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Juntastan's Arch Aristocra Ultimatum:" Remove Your Satelites or We Will!"

Juntastan Ascendacy
02-07-2008, 03:59
Aristocrapolis, Aristocrapolis News

"On a recent aired announcement on Aristocrapolis News, the Arch Aristocra Melinda Vates (of House Vates) made a shocking revelation to the Juntastanese people
"People of Juntastan, Kindred, I am grieved to say that our great nation has been soiled by the prying of satelites
It has came to my notice that several nations, expressly against the wishes of the Juntastanese people and the Great Belief, have soiled us and made our cities, buildings and people unclean by the prying eyes of the satelites taking pictures of Juntastan from space.
As we all know, Kindred, the Great Belief specifically does not allow powandah, or unbelievers, to learn our native language, gain a copy of our scriptures, look on an unmasked Juntastanese nor soil our buildings and especially our Temples by taking pictures of them.
Despite our peaceful intentions, the powandah (unbelievers), have done just this. They have photographed our people unmasked and worse yet, have photographed our temples by their satelites. This is an outrage! The penalty for unbelievers of violating the purity rules of the Great Belief is death.
i have decided, along with the Council of the Seven Ruling Families, and the Assembly of Citizens to give the nations with satelites over Juntastanese airspace one week to remove them. If in one week they are not removed, we will consider this to be an act of aggression by the nations owning these spy satelites and will deal accordingly with the impious powandah.
Do not mistake our restraint for weakness, Powandahs. You have one week, or the Juntastanese people will remove them FOR you, one way or the other. We take this is an act of aggression, blasphemy and ritually polluting our people, our cities and us.
As for the Juntastanese people: I have ordered the Clerics of all the Temples to begin offering the sacrament of the Rite of Cleansing both to the buildings, Temples and our citizenry. All citizens are to contact their Cleric and begin performing the outer and inner spiritual disciplines so as to make our people clean of this..filth!
I have ordered our fleet to full readiness and we will extend a cordon in a 100 mile radius around the subcontinent of the Confederation of the Juntastan Ascendacy. All the nations responsibile for this desecration of our people and mockery of the Great Belief are interdicted and will be boarded , the ship and it's contents seized. Only nations not responsibile for this desecration of Juntastan may dock on the East Coast after satisfying the Juntastanese Self Defense Navy that they are indeed not of one of the blasphemer nations
One week, Powandahs! Get those damn satelites out of our airspace!
Asgarnieu
02-07-2008, 04:44
[OOC: Legally, you can't do anything...space is a free zone. Perhaps putting satellite jammers up around your nation would suffice. Stating that you will remove internationally-owned satellites is almost grounds for war. I wouldn't risk my nation like that if it was that small.]
Gun Manufacturers
02-07-2008, 04:52
Aristocrapolis, Aristocrapolis News

"On a recent aired announcement on Aristocrapolis News, the Arch Aristocra Melinda Vates (of House Vates) made a shocking revelation to the Juntastanese people
"People of Juntastan, Kindred, I am grieved to say that our great nation has been soiled by the prying of satelites
It has came to my notice that several nations, expressly against the wishes of the Juntastanese people and the Great Belief, have soiled us and made our cities, buildings and people unclean by the prying eyes of the satelites taking pictures of Juntastan from space.
As we all know, Kindred, the Great Belief specifically does not allow powandah, or unbelievers, to learn our native language, gain a copy of our scriptures, look on an unmasked Juntastanese nor soil our buildings and especially our Temples by taking pictures of them.
Despite our peaceful intentions, the powandah (unbelievers), have done just this. They have photographed our people unmasked and worse yet, have photographed our temples by their satelites. This is an outrage! The penalty for unbelievers of violating the purity rules of the Great Belief is death.
i have decided, along with the Council of the Seven Ruling Families, and the Assembly of Citizens to give the nations with satelites over Juntastanese airspace one week to remove them. If in one week they are not removed, we will consider this to be an act of aggression by the nations owning these spy satelites and will deal accordingly with the impious powandah.
Do not mistake our restraint for weakness, Powandahs. You have one week, or the Juntastanese people will remove them FOR you, one way or the other. We take this is an act of aggression, blasphemy and ritually polluting our people, our cities and us.
As for the Juntastanese people: I have ordered the Clerics of all the Temples to begin offering the sacrament of the Rite of Cleansing both to the buildings, Temples and our citizenry. All citizens are to contact their Cleric and begin performing the outer and inner spiritual disciplines so as to make our people clean of this..filth!
I have ordered our fleet to full readiness and we will extend a cordon in a 100 mile radius around the subcontinent of the Confederation of the Juntastan Ascendacy. All the nations responsibile for this desecration of our people and mockery of the Great Belief are interdicted and will be boarded , the ship and it's contents seized. Only nations not responsibile for this desecration of Juntastan may dock on the East Coast after satisfying the Juntastanese Self Defense Navy that they are indeed not of one of the blasphemer nations
One week, Powandahs! Get those damn satelites out of our airspace!

The only satellites that the ASoGM owns, that have the potential to pass over your nation are very expensive weather satellites in a polar orbit. These satellites are unable to change course to avoid your nation, and the ASoGM will not adjust their trajectory by sending a crew up there in a spacecraft. If you attempt to shoot them down, you run the risk of damaging or destroying them. Doing that will cause the ASoGM to bill you for the repair or replacement of the satellites.

While we do regret whatever bad feelings these satellites crossing over your nation may cause between our two nations, we cannot at this time do anything about it.
The Grand World Order
02-07-2008, 05:27
Encrypted Message

To: Juntastan
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs

If you harm ANY of our satellites, you'll have a lot more to worry about than people taking pictures of your nation.

Just look at it this way; Your unmasked head will be visible to the millions living in Magna Polis. We believe you can figure out what that means. Not only that, but we will forcibly publish everything you've tried to keep secret.

Of course, we don't believe your nation is really one that we need to monitor.


Space

In the darkness of the cosmos, a single object floated onto the scene. This was F-SS-21, a cheaply built sattelite with a telescopic camera system. The GWO had many of these. They had no advanced communications, GPS, relay abilities, or anything of the sort. They simply had a telescopic camera and a basic communications system to send what it saw to the Spire in Magna Polis. Today, it was going to "park" itself over Juntastan. Its mission: Take pictures. And so it began, freeze-framing pictures of Junstastanic holy structures, cities, possible invasion points, and a few semi-close up pictures of Junstastan's spiritual/political leaders. These were printed out and given to the Federal Geographic Society, who began running the photoes in their bi-weekly issues of "Federal Geographic". Underneath each photo, one would see that the photoes were given by both the Fascist Federation Department of Internal Control and the Fascist Federation Department of Naval Warfare.
The Beatus
02-07-2008, 05:55
To Juntastan,

My company currently operates 20 satellites in Geosynchronous orbit over your nation. They are a variety of satellite types, Communications Satellites, Weather Satellites, Navigational satellites, Earth observation satellites, and Astronomical satellites. Many of these satellites are not designed to be able to change course on they're own, and others are positioned where they are for specific reasons, and therefore we will not move. We apologize for any incontinence, but hopefully we can work something out. Any attempt to interfere with our business operations, will be met with an court order to cease and desist. If you fail to abide by the cease and desist order, than we will be forced to, and legally able to, take matters into our own hands. Neither of us wishes for that to happen, I am sure. So I will await your response.

Signed,
Jimmy James,
CEO, Owner,
Jimmy James Industries
Kahanistan
02-07-2008, 05:57
Juntastanese space, about 200 kilometres from sea level

A lone Svoboda Mark II satellite owned by Samizdat Corporation, originally designed for broadcasting neutral news into nations that restricted domestic media, was hacked by members of the Homosexual African-American Association of Kahanistan, or HAAAK.

The satellite now proceeded to broadcast images of nude women in suggestive poses, mostly female members of HAAAK. While most people in Kahanistan knew little of the Great Belief, most religions didn't take too kindly to images of nude women being broadcasted into places of worship.

Since the satellite lacked means of zooming in, it lacked means of delivering more than poor-quality, grainy videos of the surface. It may have been large enough to scan, for example, a large concentration camp if there were any to report on, but not something as small as a temple. This was, after all, a hacked news satellite, not a recon or spy satellite. The nude females being broadcasted on Juntastanese TV and websites were the only means the satellite had of attacking.
East Congaree
02-07-2008, 06:45
To: The Juntastan head of state.

From: East Congaree President- Reginald Deere

As a direct warning from me, you are not to mess with any Grand World Order satellites in orbit, or those of any other IFA nation. Doing so will be an act of agression towards East Congaree and other IFA states, who will be more than happy to collectively sack you. I will personally warn you that any agression towards the Grand World Order will not only result in conflict with us, but a declaration of war. Your own absurd comments against the convienience of satellites has resulted in the deportation of all your citizens within our nation, wether they be tourists, diplomats, other government workers, those on buisness trips, or any other citizens that you have for that matter. Thanks for dealing kindly to my statement. Not many people get the privlige of getting a direct warning from me.

East Congaree Freedom Party Chairman and East Congaree President- Reginald Deere
Zinaire
02-07-2008, 07:06
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Zinairian Foreign Authority
Department of Diplomatic Affairs
14 National Plaza, Zinaire City

Your demand is arrogant, ignorant and wholly absurd. The people of Juntastan need to get over their theocratic superstitions and live in the modern world where cameras and satellites fly overhead are a normal and perfectly acceptable occurrence. Under no conditions will we remove our Advanced Keyhole satellites from your entire hemisphere so I suppose we stand in opposition to your ultimatum. If you attempt to remove our satellites from orbit, an effort which I imagine would be at least two-thirds prayer, we will take the necessary action to insure the safety of our orbital reconnaissance equipment.

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Sir Jackson Miller
Chancellor of Diplomatic Affairs
Stimpsk
02-07-2008, 07:44
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OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION

To: Melinda Vates, Arch Aristocra of the Confederation of Juntastan Ascendancy
From: Alfred Hiscox III, Minister of Foreign Relations

Your demand to remove all satellites over your "airspace" is absolutely ludicrous.

First off, the only satellites Stimpsk operates near or in Juntastan "airspace" is used as a part of our tropical weather detection system. To remove these satellites would be putting thousands of Stimpski lives in unnecessary danger, because our National Weather Bureau could not accurately predict where tropical systems will hit.

The fact that you want us to risk thousands of lives because you believe it's heresy to take a picture of a building is absolutely appalling. We simply will not comply with this demand.

Should Juntastan make aggressive actions against Stimpsk, I will be forced to defer all communication to our Minister of Defense, Justin Hendrickson, who will promptly take all appropriate actions to defend our property.

I hope, for your sake, that you will either drop this unreasonable demand, or come to a respectable agreement with nations who operate in your "airspace".

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Alfred Hiscox III
Minister of Foreign Relations
Commonwealth of Stimpsk
The Grand World Order
02-07-2008, 07:49
To: All Nations Involved
From: The Grand World Order Department of Naval Warfare

Upon re-reading the Juntastanian Ultimatum, we have realized that a nation of Juntastan's size would most likely have a territorial water zone of about 50 miles or so, not 100. Therefore, the Juntastanian Navy has officially been branded as Pirates, and we have recieved permission to deploy a force to protect all ships from the Juntastanians.

The branding is justified, as the Juntastanians have claimed they will board ships OUTSIDE of their legal territory. Calculations of their military funding has shown that unless they have virtually no ground or air forces, they would have a hard time permanently securing a 100 mile radius of territorial waters.

The force being sent is a multi-fleet task force, and will NOT fire unless fired upon first, or if they see an illegal boarding.

While it is perfectly fine for a nation to randomly board ships within their territory, doing so in international waters is flat out piracy. Many times, it can also be considered an act of war. Any attacks against our force will be regarded as a hostile act against the Grand World Order, and will be dealt with promptly and decisively.

We also would like to ask for other nations to devote elements of their navy to the protection of civilian ships in the waters near Juntastan.
Zinaire
02-07-2008, 08:01
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Zinairian Foreign Authority
Department of Diplomatic Affairs
14 National Plaza, Zinaire City

To: The Grand World Order
CC: All Nations Involved

We must agree that the naval activities threatened by the Juntastanians borders on piracy. Therefore, we will commit Zinairian naval forces to prevent this state-sanctioned act of thievery.

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Sir Jackson Miller
Chancellor of Diplomatic Affairs
East Congaree
02-07-2008, 08:03
To: The Juntastan Department of Foriegn Affairs

From: The East Congaree Department of Naval Forces

A force of 30 whiskey class subs, a carrier of 92 MiG-17s, twelve Galveston class cruisers, 1 Arliegh-Burke destroyer, an Iowa class battleship,three-hundred Standard East Congaree Saltwater/Brackish gunboats (having two 3 inch cannons and a 12.7 mm machine gun), along with logistics and refueling ships is being sent to 55 miles off your coast to inform you of your sovreignty line. Firing upon these East Congaree forces or any other IFA forces will be seen as an act of agression that will bring on a declaration of war against the Juntastan Confederacy. Thank you for your understanding.

East Congaree Naval Secretary- Michael Thurmond
The Grand World Order
02-07-2008, 08:40
((OOC: Total GWO Naval Forces being deployed, excluding Logistics (i.e. Replenishment, hospital, transport, etc) -

x1 Super Dreadnought, the FWS 78 Virgins to serve as the command ship
x2 Battleships
x15 Frigates
x20 Cruisers
x10 Battlecruisers
x2 Nuclear Supercarriers
x2 Standard Carriers
x20 Attack Submarines
x10 Destroyers
x200 Marine Attack Boats (To be used as scout/patrol boats)

Aircraft-
-100 F-35s
-30 F-22s
-10 F-23s
-50 RAH-66 Commanche Helicopters (Also for scout/patrol purposes)
-20 UH-64 Blackhawks (For Marine deployment and civilian evacuation)

Non-crew soldiers-
-800 Enlisted Marines
-50 Marine Officers
-100 Federal Guardsmen (Military/National Police)))
Asgarnieu
02-07-2008, 14:20
[OOC: Told ya...]
Belschaft
02-07-2008, 15:13
((OOC: Total GWO Naval Forces being deployed, excluding Logistics (i.e. Replenishment, hospital, transport, etc) -

x1 Super Dreadnought, the FWS 78 Virgins to serve as the command ship
x2 Battleships
x15 Frigates
x20 Cruisers
x10 Battlecruisers
x2 Nuclear Supercarriers
x2 Standard Carriers
x20 Attack Submarines
x10 Destroyers
x200 Marine Attack Boats (To be used as scout/patrol boats)

Aircraft-
-100 F-35s
-30 F-22s
-10 F-23s
-50 RAH-66 Commanche Helicopters (Also for scout/patrol purposes)
-20 UH-64 Blackhawks (For Marine deployment and civilian evacuation)

Non-crew soldiers-
-800 Enlisted Marines
-50 Marine Officers
-100 Federal Guardsmen (Military/National Police)))


OOC- the basic F-22 isn't carrier capable. The USA navy was working on a swing wing version of the jet but canceled it on the basis that it was unnesercary. I'd recomend you state your jet's are a special variant, I'm calling mine the F-22N Seabird in other threads, feel free to use the same name.
Kleve-Berg
02-07-2008, 15:22
To: The Juntastan Department of Foriegn Affairs

From: Kleve-Berg's Ministry of Foreign affairs

Though we have neither developed a space program of our own yet, nor we do process a navy (we are landlocked), our parliament as well as the Grad Duke strongly condemns this move.
Lynion
02-07-2008, 15:26
TO: Juntastan
FROM: Kingdom of Lynion

We have already one satelite in space and we use it for weather and sea conditions and we therefore won't bring it down.

Secondly, due to your threats of piracy, any attacks on Lynion Freighter's will be seen as an act of war and don't expect us to look so kindly on you.

Due to the threats all Lynion Freighter's have a naval escort of:

2 Frigates
1 Destoryer
1 SAM Destoryer
3 Submarines
Burtilana
02-07-2008, 16:51
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


TO: Leadershi of The Confederacy of Juntastan Ascendacy
FROM: Vladimir Burte, President of the USSB

Your demands are absurd and bordering lunacy, even if we took your threat seriously, and took down our satalites, it would take more then a week. We aren't taking you seriously though, and will not take them down.
Yes, we have satalites passing over your nation, all providing GPS, predicting weather, or photographing the land for map building, but, none of them are spy satalites.
We have Lynion trade ships passing your nation, as well as other trade ships. So we do not look kindly upon the 'Piracy' you propose. If any ships bringing trade to and from our nation is touched by your navy, you will feel the full might of The Paradise Moutain Naval Fleet.
Burtilana
02-07-2008, 16:56
Suddamn Naval Base
the The Paradise Moutain Fleet had just began moving off from being docked for replenishments, they were on a different mission to usual, instead of just patrolling the seas around Burtilana, they were heading off to help protect their supply lines from the threat of Juntastan pirates.
Daiwiz
02-07-2008, 18:18
A message to the Justanian Ascendancy leader.

We here at Daiwiz, do not take kindly to threats of any kind, to anyone, without a proper reason. We currently have a single satellite orbiting in orbit and that is for weather. Our armed forces are mighty here at daiwiz, while we may be small. One soldier fights with the ferocity of 10 other soldiers. We have sent a portion of our current naval forces, which include:

1 CVL carrier (TUSSDS Neoble)
1 Ohio class SSBN (TUSSDS Kran)
2 Barracuda class subs (TUSSDS Carrn and TUSSDS Paink)
2 Iroquois class destroyers (TUSSDS strgn TUSSDS Pt'a)
1 Bismark class battleship (TUSSDS GrosseBoom acting as the flagship)
10 PT boats (a crew of 10, 4 torpedo tubes, 2 depth charge launchers, 2 50 mm machine guns, 2 15 mm aa guns, 2 assault boats per)

1 battalion of TUSSDMC
5 TOW armed Humvees

2 UH 60 Black hawks for marine deployment, and minesweeping
2 Commanchee's
10 M18 Harrier jets

If you continue the ludicrous threat to eliminate satelites controlled by, and piratical acts against, nations that have done no wrong, we will not be able to avoid conflict between our nations, wether it be our controlled forces, or unforseen terrorist events.
Zinaire
02-07-2008, 19:43
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Zinairian Foreign Authority
Department of Diplomatic Affairs
14 National Plaza, Zinaire City

In order to demonstrate our tough stance on piracy, Zinaire will be deploying the Tropical Promise Carrier Strike Group to the area to aid the international fleet.

Tropical Promise Carrier Strike Group

- 1 Gerald R Ford Class Aircraft Carrier (ZSV Tropical Promise)
- 30 F/A-18 Super Hornets
- 30 F-35 Join Strike Fighters
- 12 EA-18G Growler
- 12 Seahawks
- 2 Winston Class Cruisers (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13474866&postcount=1870) (ZSV Miracle and ZSV Savior)
- 3 Stuart Class Frigate (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11335521&postcount=433) (ZSV Ægir, ZSV Yamm and ZSV Agwe
- 3 Zumwalt Class Destroyers (ZSV Triton, ZSV Neptune and ZSV Nautilus)
- 2 Virginia Class Attack Submarine (ZSV Angler and ZSV Piranha)

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Sir Jackson Miller
Chancellor of Diplomatic Affairs
Daiwiz
02-07-2008, 19:55
__________ 200 miles off the coast of Juntastan

"Sir, we will be arriving at our defensive location in less than 2 hrs."
"Thank you Pvt. That will be all."

As the combined crews of the Sharian blockade forces move into position for the defense of trade ships bound to Juntastan, a loan PT boat has gone on ahead to scout out positions......

________________
East Congaree
02-07-2008, 20:42
To: Penguin Protection Department of Foreign Affairs

From: East Congaree Department of Intelligence (Naval Branch)


Thank you for your concern about Juntastan expanding its' borders a bit too much, but we highly condemn you using a nuclear weapon (which you obviously described by saying "glassy crater") unless you were fired upon first by a nuclear weapon. Secondly, we doubt a nation of your size can field a nuclear weapon, as we don't even have one to date. You are encouraged to send a naval task force to the region along with a regiment of infantry to assist any of the major nations condemning the Juntastan Confederacy.

Chief Master Petty Officer of the Navy- Joseph Beauregard
The Grand World Order
02-07-2008, 21:26
((OOC: Penguin, I do believe that this thread is MT, not FT. It sounds as if you're claiming that a giant starship is going to glass his nation.

First of all, this is MT, as said before.
Second, your nation probably can't afford a large satellite network.
Third, your nation can't afford enough nuclear munitions to completely glass a nation as big as Juntastan is suggesting.))
Daiwiz
02-07-2008, 21:37
*Penguin, my nation found uranium and have mined a small bit of it.if thats happened, you may have a few nukes but nowheres near enough to completely destroy him. a nation your size could not produce quite so many as whats required, so please play by what would be realistic." To let you know, juntastan, the Kran has nuclear missiles on board. That's what the SSBN's are. We merely used the normal ballistic missiles and fitted them with a nuclear warhead. We will not use this WMD, unless you cause this to be necessary.

The kolitburo, Praith Dr'klow
Zinaire
02-07-2008, 21:52
OOC: Why the hell are you bringing nukes on an anti-piracy mission?
Daiwiz
02-07-2008, 21:57
*I'm bringing 1 nuclear missile. the rest are Ballistic missiles, and torpedos. shoulda stated that before lol. :headbang:*
Pan-Arab Barronia
02-07-2008, 21:58
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Sir

Your demand is unreasonable and ludicrous at best. At no point will LION or indeed Barronia be moving legally-placed satellites from your "airspace".

Any moves by Juntastan to remove, damage, or otherwise interfere with the legitimate operation of these satellites will be met with further action, including but not limited to invoicing for costs related to the replacement of assets, trade limitations, and economic sanctions by LION member states.

We trust your demands will result in no further action, for the good of yourself and others.

Yours,

Lord Commissioner Nigel Harvey
Joint Foreign Affairs Secretary, League of Imperial Ocean-Faring Nations
Lord Commissioner for LION-Barronian Affairs
Third Spanish States
02-07-2008, 22:04
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From Cecily Lockhelm, Third Spanish head of States to Arch Aristocra Melinda Vates of Juntastan

I have been watching some news in my brief time that I was not busy talking about war or about how to get back home safely from the aircraft carrier I am currently in, and I became aware of such inconvenient situation provoked by exotic beliefs which were already bashed by the prejudice of people who refuse to see the holes of their own beliefs. As for a strange reason, your territories are not in my world map, I find it likely that this has something to do with the strange rift that leads to other worlds and parallel Earths, where as expected, we have not a single satellite orbiting. I believe there is a manner to solve this without issuing threats to nations a hundred of times larger than yours and putting the sovereignty of your own people at risk. In fact, there is a manner which would not only satellites useless for military intelligence purposes against your nation, but also allow it to be capable of surviving even a nuclear apocalypse(provided bunker buster are not used). However, this proposal will be expensive, but still less costly than being annexed into the territories of a larger nation.

Simply said, satellites cannot spy on underground cities or on cities beneath the waves. We have already developed the technology that allows such types of cities to exist, while artificial lighting can simulate almost perfectly the sun to create a good sensation to its inhabitants. Our Enclave City, with 150,000 inhabitants, is the most common example of this, being deep beneath the sea, it is one of our more exotic locales that offer some unique visages.

Regarding building underground, we have mastered such technology for years as well, but for purely military purposes until now, something which does not mean such could be adapted to create the needed infrastructure for a subterranean city to function properly and be self-sufficient. Through a combination of aeroponics, hydroponics and of our successful try on what Biosphere 2 has failed, we are ready to provide Juntastan with a much more effective, and peaceful manner to assure no satellites will disrupt your beliefs.

