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Image: http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll43/Vulture_77/SVT-50-1.png
Classification: Semi-Automatic Battle Rifle
Country of Origin: Socialist Republic of Stavinvast
Designer: Vasili Ravenkov
Designed: 1959
Manufacturer: Ravenkov Military Industries
Produced: 1960-Present
Numbers Built: 8.5 Million

First Prototype: 1960
First Combat Usage: 1964
Users: Volzgradien Patriotic Army, Volzgradien Peoples Militia, Cypronese Army, Socialist Rynibarian Army
Variants: SKR-78 (successor), SKRS-78 Carbine, SKRG-59 Grenadier Rifle

Weight: 3.1kg (Premium), 4.6kg (Regular), 4.8kg (Budget)
Length:1,200mm
Barrel Length: 560mm

Cartridge: 7.62x54Rmm Volzgradien (Soviet)
Magazine Type: Detachable Double Stacked Box Magazine
Magazine Capacity: 20 Rounds
Action: Gas operated, Rotating bolt
Rate of Fire: 300 rounds per minute (semi-auto), 1200 rounds per minute (burst)
Muzzle Velocity: 870.480.4 m/s
Effective Range: 480 meters, 800+ meters (with optics)
Sights: Iron sights (standard issue), 6x zoom scope (snipers)
Cost: $70 USD (Budget: cheap wood and steel), $120 USD (Regular: wood and steel), $250 USD (Premium: Plastics and composite materials)

*Note* Thanks Cazelia for providing me with your G1 Design.

Description:

There are few things more frightening in this world then seeing another man's head get blown off by a high powered rifle round, fortunately for the Volzgradiens, they have such a weapon standard issue. Created by the now world famous arms designer Vasili Ravenkov, the SKR-50 Battle Rifle is as home in the hands of a farmer as it is in the hands of a special operations soldier. Despite its age, the SVT-50 has proven to be the perfect weapon for both the Volzgradien Military and others.

Unlike most battle rifles, the SKR-59 is capable of both semi-automatic and burst fire. This allows the shooter to not only be accurate, but also have a surprisingly good rate of fire and power. With its long barrel, the SKR-59 can hit targets accurately from kilometers away. However, the true beauty of the SKR-59 is its cost. At only $70 to $120 dollars per rifle, the SKR-59 is cheaper and easier to build then even the AK-47!

Another excellent part of the SKR-59 is its incredible reliability. With a chrome lined barrel, few moving parts, and a solid construction; the SKR-59 is almost impossible to break or malfunction. While the SKR-50 lacks automatic fire, it more then makes up for this liability with its high powered and accurate rounds. While the standard issue SKR-59 comes with basic iron sights, custom made SKR-59s have 6x zoom scopes added for sniping.

Why is it called SVT-50?

AVS= Automatic Rifle Simmonov
SVT= Self-loading Rifle Tokarev
SVD= Self Loading Rifle Druganov
SKS = Self-loading Karbine Simmonov

So wouldn't a self-loading carbine (it's a carbine, no sidestepping the issue) designed by "Vasili Ravenkov", and was designed in '59 be called the SKR-59?

And why a 10x scope when a 6 will do the same job cheaper and possably better in some cases? (a 10x40 scope would cost more than the rifle, for starters)

As for $70 rifle /w/ burst fire, wut?

Your soviet is also different than the M-43 standard spec 7.62x39 mm.

Why is it called SVT-50?

AVS= Automatic Rifle Simmonov
SVT= Self-loading Rifle Tokarev
SVD= Self Loading Rifle Druganov
SKS = Self-loading Karbine Simmonov

So wouldn't a self-loading carbine (it's a carbine, no sidestepping the issue) designed by "Vasili Ravenkov", and was designed in '59 be called the SKR-59?

OOC: I've never thought of that! I'll change it right away. As much as I know about Soviet firearms, I have never noticed that trend.

The $70 dollar version is the "budget" version with only semi-automatic fire. As for the round, I made a mistake when typing.

