?

[OOC: This is even more bullshit than saying a soldier can survive being shot by a tank at point blank while also being bombarded with heavy 200mm+ artillery. Canedian Army, your nation is a ruin. You have no money, no military, absolutely no resources leaving you with low return for any sort of investment, and there is no possible way that you could have any launch pad suitable to launch a rocket into space that can reach Jupiter. Even then, the force of gravity on Jupiter, which I have calculated to yield something around 25.1399 m/s/s acceleration to the centre of Jupiter along the surface; I would think that your people would be killed by gravity alone, not to mention the inhospitable "climate" of Jupiter, the chance that you could land in the "Big Red Spot", etc.]

Yeah, Its not wise, you will be crushed by gravity.. and all that he said up there is true. My suggestion is, if your coming in to FT, try some place more reasonable Like Titan, IO, the asteroid belt .

OOC: Noped and I have a feeling something is going to happen.

Bother with the OOC tags.

If you get close enough to Jupiter, its gravitational force should be more than enough to drag you in. You don't need THAT much fuel, just enough for you to get away from the gravitational pull of the moon, Mars, the asteroids, etc., and the moons of Jupiter. Unless, of course you're heading for the moons, in which case colonisation might actually be possible. In a century or two.

Battle Dawn? I remember getting massacred by the crapload of huge cities in China. It was terrible. I got a special artefact thingy, and they trampled over me.

LOL, that always happens with relics and crystals. Unless you have a massive army, never get those two things.

Unfortunately for me, the crystal appeared in my city. The next day, I found out that there were five armies ready to kill me, each with tonnes of those little aircraft symbols in chevron formation. Turns out that my city was pretty much gone by then, so I just quit.

Yeah, it's a brutal game.

[OOC: When will you get the idea that everything you're doing is impossible? I have but one thing to say. ZOMG PWNED]