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Fantasy World 3 / Return from the Darkness Beyond / OCC Sign Up Thread

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A Fantasy World is a type of imaginary world, part of a fictional universe used in fantasy novels and games. Typical worlds involve magic or magical abilities and usually a medieval theme. Some worlds may be a parallel realm or dimension tenuously connected to Earth via mystic gates or the world may have no reference to Earth at all.
Despite the use of magic or other fantastic elements such as dragons, the world is normally presented as one that would function normally, one in which people could actually live, making economic, historical, and ecological sense
Dungeons & Dragons, the first role-playing game, has created several detailed and commercially successful fantasy worlds (called "campaign settings"), with established and recognizable characters, locations, histories, and sociologies. The Forgotten Realms is perhaps the most extensively developed of these worlds. These elements of detail can be a large part of what attracts people to RPGs.( Wikipedia The Free Encyclopedia )

I Believe Fantasy and Science Fiction are both great genres. They let the author and reader explore strange worlds and endless possibilities. Cultures, relationships and science can be pushed to their limits to find out what things could have been like if the laws of nature were different. This world will be a mixture of both, it is a story of mankind nearly destroyed by destruction from the skies … ie … A Massive meteor broken into smaller metorites penetrate the atmosphere to pummel into the helpless world, triggering massive earthquakes, tidal-waves and storms beyond human comprehension, all reshaping the world. Mistaken for an attack, defensive systems of various nations were triggered. Their neighbors responded, adding more chaos and destruction to rain down from the sky. Some of these missiles are shotdown by orbiting weapons facilities. So not as much dust and smoke fill the skies, partially hiding the sun as the world shudders. High above in orbit one of the few remnants of post modern civilization remains in operational condition, but is cut off from the rest of the world at this time. The second is a secret underground government base where there is technology that can enable
someone to reach the space station in orbit. Like wise a new type of power has been born from this tragedy, magic has been returned to the world of men. Like humanoid phoenixes the survivors rise up from the ashes of the catastrophe, a new generation of people find themselves in a world they no longer recognize. Ravaged by an unbelievable disaster, the few that survived awaken in the ruins that was once there civilization. Scarred is the human race, but for how long? Are we sentenced to live in the rubble of this great tragedy? Only time will tell.

OK now if you are interested in becoming a member of this new World or Earth you will need to make a description of your character/s and there surroundings. I will play numerous NPC Characters that may be found anywhere on, under or above the planet surface. My main characters home is in the valley located in the center of the mountains of the large land mass. I call this valley, the Valley of Kormanthor. Within it is a large plain with a slightly smaller forrest at it's center. This is Kormanthor Forrest, at the center of this forrest is the City of Myth Essembra. As the Author of this new Earth, I claim control of it, you by joining agree to this.

IC Thread link: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13833280

The Main NPC Characters of Kormanthor Forrest & Myth Essembra

1. Princess Nava Amastacia - Human Mutant Amazon Warrior
http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/Earth349/princess%20nava.jpg
2. Aust Amakiir ( Also Known as the Ghost )-Male Winged Elf / Sorcerer & Rogue.
2b Nahlrie Driiquar Amakiir - Female Winged Elf / Sorceress, Wife of Aust & Mother of Cassae.
2c Cassae Driiquar- Teenaged Female Winged Elf / Sorceress in training.
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2d Qwia Amakiir - Female Sun Elf / Epic Level Sorceress that owns the Magic Shop and school in Myth Essembra.
3. Andúnë Carnesîr / Warrior; Mount: Gold Dragon
4. Garret Thomage - Male Ghostwise Halfling Ranger; Mount: Nightglider
5. Soveliss Nailo - Male Dwarf Rogue
6. Qilaqui Meliamne - Female Winged Elf / Wizardess /Seer
7. Gwenyth Netheri - Human Female / Master Sorceress / Avatar of the Goddess Mystra; Goddess of All Magic.
8. Woodland - Mutant Human Druid / Druid of Kormanthor Forrest
9. The Winged Riders ( Gold Dragons & Rocs ) Wing Cove
10. The Chosen ( Myth Essembra Security Force )
11. Vana Worthington -aka- Lady Cheeta
12. Amy Morningstar - Kormanthor Forest Fey Folk
13. Felica Thornbough - Wemic Fighter
14. Ielenia Xiloscient - Female Winged Elf / Sorceress & Spell Sword
15. Antinua Ilphukiir - Female Sun Elf / Cleric & Devine Agent
16. Thamior Meliamne - Strike Force Leader of the Chosen
17. Laucian Galanodel - High Level Strike Force Sorcerer
18. Verena MornBringer - High Level Monk & Archer
19. Thokk Shautha - High Level Satyr Archer
20. Rikka Thorngage - Female Winged Human / Mutant


