NationStates Jolt Archive


(Bio-Barometer) "Opinion on Non-Humans"

Biotopia
07-08-2008, 09:34
Opening the letter you find...

The Bio-Barometer Institute
30 Kallan St.
The Axan 4040
Biotopia

Dear Nation

The Bio-Barometer is a periodic poll conducted to gauge popular international sentiment on various issues and current affairs. The subject of this poll concerns the current position of non-humans and by extension non-human nations within the NS-verse. Since our last poll there have been numerous indications that suggest a rise in organised anti non-human movements. We encourage all participants to include comments and feedback and in particular would like to know what non-human nations (and their constituent species) have replied to this survey. Please take the time to complete this form and return it in the self-addressed envelope provided.

Regards,

J. V. Barry
Chair, Bio-Barometer International

PS: non-human nations and pro non-human nations are encouraged to click here. (we’d be interested in starting a pro non-human coalition if there’s enough interest so let us know).
Biotopia
07-08-2008, 09:39
ooc: i was formally a non-human nation but since being rebotted i've switched to being a human nation for simplicity in RP.

ic: Biotopia sustains the last known population of Phosee Sapiens and the even smaller last of the Hell Bovines but they're both entirely reclusive
Lynion
07-08-2008, 09:49
TO: J. V. Barry, Chair, Bio-Barometer International
FROM: Vamperial Kingdom of Lynion, High King Ranakin

We have sent back our survery with the result of us being non-human. We are a race of vampires and werewolves living together inside a Human Race. We intend to be isolated for the time being but racist marks against us won't be taken so kindly.
axmanland
07-08-2008, 10:57
communication from the desk of Artimus Bosch Minister For Morphine

The nation of Axmanland has not exactly been kind to its environment and this when combined with the vast quantities of harmful recreational pharmaceuticals the average citizen consumes, means that a small percentage of the population develop pronounced subhuman genetic deficiencies.

However these blighted individuals are still allowed to contribute to the good of society. After being sterilized they are sent to our happy forced labor camps to toil in the morphine refineries and serve out their miserable little lives happily working 18 hour shifts and glad to serve their most benevolent high king.
Biotopia
07-08-2008, 12:59
b-um-p
Conserative Morality
07-08-2008, 15:14
Official message from Conserative morality:
Although we do not currently have any non-humans residing in our area of influence, we have already guaranteed them rights according to article six, section two.

All sentient species encountered by the Moralite government must be treated as equals, as any human would, according to their citizenship status.

The Senate, the will of the people manifest in a government body.
Ralkovia
07-08-2008, 15:39
ooc: man I hate my computer, I thought I was pressing recognizes non-humans and rights, but my computer put doesn't recognize non-humans

Message from Ralkovia:
The official stance of the government on Non-humans is that they are recognized and have the same rights as any sentient species in our kingdom. However, we recognize
certain carniverous(eats other sentients) non-human species but oppress their rights and imprison them if they do eat any sentient species in Ralkovia.
Daistallia 2104
07-08-2008, 16:07
Atten: J. V. Barry, Chair, Bio-Barometer International
From: Jans Haek, Minister of Sentients Rights, Daistallia 2104

The population of Daistallia 2104 is, as you are most likely aware of, multi-speciated. The majority are baseline humans, but GMHus, and other species of non-human stock make up approximately 1/3 of the population. Any non-criminal sophont being is welcome to immigrate to Daistallia 2104. All resident sophonts may enjoy various rights, including citizenship.

You may be happy to hear that we also populations of Phosee Sapiens and Hell Bovines residing in Daistallia 2104, from when we were in Greefields.
Daistallia 2104
07-08-2008, 16:10
OOC: There's not a suitable option on the poll. We aren't majority human, so the non-human option doesn't fit. But we are certainly not all human, so the human options don't fit either. We are a mixed population. Oh, and if you were to look hard enough you might even find a small population of Sentient Bats. We may have the only population in existance.
Biotopia
07-08-2008, 16:20
oos: haha, oh i remember the sentient bats! Coincidentally this poll reminded me of Hell Bovines, i really miss him tonight. If you have a majority human population you'd best fall into the "Human nation that recognises non-humans..." category. There were other variable options i could have included but i wanted to keep things simple. Interesting that so far about 50% of all players don't recognise non-humans... I hope my compatriots are faring well! Oh and since you're about you should set up diplomatic representation in my new thread (see signature).
Greywatch
07-08-2008, 16:27
OOC: Is this referign specifically to MT or FT nations?
Daistallia 2104
07-08-2008, 16:33
oos: haha, oh i remember the sentient bats! Coincidentally this poll reminded me of Hell Bovines, i really miss him tonight. If you have a majority human population you'd best fall into the "Human nation that recognises non-humans..." category. There were other variable options i could have included but i wanted to keep things simple. Interesting that so far about 50% of all players don't recognise non-humans... I hope my compatriots are faring well! Oh and since you're about you should set up diplomatic representation in my new thread (see signature).

