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OOC:

Update:
Participants:
Shenyang
Oseato
Sniper Country.
Free United States


Cascade State (no show)
Chernobyl-Pripyat (withdrawn)
Falkasia (withdrawn)
Chernobl (dropped)
Jimzraway (dropped)
Lynion (dropped)

ALL SLOTS FILLED

I'm expecting to start IC Tuesday/Wednesday...

A recent thread on militaries reminded me of a long ago and far away fun thread - the SF War Games.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=289969

I'm willing to sponsor another round of them, if there's any interest.

The format would be:

3-10 nations

1 team of squad/section size (max. 16 men) per nation

3-5 assorted SOF type missions to be RPed

Each nation will post an After Action Report/Debrief after each mission.

When the AARs are posted, I'll post an overall point judgement on a scale TBA.

The team with the highest points at the end will take home the trophy.

Sign up here if you're interested. I'm looking to start next week...

Bump...

By SF do you mean Special Forces?

Indeed so.

Hmmm. I may be interested. My SF soldiers are know for their...inventiveness.

Anyone else?

I may be interested. What type "missions" are we talking about?

You've got me, I've wanted to do something like this for a while but you beat me to it.

I'll give it a go

sounds cool il do it

I may be interested. What type "missions" are we talking about?

At a minimum, 1 SR, 1 DA, and 1 CSAR, and possibly a CT and/or another DA or two.

Looks like we have: Falkasia, Shenyang, Cascade State, and Chernobl, with a maybe from Sniper Country.

Participants will give it a go. I'll leave this open for a couple more days for more interest. Lets say 5 more slots.

Okay, maybe I've been away from NS for too long, or my "retarded military acronym decoder" isn't working tonight.

SR? DA? CT? I know CSAR.

this is MT, right? i'm interested



And if we have to use RL SF groups, dibs on GRU Spetsnaz

Cool, I'd like to sign up..now, who should I choose...? Marine Recon? Spetsnaz...? PJs?

Oh, and anyone else here remember the show Combat Missions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN6JqnP1xJY)?

SR, DA, and CSAR, no idea. I believe CT stands for Counter-Terror, like hostage rescues or Rainbow 6 style missions.

What the hell, I'm in.

Also, I think that,
SR-Standard Reconnaissance
CSAR-Combat Search And Rescue
And no idea what DA is...maybe Damage Assessment?

SR, DA, and CSAR, no idea. I believe CT stands for Counter-Terror, like hostage rescues or Rainbow 6 style missions.

SR=Special Reconnaissance [SR] includes a wide variety of information-gathering activities of strategic or operational significance.

DA=Direct Action [DA] operations are short-duration strikes and other small-scale offensive operations principally taken by SOF to seize, destroy, capture, recover, or inflict damage on designated personnel or materiel.

CT=Counterterrorism [CT] is a highly specialized, resource-intensive mission. Certain SOF units maintain a high state of readiness to conduct CT operations and possess a full range of CT capabilities. Theater combatant commanders maintain designated CT contingency forces to respond to CT situations when national assets are not immediately available.

CSAR=Combat Search And Rescue (sorta self-explanatory)

*taken from globalsecurity.org, btw

YaH! I got CT right!

And... thank you so much.

YaH! I got CT right!

[pats your shoulder]

also, this is for Shenyang, I'm having a couple of 'old friends' in mind for this RP...hehe

So... when is all this going to be figured out? Is there a grading system, or are winners going to be chosen randomly (gay), or what? Rules, regs, etc.?

No idea.

So, anyone decided on force size, and equipment yet? I think I have a pretty good idea of what I'm going to do...

First post says Max: 16 men. As far as equipment, haven't heard anything yet.

I'll do it with the Lynion Assassin's. its a branch off the special forces section in Lynion. They do assassination, counter-terrorist, protection, recon, search-and-rescue, bodyguard escorts and on the ground against enemy soldiers.

Yes, Max is 16 men...but I think that's a bit much, for a SF team. I mean, 7 or 8 is even kind of big. I think I'm going to have 7 though. Maybe 8, depending on whether or not I want a slightly more specialized force or not.

