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Burtilana's Special Forces looking for new quick response vehicles

Burtilana
01-07-2008, 10:57
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
Butilana Special Forces


I, Sam Bartram, the head of the BSF, am requesting from the military constructors of the world to enter a competition to create a new quick response vehicle series to replace our SNATCH Land Rovers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Defender). After several accidents have revealed their vunurability, we decided a new series of jeep is the answer. The vehicles will be used as quick response vehicles, they will regularly be the first in to a hostile zone, and will be used solely by the elite BSF.

The restrictions are loose, and are as follows:

Light Armoured Anti Personnel Jeep
Must be able to carry 4 people (1 driver + 3 passanger)
Must be bullet proof
Must have bullet proof windows
Must be capable of serious off-roading
Must have an anti personnel weapon
Must be able to communicate with other jeeps in the same unit

Light Armoured Anti Armour Jeep
Must be able to carry 3 people (1 driver + 2 passanger)
Must be bullet proof against small arms
Must have bullet proof windows
Must be capable of serious off-roading
Must have an anti armour weapon
Must be able to communicate with other jeeps in the same unit

Light Armoured Anti Aircraft Jeep
Must be able to carry 3 people (1 driver + 2 passanger)
Must be bullet proof against small arms
Must have bullet proof windows
Must be capable of serious off-roading
Must have an anti aircraft weapon
Must be able to communicate with other jeeps in the same unit

Light Armoured Medical Jeep
Must be able to carry 4 people (1 driver + 2 stretchers + 1 medic)
Must be bullet proof against small arms
Must have bullet proof windows
Must be capable of serious off-roading
Must have medical supplies
Must be able to communicate with other jeeps in the same unit

Light Armoured Supply Jeep
Must be able to carry 2 people (1 driver + 1 passanger)
Must be bullet proof against small arms
Must have bullet proof windows
Must be capable of serious off-roading
Must have large area for carrying supplies
Must be able to communicate with other jeeps in the same unit

Light Armoured Radar/Comms Jeep
Must be able to carry 3 people (1 driver + 2 radio operators)
Must be bullet proof against small arms
Must have bullet proof windows
Must be capable of serious off-roading
Must have long range communications
Must provide radar coverage for wide area surrounding the jeep
Must be able to communicate with other jeeps in the same unit

The prize is the contract to build us these vehicles, amounts will be decided later, and $5 Billion in prize money, I thank you in advance for your interest and look foward to seeing the entrants.

(OOC: I see it as once a basic jeep has been built, the others can just simply be modifications.)
Yanitaria
01-07-2008, 11:14
Bullet proof against what? 5.56 NATO? 15mm? Armour and speed are usually mutually exclusive.
Burtilana
01-07-2008, 11:34
Bullet proof against what? 5.56 NATO? 15mm? Armour and speed are usually mutually exclusive.

Entirely upto you, the brief says the requirements are loose, but preferably it can hold of most small arms fire. The speed one was a bit flaky, so I took it out, but i would like it to be as fast as possible for an armoured jeep, it is ment to be for quick response after all.
Lynion
01-07-2008, 12:54
TO: Burtilana
FROM: Kingdom of Lynion, Field Marshall Jian

It has come to my attention you want various kinds of jeeps and vehicles and we can supply you with some of them.

Light Armoured Anti Personnel Jeep

Is seen as a desert/mountainous buggy with:

Bullet Proof Armour Plating
Bullet Proof windows
Wheels designed for 4WD
Able to take four people (1 driver, 1 gunner and two passengers)
Weapons can vary from .50 Cal Machine Gun or anti-armour rocket Luancher
Radio that can go on frequencies that can be picked up by over jeeps.

Total Costs: $800,000

EDIT: I had it way too cheap.
Burtilana
01-07-2008, 16:41
Anymore details?
and how is it so cheap?
Volzgrad
01-07-2008, 16:58
OOC: Does it have to be a jeep specifically? Because my nation uses half-tracks.

