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Mt. Id's Military

Mt Id
03-08-2008, 05:42
Not sure where to post this, but i've seen similar here so i'll go with it. I'm new to this game so this is my first attempt at making a simblance of a military in this game. So any suggestions would be appreciated, but please don't laugh if I make a fool of myself :D. I borrowed almost exclusively from the US Armed Forces and hopefully they won't mind. lol. I havn't had time to concot my own version of weaponry yet.

Main Infantry Weapons
XM8 Assualt Rifle-Image (http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k276/Scythe80/?action=view&current=XM8-Poster.jpg)

The XM8 is an Assualt rifle with so many detachable parts, that's it's basically a portable squad. It can hold Grenade Launchers, Shotguns(not included in image), Sniper Scopes, Bipods, and almost anything else you could possible need, giving one weapon the versatility of a full range of weapons.

Weight See variants in image
Length See variants in image
Barrel length See variants in image

Cartridge 5.56x45mm NATO
Action Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Rate of fire 750 rounds/min
Muzzle velocity 920 m/s
Feed system 30-round detachable box magazine, 100-round C-Mag drum magazine
Sights Unmagnified reflex sight (4x for DMR variant)


Javelin Missile Laucher-Image (http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k276/Scythe80/?action=view&current=Javelin3.jpg)

Javelin is a fire-and-forget missile with lock-on before launch and automatic self-guidance. The system takes a top-attack flight profile against armored vehicles (attacking the top armor which is generally thinner) but can also take a direct-attack mode for use against buildings or fortifications. This missile also has the ability to engage helicopters in the direct attack mode. The missile reaches a peak altitude of 150m in top attack mode and 50m in direct fire mode. The missile is equipped with an imaging infrared seeker. The tandem warhead is fitted with two shaped charges: a precursor warhead to detonate any explosive reactive armor and a primary warhead to penetrate base armor.

Type: Anti-tank guided missile launcher
Weight: 11.8 kg (26.0 lb) - Missile
6.4 kg (14.1 lb) - CLU
Length: 1.1 m (42.6 in) - Missile
1.2 m (47.2 in) - Launch Tube
Diameter: 127 mm (5.0 in) - Missile
142 mm (5.6 in) - Launch Tube
Crew: 2
Effective range: 75 to 2500 m
Warhead Tandem: shaped charge HEAT
Warhead weight: 8.4 kg (18.5 lb)
Detonation mechanism: Impact force
Engine: Solid Fuel Rocket
Guidance system: Infrared homing

Starstreak-Image (http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k276/Scythe80/?action=view&current=Starstreak.jpg)

Starstreak is a short range surface-to-air missile. It is also known as Starstreak HVM where HVM stands for "High Velocity Missile". After launch the missile accelerates to approximately Mach 3.5, at which point it launches three laser beam riding submunitions. The use of three submunitions increases the likelihood of a successful hit on the target.

Weight 16.82 kg
Length 1.397 m
Diameter 13 cm
Crew 1

Effective range 0.3–7 km
Warhead Three explosive sub-munitions ("darts")
Warhead weight 0.9 kg
Detonation
mechanism Impact Delay

Engine First stage: Royal Ordnance Brambling cast double-based propellant blip rocket motor.
Second stage: Royal Ordnance Titus cast double-based propellant

Speed Mach 3.5 at second stage burnout
Guidance
system SACLOS system

Main Armor Units
M1 Abrams Tank-Image (http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k276/Scythe80/?action=view&current=800px-M1-A1_Abrams_1.jpg)
The M1 Abrams is a well armed, heavily armored, and highly mobile tank designed for modern armored ground warfare. Notable features of the M1 Abrams include the use of a powerful gas turbine engine, the adoption of sophisticated composite armor, and separate ammunition storage in a blow-out compartment for crew safety.

Type: Main battle tank
Weight 67.6 short tons (61.4 metric tons)
Length Gun forward: 32.04 ft (9.77 m)
Hull length: 26.02 ft (7.93 m)
Width 12 ft (3.66 m)
Height 8 ft (2.44 m)
Crew 4 (commander, gunner, loader, driver)

Armor: Chobham, RHA
Primary 105 mm M68 rifled cannon (M1)
armament: 120 mm M256 smoothbore cannon (M1A1, M1A2, M1A2SEP)

Secondary 1 x .50-caliber (12.7 mm) M2HB heavy machine gun
armament: 2 x M240 7.62 mm machine guns (1 pintle-mounted, 1 coaxial)
Engine: AGT-1500C multi-fuel turbine engine 1500 hp (1119 kW)
Power/weight: 24.5 hp/metric ton
Transmission: Allison DDA X-1100-3B
Suspension: Torsion bar
Operational range 465.29 km (289 mi)
With NBC system: 449.19 km (279 mi)
Speed Road: 67.72 km/h (42 mph)
Off-road: 48.3 km/h (30 mph)

Artillery

XM2001 Crusader-Image (http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k276/Scythe80/?action=view&current=XM2001_Crusader.jpg)

The XM2001 Crusader was designed to improve survivability, lethality, mobility, and effectiveness over other similar artillery. It was intended to be an automated gun (as opposed to missile) artillery system equipped with MRSI so that 7 rounds could land simultaniously from the same gun.

