NationStates Jolt Archive


Restoration of Order

Ascelonia
12-08-2008, 20:47
The collapse of the government in Ameriganastan was not a victory. Ascelonia needed to restore order and establish a democratic government in favor of capitalism. The rebellion had totally destroyed order in Ameriganastan.

"This is Ascelonian Major General Stanislaus Yakov requesting that all foreign powers stand down. Forces from Ascelonia and the Art of War will be taking over this operation."

The sound blasted from the radioes across the country.
Salzland
12-08-2008, 20:51
OOC: It might be wise to wait for Ameriganastan's input, before we get too involved
Ascelonia
12-08-2008, 20:59
ORBAT

1 Nimitz Class Carrier USS Ascelonia
2 Montana Class Battleships
4 Zumwalt Class Destroyers
40 Sukhoi Su-37
50 F-22 Raptors
30 Sukhoi Su-47 Berkut
120 M1 Abrams
100 Leopard 2
10,000 Ascelonian Marines
20,000 Ascelonian Republican Guardsmen (ARG)
4 B-52s
500 BGM-109 Tomahawks
Ascelonia
12-08-2008, 21:00
OOC: It might be wise to wait for Ameriganastan's input, before we get too involved

OOC: Okay... I'm just basically saying that I'm invading to restore order.
Salzland
12-08-2008, 21:12
OOC: About what I gathered. Mmm-kay, might as well get started then.

IC:

While the Government of Salzland expresses gratitude that the Government of Ascelonia is willing to step in and aid in peacekeeping and reconstruction efforts, we are somewhat puzzled that a demand has been issued excluding all foreign nations except for Ascelonia and its regional allies. Certainly such an action would not be in the best interests of Ameriganastan.

Salzland Air and Naval forces will remain in the area, pending the arrival of Salzland Defense Force Marine Units.

In-Theater ORBAT:

Naval Detachment:

Nimitz-Class Aircraft Carriers: 5 (SDFS Defiant, Liberty, Valiant, Resolute and Victorious)
Carrier Air Groups: 5 (one per carrier, see Wikipedia for composition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_air_wing))
Modernized Iowa Class Nuclear-Powered Battleship: 15 (3 per battle group)
Ticonderoga-Class Cruisers: 20 (4 per battle group)
Arleigh Burke-Class Destroyers: 30 (6 per group)
Oliver Hazard Perry-Class Frigates: 50 (10 per group)
USS Virginia-Class SSN: 20 (4 per group)
Supply-Class T-AOE Combat Logistics vessels: 15 (3 per group)

Air Detachment:

6 F-22 Air Superiority Wings (72 fighters/wing)
5 F-15C Air Superiority Wings (72 fighters/wing)
3 F-15E Ground Attack Wings (72 fighters/wing)
1 A-10 Thunderbolt II Ground Attack Wing (72 aircraft/wing)
1 Squadron of B-2 Spirits (16 bombers/squadron)
1 Squadron of B-1 Lancers (16 bombers/squadron)
1 Squadron of B-52 Bombers (16 bombers/squadron)
1 Wing of KC-135 Tankers (60 aircraft/wing)
Various C-130 and C-17 transport aircraft

En-Route ORBAT

Ground Detachment:

8 Divisions of Salzland Defense Force Marines (10,000 men/division)
-6 Mechanized Infantry Divisions
-2 Armored Divisions

Mech. Infantry Division:
-160 M1A2 Tanks
-200 M2A3 Bradley APCs
-30 M-109 Paladin Self-Propelled guns
-10 M-270 MLRS
(4,000) Armored + Maintenance personnel
(6,000) Combat Infantry

Armored Division:
-320 M1A2 Tanks
-300 M2A3 Bradley APCs
-50 M-109 Paladin Self-Propelled guns
-25 M-270 MLRS
(5,500) Armored + Maintenance personnel
(4,500) Combat Infantry

Totals:
1,600 M1A2 Tanks
1,800 M2A3 Bradley APCs
280 M-109 Paladin Self-Propelled guns
110 M-270 MLRS
35,000 Armored + Maintenance personnel
45,000 Combat Infantry

Edit: Assorted organic avaition units (Kiowa scout helicopters, Apaches, Blackhawks, etc.) and associated personnel not listed, but present, because I don't feel like altering my generic Peacekeeping ORBAT.

Edit #2: Logistics. Yes, I have them, yes, they're being deployed, yes, I realized I'd forgotten them about 5 minutes after I left the house. Call it 225,000 logistics, across the various branches.
Ursava
12-08-2008, 21:16
To: The Government of Ascelonia.
From: Ursavian Ministry of War.

