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Storm of Iron (OOC, Sign up)

Volzgrad
28-07-2008, 15:13
OOC: I ain't given up yet. This is an offsite RP sign up so please don't lock this. To stop confusion, here's the list of weapons (http://www.ironstorm.com/weapons.html). To not infringe on copyrights, this RP is only based on Iron Storm. Several things are different compared to the game.

Map: http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll43/Vulture_77/ISMap.png

Key:
Orange- Russo-Mongolian Empire
Green- USWE
Black- United Commonwealth of Oceania

After some thought (and generous help from the web) I have come to the conclusion that no one has ever done a alternate history WW1. Thus, I would like to put forth the general idea of Iron Storm into an RP. The basic summary is an alternate history WW1 where the combined forces of Russian and Mongolia battle Western Europe and America in 1964. While trench warfare is still prevalent, assault rifles, submachineguns, helicopters, tanks, rockets, and gas are all used. The main lore it below.

The game is set in an alternate 1964, in which the Great War never ended. The Baron Nikolai Alexsandrovich von Ugenberg seized Mongolia in 1921 in an uprising following the Russian Revolution, and later invaded Russia itself to crush the Bolsheviks. His plan was to establish a Russo-Mongolian Empire stretching from the Pacific Ocean to the Atlantic. With the help of the United States, the Allied nations of Europe were reformed as the United States of Western Europe, or the Alliance, in 1933 to counter Ugenberg's plan.

Instead of the Great War ending in 1918, it was continued for almost half a century, with the battlelines drawn down Europe's center in 1929 shifting little for either side for the next several decades. As the USWE could no longer independently contribute to the war, the Alliance army was introduced into the American stock market, allowing private investors to speculate on the lives of the soldiers who carried on the war. The outcome of the war now depended almost entirely on the economy of the Alliance's member nations.

Factions

Russo-Mongolian Empire

Flag: http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll43/Vulture_77/Russo-MongolianEmpire.png

The Russo-Mongolian Empire has its roots in the Russian October Revolution. After the Bolsheviks executed the Tsar and his family, the Baron Ugenburg, at the time already in control of Mongolia, took command of the White Russians and crushed the Bolsheviks with help from Kazakhstan. Within a few years, Ugenburg and his army stabilized Russia and absorbed the failing German Empire, bringing WWI to a standstill. Allied with Japan's Emperor Hirohito, Ugenburg also invaded China and allowed Japan to occupy Manchuria in 1941.

Despite the assassination of Baron Ugenburg, RME forces are just as determined as before. Only three days after his death, Field Marshal Gregarious Kabanov was appointed as Emperor. With almost all of Eurasia under their control, the RME has a massive manpower pool and has some of the most advanced technology in the world. Russo-Mongolian Imperial troops specialize in siege and defensive warfare. In revenge of Ugenburg's death, RME forces have launched a massive offensive against both USWE and UCO forces.

RME Nations

Russia- Volzgrad
Mongolia
Kazakhstan
East Germany
East Austria-Hungary
Japan (includes Manchuria)- Red Tide2
China
Italy (Southern)
Finland
Afghanistan

United States of Western Europe

Flag: http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll43/Vulture_77/USWE.png

The United States of Western Europe was formed in 1933 to combat the Russo-Mongolian Empire. Consisting of most western-European nations as well as parts of Germany and Austria-Hungary, the USWE was supported economically and militarily by the United States and Great Britain. USWE combat doctrine focuses heavily on offensive action, which usually involves large masses of poorly armored but fast tanks, helicopters, and infantry.

A classified mission was undertaken by USWE forces to assassinate the Russo-Mongolian Emperor Ugenburg and destroy a secret weapon being developed in the 1960s. The operation was a success, but did not end the war as a new emperor was installed by the Russo-Mongolian government shortly afterwards.

USWE Nations

USA - Greal
Canada - Sarahani
Britain - Greston
France
West Germany
West Austria/Hungary
Serbia
Spain
Italy (Northern)
Norway
Sweden - Alfegos
Saudi Arabia

The United Commonwealth of Oceania

During the early days of the war, Australia was one of the founding members of the Allies. However, 50 years of brutal warfare against Japan and her allies turned the Australian people bitter and discontent. Public outcry against the war and the inefficient allies reached a critical point during the summer of 1962. The Australian Military soon declared mutiny and refused to fight any longer. After a almost bloodless coup d'etat, Australia and her islands became known as the Commonwealth of Oceania. UCO troops specialize in guerrilla and naval warfare.

Filled with patriotic fervor, the Commonwealth stunned the world by declaring war against both the USWE and the Russo-Mongolian Empire. Any resistance from USWE allied islands nearby were soon crushed by the surprisingly powerful Oceanian military. Despite the recent political change in the Pacific, battles are just as bloody and ruthless as they were 50 years ago.

