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Freedom Coalition interest thread (OOC)

Ascelonia
17-08-2008, 21:34
I've seen lots of new unions about freedom, liberty, and sovereignty. What about profit and the pursuit of happiness? What about extending your borders or securing trade interests? This is what the "Freedom" Coalition seeks to do for member states.

Post thoughts.

Interested Nations
Kirav
Uiri
Ustio North
17-08-2008, 21:39
Sorry, so your offering Profit, Happiness, Border Extensions and Trade Interests?

Well, sounds good, but it's not for me.
Ascelonia
17-08-2008, 21:40
Basically, I'm offering member states anything they want. They can help poor nations or destroy them. It doesn't matter to me. It's all based on consensus between member states on whether or not to interfere or to support whichever side.
Kirav
17-08-2008, 21:44
I am actually quite interested. Especially because border extension and trade are involved.
Ascelonia
17-08-2008, 21:57
I am actually quite interested. Especially because border extension and trade are involved.

Good... I'll add you to interested members list.
Ascelonia
17-08-2008, 22:07
I hope the signatories will also contribute to the Freedom Coalition's "Peace"keeping forces and the Satellite.
Xeraph
17-08-2008, 22:09
Basically, I'm offering member states anything they want. They can help poor nations or destroy them. It doesn't matter to me. It's all based on consensus between member states on whether or not to interfere or to support whichever side.


Hmmmm...so if someone wants to invade and enslave a less fortunate nation, that's OK with you as long as there's a concensus among members of this Coalition.

Another thought: just who the hell are you to be offering anybody anything?

I'm just wondering how long it would be before a nation more powerful than you would get fed-up with this Coalition and choose to do something about it.

Beware, my friend......
Ascelonia
17-08-2008, 22:23
Hmmmm...so if someone wants to invade and enslave a less fortunate nation, that's OK with you as long as there's a concensus among members of this Coalition.

Another thought: just who the hell are you to be offering anybody anything?

I'm just wondering how long it would be before a nation more powerful than you would get fed-up with this Coalition and choose to do something about it.

Beware, my friend......

1. Yes, along as there is consensus. Hey, this is just a thought. I doubt there would be to invade weaker nations.

2. Well... yes, I'm not really offering anybody anything other than the AMSD. It's up to them to decide. I'm basically just offering them a union of nations.

3. Yeah. Like you.

I don't feel that it is right for bigger nations to go about bullying smaller nations. I didn't specify whether we would invade smaller nations. I specifically said weaker (as in economically). Personally, I wouldn't invade a nation just for economic gain. They'd have to do something stupid.
Ascelonia
17-08-2008, 22:26
Hey! Nation States is based off of Jeniffer Government. It's about DYSTOPIA not utopia.

EDIT: Hm... I've thought about it for a second and perhaps I have changed my mind.
Xeraph
17-08-2008, 22:40
1. Yes, along as there is consensus. Hey, this is just a thought. I doubt there would be to invade weaker nations.

2. Well... yes, I'm not really offering anybody anything other than the AMSD. It's up to them to decide. I'm basically just offering them a union of nations.

3. Yeah. Like you.

I don't feel that it is right for bigger nations to go about bullying smaller nations. I didn't specify whether we would invade smaller nations. I specifically said weaker (as in economically). Personally, I wouldn't invade a nation just for economic gain. They'd have to do something stupid.


1....So like your Mom used to say, "If everyone wanted to jump off a cliff, you'd do it too?"

2...A nation who is putting forth the notion that it would be a good idea to form a Coalition/Alliance automatically bears the responsibility to lead that group in a manner befitting the group's goals. By offering a union of nations, you by default become the leader. It's your job to define the parameters of the intent of the union.

3...If your'e implying that I'm bullying you, your'e mistaken. I wouldn't bother mobilizing my forces for what would be an extremely quick campaign. No, there are numerous others that would undoubtedly step in to correct such a situation.
Ascelonia
17-08-2008, 22:53
1....So like your Mom used to say, "If everyone wanted to jump off a cliff, you'd do it too?"