Of course, we cannot provide such services free of charge, but our Advanced Development and Arcology Engineering Cooperative Confederacy(ADARCON) will not mind a long term payment with what your funds can handle for the project, at an interest rate much lower than that of the average capitalist banker. As an example of our previous investments in foreign infrastructure, ADARCON has been one of the companies that helped the city of Vetalia to become one of the most modern of the world as indicated in this annex (http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13417149&postcount=16). We will allow you to live normally without worries of satellites, in the wonderous visage of the sea or of marvelously built underground cities.

I know that a change like this is not easy, but however, I believe it is the best choice to ensure the continued survival of your people, sovereignty, culture, beliefs and traditions, and advise to simply remove the threats made against those who had unintentionally satellites passing through your nation to ensure your continued sovereignty. When your other options are to dismiss your beliefs or to engage into a war against enemies that outnumber you in more than a hundred to one, I offer this proposal as a better alternative.

Attentiously
Cecily Lockhelm (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Cleyere.jpg)
Head of State, vigilante and military advisor
Avalic
02-07-2008, 22:54
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To Juntastan Ascendacy,

Your demand is completely ridiculous, you can't have the amount of fire power to destroy EVERY satellite that orbits over your country. That would be like declaring war on most of the world. Satellites from our country provide weather reports, tracking down aircraft and missiles that may be aimed at Avalic, providing GPS and television, and many other uses. Space is a neutral region and should stay that way, you have no authority over our satellites and your threats are not helping your cause.

Any destruction of our satellites will result in air craft entering your airspace as by shooting it down, it is like you telling us that you are a hostile nation that wants to declare war on us. Of course, most of us in the government know the importance of religion though, we can not meet your demands. Moving the satellites from their current path around the world would be time consuming. We do not wish harm on your citizens with our satellites, these satellites are important to our economy.

We will not have immediate action right now. But if you continue threatening the nations of the world with satellites over your country, we shall be mobilizing our navy into into international waters near your country. Do not shoot down our satellites, for your sake and ours.

- The Avalican Government
Juntastan Ascendacy
03-07-2008, 00:55
To: All Nations Involved
From: The Grand World Order Department of Naval Warfare

Upon re-reading the Juntastanian Ultimatum, we have realized that a nation of Juntastan's size would most likely have a territorial water zone of about 50 miles or so, not 100. Therefore, the Juntastanian Navy has officially been branded as Pirates, and we have recieved permission to deploy a force to protect all ships from the Juntastanians.

The branding is justified, as the Juntastanians have claimed they will board ships OUTSIDE of their legal territory. Calculations of their military funding has shown that unless they have virtually no ground or air forces, they would have a hard time permanently securing a 100 mile radius of territorial waters.

The force being sent is a multi-fleet task force, and will NOT fire unless fired upon first, or if they see an illegal boarding.

While it is perfectly fine for a nation to randomly board ships within their territory, doing so in international waters is flat out piracy. Many times, it can also be considered an act of war. Any attacks against our force will be regarded as a hostile act against the Grand World Order, and will be dealt with promptly and decisively.

We also would like to ask for other nations to devote elements of their navy to the protection of civilian ships in the waters near Juntastan.

Notice from the Desk of the Arch Aristocra Melinda Vates:

We ask that you properly flag your ships. If done so, we will not board them. However, we will NOT allow them to enter within a 100 mile radius around the subcontinent of Juntastan.
We claim the right to do so, since the invasion of our air space by your satelites and the sacraligious taking of pictures of our holy sites and Juntastan cities as well, is in clear violation of the tenets of the Great Belief.
Since your nation in particular has been so flagarant in the violation against photographic images taken of Juntastanese cities and shrines that are not on the West Coast, we further ban all of your imports.
If, however, you will sing a Treaty of Nuetrality with Juntastan and hand over all photographic pictures taken of Juntastanese cities, and promise to no longer desecrate our great people with your impious pictures, we will give you Most favored Nation status as well as allow your ships to dock on the West Coast of Juntastan.
The issue is your violation of the holy tenets of the Great Belief, as outlined in our Scriptures. If you can satisfy us yourt not polluting our lkand with your impious eyes, we will have no problem with you.
Juntastan Ascendacy
03-07-2008, 00:59
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To Juntastan Ascendacy,

Your demand is completely ridiculous, you can't have the amount of fire power to destroy EVERY satellite that orbits over your country. That would be like declaring war on most of the world. Satellites from our country provide weather reports, tracking down aircraft and missiles that may be aimed at Avalic, providing GPS and television, and many other uses. Space is a neutral region and should stay that way, you have no authority over our satellites and your threats are not helping your cause.

Any destruction of our satellites will result in air craft entering your airspace as by shooting it down, it is like you telling us that you are a hostile nation that wants to declare war on us. Of course, most of us in the government know the importance of religion though, we can not meet your demands. Moving the satellites from their current path around the world would be time consuming. We do not wish harm on your citizens with our satellites, these satellites are important to our economy.

We will not have immediate action right now. But if you continue threatening the nations of the world with satellites over your country, we shall be mobilizing our navy into into international waters near your country. Do not shoot down our satellites, for your sake and ours.

- The Avalican Government

We request that the Avalican Government hand over documentation of all satelites that presently cross Juntastan airspace. If they are simple satelites that are not used for taking pictures of Juntastan, nor recording television or radio transmissions from Juntastan, we will be pleased to allow their continued crossing of Juntastan airspace with our gracious permission.
Please forward schematics of the satelites your government has that now crossess into Juntastan airspace, along with all documentation necessary to prove their incapacity to take pictures or record television or radio transmissions. Apon receit of these schematics and documents, wqe will have the Ministry of Technology & Sciensce examine, and if found genuine and true, we will permit, with OUR permission, their continued crossing of Juntastan airspace.
East Congaree
03-07-2008, 01:04
The whole of the East Congaree task force was now 55 miles off the coast of Juntastan, keeping a watch on the horizon for Juntastan Confederacy naval forces that would be deemed pirates if they attempted to board the ships. Various East Congaree ship leading officers took out binoculars and stared at Juntastanian ships of both commerce, recreation, and military purposes. If a "religious ship" passed by, it would be observed to tell if it had agressive intents, too.
Juntastan Ascendacy
03-07-2008, 01:07
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Zinairian Foreign Authority
Department of Diplomatic Affairs
14 National Plaza, Zinaire City

To: The Grand World Order
CC: All Nations Involved

We must agree that the naval activities threatened by the Juntastanians borders on piracy. Therefore, we will commit Zinairian naval forces to prevent this state-sanctioned act of thievery.

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Sir Jackson Miller
Chancellor of Diplomatic Affairs

Your claims is ridiculous, sir. Juntastan has ALWAYS asserted the right to defend it's territorial waters around the subcontinent of Juntastan.
In reaction to your actions, we have banned all imports from your nation and ejected all Zinairian citizens from the West Coast of Juntastan and from all the cities of Juntastan.
We will send them to you, dispersed among the Juntastan Self Defense Fleet. We have found that because of your lack of sanitary practices that the Great Belief teaches in the Scriptures, many have contacted a serious case of Juntastanese Lupus.
Juntastan Lupus is quite contagious, and so we do not wish for a plauge to be spread to your good and decent people. Therefore, we are treating them on our ships, and once we know their not infected with Juntastan Lupus, we will turn your citizens over to your ships.
We invite any official you desire, under Juntastan ewscort, to examine your citizens on our navies ships and see that they are being well treated and that we are administering medical aid to those who have contracted Juntastan Lupus.
We ask that only one officer of your navy come, and we promise to give safeconduct to said officer. i advise you to show caution, we would hate for you to contract Juntastan Lupus. It is extremely contagious, and if not properly treated leads to paralysis and blindness.

_From the Ministry of Self Defense
Ministry of Public Health
and the Arch Minister of the Juntastan Self Defense Fleet
The Grand World Order
03-07-2008, 01:12
To: Juntastan
From: The Grand World Order Department of Naval Warfare

We are not doing this only for our own safety; Many civilian ships are possibly threatened by your decree. Our force will be EXACTLY 100 miles out, monitoring for any illegal boardings. We are not preventing anything from entering your country.

As for the photos, those have already circulated around the Internet. Hopefully you understand that once something is on the Internet, it is extremely difficult, bordering on impossible, to delete.


100 miles off the Juntastanian Coasts

The horde of GWO Ships had arrived. Quickly, they began spreading out, as to cover more areas. Each ship began deploying Marine Attack Boats to begin patrols, and the aircraft carriers began sending out F-22N fighters and RAH-66 helicopters to aid in these patrols. The Juntastanian ships clearly showed up on the radar systems of the GWO Force, but they didn't fire at the Juntastanians.
Juntastan Ascendacy
03-07-2008, 01:15
A message to the Justanian Ascendancy leader.

We here at Daiwiz, do not take kindly to threats of any kind, to anyone, without a proper reason. We currently have a single satellite orbiting in orbit and that is for weather. Our armed forces are mighty here at daiwiz, while we may be small. One soldier fights with the ferocity of 10 other soldiers. We have sent a portion of our current naval forces, which include:

1 CVL carrier (TUSSDS Neoble)
1 Ohio class SSBN (TUSSDS Kran)
2 Barracuda class subs (TUSSDS Carrn and TUSSDS Paink)
2 Iroquois class destroyers (TUSSDS strgn TUSSDS Pt'a)
1 Bismark class battleship (TUSSDS GrosseBoom acting as the flagship)
10 PT boats (a crew of 10, 4 torpedo tubes, 2 depth charge launchers, 2 50 mm machine guns, 2 15 mm aa guns, 2 assault boats per)

1 battalion of TUSSDMC
5 TOW armed Humvees

2 UH 60 Black hawks for marine deployment, and minesweeping
2 Commanchee's
10 M18 Harrier jets

If you continue the ludicrous threat to eliminate satelites controlled by, and piratical acts against, nations that have done no wrong, we will not be able to avoid conflict between our nations, wether it be our controlled forces, or unforseen terrorist events.

We advise you to show caution. Our nation has invested heavily in nuclear weapons.
We are quite capable, if we desire, to shoot down your satelites. We do not sih to do, but we could if we so desired. We have missles that are quite capable of finding your satelites and then using a small, nuclear detonation to destroy it.
However, if you turn over the proper schematics and documentations PROVING that it is incapable of taking photographs or recording radio or television images of our great people, we will grant you permission to enter our sacred airspace.
Please forward said documents and the satelites schematics to our Ministry of Technology & Sciensce. Once they authenticate the authenticity and truthfullness of the documents and schematics, we will allow your nation to dock on the West Coast unopposed and allow said satelite to continue entering our airspace with our gracious and magnaminous permission.
Juntastan Ascendacy
03-07-2008, 01:16
A message to the Justanian Ascendancy leader.

We here at Daiwiz, do not take kindly to threats of any kind, to anyone, without a proper reason. We currently have a single satellite orbiting in orbit and that is for weather. Our armed forces are mighty here at daiwiz, while we may be small. One soldier fights with the ferocity of 10 other soldiers. We have sent a portion of our current naval forces, which include:

1 CVL carrier (TUSSDS Neoble)
1 Ohio class SSBN (TUSSDS Kran)
2 Barracuda class subs (TUSSDS Carrn and TUSSDS Paink)
2 Iroquois class destroyers (TUSSDS strgn TUSSDS Pt'a)
1 Bismark class battleship (TUSSDS GrosseBoom acting as the flagship)
10 PT boats (a crew of 10, 4 torpedo tubes, 2 depth charge launchers, 2 50 mm machine guns, 2 15 mm aa guns, 2 assault boats per)

1 battalion of TUSSDMC
5 TOW armed Humvees

2 UH 60 Black hawks for marine deployment, and minesweeping
2 Commanchee's
10 M18 Harrier jets

If you continue the ludicrous threat to eliminate satelites controlled by, and piratical acts against, nations that have done no wrong, we will not be able to avoid conflict between our nations, wether it be our controlled forces, or unforseen terrorist events.

We advise you to show caution. Our nation has invested heavily in nuclear weapons.
We are quite capable, if we desire, to shoot down your satelites. We do not sih to do, but we could if we so desired. We have missles that are quite capable of finding your satelites and then using a small, nuclear detonation to destroy it.
However, if you turn over the proper schematics and documentations PROVING that it is incapable of taking photographs or recording radio or television images of our great people, we will grant you permission to enter our sacred airspace.
Please forward said documents and the satelites schematics to our Ministry of Technology & Sciensce. Once they authenticate the authenticity and truthfullness of the documents and schematics, we will allow your nation to dock on the West Coast unopposed and allow said satelite to continue entering our airspace with our gracious and magnaminous permission.
Greywatch
03-07-2008, 01:17
Greywatch Response:
To: Juntastan Ascendacy

To begin with, satillites cannot violate your airspace because they sit in outer space, not in the air. Therefore, your claim means nothing. Two, where is your proof that anyone has even cared enough to take pictures of your nation? Three, how long do you think you're going to last if you become enemies of the rest of the world?
We wish to know your response to this.

From,
Greywatch Council

OOC: Rule of thumb, you have to have 100 million people before you can start developing nuclear weapons
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542151
East Congaree
03-07-2008, 01:23
The East Congaree cruisers began taunting the Juntastanians, firing flares up into the air that landed just one mile outside their range of jurisdiction. Whiskey class submarines pulled in further, going just 53 miles off the Juntastanian coast. Meanwhile, 20 of the gunboats were dispatched and sent back to 100 miles to assist in the Grand World Order's patrol.
Juntastan Ascendacy
03-07-2008, 01:23
Greetings: Our Sattelites will remain in orbit, as it is crucial we have a digital model of the planet. If you attack our sattelites, The Command Cruiser Penguin in Flight will be forced to reduce your nation to a glassy crater. Thank you.

**Highly Incrypted Telegraph to Penguin Protection***

It would seem your allies are threatening you. We here in Juntastan have quite a few nuclear missiles. We will be willing to give you some and a donation in gold, if you will assist the juntastanese people.
We request that you become an exclusive supplier of supplies the Juntastanese people need during this crisis. We will sing a Treaty of Nuetrality with you and also will pay you in gold.
As a small nation, you will need friends. Juntastan would like to be your friend, and aid your small nation in being able to resist, in the future, the threats of other larger nations.
If you agree, send a message back to the Palace of Nobility , and we will allow your ships to cross into Juntastan, where we will load gold and nuclear missiles on Penguin in Flight.
Daiwiz
03-07-2008, 01:23
_____ 75 miles off the coast of Juntastan

The loan PT boat had arrived and began to search around looking for threats messaging that it had located none at the moment. Suddenly it noticed a frieghter of Avalican design with a Justanian religious boat suspiciously close by, and so decided to investigate.....

The Small fleet was a mere 122 miles of off Juntastan, when it received the PT boat's message. They hoped that it was not an act of piracy, as they, above all others, hoped to avoid a conflict with Juntastan. Quickly, the carrier began to launch a pair of Harriers, to go and assist the PT boat if needed, and to scout for any threats. What would happen would surprise many of them...

_____ a message to the Juntastanian ruler

We do not respond well to threats, I shall let you know. We would have been quite willing to offer the schematics to you, had you asked for them. Instead, you responded to all nations with threats. I am also quite doubtful you even have enough missiles, or warheads for what you are proposing! We will not hand over the schematics, and the sattelite will remain in orbit! However we assure you that we are not taking pictures of your holy lands. You are not significant enough for us to have reason to do so! Our fleet will take up positions to defend any, and all merchant ships that we find in international waters. If you fire on anyone, or anything, that is not yours, wether it be in your so called "airspace" or in any waters, we will be forced to take action. You still ahve the right to board ships in your waters, and to fire on them if they are terrorist, or the like, but that is only within 50 miles of coastal waters. We cannot control what our many terrorists, since we have high crime, may do! After all it's impossible to control terrorists. Please be advised that we will attack, and eliminate your navy, if you so wish. If you are willing to withdraw the demands that you have brought up, we will be willing to open trade of our trout market to you.

Kolitburo, Draith Dr'klow
East Congaree
03-07-2008, 01:31
To: The Penguin Protection Department of Foreign Affairs

From: The East Congaree Freedom Party

Please refrain from listening to a man who believes his own airspace goes up several hundred kilometers above his nation. In addition, your support for the Grand World Order and East Congaree will earn you 10,000 taels of silver, 100 taels of gold, and a good name in East Congaree's foriegn diplomacy record. I highly advise you stay on the correct side.


East Congaree Freedom Party Chairman and East Congaree President- Reginald Deere
Juntastan Ascendacy
03-07-2008, 01:40
The East Congaree cruisers began taunting the Juntastanians, firing flares up into the air that landed just one mile outside their range of jurisdiction. Whiskey class submarines pulled in further, going just 53 miles off the Juntastanian coast. Meanwhile, 20 of the gunboats were dispatched and sent back to 100 miles to assist in the Grand World Order's patrol.


The Juntastanese Self Defense Fleet retreats, while laying down a thick layer of mines.
Warlord Major Martin Vates of the House of Vates turns to Warrior junior grade Philip Agamenon of House of Agemenon. "Make sure to lay the mines down to a level of 300 feet. Also, if the Penguin Protection fleet shows up, clear a path for them to enter FreePort." Saluting with a bow and a clenched fist to his heart, Warrior Junior Grade Philip Agemenon relays the orders to the three mine laying ships Glory, Powndah's Terror and Pride.
The mines are proximity mines that explode on contact of a metal body. However, these mines may be made inert if sent a coded message from the Juntastan Self Defense Fleet's flagship Melinda Vates. If the Penguin Protection fleet shows a willingness to the kind and magnaminous offer of the Juntastan government, the signal will allow their ships to dock in FreePort while being turned on once they pass in their ships wake.
Standing on the deck of the Melinda Vates, WarLord Commander General Simon Vates of the House of Vates shakes his head. "Damn pwandah barbarians! Look at their foolish behavior..Only a decadent society so culturally backward and barbaric as theirs would turn out so undisciplined filthy powandahs. Thank the Great Belief, we are not as they!"
The rest of the crew, both Warriors Junior Grade, Warriors Petty Grade and Warriors Warrant Grade shake their head at the foolish barbarians. "Is it any wonder their so filthy! Look at them act like..ANIMALS! I heard that their so culturally barbaric that most of them don't even know THEIR Scriptures by heart, no can they even recite an epic poem! Just looking at these powandah thugs makes me feel as if I have been infected!". the crew, with a shudder, turn away from the barbarians, the sight of their disgusting barbarian behavior and obvious cultural primitiveness, not to mention their lack of hygine feeling them with a sense of revulsion close to being physically sick.
Some of the Warriors junior Grade, being dissmissed by the WarLord Commander General Simon Vates head down to be purified by the Clerics from the ritual uncleanliness that has infected them by having looked at the powandah barbarians. In the hold, their heads are shaved by the Cleric and they are scrubbed with dermal removers, after taking internal concoctions to purify themselves of any possible germs or disease the filthy barbarians might have breathed their way.
Shaking his head, WarLord Commander General Simon Vates wonder how such obvious culturally backwards barbarians with their filthy habits were ever able to produce anything of any value. Sighing, he shakes his masked head and goes to his Ready Room to meditate and cleanse himself of the putrid sound of their barbarian powandah jeers. Barbarians! he thinks.
Juntastan Ascendacy
03-07-2008, 02:04
Greywatch Response:
To: Juntastan Ascendacy

To begin with, satillites cannot violate your airspace because they sit in outer space, not in the air. Therefore, your claim means nothing. Two, where is your proof that anyone has even cared enough to take pictures of your nation? Three, how long do you think you're going to last if you become enemies of the rest of the world?
We wish to know your response to this.

From,
Greywatch Council

OOC: Rule of thumb, you have to have 100 million people before you can start developing nuclear weapons
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542151



Our rebuttal is:

1) We claim ownership of all air above Juntastan and geosynchrous orbit above Juntastan. This is to keep prying barbarians from violating the tenets of the Great Belief.

2) As the Great Belief teaches, the Juntastan people are culturally superior to the rest of the world. Our art, our sculpture , our books, poems, e.t.c is like the difference between a place of marble versus a primitive Crom-Magnon who still lived in a cave.
As such, we know you desire to imitate our culture in a form of cultural piracy. Since we do not allow you anywhere but in the cities on the West Coast of Juntastan, it only makes sense your trying to be sneaky and use your primitive, warlike mind to rob the Juntastan people of their cultural greatness.
The Great Belief does not even allow you to learn our language, the Great Belief forbid you imitating our art or culture! Barbarians have always envied their cultural superiors, and since they can not produce cultural artifacts as great as their superiors, namely ourselves, they desire to act on their savage desires to loot and kill.
Further, your societies are ones of barbarism, crime and unmitigated savagary. it is impossible that people who live in such savage, barbaric lands could EVER have a culture as fine, civilized and spiritual as the Juntastanese people!
Therefore, it is totally reasonable that the envious barbarian powandahs of the world want to commit their cultural piracy, thinking the Juntastanese people fools!

3) We do not seek to be enemies of the world. Even now as your savage nations gather to ravage our cities and steal our art, were not your enemies. If we were satisfied you were not violating the Great belief nor attempting to accomplish cultural piracy with your satelites, we would graciously grant you the right to be in our airspace.
However, I doubt you can understand what I am saying. Your civilization is based on barbarism, violence, brutality and savagary. It makes perfect sense that you take this oppurtunity to prove the Great Belief true by acting like barbarians and bringing your savage war fleet to attack a peaceful, nuetral nation.
All we require is the proper proof that your not spying on us or taking pictures of our cities, temples in an attempt to make up for your cultural backwardness and social barbarism. If you choose to live in filth and to act like mindless brutes, thats fine. But we will not have you violate our airspace, we will not have you steal our culture, ritually pollute our cities nor mock the Great Belief with spy satelites.

Your proving everything the Scriptures say about powandah. You are savages, as your fleet of aggression proves. A civilized people would wish to discuss why we feel as we do, and being civilized seek to negotiate in a manner that would solve the problem to the satisfaction of all. Instead, you act like savage beasts, licking your chops to plunder us and rob us of our culture.

We wish not to fight. We wish for you to negotiate with us, and give us assurances your not cultural pirates as your fleet seems to indicate, desiring loot and destruction. All we want is for you to respect our faith in the Great Belief, and not act like heavy handed barbarian powandah who are basically thieves, wishing to break into Juntastan, rob us and rape our souls of the Great Belief and it's tenets.

if your civilized human beings, then lets negotiate. If, however, your just savage barbarians, then keep doing what your doing.

So, which are you?
East Congaree
03-07-2008, 02:04
A Whiskey class sub went through a field of mines and collided into one, having its's self blown up. At 51 miles off the Juntastanian coast, it was still in international waters, and this was an act of agression. 20 Whiskey submarines carried two SS-N-3 cruise missiles, all of which they launched. With this, 40 flying 1000kg high-explosive warheads were inbound for the Juntastanian capital. The other 9 remaining submarines (and the other one before it was sunk) had their missiles taken off their load and only carried the usual torpedoes and single AA Gun.

Fifty of the MiG-17s took off to blaze their cannons away at Juntastanian ships now within their range of jurisdiction. They carried one 37mm cannon and two 23 mm ones, along with two 300 pound bombs. Meanwhile, the galveston class cruisers stayed stationary while firing their guns at the retreating Juntastanian ships. The Iowa class battleship and arliegh-burke destroyer followed, with the arliegh-burke firing all its' harpoon missiles over three different Juntastanian combat ships.
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 02:08
Official Message from the ASD
Any attempt to attack our Satellites will be met by force. Our satellites will be passing over in five hours. DO NOT attempt to shoot them down. This is your first and only warning!
Greywatch
03-07-2008, 02:14
Our rebuttal is:

1) We claim ownership of all air above Juntastan and geosynchrous orbit above Juntastan. This is to keep prying barbarians from violating the tenets of the Great Belief.

