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Cleansed by Fire OOC

Yallak
01-08-2008, 13:35
ALL OOC goes in here not the main thread.
Aschenhyrst
01-08-2008, 16:03
My ooc in the main thread shall only be in comment of my rl status. My original post is a bit late but was planned to run coordinated to Gataways actions, a call to work delayed my entering. I`m his full parter in crime, co-conspiritor, etc.

Greston: Mobilization of forces have been there for you to see in our off-site forum for over a week. Much the same as your invations of privacy whilst pretending to be Alogorthia have been there for us to view.
Perhaps if we`d put it in the secure section of forum as opposed to the open part, you`d have noticed it.
We are on to you and we`re going to do what should have been done when you started our (regional) feud with Haven. We`re going to drag you out to the woodshed.
Leistung
01-08-2008, 16:23
Yallack, who are you supporting here? Your second post doesn't say...
Yallak
01-08-2008, 16:49
It's Yallak. Why does everyone put a 'c' in it?

Anyway, no, I didn't mention who we were supporting because we haven't made any declaration of support, the rest of my region is mobilising and it would be stupid of my nation not to as well. They are simple preparing.

And if Yallak intervenes you'll only find out when the explosions begin
Gataway
01-08-2008, 16:53
My post is not a god mode..

Gres already deployed chunks of his military to other areas outside the region..the island I attacked is well within range of long range land based strike craft and wouldn't take a long time to arrive.

Nor where any of my forces expected..in addition a large portion of them utilize stealth technology...

As asch stated deployments and mobilizations were made public for greston to see on the regional forums...Im not going to post the fact that I moved a fighter squadron in II as that would be pointless spam...

I am going to take losses...on all fronts...and as you can see I didn't post anything involving my naval forces apart from cruise missle strikes....although from reading other threads a lot of greston's navy is already out of the region so realistically I shouldn't have much to worry about especially off the small island archipelago of serstabele

Oh and BTW greston I got to see what you said before you edited your post...nice stuff

I will end up restricting the thread participants if this starts to look like another II cluster F***

Sorry I rped a realistic attack and Ryou's opinion is completely worthless to me...and if you keep filling the thread with pointless banter Leistung I will simply ban you from participation in the rp and have the mods delete your posts in it...only warning Im going to give
The Ryou Black Islands
01-08-2008, 16:56
You know, this is a Good RP being if Greston ould reply
The Ryou Black Islands
01-08-2008, 16:59
My post is not a god mode..

Gres already deployed chunks of his military to other areas outside the region..the island I attacked is well within range of long range land based strike craft and wouldn't take a long time to arrive.

Nor where any of my forces expected..in addition a large portion of them utilize stealth technology...

As asch stated deployments and mobilizations were made public for greston to see on the regional forums...Im not going to post the fact that I moved a fighter squadron in II as that would be pointless spam...

I am going to take losses...on all fronts...and as you can see I didn't post anything involving my naval forces apart from cruise missle strikes....although from reading other threads a lot of greston's navy is already out of the region so realistically I shouldn't have much to worry about especially off the small island archipelago of serstabele

Oh and BTW greston I got to see what you said before you edited your post...nice stuff

I will end up restricting the thread participants if this starts to look like another II cluster F***

Ok, well, I am going to TG you soon.
Gataway
01-08-2008, 17:03
You go ahead and do that
Gataway
01-08-2008, 17:14
and @ Greston sure your military is mobilized...but a good chunk of it is also deployed going by the size of fleets you sent to fight the HEG...your nations size and your military budget....

that and like I said before a large percentage of everying sent at you uses multiple levels of stealth or other covert type technology IE Radar jamming etc etc...
Akimonad
01-08-2008, 17:17
We are on to you and we`re going to do what should have been done when you started our (regional) feud with Haven. We`re going to drag you out to the woodshed.

There's no regional feud, as Haven lacks any sort of complete unity.

Now shut up about it. It's done and over and it's becoming increasingly annoying to hear about.
Pan-Arab Barronia
01-08-2008, 20:30
Erm, for the record, Hat pointed out godmodding. Hat. Hataria. Come on Gat, surely that's a sign? You've RP'ed missiles hitting his land without even giving him a chance to intercept.

Of course you're going to take losses, but surely the idea is to let him post his countermeasures first? On that point, Greston's offensive forces have been deployed to the Hegemony war. Admittedly, it is a colony, and is unlikely to be that well-manned, but even so, defensive forces are likely to mean that it's pretty much fully-mobilised and raring to go.
New Greston
01-08-2008, 20:31
My post is not a god mode..