I'm using 12, since that's the base size of SCAF units.

Hmmmmmmm.

I'll probably deploy a team of 12, but divide those up into three teams of 4.

Meh, it'll depend on the mission. Won't give away our team setup, but we should have all of our bases covered, unless somebody throws in sharks with laserbeams attached to their heads. Oh wait, we've got that covered too.

I'll be going with a conservative number of 6. Two each from Marine Recon, Spetsnaz and AFSOC. I couldn't make up my mind, so...

Could be dangerous, taking two men from three different units. Each unit having their own styles and techniques of combat, then suddenly mixing them together... Same reason Rangers in Iraq hate being teamed up with SEALs.

Could be dangerous, taking two men from three different units. Each unit having their own styles and techniques of combat, then suddenly mixing them together... Same reason Rangers in Iraq hate being teamed up with SEALs.

SEALs hate it too. I mean, babysitting sucks, j/k

No arguments here. I think Rangers are idiots. But SEALs are pre-madonnas, so it's a fair trade I guess.

I think 8 Spetsnaz operatives is more then enough, with the proper equipment.

Still, I mean, They're Seals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWUwEG9YX3M)

I still have my reservations with SEALs, which I won't discuss here and now - this is for this little SF wargame thingy.

nananananananana[batman theme] SPETSNAZ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPENlpEh8PY)!

Any of you seen what Spetsnaz do in their free time?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J2IB2TDCOs&NR=1

should we post our personnel here, or in the ic forum? 'cause, honestly, i already have my team set up...

I'm too tired to do anything tonight.

But the Marines (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ5Az8pHeZs&NR=1) have this.

Cya guys. I'm going to bed.

Okay, maybe I've been away from NS for too long, or my "retarded military acronym decoder" isn't working tonight.

SR? DA? CT? I know CSAR.

Already answered. :)

this is MT, right? i'm interested

And if we have to use RL SF groups, dibs on GRU Spetsnaz

Yes, it's MT. No it's not RL SOFs - it's your nations SOF units. (If you want to call your nations participating unit SF, GRU, Spetznatz, Jagerkommando, or girl scout troop 328, I don't especially care. :))

Cool, I'd like to sign up..
What the hell, I'm in.

7th and 8th slots.

What about me? I forgot to add I'm only sending 8 troops or two squads of four into the competition.

Just to reiterate the gist:

The format (will) be:

3-10 nations

1 team of squad/section size (max. 16 men) per nation

3-5 assorted SOF type missions to be RPed

Each nation will post an After Action Report/Debrief after each mission.

When the AARs are posted, I'll post an overall point judgement on a scale TBA.

The team with the highest points at the end will take home the trophy.

Sign up here if you're interested. I'm looking to start next week...

Since there is lots of tinterest, here's how I expect it to play out.

The start will be the arrivals of your nation's teams in Daistallia. You'll post team rosters - names (or noms de guerre), specialties, standard loads and weaponry. The more believable your team is, the more I'll award RP points for. (Character building intra team chatter FTW!)

After the teams arrive, you'll get an overall briefing for the wargames scenario, followed by a breifing for the first mission. (This will most likely be posted around Wednesday.)

After the briefing, you'll RP your teams run on the mission. Please check this thread if you aren't familiar with the original SF wargames: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=289969. The missions should go along those lines.

Then you'll post an After Action Report/breif back - you'll tell us what you did right and what you did wrong. Remember that Mr. Murphy is expected to be along for the ride - "we went in executed the plan picture perfect, achieved all objectives, and made no mistakes at all." will be seen as hinkey.

After everyone has run the mission and reported back, I'll score everyone's run. Realism and RP will count.

The cycle should be 48 hours per mission.

should we post our personnel here, or in the ic forum? 'cause, honestly, i already have my team set up...

Wait for the IC thread. :)

Anybody else have questions?

Am I allowed to compete in the war games? I've already have a good idea whose in the team and what weapons each person has.

What about me? I forgot to add I'm only sending 8 troops or two squads of four into the competition.