CT-89 Anti-Personnel Half-track

Weight: 6.1Tons
Length: 4.8 Meters
Width: 2.1 Meters
Height: 1.75 Meters
Crew: 2 (driver and gunner), can carry 10 passengers

Armor: 15.5mm-20mm (Immune to small arms fire)
Primary Armament: Varies, the standard weapons are 4 mortars
Secondary Armament: 12.7mm Heavy Machine gun
Engine: 3126 Turbo Diesel Engine, 350 hp
Power/Tonne: 19.3 hp/tonne
Suspension: Half Track
Operational Range: 500 km
Speed: 70 km/hour
Burtilana
01-07-2008, 17:17
trucks are too big, though we may aquire some for other purposes, after seeing them in action they proved quite effective.
Crookfur
01-07-2008, 19:28
To: Sam Bartram, BSF
From: Karen Jenkins, Crookfur Arms.
Re: RFP for new quick response vehicles

Dear Sir,

Crookfur Arms would like to present the Scorpion Series of light utility vehicle for your consideration.

Basic details concerning the Scorpion can be found here:

http://z8.invisionfree.com/Crookfur_Arms/index.php?showtopic=16&st=0

As you can see the basic design can easily be modified to fulfil all your requirements and the chassis design can even be expanded to a 6x6 layout should you require extra capacity.

I would be most obliged if you would include the Scorpion in your considerations and please do get in touch if there is anything you would like to ask.

Kind regards

Karen Jenkins
Head of Sales
Crookfur Arms
Burtilana
01-07-2008, 19:40
OOC: I should really reply in full IC lol

IC:
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
Burtilana Special Forces


Just a few questions on your design,
How large are the tires?
How much would the cost of the other versions we require be?
Have these been sold to other nations?
And lastly, Has the design been NSD approved?

thank you

Head of the BSF
High General Sam Bartram
Crookfur
01-07-2008, 20:40
OOC:
Some of the questiosn aren't entirely IC so i'll jsut put it in as OOC for ease:

How large are the tires?
if my pic is to scale (proabably not) they would be about 1.2-1.3m in diameter. IC wise they would the same diameter as the standard Crookfur truck tire but with a smaller"wheel" and a lot more air

How much would the cost of the other versions we require be?
pretty much the same, the AT and AA one would eb the same plsu the cost of your chosen AT or AA missile system, posisbly more if you wanted full on turrets with proepr sensors.
The radar/cosm version would need an addiotnal APU and liekly about $500,000- $1mil of elelctronics

Have these been sold to other nations? A few, I'm simply hopeless at keepign track of orders as I have a bad tendecy to indugle in direct bids and TG sales where i forget to note what i've sold.

And lastly, Has the design been NSD approved? it dates back to the Sarz board and nobody moaned about it then, I would happily repost it to the current NSD and work soem more on the write up.
Brydog
01-07-2008, 21:04
We offer the Model 74. It has a multi-fuel engine, and comes in different versions. The armed version can carry from a 5.56mm LMG to a ATGM, and two mounts for the weapons.


Price: $2,500
Fuel: Bio-diesel, Kerosene, Jet Fuel, Water,Ethanol, Gasoline, and Diesel
Engine: 250hp MFI engine
Seats: depends on version
Top Speed: depends on version
Burtilana
02-07-2008, 09:26
can I have the details of each indivisual version please?
Burtilana
04-07-2008, 16:23
Bump

Any takers?
Lynion
04-07-2008, 16:27
They are so cheap because we have stacks of them and we don't need them anymore.
Daiwiz
04-07-2008, 16:51
We here at TUSSD, are currently producing the Bradley M3A3, and the Bradley M3A0 for our military forces. They are both highly capable of offroading, as they are an APC. The specifications are as follows.