2) As the Great Belief teaches, the Juntastan people are culturally superior to the rest of the world. Our art, our sculpture , our books, poems, e.t.c is like the difference between a place of marble versus a primitive Crom-Magnon who still lived in a cave.
As such, we know you desire to imitate our culture in a form of cultural piracy. Since we do not allow you anywhere but in the cities on the West Coast of Juntastan, it only makes sense your trying to be sneaky and use your primitive, warlike mind to rob the Juntastan people of their cultural greatness.
The Great Belief does not even allow you to learn our language, the Great Belief forbid you imitating our art or culture! Barbarians have always envied their cultural superiors, and since they can not produce cultural artifacts as great as their superiors, namely ourselves, they desire to act on their savage desires to loot and kill.
Further, your societies are ones of barbarism, crime and unmitigated savagary. it is impossible that people who live in such savage, barbaric lands could EVER have a culture as fine, civilized and spiritual as the Juntastanese people!
Therefore, it is totally reasonable that the envious barbarian powandahs of the world want to commit their cultural piracy, thinking the Juntastanese people fools!

3) We do not seek to be enemies of the world. Even now as your savage nations gather to ravage our cities and steal our art, were not your enemies. If we were satisfied you were not violating the Great belief nor attempting to accomplish cultural piracy with your satelites, we would graciously grant you the right to be in our airspace.
However, I doubt you can understand what I am saying. Your civilization is based on barbarism, violence, brutality and savagary. It makes perfect sense that you take this oppurtunity to prove the Great Belief true by acting like barbarians and bringing your savage war fleet to attack a peaceful, nuetral nation.
All we require is the proper proof that your not spying on us or taking pictures of our cities, temples in an attempt to make up for your cultural backwardness and social barbarism. If you choose to live in filth and to act like mindless brutes, thats fine. But we will not have you violate our airspace, we will not have you steal our culture, ritually pollute our cities nor mock the Great Belief with spy satelites.

Your proving everything the Scriptures say about powandah. You are savages, as your fleet of aggression proves. A civilized people would wish to discuss why we feel as we do, and being civilized seek to negotiate in a manner that would solve the problem to the satisfaction of all. Instead, you act like savage beasts, licking your chops to plunder us and rob us of our culture.

We wish not to fight. We wish for you to negotiate with us, and give us assurances your not cultural pirates as your fleet seems to indicate, desiring loot and destruction. All we want is for you to respect our faith in the Great Belief, and not act like heavy handed barbarian powandah who are basically thieves, wishing to break into Juntastan, rob us and rape our souls of the Great Belief and it's tenets.

if your civilized human beings, then lets negotiate. If, however, your just savage barbarians, then keep doing what your doing.

So, which are you?

Greywatch Response:

To put this blatantly, we don't give a flying [explative] about you, your nation, your culture, or your 'art.' It means absolutely nothing to us. You're new, we haven't even heard of the small land you call a nation until today. And also, if you're trying to make enemies, you're doing a poor job of it, you CANNOT claim space, it is open to everyone. Nothing you believe will ever change that. In this case, it's majority rule. If you believe that every other nation, including the ones that possess populations that making yours seem like a pre-school, actually are trying to mimic anything you, you will find that hollow lies don't trump facts. Those who have been around longer don't typically mimic newcomers unless said newcomers' ideas are brilliant, yours are far from that. Greywatch is remaining nuetral, though we suggest you get a reality check and don't threaten or insult anyone else. You are, at the moment, looking down the barrel of a gun because your message was so poorly worded; don't make your situation worse.

From,
The Greywatch Council
Gun Manufacturers
03-07-2008, 02:16
As the satellite officially named Stormsat III crossed above Juntastan Ascendacy, the satellite relayed its images to the ASoGM Weather Bureau. The ASoGM Weather Bureau would then analyze the data and send it along to the weatherpeople on the various news channels. Also receiving the images was the ASoGM military intelligence service, as the Stormsat series of satellites were actually reconnaissance satellites performing double duty as weather satellites. The service was interested in what the Juntastan Ascendacy had to hide, and whether they posed a nuisance to the ASoGM.
Juntastan Ascendacy
03-07-2008, 02:20
A Whiskey class sub went through a field of mines and collided into one, having its's self blown up. At 51 miles off the Juntastanian coast, it was still in international waters, and this was an act of agression. 20 Whiskey submarines carried two SS-N-3 cruise missiles, all of which they launched. With this, 40 flying 1000kg high-explosive warheads were inbound for the Juntastanian capital. The other 9 remaining submarines (and the other one before it was sunk) had their missiles taken off their load and only carried the usual torpedoes and single AA Gun.

Fifty of the MiG-17s took off to blaze their cannons away at Juntastanian ships now within their range of jurisdiction. They carried one 37mm cannon and two 23 mm ones, along with two 300 pound bombs. Meanwhile, the galveston class cruisers stayed stationary while firing their guns at the retreating Juntastanian ships. The Iowa class battleship and arliegh-burke destroyer followed, with the arliegh-burke firing all its' harpoon missiles over three different Juntastanian combat ships.

In return, the Juntastan Self Defense airforce's Gryphons fly toward where the planes came from and drop bombs that release a deadly gas.
The gas, a deadly gaseous nuerotoxin, drifts all over the ship, causing death to all who breathe it.
Further planes, vectoring in drop bombs that release the same deadly nuerotoxin gas, causing instant death to whomever breathes it.
Several frigates follow this with their main guns, shooting large shells filled alternatively with (HE) High Explosive charges and the deadly nuerotoxin gas. The Gryphons attack the PT boats sent illegally into Juntastan waters with Sidewinder missles and also, a guided missle that dispersed a large cloud of nuerotoxin gas.
The coastal guns on the shores of Juntastan continously fire HE rounds, with alternative rounds of nuerotoxin gas. The guns aim at the ships outside of the mine field, continously shower a mixture of HE shells and gas shells.

Meanwhile, the Juntastan Self Defense Navy dispatches a destroyer, the Glory of House Vates to being more airforces, basically outside the effectiuve range of the barbarians. The plains each are loaded with M.O.A.B (Mother of all Bombs), weighing 5,000 pounds. Some bombs are HE and some are a different form of gas that eats at exposed flesh like acid. Flying at the upper envelope, the crew drops the bombs on the destroyers, exploding and emiting the flesh eating gas.

Two Juntastan ships sink. Survivors are picked up, and after being ritually cleansed from coming in contact with the powandah's weapons, they aid the Destroyers crew in loading the guns with three different ordinances: 1) HE shells, neurotoxin gas shells, and flesh eating gas shells.
Juntastan Ascendacy
03-07-2008, 02:24
Official Message from the ASD
Any attempt to attack our Satellites will be met by force. Our satellites will be passing over in five hours. DO NOT attempt to shoot them down. This is your first and only warning!

We will show mercy to you, since the time is not up yet.

We ask that you render the proper documentation proving that your satelite is not a spy satelite. Please forward all schematics and documentation to the Ministry of Technology and Science.
The Grand World Order
03-07-2008, 02:27
((OOC: Godmod, you have to let him use his CIWS systems. I don't think an air wing would do to well against say, a series of Goalkeeper turrets.))
Juntastan Ascendacy
03-07-2008, 02:28
As the satellite officially named Stormsat III crossed above Juntastan Ascendacy, the satellite relayed its images to the ASoGM Weather Bureau. The ASoGM Weather Bureau would then analyze the data and send it along to the weatherpeople on the various news channels. Also receiving the images was the ASoGM military intelligence service, as the Stormsat series of satellites were actually reconnaissance satellites performing double duty as weather satellites. The service was interested in what the Juntastan Ascendacy had to hide, and whether they posed a nuisance to the ASoGM.

The Ministry of Technology & Sciensce Arch Aristocra Ben Vates gets a report from the secret satelite installation in the Hellene Mountains, noting the spying satelite.
"Continue tracking it" he orders. Taking the sheaf of papers , he prepares a brief for the Arch Aristocra and also for the Warlord Commander General of the Sentinel.
At the meeting of The Sentinel, the officers discuss means and methods of dealing with the barbarians. a decision, to be carried out in the future called Operation Purity is passed onto the Arch Aristocras desk. She sings it, authorizing the operation..in the future.
Juntastan Ascendacy
03-07-2008, 02:31
((OOC: Godmod, you have to let him use his CIWS systems. I don't think an air wing would do to well against say, a series of Goalkeeper turrets.))

((OOC: Ok, but we have incvested a lot of money into gas weapons and delivery systems. Sort of cheap weapons of mass destruction))
Juntastan Ascendacy
03-07-2008, 02:38
Greywatch Response:

To put this blatantly, we don't give a flying [explative] about you, your nation, your culture, or your 'art.' It means absolutely nothing to us. You're new, we haven't even heard of the small land you call a nation until today. And also, if you're trying to make enemies, you're doing a poor job of it, you CANNOT claim space, it is open to everyone. Nothing you believe will ever change that. In this case, it's majority rule. If you believe that every other nation, including the ones that possess populations that making yours seem like a pre-school, actually are trying to mimic anything you, you will find that hollow lies don't trump facts. Those who have been around longer don't typically mimic newcomers unless said newcomers' ideas are brilliant, yours are far from that. Greywatch is remaining nuetral, though we suggest you get a reality check and don't threaten or insult anyone else. You are, at the moment, looking down the barrel of a gun because your message was so poorly worded; don't make your situation worse.

From,
The Greywatch Council

From the Council of The Seven ruling Families:

We appreciate your ability to act like civilized human beings.

Our culture is the first one, and is the direct descendants of the Hellenic and Mycanean people. Our ancestors were building magnificent edifices while the rest of you "younger" nations were squatting ewither in drafty caves or mud huts.
These are simple facts, ascertained by history and such. Anyone who can read a history book or such will find confirmation of these facts.
However, that your willing to talk may be a sing that you have reached a rational level of cultural develepment perhaps approaching our own. We would be willing to discuss a Treaty of Nuetrality with you.
You impressed us by your reasoned response. We wish more powandah were like that.
Please contact the Palace of Nobility if your willing to sit down and have a civilized discussion with us as rational, culturally advanced equals.
Gun Manufacturers
03-07-2008, 02:41
The Ministry of Technology & Sciensce Arch Aristocra Ben Vates gets a report from the secret satelite installation in the Hellene Mountains, noting the spying satelite.
"Continue tracking it" he orders. Taking the sheaf of papers , he prepares a brief for the Arch Aristocra and also for the Warlord Commander General of the Sentinel.
At the meeting of The Sentinel, the officers discuss means and methods of dealing with the barbarians. a decision, to be carried out in the future called Operation Purity is passed onto the Arch Aristocras desk. She sings it, authorizing the operation..in the future.

The Internet Weather Watch, or IWW, was doing its hourly webcast of the weather around the world. Several pictures were shown of weather systems, and if any people from the Juntastan Ascendacy were watching, they might notice a pair of pictures of their nation and its weather. Bob Bramble, IWW's leading meteorologist droned on, occasionally pointing to the pictures. In one instance, it looked as if Bob Bramble pointed to a picture of the Juntastan Ascendacy, in which a building could be seen. As the webcast progressed, it eventually switched to ASoGM local weather.
Imperial isa
03-07-2008, 02:42
ooc love to see what you do if you know spaceships from other planets are up there looking down too
East Congaree
03-07-2008, 02:47
((OOC: Juntastan, keep in mind all my ships and submarines there have AA guns. The Arleigh-Burke and the Galveston class cruisers have SAMs, and the Arleigh-Burke has two CIWS.))
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 02:47
In return, the Juntastan Self Defense airforce's Gryphons fly toward where the planes came from and drop bombs that release a deadly gas.
The gas, a deadly gaseous nuerotoxin, drifts all over the ship, causing death to all who breathe it.
Further planes, vectoring in drop bombs that release the same deadly nuerotoxin gas, causing instant death to whomever breathes it.
Several frigates follow this with their main guns, shooting large shells filled alternatively with (HE) High Explosive charges and the deadly nuerotoxin gas. The Gryphons attack the PT boats sent illegally into Juntastan waters with Sidewinder missles and also, a guided missle that dispersed a large cloud of nuerotoxin gas.
The coastal guns on the shores of Juntastan continously fire HE rounds, with alternative rounds of nuerotoxin gas. The guns aim at the ships outside of the mine field, continously shower a mixture of HE shells and gas shells.

Meanwhile, the Juntastan Self Defense Navy dispatches a destroyer, the Glory of House Vates to being more airforces, basically outside the effectiuve range of the barbarians. The plains each are loaded with M.O.A.B (Mother of all Bombs), weighing 5,000 pounds. Some bombs are HE and some are a different form of gas that eats at exposed flesh like acid. Flying at the upper envelope, the crew drops the bombs on the destroyers, exploding and emiting the flesh eating gas.

Two Juntastan ships sink. Survivors are picked up, and after being ritually cleansed from coming in contact with the powandah's weapons, they aid the Destroyers crew in loading the guns with three different ordinances: 1) HE shells, neurotoxin gas shells, and flesh eating gas shells.

Official Message from the ASD
You have engaged in international terrorism. We are now at war!

Can Com, Under CMB Alert
"Balls in our court on this one folks." Said Admiral Carr. "Have our Navy pull out of Hanharria and randezvous with our other fleets. Move em to Juntasta Now! Have ABM satellites and ground systems activate immediately and activate all LFC reserves."

Aboard the CNS Mounty, Flagship for the Marcom fifth and sixth fleets
"alright people you heard the order. Head for Juntasta now! we will meet up with fourth and tenth fleet 1 000km off the shore of jutasta."

Across the ASD
As tenth and fourth fleets moved out every ABM site in the ASD and the State of Canada came online and all three large ASDSS craft moved into an Orbit that would come into "Juntasta controlled "airspace"".
Greywatch
03-07-2008, 02:48
Greywatch Response:

If you want to ask for nuetrality you're to remember one thing, your ancestors focused on themselves, no one else. You have no knowledge, and thus no right to claim what other nations were or were not doing during the times of your ancestors. As for 'youth,' we are much larger, and have been in the world longer that you may be willing to believe. That however, is a discussion of opinion that will most likely, have no end, knowing human nature. As for your behavior, if you wish to have allies, you'd best be prepared to treat others with the respect you so wish to have. If you haven't noticed, the 'barbarians' at your borders are angry citizens of the world who reject your claims and ideas. You are responsible for creating the wolves that now gnaw at your ankles. If you wish to have any hope of earning any percentage of respect from Greywatch, drop your terms (or at least explain them for they sound offensive) and begin refering to us as human beings because, whether or not you're willing to accept it, that's what we are. If this can be met then you can expect a diplomat or two to be sent promptly to discuss the situation.
Penguin Protection
03-07-2008, 02:49
((Whoops. Sorry, guys.))

((ANyone who saw the previous post that was here forget it. Editing in progress))

Message to Juntastan, Scrambled:



Juntastan, we have considered your offer. We will remain neutral, but will dispatch a force to observe. In our opinion, your measures are a bit drastic, but We can help you. We can provide systems which can temporarily blind satellites as they pass over your nation, without harming them. This is accomplished with a low powered laser, which reduces the image to glare. We hope these devices may solve this conflict, and extend the olive branch of peace. As a gesture of good faith, I, myself, am currently on an express flight to Juntastan, so I may meet you in person, and negotiate. May blood not be shed.

~Kysito, Premier of the United Socialist States of Penguin Protection.
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 02:59
OOC:
Orbat:
Combined fleets:
10x Ford Class Aircraft Carrier
15x Battlecruiser
50xType 45 Destroyer
75xFC65
25xSSN
10XMarine Expeditionary Unit Carrier (essentially a light aircraft/stovl carrier) (total complement: 16510)

Navel Air wing:
25x Awacs
125xInterceptor
150xStrike Fighter
75xSTOVL
25xASW Chopper

Marine complement:
500xMBT (2000 crew)
800XIFV (2400crew +5700 Carried)
500xSTOVL (500 crew)
500xAttack Copter (1000crew)
125x V-22 (50 crew+ 840 carried)
2500 Crewmen (crew the Carriers)
500 Assault Squads (5000 Marines)
50 Heavy Squads (500 marines)
20 Hq Squads (200 Marines)
(15000 troops)
The Grand World Order
03-07-2008, 03:25
((OOC: You can't have spacewarships in an MT thread.))
Imperial isa
03-07-2008, 03:35
((OOC: You can't have spacewarships in an MT thread.))


ooc
side not love to see them try a Ultimatum to Remove one
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 03:36
((OOC: You can't have spacewarships in an MT thread.))

ooc: aw crap I was thinking pmt my bad. EDITED!!!!
Imperial isa
03-07-2008, 03:39
ooc: aw crap I was thinking pmt my bad. EDITED!!!!

OOC i bad i missed your post *edit other*
East Congaree
03-07-2008, 03:43
As the aircraft approached, SAMs across the Arleigh burke destroyer and the Galveston cruisers filled up the air with missiles, which were soon backed up by the sound of dozens of anti-aircraft guns. Two CIWS phalanx guns on the Arleigh Bruke spun around, making a terrible sound. In addition, the three inch guns on all the gunboats served as AA gun in this scenario, sending shells skyward. What seemed to be a black cloud covered the task force, certainly cauisng problems whoever lay above it. However, one galveston class cruiser and twelve gunboats were destroyed by the air raid. As the fleet further pounded the Juntastan Confederacy navy, two more galveston class cruiser and thirty-five gunboats were sunk. In addition, one more whiskey class submarine (one carrying only torpedoes and an AA gun) was destroyed by the minefield.
Daiwiz
03-07-2008, 03:50
_______ a message to the justanian ruler

"It has come to our attention that you have mined international waters! This, as you may know, would be considered an act of war! We will be stationed on high alert, and will be thinking about what to do. I do not beleive you have any such gases! Our PT boat picked up a few survivors, to assit the East Congareen fleet, and they tell a different story. They tell of no flesh eating gas, and the neuro toxin was merely chlorine, in dust form! We have also seen the losses of your fleet and they tell a different story. While you have used a weapon that is an afront to humanity, we will temporarily overlook this action of lunacy. You may have unknowingly forced retaliation on your populace! I suggest that you remove your demands, and allow allied forces to land, so as to remove these weapons, so that you are not tempted. We also reserve the right to remove, any and all mines that are within 49 miles of your coast. You have 24 hrs to respond, at which you will be fired upon, by the whole of our military might."

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow

________The Ministry of Defense

"They have fired upon our allies with chlorine gases! Do they not have, anything that is too dirty for them?!" cried out the leader of the navy in a burst of anger.
"We must send the rest of our navy, and our forces to support ours, and our allies, troops! The scum must pay...." The Chief of home defense said darkly.
"If we begin a war with them, there will be much bloodshed abviously. They think of us as animals, and not even very well liked ones at that! They will commit many, inhuman, cruelties against our troops and people if we begin a war!" The Home Defense minister yelled, so as to get above the din of the other discussions.
"We will put it to a vote, as is the norm. Either way we will send more forces, to dissuade them from anymore attacks." Said Graith, the most powerful in the Kolitburo.
The rest of the forces were sent en route to Juntastan, wether they were to assault his forces or not.....

________ The PTs and UH 60 Blackhawks begin to launch

"Get those metal nets on there tight! Dont wan't any being blown off by the mines!" yelled the commander of the PT boats, as he was hit by another wave.
They were preparing to move out, so as to demine the waters around Juntastan, along with the 2 UH 60 Blackhawks. The metal chain nets they were attaching to the bow of their PTs, were to hit the depth charges causing them to explode. The UH 60s were to drop sheets of metal, weighted into the water, which then would cause the mines to explode on contact.
Izistan
03-07-2008, 04:01
...The anchor turned and smiled at the camera.

"And in other news today, the Philomath Society has announced that it will make textbooks in Chemistry and Orbital Mechanics free on the internet to all of humanity. This announcement comes after popular news magazine The Weekly Migraine released a stunning expose' on the lack of accurate science reporting in the international media."

"Now here's Yuri with the current weather in Velkya-"
Penguin Protection
03-07-2008, 04:09
Meanwhile, Above the Blockade, the sky fills with a drone as large bulbous aircraft fly overhead, toward Juntastan. From the blockade position, it is not clear of their purpose. As they fly on over Juntastan, Large objects fall out the back, furthering the illusion that they are bombers. But what is really inside each Parachute guided cylinder is supplies, something the blockading forces do not know.
Gurguvungunit
03-07-2008, 04:23
General Communique
To: Whom it May Concern
From: The Gurguvii Foreign Ministry

We find this entire situation ridiculous, and remonstrate all involved for their egregious medieval stupidity. By any sane standard of international law or human decency, this incident and the related "wars" are neither legal nor justified. Everyone here is in the wrong, and the Gurguvii Foreign Ministry reminds all parties that when you blow up a frigate, hundreds of people can die. Thank you very much,

The Gurguvii Foreign Ministry Department for Dealing with Annoying Small Nations.
Zinaire
03-07-2008, 04:43
Aboard the ZSV Tropical Promise, Rear Admiral (Class I) Duncan Smith had been receiving news from the front lines. The news worried him greatly as it seemed that the Juntastanians weren't stopping at piracy. There were reports of minefields, noxious gases and heavy casualties. What was supposed to be a deterrent operation was turning ugly.

The horror stories from off the Juntastanian coast had been relayed back to Zinairian naval command as well and Rear Admiral Smith could only hope that they would receive an order to turn around. And soon. At their current speed, the strike group would be reaching the conflicted area in two days.
East Congaree
03-07-2008, 04:44
To: Daiwiz Department of the Navy, Daiwiz head of State

From: East Congaree Presidential Office


With your nation having a small military and few civilian numbers, we will be more than willing to dispatch 12 gunboats from our task force to assist your task force assisting in the invasion of Juntastan. As an act of your own goodwill, your nation will also be protected from an invasion by Juntastan or one of its' co-belligerents/allies.

With hopes of new friendship,

East Congaree Freedom Party Chairman and East Congaree President-Reginald Deere


To: Penguin Protection Department of Foriegn Affairs, Penguin Protection Head Of State

From: East Congaree Department of Foreign Affairs, East Congaree Presidential Office

We once again stress that you pick the right side in this war, and we will reward you doing so with a newly updated amount of 20,000 taels of silver in addition to 100 taels of gold. Any naval force you send will also be backed up by twelve East Congaree gunboats. Do not take kindly to Juntastan's requests- we can prove to be a much more powerful and loyal friend than he is.

With the best of hope,

East Congaree Freedom Party Chairman and East Congaree President- Reginald Deere

East Congaree Secretary of State- Jethro Williams



To: Zinaire Head of State, Department of the Navy

From: East Congaree Presidential Office


We congratulate your sending of forces to stop Juntastan's attempted hegemony over international waters, and wish that your forces continue forth. We are sending another task force to offset the more than expected casualties. This task force will consist of four arliegh-burke class destroyers, twelve galveston class cruiser, one carrier with 79 MiG-21s, one carrier with 90 MiG-29s, ten whiskey class submarines (without missiles- only torpedoes and aa guns) , and 65 gunboats. This task force will assit youroperations with your task force (pairing up with it) if you take place in any of the fighting.