The Main Characters the Space Station, Space ships, & Orbiting Weapons Platforms

1. Admiral Nicolle Chaffin
2. Charles Hicksonbaugh; Captain of the U.S.S. Metheril
3. Captain Monte Farrar; Captain of the U.S.S. Amastacia


The Main Characters the Moon Base

1. Admiral Gwendilynne Shultz


The Main Characters of Area 52 / Metheril Island

1. Senator Jessica Arrowood
2. Admiral Nate Arrowood
3. Representative Elizabeth Worthington
4. Governor Nikki Shultz
5. Allison Kuratola - Shadow Kat
6. Sheila Drexler - Civilian Administrator of Ocean City


Space Going Folk / Aliens

1. Cassie Amakiir- Long lost daughter of Qwia Amakiir who was accidentally transported to the Planet Seibe and transformed into a elven / siebling hybrid and raised by Seibling parents.
2. The Rael / High Tech humans that accidentally crash landed on Toril many years before the transit to this earth.


The Main Characters of Project Atlantis / Ocean City of the coast of Metheril Island

1. Kimberly Vallejo -aka- Lady Fish


The Oceantic Trench

1. Queen Sendenka ( Aquatrian ); Queen of the Ocean Depths
2. King Kensinka ( Aquatrian ); King of the Ocean Depths


The Magic of Myth Essembra


The Elven Armada, Man-O-War & Radiant Sky Ship's

http://www.spelljammer.org/npcs/ien/


Weapons and Spells

http://www.dndadventure.com/dnda_magic_items.html


Monsters Of Fantasy World

1. The Kloa -ti - Large HalfBlood Abomination; ( Author's Special )

Attacks: Poisoned Tail Barb, Claws and Bite; Body Wrap ( Most always fatal to humanoids ); Eye Rays: Charm Monster / Person, Disintegrate x 2,
Flesh to Stone.

Climate / Terrain: Dense Warm Forrest / Underground

Organization: Solitary, Pair, Gang ( 2-4 ), Troop ( 6 -13 )

Note: If you are travelling in Dense Warm Forrest or Underground Terrain and come across what seems to be statues of humanoids ... Beware!

2. Various Dragonkind: As in the DND Monster Manual I Corebook

3. The Dragconess: ( Author's Special ) , which sport a humanoid body, a dragons head, wings, tail, claws, and breath weapons.

4. The Roc: Large Birds that can be trained to carry riders; also found in one of the DND Monster Manual Corebooks.

5. The Wereula: A Wraith like being that changes the victims sex with her bite. ( Author's Special ) :eek:

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Character Creation Template


Name:
Age:
Physical Description:
Eyes:
Hair:
Powers:
Weaknesses:
Equipment:
Bio:
Location / Surroundings:

Note: This is a new beginning for the Fantasy World, it is twenty years later then where the remix left off and the Armegadethu & Tormatha have been defeated and a new improved space station orbits the world.


Fantasy World Three Members List:

Country / Character

1). Lee King / Lynion
2). Marionetonia / Marvel & Metal Man
3). Balrogga / Merc Group
4). [NS]Dastardly Stench / Ambassador Rechecht

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Name: Lee King
Age: 26
Physical Description: 6 foot 4 and extremely fit
Eyes: Hellish red colour
Hair: long black hair tied up into a short ponytail

Powers: Able to abosrb jumps of 30 meters, ability to change into a werewolf at will, able to have his second inner spirit emerged from his soul and out of his body, ability to live forever, enhanced eye sight, and able to use sonic-blast powers.