Weight 30.4 tonnes
Length 6.55 m
Width 3.6 m
Height 2.98 m
Crew 3 + 6 (1 commander, 1 gunner, 1 driver, and 6 passengers)
Armor Aluminum 7017
Primary armament 25 mm M242 Chain Gun 900 rounds
TOW Anti-Tank Missile
7 TOW Missiles
Secondary armament 7.62 mm M240C machine gun
2,200 rounds
Engine diesel
600 hp (447 kW)
Power/weight 19.74 hp/tonne
Suspension torsion bar
Operational
range 483 km or 300 mi
Speed 66 km/h or 41mph

The M3A0 is an amphibious vehicle, but unfortunately, we have been required to remove some of the armor. It uses the same principle as the Duplex-Drive tank, as seen in World War two. We can offer these grand fighting vehicles to you, for the mere price of 433,999.99 things. It is quite a deal! You may check how this vehicle looks, by clicking on this link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2/M3_Bradley_Fighting_Vehicle I hope that we can become bussiness partners. We may soon have an amphibious jeep, that will be available for sale. Our current offer is very reasonable.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
Burtilana
04-07-2008, 16:58
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
Burtilana Special Forces


Dear, Graith Dr'klow

This looks a quite impressive vehicle, they due to it being an APC rather than a jeep, it doesn't feet the bill.
Though, for heavier applications, we would like to purchase 200 of the Bradley M3A3s how much would this come to?

Head of the BSF
High General Sam Bartram
The New True Cross
04-07-2008, 17:09
To: Sam Bartram, BSF
From: Mr. Warden CEO Cross Truck Company
We at Cross Trucking company offer a number of vehicles that might be of interest to you. Our website (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543022) provides all the information you need. Might I suggest the M943-08 Bull Elephant for a more armoured vehicle or the M237-07 military model for a smaller faster package.


Sincerely,
CEO Warden
Daiwiz
04-07-2008, 17:10
To:Bertilana government
From: The United Socialist States of Daiwiz

We thank you for choosing to purchase our Bradley APCs. We should have them to you within 5-6 days. They total price comes to 866,799,980 things. We shall give you a discount, however, and so they shall only be 850,000,000things. The money will be well spent. We do suggest, however, that you modify them, so as to make them easier to distinguish. We have had problems with friendly fire because of this. Our design for an amphibious jeep should be up and running with a day. We are currently testing the prototypes now, and although they are of an older design, they work quite well. We shall keep you informed of the progress if you wish. We also have a, small, disposable, but powerful AT weapon design. We are just beginning to produce it. If you are currently interested in the design, please let us know. You will not be dissappointed by any of our weapons. You can wire the money to Daiwizian and MARCOM arms industry. We shall offload them at your nearest port.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow

OOC:5-6 days will be about 3 hours. the amphibious jeep will be ready in 1 hour. We can decide on the pricing.
Burtilana
04-07-2008, 17:34
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
Burtilana Special Forces


To: The United Socialist States of Daiwiz
From: Head of the BSF, High General Sam Bartram

The funds shall be wired right away, please keep us updated on the amphibious jeeps, depending on their abilities, we may aquire some.

Please deliver the APCs to Suddamn Naval Base, as this is the nearest port to our base.


OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
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Burtilana Special Forces


To: CEO Warden
From: Head of the BSF, High General Sam Bartram

I have a question regarding the M943-08 Bull Elephant Monocoque Armored Patrol Vehicle.
Would be possible for our designers and engineers to create the other types of vehicles we require, using the Bull Elephant as a base?
Imbrinium
04-07-2008, 19:06
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To: Burtilana Special Forces Command

From: Artemio Trentino
Overseas sales , Trilon Defense Inc.

Trilon Defense is glad to show your command our line of special response vehicles. Each comes with different specs so which ones you fine to your liking please let us know so we can send the spec for those vehicles.