Though we to believe that the government should be restored we are quizical about your demand that only Ascelonia and her regional allies are to participate in this. Being as we already have one submarine and one aircraft carrier in the area along with a special forces team in the area, we are sending more military support in order to keep the public under order while the government it put in place and restoration goes underway.
Ascelonia
12-08-2008, 22:04
To: Foreign Powers
From: Ascelonia

We are glad that your nations are aiding us in keeping order, but we request that you withdraw your forces unless you are aiding in establishing a democratic government.

To: Salzland
From: Ascelonia

We are happy that you have deployed forces to aid us. However, we are alarmed by the rather large military presence you have deployed. Our troops are a little disturbed by the increasing presence of your nation within Ameriganastan.
Salzland
12-08-2008, 22:11
To: The Government of Ascelonia
From: Office of the Minister for Foreign Relations, Salzland

Sirs,

While you are certainly within your rights to point out the apparent "large" Salzland Defense Force presence deployed for peacekeeping operations in Ameriganastan, we would like to point out that Ameriganastan at the moment has a population of roughly 190 million, and appears to be in a total state of anarchy (OOC: Per the OP). As such, we feel that it is prudent to err on the side of caution, and ensure that peacekeeping forces are over-prepared, rather than over-whelmed. Additionally, by mutual consent between Salzland and Ameriganastan, SDF Air and Naval deployments have remained in the region until the establishment of an internationally-verified elected government.

We look forward to co-ordinating efforts aimed at restoring an elected government to Ameriganastan, and appreciate your commitment of forces to aid us in achieving this objective.

Signed,

J. Marcus Davis
Salzland Minister for Foreign Relations

OOC Edit: And I'm almost certainly light on the logistics personnel, in reality I should probably have closer to 225,000 across all three branches of the SDF

OOC Edit #2: As a bit of comparison, the U.S. deployed somewhere between 12-20,000 troops to Bosnia for peacekeeping back in 1995, when the U.S. Defense budget was in the toilet. Those troops were intended to help police a population of approximately 5 million. So for policing a nation 38 times the size of Bosnia, I'm not being entirely unreasonable.
Ascelonia
12-08-2008, 22:42
In response to the increase of forces within Ameriganastan, the AOW is sending 12 battalions of peacekeepers (under Ascelonian command) and a secret air division. Ascelonia will also be deploying more forces and reorganizing (Ascelonia is a sea/air based nation).

ORBAT Command
AOW Peacekeeping Corps II- Major General Stanislaus Yakov
Ascelonian Combat Support Corps I & II- General Natalie Cornaugh
Ascelonian Marine Corps I & II- Lieutenant General Daniel Augustin
Ascelonian Republican Guards Corps I, II, & IV- General Jason Freeman
Ascelonian Republican Guards Corps V, VI, & VII- General Stephen Evans
Ascelonian Advanced Infantry Corps IV- General David Laurens
Ascelonian Armoured Corps II- General Lucas Armistead
Ascelonian Sky Guard Wing I & VI- Sky Admiral Kristen Horatio
Ascelonian Carrier Battle Group I & II- Admiral Joshua St. John

ORBAT Forces
1,173 M1 Abrams
963 Leopard 2s
232 M113s
117 BTR-50s
About 112,000 ARG
About 24,000 marines
About 5,000 paratroopers
About 44,000 support specialists
??? special aircraft
?? special missiles
100 BGM-109 Tomahawks
25 Su-47 Berkuts
25 F-22 Raptors
10 B-52 Stratofortresses
2 Nimitz Class Carriers (ASV Ascelonia & ASV Liberty)
2 Carrier Air Wings
3 Spruance Class Destroyers
5 Iroquois Class Destroyers
6 Tourville Class Destroyers
4 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers
6 Arleigh Burke Class Guided Missile Destroyers
5 Los Angelos Class Attack Submarines
2 Supply Class Fast Combat Support Ships
Ascelonia
12-08-2008, 22:44
To: The Government of Salzland
From: President of Ascelonia

We were not aware of such an agreement, but we will do all within our power to ensure that this country becomes a democracy rather than a communist state.
Salzland
12-08-2008, 22:55
To: The President of Ascelonia
From: Office of the President of Salzland

Sir,

Perhaps there was some earlier mis-understanding, but we are certainly thrilled to hear of your committment to ensuring that Ameriganastan establish an elected government. We are even happier, though also somewhat puzzled, to hear that your nation is opposed to the establishment of a Communist state in Ameriganastan. You must forgive me, but I was unaware that the threat of such a state coming into being in Ameriganastan was present. Anarchy, certainly, but not Communism.

