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Emblem of the Principality of Leichstur's Armed Forces

Motto

"Audentes Fortuna Iuvat"
Fortune favors the bold

Generals

Commander of the Armed Forces - Maximilian Hoffman
General of the Homeland Defense Force - David Fisher
General of the Leichstur Aerial Warfare Force - Leon Wolff
Grand Admiral of the Leichstur Armada - Michael Hereford
General of the Leichstur Ground Combat Force - Kurt Müller

Homeland Defense Force

Branches: Aerial Reconnaissance and Defense Division, Ground Warfare and Combat Division, and the Naval Patrol and Reconnaissance Division.

Purpose: The Homeland Defense Force, influenced by the United States Coast Guard and National Guard, is a branch of the military dedicated to acting as the primary military defense force if the rest of the Armed Forces are away during wartime. During peace time however their operations include guarding the Prince, acting as the temporary law enforcement force during a natural disaster, patrolling the coasts for smugglers and pirates, acting as back-up for police forces if a riot or civil disturbance cannot be contained or handled alone, and sometimes dedicating their numbers or vehicles to a search and rescue operation.

Equipment: Most equipment is shared with the other branches of the Armed Forces. However they have their own patrol/reconnaissance vessels.
Patrol Boats: PC-14 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone_class_Patrol_ship), PHM-6 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_class_hydrofoil), P965 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skjold_class_patrol_boat), and Advocate Class Patrol Submarine (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13607842&postcount=446)

Leichstur Aerial Warfare Force

Branches: None

Purpose: The Leichstur Aerial Warfare Force is the nation's main force for aerial reconnaissance, assault, and combat. It controls the fighters, the transports, the bombers, tankers, trainer aircraft, special purpose helicopters, and the airborne communication and command airplanes. Its aircraft are also used throughout the Armed Forces for various purposes. It also operates a number of VIP transports for the Prince and his advisers.

Equipment:
Strike Fighter:
-F-15E Strike Eagle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-15E_Strike_Eagle)

Air Superiority Fighter:
-Eurofighter Typhoon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurofighter_Typhoon)
-Sukhoi Su-30MKI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi-30_MKI)
-AV-28 Wraith (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13955562&postcount=4)

Bombers:
-B-2 Spirit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-2_Spirit)
-Avro Vulcan B.1A variant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Vulcan)

Transports/Special Operation Aircraft:
-C-17 Globemaster III (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-17_Globemaster_III)
-CV-22B Variant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-22_Osprey)
-C-130J "Super" Hercules (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-130J_Super_Hercules)

Electronic Warfare and Command Platforms:
-E-8C JSTARS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-8_Joint_STARS)
-Boeing 737 AEW&C (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_AEW%26C)

Helicopters:
-HH-3E Jolly Green Giant variant and the CH-3C variant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_S-61R)
-AS 532 SC search and rescue variant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocopter_AS_532)

Tankers:
-Airbus A310 MRTT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A310_MRTT)

Reconnaissance:
-MQ-9 Reaper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MQ-9_Reaper)
-P-3C Update IV variant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-3_Orion)

Trainers:
-T-37B variant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_T-37)
-T-38C variant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_T-38_Talon)
-Tucano Mk.53 (Leichstur export variant) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_Tucano)
-B200 variant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beechcraft_Super_King_Air)

VIP Transport:
-CL-605 variant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_Challenger_600)
-Custom variant for VIP Transportation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_747-8)
-747-300 variant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_747)

Close-Air Support:
A-10C Thunderbolt II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-10_Thunderbolt_II)
AC-130H (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_AC-130)


Leichstur Ground Combat Force

Branches: First Assault Division, Mechanized Combat and Tactics Division, Special Operations and Combat Division, Paratrooper's Division, and Primary Ground Warfare Division.

Purpose: The Leichstur Ground Combat Force serves as the nation's main ground forces. Each division serves a special purpose. The First Assault Division are the soldiers deployed first into an invasion, the Mechanized Combat and Tactics Division consists of all of Leichstur's ground vehicles, helicopters and engineers and crew men for these vehicles, the Paratrooper's Division serves as the troops deployed via paradrops, the Special Operations and Combat Division is Leichstur's Special Forces, and the Primary Ground Warfare Division are the troops deployed after the First Assault Division and the equivalent of the general Army of a nation.