My apologies! Slot 9 goes to you.

1 slot left.

BTW, you can expect at least one mission in alpine terrain and one in jungle. The Daistallian Defense Forces will be the acting OpFor, and there will be members of Daistallian SOFs, including the JagerKommandos, participating. You''ll be expected to RP interaction with the OpFor realistically - walking over the JagerKommandos as if they were Iraqi conscripts is a quick way to loose points. ;)

Also, participants will be using a MILES like system.

Am I allowed to compete in the war games? I've already have a good idea whose in the team and what weapons each person has.

Yep, yep, no worries.

And somewhere I miscounted the participants... Two more slots open.

When can we expect an IC thread, for planning purposes?

When you have the IC thread up, can you post a link here?

When can we expect an IC thread, for planning purposes?

After the teams arrive, you'll get an overall briefing for the wargames scenario, followed by a breifing for the first mission. (This will most likely be posted around Wednesday.)

;)

When you have the IC thread up, can you post a link here?

Of course. :)

Danke.

yep, i'm interested

F.U.S., you're going to make me search through every thread I ever posted in to find out who you're sending. HUNDREDS of pages of text and THOUSANDS of posts. Thanks a lot. :P

Care to give me a hint via TG?

Shenyang will be sending 'SSOCOM 9th S.O.Div. 13th S.O.U. Squad 1 (Teams Able/Team Bravo)' Known more commonly as the "Operational Detachment Shock Troops' or 'ODST'.

Squad 1 is comprised of 8 members, pulled from across the Shenyangi military, with the SMC (Shenyangi Marine Corps) disproportionately represented.

Team Able:
Squad & Team Lead / CQB Specialist / Intel Specialist
Support Gunner / Medic
Sniper / Technology Specialist
Support Gunner / Demolitions

Team Bravo:
Team Lead / Support Gunner
Sniper / Medic
Demolitions / Operations Specialist
CQB Specialist / Intel Specialist

I don't think we're disclosing our team make-ups yet.

It doesn't matter to me, it's been fixed since I adjusted the team about 6 months ago. Anyone that's seem me RP them knows the rough team make up.

Ok, just making sure. Collecting intel on my opponents.

Prepare to eat my Paintballs!!! :mp5: :mp5:

Is there still a space open, I would like to participate.

Indeed there is Oseato.

forgot me >.<

Collect all the intel you wish, it won't help you. No one can help you now! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

What are the limitations on equipment? Are PMT folks allowed to participate?

F.U.S., you're going to make me search through every thread I ever posted in to find out who you're sending. HUNDREDS of pages of text and THOUSANDS of posts. Thanks a lot. :P

Care to give me a hint via TG?

Shenyang will be sending 'SSOCOM 9th S.O.Div. 13th S.O.U. Squad 1 (Teams Able/Team Bravo)' Known more commonly as the "Operational Detachment Shock Troops' or 'ODST'.

Squad 1 is comprised of 8 members, pulled from across the Shenyangi military, with the SMC (Shenyangi Marine Corps) disproportionately represented.

Team Able:
Squad & Team Lead / CQB Specialist / Intel Specialist
Support Gunner / Medic
Sniper / Technology Specialist
Support Gunner / Demolitions

Team Bravo:
Team Lead / Support Gunner
Sniper / Medic
Demolitions / Operations Specialist
CQB Specialist / Intel Specialist

oh, sorry shen. i sent you a tg, btw...

I would think that it would give them an unfair advantage, but that's me.

forgot me >.<

Doh! I knew I'd miscounted!

Collect all the intel you wish, it won't help you. No one can help you now! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

This is indeed so. You will all be running the missions against the DDF OpFor, not against each other, so it doesn't much matter what you know about the other teams. (Now, a smart player may do a bit of digging to find intel on the DDF...)

What are the limitations on equipment? Are PMT folks allowed to participate?

It's MT (I'll be using my old military stats.) And sorry, the last slot's been filled. :(

It's MT (I'll be using my old military stats.)

And where might those be found?