Thank you,
Artemio Trentino
TDI

This is the link to your Bid from Trilon Defense inc.
http://www.phpbbplanet.com/grimreaper6/viewtopic.php?p=32&mforum=grimreaper6#32
Daiwiz
04-07-2008, 19:22
To: The Burtilana speacial forces commander
From: TUSSD

We currently have the first two shipments completed, and are on their way now. You should have the units within a few hours. The amphibious jeeps are entering production now, and can be outfitted to fill your specs. They do, unfortunatly, lack speed and steering. However, their amphibious ability offsets these problems. I would suggest having a small speacilist force, to use these jeeps, as they will allow you to scout across rivers,inlets and even short distances in the ocean, although it's not recommended. We would also like to bring your attention to the M3A0, which is the amphibious version of the M3A3. It does require less armor, for otherwise it will sink, but it is very useful for assaulting marines, or island hopping. We also have a very nice infantry borne AT weapon. It is a single shot, disposable, should fired, recoiless gun. Its able to penetrate up to 800 mm of average armor, non sloped. It is, admittedly, a single shot weapon but quite useful never the less. The maximum recommended range is 600m, because after that range the warhead will automatically explode, to prevent live munitions on the battlefield. It's also able to be fired from within an enclosed space, without the muzzleblast killing the user. We can give you a constant supply, for a price. If you are interested, please check out our website for it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 . We shall inform you when the rest of the tanks are to be shipped, and when the amphibious jeep is available for purchase.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
Daiwiz
04-07-2008, 22:00
To: Burtilana Speacial Forces chief
From: TUSSD

We currently have 50 of these amphibious jeep we are willing to sell. You can check the specs, and how it looks at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Schwimmwagen . It is an older design, admittedly, but it will work work to your needs. You can include an aluminum top, with a hole to mount a machie gun. The bullt proof glass is up to 1.5 inches thick, and will stop all small arms fire, including weaker armor peircing bullets. We can decide on the pricing together if you wish.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
Crookfur
04-07-2008, 23:41
OOC:
Diawiz: Whilst not wanting to coem over as beign unfreindly I do ahve to point out that selling wiki links is generally frowned upon as it is assumed that all antion sare capable of producing whatever RL equipment they desire. Plus a WW2 Schwimmwagen is hardly a fitting repalcement for a modern landrover.

Now there would be nothing wrong with designing a modernised Schwimmwagen as you seem to be doing but generally it woudl help if you could put up soem figures and values in your proposal
Burtilana
05-07-2008, 00:14
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
Burtilana Special Forces


TO: Artemio Trentino, TDI
FROM: High General Sam Bartram

We thank you for your participance in our competition, after lookngi at your line up, my generals and I were most interested with the SRV30 and the SRV40, could you give us details on these two vehicles? thank you
Burtilana
05-07-2008, 00:24
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of the
Burtilana Special Forces


TO: TUSSD
FROM: High General Sam Bartram

Thank you for your continued wish to work with us, though at the moment it has been decided by my superior, Valdi Thraag, the Defense Minister, that we do not not dedicated amphibious vehicles at present. Though at a future date, we may look to you to see what you have to offer.
We also thank you for the Bradley APCs.
Thrashia
05-07-2008, 00:24
OOC: Sorry to burst in, but Burtilana, check your TGs. And also, when is this competition going to take place; any time soon?
Burtilana
05-07-2008, 00:28
OOC: the comp is on now basically you all post your entrants, after a while il choose a closing date, though Im sure when though, as I am busy in the near future, then I shall choose a winner. Thats how Ive always done it :D
Imbrinium
05-07-2008, 00:48
Designer: Trilon defense Inc.
Manufacturer:Trilon defense Inc.

SRV30
Specifications
Weight combat weight 6200 kg
Length 5.23m
Width 2.22m
Height 2.1m
Crew 1+8

Primary
armament: TDI Overhead Weapon Station
Secondary
armament Spike missile
Engine Water cooled turbo charged 6.5 litre
190hp
Power/weight 31 horsepower per ton
Suspension Helical coil suspension
Operational
range 752 km
Speed 115 km/h (72Mph

SRV40
Manufacturer Trilon Defense Inc.