East Congaree Freedom Party Chairman and East Congaree President- Reginald Deere
Third Spanish States
03-07-2008, 05:03
To: Arch Aristocra Melinda Vates, Juntastan Ascendacy
From: Head of State Cecily Lockhelm, Third Spanish States
Subject: Please consider our offer, it is not too late yet

I am afraid that the doomsday clock for your national sovereignty is ticking right now. If you accept our generous offer, we will also volunteer to mediate a peaceful resolution to this insipid conflict with an white peace. The details are as following, and this will grant you the right to exert your unusual beliefs without leading to an unnecessary war that will threaten your people sovereignty, culture and even ethnicity. I hope this message arrives to you before it is too late.

http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13807021&postcount=29
Penguin Protection
03-07-2008, 05:05
Transmission to East Congaree:

Greetings: Has anyone actually thought of trying to resolve this conflict with words, not weapons? Anyway, if you have monitored our activity, you will see that we have dropped devices from our bomber aircraft. These Devices are Remote Detonated Bombs, and I have not yet chosen to detonate them. It is things like this, the threat of violence without it actually happening, or not even threatening, but trying to negotiate, that win wars. Thank you, but I refuse your offer. Try Diplomacy.

~Penguin Premier, Kysito Kalashvok.


Scrambled Transmission to Juntastan, Tight beam.

Greetings: I have informed the attackers that the supply drops were bombs, and I hope they will believe the story. Be stealthy when retrieving the supplies, and continue to consider our offer of the Satellite blinding devices.

~Penguin Premier, Kysito Kalashvok.

((OOC note about the above transmission, and my other posts. Unless I explicitly state so, The Transmissions go only to who they are addressed to. No listening in, our transmissions are tap-proof.
Zackaroth
03-07-2008, 05:15
Because of your complete stupidity and utter lack of diplomatic skill, Zackaroth has begun to print massive amounts of pictures taken from your nation. Hell we are making wallet-sized photos so people can look at when they go to buy something and think " Hah, there angry because i'm looking at this".

In all seriousness though, Zackaroth is already on a high state of alert. If any of your ships even dare to board one of ours in international waters, we will destroy you no questions asked. And you through threats of nuclear war. Try it and we will be getting new glass for our churches from your nation for years to come.

Aimless von strangaild,

High leader of Zackaroth
Zinaire
03-07-2008, 05:18
ZSV Tropical Promise (Gerald R Ford Class Carrier)

RA Smith's hand shook just a tiny bit as he opened the orders from naval command. His face fell as he saw that the orders were not to turn back but to push on full speed ahead to meet a friendly foreign task force. The admiral said a quick prayer then ordered the strike force to increase to full speed. By the following night they would be on the front lines.
Dostanuot Loj
03-07-2008, 05:21
OOC: National waters are 12nm, exclusive economic zone is 200nm. Basicly, within 12nm of his shore he controls all, within 200nm he controls economical shipping, pirate prevention, and such, giving him the right to board ships at will. Simple law here guys.

IC:
Sifting accross a desk of papers in an office of the Sumerian Intelligence Agency, reportsd not even worthy of a permenant analyst were being reviewd by temporary workers and students. Among them was a report on the Juntastan Ascendacy. As the workers reviewd the short report, laughter filled the room. Claims of older civilization then anyone, out of the Agean? This concept was laughable overall, Agean civilization is an infancy compared to Sumer, this was common information anywhere. Secondary was this concept of shooting down satelites. Sumer didn't have any satelites near the area in question, or any reason to care about this area, untill now. Papers were filed, and comments made up the chain of command. When the next line of Sumerian observation satelites were to go up, a small number of them would be designated to keep either a partial eye, or a full eye, on the Juntastan Ascendacy, with various forms of observation, including photographic. The move was a small one, one that no one up the line in the Sumerian government would care about unless push came to shove, but the meaning was clear. Sumer will do as she wishes with space based observation systems, regardless of the wishes of a small country too devoid of civilization to consider any means except demands to secure their privacy.

The laughter didn't last long, more work had to be done. The report and notes were filed to be reviewd higher up, with An's Temple Guard getting a special note to review it. Likely they would fly random and ocasional FJ-12 recce flights for the hell of it. Of course aggressive attempts to prevent, or remove, this reality would very likely bring about a retaliation far greater then the offending action against Sumer.
Chernobyl-Pripyat
03-07-2008, 05:27
ooc: ITT: everyone gets trolled



http://jj.am/gallery/d/44592-1/Successful_troll.jpg
The Beatus
03-07-2008, 05:32
Space over Juntastan

As Jimmy James Industries received no reply to their message, they assumed that it had been understood, and so their satellites continued to orbit over Juntastan. They were satisfied that their message had worked, and legal initiatives would not need to be implemented.
Zinaire
03-07-2008, 05:34
OOC: National waters are 12nm, exclusive economic zone is 200nm. Basicly, within 12nm of his shore he controls all, within 200nm he controls economical shipping, pirate prevention, and such, giving him the right to board ships at will. Simple law here guys.

OOC: My understanding of it is that they control the resources in that water but (to quote a popular resource that people just love to question the validity of when it disagrees with them, i.e. Wikipedia) "cannot regulate or prohibit passage or loitering above, on, or under the surface of the sea, whether innocent or belligerent, within that portion of its exclusive economic zone beyond its territorial sea."
Third Spanish States
03-07-2008, 05:54
Dawkins Award
Category 1: Most Idiotic Religion

Intro

I have been stunned by the quantity of idiotic ideas and memes that has spread both online and offline in the latest years, and sometimes I even felt a compelling urge to put a bullet in my head while reading or watching some of the most retarded examples that make me wonder if there is an unknown disease that makes an apparently healthy human brain by all currently known exams completely useless by lowering IQ to 0, and even more scary was how some governments have been affected by memes. In recognition of all the efforts of human beings in attempts of transcending all known limits of stupidity, idiocy and retardness, the Dawkins Institute has created the Dawkins Award, based on the more known Darwin Award, but while the latter only rewards idiots who manage to kill themselves in incredibly stupid manners, here will shall reward the most idiotic ideas and memes themselves, from bandwagon government policies to religions.

Analysis

This was a very difficult category to judge, specially by a team of nihilist douchebags with graduations which bias, admittedly, considers any religion as essentially an stupid form of escapism created because of the fear of the fact that there is no afterlife. And some of the newest religions had been very strong competitors. One of the strongest ones, particularly because it is a fraudulent supposed religion of a fake country created to address political interests, is an incredibly dumb idea of a polytheistic religion that calls itself "Catholic", which I have addressed before (http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=554320).

The other strong candidate that managed to get into the finals of this "championship" of stupidity is an obscure religion of a country which deserves little more than a footnote in history, if it deserves a footnote at all. It is named Junka, I mean Juntastan, and its people culture is incredibly retarded and anachronistic to the point that some of our shrewd businessmen are already taking advantage of it to scam those idiots. It is a classic case of a people who have shielded themselves from their own retarded nature through bloated egos, and by looking at the piece of turd that is their culture and saying that it is so superior that nobody bar them can see it. And to add to their inferiority complex disguised by egocentric values, they even go to the point of wearing masks to foreigners, probably to hide the mongoloid and retarded appearance of their faces. Their religion is so creative and original that look: it is called Great Belief!

The great belief that they are better than everyone so they stay away from the sad truth they are a bunch of idiots in an idiotic pre-medieval turd that the reforms and revolutions of centuries ago forgot to wipe. But when people like this pose to the world. This is not as notable, but retards with a huge ego are like kids pointing gun to their own heads and pulling triggers for fun, and it seems like they just put the bullet to shoot themselves in the head as "Heavens! The infidels are filming our retarded faces and temples! We must make them think we are not inferior! WAR DUH DUH DUH!"

http://www.doubleviking.com/gw/videogamequotes/pic14.jpg

I won't make delays because we don't need audience as this is the average ranter e-zine but with academic grounding this time. This definitively beats Cathobabbleism and all religions of the world.

And thus we are proud to award the Great Belief and recognize it as the Most Idiotic Religion of the World! Too bad qualitative records are not taken seriously by Guinness, but we take them seriously, and we will be sending this prize to anyone interested, for to it requires a generations effort of idiocy to achieve such level, and we acknowledge such effort, be proud all those who pushed the Great Belief!

*Photo of a Homer Simpson doing the same pose of the Oscar statuette with a retarded smile and facial expression*

CONGRATULATIONS!

Dawkins Award is a publication of Richard Dawkins Institute for Research of Memes, an institution which leverages core skillsets and world-class academic team synergy through sarcastic criticism of Internet and real-life memes to provide readers worldwide with robust, scalable, modern turnkey implementations of flexible, personalized, cutting-edge Internet-enabled e-zines and websites.
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 05:54
General report
The two combined Marcom Fleets were rapidly getting closer together and overhead ASDS satellites began taking pictures including ground penetrating and thermal images in order to determine the extent of the enemy shore defenses.
East Congaree
03-07-2008, 06:46
MiG-17s had begun their operations of attacking every Juntastanian combat ship they could find. Through the nightand bullets opened up on Juntastanian ships as bombs fell 35 miles off the Juntastanian coast. The MiG-17s had been updated to have a much larger fuel capacity- which came with smaller bombs- along with the ability to operate at night. They would whiz down, spraying their cannon rounds onto Juntastanian ships before rising, turning around, and then going forward again to hopefully have both of their 300 pound bombs hit the Juntastanian ships. They wouldn't expect to see any Juntastanian vessels in three days or so, with a few night raids they would expect to destroy a navy they believed to have less than 100 vessels, despite what the Juntastanians would say. If they had 100, and each MiG sunk one ship that night, half of their navy would be resididing at the bottom of the ocean. On a bad note, though, 22 MiGs were downed that night, one of which had the Second in command of the raid.

The Arliegh-Burke launched her entire load of Tomohawk cruise missiles at the Juntastan capital that night to back up the some 40 missiles with 1000kg warheads launched at the capital from the Whiskey class subs earlier that day. The fate of the missiles was unkown, but it was assumed that a great amount of the city-including its' supposedly lovely and ancient religious sights- was destroyed. The city was made into a grid, and two missiles were to be launched each square combining the total number of missiles launched from the Arliegh Burke and from the Whiskey submarines earlier that day.
Kleve-Berg
03-07-2008, 12:12
To: Juntastan, Chief of State
From: Leve-Berg, Ministry of Economy and Trade

Dear Sir,

As I like to ensure you, we have nothing but uttermost respect for your nation and your rather exotic religious believes.

But as a nation highly dependent on export, we strongly condemn the mining of international waters.

As we have ensured, Kleve-Berg has not developed any space program yet and does not own any satellites. Yet, your disturbance of international trade routes has already had an harmful effect on our economy.

We herewith insist that the international trade route are restored immediately.
Akimonad
03-07-2008, 12:26
OFFICIAL DECLARATION
TO: Juntastan Ascendancy

Greetings:

The Juntastan Ascendancy is hereby given 48 hours to stop all military action, renounce its claims over the space above it, and, most importantly, renouncing its "Great Belief" in cultural superiority.

Should you not comply, the Autocratic Federated Empire will be compelled to show you your place by transforming your nation into a pile of radioactive glass.

We strongly urge foreign naval and air forces near Juntastan to take shelter.

~Dr. Jules Hodz,
Lord Protector
Penguin Protection
03-07-2008, 13:13
Transmission to all attacking countries:

Greetings:

I have taken it upon myself to try to end this conflict without Violence. At 1200 hours, -5 Greenwich, my plane will touch down In Juntastan. I will then begin negotiations. Please cease the shelling and cruise missile attacks, as if my plane is shot down, it will be considered an act of war against the USSPP. Please consider sending Ambassadors of your own.

~Penguin Premier, Kysito Kalashvok.
Lynion
03-07-2008, 14:25
100nm from Juntastan, just below the clouds

"We've being given orders to escort three aerial transport carriers, ten muntion ships, 12 supply ships and 16 freighter's back to Lynion. I know it sounds odd with a powerful armada below us, but due to pirate attacks and recent threats from Juntastan, the king can't risk this sort of load," briefed Lee on the bridge.

This was Lee's last objective and was on route home when he was ordered to escort several ships back to Lynion and provide air cover.

"We have four aerial cruiser's, ten aerial frigates, 15 aerial destoryers, five AA platforms and one aerial aircraft carrier the Valient. This includes 40 frigates and destoryers below us,2 aircraft carriers, 10 cruisers, 2 battlecruiser's, 10 submarines and maybe around 200 aircraft standing by," reported in the operator to give the report.

"The situation won't affect us much but we're hoping to go pass this area without being attacked," explained Lee. "I've also being given the word of King Ranakin that this is the last mission we'll have and we'll go home,"


TO: All Forces and Juntastan
FROM: Kingdom of Lynion, Flagship the Valient, Vamperial Headmaster Jaxson Lee King

We've detected your movements below us and I wish to inform you we have no means of entering this conflict. The Imperial Lynion Navy will pass by as the transport ships we're transporting. Any nation that attacks us will be seen as a purpose attack without reasoning and you'll be forced to pay the damages.

Have fun with the conflict.
Greywatch
03-07-2008, 14:45
Greywatch satillites in space were focused on the conflict, images were being sent to all the military bases in the region. They depicted the large mass of naval units that were at the Juntastanian 'border.' None of the conflict had been reported to the populance yet, mainly because it wasn't too much of a Greywatch concern. The Greywatch council, however, was wondering how diplomatic talks were going to be held when nations were firing weapons at the very country they were most likely going to hold said talks in.
Daiwiz
03-07-2008, 16:35
______replying to East Congaree negotiation

__________ encrypted transmission to East Congaree

"We thank you very much for your offer, and we do wish to make an alliance. At this time, however, we have no need for the PT boats. We are currently sending most of our remaining navy, and commando raiders disguised as our terrorists, to his position. We will keep you informed of our current situation, and are willing to open our borders to trade, immigration, and friendly interaction between our two great nations. We will continue to merely watch, until the time that you, or anyone else, requests our support. Say the word and we shall come to your assistance. May we all enjoy long and prosperous lives!"

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow

__________154 miles of the Justanian coastline

"Captain, we are making good progress. We should be there in, about, 3 hours." said the helmsman looking out to sea.

"Very good. Someone inform the commandos of our current progress, and ready the men."

"Aye aye captain."

The TUSSD's secondary support force, was on its way, and was making very good progress. It consisted of:

1 LVC (TUSSDS Drark)
2 Ohio class subs (TUSSDS Crap, Tra't)
4 Iroqouis class destroyers (TUSSDS B'aik Darts Hres
kliak)
6 Barracuda class subs
2 Bayer Dreadnoughts (TUSSDS Baden Bayern
20 PT boat

2 UH 60 Blackhawks
2 Commanchee
2 Huey
15 Harriers

1 battalion TUSSDMC (marines)
35 TOW Humvees
5 Pattons (tanks)
50 commando troops
100 terrorists

Juntastan you didn't see the last two.
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 16:43
1 000km off the coast of Juntasta
4th,5th, 6th and 10th fleets had met up and were preparing final plans. Defenses had been mapped from space and guns and missiles were being targeted on the distant shoreline as SSNs were running an outer perimeter sweep while a large CAP flew overhead accompanied by 5 AWACS.

Official Message to Juntasta
This is your first and only option here. Deliver us your Military and civilian leadership and we will give them a fair trial for crimes against Humanity at our international court in New Haven. Otherwise we will take them by force. You have 24 hours.

Broadcasted Message
In 24 hours the combined MARCOM fleets will be launching shore bombardments for the safety of any and all we suggest that anyone located within 10km of the shoreline move inland and that any of the other fleets should hold off on landing marines.
Penguin Protection
03-07-2008, 16:54
"Come in, Juntastan air control, this is Penguin 249, carrying Penguin Premier Kysito Kalashvok, requesting permission to land." The small private jet circled above Juntastan, occasionally dodging left and right to avoid the incoming missiles and shells aimed at the land.
Daiwiz
03-07-2008, 16:56
______54 miles off the coast of Juntastan.

"Alright then. Lets go clear those mines! Hurry lets go lets go!" cried the sergeant. Quickly, the PTs began to head off to the minefield, so as to clear a path for the subs, and for those still trading with Juntastan. At the same time the UH 60s were heading off to do the same job, plus lay smart mines*.

A few minutes earlier a squadron of Harriers had taken off, so as to scout out an area for the PTs, UH 60s, and the subs with marines on board to go through.

*OOC: the smart mine work by using two little simple computers that when the signal is recieved by the mine, it turns off until the other device leaves the area.
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 17:01
ooc: he's/shes' gone hold off on any military action till he/she returns
Daiwiz
03-07-2008, 17:21
_______Juntastan ruler

"We have 150 diplomats standing by. We will be sending in 75. Also, by the way, the reports about our diplomats being criminals is totally, and completely, false. There is the one, who takes advantage of the fact that we have no prisons, but in general they are quite honest. We request that the USSPP, and the Juntastans guarantee our safety, prior to sending them in. They may also ahve a small armed guard, just in case some of your people get a bit too rowdy."

_______ end transsmission

_______ to everyone else

"Guess where our terrorists and commandos are going."
Greywatch
03-07-2008, 17:31
OOC: Because the fact you're sending in 75 diplomats isn't odd at all...
Daiwiz
03-07-2008, 17:39
OOC: yes it's very normal. we are worried that something may happen and we would need that number of diplomats.

IC: ____to all nations involved with juntastan

"We have cleared some of the mines for a small lane, so as to allow nations that wish to continue trading with him, a lane through the mines. it will also allow any nations involved in conflict with him to move ships and troops closer. we don't currently have a full lane though. Will keep you informed."
The Beatus
03-07-2008, 18:43
Official Statement

To all Nations Involved in the Juntastan situation,

The people of the Beatus are appalled by many of your nations. They have shown great intolerance of others believes through out this entire situation. From the begining, you quickly jumped to calling these people's religious beliefs crazy, or insane, but just because they are different from yours does not mean that they are wrong in anyway. They could say the same to you, and it would be equally true. Also, many of you are claiming that this nation has mined international waters, which is not true, for as they said themselves, these mines are within they're claim of territorial waters, and as of yet, we have found not treaty or agreement signed by this nation, setting they're territorial waters with any other nation. We have also found no treaty signed by them, or any of your nations about the freedom of the space above a nation, so they also have a right to claim that. Finally, many of you jumped straight to military threats the instant the proclamation was issued, not even attempting to negotiate, or discuss the situation with the Juntastan government, and attempt to work out the situation. As far as we can tell, most of you are just intolerant, warmongering, nation's that feel you can say whatever you want, and it will automatically apply to all nations. Those are your beliefs, and they are fine, as long as they stay within your borders. You cannot just start a crusade against any religion you find different or strange, it is not who civilized nations behave, at least it is not how nations that we like to associate ourselves with behave.

Signed,
Jimmy Burch
Vice President,
The Theocratic Republic of the Beauts
Daiwiz
03-07-2008, 18:57
_________secoure transmission line
________a message to Jimmy Burch of the Beautus government

If you have read what the Justanian leader wrote, their navy is willing to aattempt piratical acts. Very few of the nations present have taken military action against this nation. One of the nations is in fact attempting to assist him, by creating a treaty between us all. I am willing to remove my armed forces, if we are allowed to remove his toxic gas factories, clear any and all mines, so as to allow trade ships in and out, and not eliminate the satelites. I am sending in diplomats, with guards so as to protect them from any citizens, who wish to kill us. Until the time that he is willing to submit to my demands, we will continue to impose upon his territory.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow

_______ end transmission

______transmitting to all other nations involved with Juntastan

We have cleared a very small pathway to the island of Juntastan. If you wish to enter this passage way, please let us know, so as to be able to direct you through the minefield. If you are a transport ship, we request the right to come on board to inspect the cargo. Weapons are all that we will not allow. We will pay for any and all damaged or eliminated merchandise. We may also request passage for a few commandos to scout their island.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
Greywatch
03-07-2008, 19:06
Greywatch Response:
Encrypted Message To: The Beatus

We can only hope that you're not refering to us in your message as we have not, as of yet, nor are we planning to, made any military threats. We have only sent in messages that protested against what seemed to us as unfair, and asked the Juntastan government/leader to further explain how he can so blatantly insult others and not expect that there will be those that will resort to this kind of action. We in the Greywatch council have no intention of getting involved in a war unless hostile actions are directed towards us specifically. We are planning to remain nuetral in this conflict and only ask that you understand our side of the arguement. Thank you in advance.

From,
Greywatch Council
Berzerkirs
03-07-2008, 19:12
Aristocrapolis, Aristocrapolis News

"On a recent aired announcement on Aristocrapolis News, the Arch Aristocra Melinda Vates (of House Vates) made a shocking revelation to the Juntastanese people
"People of Juntastan, Kindred, I am grieved to say that our great nation has been soiled by the prying of satelites
It has came to my notice that several nations, expressly against the wishes of the Juntastanese people and the Great Belief, have soiled us and made our cities, buildings and people unclean by the prying eyes of the satelites taking pictures of Juntastan from space.
As we all know, Kindred, the Great Belief specifically does not allow powandah, or unbelievers, to learn our native language, gain a copy of our scriptures, look on an unmasked Juntastanese nor soil our buildings and especially our Temples by taking pictures of them.
Despite our peaceful intentions, the powandah (unbelievers), have done just this. They have photographed our people unmasked and worse yet, have photographed our temples by their satelites. This is an outrage! The penalty for unbelievers of violating the purity rules of the Great Belief is death.
i have decided, along with the Council of the Seven Ruling Families, and the Assembly of Citizens to give the nations with satelites over Juntastanese airspace one week to remove them. If in one week they are not removed, we will consider this to be an act of aggression by the nations owning these spy satelites and will deal accordingly with the impious powandah.
Do not mistake our restraint for weakness, Powandahs. You have one week, or the Juntastanese people will remove them FOR you, one way or the other. We take this is an act of aggression, blasphemy and ritually polluting our people, our cities and us.
As for the Juntastanese people: I have ordered the Clerics of all the Temples to begin offering the sacrament of the Rite of Cleansing both to the buildings, Temples and our citizenry. All citizens are to contact their Cleric and begin performing the outer and inner spiritual disciplines so as to make our people clean of this..filth!
I have ordered our fleet to full readiness and we will extend a cordon in a 100 mile radius around the subcontinent of the Confederation of the Juntastan Ascendacy. All the nations responsibile for this desecration of our people and mockery of the Great Belief are interdicted and will be boarded , the ship and it's contents seized. Only nations not responsibile for this desecration of Juntastan may dock on the East Coast after satisfying the Juntastanese Self Defense Navy that they are indeed not of one of the blasphemer nations
One week, Powandahs! Get those damn satelites out of our airspace!

The people of Berzerkirs have no satellites in space, we find it a waste of time and funds. Therefore we will aid you, if we get something out of it, that is...
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 19:26
Official Statement

To all Nations Involved in the Juntastan situation,

The people of the Beatus are appalled by many of your nations. They have shown great intolerance of others believes through out this entire situation. From the begining, you quickly jumped to calling these people's religious beliefs crazy, or insane, but just because they are different from yours does not mean that they are wrong in anyway. They could say the same to you, and it would be equally true. Also, many of you are claiming that this nation has mined international waters, which is not true, for as they said themselves, these mines are within they're claim of territorial waters, and as of yet, we have found not treaty or agreement signed by this nation, setting they're territorial waters with any other nation. We have also found no treaty signed by them, or any of your nations about the freedom of the space above a nation, so they also have a right to claim that. Finally, many of you jumped straight to military threats the instant the proclamation was issued, not even attempting to negotiate, or discuss the situation with the Juntastan government, and attempt to work out the situation. As far as we can tell, most of you are just intolerant, warmongering, nation's that feel you can say whatever you want, and it will automatically apply to all nations. Those are your beliefs, and they are fine, as long as they stay within your borders. You cannot just start a crusade against any religion you find different or strange, it is not who civilized nations behave, at least it is not how nations that we like to associate ourselves with behave.

