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Joint Lyras-TPF Official Statement

The great nation of Lyras and TPF are very displeased by the recent invasion of Lord Sumguy by LION forces. As such, we have began to deploy forces in order to support The Hegemony and repel their forces from sovereign territory. LION has 24 hours to announce a cease-fire and begin to formally withdraw their forces from Hegemony sovereign territory. Lyras and TPF strongly urge that LION nations seriously look at this proposal and agree to its conditions before the full might of the war machine is brought against LION.

damn character limits/tag

OOC: Tag as well. Expect IC post soon.

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~Official Communique~
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The Cazelian government is in full support of this ultimatum. If the LION does not back down, our forces in Lord Sumguy will be authorized to leave their positions to attack your men. So unless you wish to feel the iron boot of the Cazelian military pressed against your throat, you will withdraw your forces from Lord Sumguy, halt your attack against the Hegemony and go hide in a corner where you belong. After that, TPF and Lyras will decide what will happen to you.

Sincerely,
Ingram Hasley
~President

OOC:Tag for IC post shortly.

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OFFICIAL NOTICE

Asgarnian forces WILL NOT be leaving the Lord Sumguy Operations Theater, as they will be participating in peacekeeping operations throughout the nation. Asgarnieu will fully co-operate with all Lyran forces encountered, and makes no plans to participate in or plan any offensive operations.

That is all.

OOC: Wait, the invasion started? WHERE?!

PS: TPF, I have declared support for LION.

PS: TPF, I have declared support for LION.

Then the ultimatum applies to Red Tide. You were no longer an ally of TPF once you began slaughtering Christians in your own nation.

OOC I believe LION does have ships off the coast, or at least nearby and, those could certainly use some withdrawing. I'll get on LS' back about starting despite the poor turn out, this needs to be done. Sorry is any of this is impertinant now; wrote it before the OOC banter

IC


Open Statement: His Most Gracious Imperial Majesty Wyatt von Waldenburg IV

Though there has been no official report we are quite assured by delegates of both warring governments that a de facto ceasefire is in effect (Or at least an OOC pause at the moment.) Peace talks are already underway at an undisclosed location, and promise to be productive. His Excellency the Hegemon is in attendance along with several LION executive members. Though we must note Waldenburg cannot, and has no right to by meager association or otherwise, to speak on behalf of LION we must, Waldenburg that is, at this point scoff at your ultimatum. Peace naturally is a more benign outcome, and indeed the purpose of all our of efforts, there shall be no hesitation on our part to dismantle the old for the aggrandizement of the new.

If there is no common ground between ideals, if there is no suitable base of comparison between the purpose and the goal then there is always social progression. The autocratic and now internally discomforted Hegemony must be taken apart, and though His Majesty and the Holy Church prefer the peaceful option at all times, we will not stand by the attacks and general hostility against our allies and by extension their allies. Withdraw your ultimatum sir, it is of no use, not against the Empire itself or other forces at work.

Though I would be loathed to order forces to strike against Lyran forces, if the need be in the defense of the Empire and her interests then naturally it shall be so. If this ultimatum, and indeed the incursion of Imperial property by other Pro Hegemonic forces does not cease then the Empire shall have no other course of action to fully declared our support for LION and add our own forces to the coalition now ready off her shores. It is not a future I readily look forward to, but we shall not be dissuaded. For the moment we may pray from diplomacy, and a general lowering of arms, but should these threats continue; the course is laid. Measures to determine a peace are currently in effect, and we believe will end productively.

Signed:
His Most gracious Imperial Majesty Wyatt von Waldenburg IV

OOC: What you just said is what I've been trying to get to since you first posted this.

OOC: Because I didn't know they weren't deployed. Caz says you are, so its confusing. If you were on AIM, we could have done without the ooc banter. I am deleting all the posts, except for this one, I suggest you do the same.

TO: All combatant and non-combatant states party to the LION-Hegemony conflict
FROM: Office of the Warmarshal of the Protectorate

Throughout history, war has been a staple. Not a single year has passed where man did not war against his neighbour. It is the equal oldest human institution, and it, today as then, brings out elements of the best and worst that humanity has to offer.
We do not intend to convey this as a proclamation of support for warfare in concept, but nor do we wish to proclaim our blithe and naive unwillingness to accept its existence.