Produced 2006

Variants SRV 40 I, II, III, IV

Specifications
Weight 4800kg[1]

Length 5.37 m (211 in)
length 3.53 m (139 in) (wheelbase)
Width 2.16 m (85 in)
Height 2.4 m (94 in)
Crew 1+4

Armor
STANAG 4569
Ballistic level 2
Mine level 2a
Primary
armament remote weapon system

Engine Cummins ISBe 5.9L
184 kW (250 hp)
Payload capacity 2200kg (at protection level 2/2a)
Transmission Allison 2500SP

Suspension 4x4 wheeled

Ground clearance .4m
Fuel capacity 180 L (48 US gal/40 imp gal)

Operational
range 650 km (400 mi)
Speed 110 km/h (68 mph)
Burtilana
05-07-2008, 10:47
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


TO: Artemio Trentino, TDI
FROM: High General Sam Bartram

Thank you for the stats, though for the SRV30, no armour was detailed, could you give us information on this?
One more thing, would it be possible for our engineers and mechanics to convert these to suit our needs? i.e. converting to an ambulance and/or a radar jeep
Lynion
05-07-2008, 11:25
are you going to respond to my offer? Ohh yeah I had to edit my original price by the way.
Purnelia
05-07-2008, 15:52
To Burtilana's Special Forces,
Purnelia can offer a basic supply jeep. I say jeep I mean armoured truck.

Conscription Class Supply Truck.

Weight: 5 Tonnes unloaded
Length: 6 Metres
Width: 2.3 Metres
Height: 3.3 Metres

Crew: Min 1 Driver max 2 in cabin. As many soldiers that you can fit in.

Armour: 5mm (Might stop something) (Can upgrade yourself)
Armament: P60 Machine Gun (A state sponsored M60) Couls be fitted with a TOW missile
Top Speed: 60 Mph unloaded and on road.

Price: 50,000 Purns

(Willing to Haggle)
Imbrinium
05-07-2008, 17:41
TO: Artemio Trentino, TDI
FROM: High General Sam Bartram

The armor for the SRV30 is the same for the SRV40. And yes these vehicles can be modified. both models do come with differnent Variants from the factory to meet specs of the buyer or we can add or leave open as much equipment as needed by the host nation to meet there needs.
Daiwiz
05-07-2008, 17:50
____to Burtilan Speacial Forces commander

We have enjoyed doing business with you, and hope to do so again in the future. We have been working on ways to upgrade the afore mentioned jeep. If you wish to learn about the new one, please message us.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
Van Luxemburg
05-07-2008, 18:29
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Dear Sir,

We think that the name Monteluci may sound familiar with you. In case it does not ring a bell, Monteluci is one of the brands of the VLT Automotive Group, one of the founding members of IAMA. Our history goes back more than a century, and we have a lot of esperience with the construction of military vehicles for the Van Luxemburger Arméi, but also several international customers.

In 2007, we introduced the Monteluci M6, a versatile military 4x4 which is now in use by all departments of the Van Luxemburger Arméi, to full satisfaction of the units using it. It's HPVS system makes it extremely capable in offroad situations, and allows the vehicle to drive on with a tyre blow-out. We believe that another strong selling point is the modularity of the 'b' version, and the inclusion of all required modules.

The M6's Remote-controlled weapons station can be equipped with any required weapon, and thus is very suitable for different tasks. There is enough load space available for medical or military supplies. The M6 can easily carry two stretchers, and special versions can even be manufactured to serve as an emergency operation room. The Command and Control version will most likely suit your needs for a Radar/Communications jeep, even though a radar will need to be mounted after construction of the vehicle itself, as this is not a standard part of the Command and Control module.

We have attached a brochure to the Monteluci M6 military 4x4 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536814), and we hope to hear from you soon!