Gres already deployed chunks of his military to other areas outside the region..the island I attacked is well within range of long range land based strike craft and wouldn't take a long time to arrive.

Nor where any of my forces expected..in addition a large portion of them utilize stealth technology...

As asch stated deployments and mobilizations were made public for greston to see on the regional forums...Im not going to post the fact that I moved a fighter squadron in II as that would be pointless spam...

I am going to take losses...on all fronts...and as you can see I didn't post anything involving my naval forces apart from cruise missle strikes....although from reading other threads a lot of greston's navy is already out of the region so realistically I shouldn't have much to worry about especially off the small island archipelago of serstabele

Oh and BTW greston I got to see what you said before you edited your post...nice stuff

I will end up restricting the thread participants if this starts to look like another II cluster F***

Sorry I rped a realistic attack and Ryou's opinion is completely worthless to me...and if you keep filling the thread with pointless banter Leistung I will simply ban you from participation in the rp and have the mods delete your posts in it...only warning Im going to give

You can't ban anyone from this thread, more so than you can say it is semi-closed when you didn't TG me in advance or at least told me about it. And bullcrap about being on the regional forums, I don't check it cause it doesn't matter to me, the last time I was on it was yesterday when I posted on the C-box.

If Ryou noticed it is a god mode it is more than likely so, you can't basically land in one post without any of this crap. I can easily ignore and the most problems I would get is from you and Asch, both people I'd rather not RP with when the first thing they do is accuse me of god moding and spying BEFORE I EVEN POSTED.

And furthermore, Asch how can you blame the god damn Haven thing on me when number one, they have been threatening the Med before I joined it. I'm guessing that it is my fault that the month I moved in Gholgoth was threatening you, too.

Hell, if it wasn't me Haven would still be on your asses but I talked to them and they'd rather not invade us. So keep the crappy accusations low since none of them make much sense.
1010102
01-08-2008, 20:35
Gres, just stick to the plan. Ignore it.
Gataway
01-08-2008, 20:35
Um you can have their posts deleted and such...in effect they'd be banned from the thread...and again all your doing is complaining....even after I said losses would come after your post..you seem mad because you cant simply destroy everything and make me take 90% losses or something....
Gataway
01-08-2008, 20:40
Sorry you can't rp realistically

and since you wish to continue whining and moaning Im just going to have the mods delete both threads and ignore your nations exsistance outright
New Greston
01-08-2008, 20:43
No, I am mad because I wake up and see shit like this. They won't be banned from the thread because this wasn't organized, what so ever. I may be mad because I am being blamed for a war Haven declared on us because they were bored. I am mad because I am getting accused of spying, god moding, and a ton of other crap I haven't done.

On the other hand, everyone I know who has seen this is urging me to ignore it. Even Hataria thinks it is has a lot of god mode in it and thinks I should ignore.

So maybe I might as well just do that.

Don't expect an IC post unless it is me firing the ignore cannon.

EDIT: Just read your lasts post. In fact that is the perfect idea! I never liked you what so ever and I am glad to see that you are so arrogant and pissed off that you can't handle it when people point out your flaws.
Akimonad
01-08-2008, 20:44
Um you can have their posts deleted and such...in effect they'd be banned from the thread...and again all your doing is complaining....even after I said losses would come after your post..you seem mad because you cant simply destroy everything and make me take 90% losses or something....

That's not how it works. You don't know just what emplacements he has in his colony, ergo you cannot post anything doing any damage.

I thought you would've known this, though.
New Greston
01-08-2008, 20:49
Sorry Aki, Gat seems to have the patience of a three year old and wouldn't know so.
Waldenburg 2
01-08-2008, 20:49
I can see where both sides are coming from, if I have this right. I don't think Gataway wants his post to be taken entirely literally, but more as the favorable and possible outcome, on which to be modified. If I may proposes a theory; no godmodding has taken place, except perhaps in the literary and very technical terms, which we can't really do anything about anyway (IE the sun is shining, no it's my country it isn't ect.)

I would ask you to reconsider Gataway, on the deletion of the thread, for the Rp's sake, and at least allow one post in his defense. Maybe he has something brilliant, which you did not account for, or perhaps he will be taken entirely by surprise. Greston has not in fact responded yet, and we don't know what happens when at all yet. Perhaps if we allow just a few more posts before we rush off?

Probably too late for the voice of reason.
Gataway
01-08-2008, 20:52
lol This isn't D&D....

there is no way with the number of forces already deployed that greston would have been able to ward off such an attack..and take little or no damage like he wants....

And rping realistically makes me arrogant...if I was like that I would have simply nuked you with ICBM's and the like and not even bothered with landing anything...

nice flamebating btw Akimond...

and nice flamebating from you too Greston
Leistung
01-08-2008, 21:19
My post is not a god mode..