We hearby announce our intention to remove the spectre of war from the territories of our allies. We do so by our presence, and the presence of that which we represent. Lyran forces are moving to intersperse themselves between combatant parties. Our movements and conduct will be, as you would all expect, orderly and courteous, but we shall not be denied.

No offensive operations are going to be conducted in theatres into which Lyran forces deploy, at this stage, though the capability will most certainly exist. We are not the United Nations, nor are we the World Assembly, and forceful response will be met in appropriate kind.

It is our sincere hope that our presence will assist the re-establishment of peace. Be certain of our resolve, however, and we urge all who read this to abstain from making the mistake of confusing our benign intentions from an absence of capability. We shall not see those who we have called "ally", and with whom we have shed blood, come into subjugation.

In all honour, we stand undaunted.

To all and without rancor

Leon Krell
Warmarshal of the Protectorate
Bredubar
Protectorate of Lyras

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|Official Diplomatic Communique of the Promethian Republic of Faxanavia|

Dear sirs,
Your actions, I must admit, surprise me. I have always taken the state of TPF as a sensible, reasonable state. I fail to see why you would see it in your duty, or your right, to intervene in our actions against the unstable and dangerous Hegemony. Your ultimatum of today is one which goes against reason, and against the goals of an alliance seeking to exterminate the Hegemony as an entity. I must say, I, like all Faxanavians, hold nothing but the very highest respect for the nation of Lyras- she is one who has influenced us since Faxanavia's step onto the international stage; we were even once her protectorate. However, times change, and we must change with them. We will not give into your ultimatum, but we do not wish war, either. There is currently being held, in the state of Waldenburg, a peace conference between LION nations, sponsored by the Waldenburgers. On behalf of the League, I beseech you to realize that we do not wish war with you, and we wish to end war that we are currently in- sometimes, one's goals can only be met through violence. We shall not give into your ultimatum, and we hope that you shal see your mistake. If not, I wish you luck in your venture- you shall need it.

Respectfully yours,
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Garret Linsares
Prime Minister of the Promethian Republic of Faxanavia and her Associated Territories, President of the League of Imperial Ocean-faring Nations

Official Clandonian Response
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Open Declaration:

His Majesty's Government strongly warns to the government of TPF that if their ultimation is acted upon then the Crown will call upon her own military might to defend our allies and friends of the League of Imperial Ocean-faring Nations. The Clandonian Royal Navy roam freely in the seaways of Haven and our allies from the Royal Georgian League border the homeland of The Peoples Freedom. If TPF wishes to make war then war will be made upon your homeland, the war will be brought right home to the women, children and elderly of TPF.


God Save the King


Prime Minister Sir David Sistilin

[OOC: Tag. I'm an outsider and unless you want more nations I won't participate. I'll watch this, though - looks interesting. May you all have fun killing each other]

OOC: What Antigr said in his post

OOC: So about those peace talks I was going to host....

Communiqué to relevant international leaders
Although the Golden Throne does not expressly support the intentions of The People's Freedom and Lyras, at least in regards to the declaration of war on other nations in the interest of 'defending Christianity', the Second Empire will not hesitate to defend its allies under the terms of the Fedala Accord (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=554863). Specifically, article II, "Member nations agree, by decision of entry, to protect defensively established trade routes between member nations to avoid the disruption of healthy interchange of goods." Any threat to The People's Freedom's homeland or nearby waters is a threat to Fedala Accord merchant routes, as is any threat to said nation's sovereignty. This information is also relevant in regards to Lyras, which is also a member of the Fedala Accord (this loyalty would apply to any Fedala Accord member). Although we are not looking to bully any other nation, we are looking to making our obligations and intentions clear to avoid future confusion or international anger. Any invasion of The People's Freedom, as has been threatened, will be responded to swiftly and without any type of impediment - we guarantee that the war will not be advantageous to the belligerent.

However, we also believe that it is within the best interests of all parties to seek a peaceful resolution to the issue at hand. Obviously, a conflict would not lead to a solution which would offer overwhelming positive results. We believe that a peaceful end in fact will. Although the Golden Throne is not seeking to involve itself in this conflict's politics, unless forced to do so, we are proposing peace talks between the relevant national leaders, in an attempt to avoid the bloody quagmire which would come otherwise. However, as aforementioned, we will not get involved - we are simply offering ideas.