OOC: How come weapons that I make personally, sell less then RL weapons sold by half of the storefronts. It's really annoying when custom made weapons are cast aside so n00b retards can buy their AK-47s.:mad:

Partially because I certainly wouldn't buy something from someone who takes people's pictures without permission (You're lucky Cazelia let you off, I wouldn't have and nor would many people I know), partially because of an utter lack of anything significantly original, partly because this is far less than outstanding, and partly because of posts like the one you've just made. And you will not get '800+ metres' with this rifle, firing an intermediate round. As for your comment on Kalashnikovs, the reason people will buy them is because they are better and proven to be so. Your claim on being able to accurately hit targets from kilometres away is laughably untrue.
As a side-note, I also wouldn't buy something with such a short writeup.

OOC: How come weapons that I make personally, sell less then RL weapons sold by half of the storefronts. It's really annoying when custom made weapons are cast aside so n00b retards can buy their AK-47s.:mad:

OOC: I have to agree with you there. Why do storefronts even sell RL weapons and equipment? It makes no sense, and pisses me off because you shouldn't be selling RL crap in the first place!

The Phoenix Milita will buy 3 for testing. (one of each version, please)
We are looking for a cheap weapon to be issued en masse to the populous.

I'm rather new to RP in NS, but I have participated in many other types of RP. But as someone who works on firearms in rl, I would say some of your stats might need to be adjusted. As with everything in life, I'm not going to criticize something unless I have a suggestion or solution for how to fix it.

1) The 7.62x39mm round: whether you're talking about the M43, M67, or any commercially loaded "ball" ammunition, it has an aerodynamics problem. It destabilizes significantly by 350 yards even when fired from the best of rifles. At best, you can get 1" groups at 100 yards if you fire it from one of the bolt-action CZ rifles, but the MOA rating drops sharply the further away you get. In it's current form, it still wouldn't be a bad round for urban sniping in a rifle like the one you described, as that usually occurs under 200 yards.

Fixes: A) Have your round be different from the traditional 7.62x39mm, such as a larger casing, slightly smaller bore [Soviet mfg. is bored at .311, while American such as Winchester is bored at .308, you could go slightly smaller], etc. B) Chamber it for a different caliber. If you want to stick with a Soviet theme there's the 7.62x54R which quality ammo and the right rifle can achieve 1" MOA at 1000 yards. Theres also the ever-popular 7.62x51 NATO (.308), and .30-06.

2) Price: I have to agree $70 USD is a bit broken. However, if mass-produced and using mediocre materials and quality control, the $120 mark is achievable for the design you posted. I think a competition grade model should probably cost at least $500 if not more.

3) Range: If you want to reliably hit something beyond 1000 yards, you need to move up to a whole new caliber, such as the .50 BMG or the new .416 Barrett.

If you want to talk more gun stuff with me, feel free to send me a telegram in-game (Katonazag), as I don't get into the forums here very much.

OOC: I have to agree with you there. Why do storefronts even sell RL weapons and equipment? It makes no sense, and pisses me off because you shouldn't be selling RL crap in the first place!

I think that commonly available, unclassified military hardware should be available for such use. Nations are always ripping off other people's designs, and if the item is easily available in the free market, I'd say it's fair game. I think it would be godmodeing though to say you can produce F-22s, LHX Commanche helicopter, or something like that. An AK-47 can and has been copied all over the world, usually by legitimate license, but not always.

i'm Rather New To Rp In Ns, But I Have Participated In Many Other Types Of Rp. But As Someone Who Works On Firearms In Rl, I Would Say Some Of Your Stats Might Need To Be Adjusted. As With Everything In Life, I'm Not Going To Criticize Something Unless I Have A Suggestion Or Solution For How To Fix It.

1) The 7.62x39mm Round: Whether You're Talking About The M43, M67, Or Any Commercially Loaded "ball" Ammunition, It Has An Aerodynamics Problem. It Destabilizes Significantly By 350 Yards Even When Fired From The Best Of Rifles. At Best, You Can Get 1" Groups At 100 Yards If You Fire It From One Of The Bolt-action Cz Rifles, But The Moa Rating Drops Sharply The Further Away You Get. In It's Current Form, It Still Wouldn't Be A Bad Round For Urban Sniping In A Rifle Like The One You Described, As That Usually Occurs Under 200 Yards.
i Was Going To Post The Same Thing But Decided To Buy The Rifles, Test Them, And Report That Problem
Fixes: A) Have Your Round Be Different From The Traditional 7.62x39mm, Such As A Larger Casing, Slightly Smaller Bore [soviet Mfg. Is Bored At .311, While American Such As Winchester Is Bored At .308, You Could Go Slightly Smaller], Etc. B) Chamber It For A Different Caliber. If You Want To Stick With A Soviet Theme There's The 7.62x54r Which Quality Ammo And The Right Rifle Can Achieve 1" Moa At 1000 Yards. Theres Also The Ever-popular 7.62x51 Nato (.308), And .30-06.