As a nation who has shed blood alongside valiant nations opposed to Communistic Imperialism, and laid to rest many a good man and woman in the defense of Freedom, you may rest assured in our committment to the support of free and fair elections in Ameriganastan. In the face of any, and all opponents.

Signed,

William Phillips
President of Salzland
Ascelonia
12-08-2008, 23:05
To: The President of Salzland
From: The President of Ascelonia

Dear Mr. President of Salzland,

I am a fairly inexperienced leader, but I have seen the horrors of fascism and communism throughout my life and I will not let communists take control of Ameriganastan.

I was once a rebel fighting against the communist government established after the Great War and when we won there was chaos, but we fought against it. I am dedicated to ensuring that order and freedom is maintained throughout the freeworld. I would like to negotiate with you on the fate of Ameriganastan.

Sincerely,

Christopher He
President of Ascelonia
President of Art of War
Razorl
12-08-2008, 23:39
To: The President of Ascelonia
From: The Krutev

I will not stand by while your democratic halluctions attempt to take over a government and attempt to spread your ideals, emphasis on YOUR IDEALS!
Remove forces from ameriganistan or face full scale WAR.

Goodday you poor Corrupted Soul,
The Krutev
Ascelonia
12-08-2008, 23:48
To: The Krutev
From: The President of Ascelonia

I am confident that this issue can be resolved peacefully. However, we hope that you will back down on your threats of war. Democracy will always win through in the end and we promise that this is how it will end up. How would you like to resolve this? If it's war that you want. You will have it.

Sincerely,

Christopher He
President of Ascelonia
President of Art of War
Ascelonia
13-08-2008, 00:20
To: The President of Ascelonia
From: The Krutev

I will not stand by while your democratic halluctions attempt to take over a government and attempt to spread your ideals, emphasis on YOUR IDEALS!
Remove forces from ameriganistan or face full scale WAR.

Goodday you poor Corrupted Soul,
The Krutev

OOC: Are you going to declare war or what?
Theoroshia
13-08-2008, 00:27
Theoroshia wishes to know why the government must be democratic, and why Ascelonia hates communism so much. When implemented right, communism can work with a few modifications.

So why not let the people decide?
Ascelonia
13-08-2008, 00:36
To: The Government of Theoroshia
From: The President of Ascelonia

I wish to make it clear how the communists had destroyed our culture and way of life when they took over the Ascelonian government. I actually have nothing against communists who support democracy. I believe in socialism.

You seem to think that democracy and communism are total opposites, but democracy is a form of government and communism is an economic system. I am simply against communists until a democratic government votes to establish such a system.

Sincerely,

Christopher He
President of Ascelonia
President of Art of War
Theoroshia
13-08-2008, 00:39
Ah, okay then. We were slightly offended by your anti-communist stance, although your explanation answers our questions.
Ascelonia
13-08-2008, 00:45
OOC: It's not really anti-communist. Though, many officials within the government has such a bias due to the disasters under communist rule. It's more of democracy first.

Really OOC: I kinda wanna have war, just not a 2 billion nation that would blow me out of the water.
Theoroshia
13-08-2008, 00:46
OOC: Aye, I figured as such :)
Salzland
13-08-2008, 00:47
To: The President of Salzland
From: The President of Ascelonia

Dear Mr. President of Salzland,

I am a fairly inexperienced leader, but I have seen the horrors of fascism and communism throughout my life and I will not let communists take control of Ameriganastan.

I was once a rebel fighting against the communist government established after the Great War and when we won there was chaos, but we fought against it. I am dedicated to ensuring that order and freedom is maintained throughout the freeworld. I would like to negotiate with you on the fate of Ameriganastan.

Sincerely,

Christopher He
President of Ascelonia
President of Art of War

To: President He, Ascelonia
From: President Phillips, Salzland

Sir,

As long as the objective of this deployment remains the stabilization of Ameriganastan so that a new government, determined solely by the people of Ameriganastan, may take power, then Salzland remains more than happy to work with you.