I searched, and it'll be pretty difficult if we don't have any info to work from, too many posts to sort through to find anything of use.

Don't worry, you'll get all the intel you need. It'll all be in the scenario background and the individual mission OpOrds.

So... I'm guessing right now we're just sitting and waiting for Wednesday?

...i think so, SC...
also, how're we gonna be inserted? will we be provided transports, or can we bring in our own Special Aviation Regiments...?

Also, would the pilot/crews add to the number of personnel in said rp?

I guess I'll spend the rest of the time waiting on building bios for my guys.

I think insert should be up to us. Some spec ops are more covert than others, and thusly prefer one insertion method to another.

Zip-lines and gas grenades!

So... I'm guessing right now we're just sitting and waiting for Wednesday?

Waiting for me to finish up the scenario and 1st OpOrd.

...i think so, SC...
also, how're we gonna be inserted? will we be provided transports, or can we bring in our own Special Aviation Regiments...?

Also, would the pilot/crews add to the number of personnel in said rp?

Assests such as transportion and will be provided.

I think insert should be up to us. Some spec ops are more covert than others, and thusly prefer one insertion method to another.

The scenario will basically be set in the context of a larger Blue/Red wargame in which your teams will a set of missions designed to simulate wartime conditions. In that light, just as in wartime, assests such as transportation may be limited. The specific mission scenario will provide transport. However, latitude in how you make use of what's provided is fine. If your team comes up with a plan that accomplishes your goal within the givens, great.

See the last one for an example of how this will work. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=289969

Nogova River? Sounds like Operation: Flashpoint too me.

Otherwise, can't wait to start. Oh, and I assume there is no live ammunition per say.

Nogova River? Sounds like Operation: Flashpoint too me.

Heh. :)

Otherwise, can't wait to start. Oh, and I assume there is no live ammunition per say.

Luckily for ya'll I'm home sick today instead of working. Bleah! Bad chicken's no fun at all.

And yeah, I think I already mentioned that a MILES like system will be used.

Can you please refresh my memory on what a MILES system is again?

Oh, and I'm more of an Arma fan than OFP.

MILES... Meh, would it be alright if my guys used a system similar to MILES? It's called AIMES (and I forget what it stands for... I'll have to find it somewhere). But basically, it's the MILES except it's not so bulky that they have to wear a kevlar, and instead of an annoying buzz going off, it sends a high voltage electrical pulse through the user, temprarily paralyzing them for roughly 15-20 minutes.

Well electrical pulses aren't very fun. They can cause permanent damage you know!

We did R&D on the system back in RL 2003. No, I don't have the Docs anymore, but let's just say that the kinks were worked out.

I'd prefer it if my guys weren't zapped.

MILES 2 can simulate wounds, correct? or is that a different system? I think it'd be interesting to see my PJs get to utilize their life-saving skills as well...

MILES... Meh, would it be alright if my guys used a system similar to MILES? It's called AIMES (and I forget what it stands for... I'll have to find it somewhere). But basically, it's the MILES except it's not so bulky that they have to wear a kevlar, and instead of an annoying buzz going off, it sends a high voltage electrical pulse through the user, temprarily paralyzing them for roughly 15-20 minutes.

Nope. As I've said, the missions will be runj with the DDF as the OpFor, so the DDF system will be used.

I have the base scenario and the AO maps ready, so I'll go ahead and open the thread for the main event. Feel free to RP your teams arrivals in Daistallia. I'll post a link momentarily.

Here it is: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13895614

Feel free to post your rosters and teams arrivals. The first mission briefing will be in 48-56 hours.

Uh, I'll post it here since I don't like posting OOC stuff in IC threads, but the little briefing thing seems a little incomplete. Di, if you would read it in the IC thread, you'll see what I mean. We have no clue what exactly the situation between Red and Blue is, at all, as far as I can tell.

That's just a brief background and intro. You'll get more info on the exact situation tomorrow at the briefing.

"...Blue Land captured the province, and has controlled it for 35 years.

Three years ago of a large oil field in the Purple Province, renweing the dispute over the province.."