2) Price: I Have To Agree $70 Usd Is A Bit Broken. However, If Mass-produced And Using Mediocre Materials And Quality Control, The $120 Mark Is Achievable For The Design You Posted. I Think A Competition Grade Model Should Probably Cost At Least $500 If Not More.
70$ Is A Fair Price For Something Like This In The Ns Economy, Which Is Markedly Different From The Real World.the Profit Is Still Slim, But Its Not Even Close To Outrageously Low.

3) Range: If You Want To Reliably Hit Something Beyond 1000 Yards, You Need To Move Up To A Whole New Caliber, Such As The .50 Bmg Or The New .416 Barrett.
well Lets Not Get Ahead Of Ourselves, He Only Wanted 800 Meters. Also There Are Several Smaller Rounds Capable Of That. You Also Need To Have The Right Platform To Go With It, There Is No "magic Bullet", Pardon The Pun.

If You Want To Talk More Gun Stuff With Me, Feel Free To Send Me A Telegram In-game (katonazag), As I Don't Get Into The Forums Here Very Much.
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Why didn't you take this to the NSD?

Volzgrad is very Anti-NS Draftroom.

M.A.C Heavy Industries wishes to purchase 18.900.000 SVT-50 H.P Premium Battle Rifles.

Funds shall be wired upon confirmation of order.

Thank you,

M.A.C Heavy Industries Management.

OOC: And your hating on me!? Most storefronts sell poor wikipedia articles or designs that are laughably crappy! The reason I absolutely hate the NS Draftroom is because everybody there are self-important bums who think they are "all mighty" because they are hiding behind a monitor. Everybody in the Draftroom and Lineart could piss off and not bother with me!

Also, I really think that write up size doesn't matter when your buying something. Unlike most Draftroomers, I actually have something resembling a life. I simply cannot find the time to write a "life-storyesque" write up. As a side note, the only reason I ever went to the mud puddle that is the Draftroom is because I needed a place to store some links. I, on this day, announce that I will never expose myself to the unadulterated evil that is the NS Draftroom. Sooner would I put my head in a blender than go over to NSD, frankly because NSD would be more painfully annoying.




From: Ravenkov Military Industries
To: The Phoenix Militia

We thank you for you purchase. The three rifles should arrive within 3 days (depending on distance and shipping).

To: MAC Heavy Industries
From: Ravenkov Military Industries

Your order has been confirmed and agreed. Your shipment of rifles should arrive within the week.

Am I? I use NSD quite often for airship designs, and share your sentiments about certain users. As for this rifle, I can make a fair few points about it.

- Why use a red-dot sight on something as large as this? Special forces would use a much smaller weapon than this, unless in a sniper role (when a scope would be used).

- Have you ever tried shooting a semi-automatic rifle? I doubt anyone could get off the number of rounds you stick in as the firing rate: 600 rpm is equivalent to 10 rounds a second. 6 rounds a second is an absolute maximum by my reckoning, and that's if you aren't bothering to aim. I haven't used a burst-fire weapon before, but when you fire a burst the number of rounds shot off are in very quick succession: at least 1200 rounds a minute.
I know rpms are very complicated in this sense, but don't take disheart. I'd recommend having it as two seperate fire rates depending on mode, or as just the burst fire speed.

- I agree with Katonazag with the round issues in regards to range, though see you've changed that. I do hasten to add though that you forgot the .338 Lapua Super Magnum (though I only know that since I'm in the British Army Cadets). Though 7.62mm NATO is adequate enough for most anti-infantry operations. I wish people would stop waving about .50cal BMGs as the ultimate sniper weapon because they ain't intended for that: they are designated as anti-material weapons, for taking out vehicles and the like. A 7.62mm NATO in most circumstances can be used instead of the .50cal, with a similar level of lethality if used by a trained sniper.


The NSD exists as a location for you to check out these designs: even if there are some smug, pretentious, arrogant bastards lurking there, they do help with weeding out the bad points that exist in a design like this, leaving a much better design.