Signed,

William Phillips
President of Salzland
Ascelonia
13-08-2008, 00:48
OOC: Aye, I figured as such :)

OOC: I have another 2 billion nation as a friend... I forgot... lol... it'd be a pretty interesting war.
Theoroshia
13-08-2008, 00:49
OOC: It would, although my war plans involve using nukes in the opening phases of war ;)
Ascelonia
13-08-2008, 00:51
To: Mr. Phillips, Salzland
From: Mr. He, Ascelonia

Dear Friend,

It seems that this formal friendship between our two nations has extended to us two individuals. I would like to invite you to a presidential ball at the Presidential Mansion.

On another note, I would like to know if you and your country are prepared to go all the way. In defense of democracy, a great number of communist nations are threatening us.

Sincerely,

Christopher He
President of Ascelonia
President of Art of War
Ascelonia
13-08-2008, 00:52
OOC: It would, although my war plans involve using nukes in the opening phases of war ;)

OOC: That's just wrong and a lot of nations wouldn't approve of it. We have nuclear weapons (to great cost) and we would only use it as a last resort. I see your point on communism, but human weakness always gets in the way.
Salzland
13-08-2008, 00:53
OOC: It would, although my war plans involve using nukes in the opening phases of war ;)

I'm sure you're aware that nuclear first strikes are generally grounds for a quick ignore cannon. It's just poor form, and no fun to respond to.
Ascelonia
13-08-2008, 00:56
I'm sure you're aware that nuclear first strikes are generally grounds for a quick ignore cannon. It's just poor form, and no fun to respond to.

OOC: Agreed, though that would also end in Mutually Assured Destruction. Both sides would nuke each other.

To Theo: I don't think you'd like my nation and yours to be nuclear wasteland (though mine would be total wasteland and yours would only be mostly wasteland... lol.)
Salzland
13-08-2008, 00:56
To: Mr. Phillips, Salzland
From: Mr. He, Ascelonia

Dear Friend,

It seems that this formal friendship between our two nations has extended to us two individuals. I would like to invite you to a presidential ball at the Presidential Mansion.

On another note, I would like to know if you and your country are prepared to go all the way. In defense of democracy, a great number of communist nations are threatening us.

Sincerely,

Christopher He
President of Ascelonia
President of Art of War

To: President He, Ascelonia
From: President Phillips, Salzland

Sir,

It is our duty to ensure that Ameriganastan establish a government of its choosing, no matter the cost, and no matter the choice. We will take whatever actions are necessary to reach this end.

We look forward to close co-operation with you in this matter.

Signed,

William Phillips
President of Salzland
Theoroshia
13-08-2008, 00:58
OOC: Oh, I wouldn't use theater nuclear weapons. I'd be using tactical nuclear weapons, the smaller kind. Probably 5 megatons at most, used on barracks and whatnot. That's only if I'm invading, of course.
Ascelonia
13-08-2008, 00:59
To: President He, Ascelonia
From: President Phillips, Salzland

Sir,

It is our duty to ensure that Ameriganastan establish a government of its choosing, no matter the cost, and no matter the choice. We will take whatever actions are necessary to reach this end.

We look forward to close co-operation with you in this matter.

Signed,

William Phillips
President of Salzland

To: William Phillips
From: Christopher He

Dear Mr. Phillips,

My only requirement on the matter is that you and a partner attend a presidential ball hosted in a place of your choosing.

Your Friend,

Christopher He
Salzland
13-08-2008, 01:00
5 Megatons is not a tactical nuke. It's a city killer.
Salzland
13-08-2008, 01:00
To: William Phillips
From: Christopher He

Dear Mr. Phillips,

My only requirement on the matter is that you and a partner attend a presidential ball hosted in a place of your choosing.

Your Friend,

Christopher He

Mr. President, it would be my honor to attend at a date and time of your convenience.
Ascelonia
13-08-2008, 01:01
OOC: Oh, I wouldn't use theater nuclear weapons. I'd be using tactical nuclear weapons, the smaller kind. Probably 5 megatons at most, used on barracks and whatnot. That's only if I'm invading, of course.

OOC: We'd be forced to nuke you back to the stone age. Lol. except we'd be there to. So... what are you going to fight us with? Charred wooden spears or lava rocks? I prefer lava rocks.
Ascelonia
13-08-2008, 01:02
Mr. President, it would be my honor to attend at a date and time of your convenience.

Sometime next week, Mr. President?

OOC: Tomorrow.
Salzland
13-08-2008, 01:06
Sometime next week, Mr. President?

OOC: Tomorrow.

OOC: Sure, tomorrow should work. Don't know how long I'll be able to be online for, but I'll do what I can.