Equipment:
Infantry:

Rifleman - T.A.R. 21 (Primary Assault Rifle) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMI_Tavor_TAR-21), Glock 20 (Primary sidearm) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock_20), M69 Fragmentation Grenade x2, Smoke Grenade (White Smoke) x1. Type IV Bulletproof Vest.

Recon - MP7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP7) or Kriss Super V (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TDI_Kriss), Glock 20 (Primary sidearm) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock_20), M69 Fragmentation Grenade x2, Smoke Grenade (White Smoke) x1, Flash Grenade x2. Type IV Bulletproof Vest.

Sniper - SR-M110 SASS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M110_Semi-Automatic_Sniper_System), Glock 20 (Primary sidearm) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock_20), Smoke Grenade (White Smoke) x3, M69 Fragmentation Grenade x1, Flash Grenade x1. Type IIIA Bulletproof Vest.

Support - LWRC IAR (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LWRC_Infantry_Automatic_Rifle) or FN Minimi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_MINIMI), Glock 20 (Primary sidearm) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock_20), Smoke Grenade (White Smoke) x1, Fragmentation Grenade x3, Flash Grenade x2. Type III Bulletproof Vest.

Heavy Weapons - Benelli M4 11707 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benelli_M4_Super_90) or Beowulf Assault Rifle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CrUARlmqso), AT4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT4), Glock 20 (Primary sidearm) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock_20), Fragmentation Grenade x3, Flash Grenade x2, Incendiary Grenade x1. Type III Bulletproof Vest.

Medic - M.T.A.R. 21 (Primary Assault Rifle) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMI_Tavor_TAR-21#Micro_Tavor), Glock 20 (Primary sidearm) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock_20), Smoke Grenade (White Smoke) x2, Flash Grenade x2, M69 Fragmentation Grenade x1. Type III Bulletproof Vest.

Engineer - G36K (Primary Assault Rifle) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_G36), Glock 20 (Primary sidearm) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock_20), Smoke Grenade (White Smoke) x2, Flash Grenade x1, M69 Fragmentation Grenade. Type II Bulletproof Vest

Special Ops - HK416 (Primary Assault Rifle) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HK_416), CheyTac M200 (Primary Sniper Rifle) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CheyTac_Intervention), MP5SD3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP5) or Bushmaster ACR (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magpul_Masada),Heckler & Koch MK23 Mod 0 (Primary Sidearm) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_MK23), Smoke Grenade x2 (White Smoke for day Red Smoke for Night), Flash Grenade x3, Fragmentation Grenade x1. Type III Bulletproof Vest.

Special Purpose Weapons - M224 Mortar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M224_Mortar), M120 Mortar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M120_120_mm_mortar), M240E6 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M240_machine_gun), Heckler & Koch GMG (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_GMG), Standard Issue Fällkniven Combat Knife for all troops (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A4llkniven), SIMON Breach Grenade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIMON_breach_grenade), M14 Anti-Personnel Mine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M14_mine), and APOBS Obstacle Breaching System (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipersonnel_Obstacle_Breaching_System).


Vehicles:

Primary MBT - Challenger 2E (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_2_tank)
Secondary MBT - Leopard 2A6 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_2)
HMMWV - Eagle IV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOWAG_Eagle)
IFV - Puma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puma_(IFV)) and M50 "Spartan II" (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13169289&postcount=163)
APC - Piranha V (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mowag_Piranha) and M1272 "Rhino" (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12774829&postcount=20)
Light Tank - Stryker Mobile Gun System (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stryker_Mobile_Gun_System) and M59A1 "Russ" (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13337652&postcount=262)
Anti-Armor - Panzerjäger I (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9124423&postcount=78)
AVLB - Panzerschnellbrücke 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_2#Engineering_and_driver_training_tanks)
CEV - Pionierpanzer 3 Kodiak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_2)
ARV - M88A2 Hercules (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M88_Recovery_Vehicle)
Self-Propelled Artillery - PzH 2000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PzH_2000)
Mobile Artillery - AMOS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOS)
Rocket Artillery - M270 MLRS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M270_MLRS)
Towed Artillery - M777 Howitzer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M777)
Self-Propelled AA - Flakpanzer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flugabwehrkanonenpanzer_Gepard), Machbet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machbet)
Heavy Lift/Cargo Helicopter - MH-47G (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CH-47_Chinook) and CH-53E Super Stallion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CH-53E_Super_Stallion)
Attack Helicopter - Tiger UHT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocopter_Tiger) and Mi-24 SuperHind Mk.V (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-24)
Transport Helicopter - MH-60L DAP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UH-60) and Mi-8TBK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-8)
Special Purpose Vehicles - All variants of the Mowag (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mowag_Piranha) and "Trojan" Urban Combat Vehicle (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9161915&postcount=86)