We will also make clear that the fleet sailing from the Empire's mainland, located in Greater Dienstad, is not making the 40,000 nautical mile trip to The People's Freedom as a result of the threats which have been tossed around due to this conflict of politics. It is entirely a Fedala Accord matter, and the fleet's data (fleet configuration; i.e. what ships there are in it - ca. 600 total) is open. Please, do not mistake this fleet as a threat, although it will intervene in the defense of Fedala Accord trade routes, as has been previously stated. However, due to the threats which have been thrown around, we are also preparing a second fleet of a similar amount of ships - whose contents will not be divulged to national leadership in the interests of fleet security (this is a belligerent fleet). This fleet will also contain ground forces personnel. Although not large, this should be taken as proof of our intent to defend our allies.

We wish to advise the nation of Clandonia Prime that it is no position to threaten any nation, given that it itself has only survived due to the backing of its government by Praetonian forces. Clandonian meddling in the sovereignty of The People's Freedom will not be tolerated, and we will guarantee that Clandonian forces will not prevail in the conflict. We further advise that suggestions of impending genocide be avoided, as that can just as quickly turn true for those who foresaw it.

[signed]His Imperial Majesty Fedor I

TO: ALL PARTIES WISHING TO ACHIEVE PEACE
FROM: PRESIDENT NICOLAS VILLA

I invite all parties to the Presidential palace in Mokastana City for peace talks before this war goes on further. Since peace talks were going to occur earlier I feel that this turn of events only makes it more urgent to meet.

Thank you,

President Nicolas Villa

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Office of Telegraphics
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New Misenae


Dearie, dearie me. I take a long weekend and what do I find sat prominently on my desk upon my return? An "ultimatum" from The People's Freedom - hardly the most renowned of nations when it comes to liberty and freedom, despite the name - and the nation of Lyras - which, rather than angering us, merely serves to disappoint.

I daresay it would be prudent, along with a short final statement from my colleague, the Lord Commissioner, to address each nation in turn.

To The People's Freedom:

Is it not correct that your administration has a colony - and a rather sizeable one at that - in Greal? Have you not, therefore, committed exactly the same as we are allegedly intending? Our intentions are far more honourable than yours, we have no doubt - rather than a landgrab, this is a liberation - the Hegemony, as many have seen, cannot keep it's own house in order, let alone that of other nations it decides are too oppressive by whatever bizarre and, oddly, autocratic measurement system it uses these days.

What the League is doing is ending this autocratic and self-oppressive "order" of nations, freeing it's people from oppression and expressing the true freedom that comes with capitalism and the third way. The fact that you would take on an alliance in what appears to be a paranoid attempt to secure a colony we have no intention of attacking is both confusing and laughable at the same time.

To our Allies in Lyras:

Our confusion is meted somewhat by disappointment that you would turn on those you deemed honourable and worthy of an alliance with your great nation. Surely you, as honourable people of steadfastness and foresight, can see that the population under the Hegemony is forced by an autocratic alliance into wars against their own brethren by ineffective and downright dangerous policies that mean the alliance fights amongst itself more than it does it's adversaries?

We stand firm in stating that we have no intention to attack Lyran troops; indeed, they will be warmly welcomed by our own soldiers, who will make every effort to ensure they are safely housed and fed if met on the battlefield, and treated as true honourable men. We fight for the same cause - the liberation of peoples, and the return to honour in the acts of nations - this cannot ever be made a reality whilst the Hegemony exists.

To the "nation" of Cazelia:

Do carry on. Most amusing. Iron boots, is it? You will soon know what they feel like before long. We are, unfortunately, dismayed that you do not remember from the last time we pressed them to your scrawny throats.

To the nation of Mokastana:

We will be prepared to send an ambassador to the meeting. Louis B. Ireland-Lister is being briefed in preparation for the conference.

To the Administration under the Golden Throne:

We can categorically state that Fedala Accord shipping will not be hindered by our actions. We have nothing but respect for the alliance of nations that forms the Accord, and will take all reasonable steps to avoid conflict - our closest ally, Vetaka, is indeed a member of this great alliance, and our desire to be brought into conflict with them is, of course, non-existant.