2...A nation who is putting forth the notion that it would be a good idea to form a Coalition/Alliance automatically bears the responsibility to lead that group in a manner befitting the group's goals. By offering a union of nations, you by default become the leader. It's your job to define the parameters of the intent of the union.

3...If your'e implying that I'm bullying you, your'e mistaken. I wouldn't bother mobilizing my forces for what would be an extremely quick campaign. No, there are numerous others that would undoubtedly step in to correct such a situation.

1. Does everybody want to jump off a cliff?

2. I'm not leading it. Someone else can.

3. You seem aggressive and angry. It would be extremely quick to destroy my main forces, but I'd carry on a guerilla war.
Xeraph
17-08-2008, 23:06
1. Does everybody want to jump off a cliff?

2. I'm not leading it. Someone else can.

3. You seem aggressive and angry. It would be extremely quick to destroy my main forces, but I'd carry on a guerilla war.


I'm neither aggressive nor angry. And you miss the point. There would be less than 1% chance that you'd be invaded. Your Coalition would either fall apart from misleadership or there'd be enough nations who would diplomatically bring the alliance to it's senses.
Ascelonia
17-08-2008, 23:17
I'm neither aggressive nor angry. And you miss the point. There would be less than 1% chance that you'd be invaded. Your Coalition would either fall apart from misleadership or there'd be enough nations who would diplomatically bring the alliance to it's senses.

You pose an interesting point. I'd like to start some kind of evil coalition thing without hurting real nations (as in NS) or getting hurt.
Ustio North
17-08-2008, 23:18
With all due respect Xeraph, you have been a tad aggresive here. If its not your cup of tea, fine - but don't discourage others from doing it. I was expecting a little more tolerance of this sort of thing from a veteran member like yourself.
Uiri
17-08-2008, 23:29
I'd be interested, particularly if Kirav is interested. The idea of just an alliance started for the purpose of having an alliance has been floating in my head for sometime to.
Ascelonia
17-08-2008, 23:37
I'd be interested, particularly if Kirav is interested. The idea of just an alliance started for the purpose of having an alliance has been floating in my head for sometime to.

Thank you.

I'm also interested in extending the AMSD to the Freedom Coalition.
Ascelonia
17-08-2008, 23:39
With all due respect Xeraph, you have been a tad aggresive here. If its not your cup of tea, fine - but don't discourage others from doing it. I was expecting a little more tolerance of this sort of thing from a veteran member like yourself.

I was expecting him to post something along the lines of deploying troops to stop the FC from forming.
Xeraph
18-08-2008, 00:51
I was expecting him to post something along the lines of deploying troops to stop the FC from forming.


Ustio, I'm simply making mention of the fact that since I HAVE been around awhile, I've seen alliances, evil and otherwise, come and go. An alliance that's being formed with either an evil intent or one with vague goals ust won't last.

Ascelonia, Xeraph has never once acted alone or as part of a coalition in an initially aggressive manner. Our Emperor has ALWAYS stated that we will NEVER fire the first shot. We may see trouble brewing and mobilize forces to a particular area, but we'll never cross legal boundaries, land or sea, without a good reason. And there's only one good reason: our citizens or military were attacked. Then there's six kind of hell to pay.

I just want you to think about what your'e doing before someone not as understanding as Xeraph gets it's undies in a bundle.
Ascelonia
18-08-2008, 01:03
Ustio, I'm simply making mention of the fact that since I HAVE been around awhile, I've seen alliances, evil and otherwise, come and go. An alliance that's being formed with either an evil intent or one with vague goals ust won't last.

Ascelonia, Xeraph has never once acted alone or as part of a coalition in an initially aggressive manner. Our Emperor has ALWAYS stated that we will NEVER fire the first shot. We may see trouble brewing and mobilize forces to a particular area, but we'll never cross legal boundaries, land or sea, without a good reason. And there's only one good reason: our citizens or military were attacked. Then there's six kind of hell to pay.

I just want you to think about what your'e doing before someone not as understanding as Xeraph gets it's undies in a bundle.

Okay...