Signed,

Hans Schmidt
Director of Sales,
VLT Automotive Group N.V.
Burtilana
05-07-2008, 21:48
are you going to respond to my offer? Ohh yeah I had to edit my original price by the way.

OOC: hehe sorry, Id noticed the price change, but missed that post.

OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
Burtilana Special Forces


TO: Kingdom of Lynion, Field Marshall Jian
FROM: Sam Bartram, BSF

Would it be possible to know the dimensions of the vehicle?
thank you
Burtilana
05-07-2008, 21:58
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
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Burtilana Special Forces


TO: Artemio Trentino, TDI
FROM: High General Sam Bartram

Thank you for the clarification, These will be two of our serious contenders.


OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
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Burtilana Special Forces


TO: Hans Schmidt, VLT Automotive Group N.V.
FROM: High General Sam Bartram

Thank you for the entrant, obviously we would be interested in the M6b, as this is armoured, and due to it's shape, I guess it can be easily modified to suit our other requirements, right?
Burtilana
05-07-2008, 22:03
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Burtilana Special Forces


TO: Purnelia
FROM: HG Sam Bartram, BSF

We thank you for your interest, and your entrant, but we are looking more for jeeps then trucks. This is because they are generally more suited to the types of situations my boys get into.
Rumanovia
06-07-2008, 00:13
Dear comrades of Burtilana,
our strong socialist motherland, the UNITED SOCIALIST STATES of RUMANOVIA, can provide for you to the construction of a great off-road vehicle. This 4x4 car is strong, durable, simple to repair, and can works in the worst conditions of employment.

We are talking about the SOVRUMAN 1 [Piervij]

http://englishrussia.com/images/more_weird_russian_tuning/52.jpg
In the photo, you can see one of this rumanovian made 4x4 in a swamp during a military exercises of our powerful Workers Red Army.

Here the technical data:

1. Name: SOVRUMAN 1 (original name in Rumanovia is UAZ Pobeda)
2. Manufacturer : socialist state factory in Trudgorod industrial city, in Rumanovia [Mekhanisheszkij Fàbriku Vorùzhnoe Mashìnij "Ulijanov (Lenin)"; onored by twice whit the Socialist Heroism Order]
3. Engine: rumanovian made "ZA RODINU"; 6.6 Litres Turbo Gasoline V8, 310 hp (231 kW) @ 3,000 rpm / 605 lb·ft (820 N·m) @ 1,800 rpm [a great feature of this engine is the ability to work with diesel, kerosene or similar fuels. This is possible, even if the engine works with gasoline, because if they are respected what is necessary to make it work for gasoline and other fuel and are mixed good in the tank, this walk well without problems - all about is explained in the all language manual -] (this engine can works whitout problems at extreme weather temperature: like -30 celsius!)
4. Transmission: full time four-wheel drive; gearbox "Salegorev" whit 6 speed manual transmission; reducer for low gears, and a central transfer case that will be locked;
5. Length: 184.5 inches (4686 mm)
6. Width: 86.5 inches (2197 mm)
7. Height: 83 inches
8. Weight: 2 tons
9. Optionals serial: a compass; double exterior supplementary headlights; a strong winch "Bnov TzT" - powered by the same veichle engine - in the front;
10. Depth Ford : 87 centimeters
11. Minimun Price (for basic model): 28,000 dollars
12. Maximum Price (for all equipped model): 34,300 dollars

The rumanovian made SOVRUMAN 1 can carry 5 people; it's produced whit special anti-bullet and anti-mangetic bombs iron structure; it can be realized whit special armor and weapons (also anti-aircraft). It's one of best 4x4 of all World: it can ride the worst way ever and it never will be broken ad if something will be wrong, it's really simple to repair in few minutes. On the SOVRUMAN 1 is installed a precious and well made system of protected waves for radio communications: this instrument is the a rumanovian made radio "Strela ZSaSZ" but the buyer can also install the communication system that he wants.
Communicate to us if you are interested, dear comrades of Burtilana.

