NationStates Jolt Archive


The United Socialist Defense Agreement [ATTN: Socialists]

Izhevskia
17-07-2008, 18:24
Vladimir Pyetrochev, the General Secretary of the CPPPRI, today announced his desire for the creation of one great, united socialist defense pact. We wish to guard ourselves and our fellow nations against the Imperialist nations that so constantly threaten us. We must remain strong so that we, the proletariat, can triumph over the Bourgeoisie!

Any interested nations may contact Cmde. Pyetrochev here in Izhevskia (OOC: By posting here) with their ideas for the pact, so that we may draft and ratify a constitution.
East Laos
17-07-2008, 18:35
Sure, we will join
Volzgrad
17-07-2008, 18:39
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Official Communique from the Volzgradien Government

We in Volzgrad will support this Defense Agreement to the end. However, may we point you to the Soviet Confederation (http://www.nationstates.net/33771/page=display_region/region=soviet_confederation)? We are a massive confederation of like minded socialists. Anyone can join so long as they are somewhat socialist (Marxist, Maoist, Leninist, etc.). Our region has been steadily growing for the last few years and you could be the newest members of our mighty Soviet Confederation.
East Laos
17-07-2008, 18:41
We are a socialist nation. And we have moved into your region.
Mioya
17-07-2008, 18:53
Mioya is not a socialist nation. Quite the opposite, really. However, we fully recognize the rights of any nation to hold a belief system of its own choosing, and also to act as it sees fit, within reasonable limits, to defend the system it chooses.

Having said that, we wish all nations participating in this alliance good luck, and we hope it proves to be unnecessary.

Respectfully,
Morys Tyrell, SecState, RoM
Volzgrad
17-07-2008, 18:56
OOC: Incredible. A non-Socialist nation who joins threads about Socialists and doesn't make death threats.
1010102
17-07-2008, 20:17
OOC: Incredible. A non-Socialist nation who joins threads about Socialists and doesn't make death threats.

OOC: Well, someone has to...

IC:

The Binarian Empire condems this collection of scum and some day soon, it will meet its end at the hands of Binarian soldiers, or through the bomb sights seen by the men and women of our air force.
Daiwiz
18-07-2008, 16:25
_______To all Great Socialist nations Currently involved in this pact

Comrades, we shall assist you, however we can. We wish to join this pact, great comrades, and if we should band together, we should swear to assist eachother in time of need, if we are able to. We will join this agreement, if you are willing to accept us. Currently, we are involved in a war for the safety of socialists, within East Congaree. This country has mudered many, many, Negroes, and Socialists alike, for apparently no reason! We have been forced into a war, as their allies have attacked us with nuclear weapons, and East Congaree has launched an invasion force! We are currently under attack, and request assistance. Some of the great Socialist nations here have come to our assistance, but we implore those that have not, please! Assist us in the fight for Socialism!

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow

OOC:We were nuked etc etc. I'm sorry for posting that last bit, but I figured it fit in quite nicely. If you want to assist us, then go to Freedom Party Outlaws Communism, which is created by EC. I'm getting creamed man! Also try to do your best to have as little GMing as possible.
Chernobyl-Pripyat
19-07-2008, 05:24
The SFR [Soviet Federal Republics] will observe this pact, and if it looks promising will join.





-Ministry of Foreign Affairs, SFR
1010102
19-07-2008, 05:44
Imperial Binarian Decree

As per the order of Emperor Gardar Arnarson, The United Socialist Defense Agreement is hereby disband, and all agreements made in its name are void. Any countiued recruiting or gatherings will be subject to firebombings without warning. We shall not differentiate between your millitary and the rest of your countries. It shall all be burned to the ground. You have been warned.

Emperor Gardar Arnarson,
Ruler of the Binarian Empire and her Colonies and Vassals
Mioya
19-07-2008, 05:50
Imperial Binarian Decree

As per the order of Emperor Gardar Arnarson, The United Socialist Defense Agreement is hereby disband, and all agreements made in its name are void. Any countiued recruiting or gatherings will be subject to firebombings without warning. We shall not differentiate between your millitary and the rest of your countries. It shall all be burned to the ground. You have been warned.

Emperor Gardar Arnarson,
Ruler of the Binarian Empire and her Colonies and Vassals

Ham-handed barbarism is not the answer, Your Majesty. Diplomacy is still viable here. This organization will probably not move beyond a simple mutual defense pact. Acting as you are only gives rise to extremists.

If that isn't bad enough, you are making yourself look foolish by trying to disband an organization over which you have no lawful authority.