Signed,
Jimmy Burch
Vice President,
The Theocratic Republic of the Beauts

Official reply from the ASD
We have not attacked this nation due to cultural differences, nor even the threats they made regarding the use of nuclear weaponry but we cannot , in good conscience, allow the use of chemical and biological weapons by a nation that seems to threaten on a whim. Thus in response to the use of these weapons we have declared war.
Penguin Protection
03-07-2008, 19:28
Transmission to The Beatus:

Withdraw your slander, sir! We of the USSPP are in the process of negotiating an end to this conflict! We are offering to provide devices to solve the problem, and
will be clearing the minefield shortly. Thank you.

Penguin Premier, Kysito Kalashvok.

Transmission to All Attacking Nations:

Please withdraw from the minefield, as we will be clearing it soon. Within the next 90 minutes, Concussion bombs will be dropped into the water, detonating the mines harmlessly. Cleanup crews will be sent in to retrieve the remainders of the mines. Thank you.

Penguin Premier, Kysito Kalashvok.
Daiwiz
03-07-2008, 19:32
______message to the USSPP

We currently have UH 60 Blackhawks and PT boats clearing the mines. We will clear up the mines in the area that we are currently in, and will assist you in clearing the remaining mines, once the bombs are dropped.

Kolitburo, Draith Dr'klow
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 19:32
Offcial broadcast to ALL involved nations
Four MARCOM fleets are currently in the process of removing the mines. Any nation that attempts to fly planes through MARCOM controlled airspace will be warned off then destroyed. Any attempt to remove the MARCOM fleets through force will not be tolerated.

Encrypted message to Penguin Protection
Do not attempt to drop concussion weapons in or near our fleet. Any aircraft flying in our airspace WILL be warned off then destroyed.

Encrypted message to Daiwiz
we are currently clearing mines in our sector. Unless you want to create a temporary alliance I suggest you stay out of the area my ships are currently in.

the four marcom fleets were moving closer to shore with SSN's clearing the mines ahead the ships with the help of their ASW bretheren.
Daiwiz
03-07-2008, 19:42
_____encrypted message to MARCOM

We are not clearing the mines in your sector if your wish it. We currently have a wide lane cleared of mines, for any who wish to trade, land troops, or diplomats on Juntastan. Once we clear all the mines in our area, we will wish for a temporary alliance to assist in removing the mines in your area. We would, however, wish to create a temporary alliance with you, against Juntastan. We do not condone the use of such inhuman weapons, as chlorine, and other weapons of the smae nature. Neither do we condone the use of nuclear missiles, or firing on civilian populaces. If you would allow us passage through your demined corridor, so that we can land marines, speacial ops, vehicles, and some "civilian" people, we will be quite thankful.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow

_________encrypted message to East Congaree

While we do not condone the strategy of firing on civilian populaces, we would still like to assist you in any way possible, and would like to set up an alliance with a trade agreement. If you have any landing craft you can spare, that would be helpful. I plan to go to war with Juntastan, for the use of poison gas, which is an afront to humanity. We will be landing commandos, marines, vehicles, and terrorists that have decided Juntastan is better if it is destroyed. I am merely planning to go in, eliminate the chlorine gas producing factories, and secure the nuclear missiles and dispose of them. If you would like to assist me, that would be much appreciated. We plan to attack as soon as the reinforcements arrive.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 19:50
Official Message to Daiwiz
We agree to a temporary alliance and hope we can extend it to a full alliance later. Feel free to use the corridor we have cleared for any purpose and we will offer our ample anti air defenses and anti missile defenses to protect your ships in our area.
Penguin Protection
03-07-2008, 19:51
NON-encrypted message to DaWoad, as well as the other nations:

DaWoad, We are attempting to clear the mines. The concussion bombs will detonate underwater, detonating the mines. We request you withdraw your ships to avoid hull damage. We will proceed with the other areas, and clear yours when you respond.

Penguin Premier, Kysito Kalashvok.

Overhead, PPAF bombers proceed to drop large cannisters into the water, which promptly sink. A few minutes later, Waterspouts begin exploding from the surface, filling the air with mist. Behind the advancing line of explosions and water blasts, Jet VTOL aircraft cruise over the sea, metal shrapnel springing from the sea, and sticking to the electromagnets hanging beneath them.
Daiwiz
03-07-2008, 19:55
_____message to the MARCOM commander

We will also allow you the use of our area, and we will assist in any more of your mine clearing operations. Mines are dangerous to all, wether they be the enemy, civilian, or your own! We would also like to initiate a small trade agreement. We can off trout, and a few surplus infantry weapons.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 19:55
NON-encrypted message to DaWoad, as well as the other nations:

DaWoad, We are attempting to clear the mines. The concussion bombs will detonate underwater, detonating the mines. We request you withdraw your ships to avoid hull damage. We will proceed with the other areas, and clear yours when you respond.

Penguin Premier, Kysito Kalashvok.

Overhead, PPAF bombers proceed to drop large cannisters into the water, which promptly sink. A few minutes later, Waterspouts begin exploding from the surface, filling the air with mist. Behind the advancing line of explosions and water blasts, Jet VTOL aircraft cruise over the sea, metal shrapnel springing from the sea, and sticking to the electromagnets hanging beneath them.


IC: overhead PPAF bombers were approaching the MARCOM CAP. 20 F-22 Raptors leaped out to meet them as Stovl craft scrambled from the decks of the Marcom carriers. a message was radioed to the oncoming bombers. "leave now or be destroyed.". At the same time Destroyers targeted the oncoming craft.
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 19:57
_____message to the MARCOM commander

We will also allow you the use of our area, and we will assist in any more of your mine clearing operations. Mines are dangerous to all, wether they be the enemy, civilian, or your own! We would also like to initiate a small trade agreement. We can off trout, and a few surplus infantry weapons.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow

We would agree to the trade agreement and also to the assistance in clearing mines. Our subs and ASW copters are handling a corridor wide enough to give our fleet maneuvering room but we would appreciate a little more space so if you can continue to widen the corridor that would be great.. Though we do not wish to insult your nation, we do not need the surplus weapons. That being said we would gladly give your forces training and weapons from our special operations group in exchange for the trout. Alternatively we can offer you gold, silver or any metal of any kind you wish to acquire. We would also like to offer you an embassy within our nation.
Penguin Protection
03-07-2008, 20:23
In Response to the transmission, the bombers pulled up to 2000 feet, and pulled into nosedives. They impacted the water smoothly, disappearing with barely a splash. Of course, they were Amphibious. Once the fuel feed to the engines shut down, they ran on electric. They continued to release the concussion bombs behind them, but the VTOLs peeled off, leaving the Debris. Soon the fleet that had threatened them was surrounded by the remains of mines. The bombers exploded out of the water as the fuel feed was restored, and flew off with a snappy wing waggle.
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 20:28
In Response to the transmission, the bombers pulled up to 2000 feet, and pulled into nosedives. They impacted the water smoothly, disappearing with barely a splash. Of course, they were Amphibious. Once the fuel feed to the engines shut down, they ran on electric. They continued to release the concussion bombs behind them, but the VTOLs peeled off, leaving the Debris. Soon the fleet that had threatened them was surrounded by the remains of mines. The bombers exploded out of the water as the fuel feed was restored, and flew off with a snappy wing waggle.

IC: As the bomber's had dived MARCOM sonar arrays followed them underwater and as they burst out of the water again 50 Pilum extended Range anti air missiles launched after them traveling at mach 2 and accelerating fast. The F-22s hit full afterburner and began to gain on the VTOLs.
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 20:32
The 50 Pilums closed fast to just over 10 meters guided onto target by powerful arrays. The missiles then self destructed just out of range of the enemy bombers but the point was made. The F-22s buzzed right past the VTOLs and had them fully locked on. The F-22's then sped back to the fleet but not before saying "you were warned. Next time we will just blow your planes to hell."
Penguin Protection
03-07-2008, 20:43
((Okay, WTH? YOu attack me for helping? Dude....))
Greywatch
03-07-2008, 20:47
OOC: When military craft give fair warning and you disobey without so much as further explaining yourself, they fire on you.
Penguin Protection
03-07-2008, 20:48
((I said I was clearing the mines... Obviously, somebody wasn't paying attention.... Anyway, I wasn't doing HIS area. I was leaving his alone pending a response.))
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 20:50
((Okay, WTH? YOu attack me for helping? Dude....))
OOC; I didn't destroy your planes. I probably should have. You violated my CAP and navel space and I could have torched them a few times . . .when I say stay away I really mean it. BTW you really shouldn't RP your planes getting through 10km of CAP and inner defense of subs, multiple sonar defense arrays and depth charges etc.
Daiwiz
03-07-2008, 20:50
_______message to MARCOM

I think the trade agreement is quite satisfactory. We are currently unable to produce many armored, or heavy vehicles, so we could use help with that. Our forces can also learn much from any other military in the world. If we can send an ambassador to your nation, you may send as many as you wish to ours. This alliance will profit us both greatly im sure. An advanced shipment of trout is being sent to your nation, for your inspection as to wether it is useable. Please specify the port. We are also beginning to land raiders on the Juntastian mainland, to secure the weapons. I would ask, however, that you do not engage in hostilities with another nation currently working to the same ends as you. We do not want a second war raging between yours and other nations forces currently sationed here. Thank you. Would my forces please be allowed to head through the area currently demined by your forces, and the USSPP? Long live our great nations.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow

_________ 12:30 am

"Hurry it up! We dont want the damned Justies seeing us. We are still neutral with them." said the major in control of Operation Pool.
His job, along with other commandos, was to scout out possissions for the marines to land, wether it be by air, or sea. Once said marines had landed, they were to continue on to the chlorine factories, which would be discovered by other commando squads, and eliminate their ability to create the poison gas. They were then to fight their way to the nuclear devices, and if unable to get them safely out, eliminate the usefulness of the nukes.

Meanwhile onboard the battleship GrosseBoom the commander of the current task force, was watching the redeployment of the PT boats to clear the MARCOM corrider, and the UH 60s being refitted for transport of both marines and humvees. The war was about begin.
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 20:50
((I said I was clearing the mines... Obviously, somebody wasn't paying attention....))

OOC: O I was and I warned you off. Apparently you weren't paying attention
Greywatch
03-07-2008, 20:57
OOC: On that note, can anyone provide a web link or something that would show me where amphibious planes have been developed? I actually haven't heard of them until today, I certainly haven't seen them in any MT thread before today.
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 21:02
_______message to MARCOM

I think the trade agreement is quite satisfactory. We are currently unable to produce many armored, or heavy vehicles, so we could use help with that. Our forces can also learn much from any other military in the world. If we can send an ambassador to your nation, you may send as many as you wish to ours. This alliance will profit us both greatly im sure. An advanced shipment of trout is being sent to your nation, for your inspection as to wether it is useable. Please specify the port. We are also beginning to land raiders on the Juntastian mainland, to secure the weapons. I would ask, however, that you do not engage in hostilities with another nation currently working to the same ends as you. We do not want a second war raging between yours and other nations forces currently sationed here. Thank you.

OOC:ill try not too but if penguin kicks it off . . . . .
IC:
Official Message
we will not engage in hostilities unless provoked. We will accept your ambassador and the tenth legion will be rebasing to your country with a company of CAN ENS to set up a production facility. We would ask that you bring your shipment to blue cover, which is the sole ASD blue water port. As to using our corridor its all yours. As stated before we will provide overhead cover.
Daiwiz
03-07-2008, 21:02
OOC: the closest i can think of would be a sea plane, but thats not whats being used.unless you count the planes in sky captain, they dont exist. espeaially in an MT thread

IC: _______to MARCOM leader

We thank you for not attempting to start a war with any other nations currently based here. If you are provoked, then you are not at fault. We will begin full trade operations, and we will send a training sergeant to your nation. That way you may see our abilities, and copy any strategy, if you wish to. We also thank you for basing a legion of troops, and for showing us how you manufacture your heavy weapons. They will be of much use. May your nation prosper.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
Penguin Protection
03-07-2008, 21:10
((I thought YOU wanted the mines cleared...))

Communique to Attacking forces:

Greetings:

Surely Diplomacy is an option! The people of Juntastan only responded Hostilely because that's how they were approached. Surely we can work this out, and see eachother's point of views.... Meanwhile, I will continue to bring in supplies.

Penguin Premier, Kysito Kalashvok.

((And about my Amphibious designs, who said I can't have a few pet projects? Turbines that drive boats are built much like those for aircraft, only sturdier. Who says that you couldn't have a craft that could work in both? The Idea is quite feasible, it would just take some work, and nobody's tried to do it yet. What if I want to? And I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw that movie. ))
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 21:15
OOC: I was clearing them myself . . .not that it matters ... and i warned you off
OOC2: heres the thread im making just to rp my contruction of facilities etc. ttp://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13809598#post13809598
IC:
We gave them the option to surrender. Now we will go in and do it ourselves. Be warned penguin we are a rather large nation but we do not wish to involve ourselves in a conflict with you. To this end I would strongly suggest you desist from providing our enemies with supplies.
Signed
Admiral Hawk
Penguin Protection
03-07-2008, 21:20
Transmission to Dawoad:

Please consider Diplomacy. More lives need not be lost.

Penguin Premier, Kysito Kalashvok.
Greywatch
03-07-2008, 21:21
OOC: http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/ This here is a site people use as means of showing what they can afford in the terms of military.
Penguin Protection
03-07-2008, 21:25
(Sweet, Penguins are worth more than a dollar, and they breed! *strokes penguin* And with breeding Penguins, comes more money. And to the nations who say I couldn't have a military this good, who says I didnt' get aid from larger nations? And the fact that just because there isn't a defense budget on the books doesn't mean there isn't one....)
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 21:29
(Sweet, Penguins are worth more than a dollar, and they breed! *strokes penguin* And with breeding Penguins, comes more money. And to the nations who say I couldn't have a military this good, who says I didnt' get aid from larger nations? And the fact that just because there isn't a defense budget on the books doesn't mean there isn't one....)

OOC: yes fine . . .to a point but three things one your population is low remember that if your posting military numbers. Two you should be able to show a thread where someone helped you out. Three try to stay within reason please. thats not a jibe just be sure you can back stuff up. btw this is my defense budget 4,221,038,216,123.07

IC: diplomacy has been attempted and failed. Please do not attempt to intervene in this conflict.
Greywatch
03-07-2008, 21:30
OOC: Exactly PP, you have no funding going to your military at all, and btw OOC Thread is up now. Oh and PP, your currency is worth half a dollar.
Daiwiz
03-07-2008, 21:31
((I thought YOU wanted the mines cleared...))

Communique to Attacking forces:

Greetings:

Surely Diplomacy is an option! The people of Juntastan only responded Hostilely because that's how they were approached. Surely we can work this out, and see eachother's point of views.... Meanwhile, I will continue to bring in supplies.

Penguin Premier, Kysito Kalashvok.

_________messaging to USSPP

I am not attempting to destroy him. My plan is to go in, secure and eliminate the gas producing factories, and capture, extract or diffuse the nukes. Nuclear devices should not be for as small a nation as he, or I admitedly. If he is willing to allow us to land a small contingent of troops, demolish the chlorine plants, and extract the nukes, I have no problem. I wish to do this with as small a loss of life as possible. If I had not known he had chlorine producing facilities, I would have been content with him removing his demands, and using your devices. I would even have let the nukes slide. But using poisonous gases is an afront to humanity, and we must eliminate his ability to do so. I swear that we will only engage Juntastanians, if they attack us first. You have the word of the people.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow

______somewhere on the east side of Juntastan

"Sir we have found an ample landing area. I suggest airlifting the forces. We are now eliminating the guards." As the major is speaking, two of his men sneak up to two Justanese guards, with a cloth in their hands. The cloth was soaked in a mild sedative that when inhaled, renders the subject uncouncious for a few hours, to a few minuts, depending on the concentration. They quickly eliminated the guards, tied them up and gagged them, and set up the radar beacon to alert the blackhawks.
Meanwhile in a direct line from where the MARCOM corridor, another squad of commandos had found a landing sight. Quickly they radioed in the coordinates, and soon landing crafts with most of the marines were being sent to secure the beach. The other transports were following with the tanks, and other amored vehicles.
Offsea however the reinforcements had arrived and were preparing to deploy. They reconaissance Hueys were being launched and Commanchees were being sent with the airborne forces. Soon what would happen would depend entirely on the Juntastainian government.....

________to the MARCOM leader

If you do enter a war with anyother nation, we will be willing to assist you. It is the least we can do.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
Penguin Protection
03-07-2008, 21:35
Transmission to Daiwiz:

Greetings:

As you may have noticed, they have not refused my offer as of yet. I suggest that for the sake of all, you not attack yet.

((And no funding on the books...))
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 21:36
OOC: ok I think we should hold off on invading until the guy were invading returns. so just hold of on attacks on the mainland for now.
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 21:38
Transmission to Daiwiz:

Greetings:

As you may have noticed, they have not refused my offer as of yet. I suggest that for the sake of all, you not attack yet.

((And no funding on the books...))

IC: You have not been accepted as a mediating agent by EITHER side. I am warning you again, do not attempt to supply our enemies.
Penguin Protection
03-07-2008, 21:39
Haven't been accepted yet...

And I am sure that the negotiations would not be helped when most of the citizens are starving to death. I am sure that you do not wish loss of life. Think of the starving children! Put yourselves in your position, blockaded in! Would you not want your citizens to have food?
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 21:39
________to the MARCOM leader

If you do enter a war with anyother nation, we will be willing to assist you. It is the least we can do.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow

Encrypted.
We thank you for your offer of aide and accept it with gratitude. This being said we can handle USSPP with no difficulty ourselves.
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 21:42
Haven't been accepted yet...

OOC:by ONE side. I'm not gonna accept your mediation unless it includes the demands (ie. turn over the officials civilian and military who launch the chemical attack so they can be tried at the international criminal court. Hand over all nuclear weapons and destroy all biological and chemical weapons while our, or our allies observe.) that have already been made in which case I don't need your mediation. . . . and this has been going on for less than a week. no one is starving.
Juntastan Ascendacy
03-07-2008, 21:44
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3008/diplonettd1.jpg

From Cecily Lockhelm, Third Spanish head of States to Arch Aristocra Melinda Vates of Juntastan

I have been watching some news in my brief time that I was not busy talking about war or about how to get back home safely from the aircraft carrier I am currently in, and I became aware of such inconvenient situation provoked by exotic beliefs which were already bashed by the prejudice of people who refuse to see the holes of their own beliefs. As for a strange reason, your territories are not in my world map, I find it likely that this has something to do with the strange rift that leads to other worlds and parallel Earths, where as expected, we have not a single satellite orbiting. I believe there is a manner to solve this without issuing threats to nations a hundred of times larger than yours and putting the sovereignty of your own people at risk. In fact, there is a manner which would not only satellites useless for military intelligence purposes against your nation, but also allow it to be capable of surviving even a nuclear apocalypse(provided bunker buster are not used). However, this proposal will be expensive, but still less costly than being annexed into the territories of a larger nation.

Simply said, satellites cannot spy on underground cities or on cities beneath the waves. We have already developed the technology that allows such types of cities to exist, while artificial lighting can simulate almost perfectly the sun to create a good sensation to its inhabitants. Our Enclave City, with 150,000 inhabitants, is the most common example of this, being deep beneath the sea, it is one of our more exotic locales that offer some unique visages.

Regarding building underground, we have mastered such technology for years as well, but for purely military purposes until now, something which does not mean such could be adapted to create the needed infrastructure for a subterranean city to function properly and be self-sufficient. Through a combination of aeroponics, hydroponics and of our successful try on what Biosphere 2 has failed, we are ready to provide Juntastan with a much more effective, and peaceful manner to assure no satellites will disrupt your beliefs.

Of course, we cannot provide such services free of charge, but our Advanced Development and Arcology Engineering Cooperative Confederacy(ADARCON) will not mind a long term payment with what your funds can handle for the project, at an interest rate much lower than that of the average capitalist banker. As an example of our previous investments in foreign infrastructure, ADARCON has been one of the companies that helped the city of Vetalia to become one of the most modern of the world as indicated in this annex (http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13417149&postcount=16). We will allow you to live normally without worries of satellites, in the wonderous visage of the sea or of marvelously built underground cities.

I know that a change like this is not easy, but however, I believe it is the best choice to ensure the continued survival of your people, sovereignty, culture, beliefs and traditions, and advise to simply remove the threats made against those who had unintentionally satellites passing through your nation to ensure your continued sovereignty. When your other options are to dismiss your beliefs or to engage into a war against enemies that outnumber you in more than a hundred to one, I offer this proposal as a better alternative.

Attentiously
Cecily Lockhelm (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Cleyere.jpg)
Head of State, vigilante and military advisor

We gratefully accept your offer.

We ask that you approach the other belingerent nations of powandah, and intreat them to a multilateral discussion .

The issues we wish to discuss are:

1)
The right to Jujntastan to protect their superior culture from cultural piracy
2)
Agreement to respect the tenets of the Great Belief in terms of it's requirements for ritual purity (i.e, we want it understood why we don't allow non-Kindred (our term for ourselves) outside the area of the West Coast .

Please tell all parties that we first request a cease fire between Juntastan and the beligerent powandah nations.

It is our hope that they are indeed civilized human beings, and not as many of our people perceive, rampaging savages who wish to loot our nation and exploit its cultural superiority
Penguin Protection
03-07-2008, 21:46
Our People are not afraid of your threats. Our cities are protected by anti-missile lasers (Which DO exist now, my Father even worked on the project perfecting one.) and While we wish to bring this conflict to a peaceful resolution, we will withdraw until either side wishes us to be on their side. We will leave observation drones overhead to observe the conflict.


Transmission to Juntastan:

We hope you continue to consider our offer of the Satellite blinding devices.


Penguin Premier, Kysito Kalashkov.
Greywatch
03-07-2008, 21:46
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=559956 <== OOC Thread.
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 21:50
OOC: we don't even have a nuclear program. What we do have is a population that is over 100x larger than yours and the military to match.
broadcasted message to Juntasta
You have our requirements. Will you yield to them?
Daiwiz
03-07-2008, 21:54
OOC: there are alot of times skipping you may notice. if he does supply them, so what. we end up drawing lines, and it could turn into a war. no lives are lossed or anything like that in real life. after it ends whichever side is supposed to submit to others demands. that type of thing.

IC:______encrypted message to USSPP headquarters

We would request that you cease your assistance of war criminals. The use of Biological weapons is lunacy, and an afront to humanity. If you wish to ally with him, feel free to, but be warned. We will not tolerate it. We do, however, appreciate your attempts to end this, we will not abandon this until they:
1 turn over their officials in power, to be tried for crimes against humanity
2 destroy all of the bio weapon facilities under the eye of an official from each nation present here
3 turn over all nuclear weapons
4 destroy all biological weapons under the eyes of said officials.
5 allow a few select countries to enter his nation at any time, so as to make certain he is not producing any more bio weapons.
6 withdraw his demands of destroying the sattelites

Once these demands are met, we will be willing to open trade, a possible small alliance, and his countries freedom of the blockade. We will not look upon any of his people, or shrines that he does not wish us to.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 21:56
OOC:yep
IC: we back the demands made and ask for a response within 1 hour (RL) otherwise we will invade your country and do this by force.
Penguin Protection
03-07-2008, 22:01
Transmission to Daiwiz:

What you say gives me an idea. WE should propose that there be a section of Juntastan seperated by a barrier wall high enough to not be seen over from the section with temples and buildings and such. All Shipments would pass in and out of this area, and weapons manufacturing plants would be based there. This way, we could wean them off weapons of mass destruction.