Weight 43 tons
Length 7.53 m
Width 3.31 m
Height 3.00 m
Crew 3 (Commander, Driver, Gunner)

Primary XM297E2 Howitzer
armament
Engine LV100-5 turbine engine
1500 hp (1119 kW)
Operational
range 50km maximum
Speed 39-48 km/h

Airforce
F-22 Raptor-Image (http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k276/Scythe80/?action=view&current=F22.jpg)
F-22 Raptor is a fighter aircraft that uses stealth technology. It is primarily an air superiority fighter, but has multiple capabilities that include ground attack, electronic warfare, and signals intelligence roles.

Crew: 1
Length: 62 ft 1 in (18.90 m)
Wingspan: 44 ft 6 in (13.56 m)
Height: 16 ft 8 in (5.08 m)
Wing area: 840 ft² (78.04 m²)
Airfoil: NACA 64A?05.92 root, NACA 64A?04.29 tip
Empty weight: 43,430 lb (19,700 kg[1][84])
Loaded weight: 64,460 lb (29,300 kg[85])
Max takeoff weight: 83,500 lb (38,000 kg)
Powerplant: 2× Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 Pitch Thrust vectoring turbofans, 35,000+ lb (156+ kN) each
Performance

Maximum speed:

At altitude: Mach 2.25 (1,500 mph, 2,414 km/h)[86]
Supercruise: Mach 1.82 (1,220 mph, 1,963 km/h)[86]
Range: 1,600 nmi (1,840 mi, 2,960 km) with 2 external fuel tanks
Combat radius: 410 nmi[83] (471 mi, 759 km)
Ferry range: 2,000 mi (1,738 nmi, 3,219 km)
Service ceiling 65,000 ft (19,812 m)
Wing loading: 66 lb/ft² (322 kg/m²)
Thrust/weight:

With full internal fuel: 1.09 (18,000 Pounds)
With 50% internal fuel: 1.26 (9,000 Pounds)
Maximum g-load: -3.0/+9.0 g[86]

Armament
Guns: 1× 20 mm (0.787 in) M61A2 Vulcan gatling gun in starboard wing root, 480 rounds
Air to air loadout:
6× AIM-120 AMRAAM
2× AIM-9 Sidewinder
Air to ground loadout:
2× AIM-120 AMRAAM and
2× AIM-9 Sidewinder and one of the following:
2× 1,000 lb (450 kg) JDAM or
2× Wind Corrected Munitions Dispensers (WCMDs) or
8× 250 lb (110 kg) GBU-39 Small Diameter Bombs
Additionally, four external hardpoints can be fitted to carry weapons or fuel tanks, each with a capacity of about 5,000 lb (2268 kg).[87]
Avionics


RWR (Radar warning receiver): 250 nmi (463 km) or more[40]
Radar: 125-150 miles (200-240 km) against 1 m² targets (estimated range)[38]

B-2 Spirit-Image (http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k276/Scythe80/?action=view&current=B-2.jpg)

B-2 Spirit is a multi-role stealth heavy bomber, capable of deploying both conventional and nuclear weapons. The B-2's stealth technology is intended to aid the aircraft's penetration role in order to survive extremely dense anti-aircraft defenses otherwise considered impenetrable by combat aircraft.

General characteristics

Crew: 2
Length: 69 ft (21 m)
Wingspan: 172 ft (52.4 m)
Height: 17 ft (5.2 m)
Wing area: 5,000 ft² (460 m²)
Empty weight: 158,000 lb (71.7 t)
Loaded weight: 336,500 lb (152.6 t)
Max takeoff weight: 376,000 lb (171.0 t)
Powerplant: 4× General Electric F118-GE-100 turbofans, 17,300 lbf (77 kN) each
Performance

Maximum speed: 410 knots (760 km/h, 470 mph)
Range: 5,600 nm (10,400 km, 6,400 mi)
Service ceiling 50,000 ft (15,000 m)
Wing loading: 67.3 lb/ft² (329 kg/m²)
Thrust/weight: 0.205
Armament

2 internal bays for 50,000 lb (22,700 kg) of ordnance.[43]
80× 500 lb class bombs (Mk-82) mounted on Bomb Rack Assembly (BRA)
36× 750 lb CBU class bombs on BRA
16× 2000 lb class weapons (Mk-84, JDAM-84, JDAM-102) mounted on Rotary Launcher Assembly (RLA)
16× B61 or B83 nuclear weapons on RLA

C-17 Globemaster III-The C-17 Globemaster III is capable of rapid strategic delivery of troops and all types of cargo to main operating bases or directly to forward bases in the deployment area. It is also capable of performing tactical airlift, medical evacuation and airdrop missions

General characteristics

Crew: 3: 2 pilots, 1 loadmaster
Capacity:

102 troops or
36 litter and 54 ambulatory patients
Payload: 170,900 lb (77,519 kg) of cargo distributed at max over 18 463L master pallets or a mix of palletized cargo and vehicles
Length: 174 ft (53 m)
Wingspan: 169.8 ft (51.75 m)
Height: 55.1 ft (16.8 m)
Wing area: 3,800 ft² (353 m²)
Empty weight: 282,500 lb (128,100 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 585,000 lb (265,350 kg)
Powerplant: 4× Pratt & Whitney F117-PW-100 turbofans, 40,440 lbf (180 kN) each
Fuel capacity: 35,546 US gal (134,556 L)

Performance

Cruise speed: Mach 0.76 (450 knots, 515 mph, 830 km/h)
Range: 2,420 nmi[74] (2,785 mi, 4,482 km)
Service ceiling 45,000 ft (13,716 m)
Max wing loading: 150 lb/ft² (750 kg/m²)
Minimum thrust/weight: 0.277

E-3 Sentry-Image (http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k276/Scythe80/?action=view&current=e3sentry.jpg)

E-3 Sentry is a military airborne warning and control system (AWACS) aircraft that provides all-weather surveillance, command, control and communications.

General characteristics

Crew: Flight crew: 4
Mission crew: 13-19
Length: 152 ft 11 in (46.61 m)
Wingspan: 145 ft 9 in (44.42 m)
Height: 41 ft 4 in (12.6 m)
Wing area: 3,050 ft² (283.4 m²)
Empty weight: 162,000 lb (73,480 kg)
Loaded weight: 325,000 lb (147,400 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 347,000 lb (156,000 kg)
Powerplant: 4× Pratt and Whitney TF33-PW-100A turbofan, 21,000 lbf (93 kN) each

Performance
Maximum speed: 530 mph (855 km/h)
Range: 4,000 NM (7,400 km) (8 hr)
Service ceiling 29,000 ft (9,000 m)

KC-10 Extender-Image (http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k276/Scythe80/?action=view&current=KC-10.jpg)
The KC-10 Extender is an air-to-air tanker aircraft with both a centerline refueling boom and a drogue/hose system on the right side of the rear fuselage along with wing-mounted pods for added refueling locations.

General characteristics

Crew: 4 (pilot, copilot, flight engineer, boom operator)
Length: 181 ft 7 in (54.4 m)
Wingspan: 165 ft 4.5 in (50 m)
Height: 58 ft 1 in (17.4 m)
Wing area: 3,958 ft² (367.7 m²)
Empty weight: 241,027 lb (109,328 kg)
Loaded weight: 593,000 lb (269,000 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 590,000 lb (267,600 kg)
Powerplant: 3× F103/General Electric CF6-50C2 turbofans, 52,500 lbf (236 kN) each
Maximum Fuel Load: 356,000 lb (160,200 kg) (limited on takeoff by MTOW)

Performance
Maximum speed: 538 knots (619 mph, 996 km/h)
Range: 4,400 mi (7,032 km)
Ferry range: 11,500 mi (18,507 km)
Service ceiling 42,000 ft (12,727 m)
Rate of climb: 6,870 ft/min (34.9 m/s)



Navy

Destroyers
Arleigh Burke class destroyer-Image (http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k276/Scythe80/?action=view&current=USS_Arleigh_Burke_Mediterranean.jpg)

The Arleigh Burke class of guided missile destroyers is built around the Aegis combat system and the SPY-1D multi-function phased array radar. The Arleigh Burke class are among the largest and most powerful destroyers ever built, both larger and more heavily armed than many previous cruisers.

Class and type: guided missile destroyer
Displacement: 8,315 tons full load (Flight I)
8,400 tons full load (Flight II)
9,200 tons full load (Flight IIA)
Length: 505 feet (154 m) (Flights I and II)
509 feet (155 m) (Flight IIA)
Beam: 59 feet (18 m)
Draft: 30.5 feet (9.3 m)
Propulsion: 4 General Electric LM2500-30 gas turbines;
two shafts,
108,000 total shaft horsepower (4 x 27,000 horsepower) (75 MW)
Speed: 30+ knots (56+ km/h)
Range: 4,400 nautical miles (8,100 km) at 20 knots (37 km/h)
Boats and landing
craft carried: 2 Rigid hull inflatable boats
Complement: 23 officers, 300 enlisted
Armament: • 90 cells Mk 41 vertical launch systems
• BGM-109 Tomahawk
• RGM-84 Harpoon SSM (not in Flight IIa units)
• SM-2 Standard SAM (has an ASuW mode)
•SM-3 Standard Ballistic missile defense missile for AEGIS BMD (DDG-61, some others)
• RIM-162 ESSM SAM (DDG-79 onward)
• RUM-139 Vertical Launch ASROC
• one 5 inch (127 mm/54) Mk-45 (lightweight gun) (DDG-51 through -80)
• one 5 inch (127 mm/62) Mk-45 mod 4 (lightweight gun) (DDG-81 on)
• two 20 mm Phalanx CIWS (DDG-51 through -83, several later units)
• two Mark 32 triple torpedo tubes (six Mk-46 or Mk-50 torpedoes, Mk-54 in the near future)
Aircraft carried: • None, but LAMPS III electronics installed on landing deck for coordinated DDG-51/helo ASW operations (Flights I and II)
• two SH-60 Seahawk LAMPS III helos (Flight IIA)

Cruisers
Ticonderoga class cruiser-Image (http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k276/Scythe80/?action=view&current=Ticonderoga.jpg)

The Ticonderoga Class uses phased-array radar; the increased combat capability offered by the Aegis combat system and the AN/SPY-1 radar system give it a distinct advantage over similar types of ships.

