NationStates Jolt Archive

ooc: tanks for sale!
IC:

A newreel flaswed onto the screen showing a woman with some very large assests standing next to a very large and deadly looking tanks.
"Hello citizens of the world, Im Tania, Tania Day of Tanks Alot tank emporium where we have a type of tank for every need, ranging from the newly designed and feared Hellbringer tank, and the IronRain Mobile Rocket Artillery unit too everything from IFV's to tanks that would make the P.1500 look like a childs toy" said the lady in a purring voice as she stradded the twin barrels of the Hellbringer.

All buys please feel free to call this number to order now buy 100 tanks get 10 free!. a number darted across the screen as the news cast ended.

Stats:
Hellbringer Assult Tank.

Key Data
Crew 4 ( Driver,Commander,Gunner,Loader)

Dimensions
Length (With Gun Forward) 11m
Height 2.70m
Width 4.3m (+ 0.90m with slat armour fitted)
Weight 84t
Ground Clearance Fixed. Default at 46cm

Performance
Maximum (Governed) Speed 44mph
Cross Country Speed 42mph
Speed, 10% Slope 28mph kph
Speed, 60% slope 14mph kph
Acceleration 0mph to 23mph in 9seconds
Range 700 km (640 km at operational cruising speed)

Suspension Hydropneumatic

Armament
Main Armament x2 120mm Calibur KATG Electro chemically powered
Coaxial Weapon <insert generica modern tank coaxilhereimtolazytofindoneilike>
Additional Laterally mounted 2 barrelled multi-purpose grenade launchers

Power:
Propulsion; Modular – default powerplant 50L KTE Multifuel experimental squirt twin-turbo diesel 2,200 HP at 3300RPM.
Transmission Hydropneumatic automatic transmission (6 fwd gears, 1 rvse)

Twin guns are an excessively bad design error. Take it to the NSD.

Give me 5, i want to test.

OOC: If you want to use Lyran stat blocks, wording and bits of data, it might be better to either ask him first, or change the format so it isn't recognisable.

I just want 5.

ooc: errm, yea sorry about that but i need something to base my basic stats on im not going to keep using this stat block im going to change it around once i finally figure one out atm i kinda got one but its a bit wishy washy when i finally fix it up it wont be the same promise. also i did run it by NSD and they didnt help so i want ahead with it anyway!this is NS! anything is possible within reason.
IC:

Due to the recent instablities in your nation, the delivery of the tanks has been postponed untill such time as the instablities clear up. you many send something to pick it up but we are unwilling to endaer lives for now

total cost : 5million.

We will send something.

After careful monitoring of the situation, the Government of Salzland believes that at this time it is against the best interests of the global community to provide arms and munitions to the Government of Canedian Army.

As such, we are prepared to make a counter-offer for the weapons systems purchased by CA: We are willing to pay four times the value ($20 million for the whole order), to have sale of those tanks refused, and in turn offered to Salzland.

Should this offer be refused, as is the right of the seller, all parties should be advised the elements of the Salzland Defense Force navy are being deployed to establish a blockade of Canedian Army, with the intent of preventing the import of weapons of war.

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Stoklomolvi Commissariat of State
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 0, Null Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: General Statement

Stoklomolvi offers $500 million to the government of Kewen to prevent the sale of munitions to Canedian Army at all.

Regards,
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Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Commissar of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
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Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi

ooc:bah just leave the poor guy alone hes already in enough shit, whats 5 tanks going to do.(both offers)
also when i ifnalise everything ima slap it into my Storefront.
IC:

Sadly we have to refuse your requests as in some of our circles this is considered a form of bribery.

but we will gladly sell other tanks to you.

So you are planning to attack me arent you? That is why you make people not sell stuff to me, so i got less defences.

Err. . . didn't we just get done saying one gun good, two guns bad?

OOC: Everybody seems to be on an 'Ignore-the-Draftroom' spree.

Yea the Draft room would have some words for this,
but they'd probably have words for all the other "questionable " things which
are sold in II.
How does one become a member on the Draft room? I thought I had it, but now I can't
find it.

Oh I do agree that two guns is excessive,
1 You'd need two loaders or it would take twice as long,
2 It becomes harder to run the vehicle in close combat, ( like cities or forests )
It adds alot of weight but not a lot more firepower.
3, It's too heavy. While it is probably about the right estimate for weight.
Think about the Logistical Burden or moving 3,000 Abrams tanks which each weigh
60tons ( USA tons not metric ).
Think about trying to cross a bridge with these things? Most civilian bridges are rated
100-600 tons unless they are Major Land Routes, and those aren't going to be given up.
As for deploying an Abrams group,
They have to be taken on trains as close as possible, then dismounted onto very
special trucks and driven upto the staging area.
4 Spare parts are going to be a killer, even if you have them, ( I'm assuming that's the case )
You need a Mobile crane to get the turret off or Engine out when you do the work.
Maybe build a couple, and use them for parades as national pride pieces, but their
feasibility is limited. Look at the Super tanks Hitler wanted. You are reaching the upper
limits of usefulness in an armored vehicle.
And it won't be any safer from Bombs, missiles or shoulder fired rockets.
Let alone Counter Battery fire.
But if you post a picture of it, I might buy some for kicks. Big tanks make Big Tracks...

OOC:Lol. I have to agree with everyone. Please note: We will just take said tanks from CA by force. The blockade should do that nicely, wether it is Uiri, Salzland, I, or anyother.

Yea the Draft room would have some words for this,
but they'd probably have words for all the other "questionable " things which
are sold in II.
How does one become a member on the Draft room? I thought I had it, but now I can't
find it.

http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?

Just register.

Stoklomolvi offers $500 million to the government of Kewen to prevent the sale of munitions to Canedian Army at all.

OOC: Is that even legal? Wouldn't that violate some kind of trade agreement?

Plus, there's not really a motive for it. Are you at war with him?

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IC: The nation of Dashie reminds the nation of Stoklomolvi to not bribe the trading community. We do not believe that this is good practice.

http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?

Just register.

I just registered.

OOC: Is that even legal? Wouldn't that violate some kind of trade agreement?

Plus, there's not really a motive for it. Are you at war with him?

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IC: The nation of Dashie reminds the nation of Stoklomolvi to not bribe the trading community. We do not believe that this is good practice.

How would that be illegal? Companies have the right to refuse sales and Stok is just giving them the incentive to make the right decision. =D

If you switch from FT to MT, this is an inevitable initial problem but solvable. If start as MT and later enter in FT too(*Edit: and insist into posting some of your FT designs in NSD), you'll end consulting Project Rho and putting links to scientific articles demonstrating how FTL won't ever work.

Just don't give up. And this is very important to remember:

How to not make an AFV guide = Anything done by Games Workshop

[OOC: Heh. I'm not in the WA, so I don't know or care about any mandatory free trade agreements. And yes, my nation just blew $500 million to prevent Kewen from sending munitions into the bottom of a radioactive lake.]