OOC: Indeed. I remember how my early days policy along the lines of "non-human" = "human in an odd costume" didn't sit to well with the Bats...

Me too.

Voted.

And since I'm RPing a bit more these days, I'll get to it in a bit. :wink:
Biotopia
07-08-2008, 16:41
OOC: Is this referign specifically to MT or FT nations?

To be honest i'd only been thinking of MT nations but it's a general poll open to all.
Biotopia
07-08-2008, 16:44
OOC: Indeed. I remember how my early days policy along the lines of "non-human" = "human in an odd costume" didn't sit to well with the Bats...

Me too.

Voted.

And since I'm RPing a bit more these days, I'll get to it in a bit. :wink:

Playing a nation in which the population is under the mass delusion/coerced into pretending to be non-human would be an interesting and unique creative feat in itself.
Greywatch
07-08-2008, 16:47
To be honest i'd only been thinking of MT nations but it's a general poll open to all.

I play both which is why I asked.
Hurtful Thoughts
07-08-2008, 17:05
Define "recognize".

Yeah, Hurtians will admit (if asked directly), that it is feasable that their pet dog was sentient, and if asked long and hard enough, they may even admit to sending the pet dog to haul rocks and tools in a coal-mine... A few may even admit to screwing around with some sheep...

Do they care if it thought? Hell no.

Same goes for hunting dodoes... Sure, they may be tricky, perhaps sentient, but nobody really cares, they taste good and are a challange and a half to hunt.

Killing Hell Bovines is fun too... Though I wouldn't call them "sentient".

And no, PETA doesn't exist, it was "forceably disbanded" at the muzzle of a smoking gun.
Belkaros
07-08-2008, 17:28
I think I speak for all of the AFA when I say YIFF IN HELL!

Unless you are Xiscapia, who is just too fun to RP with to hate.

Also, I voted for the wrong option.
Punckeds
07-08-2008, 17:29
Sentient is sentient. We must fight for freedom of all!! For non-human too but my nation didn't contact with any non-humans yet! We are in MT->PMT era.
Kirav
07-08-2008, 18:09
We have returned our survey, indicating that we are Human, yet recognise nonhuman rights.

Currently, we recognise the sentient rights of:

-Cetaceans(Dolphins, Whales)
-Kal'Har
-Pachyderms
-Gorillas (Though the Empire's total Gorilla population is 8)
Bears Armed
07-08-2008, 18:33
To J.V. Barry, Chair of Bio-Barometer International, Biotopia,


From the possible answers that you listed, my government considers #1: 'non-human nation' to be the most appropriate in our case although we do also have a [very small] Human minority present within our territories. According to the latest survey our population's actual composition is _

Ursines (anthropomorphic Bears) of various strains = c.96%;
Harr’aynau (physically ‘Human’, although inclined to be heavily-built & probably rather hairy, but spiritually ‘Ursine’ instead) = c.1½ %,
Smith-folk (i.e. Dwarves) = c.1%,
Brocken (anthropomorphic Badgers) = c.¾ %,
Hwa (anthropomorphic Giant Pandas) = c.¼ %,
others (mainly Humans, plus some 'Vokksur' [Fox-people] and 'Luthrai' [Otter-people], maybe even a few members of further stocks) = c.[¼ to ½]%.


Beorra o Berrum,
Chairbear of Committtee for The Strangers,
Confederated Clans of Free Bears of Bears Armed.
Enkavia
07-08-2008, 18:46
To be honest i'd only been thinking of MT nations but it's a general poll open to all.