OOC Some more: We're pretty much waiting for Ameriganastan now to kick this off, so I'm not sure we should fill this thread up with OOC talk, otherwise it'll be a whole lot he has to shift through when he joins up.
Theoroshia
13-08-2008, 01:07
OOC: Ah, who cares. I really only use nukes when I RP against someone who I don't like. Otherwise, I send in the good ole' Red Legion.
HeilsLand
13-08-2008, 01:23
To: To the Leaders of Ascelonia
From: The Protectorate of Heilsland

We have recieved news about a peace-keeping force. We also hear word of a rumored Political Struggle between Democracy and Communism. We are coming out of our own reforms to give more democracy to our people, after all the leaders of a country our to represent and try to make their people happy. We are a small nation as of late but have seen much boosts in the field of military service and equipment. If Heilsland is permitted, Heilsland would like to allow a military detachment to join up with any Peace-Keeping forces...We know that the situation may teeter no the brink of war but Heilsland is capable of assisting and defending herself.

Regards,
Signed ~ J. Young, ambassador of Heilsland
official message of the Council of Departments
Ascelonia
13-08-2008, 01:53
To: The Protectorate of Heilsland
From: The President of Ascelonia

We appreciate the assistance. We would also like to extend an invitation to the presidential ball.

Sincerely,

Christopher He
President of Ascelonia
President of Art of War
Stoklomolvi
13-08-2008, 02:37
[OOC: Heh, if war actually did break out between you guys and Theoroshia, I would gladly hop in on Theoroshia's side. Nuke me, nothing really changes. My nation already is a cold, cold, desolate wasteland. 5 MT is typically a strategic nuke; several kilotons is tactical.]
Oblivion2
13-08-2008, 03:34
To: The President of Ascelonia
From: Chairman Maxor Of the United Federation of Oblivion

The Federation wishes to extend it's hand to you O noble President. We would like to congratulate you on your recent victories and would like to offer our help in establishing Democracy in Ameriganastan. We would like to offer the following forces to aid in the establishment of Democracy;

Naval Detachment:

5 Atlas Aircraft Carriers: (UFO Goliath, Hercules, Odyessus, Thesus, Atlas)
18 Modernized Iowa Class Nuclear-Powered Battleship (3 per battle group)
12 Ticonderoga class cruiser (3 per group)
36 Halifax class frigate (6 per group)
33 Iroquois class destroyer (3 per group)
+
Nessicary Logistic and supply ships.

Aerial Detachment
15 F-22 Wings (72 Planes per wing)
9 Longbow Bomber Wings (32 planes per wing)
100 Boeing 747 Military Transport Planes

Ground Detachment
8 Mobile Infantry Divisions
4 Armored Divisions
1 Oblivion Commando Division

Mobile Infantry Division:
5000 Federation Riflemen
625 Spartan IFVs
+ Maintenece and logistics

Armoured Division:
322 Lyras L4 Wolfhounds
150 Abrams Main Battle Tanks
100 Spartan IFVs
150 PzH 2000s (Artillery)
2500 Federation Soldiers
100 MIM-104 Patriot (Anti Air)
+ Maintence and Logistics

Oblivion Commando Division:
300 Oblivion Commandos
12 MQ-1 Predators
+ Maintence, Logistics, and Air controllers.

Please Telegram us the locations in which our forces may land.
Sincerely yours,
Chairman Maxor
Leader of the United Federation of Oblivion.
Ascelonia
13-08-2008, 18:34
[OOC: Heh, if war actually did break out between you guys and Theoroshia, I would gladly hop in on Theoroshia's side. Nuke me, nothing really changes. My nation already is a cold, cold, desolate wasteland. 5 MT is typically a strategic nuke; several kilotons is tactical.]

OOC Post:
1. We didn't threaten to nuke anybody. He said he would use nuclear weapons as a first strike.

2. The nuclear weapons would kill your 2 billion population (not to mention fall out carried by the arctic winds). It would also cut off wherever the hell you've been getting the food to feed that many people.
Ascelonia
13-08-2008, 18:37
To: Chairman Maxor
From: President He

We are not familiar with Ameriganastan and we are still scouting out the area. Please refer to Ameriganastan for landing zones.
Oblivion2
19-08-2008, 04:01
To: Chairman Maxor
From: President He

We are not familiar with Ameriganastan and we are still scouting out the area. Please refer to Ameriganastan for landing zones.

To: President He
From: Vice-Chairman Maxor

Will do.