Makes zero sense... to me, anyway...

"...Blue Land captured the province, and has controlled it for 35 years.

Three years ago of a large oil field in the Purple Province, renweing the dispute over the province.."

Makes zero sense... to me, anyway...

Doh! I did a quick rewrite of the background and that gat messd up. Sorry.! Fixing.

I think it means that Blue Land captured the province 35 years ago and has held onto it and recently (3 years ago) a large amount of oil was found in the province sparking renewed dispute over the territory by Red Land and Blue land.

Yes it does. Use a little common sense. Renweing= Renewing?

I think it means that Blue Land captured the province 35 years ago and has held onto it and recently (3 years ago) a large amount of oil was found in the province sparking renewed dispute over the territory by Red Land and Blue land.

Exactly.

"...Blue Land captured the province, and has controlled it for 35 years.

Three years ago of a large oil field in the Purple Province, renweing the dispute over the province.."

Makes zero sense... to me, anyway...

Well, by using context clues, I was able to discern;

"Three years ago, a large oilfield was discovered in Purple Province, renewing the dispute over the province..."

Makes sense to me.

Okay... I apologize for my inability to formulate my own conclusions.

It happens to the best of us. Not to worry.

Yes it does. Use a little common sense. Renweing= Renewing?

As I tell my students, even Engrish teachers make mistakes. :wink:

And no worries, SC.

Cascade State and Jimzraway, it's possible I missed you, but you haven't arrived yet.

And just for everyone's info I'm off to work now, but from 9:05 Japan time I'll be on two weeks summer holidays, the reason I'm planning to get the show on the road tomorrow.

Meh... Dai, I'm an Engrish major. We make no mistakes.

of course you don't lol. Might I join??? I realize it's filled, but it looks like it would be fun. I've only been a part of two fights, first falling apart because the guy did nothing, the second falling apart because I was the main part, and my computer was messing up. Please???

OOC: What type of mission is this?

OOC: What type of mission is this?

The details for the scenario and the warning order for the first mission are up now.

For everyones information, here's how I'll grade yor missions:

Each mission will be graded on a 50 point scale.

The running of the mission itself will be worth a maximum 30 points - 5 points for how well you plan it, 5 points for your insertion, 10 points for your execution, 5 points for your exfiltration, and 5 points for your after action report.

You'll also be graded on your realism and how well you play into the parameters (10 points) and RP (10 points).

In addition, I may award upto 5 special points per scenario for extras such as RPing taking a casualty and the like, to encourache realistic RP.

Note on casualties: Feel free to take casualties, as I'll award you RP points because it's realistic to do so. But note that "WIA"s will sit out one mission and "KIA"s will sit out two missions.

I don't know if it's just me or what... But where on these maps is Ca Lu? Unless I'm supposed to use context clues and figure out that we're actually talking about Cam Lo.

Also, am I to assume that each team is operating independently of the others, in that, we won't have any contact with them or hear/see their actions and the repurcussions thereof? The way it's laid out, we're all in there at the same time, operating the same mission.

So am I right in assuming that the white box with the blue x on the second map is the location of the camp?

Hmmm... anyone know what happened to Sniper Country?

Also, I'll extend the time for mission 1 another 24 hours.

Um... Nothing's happened to me?

Whoa, why am I a guest?

test..

One more test.

Um... Nothing's happened to me?

Indeed it appears so. Wonder what's up w/ the guest deally bop...

I don't know if it's just me or what... But where on these maps is Ca Lu? Unless I'm supposed to use context clues and figure out that we're actually talking about Cam Lo.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Daistallia/sofwg/rlblmap.jpg
Ca Lu is right below the big red marker for Hwy 9.

Also, am I to assume that each team is operating independently of the others, in that, we won't have any contact with them or hear/see their actions and the repurcussions thereof? The way it's laid out, we're all in there at the same time, operating the same mission.

Yep everybody posts their runs the missions independently, separately, and w/o interacting with the other teams. . You are all doing it at "the same time" just in parallel, as if the missions took place in alternate realities.