FT and fantasy-tech i would tolerate, but MT is supposed to contain a bit more realism than the others, and therefore i beleive is not the place for non-humans.
Biotopia
07-08-2008, 18:53
I and several others i know played MT non-human nations. Part of the fun was playing these straight down the line nations which, oh, by the way, just happened to be be non-human :wink:
The Altan Steppes
07-08-2008, 19:14
TO: J. V. Barry
Chair, Bio-Barometer International

Thank you for your inquiry concerning the status of non-human sentient beings in the Trilateral Federation. As a nation that values and protects civil and social rights, the Federation has always granted sentient non-humans the same rights and status in our society as humans.

While we do not have a large population of non-humans in our nation, recent immigration from other countries has given us a small but significant non-human population, whose contributions and beliefs we value as part of the rich cultural and social mix that is our nation.

Altan Steppes Subdepartment of Immigration and Citizenship
Tanara
07-08-2008, 19:26
The Phoenix Empire of Tanara's population is roughly 50% human ( PSH , genemodd, human derived therianthope, vampire ) and about 50% Other Than Human. These all have the exact same rights as humans.

OTH Population figures...

Xa'Cz'inni - 25%

Grendels - 7%

A.I.'s - 6%

Celestials - 4%

Nekk-ito -3%

Draconic - 1%

Sidhe - 1%

Other Species combines total about 3%
Biotopia
08-08-2008, 10:54
bump me, freddy
Haoaera
08-08-2008, 11:25
Haoaera are non-human, but rather a sentient and sapient avian species having evolved in isolation on the archipelago of Chrykori. While a now-extinct sapient reptilian race once lived in the area, the Haoaeran now exist there in solitude. Their technology level is somewhat comparable to most modern-day human civilisations, though their military technology is not as advanced. They have established a stable, long-lasting, unified nation covering the whole of Chrykori known as the Constitutional Monarchy of Haoaeran, of which the head of state is the hereditary and spiritual leader called Mon Haoaera, and the head of government is the elected Dun Haoaera.

No humans live anywhere on Chrykori.
Biotopia
08-08-2008, 14:51
bump your way to a bronze
kenavt
08-08-2008, 15:15
Official Communique of the Confederacy of Kenavt
Diplomatic Dispatch

Dear Organizers of the Bio-Barometer;

I was pleasantly surprised to have my secretary put a survey on my desk. Kenavtan law restricts surveys by the public under certain restrictions. Once I saw the address, I knew it was no normal survey. It was an important issue that all nations face. The Bio-Barometer annual.

I immediately knew what box to check. But the implications of this survey... I thought to myself. Non-humans in the Confederacy are largely hidden, and under suspicion. In fact, if you can keep this on the down-low, my brother Kevin was bitten by a vampire a couple of years ago in downtown Poiuytrewq, our capital. I had to cover it up, and it took a while.

I decided to check the "Human nation, but respects non-human rights" because there are no laws on the books that restrict non-human rights. Even though Law 34039 Section II Line 46 is a little troublesome: All species in Kenavt must be filed and approved by the Natural Order Agency. If the public ever finds out about non-human species, which is happening little by little everyday despite government efforts, we could have a problem on our hands.

Stay tuned!


Duke Andrew da Vincho
Premier



Stamp of Approval

Harry Gholston
NAODA Chief

OOC: That's a great RP idea... my non-humans breaking out and taking a voice. I'll try to consider it.
Biotopia
08-08-2008, 19:46
bump for chumps

ooc: a most amusing reply :)
Catawaba
08-08-2008, 21:04
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The Miraadery of Catawaba
An Official Communication from the Alpha Miraade Errant Mira'ad
To J. V. Barry, Chair, Bio-Barometer International

Chairman Barry,

Catawaba has been for the longest time a colony of the former Togovian Empire. Togovia has through out its history exploited non-human citizens through genetic experimentation and as a servant class in Catawaba and other Togovian colonies such as the Herringdom of the Outback Organization. However unlike the Herringdom, the Miraadery has a miniscule population of non-humans.

My non-human is almost entirely consituted of twenty-six vornskrari, a genetically engineered hybrid of human and vornskr, a native jungle canine, DNA. Vornskrari enjoy the very same rights that a human Catawaba does and are highly valued and respected members of the Catawaban military of which my Guard is a but a branch.