Am I? I use NSD quite often for airship designs, and share your sentiments about certain users. As for this rifle, I can make a fair few points about it.

- Why use a red-dot sight on something as large as this? Special forces would use a much smaller weapon than this, unless in a sniper role (when a scope would be used).

- Have you ever tried shooting a semi-automatic rifle? I doubt anyone could get off the number of rounds you stick in as the firing rate: 600 rpm is equivalent to 10 rounds a second. 6 rounds a second is an absolute maximum by my reckoning, and that's if you aren't bothering to aim. I haven't used a burst-fire weapon before, but when you fire a burst the number of rounds shot off are in very quick succession: at least 1200 rounds a minute.
I know rpms are very complicated in this sense, but don't take disheart. I'd recommend having it as two seperate fire rates depending on mode, or as just the burst fire speed.

- I agree with Katonazag with the round issues in regards to range, though see you've changed that. I do hasten to add though that you forgot the .338 Lapua Super Magnum (though I only know that since I'm in the British Army Cadets). Though 7.62mm NATO is adequate enough for most anti-infantry operations. I wish people would stop waving about .50cal BMGs as the ultimate sniper weapon because they ain't intended for that: they are designated as anti-material weapons, for taking out vehicles and the like. A 7.62mm NATO in most circumstances can be used instead of the .50cal, with a similar level of lethality if used by a trained sniper.


The NSD exists as a location for you to check out these designs: even if there are some smug, pretentious, arrogant bastards lurking there, they do help with weeding out the bad points that exist in a design like this, leaving a much better design.

OOC: Your good Alfegos. In fact, your probably one of the few people in the NSD who isn't awful.

please don't forget the huge difference between cyclic and sustained rate of fire
and the .300 Winchester Magnum

That's what I was saying about. Thanks for the terminology corrections...
But let's leave the calibres out this, shall we?

OOC: How come weapons that I make personally, sell less then RL weapons sold by half of the storefronts. It's really annoying when custom made weapons are cast aside so n00b retards can buy their AK-47s.:mad:

OOC: Finally, a storefront that doesn't rip things off of wikipedia. Does anybody else know of any others like this? I hate opening a storefront, only to find that every freaking piece of equipment is just a link to a wikipedia article, and then some price picked off of google. Lyrans Arms also had a good storefront with hand-drawn stuff. I don't know why people praise Wiki-storefronts so much when they take 2 seconds to make. You have my praise for drawing the gun, since I know what a pain in the arse it is.

IC: We in the nation of Dashie would like to purchase a quantity of 100,000 Premium rifles. This should come to a cost of $25,000,000 ($25 million).

OOC: Does the premium signify a special mod? You don't have to RP what it is if you don't want, but I would assume that it has special add-ons.

OOC: Thanks for the compliment. It always annoys me when a "storefront" is really just a collection of wikipedia articles. As for the question, the Premium version is "modern"; it's made of plastics and composite materials instead of just wood and steel.

IC:

We thank the nation of Dashie for their order. The money has been received and your shipment is on its way. Expect to receive the rifles within the week.

Volzgrad is very Anti-NS Draftroom.
Wut?
OOC: And your hating on me!? Most storefronts sell poor wikipedia articles or designs that are laughably crappy! The reason I absolutely hate the NS Draftroom is because everybody there are self-important bums who think they are "all mighty" because they are hiding behind a monitor. Everybody in the Draftroom and Lineart could piss off and not bother with me!
Blasphemy!
Underlined bit seems to be pot vs kettle namecalling, when considering the quality/effort put into the recent design in question (You took an "improved copy" of the Chinese Type 63 (http://world.guns.ru/assault/as48-e.htm) and slapped on a russian-sounding designation without learning their namenculture, and now I catch you upping the cartidge w/o changing anything else*).

Well, except for the bit on RL-wiki post/product=newthread based "storefronts".

And as for NSD feeling all "almighty" about themselves, that sounds like V10's propoganda to me. Since everyone on NS is hiding behind a monitor and screen-name, except for Logan-And-Kye, that username speaks for itself.

No, I'm not almighty, I'm just good at pointing out flaws and finding problems, and will continue to do so to the best of my ability in hopes that others learn from their mistakes and improve. And no, I don't limit that kind of behavior to NS.