Camouflage: Night Time Operation (http://blacksheepnc.com/WordPress/wp-content/uploads/krewphantomhoody.jpg), Woodsland (http://www.seattlefabrics.com/FPC%20Woodland%20Camo.jpg), Desert (http://www.rockywoods.com/camouflage/Digital-camo-fleece.jpg), Urban (http://www.outinstyle.com/Merchant2/graphics/products/detail/F545412061_d.jpg), Woodland Winter (http://www.bowhunting.net/artman2/uploads/1/xSticksNLimbs-Snow-01.jpg), Basic Winter (Plain White), and Autumn Woodland (http://www.seattlefabrics.com/Autumn%20Camo%20in%20Spandex.jpg)

Uniform: Dress Uniforms resemble the style of Nazi Germany officer dress uniforms and combat uniforms resemble those of the United States Army.

Leichstur Armada

Branches: None

Purpose: Being an island nation surrounded largely by water on all sides a strong navy was a must for Leichstur. The Leichstur Armada contains all of the nation's warships, utility ships, cargo ships, and aircraft carriers.

Ships in Service:
Aircraft Carrier:CVN-69 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Dwight_D._Eisenhower_(CVN-69)) and CVN-78 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_R._Ford_class_aircraft_carrier)

Amphibious Assault Ship: LSL-1 (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12856951&postcount=76) and CVAN (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12856738&postcount=73)

Submarines: Type 212 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_212_submarine), SSBN (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10969088&postcount=310), SSN (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10908839&postcount=295), SG (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11055841&postcount=378), and SSHK (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11052319&postcount=365)

Cruisers: CG-73 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Port_Royal_(CG-73)) and Kalinin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_battlecruiser_Kalinin)

Destroyer: KDX-III (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sejong_the_Great_class_destroyer) and D62 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delhi_class_destroyer)

Frigates: F102 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvaro_de_Baz%C3%A1n_class_frigate) and F125 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F125)

Amphibious Transport Dock: L15 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Bulwark_(L15)) and LPDN-61 (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12856939&postcount=75)

Landing Craft: LCU (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landing_Craft_Utility) and Zubr LCAC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zubr_class_LCAC)

Corvette: Korvette 130 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braunschweig_class_corvette)

Replenishment Ship: AOE (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10991830&postcount=330)

Replenishment Oiler: A387 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Victoria_class_replenishment_oiler)

Sealift/Transport Ship: T-AKR-300 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS_Bob_Hope_(T-AKR-300))

Repair Ship: A620 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_Verne_(A620))

Hospital Ship: T-AH-19 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS_Mercy_(T-AH-19))

Royal Yacht: A540 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMS_Dannebrog_(A540))

Naval Mine: CAPTOR Naval Mine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPTOR_mine)

OOC: More to come soon. There are no numbers included as that's classified. ;)

Bumped for some comments.

You have good taste in hardware.
Some interesting choices.

I just want to point out that it's 'aerial,' not 'ariel.' Other than that, cool stuff. I'm still figuring out MT armament myself, and this looks like a good example.

Thanks for pointing out that spelling error and the compliments. I should have the ground forces done by today and may or may not work may way into the navy later on.

If you don't mind my intrusion again,
I have some ideas for your military in the way of additions,
And for your navy.

Do tell. Criticism is welcomed.

You could save alot of money by using Predator drones for much of your
low intensity roles.