Penguin Premier, Kysito Kalashvok.
Penguin Protection
03-07-2008, 22:01
((No RL timing. What if they're called away from the computer by something out of their control?))
Zinaire
03-07-2008, 22:02
ZSV Tropical Promise

Juntastan was a sight now and Rear Admiral Smith wasn't happy about it. He ordered the strike force to wait here until contract was established with the fleet from East Congaree.

Master Petty Officer (Class III) Daniel Gordon knocked then entered the admiral's office.

"We have new orders sir. Right from the prime minister. We're supposed to turn back and deny any involvement. Between threats of nuclear force and a feeling of international distaste towards the countries involved here, it's just not a good place to be."

The admiral smiled and clapped the petty officer on the back.

"Let's get this fleet turned around before we're blown to Kingdom Come."
Daiwiz
03-07-2008, 22:02
______secure message to MARCOM command

The forces that we currently have in this theatre, are ready to assault his facilities. Our aircraft are fueled and awaiting to launch, our marines are waiting in their transport craft, along with much of our armored core offshore. The rest of our marines are already in their West Coast area and are prepared to assault any and all necessary forces. We will do so with minimal casualties to both sides. I suggest you land just outside of their main city, as my forces on the sea are going to head there first, to capture their officials.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 22:07
((No RL timing. What if they're called away from the computer by something out of their control?))
ooc: he/she was online when I wrote it.
Secure Transmition to Daiwiz
We will do so as soon as the hour time limit is up. our marines are gearing up now and we have all their land based defenses targeted by both TLAMs and 18 inch Guns.
Daiwiz
03-07-2008, 22:19
______secure transmission to MARCOM command

May we move a few of our ships into your area? We do not wish to put added need on your ships, by requesting fire supports from them. Our commandos will do their best to eliminate any, and all defenses, so as to make your troops landing as easy on them as possible. We will also contribute anything that you may require for this. My forces in the west will move a bit before the naval forces do, so as to distract their airforce, and any ground forces. They will have most of my Harriers, the Commanchees, and the Hueys. We will be bringing another dreadnough that has been outfitted for landing of five commanchee sized helicopters. If you require assistance from these, please ask.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
DaWoad
03-07-2008, 22:22
______secure transmission to MARCOM command

May we move a few of our ships into your area? We do not wish to put added need on your ships, by requesting fire supports from them. Our commandos will do their best to eliminate any, and all defenses, so as to make your troops landing as easy on them as possible. We will also contribute anything that you may require for this. My forces in the west will move a bit before the naval forces do, so as to distract their airforce, and any ground forces. They will have most of my Harriers, the Commanchees, and the Hueys. We will be bringing another dreadnough that has been outfitted for landing of five commanchee sized helicopters. If you require assistance from these, please ask.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow

Definatly. Move your ships in and we will have fire support easily available to your troops our stovl fighters and AH-1z's can offer close in air support also.

OOC: be back in a bit then I'll begin my invasion
Penguin Protection
03-07-2008, 22:30
Transmission to All affected nations:

As of now, the USSPP is officially a Non-combatant. We will remain to observe, however, and continue to attempt Diplomacy, if we can get Juntastan to answer our transmissions. Please do not shoot at the observation platforms, as the fuel is highly explosive.

Penguin Premier, Kysito Kalashvok
Gun Manufacturers
03-07-2008, 22:30
The Internet Weather Watch was doing its hourly webcast of the weather around the world, with a live feed from Stormsat 18. Juntastan Ascendacy was the nation they were over, and Bob Bramble, who was more lively than normal, pointed out to any Juntastanis watching that there was a warm front moving in, and the forcast was for lots and lots of heat. He was quick to remind the Juntastanis that the heat wouldn't be from the front that was moving in, but from bombs, missiles, and shells. He also reminded the Juntastanis that while what they were hearing sounded like thunder, it was actually explosions. He said that the Juntastan Ascendacy shouldn't expect thunderstorms until later on in the week.
Daiwiz
03-07-2008, 22:39
______encrypted to MARCOM commander

Thank you for the use of your lanes. We are bringing a destroyer we recently outfitted, and changed it to allow five commanchee helicopters. We will off the use of said Comanchees to you, assuming you have need of them. I do not suggest firing on civilian populaces, for other nations don't look kindly on that, and we fear that bio weapons will be used on you. Our forces will secure any bridges and attempt an attack on where you will be landing, so as to allow you to land your forces with minimal losses. We merely need to know where you are going to land, and at what time so army group B can assault their factories in the West district, and army group A can be given enough time to begin the assault on your beaches. We could, alternatavely, use army group A to draw the forces away so you can land. Either one will work.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
Crookfur
03-07-2008, 23:09
OOC: v. nice IC Juntastan

The rest of you (bar the obvious exceptions) fail at thar intrawebz, nothing like 11 pages of Rp that hardly involves the main poster...

IC:

Nobody at Crookfur Space command had ever really thought about taking any kind of intel about Juntastan, sure spy sats and other orbital devices had over flown them and had likely taken lots of very pictures but unless someone actually asked about them they would just stay in storage.

Of course once word of announcement got around the armed forces and the Inquisition just about every Crookfur orbital asset that could get anything approaching a line of sight was looking at the region. Most shortly turned away to look at more interesting things, with a few inquisition birds lingering a bit longer to check for any obvious signs of Chaotic worship, be it human sacrifice, wild outdoor orgies or even a creepy skull topped mountain. Wither or not they found anything nobody really knows because thats how the 'qusitiors like to play, you know all secret and mysterious n' stuff.
Daiwiz
03-07-2008, 23:47
______message to all those involved aggressively with Juntastan

My new warship shall be arriving with advanced weapons, and 5 Commanchee attack helicopters. They shall support the landings between the MARCOM nation and the TUSSD. If you wish to assist our plan to remove all:
Nuclear missiles
Bio weapon facilities
Bio weapons
And to capture their leaders, so as to try them for crimes against humanity.

If you agree with these actions, please show your support by:
Landing your own armed forces
Bringing in your own navy
Or even as simple as pledging your support to all those currently acting against Juntastan.

Doing any of these will be of great help. I must stress, however, that we will not compromise the Juntastanian belief, their people, their temples, nor their human rights. We must stress that we do not condone the use of other Bio weapons or nuclear weapons. We also do not condone any attacks on a civilian population. If the afore mentioned lines are crossed, we may take action against you. Please do this with as little bloodshed as possible.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
Zinaire
03-07-2008, 23:50
OOC: Uh, I think you got the wrong word there. "Condone" means to accept and allow.
The Skyships
03-07-2008, 23:54
He probably meant Condemn...
Daiwiz
04-07-2008, 00:10
OOC: i meant do not condone lol. oops.will edit it.also type any ooc parts in the thread for that.
DaWoad
04-07-2008, 00:24
Broadcasted message
"The time to respond has now elapsed. Juntasta, you may sue for peace at any point by agreeing to all of the demands we have stated multiple times To Juntasta citizens. We are invading you country. Please stay in your homes and you will be unharmed."

Combined MARCOM Fleets
shelling opened up on the identified bunkers and anti air positions As missiles flew to their targets. TLAMS were launched from every Battlecruiser, Destroyer and Cruiser at pre-planned targets and F-22's sped forward to gain air superiority as F-35s followed. Marine special forces s began to move inland a aboard fast transports and low flying helicopters accompanyed by AH-1z and STOVLs. AS marines boarded landing boats and amphibious IFV in preparation for an assault on the beeches.
OOC: if you want specifics look at my ORBAT I'm not gonna continue invading till Juntasta responds
Aprika
04-07-2008, 03:08
The Republic of Aprika has long had a strong stance against piracy of any kind. As the threats and actions of Juntastan represent both conventional and orbital piracy, Aprika has no choice but to condemn Juntastan. Furthermore, there is the even more pressing matter of the use of unconventional weapons, according to our best sources, missiles and artillery shells loaded with chlorine. Use of such weaponry is a barbaric practice, as is firing unprovoked on another nation's ships . Yet beyond this is Juntastan's minelaying operations in international waters. It is clear to use that Juntastan represents a threat to the world community. With this knowledge, the Aprika Navy has decided to position the RAS Victorius carrier battle group some 80 miles off shore from Juntastan. However, we will officially remain a neutral state in this conflict for the time being.

Our carrier battle group consists of the Valiant class carrier RAS Victorius, the Alligator class battlesip RAS Gecko, the Hemel class frigates RAS Westham, RAS Muur, and RAS Port Jason, the Titan class supply ship RAS Hercules, and the Kilo class attack submarines RAS Crab and RAS Scorpion. In addition, an air force numbering 18 MR-1A "Claymore II" strike fighters and 20 Ka-28 "Helix" SAR and ASW helicopters is included in this battle group.
Daiwiz
04-07-2008, 04:10
As the message by the MARCOM commander of his actions is recieved, the marines stationed offshore begin to slowly head out. They quickly gain speed in the 2 foot waves, and as they begin to near the beach, the leautenants begin going over the rules of engagement, and their objectives.
A mere kilometer out from the marines, the heavy transports, with their precious cargo of vehicles, and ammo, begin to head to the beach, while all the soldiers involved watch the ammaising fireworks show. What was frightening, was that these were not fireworks, but shells, missiles, and bombs being fired by MARCOM and TUSSD ships stationed just offshore.
While all of this was going on the three aircraft carriers in the TUSSD expedionary forces fleet were launching their cargos of M18 Harriers, Commanchees, Hueys, and placing the rest of the marines in army group B into the UH 60 Blackhawks.
The marines in army group B received orders to move on their target, and soon they saw more shells and missiles hitting the target area. Theirs was of the most important, as they were to eliminate a major chlorine factory on the West sector of Juntastan. They could only pray that the Juntastanians would offer little resistance.
The Beatus
04-07-2008, 07:51
_________secoure transmission line
________a message to Jimmy Burch of the Beautus government

If you have read what the Justanian leader wrote, their navy is willing to aattempt piratical acts. Very few of the nations present have taken military action against this nation. One of the nations is in fact attempting to assist him, by creating a treaty between us all. I am willing to remove my armed forces, if we are allowed to remove his toxic gas factories, clear any and all mines, so as to allow trade ships in and out, and not eliminate the satelites. I am sending in diplomats, with guards so as to protect them from any citizens, who wish to kill us. Until the time that he is willing to submit to my demands, we will continue to impose upon his territory.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow

_______ end transmission

______transmitting to all other nations involved with Juntastan

We have cleared a very small pathway to the island of Juntastan. If you wish to enter this passage way, please let us know, so as to be able to direct you through the minefield. If you are a transport ship, we request the right to come on board to inspect the cargo. Weapons are all that we will not allow. We will pay for any and all damaged or eliminated merchandise. We may also request passage for a few commandos to scout their island.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow

To Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow,

It is not piratical for a nation's government to stop and board ships in they're own waters, nor is it piratical to seize goods from said ships. Your nation would do the same to those smuggling drugs into your nation, would they not? They are also allowed to break of trade with other nations, mine they're own waters, and produce chemical weapons, it is all part of being a sovereign nation, they are the same rights you have, you just chose not to. You have no right, how ever to interfere in the sovereignty of another nation.

Signed,
Jimmy Burch,
Vice President,
The Theocratic Republic of the Beatus

Greywatch Response:
Encrypted Message To: The Beatus

We can only hope that you're not refering to us in your message as we have not, as of yet, nor are we planning to, made any military threats. We have only sent in messages that protested against what seemed to us as unfair, and asked the Juntastan government/leader to further explain how he can so blatantly insult others and not expect that there will be those that will resort to this kind of action. We in the Greywatch council have no intention of getting involved in a war unless hostile actions are directed towards us specifically. We are planning to remain nuetral in this conflict and only ask that you understand our side of the arguement. Thank you in advance.

From,
Greywatch Council

To the Greywatch Council,

We specifically stated most, not all nations involved. We understand your side, but also want you to understand they're side. Would you persecute Christians for praying? Just because they are different, does not mean they are wrong.

Signed,
Jimmy Burch,
Vice President,
The Theocratic Republic of the Beauts

Official reply from the ASD
We have not attacked this nation due to cultural differences, nor even the threats they made regarding the use of nuclear weaponry but we cannot , in good conscience, allow the use of chemical and biological weapons by a nation that seems to threaten on a whim. Thus in response to the use of these weapons we have declared war.

To the ASD,

Does your nation, or has it ever used chemical, or biological weapons? Should we all invade you for attempting to defend yourself against a much larger force of foreign aggressors? I think not, maybe you should try to see the situation from they're point of view, they are a small, weak nation, simply attempting to preserve the one thing they're people care about, and doing so to the furthest extent of they're power, would your nation not do the same, if it were something that you believe so much in?

Signed,
Jimmy Burch,
Vice President,
The Theocratic Republic of the Beatus

Transmission to The Beatus:

Withdraw your slander, sir! We of the USSPP are in the process of negotiating an end to this conflict! We are offering to provide devices to solve the problem, and
will be clearing the minefield shortly. Thank you.

Penguin Premier, Kysito Kalashvok.

Transmission to All Attacking Nations:

Please withdraw from the minefield, as we will be clearing it soon. Within the next 90 minutes, Concussion bombs will be dropped into the water, detonating the mines harmlessly. Cleanup crews will be sent in to retrieve the remainders of the mines. Thank you.

Penguin Premier, Kysito Kalashvok.

To Kysito Kalashvok,

What right have you to clear the mine field, if they wish to have it in they're waters, to protect themselves, and keep ships that they do not wish to trade with out, than that is they're right as a sovereign nation. You do not see my nation coming into your territory, and attacking your fighter planes, do you? No because it is your right to have fighter planes, to defend your nation, and my nation has no right to deprive yours of means of defense.

Signed,
Jimmy Burch,
Vice President,
The Theocratic Republic of the Beatus
DaWoad
04-07-2008, 08:12
To the ASD,

Does your nation, or has it ever used chemical, or biological weapons? Should we all invade you for attempting to defend yourself against a much larger force of foreign aggressors? I think not, maybe you should try to see the situation from they're point of view, they are a small, weak nation, simply attempting to preserve the one thing they're people care about, and doing so to the furthest extent of they're power, would your nation not do the same, if it were something that you believe so much in?

Signed,
Jimmy Burch,
Vice President,
The Theocratic Republic of the Beatus




Never have we used nor produced Bio, Chemical or nuclear weapons. We would never attempt to threaten many nations larger than ourselves simply for religious reasons and especially over something for which we ourselves have no sovereignty. That being said we have no imperial ambitions over Justasta, we will take out their chemical, bio and nuclear weapons and those who ordered them used and then we will leave. And a friendly piece of advice: any attempt to attack nations weaker than ourselves who find themselves on the side of the ASD in this war will be regarded as an attack upon the ASD itself and treated as such.
The Beatus
04-07-2008, 08:36
Never have we used nor produced Bio, Chemical or nuclear weapons. We would never attempt to threaten many nations larger than ourselves simply for religious reasons and especially over something for which we ourselves have no sovereignty. That being said we have no imperial ambitions over Justasta, we will take out their chemical, bio and nuclear weapons and those who ordered them used and then we will leave. And a friendly piece of advice: any attempt to attack nations weaker than ourselves who find themselves on the side of the ASD in this war will be regarded as an attack upon the ASD itself and treated as such.

To the ASD,

We have no intentions of becoming militarily involved in this conflict at this time, and are appalled that you feel just because you are bigger, and more powerful, that you can dictate what other nations can and can't do. What does Justasta have no sovereignty over? They have sovereignty over they're territory. You can not recognize that sovereignty all you want, but it still exists. We are stunned that your plan consists of removing Justasta's main way of defending it self from larger nations, and those willing to defend their nation, and it's beliefs to the end, unyielding to international pressure, if anything those are the people who should be in power in this nation, those willing to risk everything for the wellbeing of they're people. That is what they are doing, even though it may not seem like it, they think they are doing right. If the international community did not storm in to persecute they're religious beliefs, they would not have lashed out at these foreign nations making threats against their nation and it's people. Most of you did it.

Signed,
Jimmy Burch,
Vice President,
The Theocratic Republic of the Beatus
DaWoad
04-07-2008, 08:48
To the ASD,

We have no intentions of becoming militarily involved in this conflict at this time, and are appalled that you feel just because you are bigger, and more powerful, that you can dictate what other nations can and can't do. What does Justasta have no sovereignty over? They have sovereignty over they're territory. You can not recognize that sovereignty all you want, but it still exists. We are stunned that your plan consists of removing Justasta's main way of defending it self from larger nations, and those willing to defend their nation, and it's beliefs to the end, unyielding to international pressure, if anything those are the people who should be in power in this nation, those willing to risk everything for the wellbeing of they're people. That is what they are doing, even though it may not seem like it, they think they are doing right. If the international community did not storm in to persecute they're religious beliefs, they would not have lashed out at these foreign nations making threats against their nation and it's people. Most of you did it.

Signed,
Jimmy Burch,
Vice President,
The Theocratic Republic of the Beatus

The ASD abides by its values as does any other nation. We will never tolerate weapons such as those used by Justasta. And we are glad that you are not planning on becoming involved as that would have been painful for both our nations. We have not dictated policy to any nation with which we were not at war if anything we were simply protecting our own assets against a country that was attempting to impose its views on our nation. There is no recognized national sovereignty over space which is what Juntasta attempted to claim. They have taken their risk and they have lost it. To leave such weapons in the hands of men who will carelessly use them (as has been seen when they resorted to chemical weapons before even attempting conventional means) at any opportunity will only lead to the destruction of Justasta and these weapons obviously offer no protection against larger nations as it is a larger nation (the ASD) that is removing these weapons as we speak. Finally they threatened other nations sovereignty (property ie. satellites) as their very first move in this conflict. your propaganda piece is admirable but you would have been better off creating fictional civilian casualties.
The Beatus
04-07-2008, 08:54
The ASD abides by its values as does any other nation. We will never tolerate weapons such as those used by Justasta. And we are glad that you are not planning on becoming involved as that would have been painful for both our nations. We have not dictated policy to any nation with which we were not at war if anything we were simply protecting our own assets against a country that was attempting to impose its views on our nation. There is no recognized national sovereignty over space which is what Juntasta attempted to claim. They have taken their risk and they have lost it. To leave such weapons in the hands of men who will carelessly use them (as has been seen when they resorted to chemical weapons before even attempting conventional means) at any opportunity will only lead to the destruction of Justasta and these weapons obviously offer no protection against larger nations as it is a larger nation (the ASD) that is removing these weapons as we speak. Finally they threatened other nations sovereignty (property ie. satellites) as their very first move in this conflict. your propaganda piece is admirable but you would have been better off creating fictional civilian casualties.

To the ASD,

We are saddened, that your people are so cynical to mistake true companion for other people's for propaganda. You must look at it from they're point of view. All of the nations operating satellites over Justasta, violated their sovereignty, by having satellites fly over they're nation. It is obvious that such action deeply troubles, and upsets the people of this nation. Many may have considered it an act of war. Also, they obviously felt threatened, and resorted to chemical weapons, understanding that conventional means would be ineffective and cost the lives of many of they're own citizens.

Signed,
Jimmy Burch
Vice President,
The Theocratic Republic of the Beatus
Zinaire
04-07-2008, 08:58
OOC: Since when was flying a satellite over a nation a violation of their sovereignty?
DaWoad
04-07-2008, 08:59
OOC: it doesn't this is the beatus attempting to create international pressure to save Justasta (though why i'm not too sure) by distorting facts etc. the other way for Beatus to do it would be to declare war which im thinking he doesn't want to do (sorry bout the male pronoun consider it he/she)
To the ASD,

We are saddened, that your people are so cynical to mistake true companion for other people's for propaganda. You must look at it from they're point of view. All of the nations operating satellites over Justasta, violated their sovereignty, by having satellites fly over they're nation. It is obvious that such action deeply troubles, and upsets the people of this nation. Many may have considered it an act of war. Also, they obviously felt threatened, and resorted to chemical weapons, understanding that conventional means would be ineffective and cost the lives of many of they're own citizens.

Signed,
Jimmy Burch
Vice President,
The Theocratic Republic of the Beatus

Justasta has no sovereignty over space. I doubt that the people of the nation are disturbed. had they been there would have been riots or protests but nothing. Instead their religious government threatens the property of other nations with no due cause. Finally the fact that they were willing to unleash chemical weapons in order to "save lives" is ridiculous as it invites retaliation of the same kind (from which other nations have refrained and the ASD has no part in). Finally, at that point, they were under attack by a nation with a military SMALLER than theirs with less funding. Now you see why we consider your work nothing but base propaganda.
The Beatus
04-07-2008, 09:38
OOC: it doesn't this is the beatus attempting to create international pressure to save Justasta (though why i'm not too sure) by distorting facts etc. the other way for Beatus to do it would be to declare war which im thinking he doesn't want to do (sorry bout the male pronoun consider it he/she)


Justasta has no sovereignty over space. I doubt that the people of the nation are disturbed. had they been there would have been riots or protests but nothing. Instead their religious government threatens the property of other nations with no due cause. Finally the fact that they were willing to unleash chemical weapons in order to "save lives" is ridiculous as it invites retaliation of the same kind (from which other nations have refrained and the ASD has no part in). Finally, at that point, they were under attack by a nation with a military SMALLER than theirs with less funding. Now you see why we consider your work nothing but base propaganda.

To the ASD,

We are saddened by your peoples deep cynicism. You lack empathy, the ability to put yourself in the other person's shoes, to see what they see, how they see it. If you were in the same situation what would you have done?

Signed,
Jimmy James,
Vice President
Theocratic Republic of the Beatus
Zinaire
04-07-2008, 09:50
OOC: Smiled and waved at the cameras overhead?
DaWoad
04-07-2008, 09:55
Official Reply:
Smiled and waved at the camera's overhead and defiantly not threaten to shoot them down.
The Beatus
04-07-2008, 10:01
Official Reply:
Smiled and waved at the camera's overhead and defiantly not threaten to shoot them down.

To the ASD,

That is not what I meant. What if you believed that the satellites overhead were a grave threat to your citizens. Don't give me something about how this would never happen, or how your not that stupid. I want you to put yourself in Juntastan's shoes. There are satellites over your nation, operated by other nations, and they pose a grave and imminent threat to you, and every other person in your nation, what would you, and your nation do about it?

Signed,
Jimmy Burch
Vice President
The Theocratic Republic of the Beatus
DaWoad
04-07-2008, 10:09
To the ASD,

That is not what I meant. What if you believed that the satellites overhead were a grave threat to your citizens. Don't give me something about how this would never happen, or how your not that stupid. I want you to put yourself in Juntastan's shoes. There are satellites over your nation, operated by other nations, and they pose a grave and imminent threat to you, and every other person in your nation, what would you, and your nation do about it?

Signed,
Jimmy Burch
Vice President
The Theocratic Republic of the Beatus

ask nicely for other nations to not film our state or find a work around such as literally going underground.
Greywatch
04-07-2008, 10:46
To the Greywatch Council,

We specifically stated most, not all nations involved. We understand your side, but also want you to understand they're side. Would you persecute Christians for praying? Just because they are different, does not mean they are wrong.