*Went from "7.62x34 Volzgradian (Soviet)" which you said was a typo, intended to be 7.62x39 mm M43 Soviet, and now it be 7.62x54Rimmed, still with a double-stack, which'll get fugly when the chips are down.

OOC: You have my praise for drawing the gun, since I know what a pain in the arse it is.

OOC: Actually, I drew the original G1 rifle, and then let Volz use it.

OOC: Screw this, I'm officially out of the weapon designing business. As of this moment, NO Volzgradien equipment or designs may be sold or used in any matter without my SPECIFIC permission.

As a side note, I have never heard of the Chinese Type 63. I actually based my weapon of *shocking gasp* AN UPGRADED SVT-40!!!!!!!!!!!!

OOC: Don't feel bad. You're up against people who have been designing fictional weapons for 3+ years now. It takes time to go from a simple stat-block to a 10,000 word document complete with diagrams.

OOC: Screw this, I'm officially out of the weapon designing business. As of this moment, NO Volzgradien equipment or designs may be sold or used in any matter without my SPECIFIC permission.

As a side note, I have never heard of the Chinese Type 63. I actually based my weapon of *shocking gasp* AN UPGRADED SVT-40!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, and with an AK's rotating bolt long-stroke gas system dropped in place.

SVT's tilting bolt was borrowed from that of the AVS, which is pretty much the same one in the SKS.
And a Type 63 is essentially an AK in SKS packaging.

In short, you think like chinaman from 1963, and that's why this gun isn't selling too well, because even the Chinese went on and fielded better stuff IRL.

Yeah, I ran into many similar brick walls like that... Design one thing, only to find out some designer with a hack-assed marketing team built pretty much the exact same thing 40 years ago.

But then again, it took those countries teams of men years to design them (even just the concept, the M14 wasn't on the drawing boards immediately after the M1 Garand, and niether was the Type 81 that replaced the 56/63 models). So I'd say you're doing a pretty good job of "catching up with the times" for your age.

The "new" cartridge would make your "carbine" back into a full-fledged rifle on par with the Drugannov (rotating > tilting bolt), and I CBA to figure out how you're going to keep costs down on those.

BTW, for future refferance, a burst fire setting generally requires more parts than full-auto.

OOC: How come weapons that I make personally, sell less then RL weapons sold by half of the storefronts. It's really annoying when custom made weapons are cast aside so n00b retards can buy their AK-47s.
OOC: Finally, a storefront that doesn't rip things off of wikipedia. Does anybody else know of any others like this? I hate opening a storefront, only to find that every freaking piece of equipment is just a link to a wikipedia article, and then some price picked off of google. Lyrans Arms also had a good storefront with hand-drawn stuff. I don't know why people praise Wiki-storefronts so much when they take 2 seconds to make. You have my praise for drawing the gun, since I know what a pain in the arse it is.

I make all my own shit.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555788

It always annoys me when a "storefront" is really just a collection of wikipedia articles.
Stop repeating yourself. We heard you the first, second and third time. I do agree with you, though. Idiots like Canedian Army make storefronts that are so fucking fail it's unreal. Really pisses me off when I take the time to make nice statblocks and *paragraphs* of writeups (also agree with you on the whole thousand-page-writeup fail) and these wiki faggots don't have to do a damn thing to illustrate their stuff.

IMO, you just RP yourself RL tech. No need to buy it from a storefront.

Oh and seriously, shut the fuck up about Lineartinc and draftroom etc. because it's boring. :3

I make all my own shit.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555788


Stop repeating yourself. We heard you the first, second and third time. I do agree with you, though. Idiots like Canedian Army make storefronts that are so fucking fail it's unreal. Really pisses me off when I take the time to make nice statblocks and *paragraphs* of writeups (also agree with you on the whole thousand-page-writeup fail) and these wiki faggots don't have to do a damn thing to illustrate their stuff.

IMO, you just RP yourself RL tech. No need to buy it from a storefront.

Oh and seriously, shut the fuck up about Lineartinc and draftroom etc. because it's boring. :3

OOC: I can't decide whether to agree or badmouth you. It's weird because you agree AND scold me so I'm really having trouble working this out.

Unlike most Draftroomers, I actually have something resembling a life.

So your life is so awesome you get massively trolled when somebody criticises your make-believe rifle?

Ceorouon requests ten for testing, and request 100,000 if we deem the tests succesful. Expect results by September.