For instance; Harbor patrol, beach patrol and recon, even close coastal waters can be patroled by these aircraft.

The cost of 1 drone is about $ 3-4 Million USD, but you have a "HQ"
where a series of opperators are like this:

One 30ft Cargo container which houses a group of your technitions and on
top of it is a 20ft diameter sattelite dish.
Inside you have 1 Pilot and two sensor opperators per plane, and you can run four planes from One of these boxes.
The whole unit can be put on a truck and driven into a C-130 airplane, and deployed anywhere with little notice. The Containers look just like regular containers used to store and ship goods anywhere in the world. Only the dish
gives it away.
( But the dish could be located in a parking lot to look like an old Sattelite T.V. dish. )

The whole Unit ( planes and container ) costs about $ 40 Million USD.
Or roughly the cost of 1 good fighter plane, so that you don't have to risk
a Really valuable pilot and plane on ruetine patrols over terrain which could
be dangerous.
Also they now have the ability to fire Hellfire missiles, which gives you the ablility to strike a target as soon as you see it.

Now they are not easy to fly it takes a great deal of training. But think about this.
All of your nation's parapelligic's are potential pilots! No need for legs to
remote fly these things.
Also you make it a simulator game which your nation produces and releases
for free to the High school age kids. They will teach them selves to fly and
manouver.

Yes it can't go Anywhere any time, and it is still vulnerable to missiles and
AA guns. But you can send it where you wouldn't send a real plane.

You could potentially overwhelm an enemies air defense network by flying hundreds of these as a diversion at low level, and arm them with small suside
missions like small cruise missiles! Or Use them to cripple collums of heavy
vehicles and troop movements as they move into striking distance of your borders.

I was actually considering the Predator UAVs when I was doing that section. While your idea seems a little far-fetched there are aspects of it that could be used. I'll consider it. Thanks for the suggestion. :D

I have some ideas about several potential plans for a Navy,

One is based on the Standard US navy ships and works like follows,

1 Nimitz Class Carrier $ 4.5 Billion USD + planes ( I think they are extra )
with either a complement of Euro-Fighters / Or F-35C's for your military.
And Add the Newest AEW planes you can to them. The ECM pods can be
loaded onto your fighters so you won't need dedicated Jamming planes.
But remember to keep the Helicopters and cargo planes,

4 Arleigh Burke " Cruisers " $ 800 Million USD Each
These give you about,
200+ Cruise Missiles
120 Standard SM-2 Block 4 SAM / SS / ASM missiles
64 Harpoon Anti-ship missiles
24 324mm MK 50 Torpedos ( Anti-sub or torpedo )
2,400 127mm Dual purpose Artillery rounds ( mixed load as you like )
and the point defenses and Machine guns

4 Spruance Destroyers ( Cost Uknown but about $ 200-600 Million each )
these will give you,
244 Tomahawk Cruise missiles
64 Harpoon Anti-ship missiles
24 324mm MK 50 Torpedos
4,800 127mm Dual purpose Artillery shells
Point defenses and Machine guns

4-6 Oliver Hazard Perry Frigates $ 150 Million Each
these give you ( based on four of them )
128 Standard SM-1MR missiles ( these are Anti-air / missile killers )
16 RGM-84 Harpoon Anti-ship missiles
3,600 76mm Dual purpose Artillery " MK 75 Oto Melara"
Point defenses and Machine guns,
Some models also carry Helicopters for Anti-sub Warfare

All of these also carry considerable decoys and spoofing equipment, which
could be changed to meet your nation's specific needs.

Then I'd add

1-2 Virginia Class SSN / SSK Cost $ 1-2 Billion USD
Each carrying
20 Mk 48 ADCAP Torpedos
6 RGM-84 Harpoon missiles ( fired from torpedo tubes )
16 Tomahawk TLAM-C missiles ( fired from vertical launch tubes in Hull )
These also would have the ablity to carry 60-100 Navy Seals.

You could go with the Los Angeles class if you'd like,

The UK Navy's Trafalgar Class Subs are also Amazing, and you might want
to look into them.