Gres already deployed chunks of his military to other areas outside the region..the island I attacked is well within range of long range land based strike craft and wouldn't take a long time to arrive.

Nor where any of my forces expected..in addition a large portion of them utilize stealth technology...

As asch stated deployments and mobilizations were made public for greston to see on the regional forums...Im not going to post the fact that I moved a fighter squadron in II as that would be pointless spam...

I am going to take losses...on all fronts...and as you can see I didn't post anything involving my naval forces apart from cruise missle strikes....although from reading other threads a lot of greston's navy is already out of the region so realistically I shouldn't have much to worry about especially off the small island archipelago of serstabele

Oh and BTW greston I got to see what you said before you edited your post...nice stuff

I will end up restricting the thread participants if this starts to look like another II cluster F***

Sorry I rped a realistic attack and Ryou's opinion is completely worthless to me...and if you keep filling the thread with pointless banter Leistung I will simply ban you from participation in the rp and have the mods delete your posts in it...only warning Im going to give

What the hell? I said one thing! I hardly call that pointless banter...
Gataway
01-08-2008, 21:24
I even left the damage taken open for greston's interpretation and we could have come to an agreement on my losses...yet im a god modding arrogant baby...yes indeed...
Leistung
01-08-2008, 21:26
I think you're going about this in the wrong way. Just start a new war thread, but inform Greston first! If you break down your posts and let Greston respond, this could be a really good RP.
Aschenhyrst
01-08-2008, 21:28
There's no regional feud, as Haven lacks any sort of complete unity.

Now shut up about it. It's done and over and it's becoming increasingly annoying to hear about.

Honestly Aki, we should have let you nuke him to hell and back when we had the chance. Hindsight is 20/20. And I became aware of the lack of unity in Haven a few days ago, how do you guys still manage to intimidate everyone? Nevermind, my quarrel is not with you this time and it wasn`t last time. I`m after the instigator.

And RBI: If you closely read the "open declaration" part of my post I believe your situation may be covered there. It is not our intention to be the NS world police, but we are intent on cleaning up our little corner of it.
1010102
01-08-2008, 21:28
Sorry you can't rp realistically

and since you wish to continue whining and moaning Im just going to have the mods delete both threads and ignore your nations exsistance outright

The irony is killing me. Stop, please.
Lord Sumguy
01-08-2008, 21:30
Greston, get on MSN.
New Greston
01-08-2008, 21:35
Ok, I'm on it.
Aschenhyrst
01-08-2008, 21:41
And furthermore, Asch how can you blame the god damn Haven thing on me when number one, they have been threatening the Med before I joined it. I'm guessing that it is my fault that the month I moved in Gholgoth was threatening you, too.

Hell, if it wasn't me Haven would still be on your asses but I talked to them and they'd rather not invade us. So keep the crappy accusations low since none of them make much sense.


You had nothing to do with the Gholgoth incident.
However, if you continue to prance around the globe trying to throw your weight around...trouble will follow you home. Your campaign against LS is going to earn you the same type of enemies you`ve earned before. If we do not try to put a leash on you, it appears as if we endorse your actions and that is when every one comes knocking at the door wanting a piece of you.

Pearl Harbor and 9/11 were complete surprises as well.
Leistung
01-08-2008, 21:43
You had nothing to do with the Gholgoth incident.
However, if you continue to prance around the globe trying to throw your weight around...trouble will follow you home. Your campaign against LS is going to earn you the same type of enemies you`ve earned before. If we do not try to put a leash on you, it appears as if we endorse your actions and that is when every one comes knocking at the door wanting a piece of you.

Pearl Harbor and 9/11 were complete surprises as well.

Yeah, but in Pearl Harbor, at least the Japanese didn't invade and take Hawaii with zero resistance, then continue and mass troops off California without the US Navy noticing.

Still, lets try to keep this civil. RyanBrum already lodged a complaint with the mods.
Gataway
01-08-2008, 21:51
The irony is killing me. Stop, please.