Weaknesses: Love, can die like a Human, has a split personality, sensitive to his homeland being mock and can't abosrb jumps above 35 meters.
Equipment: 1 high-powered pistol, one bayonet and two longswords

Bio: Lee King is the last of the guardians of his nation which was ripped apart by the fatal events, Lee intends to find the cause and demand an explaination from the person. In his past life, Lee was the champion in the martial arts and swordmanship. If he here's his homeland being mock, he demands an apoligy before he goes on which happens from time to time.

Location / Surroundings: Sitting on the peek of a hill over looking wide open plains, somewhere in Canada


OOC: Sorry, I made one slight change.

Welcome to Fantasy World Three Lynion, I wiil launch the IC Thread later today.

Thanks for that and could you leave me the thread address for the IC thread in here? Its because I have to go to bed soon and I might miss it when I wake up in the morning. My application has being slightly edited if you haven't noticed.

Thanks for that and could you leave me the thread address for the IC thread in here? Its because I have to go to bed soon and I might miss it when I wake up in the morning. My application has being slightly edited if you haven't noticed.


The IC Thread has been posted and you may start posting there now.


Here is the link:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13833280

Thanks for that and could you leave me the thread address for the IC thread in here? Its because I have to go to bed soon and I might miss it when I wake up in the morning. My application has being slightly edited if you haven't noticed.


Not a problem

May I reprise TMM?

Is it necessary to post his bio again?

I wish to sumbit a small merc group as my participation. You caon consider it a nation of about 20 people that is mobile if you want to think of it that way. It would allow me to be hired for gold by other players (IC reason to participate in events and motivation - getting paid).

Please let me know that you think. If you wish to talk to me about this you can when you see me on MSN.

May I reprise TMM?

Is it necessary to post his bio again?


Welcome Back Marionetonia

I wish to sumbit a small merc group as my participation. You caon consider it a nation of about 20 people that is mobile if you want to think of it that way. It would allow me to be hired for gold by other players (IC reason to participate in events and motivation - getting paid).

Please let me know that you think. If you wish to talk to me about this you can when you see me on MSN.



Welcome to Fantasy World Balrogga

thank you.

I will try to work on something but I have to work alot in the next couple days.

Thats cool

OOC: I hadda get myself involved in this. Sorry. Presumed that it was in Haven Cove. My bad.

Now...for my pennance...

P.S. Write the word, Kor, and I'll delete both these posts as if they never existed.
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Not to worry DS I assumed Lynion's post was in answer to my post, but I wasn't sure so it could be my bad. We will need to ask Lynion what his intension was when he wrote it.
However there is one thing I would like to address to all members at this time. And that is please keep all the OCC comments in the OCC Thread as I believe it makes the thread look better. I'm sorry I should have mentioned this before now.

Thanks

Kor

:gundge: [Abracadabra! The words that I don't want magically disappear!] :gundge:

We will need to ask Lynion what his intention was when he wrote it.

Thanks

Kor

We will? OK.

Ohhhh, LYNION...!

I TG'ed him and asked him to check out the OCC so he could answer our question.

Great, I go away for a few hours and I get a question stuffed into my face. Alright........ OOC post: response to the thread starter. IC post: I'm getting Lee to find over people so he can figure out what's going on. Remember he's the last of his kind so, he'll be mad and enraged.

Mad at what? Nobody's tried to hurt him yet, and nobody's tried to take him hostage, either.

Lynion by changing into a werewolf outside the school I thought he was going to attack
the school somehow, which is why I asked Lee the question. In my opinion if Lee was looking to make friends it might be better to at least meet them in his human form.

DS I meant no insult to your character in my last IC Post. He is welcome to continue
his involvement with my characters and hopefully with Lee too. By the way Qilaqui is a sorceress / seer not an amazon. All my characters have descriptions next to their names at the beginning of the thread.

Lynion Qilaqui's vision in the IC thread is meant to be a vision of what happened to Lee's people. If Lee is the last of his kind it would be helpful to know the details of what happened to them. So I can use them to bridge our characters differances.