And as participants seem to be having some trouble with what to do, once again I'll point to the examples of the 2nd one: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=289969

Look over how those mission were done. I would like to see the planning sessions and AAR's RPed as well, but those will give you the basic idea.

ok, but that's not really what i meant. i know how to rp an assault/recon/etc. the question is, "Is the timeline 24 hours, or are we to wait 24 hours before the assault is to commence?"

Just a bit of info on snipers from a question on the IC thread.

ooc: ok, a question in semantics. I assume the briefing means we have 24 hours to complete the mission, not 24 hours of simply sitting around reconing. or is that what you meant?

Remember that sniping missions are as much about scouting as sniping.

Introduction

The mission of the Scout/Sniper is to shoot high value targets with his rifle or fire support assets and to gather and report timely and accurate information.

A sniper must be patient and may not always have a good target to shoot. A good sniper may decide not to engage a low value target that would give his position away so that he can wait for a better one, even if that takes a couple of days.

He always has the opportunity to gather and report information of high value to his unit.

The S/S is the eyes, ears, and trigger finger of the Commander; and a smart CDR doesn't show his hand until the crucial moment. Without good information, he can't determine when or where that crucial moment will be.
http://www.snipercountry.com/Training/InfoGathering_SS.htm

Don't consider the mission parameters to be "simply sitting around reconing" (sic). The recon element is as important as the sniping/arty strike will be. You must pinpoint the HHC. Is it actually in the suspoected grid square? If so, at what exact coordinates? If not, where is it? Is it actually a regimental HQ or another unit? What are they doing? Who's there?

Making all those observations accurately and safely takes time.

ok, but that's not really what i meant. i know how to rp an assault/recon/etc. the question is, "Is the timeline 24 hours, or are we to wait 24 hours before the assault is to commence?"

The timeline should be:
You will insert between 2200 and 0030 hours tonight (August 6) into an LZ of your choosing.
You will make your way to the target area and recon the target for 24 hours.
By no later than 0030 August 8, you will take out assigned targets via either sniper fire, indirect fire support, or a combination of the two.
You will exfiltrate by 0600 August 8.
You will debrief and provide an AAR by 1800 August 8.

The flight and drop off should take at least an hour or more.
Infil to the target site and set up of the OP should be complete by daylight.
Watch whats going on and make notes. See the link to snipercountry.com above for suggestions.
You should be taking down the position during the timeframe of your artillery support (between 1600 Aug 7 and 0400 Aug 8) and with enough time to make your pick up.

It doesn't have to be exactly 24 hours, that's a general time frame.

OOC: Will you post a link once Mission 1 is up?

OOC: Will you post a link once Mission 1 is up?

Mission 1 is up. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13902308&postcount=60

Um, I'll still post everything by tomorrow (I hope), even with my account acting screwy. I've got one of the Jolt guys working on it now, so hopefully it'll be fixed soon.

A three day SpecOps mission, including preparation and AAR is no short post...

The timeline should be:


The flight and drop off should take at least an hour or more.
Infil to the target site and set up of the OP should be complete by daylight.
Watch whats going on and make notes. See the link to snipercountry.com above for suggestions.
You should be taking down the position during the timeframe of your artillery support (between 1600 Aug 7 and 0400 Aug 8) and with enough time to make your pick up.

It doesn't have to be exactly 24 hours, that's a general time frame.

thanks, just wanted to be absolutely sure. "To ask when you know the answer is politeness; to ask when you do not know is the rule."

I'll post tomorrow, before 6 pm CDT...as SC said, it'll take a while, and jolt's crap-out yesterday didn't help.

I'll try to post as soon as I can.

thanks, just wanted to be absolutely sure. "To ask when you know the answer is politeness; to ask when you do not know is the rule."

I'll post tomorrow, before 6 pm CDT...as SC said, it'll take a while, and jolt's crap-out yesterday didn't help.

No worries. :wink:

And yes, the OMAC down time was a killer.

Just so to make sure everyone is aware, the RL timeframe's been pushed back. If we need, it can be extended further.