Type: Guided missile cruiser
Displacement: approx. 9,600 tons full load
Length: 567 feet (173 m)
Beam: 55 feet (17 m)
Draught: 33 feet (10 m)
Propulsion: 4 × General Electric LM2500 gas turbines, 2 shafts, 80,000 shp (60 MW)
Speed: 32.5 knots (60 km/h)
Range: 6,000 nautical miles (11,000 km) at 20 knots (37 km/h); 3,300 nautical miles (6,000 km) at 30 knots (56 km/h).
Complement: 33 officers & 327 enlisted
Sensors and
processing systems: AN/SPY-1A/B multi-function radar
AN/SPS-49 air search radar
AN/SPG-62 fire control radar
AN/SPS-55 surface search radar
AN/SPQ-9 gun fire control radar
AN/SQQ-89(V)3 Sonar suite, consisting of
AN/SQS-53B/C/D Active sonar
AN/SQR-19 TACTAS Passive sonar
AN/SQQ-28 Light airborne multi-purpose system
AN/SLQ-32 Electronic Warfare Suite
Electronic warfare
and decoys: Mark 36 SRBOC
AN/SLQ-25 Nixie
Armament: (cruiser mark 26) 2 × Mk 26 missile launchers
88 × RIM-66 SM-2
8 × RGM-84 Harpoon missiles
2 × Mark 45 5 in / 54 cal lightweight gun
2–4 × .50 cal (12.7 mm) gun
2 × Phalanx CIWS
2 × Mk 32 12.75 in (324 mm) triple torpedo tubes
(cruiser mark 41) 2 × 61 cell Mk 41 vertical launch systems
122 × RIM-66 SM-2, RIM-162 ESSM, BGM-109 Tomahawk, or RUM-139 VL-Asroc
8 × RGM-84 Harpoon missiles
2 × Mark 45 5 in / 54 cal lightweight gun
2 × 25 mm
2–4 × .50 cal (12.7 mm) gun
2 × Phalanx CIWS
2 × Mk 32 12.75 in (324 mm) triple torpedo tubes
Armor: limited Kevlar splinter protection in critical areas
Aircraft carried: 2 × Sikorsky SH-60 Seahawk LAMPS III helicopters.

Aircraft Carriers
CVN-21 Super Carrier-Image (http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k276/Scythe80/?action=view&current=CVN-21.jpg)

Carriers of the CVN-21 class will incorporate many new design features including a new nuclear reactor design (the A1B reactor), stealthier features to help reduce radar profile, electromagnetic catapults, advanced arresting gear, and reduced crewing requirements.

Displacement: 100,000 long tons (approximately 101,600 metric tons)
Length: 1,092 ft (333 m)
Beam: 134 ft (41 m)
Propulsion: 2 A1B nuclear reactors
Speed: 30+ knots (34 mph - 56 km/h)
Complement: 4,660
Armament: Surface-to-air missiles
Close-in weapons systems
Aircraft carried: 5 Squadrans of 15 F-35Bs
Aviation facilities: 1,092 × 256 foot (333 × 78 m) flight deck

Transport Craft
Newport class landing ship
The Newport class landing ship is capable of steaming at a sustained speed of 20 knots (37 km/h). To obtain that speed, the traditional blunt bow doors of the LST were replaced by a pointed ship bow. Unloading is accomplished through the use of a 112-foot (34 m) ramp operated over the bow and supported by twin derrick arms. A stern gate to the tank deck permits unloading of amphibious tractors into the water or the unloading of other vehicles into a landing craft utility (LCU), onto a pier, or directly into the water. Capable of operating with high-speed amphibious squadrons consisting of LHAs, LPDs, and LSDs, the Newport-class LST can transport tanks, other heavy vehicles, and engineer equipment which cannot readily be landed by helicopters or landing craft.