Provide how my post is a god mod and where the irony is please..Id love to see it

My post wasn't a god mode

I left plenty room for you greston to
post up your defensive actions..based on the facts that
1. I had fighter escort
2. Used Stealth Planes in conjunction with planes capable of jamming up anti-air radar and radar sites
3. Sent my waves in rapid succession
4. Large chunk of Grestonian Military is already deployed

I would not take 100% casualties due to the facts listed above... thus bombs lexploding or paratroopers landing is not an insane or impossible step to take...did I say how many paratroopers landed? that they captured towns or that entire cities were whiped out? No I didn't .. I rped a few troopers landing and killing a small boy...there could have been only a handfull of troopers that made it to the ground in that area

I left the damage taken open greston's interpetation and would comment on damage taken oocily if needed

My losses would have come up after you posted defensive actions and we would have reached an agreeable % much the same as in taking damages


the whole operation could have very well ended up as a blunder for me even possibly but we didnt get that far because it went straight to "God Mod!" blah blah blah



I didnt take over anything...I rped a few troops landing no numbers no strength..nor did I rp marines landing and siezeing anything and a lot of the damage things I posted like "Massive payloads being dropped" doesnt mean that happened all over the land...sorry for being descriptive in my posts...
Yallak
02-08-2008, 01:09
Seriously guys, can we just stop the bickering now... its already degrading into OOC slander and has been pointless from the start.

Yes, Gataway didn't tell you about the attack but thats because it was a 'surprise attack' and the initial deployments were there for you to see Greston if you had checked the regional forums.

No, Gat probably shouldn't have described his bombs exploding because that is up to you to do but he was just being descriptive, no need to stop the whole RP for it. As i said earlier, simply post your defence and damage and retaliation, Gat's dedscription is purely that, an image of the attack to set the RP scene.

This has great potential, the possibility of plunging the whole region into civil war as well as interregional conflict, lets try to make something of it and be nice to each other. Please!
Aschenhyrst
03-08-2008, 04:00
Yeah, but in Pearl Harbor, at least the Japanese didn't invade and take Hawaii with zero resistance, then continue and mass troops off California without the US Navy noticing.

Still, lets try to keep this civil. RyanBrum already lodged a complaint with the mods.

Nowhere did I claim to take ground. My movements had been posted where he had access to view them, my intentions were not as open...ruins the element of surprise!
Bombs were dropped from Stealth aircraft operating from bases within rl strike range, cruise missles launched, military command and control structures targeted (kind of what one might do in a surprise attack !!!) fires and smoke were observed...not beyond the realm of reason is it? I left open the possiblity of some of my aircraft being shot down.

Ah, it matters little as the whole thing has died except for the bitch session. It was fun while it lasted.


Sorry about the late post.......I no more than get started and end up having to go to work, I come back and miss so much. Probably why I don`t rp much outside my region, things are a little slower paced.
Kargucagstan
03-08-2008, 21:31
Not to hijack the thread, but...

I may be mad because I am being blamed for a war Haven declared on us because they were bored.

Well, as I recall the reason we invaded the Med is because you tried to reclaim one of Akimonad's colonies. Something like that. Truth be told, though, we were pretty bored.

Honestly Aki, we should have let you nuke him to hell and back when we had the chance. Hindsight is 20/20. And I became aware of the lack of unity in Haven a few days ago, how do you guys still manage to intimidate everyone?

Haven is a region, not an alliance. We are split into many different political blocks, such as the Nuclear Commonwealth, the Kingston Pact, the United Socialist Republics, the New Alliance Treaty Organization, etc. In fact, we are all engaged in a process of tearing each other's throats out (see the thread "Too Pure an Air" and the other related subthreads). The fact is, though, that if anyone attacks a Haven nation, the entire region will naturally unite to brutalize them. Haven watches out for Haven, first and foremost.
New Greston
03-08-2008, 21:35
Actually that was British Londinium, you attacked me because you were bored.
Kargucagstan
03-08-2008, 21:42
Not quite. I just spoke to some of the other people who invaded and the reason we invaded was because Greston tried to take back a colony it had given to Nova Pictavia. Akimonad happened to be an ally of Picts, as well as having colonies in BL and a few other places IIRC. Aki also just happened to be Nuclear Commonwealth, which brought myself and the rest of Haven along.
Aschenhyrst
04-08-2008, 18:49
Not to hijack the thread, but...



Well, as I recall the reason we invaded the Med is because you tried to reclaim one of Akimonad's colonies. Something like that. Truth be told, though, we were pretty bored.



Haven is a region, not an alliance. We are split into many different political blocks, such as the Nuclear Commonwealth, the Kingston Pact, the United Socialist Republics, the New Alliance Treaty Organization, etc. In fact, we are all engaged in a process of tearing each other's throats out (see the thread "Too Pure an Air" and the other related subthreads). The fact is, though, that if anyone attacks a Haven nation, the entire region will naturally unite to brutalize them. Haven watches out for Haven, first and foremost.

Ah, you engage in the family-type squabbles but let an outsider try to get in on the fun and then it`s blood-thicker-than-water time. Now I`m getting the big picture.