for International Relationship Office of Socialist State Planned Economy,
Valentina S. Durashensku
Burtilana
06-07-2008, 00:14
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To all companies and persons interested or involved,

The competition will close on the 10th of this month (OOC: RL 10th-July) after this date all aplicants will be denied, no matter how good they appear to be, we shall also release the details of the winner during the following days of the competition closure.
Thank you

High General Sam Bartram, BSF
Burtilana
06-07-2008, 00:23
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Burtilana Special Forces


TO: Valentina S. Durashensku
FROM: HG Sam Bartram, BSF

we thank you for your interest, we have a few questions though.

how thick is the bullet proof armour?
What is the base price on the basic model?
what weaponary does it have?
Rumanovia
06-07-2008, 00:35
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Burtilana Special Forces


TO: Valentina S. Durashensku
FROM: HG Sam Bartram, BSF

we thank you for your interest, we have a few questions though.

how thick is the bullet proof armour?
What is the base price on the basic model?
what weaponary does it have?


The bullet proof armour is thick 1,5 centimetre; the basic model costs 28.000 dollars (our strong socialist motherland can produce a lot of products whit low prices) and it's armed with a single pintle-mounted 7.62mm SGMB light machinegun (if you want an anti-aircraft weapon we can provide for it).

for International Relationship Office of Socialist State Planned Economy,
Valentina S. Durashensku
Daiwiz
06-07-2008, 01:04
To: Chief of Burtilana Speacial Forces
From: TUSSD

We have updated our current design for the amphibious jeep, making it thinner, and sturdier. We found that the armor was lacking, and so we increased it to withstand all small arms fire, that we know of. The windshield's bullet proof, up to you normal infantry borne small arms. Any form of squad support weapon can be mounted. The engine has also been suped up, so that it can pull 1/2 ton cargo, or go 106 miles per hour on road. The axle has also been improved, so as to allow increased offroading. The current price is 27,500 things. If you are interested, let us know. We shall also send you two boxes of our new weapon, the PanzerFaust 3T, as a show of our good will.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
Van Luxemburg
06-07-2008, 14:04
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Dear Sir,

Yes, as put forward by our earlier message, the price of all modules are included in the price of an M6b. We also stated that the only thing missing is a radar, but this problem can be solved quite easily.

Hoping to have answered your questions,

Signed,

Hans Schmidt
Director of Sales,
VLT Automotive Group N.V.
SaintB
06-07-2008, 15:13
STW Incorperated would like to submit for you review the SV-4, also known affectionatly to many soldiers as the Panther Car as its engine is said to sound like a roaring panther. The SV-4 Panther car is used in Goldaron as an infantry scout vehicle and rapid response unit and ideal for quick recon in most terrain types. It uses a high strength independent off road suspension and has an all wheel drive option for the most difficult terrain; it is extremely light weight and can easily be righted by its crew in the event of a rollover; if the Panther Car can fit it can usaully navigate the terrain. The Panther Car has three weapon points located behind the driver seat. Standard configuration is one machine gun and two 74 mm rocket racks.
The SV-4 has capacity to carry 1 cubic meter of extra cargo in its cargo area and can hold up to 45 kilograms of extra supplies (ie, cargo, fuel, food, ammunition) without diminishing performance. The SV-4 is lightly armored and can stand up to most small arms fire.

Length: 4.2 meters

Width: 1.9 meters

Wt: 630 Kg (1,389 pounds)

Crew: 3 (Driver, Machine Gunner, Passenger)

Top Speed: 187 km/h (98 Miles Per Hour)

Fuel Efficiency: 810 km (503 miles)

Armament: 12.7 mm Machine Gun, x2 74 mm Rocket Racks (24 rounds)

Armor: Fiberglass shell with various ballistic fibers woven in.