Also I am leaving town on a trip in my semi for a couple of days so it will probly be mid week before I can get online again.

Might as well make it public, then. Please forgive me when I make Ambassador Reject arrogant and devious. This is a deliberate attempt to draw a contrast between him and another character of his species, Marvel, to make Marvel appear more competant.

Dastardly Stench;13873351']Might as well make it public, then. Please forgive me when I make Ambassador Reject arrogant and devious. This is a deliberate attempt to draw a contrast between him and another character of his species, Marvel, to make Marvel appear more competant.


Consider yourself forgiven DS, and keep up the good work.

Character Creation Template


Name: Cierre Xilophukiir
Age:200
Physical Description: Drow Elf
Eyes: Red
Hair: White
Powers: Ranger / Rogue
Weaknesses: Extremely Bright Sunlight
Bio: Cierre is a drow spy originally originally from the Underground Drow City called Mensoberranzan on Toril.
Location / Surroundings: Kormanthor Forest / Fantasy World

Welcome to Fantasy World Essembra / Cierre Xilophukiir

Lynion do you wish to find other Lynions in Myth Essembra? Or would you prefind them elsewere on Fantasy World, it is fine with me either way.

Just one other guardian would be fine. The rest would be extinct.

Ok that is fine, but I need to go to work right now so I will be back on late tonight or tomorrow according to how late I work.

Quick question:

Do you want my merc group to be completely fantasy or combined FT-Fantasy?

Quick question:

Do you want my merc group to be completely fantasy or combined FT-Fantasy?


I think a combined group would make for a much better game myself. Some would say no, but I've noticed that star wars fans love the jedi powers. Which could be seen as a fantasy type power similiar to magic.

OK, thanks. I wanted to get something envisioned before anyone had an IC reason to contact me for services.

Howdy there. I remember I was involved in the first Fantasy world. As this is version 3, I was wondering if I could take up where I left off with my character and faction from the first Fantasy world?

Though I do not write authoritatively, I recommend against picking up precisely where you left off. I may be wrong, but I am treating Episode II (for lack of a better term) as a canon part of the history of this thread. If that's the case (ruling, Kor?), then years have passed since your character and faction were in FWI, and their situation has probably changed slightly. ;)

Howdy there. I remember I was involved in the first Fantasy world. As this is version 3, I was wondering if I could take up where I left off with my character and faction from the first Fantasy world?


This Fantasy World 3 starts twenty years beyond the events in FW2. You are welcome to continue your characters from FW2 but they would be twenty years older.

OK, thanks. I wanted to get something envisioned before anyone had an IC reason to contact me for services.

Balrogga I would suggest that you might wish to write a post where the other coutries of the world somehow become ICly aware of your group and the services that are available.

Ouch ... I must have been more tired then I thought, sorry Lynion.

Excellent post Balrogga, your characters scared me and I'm not scared of anything. ( as my dad used to say. )

By the way Qwia's ship is an extremely modified Elven Man of War. It resembles a sailing ship similiar to ships used in Christopher Columbus' day only much larger.

Excellent post Balrogga, your characters scared me and I'm not scared of anything. ( as my dad used to say. )

Thanks, I wasn't sure if it was too much. I figured if it was I would edit things down. For the moment I just wanted to have fun with it and set the mood.

When I get a mission, those few spots I will be searching to fill could be taken by other PCs if they really wished but until I get one, there is not any rush to creat a merc for me to interview/hire.

I'm sure that the Evil Redeemers like Rechecht among the Red Gargoyles will be more than happy to work with your characters--and that Marvel and The Metal Man will be more than willing to work against them. ;)

Bump for IC Post

Like, give me something to post about and I'll post. Continue leaving my characters out of the story and I'll have no reason to--though I'm certainly not complaining that you're giving me less work to do. :) :) :)

Right now I assume Mephista is not needed. If anyone needs her services just contact her through one of her many job brokers located on the internet. They will get into contact with her and give her the details and she will decide if the job is worthy of her or one to send in one of her hirelings.

I suppose I could pretend to have her being one of the students or something but so far there hasn't been anything she would go for ICly

I was thinking of having the evil forces within the RG community contact her to help arrange a coup against Marvel, TMM, etc.