Respectfully,
Morys Tyrell, SecState, RoM
Volzgrad
19-07-2008, 05:52
OOC: You seem to be ignoring the fact that we could ignore you. Your threats are void if no one even acknowledges them.
1010102
19-07-2008, 06:06
OOC: You seem to be ignoring the fact that we could ignore you. Your threats are void if no one even acknowledges them.

OOC: Thats how RPing works. Its your choice really.

IC:

Dear Morys Tyrell, SecState, RoM,

Communism is a threat to all people, everywhere. If you let it gain a small foothold, it will spread like a cancer across all that happen upon it. Communists seek to destroy even you, simplely because you repersent what they call the "bourgeoisie". They see hard working men like you and me as evil men that seek to steal the poor man food and money. This group, while not truely communists, are socialists, a lesser form of evil, but evil none the less. Socialism isthe seed that sprouts the evil weeds of communism. Like a weed, if allowed to spread, it will choke and eventually kill all mankind. We deal with communism the same way we deal with weeds. We kill them were they has taken root. It is no different than maintaining a garden. And this is one very messy garden.

Emperor Gardar Arnarson,
Ruler of the Binarian Empire and her Colonies and Vassals
Zanski
19-07-2008, 09:59
Zanski would like to join this organization and orders the Binarian Empire to stop threatening the members of this pact.
Soviet Spain
19-07-2008, 10:12
(OOC: If I join with this puppet, my main nation will be in a really tough situation, but who am I to deny expectable IC behavior because of OOC interests?)

Encryption level: None

TO: Cmde. Pyetrochev, Izhevskia
FROM: Presidente Carlos Cavallo - República Popular Española - Partido Comunista Español
Subject: United Socialist Defense Agreement


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The People's Republic Spain is joyful to see a new alliance of paragons of true socialism to rise and deny all futile threats of imperialists who use ideology as a pretext for the purest savagery and exploitation in disrespect of all forms of national sovereignty, and is extremely interested in signing such alliance.

I will be open about it, there are strong reasons that motivate use to seek an alliance. We are currently in a state of war against the petit-bourgeois false socialists of the Confederacy of Third Spanish States, and through massed strikes, we have lost naval supremacy and any access route to receive foreign goods. We have a millions-strong army, but we are not self-sufficient in resources. However, I ask no one to come in support of our war effort, for the reason the we wish to join this alliance is the hope for a new Internationale to flourish. I hope that our relations can tighten further through a new era of Communism.


Carlos Cavallo
Presidente
Stoklomolvi
19-07-2008, 14:21
[OOC: There is no way to completely eradicate an ideology in a world with thousands of nations.]
Buddha C
19-07-2008, 15:06
[OOC: There is no way to completely eradicate an ideology in a world with thousands of nations.]

{OOC: That's debatable. :D}
New Greston
19-07-2008, 15:14
[OOC: There is no way to completely eradicate an ideology in a world with thousands of nations.]

OOC: But trying never hurts. Well at least it doesn't hurt us.......
Maldorians
19-07-2008, 15:26
OOC: Bin, get online please. I have a small question...
Faxanavia
19-07-2008, 15:31
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|From the Desk of the President of the League of Imperial Ocean-faring Nations|

To whom it may concern,

The League of Imperial Ocean-faring Nations does not, at this time, actively support the actions of League member Binaria in their quest to deal with this meeting of Socialists. However, we do not openly condemn the actions of Binaria either. Therefore, we stand neutral on this issue, but let this be a warning to any nation, socialist or otherwise, who should dare to cross the path of the Binarians- The League does not tolerate attacks on one of our own, and be assured that if such acts are committed, you shall feel the force of our combined might. Once again, let this be your first and final warning- you shall not cross the Binarians, lest you pay the price in human lives.

Respectfully yours,
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Garret Linsares
Prime Minister of the Promethian Republic of Faxanavia and her Associated Territories and President of the League of Imperial Ocean-faring Nations
Zanski
19-07-2008, 15:58
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|From the Desk of the President of the League of Imperial Ocean-faring Nations|

To whom it may concern,

The League of Imperial Ocean-faring Nations does not, at this time, actively support the actions of League member Binaria in their quest to deal with this meeting of Socialists. However, we do not openly condemn the actions of Binaria either. Therefore, we stand neutral on this issue, but let this be a warning to any nation, socialist or otherwise, who should dare to cross the path of the Binarians- The League does not tolerate attacks on one of our own, and be assured that if such acts are committed, you shall feel the force of our combined might. Once again, let this be your first and final warning- you shall not cross the Binarians, lest you pay the price in human lives.