You might want to consider,

The Germans produce a diesel-Electric Sub called the Type 209
which is supposed to be quieter than any other sub in the world when it
runs on it's batteries.
It costs $ 150 Million Each, and they have larger and smaller models for sale.
I've sold several to some nations.
It has a range of 9,200 miles on engines and a speed of 22knts
or 500 miles on batteries.
It uses in it's current set up QT: 8, 533mm torpedo tubes.
These are large enough that the Israeli's use them to fire sub launched Cruise missiles from.

Or for surface ships,
Look up the Visby ( Swedish ) Stealth Corvette
and the PC-1 Cyclone


OH Dam! I forgot to put in the Henry J. Kaiser refueler in the list for your Carrier Group. You'll need atleast a couple of those for deep water actions.

Thanks for the suggestions on the Navy. Ships are a lot harder to judge than tanks and guns so these suggestions should help alot. Thanks for all the help. :D

If you want a navy that can actually compete with any competent opponent forget RL ships and go visit Questers' or Aequatio's storefront. They both make some of the best ship designs on NS and are world's ahead of any RL stuff. If you want to base your forces solely off RL designs I'll gladly give you my reccomendations (the stuff listed is ok, but you can do much better).

I'll be sure to check their storefronts as well then. I've chosen to base my military with actual designs so far because, well for instance the HK416 can be dipped in water and sand and fired immediately after. If there was a gun on NS that did that (there probably is) you only have the fact that they wrote that down to prove it. You can only take words so far before people start saying "It can't do that!".

If you want a navy that can actually compete with any competent opponent forget RL ships and go visit Questers' or Aequatio's storefront. They both make some of the best ship designs on NS and are world's ahead of any RL stuff. If you want to base your forces solely off RL designs I'll gladly give you my reccomendations (the stuff listed is ok, but you can do much better).

There could be a RL design which is better, but all of those ships are pretty
cutting edge. And have a combat record to prove their worth.

I'll be sure to check their storefronts as well then. I've chosen to base my military with actual designs so far because, well for instance the HK416 can be dipped in water and sand and fired immediately after. If there was a gun on NS that did that (there probably is) you only have the fact that they wrote that down to prove it. You can only take words so far before people start saying "It can't do that!".

OOC: Someone likes Future Weapons. =D

Lol well it does have some really good weapon presentations. Also, how else am I going to keep up with half of the weapons that other armys use, eh?

There could be a RL design which is better, but all of those ships are pretty
cutting edge. And have a combat record to prove their worth.

The fact that you think the Spruance (which isn't even in service anymore) and the Perry (which won't be in service much longer) are "cutting edge" casts serious doubts on your knowledge of naval warfare.

If you're going all RL tech, use the Gerald Ford class (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_R._Ford_class_aircraft_carrier) or the British CVF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CVF) for your carriers. As far as escorts the Arleigh Burke is good but the South Korean KDX-III (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDX-III) is better. The British Type 45 (tp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_45_destroyer) or the Type 23 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_23) are good ships to fill the frigate role with. The Spanish Alvaro de Bazan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvaro_de_Baz%C3%A1n_class_frigate) is good too.

At the moment the only thing keeping me from completing the ground forces is a uniform. I'm looking for something reminiscent of Germany 1942 minus the swastikas and the bad memories. :$

Bumped.

Lol well it does have some really good weapon presentations. Also, how else am I going to keep up with half of the weapons that other armys use, eh?

OOC: I love it too, my only issue is that it seems kind of unbalanced in favor of the weapon (and he reviews too much US stuff).

Thank god I don't have to worry about a navy. Huzzah for landlocked countries. XD

I'll probably be pillaging Future Weapons a fair amount myself. I'm going for a small but very well-equipped military, and FW is an easy place to find that sort of stuff.

Thank god I don't have to worry about a navy. Huzzah for landlocked countries. XD

I'll probably be pillaging Future Weapons a fair amount myself. I'm going for a small but very well-equipped military, and FW is an easy place to find that sort of stuff.

OOC: I use the same paradigm. Once you can afford it, you'll probably want to buy NS-designed equipment.

OOC: I love it too, my only issue is that it seems kind of unbalanced in favor of the weapon (and he reviews too much US stuff).

To be fair it is a show made and marketed for Americans, plus I don't know how willing foreign countries would be to have their weapons shown in such detail on US TV.