Signed,
Jimmy Burch,
Vice President,
The Theocratic Republic of the Beauts


Encrypted Greywatch Response:
To: The Beatus

Its interesting that you claim to understand them, to see it from their side. Yet you understand no one else's feelings, or you at least appear not to. Whether or not they feel the satillites are 'threatening,' they know full well that they are pictures, not, heavens forbid, orbital weapons. So we here ask you, why do you not see it from the other side, the side that has been threatened to have their satillites destroyed on the whim of one people's beliefs. What you claim is that every other nation, combined, is less important than Juntastan. Which is the same egotistic crap we've already gotten from them, yet, we've declared nuetrality. So, obviously, we do understand them somewhat, give us credit where it is due. This does not, however, justify what they threatened to do, and they should have been much more delicate instead of intentionally trying to pick a fight with the rest of the world. And whether they, or you, will understand that is a different matter, but their words were poorly arranged and that is the main source of this conflict. If they felt threatened, they should have swallowed their pride and simply asked kindly, Greywatch would have done the same. Anyone who's ever had to surrender to enemy forces in a war knows the feeling, we're sure. Now it is simply time to 'reap what you sow,' they have angered many nations of the world and now have to nations at their border, they have created the monster that is now attacking them.

From,
The Greywatch Council
East Congaree
04-07-2008, 17:22
From: The East Congaree Presidential Office

To: The Daiwiz head of state


We're more than willing to set up a military alliance in a temporary capacity in this war, with steps towards a long-term friendship/alliance afterwards. We're rotating ten MiG-17s to defend your fleet from air threats. Twenty MiG-21s will cover your ships during the night in addition to the ten MiG-17s.

East Congaree Freedom Party Chairman and East Congaree President- Reginald Deere


50 MiG-17s flew off the deck of the ECWS Cooter to conduct their second round of night raids against Juntastanian warships. Only 28 had been in the night raid before, as 22 were called in for this high-priority assignment when 22 had been shot down the night before. Those in the operation the night before thought they'd see a great deal of less action this night after the three hour nightime onslaught they had put up the night before against the iron beasts that prowled the water near Juntastan.

Forty MiG-21s and seventy MiG-29s went off the decks of the two new aircraft carriers that had been sent in as re-enforcements. The carrier that held the MiG-29s was the largest ship in the fleet, coined the ECWS Catfish. These aircraft would conduct a different type of operation than the slower, older MiG-17s. With most of their air-air missiles removed and their cannons taken off for longer flight time (each aircraft having two aphid missiles and no cannons- the rest of the space filled by fuel tanks) , they would fly over to the Juntastanian mainland and attempt to bring down whatever Juntastanian aircraft lay in the skies. Grounding the airforce and destroying the Juntastanian navy was a priority to make Juntastan mold into whatever East Congaree wanted it to do- and they figured doing just that would be easy. Five days of night raids on the navy and airforce would hopefully end the existance of both forces in Juntastan.

Meanwhile, in battle over the water that day, things proved to be only more difficult. In the old task force, 45 gunboats, 2 galveston class cruisers, the only Arleigh-Burke class destroyer in the old task force, an Iowa class battleship, and twelve guided missile submarines along with four non-missile ones being sunk. The new task force had 35 of its' own gunboats sunk along with three galveston class cruisers and twoof the Arleigh-burke class destroyers. The prospect came to mind that the Juntastanian navy could make East Congaree's entirenaval capacity no more than a brown-water force with a few shore defense guns and surveilance planes. Could the nation that enshrined its own military and had entered the war thinking it would sweep away Juntastan get caught up in it's own arrogance and lose the conflict? Or was East Congaree's military "superiority" concept derived from its leaders' unrealized case of meglomania? Could Juntastan bring East Congaree to its knees?
Daiwiz
04-07-2008, 17:45
To:The Beatus government
From: The United Socialist States of Daiwiz

We would have had no problems, at all of the Juntastanian people being in possession of Chemical, Biochemical, or nuclear weapons. What we cannot allow, however, is the use of said weapons. If he had merely threatened with them, I would not have sent forces in to eliminate the weapons. But because he has used these weapons on nations I see as friends, I see no other choice, but for him to relinquish the weapons of mass destruction. If we all used the chlorine gases he is using, it would devolve into world war three, with many losses, both civilian and military. Had he taken the offered blockers from other nations, and withdrawn his demands, I, and many others, would have let him be. We are merely acting from what we can currently see as the best option. Is not the point of being here to make the best of bad decisions? This is the best, from my perspective, for if he remained in control of these weapons, he would only become more dangerous. We are doing this so as to prevent future wars. My forces will not fire at any of his forces unless fired upon. We are currently going after four targets. The chlorine plants, the dangerous chlorine stockpiles, the nuclear stockpiles, and the leader who authorised he use of the Bio weapons. We shall not put him to death, but instead we will give him back to his country, and place laws upon the nation. For example, reduced trade, a very limited military power, etc. We would also fear what would happen if a power crazed, violent, leader came into power of a country with nukes, bio weapons, and chemical weapons. We will continue the operation, until he either surrenders to our demands, or we have accomplished the objectives. We will be sending schematics to the nation, to prove we are not spying on them. Good day.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow

________encrypted message to East Congareen forces

We do not require your airforces support at this time. We will, however, ask that you land your ground troops on the island of Juntastan, and assist us in the elimination of the weapons. You shall have your hands full with their navy, and will need as much help as possible I imagine. We shall send two of our Barracuda class submarines, and 2 of our Iroqouis class destroyers. An alliance would benefit us both, I'm sure. We may be able to trade you weapons, and trout in small amounts for the time being. If this is satisfactory then may the trade lanes open.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow

________The West District of Juntastan, chlorine factory

"Hurry it up! Lay down a base of fire here! I'm hit I'm hit!" These were a few of the cries of the marines, that were assaulting the chlorine factory.
"CHLORINE!! GET YOUR MASKS ON!" Yelled Lt.Rasper. The Chlorine was drifting in waves towards them, like a cloud of death. It only made sense that the workers, and troops stationed there would use it. After all, they had an almost infinite supply.
The assault was not going so well, as the factory was more heavily guarded, and defendable as they had believed. They Juntastans were fighting as if they had nothing to lose, which may have been true. The Patton tanks they had been given were still trying to go through the river, as the Juntastanians, had blocked the bridge.
The Commanchees, and Hueys were also unable to assist them. The 'copters had been forced to turn back, because the Juntastanese airforce had been too close by. The other attacks, though, were going quite well.
Penguin Protection
04-07-2008, 19:57
As the assault on the chlorine factory continued, A VTOL bearing the Logo of the USSPP hovered overhead, before setting down a comfortable distance away from the East Congareese marines. The rear ramp thudded down, and a compliment of workers in what appeared to be slightly stripped down space suits piled out. They jogged towards the clouds, shrugging on racks of a neutralizing agent over their oxygen tanks, and, sprayer nozzles in hand, waded into the fray, disappearing into the clouds of green gas.

Transmission to East Congaree:

Unable to stand the sight of human suffering any longer, we are sending in teams equipped to neutralize the gas. We can loan you some hazard suits, they are really slightly stripped down space-suits we bought second-hand from a nation that needed the money.

~Penguin Premier, Kysito Kalashvok
Aprika
04-07-2008, 20:32
In the early hours of the morning, Juntastanian time, five sleek gray warships pushed through the water about 90 miles off the coast of Juntastan. Accompanying the warships was a supply ship, hanging back under the protection of the RAS Gecko battleship and RAS Port Jason frigate and two Kilo-class submarines underneath the waves. It was a warm morning, the sun just beginning to creep over the horizon, and dry as bone, or at least as dry as the air can be several miles away from the nearest landmass.

Although it was sure to be a perfect summer day, and the mission was not at the time particularly stressful, Admiral John Eastham in the command bridge aboard the Gecko was particularly sour. He was in command of the task
force, and he was rather good at his job, but this mission seemed in his mind to be somewhat foolish. Aprika had no real need to be involved in this conflict, and it would be much better just to leave Juntastan alone, as they were likely to be toasted no matter how much Aprika threw at them, or threw at their aggressors. Those aggressors being a large, multi-national task force made up of many massive nations with populations numbering in the billions, and between them probably an armed forces bigger than the entire population of Aprika. One wrong move and it would not just be Juntastan getting toasted in this incident.

Beyond this, he had heard that Juntastan had been deploying poison gas weapons against combatants who had barely provoked use of force. His task force was equip with the best stuff Aprika had to counter such an attack, but he still felt uncomfortable going head to head against an enemy who was willing to gas him to death for having the nerve to come within 50 miles of his nation and happen to use signaling flares.

Although Aprika was still neutral, so there was no head to head combat going on, he reminded himself. Yeah right. Juntastan had shown they did not plan to show any mercy. He was of the opinion that there was only a very slim chance Aprika would stay neutral through the entire conflict. It was only a matter of time before either his ships were fired upon, or the government gave the order to go to war against Juntastan unprovoked. No matter what happened, he didn't have much doubt that he was the guy getting screwed. Aprika didn't even operate satellites above Juntastan.

It was inevitable that a forwards recon mission would be required at some point in the future. It was just a question of if to deploy the submarines or the aircraft. Maybe the submarines would be harder to detect, but if detected, they would present a larger, slower, easier target for whatever war-hungry commanders were at the time duking it out 35 miles further out. It was thus decided that an aircraft scout mission would be carried out to assess the situation at close quarters.

On the deck of the RAS Victorious, nine nearly brand new MR-1A "Claymore II" strike fighters, the entirety of the 4th Naval Air Strike Squadron, aka the "Fighting Fourth", rolled into position. One flight (Three planes under the Aprikan Navy command structure) rolled up to the catapults to prepare for launch. Behind them on the rear of the deck, the next two flights were finishing up their pre-flight procedures and loading.

Wary of the possible violent reaction to the entrance of a new force into the conflict, the planes were taking off with a full combat load. Two Kh-35 "Uran" anti-ship missile, two Vympel R-73 short range air-to-air missiles, and four Vympel R-77 medium range air-to-air missiles were loaded on each plane. By now the first flight had taken off, leaving behind plumes of steam and the roar of jet engines. Another flight advanced to takeoff position, as the battle group began to turn slightly to remain facing directly into the wind.

Admiral Eastham watched from his stance on the deck of the Gecko as the second, and then third flights of the Fighting Fourth roared off the deck of the Victorious. A lower ranking officer, obviously flustered by what could possibly began his first combat duty, arrived, summoning Eastham away to the communications post of the battleship to make his announcement.

On an open channel that research had shown was used by frequently by the Juntastanian navy as well as merchants in the area, a broadcast was made.

"Hello. I am Admiral John C. Eastham of the Aprikan Navy, commander of the RAS Victorious carrier battle group and captain of the RAS Gecko battleship. My nation and my task force is undertaking a mission to maintain the stability of this region, and to respond to any potential threats to the Republic of Aprika or the global community. We have launched a squadron of nine strike fighter aircraft on over the naval zone were tensions have currently been escalating between an international task force and the nation of Juntastan."

"I deeply regret the need to launch fully armed fighter aircraft as part of this peaceful mission to maintain world peace and stability, but the unchecked escalation of tensions within this region would have made it suicidal to launch unarmed aircraft for this recon mission. We ask simply that no civilian or military personal be alarmed by this mission. Furthermore, we must make it clear that any attempt to damage these aircraft or my fleet will be considered an act of war against the Republic of Aprika and will be responded to accordingly. I repeat, to fire upon any vessels or aircraft under my command will be considered an act of war against the Republic of Aprika and will be responded to accordingly."

"Our mission is simply to allow this region to return to stability. I sincerely hope that this conflict can be solved through peaceful means, so that no more force must be used, and no more lives must be spent."

And so I can get home and get a decent meal for the first time in weeks... muttered Admiral Eastham.

"That is all I must say. I reiterate that this conflict should be resolved with the olive branch of diplomacy, not with the guns and bombs of the huge naval forces amassing of the shore of Juntastan."

This message was re-broadcast several times on multiple channels. Admiral Eastham simply hoped that all parties involved had heard and taken note of his communication, otherwise war would surely be the result. As this message
was broadcast, the first of the MR-1s reached the area around 50 miles off Juntastan and began to get a look at the true extent of the chaos that had engulfed the seas of this region in the past few days...
DaWoad
04-07-2008, 20:45
MARCOM Landing forces
The marines had landed on the shore with no problems and wolf class IFVs were spreding forward in a recon screen as combat engineers dug in on the beechs. A flight of twenty AH-1Zs vectored towards the chlorine factory attack that seemd to be stalled as overhead F-22 raptors flew air superiority mission and F-35s went about neutralizing Enemy airfields. From the coats the MARCOM ships had now reverted soley to TLAMs and were targeting millitary bases and bunkers across Juntasta as MARCOM Subs moved to blockade enemmy naval ports.
Daiwiz
04-07-2008, 20:46
OOC: penguin it's my forces attacking the chlorine plant right now. not East Congareen forces. Thanks for sending troops though. We already have gas masks, which work well enough for what we require.

As the clouds of noxious gas kept rolling towards the stranded marines, one of them noticed a ship descending from the sky. It was a VTOL, from the USSPP. Once it landed, USSPP troops began dissembarking, armed with hoses, and suits that were for space. Seeing this new development, the marines began fighting with renewed force, towards the factory. As they were advancing, an earth shattering explosion echoed from behind them.
Like an amored behemoth, one of their two patton tanks, began rolling its way slowly, and deliberately up the steep muddy slope. As it let out another blast, its machine gun opened up spraying the facility, with round after high velocity round. While the marines were still taking losses, with the tank behind them, they knew they could do it.

______landing beach Alpha

The marines assaulting from the sea, had an easy task. It appeared that the Juntastans did not expect a landing here, and so were unprepared. As the marines began to push back the small holding force, the vehicle transport began to offload the precious cargo. While the guns on the transports provided covering fire, assisted by the marines, the humvees quickly began moving out. They took up positions, and began launching their TOW missiles, and firing the chain guns mounted above. Within a mere two hours the beachead was secure, with very minimul losses. Soon the tanks, medical personnel, and the ammunitons, were landing upon the beach. It seemed that there may be minimal bloodshed. All they could hope, is the Juntastanese airforce, and navy would put up such minor resistance.

______cockpit of M18 Harrier

"There you are you little bastard. Woot! I got him!" yelled flight pvt.Doyle, as he flew threw the fireball, that was once a Juntastanian aircraft. The Harriers were proving quite useful against the airforce, as they were outmatched by the Harrier. Losses were minimal, but more and more planes were being lost to AA guns, on both ships, and land. What began with 30 Harriers, was now a remnant, of 22 planes. Most pilots had been rescued by assisting navies, but a few good men still were lost. They did not have the range to properly assist the ground troops, or hit the airfields, but they were still eliminating planes like flies. They hoped these were merely reserves, for the skills were ammaising.

_______149 feet below water

"Turn right, 12 degrees, ensign. Full stop, and launch torpedos when ready." These were the orders of captain Rodriguez, currently assisting the East Congareen navy.
"Torpedo on my mark. Five, Four, Three, Two, One, Mark. Fish in the water. Estimated contact in 1.2 mintues and counting sir."
"We have a new contact, bearing 179 degrees starboard, sir. Juntastanian surface ship. Destroyer 30 thousand tons plus, from the sounds." calmly cried out the radar operator.
The entire Barracuda class sub was a hive of activity, as crew, and officers alike, raced to do jobs that needed to be done right now. They hoped the destroyer would not discover them 1.2 miles away, for if it did, it would surely sink her.

_______an intercept route to the chlorine factory assault

"Cobra Five-Niner, this is Cobra Five-Seven. We have visual on the facility bearing 4 o'clock. We do not see any green smoke deployed on the rooftop. We have spotted a USSPP VTOL on the ground, however. It appears to be deploying troops. Unsure wether they are friendlies, or hostiles. Suggest hailing them, over." Said the Commanchee gunner.
"Affirmative, Five-Seven. Hailing on all radio frequencies now. Over" The pilot in Cobra flight, Commanchee division replied. He instantly began hailing on all available frequencies.
"USSPP VTOL, in the vicinity of the chlorine factory, this is Cobra Flight commander Lt.Bakers, of the
1st TUSSDAF air cavalry division. Are you friendly or hostile? Repeat, are you friendly or hostile? Over." He began waiting for a reply, and hoping they were friendly.
East Congaree
04-07-2008, 21:07
To: Daiwiz Head of State

From: East Congaree Presidential Office


Thank you for your naval support in the form of two submarines and two destroyers. We know such a contribution is a huge thing for a small nation such as yours, and it will be worth a lot in the advance to drive Juntastan to their shores. We congratulate you dropping troops on the mainland- we thought no one could get troops in with the seas being full of battles and thus no amphibious assaults, and with the skies themselves being a wreck- such an incredible stroke of luck will still demoralize them no matter what happens to your forces there. Once the seas and skies are clear of conflict, we will ship a great deal of ground forces to the mainland to provide help to your ground forces in the invasion of Juntastan.


East Congaree Freedom Party Chairman and East Congaree President - Reginald Deere


To: The Penguin Protection Head of State

From: The East Congaree Presidential Office

We do not know of any ground forces we have on the Juntastanian mainland, perhaps you are confusing them with the troops Daiwiz airdropped in. However, we do have a major concern. We wish for you to break your neutrality and side with those who haven't used unconventional warfare. After we fired conventional ordinance, the Juntastanians responded with unconventional weaponry. Maintaining our morals, we will NOT fight with unconventional weapons. In result of their bizarre use of unconventional warfare, we wish for you to side with us. We also inform you that we will not use diplomacy during this war until we take their land entirely with our allies and co-belligerents. Siding with us will be rewarded with a new offer of 200,000 taels of silver and 100 taels of gold. Siding with us will stop the bloodshed more quickly by contributing your forces to a quicker campaign.

East Congaree Freedom Party Chairman and Presient- Reginald Deere



As the day wore on, the old task force suffered more casualties. Twenty guboats, four galveston-class destroyers, and eight missile subs were sunk. In the new task force, two gunboats, one Arleigh-Burke class destroyer, and six galveston class cruisers were sunk. It was not until later in that day, just before the third night raid began, however, that problems stirred even further.

Just as the carrier containing the MiG-17s prepared for its final checks for the third night raid on the Juntastanian navy, eight 5 inch shells hit the command post and the deck of the ship. MiGs blew up with their pilots inside them, setting the whole deck on fire. Some jumped overboard, but were later caught up when the diesel in the ship caught fire and blew up the ship. All 1480 members of the crew died. Nearby, the explosion sunk two gunboats and severely damaged a galveston class cruiser. No longer would fiends of the night be able to pray upon the Juntastanian navy, just two carriers in the new task force would seek out Juntastanian airforce aircraft. Through the night, four more gunboats and two missile submarines were sunk in the old task force. The new task force lost another galveston class cruiser and five gunboats. The night raiding party suffered, too, with 18 of the 20 MiG-21s sent on the mission ending up in flames over open water. Of the 40 MiG-29s sent out that night, only eight would return. By sunrise, the Juntastanians had sunk another carrier, the one containing the MiG-21s. Of the ship's 1350 crew members, only 400 survived. They were quickly given shelter in the ECWS Catfish's cargo area, the best space they could find to fit them in. The lumbering battleships were destroyed by twelve o'clock noon, and every gunboat in the new task force lay on the bottom of the ocean. The galveston class cruisers, all out of ammunition, suffered the same fate. Two more guided missile submarines were sunk.

East Congaree president Reginald Deere toyed with a .357 magnum that he raised up to his throat before tossing it across the room. His severe depression only worsened with terrible reports from the battlefront, fearing his homeland would be struck by the Juntastanians soon. He asked the Grand World Order to provide assistance if such a thing happened, as he feared Magna Polis's nation would have to save his people soon.....
Daiwiz
04-07-2008, 21:29
To: East congareen government
From: TUSSD

We are quite close to the Juntastanian capital, and shall be sending our forces to capture their ruler. Once we have him in our control, we sahll be able to end this war, and your navy will survive. We will be sending the dreadnought Bayern to assist your forces. We have also completed a new CVL carrier, which we shall send to assist your task force. We have already sunk: two destroyers, one dreadnought, and three submarines. We hope that these will take pressure off your forces. We are also bringing a newly finished regiment of M1A2s and M3A3/M2A3 Bradleys. We shall give you a small contingent of these vehicles. We will also give your a regiment of regulars, freshly trained, and a flight of F22s fresh off of the combined MARCOM Daiwizian production line. Also included will be Harriers. Also en rout, are a new shipment of a weapon that my nation has discovered. The "Panzerfaust 3T" as it is known, can penetrate up to 800 mm of armor, has a maximum rane of 600 m, after which the warhead explodes. It is a single shot recoiless gun, and we shall give your forces a full shipment of these. You can check the rest of the specs at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 . We hope that these forces will assist you in your fight, and should you need me, please ask it of us. We shall soon send our entire navy that is in this theater of operations, to your assistance.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow

To: DaWoad
From: TUSSD

We have created a new AT weapon, that is frightening in its power. It can penetrate up to 800 mm of armor, its accurate up to 600 meters, and it can be fired from an enclosed space. I would like to give your forces as many as they need, for their protection. You can learn more about it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 . We shall be using these weapons in Juntastan once the shipment arrive. We hope that this will strengthen our freindship.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
Penguin Protection
04-07-2008, 21:32
Transmission to attacking forces

Greetings:

We accept East Congaree's offer and are joining the battle. Bombers are now en route, and one of them is carrying an experimental weapon that we think you should decide if we should use. It is a MOAB, designed to utterly destroy most of a city with none of the radiation effects of a nuclear bomb. At aproximately 50 feet, a small charge blows, spreading a highly flammable gas, which is ignited, creating an immense shockwave. This technology is known, and there is documentation on the web.(see the OOC) The question is, should we use it?

~Penguin Premier, Kysito Kalashvok


Over the Skies of Juntastan, Large bulbous aircraft filled the sky with the scream of jet engines, each dropping a large device. Once out of the aircraft, the outer casing split off, revealing 15 Air to ground missiles in each device, which promptly launched, each speeding toward a artillery turret or weapons factory on the Juntastan coast with surgical precision.
DaWoad
04-07-2008, 21:37
OOC: um generally this would be considerd godmoding seing as how were giving juntasta no chance to defende themselves (and that doesn'y mean RP casualities to yourself) so maybe hold off until Juntasta comes backk? btw im gone for a week rl (may have acess to a comp. but prbably not)) but feel free to rp arial or artillary suporrt from my ships.
Daiwiz
04-07-2008, 21:42
OOC:alright then. My forces arent going to take anything more than what they currently have. They may gain reinforcements, and losses, but it will be a standstill. penguin you didnt message my commanchees back. if you dont they will take action as they see fit. trying to make it realistic this way.
Penguin Protection
04-07-2008, 21:55
Transmission to Daiwiz copters:

Really, that's up to you. We're neutralizing Chlorine Gas, so that makes us friendly, unless you like it there.


Penguin Premier, Kysito Kalashvok

((And I think we should at least wait for One Juntastan post.))
Daiwiz
04-07-2008, 22:04
As the Commanchee leader hears the reply, he smiles.
"Well, I don't know if we want it there, but we want it cleaned up, thats for sure. We shall give you cover from the Juntastanians, while you dispose of the chlorine. Have a nice day."

______message to the USSPP VTOL chlorine squad

We appreciate your work very much. We would ask that you dispose of any chlorine we find in the plant, so as to not risk losses, due to lack of knowledge. We shall secure the facility, and you can go in and eliminate all sources of the gas. Thank you.

Military leader of TUSSD
Penguin Protection
04-07-2008, 22:57
Transmission to the Daiwiz Commanchee leader:

Roger that, we'll land a larger cleanup force, our one currently there is an expeditionary one. We also have a tank that we can retrofit for the cleanup. It will arrive soon. We can also send in a standard tank, a force of 30 troops, and a commando team.

Penguin Premier, Kysito Kalashkov.