Type: Tank Landing Ship
Displacement: approx. 4,793 tons light loaded,
8,500 tons fully loaded
Length: 522 ft (159 m)
Beam: 70 ft (21 m)
Draft: 17.4 ft (5.3 m)
Propulsion: 6 ALCO diesels (3 per shaft)
16,000 shaft horsepower;
800 hp GE bow thruster.
2 Hydraulically Controlled Variable Pitch Reversible Props and 1 Variable Pitch Bow Thruster
3 ALCO/GE Generators (750 kW, 1201 A each)
Speed: 20+ knots (37+ km/h)
Troops: Marines - approximately 400 including officers and enlisted, when embarked
Complement: Navy - 14 officers, 210 enlisted

Landing Craft Utility
The Landing Craft Utility (LCU) is a small ship used by amphibious forces to transport equipment and troops to the shore. They are capable of transporting tracked or wheeled vehicles and troops from amphibious assault ships to beachheads or piers.

Length 174 ft (53 m)
Beam 42 ft (12.8 m)
Displacement 575 tons (584 metric tons) light;
1087 tons (1104 metric tons) full load.
Draft 8 ft (light);
9 ft (loaded).
Beaching draft 4 ft (1 m) at the bow.
Deck area 2,500 ft² (232 m²)
Payload 350 short tons (320 t) (15 C-141 loads).
5 M1 main battle tanks;
or 12 (24 double-stacked) 20-foot (6 m) ISO containers.
Range 10,000 nautical miles (20,000 km) at 12 knots (22 km/h) light;
6,500 nautical miles (12,040 km) at 10 knots (19 km/h) loaded.
Crew 13


Support Craft
Fast combat support ship-Image (http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k276/Scythe80/?action=view&current=Supportship.jpg)

The fast combat support ship is Mt. Id's largest combat logistics ship, designed as an oiler, ammunition and supply ship. The ship has the speed and armament to keep up with carrier battle groups. It rapidly replenishes Navy task forces and can carry more than 177,000 barrels of oil (28,000 m³), 2,150 tons of ammunition, 500 tons of dry stores and 250 tons of refrigerated stores. It receives petroleum products, ammunition and stores from shuttle ships and redistributes these items simultaneously to carrier battle group ships. This reduces the vulnerability of serviced ships by reducing alongside time.

Power Plant: four General Electric LM2500 gas turbines; two shafts; 105,000 hp (78 MW)
Length: 754 ft (229.9 m)
Beam: 107 ft (32.6 m)
Draft: 38 ft (11.6 m)
Displacement: 48,800 tons full load
Speed: 25 knots (46 km/h)
Aircraft: Three Sikorsky MH-60S Knighthawk helicopters
Crew: 160 civil service mariners
Armament: NATO Sea Sparrow missiles, two Phalanx close-in weapons systems, two 25 mm automatic cannon, 4 12.7x99 mm M2 heavy machine guns or 4 M240G 7.62x51 mm medium machine guns.


Phalanx CIWS-Image (http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k276/Scythe80/?action=view&current=Phalanx.jpg)

The Phalanx Close-In Weapon System (CIWS) is an anti-missile system used by the Mt. Id Navy on every class of surface combat ship in its fleet. it was developed as the final line of defense (terminal defense or point defense) against anti-ship missiles (AShMs), including high-g and maneuvering sea-skimmers.

More Detailed Info (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_CIWS)
Kelewann
03-08-2008, 05:47
Nice :) lots of info :)
Mt Id
03-08-2008, 05:49
took me a couple of hours to get all that. lol. Gotta love Wikipedia :D.
Chernobl
03-08-2008, 05:50
hah almost identical to me.
Mt Id
03-08-2008, 05:54
That's not even including any artillery or other Fire Support units. I'll post those another day. lol. Time for me to go to bed.
Piccavia
03-08-2008, 05:56
Wow, impressive. Very, very detailed. Though, if I may make a suggestion, I think you might want to focus more heavily on your order of battle, a comprehensive listing of your military's makeup, than the equipment itself.
Kelewann
03-08-2008, 05:59
jw how do u make it so u click the immage and it shows u the pick im kinda a noob at all of this lol
Mt Id
03-08-2008, 18:18
ok, there's a button on in the box where u type your message that looks like an earth with a paperclip on it orsomething like that. click that and it opens a window where u can put in a link to another website. Once you place in the link, it will be put in your message and have a section of it highlighted. Change that Highlighted section to what you want you're link to be called
Mt Id
03-08-2008, 18:33
Wow, impressive. Very, very detailed. Though, if I may make a suggestion, I think you might want to focus more heavily on your order of battle, a comprehensive listing of your military's makeup, than the equipment itself.

Thanks, but what do you mean? Like specify numbers and such?
Pan-Arab Barronia
03-08-2008, 18:42
Thanks, but what do you mean? Like specify numbers and such?

Pretty much, for example, how many men in your armed forces? How are they organised (how many men in a platoon, battalion)?, what does each soldier carry, etc.
Mt Id
03-08-2008, 18:57
Ah! lol. I'll get to work on that. Thanks
Mt Id
04-08-2008, 02:17
Unit Groupings

Infantry:

Regiment: 4,000 troops
Battalion: 800 troops
Company: 200 troops
Platoon: 50 troops
Squad: 10 troops

All soldiers carry XM8 Assualt Rifles with evenly distributed attachments except for two in each squad who carry the Javelin Missile Launcher and one who carries a Starstreak SAM in addition to his rifle.