Regarding the data you were asking for SC, for convenience sake I didn't post the whole TOEs above, just the link to the OrBat. Here're specific links for the AA div. (http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/daistallia/military/army/divisions/aad.html) and reg. (http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/daistallia/military/army/regiments/aar.html), and the mech div. (http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/daistallia/military/army/divisions/mid.html) The regemental armored recon platoon listed uses bothe recon vehicles you'll find at the link below.

As for small arms and vehicle specs, those can be found here: http://daistallia2104.angelfire.com/DMI/DMI.html

And the map symbol was indeed approximate.

And Falkasia, no worries if you have to back out.

Also, Dai, would I be safe in assuming that the HHC is a standard HHC, and therefore roughly 100 troops? And the security company being roughly 150-200?

[Of course, for my troop's planning knowledge, as this is what they would normally think of when hearing HHC and security company.]

The HQ staff + support platoon is official 95 men on the TOE. There will probably be other elements around as well, transport, QM, and so on.

The rifle company TOE looks like this:
Rifle Company (190 men), with:
1 Headquarters (10 men)
4 Rifle Platoons (45 men), with:
HQ Section (5 men)
1 Mortar squad (4 men, 1 60mm mortar)
3 Squads (12 men each).
Composition/Squad weapons:
1 MG-1
2 BR-2 Rifles
9 AR-2b Rifles

You're pretty much spot on. With various casualties and attatchments, the numbers should be roughly 100 + 200.

Got it, thanks. I'll have the planning post up within... about an hour.

Well run op SC, even if you did have to partially abort - you located the position and acheived partial success. Now if the rest of those who are remaining in will run theirs...

Yeah, I know...I've been very busy. I swear it'll be on by today...

No worries. I'll extend the RL deadlines anothe 24 hours.

Yea, I apologize, but I'm going to have to drop out. Come Monday, my life is about it get a hell of a lot hectic. I'll RP a mdeical emergency or something.

No worries Falkasia. Chernobyl-Pripyat has also let me know he's droping out because he may be called up in response to the Russia/Georgia/S. Ossetia conflict. Ironic to drop an RP wargame to go off to fight a war. Let's keep him in our thoughts.

Yea. Thanks for your understanding.

OK, by my count, we have 3 drop outs, 1 no-show, 2 who'vw run the op, and 4 who haven't posted the first op. I'll extend the deadline 24 hours, and then consider anyone who hasn't posted a no show for the op and go to the second one.

I'm currently on vacation, having a bit of difficulty holding an internet connection, but I'll post later today.

If there are spots open, might I join?

I'm currently on vacation, having a bit of difficulty holding an internet connection, but I'll post later today.

Ah, no worries.

If there are spots open, might I join?

Sorry, it's already underway.

No problem. Sorry for asking, it's just the other RPs are slow right now.

No problem. Sorry for asking, it's just the other RPs are slow right now.

I'll keep you in mind for the next one. :-)

Alright then. Maybe I could be the military that they are practicing against?

Alright then. Maybe I could be the military that they are practicing against?

Heh. That's not how it works. :wink:

So are "scores" going to be posted for the first match after it's all done, or will there be an overall AAR, or do we wait in suspense until all the missions are complete?

So are "scores" going to be posted for the first match after it's all done, or will there be an overall AAR, or do we wait in suspense until all the missions are complete?

I'll post an overall AAR and the scores after I get home tonight (in about 12-14 hours).

Note for those who haven't withdrawn and haven't run their missions yet - you'll be counted as a scrubbed mission if you don't post by then.

Edit: Shenyang, Chernobl, Jimzraway, Lynion this means you. ;)

Muah? I was away this weekend, the mission/AAR are up.

Scores are up.

I'll put up the next briefing as soon as I finish it up, definitely in the next 24 hours.

Scores are up.

I'll put up the next briefing as soon as I finish it up, definitely in the next 24 hours.

so, wasn't it supposed to be three missions? doesn't that mean my kia is out for the rest of the competition?