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Statement from Lord Commissioner Nigel Harvey

As duly-appointed Foreign Secretary for the League, we request that the ultimatum deadline be postponed until the conclusion of Waldenburg-LION-Hegemony peace talks. It would be improper not to reserve judgement until that point.

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Yours,

Amelie Carpentier-St Claire
Magisteriate of Extra-Imperial Affairs

and

Nigel Harvey
Lord Commissioner for LION-Barronian Affairs

]State Department Communication
According to our sources inside the nation of Lord Sumguy, it appear that no "negotiations" have indeed taken place. Rather, it appears as if the Hegemon has been taken hostage. For all we know, any peace agreement that comes out of these 'talks' could be non-binding, as the government of LS likely signed such an accord out of distress. As such, the ultimatum still stands until a new peace summit is agreed upon or LION renounces their war of agression.

Official Communique of the Confederacy of Kenavt
Diplomatic Dispatch
Re: Pan-Arab Barronia Response to Ultimatum

Dear All Nations Concerned;

As a fairly small nation, the Confederacy of Kenavt has yet to respond to the current League of Imperial-Ocean Faring Nations-Hegemony conflict, although being a former member of the Hegemony and a current member of "LION". Also, several major issues within the Confederacy itself came up in the process, including several military firings at high positions.

However, all issues have now been resolved, and Kenavt looked forward to joining the LION-Hegemony conflict. However, an ultimatum by the great nations of Lyra and ThePeoplesFreedom toward the Hegemony and LION at war soured the experience.

As the Joint Secretary of Foreign Affairs, I officially endorse my fellow Secretary Lord Commissioner Nigel Harvey's actions. I hope the rest of LION does the same, and that Lyras and ThePeoplesFreedom remove their silly ultimatum.

If the proposed Mokastana peace talks ever get off the ground, expect to see me there in person.

Duke Andrew da Vincho
Premier
Joint Secretary of Foreign Affairs; League of Imperial Ocean-Faring Nations

Official Grestonian Communique

To: TPFian Political Leader
CC: Warmarshal Leon Krell of Lyras, President Ingram Hasley, His Excellency His Imperial Majesty Fedor I of The Golden Throne, President Nicolas Villa of Mokastana
From: President and Imperial Parliamentarian The Rt. Hon. Sir Jerry Striker
Subject: Open Declaration

Dear Whom it May Concern,

I am vexed on what to say, there is such a variety of groups to give a response and all have such different oppinions. Instead of delivering a standard issue lie and sentences on and on that in the end say nothing I shall respond to each group separately.

Dear TPFian Political Leader,

Please carry on, you are really making me laugh. I have heard such great humour in ages! The funniest part was when you tried to throw your weight around and accuse us of less than honourable actions. Tell me, sir, who rights your ultimatums for you, your three year old nephew? Past administrations of Greston have not been kind as myself but despite that, when angered, none of the past Grestonian administrations can halfway match the damage I can cause. So I kindly state, take you juvenile "ultimatum" and wipe your pompous ass with it.

Dear Warmarshal Leon Krell of Lyras,

I have always acknowledged the nation of Lyras to be an honourable, respectable nation with a civilized governemnt. But I think my mind has been changed aftering hearing tell that you are allied with such diseased rodents as the hypocrits in ThePeoplesFreedoms. If our men are to cross paths with each other in battle no guns shall be raised, rather they will take you in and greet you, because I doubt that you have the amount of evil in you as TPFian soldiers do to shoot upon liberators. You may shoot, we shall only turn the other cheek. A friend to Barronia is a friend to Greston and we cannot kill our allies men.

Dear President Ingram Hasley of Cazelia,

So it takes two large nations to stand up and start throwing around threats for you to be secure enough to threaten LION? You disgust me, I want to see you try to raise your "iron boots", your are to pathetic and scrawny to be able to lift such weight. You mention military might; before long you will know how that feels when it is tearing your nation apart.

Dear President Nicolas Villa of Mokastana,

I am delighted that at least some Hegemony nations are civilized enough to see how useless this bloodshed is to open peacetalks. I am extremely sorry that I cannot attend such a meeting myself but I assure you that a delegation from Greston will be there.

From,
President and Imperial Parliamentarian The Rt. Hon. Sir Jerry Striker

peace talks here...

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