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OOC: There is a difference between .223 and 5.56x45mm NATO. The 5.56x45mm has far less less killing power than other rounds and was a very bad choice for NATO standard use. Use something larger, such as the 6.5mm Grendel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5_Grendel) or [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.8_SPC"]6.8 mm Remington SPC[/URL.

OOC: There is a difference between .223 and 5.56x45mm NATO. The 5.56x45mm has far less less killing power than other rounds and was a very bad choice for NATO standard use. Use something larger, such as the 6.5mm Grendel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5_Grendel) or [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.8_SPC"]6.8 mm Remington SPC[/URL.
OOC: Now you've got me confused. I didn't use the 5.56x45mm NATO, you said there was a difference between the two, and you said the 5.56x45mm NATO was a bad choice, despite me not using it. Care to explain?

OOC: Now you've got me confused. I didn't use the 5.56x45mm NATO, you said there was a difference between the two, and you said the 5.56x45mm NATO was a bad choice, despite me not using it. Care to explain?

OOC: .223 Remmington=5.56x45mm NATO

Only major difference is barrel pressure.

OOC: .223 Remmington=5.56x45mm NATO

Only major difference is barrel pressure.

OOC:I'll try to remember that for the GUR-V6.

OOC:I'll try to remember that for the GUR-V6.

OOC: Its called the "edit button".

OOC: Its called the "edit button".
OOC: I know that.

ooc an the Effective range is ?

ooc an the Effective range is ?

{OOC: Accurate to 570, I would assume that's the effective range.}

ooc an the Effective range is ?

*Ahem*

Range(Accurate to): 570 yards

{OOC: Accurate to 570, I would assume that's the effective range.}
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oh yards not yards

the long awaited GUR-V5? lol.

But seriously, this is a bad rifle. I'm telling you, man, go post your designs on the draftroom, improve the quality of your weapons just like one would improve. As it stands, the quality of your weapons is about on par with the quality of Ryou's posts.

Even though I personally consider the M16 rifle an affront to all that is good in the world, this rifle is worse than it.

the long awaited GUR-V5? lol.

But seriously, this is a bad rifle. I'm telling you, man, go post your designs on the draftroom, improve the quality of your weapons just like one would improve. As it stands, the quality of your weapons is about on par with the quality of Ryou's posts.

Even though I personally consider the M16 rifle an affront to all that is good in the world, this rifle is worse than it.
OOC: That might be YOUR problem then. I based this (Partially) on the M16. But no, there is no way I'm ever going to the NSD.

*Ahem*
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don't ahem me i see yard i think of this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_yard) an not a unit of measurement.

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don't ahem me i see yard i think of this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_yard) an not a unit of measurement.

OOC: I see :D.

OOC: God, what's your problem with the NSD? Everyone has some lame excuse. And why in the hell would you base a gun off the M16? That's like basing a fictional MP3 player on the Zune 1 (sorry, couldn't think of a better metaphor that everyone wouldn't disagree with).

OOC: God, what's your problem with the NSD? Everyone has some lame excuse.

OOC: I just like to throw a little whimsy into my stuff. If someone wants to have their weapon designs reviewed by a bunch of realists, go ahead. If I want to make a gun that shoots shurikans and lightning, let me.:D

OOC: I just like to throw a little whimsy into my stuff. If someone wants to have their weapon designs reviewed by a bunch of realists, go ahead. If I want to make a gun that shoots shurikans and lightning, let me.:D

OOC: And if you want to have a gun that just isn't good?

OOC: I just like to throw a little whimsy into my stuff. If someone wants to have their weapon designs reviewed by a bunch of realists, go ahead. If I want to make a gun that shoots shurikans and lightning, let me.:D

It's not whimsy you are adding, it's a couple things that might get me banned for flaming, but it's certainly not whimsy.

Like I said before, in another post you ignored, there are better ways to be whimsical. Making your rifle useless isn't. And the reason that I urge you to join nsd is because the "whimsy" you are adding, compared to the actual creative, imaginative stuff that other people on NSD can use is like comparing a child's stick figure to the mona lisa.

There are many, many more ways to be whimsical that actually allow you to make a realistic design. And because it is actually creative, imaginative, but also realistic, it's got something that you've utterly failed to include in your designs. Quality.

Edit: It's not that your guns aren't realistic. You can totally make a gun like this. The problem is that doing so is just stupid. It's not creative, and it's not imaginative, it's no better than pissing in a glass and calling it vintage wine.

If I want to make a gun that shoots shurikans and lightning, let me.

OOC: CM, have you ever played with a Rubik's cube?

Or with bouncy balls?

OOC: CM, have you ever played with a Rubik's cube?

Or with bouncy balls?