Armor:

Battalion: 500 tanks (2,000 men)
Company: 250 tanks (1,000 men)
Platoon: 50 tanks (200 men)
Squad: 5 tanks (20 men)
Individual: 1 tank (4 men)

Air Force:

Fighter Squadran: 25 planes (25 men)
Fighter Wind: 5 planes (5 men)

Bomber Squadran: 15 planes (30 men)
Bomber Wing: 3 planes (6 men)

Navy:

Generic Fighting Fleet:
1 Carrier-(4,660 Ship crew plus 75 pilots=4,745)
75 F-35B Attack Planes
5 Arleigh Burke class destroyers (323 crew each)
3 Ticonderoga class cruisers (360 crew each)
Total man power: 7,440

Genaric Transport Fleet:
100 Newport class transports
400 troops each
224 Crew each
10 Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers (323 crew each)
7 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers (360 crew each)
Total Man Power: 5,974 crew and 40,000 troop transport room

Current Mt. Id Troop Units:

Ground:
First Response Rapid Deployment Force (FRRDF): Lead by General Blake
100,000 Infantry, 1,000 Abrams tanks.
25 Regiments of Infantry, 2 battalions of Armor.
50,000 Support troops (supply truck drivers, etc)
Total ManPower: 152,000

First Assualt Force (FAF): Lead by General Forue
200,000 Infantry, 5,000 Abramns Tanks
50 Regiments, 10 Battalions of Armor
100,000 SUpport troops
First Defense Force (FDF): Lead by General Vulles
300,000 Infantry, 2,000 Abrams tanks
50 Regiments of Infantry, 4 Battalions of Armor
No support troops (Static Defense force stationed at Home)
Total Man Power: 208,000
Total Combat Ground Troops: 630,000
Total Support Ground Troops: 150,000

Air:
Falcon Lead: Commanded by Lieutenant Taiters
25 F-22s
1 Squadran
Total Man Power: 25
Spirit Lead: Commanded by Lieutenant Hooper
15 B-2 Spirits
1 Squadran
Total Man Power: 30

Assualt Flight (AF): Commanded by Colonel Williams
75 F-22s
3 Squadrans of F-22s
30 B-2 Spirits
2 Squadrans of B-2s
Total Man Power: 135

Defense Flight (DF): Commanded by Colonel Stockholm
150 F-22s
6 Squadrans of F-22s
45 B-2 Spirits
3 Squadrans of B-2s
Total Man Power: 240
Total Air Troops: 475
Total Support: 300

Sea:
Rapid Response Fleet (RRF): Commanded by Commander Burke
1 Carrier-(4,660 Ship crew plus 75 pilots=4,745)
75 F-35B Attack Planes
5 Arleigh Burke class destroyers (323 crew each)
3 Ticonderoga class cruisers (360 crew each)
Total man power: 7,440

First Assault Fleet (FAF): Commanded by Commander Carter
2 Carriers-(4,660 Ship crew plus 75 pilots=4,745)
75 F-35B Attack Planes
15 Arleigh Burke class destroyers (323 crew each)
10 Ticonderoga class cruisers (360 crew each)
Total Man Power: 17,935

First Defense Fleet (FDF): Commanded by Commander Lodge
1 Carrier-(4,660 Ship crew plus 75 pilots=4,745)
75 F-35B Attack Planes
20 Arleigh Burke class destroyers (323 crew each)
15 Ticonderoga class cruisers (360 crew each)
Total Man Power: 16,605

Total Sea Combat Personel: 41,980
Total Sea Support: 216 Ships (34,560 men)


All Military Troops: 856,540 men
North-Point
04-08-2008, 02:27
Wow, so you're basically equipped just like everyone else. Good job.
Pan-Arab Barronia
04-08-2008, 02:28
Not a bad start, at all, but remember, logistics counts for four-fifths of your armed forces. For example, if your standing armed forces is 1% of your population, then your actual fighting personnel are 0.2% of your population.
Mt Id
04-08-2008, 02:43
4/5 ths? wow...that's quite a bit. lol
Pan-Arab Barronia
04-08-2008, 02:46
4/5 ths? wow...that's quite a bit. lol

Yeah, you'd be surprised at how much goes into the logistics operations of an armed forces. I heard that the USN has something like 3 logistics ships for every combat vessel. That increases to something like 6 logistics personnel for every infantryman in the US Army.

Details for it aren't really necessary further than what logistics vehicles you use, mind.
Salzland
04-08-2008, 02:48
Honestly, if people were to accurately role-play every step in the logistics chain, no one would ever fight because it would take days just to fill out the requisition forms to move 10,000 troops.
Pan-Arab Barronia
04-08-2008, 03:00
Honestly, if people were to accurately role-play every step in the logistics chain, no one would ever fight because it would take days just to fill out the requisition forms to move 10,000 troops.