UCO Nations

Australia
New Zeeland - Hurtful Thoughts
Various Islands around Australia - Lynion


Any critique or comments?
Imperial isa
28-07-2008, 15:23
falls under Alternate History Threads rule
Volzgrad
28-07-2008, 15:31
This is meant to be an offsite RP. Hence, the "sign up" in the title.
Imperial isa
28-07-2008, 15:36
This is meant to be an offsite RP. Hence, the "sign up" in the title.

no you never said it's off site and just using sign up in the title don't cover it, as it all so used in titles for signing up for NS threads like this one http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=561285
Lynion
28-07-2008, 15:38
I'll play alongside the United Commonwealth of Oceania as my own nation if you don't mind. If worse comes to worse, I can take control of the Commonwealth itself and make Lynion fold into Oceania itself.
Volzgrad
28-07-2008, 15:39
I'll play alongside the United Commonwealth of Oceania as my own nation if you don't mind. If worse comes to worse, I can take control of the Commonwealth itself and make Lynion fold into Oceania itself.

Sounds good. I guess you'll go under the "random islands" section.
Imperial isa
28-07-2008, 15:40
you be using the wepaons from out of the game?
Volzgrad
28-07-2008, 15:42
you be using the wepaons from out of the game?

Mostly yes, I'll add a few weapons of my own creation.

For anyone who doesn't know Iron Storm, here's the list of weapons (http://www.ironstorm.com/weapons.html).
Imperial isa
28-07-2008, 15:47
Mostly yes, I'll add a few weapons of my own creation.

For anyone who doesn't know Iron Storm, here's the list of weapons (http://www.ironstorm.com/weapons.html).

Sabre was not in the PS2 copy of the game so thats new to me, may it was replaced by the minigun
Volzgrad
28-07-2008, 15:49
Sabre was not in the PS2 copy of the game so thats new to me, may it was replaced by the minigun

Really? I remember there being an entire mission based around using the sabre in the PC version.
Lynion
28-07-2008, 15:54
Wouldn't it be better if we used 1964 weapons?
Imperial isa
28-07-2008, 15:55
Really? I remember there being an entire mission based around using the sabre in the PC version.

must of shorten the PS2 game an taken it out as well as adding some new weapons
Volzgrad
28-07-2008, 15:58
Wouldn't it be better if we used 1964 weapons?

It wouldn't really be that different. The assault rifle is pretty much a chunkier AK-47. I guess you could though.
Lynion
28-07-2008, 15:59
Do we need to be perfectly the same weapon from the game to the RPG? No, just similiar.
Volzgrad
28-07-2008, 16:00
Do we need to be perfectly the same weapon from the game to the RPG? No, just similiar.

You can use RL weapons from 1964.
Volzgrad
28-07-2008, 18:30
bumpage
Volzgrad
28-07-2008, 21:22
bumpage
Volzgrad
29-07-2008, 00:53
bump. Damn these boards move fast.
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 00:58
I'll do it, but i'd rather be a general rather than a whole nation, bossed by another player, yknow. It's a perpetual war roleplay, there should be a few generals.
Volzgrad
29-07-2008, 00:59
Sounds good. You'll have to at least pick a nationality though, it makes things much easier to organize if I know what side your on.
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 01:01
USWE, If we get 1964 vehicles, that'd be great, i could use all my favorite vehicles from a blitzkrieg Retail Mod called the day after (i think it's a free gametap game, you folks should try it)

Are the armies still broken, or are they a unified armed forces?
Volzgrad
29-07-2008, 01:05
After 50 years of war, the three alliances are almost unified nations. All troops in the armies of the various alliances are one unified force. I'll assign you as Britain if that's fine with you.
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 01:09
Kay. Centurion tanks are my favorite.
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 01:35
Bumptacular!
Volzgrad
29-07-2008, 01:36
Bumptacular!

Lol, thanks.
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 01:39
No problem, I suppose from now on i'll use small talk instead of actual bumps.

When do you suppose the forum will be ready?
New Greston
29-07-2008, 01:40
Canz I be the United Kingdom? Or should I say Britain?
Volzgrad
29-07-2008, 01:42
No problem, I suppose from now on i'll use small talk instead of actual bumps.

When do you suppose the forum will be ready?

I'm waiting for a few more people before I start this up. To Greston, yes you can be Britain since Sarahani is just a general.
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 01:42
*prays for limited naval control*
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 01:58
Bumpopolis
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 02:28
Will we have jet aircraft and such?
Volzgrad
29-07-2008, 03:12
Primitive jets (MIG-15, Sabers, etc.) yes.
Volzgrad
29-07-2008, 04:07
bumptastic
Volzgrad
29-07-2008, 05:00
bumpsplosion
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 13:23
Bumpaloosa!
Greal
29-07-2008, 13:30
I wouldn't mind being Germany or "America".
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 13:33
Pick one
Greal
29-07-2008, 13:52
America it is.
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 14:07
We should have aircraft like the ones in Strike Fighters: Project 1, The barely-mach generation of aircraft (F-100 Super Sabre, A-4 Skyhawk, F-8 Crusader, A-7 Corsairs, F-104 Starfighters, Etc.)
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 14:59
Bumped
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 16:43
Bumpapalooza
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 17:21
Achievement Unlocked: Bump Whore.
Volzgrad
29-07-2008, 17:29
Achievement Unlocked: Bump Whore.