Ooooh! I know where this is going! =DDDDDDDDDDD

It's not whimsy you are adding, it's a couple things that might get me banned for flaming, but it's certainly not whimsy.

Like I said before, in another post you ignored, there are better ways to be whimsical. Making your rifle useless isn't. And the reason that I urge you to join nsd is because the "whimsy" you are adding, compared to the actual creative, imaginative stuff that other people on NSD can use is like comparing a child's stick figure to the mona lisa.

There are many, many more ways to be whimsical that actually allow you to make a realistic design. And because it is actually creative, imaginative, but also realistic, it's got something that you've utterly failed to include in your designs. Quality.

Edit: It's not that your guns aren't realistic. You can totally make a gun like this. The problem is that doing so is just stupid. It's not creative, and it's not imaginative, it's no better than pissing in a glass and calling it vintage wine.
OOC: Tell me what you like, I'm not changing this gun.
OOC: CM, have you ever played with a Rubik's cube?

Or with bouncy balls?
OOC: Yes... Why?
Ooooh! I know where this is going! =DDDDDDDDDDD
Ohhhh dear....

OOC: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

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whim·sy Audio Help /ˈʰwɪmzi, ˈwɪm-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hwim-zee, wim-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -sies. 1. capricious humor or disposition; extravagant, fanciful, or excessively playful expression: a play with lots of whimsy.
2. an odd or fanciful notion.
3. anything odd or fanciful; a product of playful or capricious fancy: a whimsy from an otherwise thoughtful writer.

It would be one thing if this gun could actually shoot shruikens and lightning, then we would know not to take this seriously. I'm sorry, but I don't see anything odd or fanciful whatsoever in this gun, unless you count the fact that it doesn't work (not that I know about guns, but Yanitaria does). It's based off the M16, for god's sake.

Please point out what about this gun is whimsical, because I'm not getting it.

OOC: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."



It would be one thing if this gun could actually shoot shruikens and lightning, then we would know not to take this seriously. I'm sorry, but I don't see anything odd or fanciful whatsoever in this gun, unless you count the fact that it doesn't work (not that I know about guns, but Yanitaria does). It's based off the M16, for god's sake.

Please point out what about this gun is whimsical, because I'm not getting it.

OOC: I'm SAYING if I wanted to, I could. I'm not saying this particular gun is whimsical. Why is it so hard to understand I don't want everything about this examined and rexamined by a bunch of people who have nothing better to do then stare at fictional guns and say "OH! That would work!" or "OH! That wouldn't work!"

OOC: I'm SAYING if I wanted to, I could. I'm not saying this particular gun is whimsical. Why is it so hard to understand I don't want everything about this examined and rexamined by a bunch of people who have nothing better to do then stare at fictional guns and say "OH! That would work!" or "OH! That wouldn't work!"

OOC: I admit it is difficult to understand why you are averse to the idea of ensuring a weapon (not intended to be fanciful) is actually plausible. Maybe I'll stop trying now.

Just leave him alone, no one is probably going to buy his guns, and if they do and try and use them in a war against, just say the truth... they don't work. And then laugh at them while you point your real guns at them. Work for me, but eh, I'm weird. :rolleyes:

ditch the burst features all together, increase the automatic RPM to at least 600

OOC: It's not that it doesn't work. As is, the gun is totally feasible. It's just useless. The right up is extremely vague, and what is there is poor quality, and tells nothing about the action.

I mean, come on, 200 rpm? That's a fucking joke.

CM, what you need to understand is that there is a way to actually add whimsy, AND be realistic, both of which you have failed at largely because I suspect you don't like being told you are wrong, and therefore will not bother to peer review your article or actually made a creative and even whimsical.

POUR EXAMPLE!

Izistan (and I know Confed might be pissed that I am going to tell him about this, when really, he should have the honour) made a bouncy ball grenade. Confed made a rubiks cube grenade.

And both of them were realistic. Izi even looked up the weight of the expolsive in order to calculate how much the damn thing would weigh! These are not only creative, they are just plain epic! They each had an actual right up with content!

I made a missile that lands and plays "Banana Phone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ4j-MBnLQo)" on a loud speaker, and sets itself on fire if you try to tamper with it.

And as I've told you before, HT is designing a steam powered plane! All of these things have two qualities that your designs lack, one of which you claim again and again you have. They are creative (himilay is correct, it's not whimsical), and realistic.

Because they have both, they are, essentially, an art form. What you are doing has no lasting value here, or in RPs. In order to become a better designer, and a better RPer, you need to, instead of spurning all advice, claiming that you are superior simply because you do not wish to advance your skills, you need to open up to criticism. Put your weapons out there for others to proof check, because you'll find that over all as you continue to design, you will be a lot happier with your work.