Agreed. I wish he'd do more episodes of comparisons. I know in the M468 (I believe) review he did bullet comparisons where he used the AK-47 which I thought was good because the AK is probably the most commonly seen weapon on the battlefield with some of the poorer nations.

Also, the thing about all the weapons being mostly made in the US is the fact we're the only country making enough weapons to fill 3 seasons. =P

Agreed. I wish he'd do more episodes of comparisons. I know in the M468 (I believe) review he did bullet comparisons where he used the AK-47 which I thought was good because the AK is probably the most commonly seen weapon on the battlefield with some of the poorer nations.

Also, the thing about all the weapons being mostly made in the US is the fact we're the only country making enough weapons to fill 3 seasons. =P

You obviously don't know about the Russian and Chinese arms industries.

A lot of stuff on the show are prototypes producded by the companies themselves without much military involvement, a good bit of it never enters full scale production.

I know that. The automatic grenade launcher was never put into service and the rail gun isn't going to be a practical weapon for quite a few years.

Also, Russia and China wouldn't do that largely because 90% of the weapons they produce are for themselves. Atleast with the US we export quite a few of our weapons.

I know that. The automatic grenade launcher was never put into service and the rail gun isn't going to be a practical weapon for quite a few years.

Also, Russia and China wouldn't do that largely because 90% of the weapons they produce are for themselves. Atleast with the US we export quite a few of our weapons.

Not quite, in 2006 Russia accounted for 28% of global arms sales and China accounted for 3%. The US accounted for 36%. The numbers for 2007 were about the same.

Source (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/01/us/01weapons.html?hp)

There. All done. Maybe a few changes here and there but over all mostly covered.

My only nit pick is if you're using the Stryker MGS you may as well use the full Stryker family, since using it alongside the Boxer complicates your logistics chain more than necessary.

Will do. I was just attempting to add some variety. Should I keep the variants of the VAB that the Stryker doesn't come in?

Remember that commonality is extremely important. Try to buy things that use the same parts, ammunition, etc. as it will really simplify logistics.

I replaced the VAB with the Mowag as the Stryker comes from the Mowag's design.

I replaced the VAB with the Mowag as the Stryker comes from the Mowag's design.

I assume you mean the Piranha. I would use the Piranha V (the newest version) as a replacement for the Stryker APC as well. You should also probably cut down to one MBT and one high-mobility vehicle (my preference would be towards the MOWAG Eagle although the Zinairian Armed Forces used both vehicles at one time or another).

I think i'll stick with the Challenger and Leopard as using both will balance them out, the Challenger being one of the slowest tanks and the Leopard being the fastest.

Thanks for the advice. I've added the changes you mentioned.

I think i'll stick with the Challenger and Leopard as using both will balance them out, the Challenger being one of the slowest tanks and the Leopard being the fastest.

Thanks for the advice. I've added the changes you mentioned.

I'm not a tank buff, but I was pretty sure it was the other way around.

Leopard 2 can reach 45 MPH while the Challenger can only reach 37 MPH. Also the Challengers engine only delivers 1,200 hp while the Leopard V12 Diesel can deliver 1,479 hp.

Leopard 2 can reach 45 MPH while the Challenger can only reach 37 MPH. Also the Challengers engine only delivers 1,200 hp while the Leopard V12 Diesel can deliver 1,479 hp.

Okay, guess I was wrong (as I said, not a tank buff).

No worries. =P

I added some Patrol Vessels for the HDF and some auxillary ships to the Navy.

The Brits have long favored greater armor over mobility while the Germans, Americans, and French went the other way.

It also has the record of never having lost one to enemy fire which is why I chose it as my primary. If i'm going into a heavy fire situation i'm going to want use the Challenger to back my troops up. But if i'm going to be harassing enemy troops/vehicles the Leopard has the fire power and speed of being able to hit hard and fast. They're good tanks for Blitzkrieg tactics.

I added some items from Aquetio's storefront and liquidated my old anti-tank vehicle in favor for one of his designs.

Added some submarines and replaced some other classes of ships as well.

OOC: Bumped so that this thread can be found under a search of this new Leichstur account.