Respectfully yours,
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Garret Linsares
Prime Minister of the Promethian Republic of Faxanavia and her Associated Territories and President of the League of Imperial Ocean-faring Nations
Zanski does not feel threatened by this previously unknown league and maintains its former defensive position on this issue, however we do hope this issue will blow over peacefully and are sure that a confrontation will not occur.
Pan-Arab Barronia
19-07-2008, 16:51
Zanski does not feel threatened by this previously unknown league and maintains its former defensive position on this issue, however we do hope this issue will blow over peacefully and are sure that a confrontation will not occur.

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Office of Telegraphics
52nd Floor
Diplomitas Building
New Misenae

Official League of Imperial Ocean-Faring Nations Statement

Then perhaps the Zanskians, who at this time are now under total embargo by the State in support of our Vetakan allies, should learn it, and learn what it can do.

We here in the Secretariat repeat the message from the Office of the President of the League - we do not tolerate attacks on our own ranks. You would be wise to note this, signatories of the USDA.

Yours,

Lord Commissioner Nigel Harvey
LION-Barronian Affairs Commissioner
Ministry of Concert
Maldorians
19-07-2008, 17:01
Official Mandalorian Statement

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The Mandalorian Empire condemns the actions of these rogue, commie states. A full-fledged member of the LION alliance, we are bound to defend our allies from maniacs such as the signatories of this....alliance. Any attack against Binaria will result in a declaration of war against The Mandalorian Empire. We will defend our allies to the end and we might even have a little fun killing commies. Do not tempt us; we love killing commies.
Zanski
19-07-2008, 17:30
Zanski has never threatened agression against Binaria or LION; However we will respond to any attacks made by any nation/body. This is just respecting the soveriegnity of the nations involved.

We kindly ask LION to back off now.
New Greston
19-07-2008, 17:54
Telegraphics Department of the Office of Mr. Michael Richardson

Dear Zansk Political Leader,

I feel the need to appluad your stupidity, sir. You so willingly state that you have, in the past, made no aggression towards the Empire of Binaria, yet merely hours ago you so forcefully said, "and orders the Binarian Empire to stop threatening the members of this pact." The said message was sent in a threatening manner and I cannot stop myself from laughing at you, because, for doing so you put the lives of every man, women, and child in your nation in danger.

Furthermore, the sovereignty of a pack of nation, joining themselves in hegemony, that wishes to establish military alliance pacts with each other only to attack and fight capitalists does not deserve to be respected.

Even more baffling than your continued push of ignorrance and arrogance towards our alliance is your wish to bring peace to this squablle. Never in the past have I witnessed you or your nation taking the peaceful option when it was in plain view and achievable easier than the war option. But yet you beligerents always chose war.

Back away from this pact and cease and desist to threaten, or even communicate, with LION assets. Else those assets will be used to desroy your own.

Yours truly,

The. Rt. Hon. Sir Michael Richardson
Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Imperial Republic of Greston
East Congaree
19-07-2008, 18:11
To: All Members of the United Socialist Defense Agreement

From: East Congaree Freedom Party


Ooh,ooh! I'm the head of state of a National Socialist nation and party may I join?

Sincerely blowing you away with Sarcasm,

East Congaree Freedom Party Chairman and East Congaree President- Reginald Deere
Yanitaria
19-07-2008, 18:27
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The statements made by the New Gresfordian government is entirely non-sensical. First of all, this agreement was entirely defensive in nature. These states, noting the need for protection against international bullys such as Binaria, simply want to ensure their sovereignty. Never has any of these nations mentioned the possibility of taking this alliance into the realm of offensive engagements.

Secondly, Binaria was the first to make a threat, and therefore the agressive party. Applying the logic behind Gresfordian statements to the parties that are actually guilty of their accusations, they should instead be protesting their ally.

In order to solve this situation before it spirals out of control, Yanitaria would be willing to moderate a civil discussion between both parties in order to avoid future bloodshed.
Zanski
19-07-2008, 19:16
To New Greston:
If we were to attack you, we would wipe out your whole nation before your buddies from KITTY or whatever swoop in to defend you. We beat Binaria once before in a military confrontation, and will not hesitate to do it again.
To Yanitaria:
You have the right idea, and we would attend such talks gladly.
Pan-Arab Barronia
19-07-2008, 19:24
To New Greston:
If we were to attack you, we would wipe out your whole nation before your buddies from KITTY or whatever swoop in to defend you. We beat Binaria once before in a military confrontation, and will not hesitate to do it again.
To Yanitaria:
You have the right idea, and we would attend such talks gladly.

From Magisteriate of Extra-Imperial Affairs
To The Zanskian Administration

Were you to attack our allies in Greston, we would not need to defend them. Your nation would be obliterated before the first of your troops made land.