That would be fine if it was RPed correctly. Lets have some fun with it.

Right now I assume Mephista is not needed. If anyone needs her services just contact her through one of her many job brokers located on the internet. They will get into contact with her and give her the details and she will decide if the job is worthy of her or one to send in one of her hirelings.

I suppose I could pretend to have her being one of the students or something but so far there hasn't been anything she would go for ICly


Bal TG me about IC things that would interest her and I will give you an IC entrance if you want me too.

Howdy there. I remember I was involved in the first Fantasy world. As this is version 3, I was wondering if I could take up where I left off with my character and faction from the first Fantasy world?


Sharina you are welcome to start posting if you want

Please involve me in the posts. I'm basically looking for anything that will involve my characters in anything that's going on.

Please involve me in the posts. I'm basically looking for anything that will involve my characters in anything that's going on.


Okidoke

a = z
b = y
c = x

etc. Substitution cypher that no one should have trouble figuring out. :) :) :)

Sometimes, it may seem as though the world is flipped over.

Dv szev svziw gszg blf nzb luuvi zrw gslhv dsl xzm hgirpv gsv kilkvi yzitzrm.

Dv dlfow dv droormt gl nzpv z wzvo.

Ivkob ru rmgvivhgvw. Dv'oo yv dzgxsrmt.

a = z
b = y
c = x

etc. Substitution cypher that no one should have trouble figuring out. :) :) :)

:$:( :confused: I guess I'm dumber then I thought, because when I replaced the letters named I still didn't understand it.

a = z
b = y
c = x
d = w
e = v
f = u
g = t

etc.


I didn't name all the letters. Figured you'd get it. Sorry. My bad. :p :p :p

There were some typos. It read (typos included):

We have heard that you may offer aid those who strike the proper bargain.

We would we willing to make a deal.

Reply if interested. We'll be watching.

a = z
b = y
c = x
d = w
e = v
f = u
g = t

etc.


I didn't name all the letters. Figured you'd get it. Sorry. My bad. :p :p :p

I kinda figured there should be some other letter meanings. My bad on not getting it. :hail: :wink:

Another matter of earth-shattering importance resolved.

I used this site for the "base64" translator:

http://www.paulschou.com/tools/xlate/

OOC: Didn't want to do anything that complex. Still...

My hours changed this week from night shift to day shift. I have read your most recent posts and plan to answer them tonight after I get home from work.

I used this site for the "base64" translator:

http://www.paulschou.com/tools/xlate/


I appreciate your hard work on your code Bal.

I'd like to also say that I appreciate everyones efforts in participating in Fantasy World.

What the word Fantasy means to me ....
n
A fantastic idea born of creative imagination & unrestrained fancy, that does not represent actuality but is intentionally represented as true by the narrator

Sounds like a religious sermon to me... :p :) :p

:hail:Dastardly Stench;14034510']Sounds like a religious sermon to me... :p :) :p


Nope it's not .... here's my real religious sermon ....


:hail: Got Jesus? Think about it!

Sorry. Can't believe in Jesus. Read the New Testiment.

Sorry. Can't believe in Jesus. Read the New Testiment.


Your choice entirerly ... you know free will and all that :)

(Then let me correct myself: I believe in Jesus as a man who lived long ago, but whose life was exaggerated by people with sociopolitical agendas. I believe, for example, that the Nativity was a piece of fiction based on other myths that existed at the time.)

Just so you all know " Cierre Xilophukiir " is a Drow Elf that employs high magic similiar to the elven high magic used by the Elven people of Kormanthor Forest with one magor differance .... the drow are entirerly evil by nature .... unlike the Elves who live in Kormanthor Forest. So finding their Under Dark City is going to be completely impossible by technology alone. By enlarge harming them will be nearly as difficult, but can be done through merging technology with elven magic. Beyond these facts is the unknown nature of the technology his people found in the Lost City of Pacifica.

Sorry. That's godmodding. No can abide.

Dastardly Stench;14050527']Sorry. That's godmodding. No can abide.