It'll be three to five missions. And yep, he'll be out two, but can come back for the last two.

ill have to bail out because im falling behind. sorry guys

It'll be three to five missions. And yep, he'll be out two, but can come back for the last two.

couldn't you have told us that before we killed off our ppl? :P

I did tell you before. The points system was a direct copy from this post (typo and all)..

The details for the scenario and the warning order for the first mission are up now.

For everyones information, here's how I'll grade yor missions:

Each mission will be graded on a 50 point scale.

The running of the mission itself will be worth a maximum 30 points - 5 points for how well you plan it, 5 points for your insertion, 10 points for your execution, 5 points for your exfiltration, and 5 points for your after action report.

You'll also be graded on your realism and how well you play into the parameters (10 points) and RP (10 points).

In addition, I may award upto 5 special points per scenario for extras such as RPing taking a casualty and the like, to encourache realistic RP.

Note on casualties: Feel free to take casualties, as I'll award you RP points because it's realistic to do so. But note that "WIA"s will sit out one mission and "KIA"s will sit out two missions.

I did tell you before. The points system was a direct copy from this post (typo and all)..

oh, my bad, lol. besides, i meant it mainly as a joke...the gunny won't be happy, though...

oh, my bad, lol. besides, i meant it mainly as a joke...the gunny won't be happy, though...


No worries. :)

ok, so...you gave us a bunch of maps, which one exactly is the tactical map? is it the one w/ the red circle(that's supposed to denote the crash site, right?)?

other questions i will reserve for ic briefing.

ok, so...you gave us a bunch of maps, which one exactly is the tactical map? is it the one w/ the red circle(that's supposed to denote the crash site, right?)?

other questions i will reserve for ic briefing.

There are three maps. The largest scale one, with the arrows and lines, is an overview of the OA. The middle scale, with the insertion point and crash site marked as dots, is one is the operational. And the smallest scale map is the tactical. The one with the crash circled in red is just a portion of the tactical.

BTW, this one's lifted straight from a real life op. 1st one to ID the op will get a special point. :-)

Is it Bat 21...?

Oh, i see it now...it was like...4 am when i first read it. i guess i was tired, lol.

Is it Bat 21...?

Oh, i see it now...it was like...4 am when i first read it. i guess i was tired, lol.

Indeed. Lt Thomas R. Norris recieved the CMoH for his actions in Quang Tri Province 1972.

woot! [holds hands out for prize]

that was made into a movie, right?

are u a mil. history major or something?

ps: also, plz reply to my chars. question. thanks.

woot! [holds hands out for prize]

You're gonna need it.

Sorry, I couldn't help it.

at least i didn't have to abort part of the mission...and accomplished it with a casualty.

Exactly. We aborted the mission and STILL dominated!

Ha, I'm just messing, man.

i still don't get how u accomplished that...

Various comments:

The situation around opal is very fluid. Feel free to RP it how you like, but the OpFor should be strong. This should be a stealth mission.

No, I'm not a military history major - just an interested person.

I liked SC's op because Mr. Murphy was along for the ride and he played the OpFor well. The rest of you can do the same. :D

i still don't get how u accomplished that...

He played it well. As the old combat trusim says "No plan survives initial contact." SC's op took that into account.

Should all the OPs fail or abort? Heck no! But no Op should bgo down pcture perfect...

And remember that SC's wasn't perfect either. ;)

I'm down for this.

I'll probably post my operation either tonight or tomorrow. Definitely by tomorrow evening.

OK, it's been a few days and we haven't had any posts. I'll give ya'll another 24 hours or so, then put up the scores and mission 3.

My guys are going to have to go ahead and scrub this mission, simply because I don't currently have time to come up and create the whole OP right now. But they'll still be in the games, and participate as much as possible.

My guys are going to have to go ahead and scrub this mission, simply because I don't currently have time to come up and create the whole OP right now. But they'll still be in the games, and participate as much as possible.

Well, dang.

This just went so much slower than the last set did. I was planning to be able to get all the missions done in 15 days, my holiday period, but now that I'm back to work I don't have the time to dedicate to it. :(

Thanks to all those who participated.