From Magisteriate of Extra-Imperial Affairs, Ministry of Concert
To The Yanitarian Administration

Whilst we cannot promise civility from the communist dogs, we will undoubtedly be at these talks.
Faxanavia
19-07-2008, 20:00
To New Greston:
If we were to attack you, we would wipe out your whole nation before your buddies from KITTY or whatever swoop in to defend you. We beat Binaria once before in a military confrontation, and will not hesitate to do it again.
To Yanitaria:
You have the right idea, and we would attend such talks gladly.

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|From the Desk of the President of the League of Imperial Ocean-faring Nations|
To: Zanski

Dear sir,
Please consider your words before uttering them. Consider the might which you are threatening, and the means in which you threaten it. I must be clear- there will be no attack by LION without provocation by an opposing force. This is no threat, this is a warning- do not touch the League, nor any member. Doing so shall invoke the wrath of the League herself, something you would not wish to do. It would be unwise to attempt to cross the League, no matter how much you believe you could. I stress- there will be no LION attack unless it is provoked, but it is unwise to provoke an angry lion- you will end up on the losing end of that fight.

Respectfully yours,
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Garret Linsares
Prime Minister of the Promethian Republic of Faxanavia and her Associated Territories and President of the League of Imperial Ocean-faring Nations

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|From the Desk of the President of the League of Imperial Ocean-faring Nations|
To: Yanitaria

Dear sir,
We appreciate the offer, and will gladly attend such talks on the agreement of all sides. However, it would seem unnecessary at the moment. Should such meetings become necessary, we shall turn to you with due haste.

Respectfully yours,
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Garret Linsares
Prime Minister of the Promethian Republic of Faxanavia and her Associated Territories and President of the League of Imperial Ocean-faring Nations
Izhevskia
19-07-2008, 20:04
OOC: Lion, we are trying to discuss the creation of an alliance. You are off-topic and trolling our thread. We are going to ignore your threats and attacks.
Pan-Arab Barronia
19-07-2008, 20:16
OOC: Lion, we are trying to discuss the creation of an alliance. You are off-topic and trolling our thread. We are going to ignore your threats and attacks.

OOC:

1. Yes, we can see that. That's why we're here.
2. No, we're not. And no, we're not, again.
3. You can if you like, and it's your prerogative to do so, but seeing as this is entirely relevant, it doesn't exactly look good.

Now, if you'd sent an encrypted message to all communist nations we wouldn't know a thing about it. But you didn't, and now you've got anti-communists all over it, so really, you can't moan and flip out the IGNORE on it just because we're RPing what our nations would legitimately do.
Gibberish America
19-07-2008, 21:12
Can pro-socialist capitalists join?
1010102
20-07-2008, 01:50
To New Greston:
If we were to attack you, we would wipe out your whole nation before your buddies from KITTY or whatever swoop in to defend you. We beat Binaria once before in a military confrontation, and will not hesitate to do it again.
To Yanitaria:
You have the right idea, and we would attend such talks gladly.

OOC: You mean that NC crap? I ignored that and you because you claimed you have ultrasonicwhich isn't even a speed rating, its a frequency rating) transport planes and magically dropped several thousand men directly into the area ahead of my fleet.
Stoklomolvi
20-07-2008, 03:24
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Stoklomolvi Commissariat of State
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 0, Null Encryption
To: Imperial Republic of Greston
Subject: Communist Crusade

So, once more, we will treat you like the intelligent aubergines that you have shown yourselves to be many months ago. Just like your predecessors, your arguments are bland, unsupported, and as transparent as sheets of oily wax paper. While Yanitaria has already addressed the majority of the concerns, we cannot help but have some fun tearing your pitiful little argument into pieces. We would prefer you actually read what the communists were seeking before continuing.

First of all, how is Zanski being the aggressor when the first notion made by the Binarian "empire" denounced the pact and threatened to destroy it with its military? Ah, you're right, of course Zanski is being aggressive through defending. It makes perfect sense. A pack of communist nations wish to defend themselves from capitalists, and this is considered aggressive? What next? I make a communist alliance in which we only defend, and will you threaten to destroy us too? You can only try with your pitiful armies. What casus belli would you have? We were being "aggressive" and you were forced to stop us from spreading communism? Bah. The belligerents chose war? Tell us, tell the world, where the communists in question here chose war. Where? And how have the socialists even willingly communicated with the League of Ocean-faring Nations? Hmm? Your entire argument is stupid, unintelligent, and made of complete rubbish.