A larger VTOL than the troop carriers roared overhead, the downblast drawing up a cloud of mist from the water. It slowly settled down onto the shore, its rear ramp lowering as what appeared to be a tank rolled out. However, on second inspection, the barrel was all wrong. It ended in a flaring nozzle like that of a pressurized fire extenguisher. As it rolled into the green clouds, a white gas sprayed from the nozzle, and the green clouds of chlorine began to disappear, falling to the ground in a toxic liquid. Behind the tank, more suited workers spread down pellets of absorbant material, basically industrial strength kitty litter. Four more VTOLS came after, one disgorging another tank, this one a standard model, another offloading 50 armed troops and supplies, another a commando team and workers to support the force, and the last unloaded several prefab buildings. Within a few hours a beachhead was set up, with a headquarters for the cleanup crew and the rest of the USSPP force.
Daiwiz
04-07-2008, 23:12
Above the blasting of the patton tanks, and the rat-a-tat-tat of small arms fire, the lt. heard new VTOLs landing. Quickly he raced over, narrowly missing a bullet. Once he was able to get to the ships, he began to tell them not to set up the HQ yet, as this was still contested territory.
"Get those buildings outa here! They are making a great target for Juntastanian snipers! Theres all sorts a'shit flying around still! And get your cleanup crews behind my forces. They too, make a lovely target for snipers." He yelled, so loud it hurt. With hand gestures he showed them where to go. He only hoped they understood, for he did not wish for any other lives to be lost.
Penguin Protection
04-07-2008, 23:44
"Allright, We can neutralize the gas down to the liquid you saw, absorbing it can wait. Until than, tell your men to exercise extra caution in the areas we spray." Kor, The USSPP operation commander said, his voice slightly tinny through the space suit's speakers. Adjusting his radio to each of the frequencies, he handed out orders. Building construction was to cease, the buildings to be loaded back onto the VTOL. Cleanup crews get behind the Dawiz forces. The neutralizing tank crew can keep neutralizing, just don't get too far from the beach. Standard tank should take orders from the Dawiz marines on where to fire. "Okay. The orders are passed out. Our Tank crews will take orders from you on where to fire and to neutralize, we're dismantaling the buildings, and the crews working on absorbing it will get behind your forces. We'll see if we can work a mechanism to spread the absorbing agent into an humvee or armored car, if you have one."
East Congaree
05-07-2008, 08:03
On the Catfish , the amount of success against the Juntastanians was acknowledged. Captain Michael Thurmond II, the son of the navy's elite head, stared across at the other MiG-29 pilot that wondered how the war would be won. His hopes were low with the MiG-29s and MiG-21s (in the MiG-21s case- all of which were shot down or sunk) only being able to conduct air-air operations 5-10 km in front of the East Congaree naval groups in the quieter dark before they were confronted by overwhelming firepower from freshly dispatched Juntastanian fighter regiments. Fighter aircraft reaching the mainland to conduct operations was attempted, but wouldn't be a reality for awhile- if ever. On the seas, East Congaree forces were being slaughtered by the Juntastanians' display of unconventional warfare mixed with regular warfare- a move that had sunk some 50,000+ sailors and officers to their deaths. If East Congaree ships continued to be sunk at this rate, an artificial island would pop up out of the ocean around Juntastan- which would probably come under its' sovreignty and thus expand its' territorial waters annoyingly further out. With all East Congaree logistics ships coming in being destroyed by the Juntastanian navy, the ship had to ration its food and water consumption to unhealthy levels- which amounted to about 400 calories and four cups of water per day. Shells and AA couldn't be fired off at any sort of great rate- once again due to the amount of logistics ships successfully resupplying East Congaree's forces being equal to zero. They had to be concerned, and as a rule of thumb only eight AA rounds could be shot off each half hour- on any individual AA gun of the ships or submarines. Using the shells on the gunboats was limited to the rate of twoper hour- at which they would burn up their whole supply in the next forty-eight hours. The MiG-29s would conduct the fourth anti-fighter mission that night- maybe their last, as they were to be out of Aphids the next morning if they burned them up that night. The scary prospect of only going out with a cannon on the fifth night seemed to be a reality slowly creeping closer to some of the pilots.
Penguin Protection
05-07-2008, 16:01
Transmission to East Congaree:

Greetings:

We of the USSPP have noticed that you seem to be running low on supplies. Would you like us to fly some in? We can have the supply craft here within 10 hours.
Dostanuot Loj
05-07-2008, 17:01
OOC: Guys how are you winning a war with a guy who hasn't posted here in two days? Perhaps you should pull yourselves back a little and give him a chance to read the thread and reply.

Not to mention all these victories you're scoring is godmoding. He gets to claim his casualties to your attacks, not you. And vice versa for your casualties.
Daiwiz
05-07-2008, 17:15
As crew from the downed East Congaree ships are asked questions, a fightening tale evolves. They tell of having next, to no ammunition, severe rations, that were unhealthy, and lack of everything else. After hearing these frightful stories, the TUSSD decided to send most of their supplies to the East Congareen fleet. They were positioned at a different angle from Juntastan, and so were able to travel through friendly waters. While the new CVL TUSSDS Braitak was being loaded with her supplies, new harriers, and F22s were being loaded. Their task was to assist the East Congareen airforce, in gaining air superiorty, and to put as many holes as possible, in the Juntastanian ships of war. At the same time, tanks that were fresh off the assembly line, were being loaded upon transports. Destination: Juntastan. They were to break the current stalemate, and capture the island of Juntastan. It had been decided, that the war would not end, merely by capturing the weapons, but by capturing the island.

______just outside the chlorine factory

"Thank you USSPP cleanup forces. We wish for the tank to move into firing position for the third floor. We shall provide cover for your cleanup crews behind us, but beware of snipers still. We have not encountered, armor, air forces, nor artillery. Thank you for your assistance. We appreciate it greatly."
Said the lt, with his voice being muffled by the mask. He hoped they didn't run into any of the afore mentioned, because they were having a difficult time without them. They hoped that the reinforcements would show up soon, so as to make the big push inwards. With that thought, the USSPP tank began to roll forward into firing position.

______inland from the landing beach

Half the humvees were blown, two of the Pattons were gone, and they were still stuck in these damned hedgerows!
"Why did they land us here of all places?" moaned pvt. Keith, the company gunner.
"Because this," lt.brown points to the surrounding area, "is the best place for us. The rest of the area is like this, and swampy! Now tell me, would you want to go through a swamp, that's alot like," he ducks his head as a grenade goes off nearby, "this shit?" He turns back to firing his SABR at the entrenched Juntastanians. "Take that Junty!" He yells as a Juntastanian goes down.
"I'm hit! I'm hit! Oh God leftenant, I've been hit!" Screams out Keith. As soon as he hears this, Lt. Brown hurries over.
"Stop screaming like a baby! Look. It didn't penetrate the Dragon skin, you big baby! Get back to firing." He turns back to his position in the line, when suddenly a call of "Tank! North East!" comes out over the Comm. He turns towards it, and sees the tank, headed straight for his position. He quickly attempts to take out a PanzerFaust 3, but it's been entangled.
Now a mere 50 metres away, the tank opens fire with the machine gun, spraying his area, with 50 caliber rounds. Suddenly, the PanzerFaust comes loose, and he takes aim. Just as he's about to fire, at minimum range, another soldier takes the shot. A direct hit! The tank goes up in a ball of red orange flame, spraying shrapnel all around, and the turret sliding off from the force of the blast. That was close. Too close.

OOC: if you look at how many replies he's put, hes never really on. we are currently fighting a stalemate, and would lose if it was not for eachother. my armored forces are currently losing for not having been trained/built for the terrain. the marines at the chlorine factory are being staved off by the stalwart defenders, and my navy is currently staying back a bit, assisting the East Congareens. We won't win the war or anything without him.
East Congaree
05-07-2008, 18:18
OOC: Guys how are you winning a war with a guy who hasn't posted here in two days? Perhaps you should pull yourselves back a little and give him a chance to read the thread and reply.

Not to mention all these victories you're scoring is godmoding. He gets to claim his casualties to your attacks, not you. And vice versa for your casualties.


OOC: I haven't claimed any casualties against him. I've claimed that i've had mine, and I haven't claimed to have penetrated his airspace further than outside where the battle is taking- where he agreed it was taking- on the seas outside his nation.
Penguin Protection
05-07-2008, 18:31
((I haven't claimed casualties, either.))
East Congaree
05-07-2008, 18:48
((OOC: This is not godmodding because I am dealing with internal rebellion here, not with foreign troops.))

Rebellions of citizens in liberal cities broke out, killing 4,000 military police and 26,000 citizens. This was in Chihuahua, Piedras Negras, Matamoras, and New Orleans alone. Laborers broke out in many regions (even pro-right wing/government ones where such liberals were a minority) , forming "socialist republics" in cities. These rebellions were squashed, but at the cost of three infantry divisions (42,000 troops). In Norfolk, a mutiny broke out amongst navy sailors- who were later backed up by infantrymen- against the government. This rebellion was stopped by military police and troops shipped from other regions- but only at the price of losing 1,500 and killing 3,000 of their own kind. In Culpeper, younger army conscripts broke out and killed 400 officers, NCO's, and other pro-leadership infantrymen in the night before the mutiny was put down executed the next morning. One thing remained in common about all these forces- they identified themselves with Juntastan, speaking of "It's impossible to fight a good nation with military superiority." Some Freedom party members fretted as their forces were clipped through at the battlefront, fearing that once the task forces were taken out entirely, the navy couldn't scurry enough ships out of its ports to protect East Congaree from Juntastan submersiviles and smaller ships that could sneak dangerously close to East Congaree shores. With this- one fourrth of the East Congaree Navy's offensive force was shipped to the battlefront with Juntastan. It was to be the biggest task force in East Congaree history- and a big gamble, as once the force was burned up- if it was burned up- there would only be a barebones force to fight the foriegn war against Juntastan's co-belligerent, The Tokyoni People's Republic. It would also leave a smaller force to defend the nation- barely one capable like it seemed or was before the war. All surface ships other than logistics, refueling, and gunboats had been fitted with a single 20mm CIWS phalanx. The task force included the following.


==Aircraft Carriers==

Five Aircraft carriers carrying 75 MiG-21s (to be used in anti-Juntastan aircraft capacities)

Two Aircraft carriers carrying 55 MiG-23s (to be used in anti-Juntastanian aircraft capacities)

One aircraft carrier carrying 92 MiG-17s (to be used in anti-Juntastanian navy capacities)


== Cruisers==

90 Galveston class guided-missile cruisers (to be used in anti-Juntastanian navy capacities)


==Destroyers==

Twenty-five Arleigh-Burke class destroyers (to be used in anti-Juntastanian aircraft, navy, ground, and civilian capacities)

== Battleships==

One Iowa class battleship (to be used in anti-Juntastanian navy and ground capacities)

==Gunboats==

Six-hundred standard East Congaree gunboats (details described in previous posts- but used in an anti-Juntastanian navy/ground capacity with some anti-juntastanian air capacity)


== Submarines ==

380 Whiskey class double-cylinder guided missile submarines. (to be used in anti-juntastanian ground and naval roles primarily, some anti-Juntastanian aircraft capability)

50 Foxtrot class submarines (to be used in anti-Juntastanian navy capacities)

20 Romeo class submarines (to be used in anti-juntastanian navy capacities)


==Refueling, Carrying, and Logistics ships==

Twice the amount of refuling ships needed.

Twice the amount of logistics ships needed.

Twelve carrying ships- these are shps that carry ten torpedo boats, '39 long skiffs with one 12.7 mm machine gun and two small torpedoes. They also carry logistics supplies and act as a "housing and cooking" complex to those whose own ships were sunk.
Daiwiz
06-07-2008, 03:25
OOC: EC, if you have an army might i suggest sending those forces who are not fighting revolts to juntastan. Once he finally gets back they will be of great use. also, my entire task force will be assisting you. The transports with the new forces should be arriving soon. We will also be sending most logistics support to you forces.
East Congaree
06-07-2008, 18:19
((OOC: If I can clear his navy I will try to invade his mainland. Until then, any force I would send would get chewed up in the fighting. We'll see how many ships he's lost when he gets back. I don't even know how many ships he's lost as of now, or any total force he's lost. As of now i'm assuming he still has a full force out there (he determines his casualties) and would chew up any force I try to send to his mainland. I can't even assume my forces could penetrate his mainland, yet alone water closer than 40 miles off his shoreline. He'll determine what my forces have done, and i'll keep plunking away at him until his navy and airforce are mostly or completely destroyed. Once that's done, i'll send in a ground force of significant size. If you have MiG-21s or MiG-29s those would be useful, but my fighter and strike pilots are completely uneducated in using American aircraft other than the F-4 Phantom II. Food, water, ammunition of equal size and form to all the ships, and deisel.))
Penguin Protection
06-07-2008, 18:25
((If you want, I might be able to provide an A-10 Warthog to help. It's not designed for air to air, but that gatling gun is a real killer.))
Daiwiz
06-07-2008, 18:29
((i suggest using it on the ship.if it can penetrate depleted uraium plates on a tank, it can penetrate a ships hull. I noly produce the M18 Harrier, and F22 unfortunately. Will send the supplies required. might i suggest taking a long route, by sending the force to my mainland, hen going through the passage we are keeping open? Also i think hes gotten bored of the game, and wont be back. i will leave my forces for another day, then pull them out.
Penguin Protection
06-07-2008, 18:41
((Same here.))
Daiwiz
07-07-2008, 00:40
OOC: we are agreed then. dunno where to send the forces though lol. could just start something like a practice war. the two of us could even have a war pingu :)
Penguin Protection
07-07-2008, 00:51
OOC: As long as its' a Simulated War. Plus you could help the Penguinis Sapiens, or Pinguins, with building an army.
Daiwiz
07-07-2008, 00:54
OOC: very good idea. if this doesn't pick up, do you want to make plans for that?if so ill make a thread for planning, and if anyone wants to join.will need to limit the number of ppl though, i think.
Penguin Protection
07-07-2008, 00:56
((Sure! To the Bat-forum, Robin!))
Pushistymistan
07-07-2008, 00:58
((i suggest using it on the ship.if it can penetrate depleted uraium plates on a tank, it can penetrate a ships hull. I noly produce the M18 Harrier, and F22 unfortunately. Will send the supplies required. might i suggest taking a long route, by sending the force to my mainland, hen going through the passage we are keeping open? Also i think hes gotten bored of the game, and wont be back. i will leave my forces for another day, then pull them out.

( No. Tank armor and naval armor are very different things. Krupp cemented armor is very much superior to what the T-Bolt II is intended to deal with: i.e. thin armor on the top of the turret, not the turret mantle or glacis plate. )
Daiwiz
07-07-2008, 00:59
OOC to the extreme: *batman music* "I'm not Robin! That's copyright! I'm*drumroll* Bobbin! Look! It's the Penguin!" To: Pushist....
i thank you for that. i was just going by what i thought. sorry for not putting your full name, but i dont put down full names that confuse me.

to: Super Pingu! what should we call it?
Penguin Protection
07-07-2008, 01:03
((Hmm... I got it! Developing Warfarce: A Tactical Simulation/Comedy
Daiwiz
07-07-2008, 01:10
((Hmm... I got it! Developing Warfarce: A Tactical Simulation/Comedy

very nice very nice. will create it. royal canadian airfarce? heres the link http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13817506#post13817506
Zackaroth
07-07-2008, 01:52
OOC the amount of godmodding here is sad. You guys cant just advance on his terrority. Just because your not saying what his losses are does not mean what you are doing is not godmoding. He needs a chance to defend himself.


IC:

While what Juntastan has said it a very unsmart move, what the three nations of Daiwiz, Penguin Protection, and East Congaree is pure imperialism. instead of just waiting for a diplomatic soultion they have chosen instead to go in with guns ablazing. We where willing to offer Juntastan a peaceful way of blocking satelites that wander over them but these three nations have disrupted all attempts at communications. That is why I give them three an a deadline. Pull back all your forces and wait for a diplomatic solution to come about. If one does not come then feel free to start again. If you do not heed zackaroth's warning I will have no choice but to intervene and attack all three of your nations forces. Do not turn this war into a blood bath.

Aimless von Strangaild, High leader of Zackaroth


OOC: Also EC do not post your countries rebellion here. Make your own thread.
Penguin Protection
07-07-2008, 01:58
I tried Diplomacy. They didn't listen. Didn't respond. Anyway, My forces are pulling out out of boredom.
Daiwiz
07-07-2008, 02:22
____To all nations currently involved

We are pulling out of Juntastan, for we are not advancing. We currently are taking too many losses, and are not gaining any ground. We shall be pulling out forces out, but will continue to assist those involved by sending resources. We wish for an end to hostilities, but will wait for Juntastan to reply to sent messages. Thank you.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow

OOC: i think junt got bored of the game, and has not checked back. iv pulled my forces out because he does not respond, and so i can't do any fighting. Zackaroth, i wished for a diplomatic solution at first, but i had been forced to respond to his threats of piracy. What would you do if you were threatened by pirates? i did not attack him, nor did i plan to fight, until he used inhuman, chemical warfare. please, in the future, read all the posts. i wont be back on this thread probably. got more interesting things.
East Congaree
07-07-2008, 04:34
((OOC: Once again, I haven't godmodded. My forces haven't advanced, and I haven't gone further than from where the battle was taking at the moment himself as he signed off.))


IC:


To: Zackaroth Deparment of Foreign Affairs


From: The East Congaree Executive Office


Our act is one of self-defense from being mined in international waters, not imperialism. We wish you to know that directly starting a war with East Congaree would be a war with all IFA nations and their dominions. This is not an act of asking for war, just a question regarding why you think this may be imperialism.


East Congaree Freedom Party Chairman and East Congaree President- Reginald Deere
East Congaree
10-07-2008, 08:12
On the seas outside of Juntastan, exhausted forces missed the comfort of foriegn naval support. With the arrival of the new task force, dozens of 1000kg high-explosive submarine-launched missiles were launched at Juntastan's capital. Battle went on the seas, and crews aboard the ships had been re-supplied by the logistics ships who only stayed with the task force for the fear of being assaulted in international waters on a ship home. Regardless, the ships still had a decent amount of supplies inside them, and could keep the crews running for a week or so more. East Congaree submarines and gunboats continued to be sunk, though, with 27 submarines and 10 gunboats being destroyed within an hour of arrival with the older task forces. It was decided that the task forces would begin a slow withdrwal to 65 miles off Juntastan's coast- out of its' range of sovreignty. The task would sit there and see what Juntastan did at that point.
Zinaire
10-07-2008, 08:20
OOC: Why? Juntastan is gone and everyone else left. Why are you still bombarding their coast or whatever?
East Congaree
10-07-2008, 19:40
OOC: We're still attacking him because of our obvious intent- to clear his navy from the waters. I want to know his losses. We'll work out a treaty with him once his navy is destroyed and his airforce is grounded, by lack of resources or by being shot down.
Greywatch
10-07-2008, 19:46
OOC: I thnk what he meant is 'what's the point?' It doesn't seem like Junta actually coming back to this thread.
East Congaree
10-07-2008, 19:58
OOC: Oh, he will. I sense that he's letting his nation grow in numbers as he lets this thread stagnate, then he'll come back and try to lick my forces off his shores.
Greywatch
10-07-2008, 20:03
OOC: Pssh, what's that gonna do? As soon as he posts people are might come back. Plus, your nation is gonna grow in the meantime so it won't matter at all.
Daiwiz
11-07-2008, 18:15
OOC:GW makes a good point. it's why i pulled my troops out, because it was pointless just having guys getting killed without anything happening. he is probably trying to let his nation grow true, but we arre growing as well. i'll send troops back if he comes back here. also this was my first RP so, if i did any godmodding, i didn't realize it. i'm writing a story on these threads lol.
Zackaroth
11-07-2008, 19:15
OOC: You realize most if what you done is godmodding right and that it would perfectly accpectable for him to ignore you right now right?
Greywatch
11-07-2008, 20:46
OOC: Zack, you realize that your constantly saying godmodding without even responding to people's responses, you're really doing nothing more than wasting words? People here have given you reasons for why they aren't, so if you're going to do anything, address those posts.
Zackaroth
11-07-2008, 22:57
OOC: Wait, attacking a person over and over WITHOUT having them respond isn't godmodding? Jee what NS fourm have I been on for the last 4 years.
Greywatch
11-07-2008, 23:04
OOC: I didn't say that, I said look at the posts people have put up and respond directly to them instea of saying godmodding as a whole in order to give yourself more support. Otherwise people will ignore you for ignoring their responses.
Akimonad
12-07-2008, 01:25
OOC: None of this is relevant and the OP's been absent for some time, so I think it's safe to assume that this thread is dead.

Move on with your lives, people.
Greywatch
12-07-2008, 02:27
That's why I haven't posted ICly in this thread for over two or three weeks. This thing died like five days after it was created...
East Congaree
12-07-2008, 04:09
OOC: I'm not withdrawing until my forces are clamoring about his annoying statues an uninhabited buildings (or heaps of shelled pebbles) all over his capital. I won't end an assault until my forces capture all areas under his sovreignty entirely. Right now, i'm just waiting to see what dammage my naval forces off his coast are doing. Zackaroth, I also hold my claim that I wasn't godmodding. I'm not claiming to be on his land or any further than I was when he decided to "stop" posting.
Akimonad
12-07-2008, 04:13
He's not going to RP or, indeed, post.

Find another thread.
East Congaree
12-07-2008, 06:37
He's not going to RP or, indeed, post.

Find another thread.


OOC: You're entitled to believe that, but I still believe otherwise.
Imperial isa
12-07-2008, 07:27
ooc: You're Entitled To Believe That, But I Still Believe Otherwise.

Get Over It ,the Thread Dead Move On
East Congaree
12-07-2008, 20:51
Get Over It ,the Thread Dead Move On


I still believe this thread isn't dead. I'm not going to just let my forces be slaughtered like that and lose 200,000 or so lives without results.
Zackaroth
12-07-2008, 21:08
OOC: You can ignore this thread you know? You don't have to lose all those men. Just pretend it never happened.
Kahanistan
12-07-2008, 21:48
Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Free Republic of Kahanistan

The Government of Kahanistan fails to see the need for military intervention. The Juntastan Ascendacy has clearly gone back into its hidey-hole and is not conducting any breaches of human rights. Just keep your satellites floating over their space until they come into the 21st century and no one needs die in useless warfare. That's what we're doing.

When they get stronger we can worry, but by then their culture should have advanced to the point where most of them don't care what the "powandah" do as long as it doesn't hurt them.

Evan Farrell,
Deputy Under-Minister of Foreign Affairs for International Protocol
Brat and Punk Division
Cascade States
12-07-2008, 22:28
we simply wish to say,

HELL NO ! We are not moving our satelites for you,"
international law says we can have them and so we shall.
Cascade States
12-07-2008, 22:29
we simply wish to say,

HELL NO ! We are not moving our satellites for you,"
international law says we can have them and so we shall.
Imperial isa
14-07-2008, 04:46
I still believe this thread isn't dead. I'm not going to just let my forces be slaughtered like that and lose 200,000 or so lives without results.

what the hell are you talking about the thread dead there for nothing happen no wa,r no battle and no so called slaughtered forces you keep saying you have
East Congaree
14-07-2008, 05:54
what the hell are you talking about the thread dead there for nothing happen no wa,r no battle and no so called slaughtered forces you keep saying you have


OOC: Yes, there has been a war going on. Yes, my forces have been slaughtered. Yes, I have lost 200,000 sailors. Yes, I am still waiting for the results of what has happened thus far in the battle. Need I elaborate?