No its not god modding, I didn't say it was totally impossible.

I'll ask you DS, what technology do you know of that can effect magic?

Hybred Technology where you combine Magic and Technology together. Most tech do not work in a high mana enviroment. You would die of old age waiting for the toaster to make your breakfast. If you were to combine the two together they would work but only after a long process.

I did this when my nation first arrived in April to May 04. I even made something called the Eldritch Bomb where it would flood an area with Mana so tech would not work. Since then, all my technology has been built from those first steps.

Unfortunately, Balrogga is not here. Mephista is not affiliated in any way with my nation and she is a seperate entity altogether.

My opinion on this is any magic/tech conbination should work since any magic would work against Elven High Magic. It is a form of magic, not a completely seperate version that uses a different system entirely.

Opinions?

Two points for Balrogga :hail: .... thank you my friend for making the point that I as Essembra was trying to get across.

" Hybred Technology where you combine Magic and Technology together "

Will work against Cierre Xilophukiir's magic, which is why his magic is not a godmod.

In fact, magic can be thought of as a form of technology. Ever read any of Rick Cook's novels on the subject? You can download 'em for free. :) :) :)

...however...

A simple sword can sometimes "kill" a magically-summoned demon, a creature that is literally made of magic.

A tuning fork can break the obsidian stones that carry rhune magic.

In a novel that I am trying to write, two demons have at it. One sticks the other with a pitchfork. The other tries to cast a spell. The first one waits until just the right moment and gives the fork a little twist, causing the other to gasp, causing the spell to backfire.

In all of these instances, technology affects magic.

Dastardly Stench;14057735']In fact, magic can be thought of as a form of technology. Ever read any of Rick Cook's novels on the subject? You can download 'em for free. :) :) :)

...however...

A simple sword can sometimes "kill" a magically-summoned demon, a creature that is literally made of magic.

A tuning fork can break the obsidian stones that carry rhune magic.

In a novel that I am trying to write, two demons have at it. One sticks the other with a pitchfork. The other tries to cast a spell. The first one waits until just the right moment and gives the fork a little twist, causing the other to gasp, causing the spell to backfire.

In all of these instances, technology affects magic.


The magic in Fantasy World is casts by characters of my making who originate from the Forgotten Realms, this fact has been stated in the thread repeatedly. In Forgotten Realms non magical items and or weapons can not effect magic, magical items or weapons. You can however take a non magical item to a magic user to be made into a magic item or weapon that can effect magic if it's casting level is equal to or greater then the casting of the item to be destroyed. Obviously the greater the power the more damage would be done in each attack. These types of weapons are what makes it possible to find and or destroy the thieves guild in the storyline. They are also the reason why the magic of the thieves guild is not a godmod.

A point to be made:

You should have said a non-magical item cannot block a magical effect. While a mundane knife would be able to easily slit the mage's throat, said knife would not be able to cut through a spell or block an incomming spell effect like it would a mundane rock or other item. If the knife was enchanted with the right spells or effects it might. Just becaise an item is enchanted does not mean it is all powerful and can do whatever you wish. Items are made to do specific tasks. Be it to strike anything easier (+1 sword) or to kill a specific creature type (Longsword +5, Dragonslayer). A Dagger of Parrying would add it's plus to the user's parry ability allowing them to block attacks within reason. I said within reason. A weapon slash or thrust was the initial concept and it might be extended to cover missile weapons. Spells would be delt with on an individual basis and bolders thrown bt a dragon or giant would be out of the question. Even though it is Magic, you still have to follow logic for even Magic follows unspoken rules.

A point to be made:

You should have said a non-magical item cannot block a magical effect. While a mundane knife would be able to easily slit the mage's throat, said knife would not be able to cut through a spell or block an incomming spell effect like it would a mundane rock or other item. If the knife was enchanted with the right spells or effects it might. Just becaise an item is enchanted does not mean it is all powerful and can do whatever you wish. Items are made to do specific tasks. Be it to strike anything easier (+1 sword) or to kill a specific creature type (Longsword +5, Dragonslayer). A Dagger of Parrying would add it's plus to the user's parry ability allowing them to block attacks within reason. I said within reason. A weapon slash or thrust was the initial concept and it might be extended to cover missile weapons. Spells would be delt with on an individual basis and bolders thrown bt a dragon or giant would be out of the question. Even though it is Magic, you still have to follow logic for even Magic follows unspoken rules.