Prime Minister J. Peterson.
10/8/08.

M.A.C Heavy Industries wishes to purchase another 5.000.000 SVT-50 H.P Premium Battle Rifles.

Funds shall be wired upon confirmation of order.

Thank you,

M.A.C Heavy Industries Management.

OOC: And your hating on me!? Most storefronts sell poor wikipedia articles or designs that are laughably crappy! The reason I absolutely hate the NS Draftroom is because everybody there are self-important bums who think they are "all mighty" because they are hiding behind a monitor. Everybody in the Draftroom and Lineart could piss off and not bother with me!

Also, I really think that write up size doesn't matter when your buying something. Unlike most Draftroomers, I actually have something resembling a life. I simply cannot find the time to write a "life-storyesque" write up. As a side note, the only reason I ever went to the mud puddle that is the Draftroom is because I needed a place to store some links. I, on this day, announce that I will never expose myself to the unadulterated evil that is the NS Draftroom. Sooner would I put my head in a blender than go over to NSD, frankly because NSD would be more painfully annoying.

Well. Not only have you trolled, you've annoyed a hell of a lot of people who will forever rendered you on their enemies list, not the least me. The NS Draftroom is a good place for intelligent people to go to debate and critique each other's designs. Not only do we have lives, (A strange claim to make, because when I looked at your photobucket for further ripoffs of the G1, I found you spend all your time taking photos you've found and making up mildly annoying by-lines for them), we also are more sophisticated and have a wider vocabulary than someone who bawls 'it's not fair' because their rifle didn't sell and they can't take advice from superior designers.

This merely illustrates that you refuse to take advice from people superior to you. Just sit back and listen to yourself. No-one from there will buy your products and a lot of people hold grudges. You've just gained some enemies because you refuse to take advice from anyone. Look at the response you got on Linc. Look at how much better everyone that went to the NSD is compared to your design and it's art ripoff. Really, this is newbie nonsense just because you seem to be ignorant to the fact that you are no better than the others here.

MEEP MEEP here comes the wahhhhhhhhhhjeep

Phonenix & Alfegos, I think we'll have to agree to disagree about the price. :p But in the description it says it can hit targets kilometers away, hence my suggestion at .50 BMG or .416 Barrett. And yes, there are others out there, I just like those more. I also agree it's the total picture - the man, the munition, and the machine. ;)


- Have you ever tried shooting a semi-automatic rifle? I doubt anyone could get off the number of rounds you stick in as the firing rate: 600 rpm is equivalent to 10 rounds a second. 6 rounds a second is an absolute maximum by my reckoning, and that's if you aren't bothering to aim. I haven't used a burst-fire weapon before, but when you fire a burst the number of rounds shot off are in very quick succession: at least 1200 rounds a minute.
I know rpms are very complicated in this sense, but don't take disheart. I'd recommend having it as two seperate fire rates depending on mode, or as just the burst fire speed.

I think what he posted is achievable through a properly tuned gas system, however, from a rifle that cost $70 to manufacture, it will probably overheat and become a "bad day" for the operator. I agree that full auto is impractical in anti-personnel weapons except for those that were designed to be a support weapon or point-blank SMG.

Canedian army is willing to buy 1000. The design is good for me, and RL stuff are good.
Why shoud you not sell it?
As the canedian army is attacked in the topic:
Oparation chatham, i want them as fast as possible.
Name a price, and if i like them, i will buy more.

OOC: I can't decide whether to agree or badmouth you. It's weird because you agree AND scold me so I'm really having trouble working this out.
I agree with you on most of what you're saying, except the whiny bullshit about NSD and Linc.

M.A.C Heavy Industries wishes to purchase another 5.000.000 SVT-50 H.P Premium Battle Rifles.

Funds shall be wired upon confirmation of order.

Thank you,

M.A.C Heavy Industries Management.

Order Cancelled.

Thank you,

M.A.C Management.

After a better think i order 1 million of these weapons. I think they are good, and i want them for my army.

The Holy Empire of Anemos Major wishes to purchase 600 premium-type rifles, which amounts to 150,000 NSD. This is to be sent to the Kingdom of Mayaqoo. Payment will be wired after confirmation of order.

Oh Lawl.

OOC: Cheap, unreliable guns as a gift to another nation. It works, and if they try to invade me...