:D I guess your my "bump machine"
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 17:56
Indeed, I just played the demo of the game, that is one tough MotherF*cker. I like the design though
Volzgrad
29-07-2008, 17:58
Indeed, I just played the demo of the game, that is one tough MotherF*cker. I like the design though

The snipers are almost unnaturally accurate in Iron Storm.
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 18:02
Snipers are scarier than the joker from the new batman
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 18:22
Achievement Unlocked: Sh*tty Small Talk
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 18:52
BUMPTASTIC!

Why don't some people join so i can stop doing this every fifteen minutes?
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 18:59
Please?
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 19:55
Please! PLEASE!

(Achievement Unlocked: Whiny Baby)
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 20:45
Bump For the last darned time
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 21:25
fine, one more time
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 22:44
Bump. Hope you make the forum soon Volz
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 23:05
Bump, Jeebis, you people post lot.
Sarahani
29-07-2008, 23:35
Bump. Please, sign up before i become crippled by typing.
Sarahani
30-07-2008, 00:18
Bump. This thread is faster than rush hour 3
Sarahani
30-07-2008, 00:41
I've officially managed to make a page worth of posts by the same person, without it being a factbook

(Achievement unlocked: Post Whore)
Sarahani
30-07-2008, 02:45
Bump because it must be done
Hurtful Thoughts
30-07-2008, 05:21
K, I'll believe, that due to utterly crippled worldwide economy that all weapons will be 'clunky', and that the margins of the performance are not going to be laid in stone (only comparative at best), and that due to war that these things are built like a lump of solid steel.

Erm... the CSRG M1915 wasn't quite that... but yeah, let's say they refined the bugs a bit and found work arounds over the past 50 years like they did IRL... But I wouldn't be surprised if calibers became "streamlined" to light pistol/SMG, heavy SMG/Assault Rifle, and Rifle/MG cartridges plus "WW1 relics" (but lets not get into actual calibers, and just say each country uses a different set with no commonality, m'kay?), and for everything else, there's jellied gasoline...

And then there's the slight nagging historical innaccuracy that japan was against the allies... But meh, maybe they all just got fed up with fighting someone else's war... and now opt for a more conventional means of Mutually Assured Destruction? Erm, Wut?
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All that said, I'll take assistant dibbs on Oceania if the other fellow doesn't mind.
(New Zeeland?)
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And dooooood, cool it wit teh bumpage... you may make the mod's eyes bleed...
And they don't like that.
Plus you're reminding me of Antigr...
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Oh, right, what about "odd weapons" like Pellet-rifles (air-guns, .50 caliber sticks of silent death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgdfMa8caNg))?
Sarahani
30-07-2008, 12:23
Erm....

Did anyone understand what he said?
Lynion
30-07-2008, 13:05
I think I did....just....
Hurtful Thoughts
30-07-2008, 17:31
Erm....

Did anyone understand what he said?
Short Response:

You mean the CSRG ref confused you?
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPFu_ZlQ6yg) Kind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFbw9dCFsjU) of Stuff (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91TcJ5iTNe8)

Plus, weapons used would represent the kind of combat it's used in.


Long Response:

Long range gun in confines of a trench? Or would you rather have a shotgun? Would body armor save you at that close of a range? From grenades? Incindiaries? Would you use silent weapons during opening stages of advance/infiltration/raids, or the most powerful? How would the enemy counter them? When attacking a fortified position, what weapon would you use in a confined space, what about in the open? Do these weapons have to be easily portable, or simply reliable and deadly?

If tanks were meant to counter trenches, and they failed more often than not, would they still have been considered worth using?

What role would jet fighters play? Is there an effective means of shooting them down? How much armor would an helicopter have?

If a helicopter can fly over a trench and deploy troops in the rear, why are the lines still stable?

IIRC, the game explains all this dysymetry by stating that the technology and tactics used are being manipulated in the west in an effort to needlessly prolong the war into a true war of attrition/legalized genocide. While the East is barely keeping pace (IE, dude, if they can send a "lone gunman" into enemy territory like that, couldn't they all just steamroll right over them if they wanted, or does America want Mutual destruction of both factions in Europe in order to more easily conquer the world?
Hence the nuke-race, and the mission to run into the east in order to delay the Ruskies, meat-grind your allies in human-waves, then nuke the enemy and roll through the civvies as liberators.

The East is tired of fighting, but they know what's at stake if they wave the white flag, utter genocide; thus, so long as the west holds-back just enough, then they'll be content to continue fighting until the bitter end.

Oceania, concievably, would be a group of former-west nations that saw this "plan", and are all in favor of ending the war at the source, in America, but good old propoganda paints them as the bad guys on all sides, the consortium has better economy (continuing to improve weapons), the Mongols have numbers and logistics. However, Oceania doesn't have policies geared towards prolonging the war, and has at least some of the west's technology, so they could steamroll a good ways into Mongolia in an effort to bring them to the negotiating table OR they can fight a losing battle against the consortium.

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Other:
I also don't see how this'd fall under "alternate history", it's based on a video game...