I agree that a sharp non-magical sword could harm or even kill an unprotected mage. However if that mage has casts somekind of spell/s of personal protection then it would not. In that case you would need an enchanted weapon of a higher level then the level of the mages protection spell to do the same job. Again the fact that weapons enchanted with the right spell/s can effect enchanted protections is the reason this is not a godmod. I never said any enchanted weapon or item was all powerful. I apoligize if what I said was misunderstood.

I understood what you said but I wanted to make sure nobody misundesrstood your camment.

I tried to clarify it a bit.

I've been playing AD&D since 1978 so I know the origional three editions quite well. I didn't like the weirdness they put in with the last mutations WotC created.

I understood what you said but I wanted to make sure nobody misundesrstood your camment.

I tried to clarify it a bit.

I've been playing AD&D since 1978 so I know the origional three editions quite well. I didn't like the weirdness they put in with the last mutations WotC created.


I appreciate your clarification

This ain't D&D. In fact, things like a +1 Mace are useless here, because "+1" refers to a modifier used when rolling dice. This is a writing game. No dice.

Don't get me wrong--I'm not writing that magic should have no affect on technological items. Rather, I'm writing that the two exist in the same universe, and that they therefor must interact. Once again, the old maxim is that "sufficient technology is indistinguishable from magic," to which Rick Cook's writing has added, "and vice versa." I'm pointing out that it is, to put it mildly, just a little extreme to say that no technological items can affect magic. And, with all due respect to the D&D players among us, I really don't think that it matters that much that this practice has its origins in D&D--as I wrote above, this ain't D&D.

Check out TMM's bio. Note that the only innate power that he has is anti-esper. I haven't codified it as a modifier and I'm not going to, because TMM is a character in stories, not D&D modules. Does this mean that no one in any thread in which he participated could use magic? Hell no! In his presence, vampires, Jedi and even other characters of mine experience a reduction in their magical capabilities, but they never completely lose them. This is because the anit-esper trait is actually an anti-godmodding trait. It is, in fact, meant to prevent precisely the kind of thing that Essembra was proposing--that his characters can somehow just not deal with mine, and can just godmod their way past him. That's what I'm worried about--and nothing that's gone on in this thread has done anything to lessen my worries.

This really isn't about TMM, BTW. It's about using magic as a way to bypass normal caution, cooperation and good writing. Shouldn't be done that way.

Dastardly Stench;14060425'] This really isn't about TMM, BTW. It's about using magic as a way to bypass normal caution, cooperation and good writing. Shouldn't be done that way.

That is true. Magic is just a tool of the story teller to cause unexplained effects.

Also, if you make something invunerable to everything but a cat wearing a yellow vest during the second full moon of the second month of a leap year, it is just the same as being invulnerable.

Dastardly Stench;14060425']This ain't D&D. In fact, things like a +1 Mace are useless here, because "+1" refers to a modifier used when rolling dice. This is a writing game. No dice.

Don't get me wrong--I'm not writing that magic should have no affect on technological items. Rather, I'm writing that the two exist in the same universe, and that they therefor must interact. Once again, the old maxim is that "sufficient technology is indistinguishable from magic," to which Rick Cook's writing has added, "and vice versa." I'm pointing out that it is, to put it mildly, just a little extreme to say that no technological items can affect magic. And, with all due respect to the D&D players among us, I really don't think that it matters that much that this practice has its origins in D&D--as I wrote above, this ain't D&D.

Check out TMM's bio. Note that the only innate power that he has is anti-esper. I haven't codified it as a modifier and I'm not going to, because TMM is a character in stories, not D&D modules. Does this mean that no one in any thread in which he participated could use magic? Hell no! In his presence, vampires, Jedi and even other characters of mine experience a reduction in their magical capabilities, but they never completely lose them. This is because the anit-esper trait is actually an anti-godmodding trait. It is, in fact, meant to prevent precisely the kind of thing that Essembra was proposing--that his characters can somehow just not deal with mine, and can just godmod their way past him. That's what I'm worried about--and nothing that's gone on in this thread has done anything to lessen my worries.