We are also disappointed in the previously most enlightened Maldorians for stooping to the same level of rubbish that the Grestonians have. What, has LION become nothing more than a landfill for worthless, grubby, greedy capitalists? Bugger off.

Regards,
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Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Commissar of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
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Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
[OOC: No OOC harm intended. Then again, it's so much rambling that no harm at all will come anyway.]
New Greston
20-07-2008, 03:36
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Stoklomolvi Commissariat of State
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 0, Null Encryption
To: Imperial Republic of Greston
Subject: Communist Crusade

So, once more, we will treat you like the intelligent aubergines that you have shown yourselves to be many months ago. Just like your predecessors, your arguments are bland, unsupported, and as transparent as sheets of oily wax paper. While Yanitaria has already addressed the majority of the concerns, we cannot help but have some fun tearing your pitiful little argument into pieces. We would prefer you actually read what the communists were seeking before continuing.

First of all, how is Zanski being the aggressor when the first notion made by the Binarian "empire" denounced the pact and threatened to destroy it with its military? Ah, you're right, of course Zanski is being aggressive through defending. It makes perfect sense. A pack of communist nations wish to defend themselves from capitalists, and this is considered aggressive? What next? I make a communist alliance in which we only defend, and will you threaten to destroy us too? You can only try with your pitiful armies. What casus belli would you have? We were being "aggressive" and you were forced to stop us from spreading communism? Bah. The belligerents chose war? Tell us, tell the world, where the communists in question here chose war. Where? And how have the socialists even willingly communicated with the League of Ocean-faring Nations? Hmm? Your entire argument is stupid, unintelligent, and made of complete rubbish.

We are also disappointed in the previously most enlightened Maldorians for stooping to the same level of rubbish that the Grestonians have. What, has LION become nothing more than a landfill for worthless, grubby, greedy capitalists? Bugger off.

Regards,
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Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Commissar of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
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Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
[OOC: No OOC harm intended. Then again, it's so much rambling that no harm at all will come anyway.]

OOC: You seem to be mistake, my message was encyrpted and to Zanski and Zanski alone. Also, I hope you know we are fine with this alliance, we just didn't like that Zanski threatened Fax after we said we were neutral.
Stoklomolvi
20-07-2008, 03:39
[OOC: You never said it was. You merely directed it towards Zanski; had you stated that you encrypted the message, I would not have replied. I assumed it was a message like mine; you directed it towards him, but it was unencrypted. Make it clear.]
New Greston
20-07-2008, 03:42
OOC: Very sorry for not saying so. But the way is what written obviously meant I was talking about Zanski. But anyway, I love you for being one of the few who actually notices my signiture.
Stoklomolvi
20-07-2008, 03:49
[OOC: Aw, damn. An opportunity missed. Criticising you was always fun for some reason... :P ]
New Greston
20-07-2008, 03:52
OOC: There is its perks. I enjoy threatening people a lot for some reason. :)
1010102
20-07-2008, 03:52
[OOC: Aw, damn. An opportunity missed. Criticising you was always fun for some reason... :P ]

OOC: What did you mean by

by the Binarian "empire" denounced

Whats with that?
Soviet-slavya
20-07-2008, 04:01
We, the CPRSS Would like to join your rain of socialist spread across the globe for the cause and the people.
Stoklomolvi
20-07-2008, 04:03
[OOC: My country scoffs at your empire, I guess.]
Rumanovia
20-07-2008, 09:58
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From: UNITED SOCIALIST STATES of RUMANOVIA
To: the comrades of Izhevskia

Dear comrades and friend of Izhevskia and from other friendly socialist states,
our strong socialist motherland is determinated to take part and realize this wonderful project proposed by the comrades of Izhevskia: it's a great necessity of socialist and progressive countries to defend their people and workers from the agressivity of imperialist and fascist states. So a United Socialist Defense Agreement will be a perfect way to create a strong union to defend our motherlands and revolutionary proletarian achievements.
We propose that in every capital of the members of this future alliance is built a palace: it will be the local headquarters of the alliance general.
Attending the Izhevskia agreement and the begin of realization of our purpouse, we send revolutionary greetings.
A great name for our agreement will be "The Red Armour" (in rumanovia is "Krasnù Scuderèsku").

The chief and responsable for the Minestry for International Affairs,
comrade Anastas L. Ryaskov
Myakka
20-07-2008, 10:10
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=561029

Perhaps the Socialists here can help these humble students succeed?
Perhaps the anti-Communists could help these students learn a thing or two about loyalty and respecting one's current government?
Andaras
20-07-2008, 10:38
The People's Republic of Andaras condemns this revisionist social-imperialist organization, and will refuse to participate in it.