Very true. Hence the last bit - you really don't need to say any more than what sort of lorry you use, transport plane, or supply ship.
Asgarnieu
04-08-2008, 03:10
Pretty strong fighter/bomber force, but what about logistics? Fighters and bombers need refueling tankers like the KC-135 Stratotanker, and every airforce should have some sort of AWACS-type aircraft. Also, where's the intelligence aircraft? Great start, but check out some of the more detailed ORBATS and such on a site like Wikistates (http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/wiki/Main_Page). Keep it up, and you'll be a legend around here, just don't go wasting your potential.
Mt Id
04-08-2008, 03:13
That's y i posted asking for tips. I'm here to learn :D.
Piccavia
04-08-2008, 04:00
Here's (http://issuu.com/jbabs/docs/bundeswehr) an example of my comprehensive ORBAT, and I think that it's decent enough, based on its feedback. You'll note that logistics personnel are divvied up between each regiment and between dedicated logistics units; and even though you don't need to RP each supply truck, you should always keep logistics in mind. Logistics can make or break your army in an invasion - they're a constant weakpoint for both you and the enemy.
Tolvan
04-08-2008, 04:42
Why are you using F-35Bs on your carriers? The F-35C isa dedicated carrier based fighter and has superior performance to the F-35B. Also, your carrier air wings should include more than just one type of plane. You need at least five or six types for a balanced air wing. I'd get some E-2s (6 per carrier), some EW aircraft (6 per), proably some ASW planes (6 to 12), and some helos (at least 6). I'd also want at least one squadron of two engine dedicated interceptors aircraft (something like the F-14 or any of the numerous NS designs out there). Finally, I would carry a few extra pilots on your carriers so you back ups in the case of illness or fatigue.
Mt Id
04-08-2008, 05:57
Ah. Very good point. I was just getting a rough carrier group out there so i only bothered with one type of plane lol. Thanks for the tips
Mt Id
04-08-2008, 20:39
I used this (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=275828) forumn to help me figure out how many logistics personall i would need because i like it better than the 4/5ths. lol. Hopefully it will still work


Infantry:
Regiment: 4,000 troops
Battalion: 800 troops
Company: 200 troops
Platoon: 50 troops
Squad: 10 troops

All soldiers carry XM8 Assualt Rifles with evenly distributed attachments except for
two in each squad who carry the Javelin Missile Launcher and one who carries a
Starstreak SAM in addition to his rifle.

Each regiment of regular soldiers has one squad who are not only Soldiers but also Engineers

Armor:

Battalion: 500 tanks (2,000 men)
Company: 250 tanks (1,000 men)
Platoon: 50 tanks (200 men)
Squad: 5 tanks (20 men)
Individual: 1 tank (4 men)

Air Force:

Fighter Squadran: 25 planes (25 men)
Fighter Wind: 5 planes (5 men)

Bomber Squadran: 15 planes (30 men)
Bomber Wing: 3 planes (6 men)

Navy:

Generic Fighting Fleet:
1 Carrier-(4,660 Ship crew plus 75 pilots=4,745)
5 Arleigh Burke class destroyers (323 crew each)
3 Ticonderoga class cruisers (360 crew each)
18 Fast combat support ships (160 Each)
Total man power: 10,320

Generic Transport Fleet:
100 Newport class transports
(400 troops each)
(224 Crew each)
10 Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers (323 crew each)
7 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers (360 crew each)
60 Fast combat support ships (160 crew each)
Total Man Power: 15,974 crew and 40,000 troop transport room

Units:

Ground:
First Response Rapid Deployment Force (FRRDF): Lead by General Blake
100,000 Infantry, 1,000 Abrams tanks.
(25 Regiments of Infantry, 2 battalions of Armor.)
104,000 Support troops (supply truck drivers, etc)
Combat Troops: 104,000
Support Troops:104,000

First Assualt Force (FAF): Lead by General Forue
100,000 Infantry, 5,000 Abramns Tanks
(50 Regiments, 10 Battalions of Armor)
120,000 Support troops
Combat Troops: 120,000
Support Troops:120,000

First Defense Force (FDF): Lead by General Vulles
200,000 Infantry, 2,000 Abrams tanks
(50 Regiments of Infantry, 4 Battalions of Armor)
No support troops (Static Defense force stationed at Home)
Combat Troops: 204,000

Total Combat Ground Troops: 428,000
Total Support Ground Troops: 224,000

Air:
Falcon Lead: Commanded by Lieutenant Taiters
25 F-22s
(1 Squadran)
Total Man Power: 25
Total Support: 75

Spirit Lead: Commanded by Lieutenant Hooper
15 B-2 Spirits
(1 Squadran)
Total Man Power: 30
Total Support: 45

Assualt Flight (AF): Commanded by Colonel Williams
75 F-22s
(3 Squadrans of F-22s)
30 B-2 Spirits
(2 Squadrans of B-2s)
Total Combat Man Power: 135
Total Support: 315

Defense Flight (DF): Commanded by Colonel Stockholm
150 F-22s
(6 Squadrans of F-22s)
45 B-2 Spirits
(3 Squadrans of B-2s)
Total Combat Manpower: 240
Total Support: 585