This really isn't about TMM, BTW. It's about using magic as a way to bypass normal caution, cooperation and good writing. Shouldn't be done that way.

Kormanthor Fact Page:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499883&highlight=Kormanthor

By the way Essembra and Kormanthor is the same person, this fact is documented in the Kormanthor Fact Page. This thread might not be totally DND, but the magic that is used by the people of Kormanthor Forest does originate from the Forgotten Realms. Because of this the magic used by the guild is based on rules of magic found in the Forgotten Realms. As Kormanthor I am the author of this thread so I do have the last word on this as you agreed to when you created a character for Fantasy World. This agreement is documented in the beginning storyline of the thread.
However, I do agree with you that if you go far enough into the future certain futuristic technologies might have similiar effects. The one that comes to mind is Laser or Phasers. These weapons do produce a lethal death ray just as certain magic spells can. So what I was saying as Essembra was that you simply need to enchant a normal weapon for it to be able to effect the guilds magic. In this way I am able to give the mages of Kormanthor Forest and / or any other part of Fantasy World another way to build wealth.

You wrote that your characters were invulnerable and undetectable. This is not acceptable. Tough and hard to find is acceptable; this is not.

If this will not change, then I will leave the thread. Respectfully.

Just so you all know " Cierre Xilophukiir " is a Drow Elf that employs high magic similiar to the elven high magic used by the Elven people of Kormanthor Forest with one magor differance .... the drow are entirerly evil by nature .... unlike the Elves who live in Kormanthor Forest. So finding their Under Dark City is going to be completely impossible by " technology alone ". By enlarge harming them will be nearly as difficult, but can be done through merging technology with elven magic. Beyond these facts is the unknown nature of the technology his people found in the Lost City of Pacifica.


DS is this the quote you are talking about?

Yes.

Originally Posted by Essembra
Just so you all know " Cierre Xilophukiir " is a Drow Elf that employs high magic similiar to the elven high magic used by the Elven people of Kormanthor Forest with one magor differance .... the drow are entirerly evil by nature .... unlike the Elves who live in Kormanthor Forest. So finding their Under Dark City is going to be completely impossible by " technology alone ". By enlarge harming them will be nearly as difficult, but can be done through merging technology with elven magic . Beyond these facts is the unknown nature of the technology his people found in the Lost City of Pacifica.

Sorry I've been off for so long, I lost my internet connection at home because my hours have been cut again. The dark letters show that what I did was not a God Mod because the City was still vulnerble to magic. Anyway I will change it to technology alone is bearly able to find or harm the Under Dark City. Will that satisify you?

Yes. I was thinking that TMM's sensors would not reveal the city, but rather an anomaly.

Yes. I was thinking that TMM's sensors would not reveal the city, but rather an anomaly.


That sounds good to me. I will try to get to the library more often OK?
I stiil don't have internet access at home, but I am working on it.

fine with me.

Good, this is still going on. I was waiting to find out if this would resolve.

I'm STUBBORN, not UNREASONABLE. ;)

Dastardly Stench;14237615']I'm STUBBORN, not UNREASONABLE. ;)

DS I'm glad we worked this out. Bal welcome back.

Kor

I'm going to start writting a new post concerning Essembra discovering that the Masks are up to no good. Please post if you have something to post so we can get Fantasy World rolling again.

Thanks

Kor

OK, but I'm STILL going to get the last word in!

(Actually, this is more of a humorous BUMP for this thread...)

Dastardly Stench;14291353']OK, but I'm STILL going to get the last word in!

(Actually, this is more of a humorous BUMP for this thread...)

Of this I have no doubt :p


( Thanks for the bump ) :)

So...I'm blocked on all subthreads. Any new post coming?

So...I'm blocked on all subthreads. Any new post coming?



Yes I have been meaning to write a new post. I will get on it this weekend. Sorry I have been very busy with job hunting and unemployment issues. :$