A rather recent addition that is being discussed and evaluated for citizenship are six artificial sentients who serve prominently in our Navy as captain and crew of our six SASs (Submarine Artificially Sentient). Sympathesizers, including the organic Navy and Miraaderic Guard liasons, are lobbying to have these sentient naval vessels be given the rights of any serving sailor. Opposition to this movement comes mainly from one man, Air Force General Matthew Quigley, whose position is summed up as "Do y'all remember SkyNet? WOPR? AI is a crapshoot!" The debate is ongoing...if not always serious.

From the heart,


Errant Mira'ad
Alpha Miraade
Otagia
08-08-2008, 22:23
MTly, nonhumans are very much silly, and unless RP'd EXTREMELY well (which I've seen happen exactly once) I just consider them people in fursuits (and thus in need of intensive therapy according to Otagian medical experts).

FTly, nonhumans are nearly universally acceptable. For instance, the Otagian Citizenry includes humans, uplifted dogs, giant man-eating sadomasochistic psychic lizards, and the occasional ESUS ex-pat.
Biotopia
08-08-2008, 22:36
giant man-eating sadomasochistic psychic lizards

"sounds like my ex.. er... thank you for replying to our poll."

ooc:yeah i remember a lot of poeple initially pulling the whole 'you're a Halloween nation, right?' when i was non-human but eventually everyone i'd established interaction with accepted it.
Oseato
08-08-2008, 22:44
The Federation of Oseato does not recognize non-humans.
kenavt
08-08-2008, 23:08
bump for chumps

ooc: a most amusing reply :)

Why thank you. I try to RP along those lines that were outlined.
Biotopia
08-08-2008, 23:28
The Federation of Oseato does not recognize non-humans.

shame on you Oseato, but welcome to the minorty

- this opinion was brought you by BIOFLAKES - now 3 times more flakey
Zinaire
08-08-2008, 23:36
Non-human MT nations miff me quite a bit and given the chance, I shouldn't think I would RP with them.
Biotopia
08-08-2008, 23:54
well i suppose it's lucky for the Biotopians than that the entire nation awoke from an existential crisis as homo sapiens then :wink: although that hasn't helped in encouraging you to open an embassy yet *hint*hint*
Biotopia
09-08-2008, 00:56
bumps before chumps
AHSCA
09-08-2008, 01:03
AHSCA is a mixed Human and Non-Human nation. Both races generally get along harmoniously.
Third Spanish States
09-08-2008, 02:58
Having no bit of evidence regarding their existence and with several scientific researches backing up humanity as the sole sapient being of our Earth, we do not recognize the existence of the Invisible Pink Unicorn, of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, of the Easter Bunny, of Santa Claus and of nonhuman sapients.
Miamoria
09-08-2008, 03:09
I have answered as recognises non humans and oppresses their rights. There's only one non-human race other than wild animals and they are jolly green giants and we eat them.
Anagonia
09-08-2008, 03:24
In FT, I play a nation with a small human population and larger Non-Human population. Although in most of the RP's the Humans could be seen as equal in numbers. As for in MT, it's mostly Human, but in that they recognize and protect the Non-Human Sentient Rights.

Surprisingly enough, I have yet to see any alliance suddenly attack me for that. Either way, most of my main characters are Non-Human in FT. So, I suppose my best choice is Human Population that recognizes Non-Human Rights.
Biotopia
09-08-2008, 11:01
bumpmahump
Neo Kirisubo
09-08-2008, 16:48
the FT Neo Kirisuban Federation does recognise non-human rights and they have the same rights and responsibilities as the majority human (90% female) population do.

Xiscapian Kitsunes are regular visitors as well as other visiting allies. We also have equal rights for AI lifeforms which form a species called Persai's. They look human but they have an android human looking body with a fully AI mind and personality. The only way to tell them apart is by looking at their ears and they're faster, stronger and tougher than a human.

They can also reside in powerful computers and they can also take holographic forms when residing in a starships computer.
Biotopia
09-08-2008, 19:43
B*u*m*p
Biotopia
12-08-2008, 17:19
bu-bu-bu-bu-m-m-m-ppp

two short of a nice round sixty!