Total Air Troops: 430
Total Support: 1,020
Sea:

Rapid Response Fleet (RRF): Commanded by Commander Burke
1 Carrier-(4,660 Ship crew plus 150 pilots=4,810)
-50 F-35C Attack Planes (1 crew each)
-5 E-2Ds (5 crew each)
-25 F/A-18 Super Hornet (1 crew each)
-5 EA-18G Growler (2 crew each)
-8 S-3 Vikings (4 crew each)
5 Arleigh Burke class destroyers (323 crew each)
3 Ticonderoga class cruisers (360 crew each)
27 Fast combat support ships (160 Each)
Total Combat: 9 ships (7,505 men)
Total Support: 27 ships (4,320 men)

First Assault Fleet (FAF): Commanded by Commander Carter
2 Carriers-(4,660 Ship crew plus 150 pilots=4,810)
-50 F-35C Attack Planes (1 crew each)
-5 E-2Ds (5 crew each)
-25 F/A-18 Super Hornet (1 crew each)
-5 EA-18G Growler (2 crew each)
-8 S-3 Vikings (4 crew each)
15 Arleigh Burke class destroyers (323 crew each)
10 Ticonderoga class cruisers (360 crew each)
85 Fast Combat Support Ships (160 crew each)
Total Combat: 27 ships (18, 015 men)
Total Support: 85 ships (13,600 men)

Defense Fleet (DF): Commanded by Commander Lodge
1 Carrier-(4,660 Ship crew plus 150 pilots=4,810)
-50 F-35C Attack Planes (1 crew each)
-5 E-2Ds (5 crew each)
-25 F/A-18 Super Hornet (1 crew each)
-5 EA-18G Growler (2 crew each)
-8 S-3 Vikings (4 crew each)
20 Arleigh Burke class destroyers (323 crew each)
15 Ticonderoga class cruisers (360 crew each)
50 Fast Combat Support Ships (Needs less since it is usually close to home.)

(160 crew each)
Total Combat: 36 ships (16,670 men)
Total Support: 50 ships (8,000 men)

Total Sea Combat: 72 ships (42,190 men)
Total Sea Support: 162 Ships (25,920 men)


All Military Troops: 721,520 Men
Atruria
04-08-2008, 21:02
OOC:This seems pretty good to me, but there is one thing that I think might need correction. That's your organization of tank units. Right now, your tank units seem excessively large, a single of your armor battalions contains more tanks than the entire RL British Army currently does! Although tank warfare is probably a larger part of NS warfare than real warfare, I still struggle to see where you could use such a unit.

Typically armored platoons (or troops) have somewhere between two and five tanks. Sumer, a contributor to NSDraftroom, explained this to me:


Base-2 (Two tanks per platoon): Should be your basic section system. Should never be used for platoons as it removes tactical flexibility provided by an extra commander tank.

Base-3 (Three tanks per platoon, 1-2 tank HQ unit per company):
- Pro: Good overall firepower, great company breakdown, greater number of platoons, cheaper for simmilar size.
- Cons: Limited guns on target with either one moving two shooting, or two moving one shooting, translating to a company having only 1/3rd of their unit either moving or shooting at any time.

Base-4 (Four tanks per platoon, 2 tank HQ unit per company):
- Pro: Excellent dividability with two sections equal per platoon, allows for half of the unit to move or fire at will, great for close and quick infantry cooperation.
- Cons: Tactical flexibility low (Not as low as base-3) in equal splits within the platoon, commander can not shift as needed.

Base-5 (Five tanks per platoon, 3 tank HQ unit per company):
- Pro: Unmatched tactical flexability, 3/5ths of the unit moving or shooting at any one time allowing for (Out of a 18 tank platoon) 11 tanks either moving or shooting and the remaining 7 doing the other.
- Cons: Heavy and cumbersome, fewer platoons per company, expensive.

Any higher and you become completely inwieldy. Base-6, for example, will look nice on paper but become Base-3 in practice as it is absurdly bulky. Base-2 on the other hand will become Base-4 when you put it into combat as crews start buddying up. Consider that the earliest tactical formations of tank, starting late in the first world war, were Base-2 and Base-3 (Brit and German respectivly), and quickly shifted larger. At one point the French tried out Base-8, and it quickly led into simply Base-4


Typically an armored battalion will consist of about four companies, each with four platoons/troops (it varies from army to army but is rarely over five or under three) and two command tanks (one for the battalion commander and one for his XO). Each battalion thus consists of somewhere from around thirty to around eighty tanks, depending on what base you use and how many companies/platoons you have per battalion.

Hope this helped!

Also, I would encourage you to go the the Strategy & Tactics board on the NSDraftroom forum, which is where I got a load of useful advice on how to organize my military.

http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?act=idx
Mt Id
04-08-2008, 21:04
The tank size i used is just for bulk use, like telling how many go where. If i wanted to use them tacticallly, i would break them down into pairs and such.