Cost Per Unit: $92,000 USD
Hurtful Thoughts
06-07-2008, 18:31
Tagging with a moped.
Burtilana
06-07-2008, 22:55
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TO: STW Incorperated
FROM: HG Sam Bartram, BSF

Thank you for your interesting design, we shall look in to this as a possible replacement.
Do the rocket racks hold more than one rocket? Also, can the vehicles be modified to suit our other needs (as described in the mass mailed letter.) (OOC: the 1st post)


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TO: Hans Schmidt, VLT Automotive Group N.V.
FROM: HG Sam Bartram, BSF

Thank you, if this were to be the winning entrant, we would wish for our radars to be attached to them, to simplify syncing and repairing etc.


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TO: Valentina S. Durashensku
FROM: HG Sam Bartram, BSF

Thank you for this extra valuable information.


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TO: Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
FROM: HG Sam Bartram, BSF

Could you give a detailed stat block of the new amphibious jeep? to make reading the information clearer, thank you
SaintB
07-07-2008, 01:22
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TO: STW Incorperated
FROM: HG Sam Bartram, BSF

Thank you for your interesting design, we shall look in to this as a possible replacement.
Do the rocket racks hold more than one rocket? Also, can the vehicles be modified to suit our other needs (as described in the mass mailed letter.) (OOC: the 1st post)


The integral rocket racks mounted on the top of the SV-4 each hold up to 12 rockets a piece allowing the vehicle to carry as many as 24 rockets at once. As for modification, the weapon hard points on the SV-4 allow for various weaponry configurations and with the proper engineering it would be possible to add improved armor to the vehicle. We hope that this is sufficient for your needs.
Burtilana
07-07-2008, 10:17
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TO: STW Incorperated
FROM: HG Sam Bartram, BSF

Thank you for the extra information.
Lyras
07-07-2008, 11:53
TO: High General Bartram, Burtilana Special Forces
FROM: Lyran Governmental Trade Department

RE: SF QRV competition

Sir

In accordance with the stated international competition for a special forces quick response vehicle, Lyran Arms hereby submits the LY83 Fox.

Specifications – LY83 Fox Light Multirole Utility Vehicle, Protectorate of Lyras

LY83 Fox
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LY83 Fox with LY64 MMG
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LY83 Fox with LY60 HMG
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LY83 Fox with LY221 Little Shepherd AA system
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Key Data
Crew 1 + 4

Dimensions
Length 4.8m
Height 2m
Width 2m
Weight 5 tonnes
Ground Clearance Variable. Default at 50cm

Performance
Maximum rated speed 140 kph (87.5mph)
Cross Country Speed 55 kph
Speed, 10% Slope 125 kph
Speed, 60% slope 45 kph
Towing capacity 5 tonnes
Range 590 km (efficiency setting)
Suspension Independent double a-arm.

Armament
Weapon Station 2 gunrings for a variety of weapon systems, optional use of remote weapon stations.

Power
Propulsion 8L LY694 multifuel, propane-injected, twin-turbocharged V8 350hp (197kW) diesel-electric.
Transmission Automatic transmission (6 fwd gears, 2 rvse)
Power-to-Weight Ratio 87.5hp/ton

Armour and Protection
Armour Internal modular armour, sacrificial anti-mine segments
NBC Protection SCFM, clean cooled air, LYMkII CBRN overpressure system.





Background
The LY83 Fox Light Multirole Utility Vehicle is a military 4WD designed and built created by the Protectorate of Lyras. Specifically designed as a replacement for the M998 and M1114 HMMMV, it has also supplanted a number of similar vehicles, and assumed a wide variety of combatant and non-combatant roles, within all arms of the Lyran Protectorate Military. In most cases, the LY83 is referred to simply as the “Fox”.
The Fox was designed by the Protectorate Research and Development Commission, in conjunction and spurred on by submissions from Asgarnieu and the Federal Republic of Hamilay, both of whom sought Lyran assistance in the production of a light multirole utility vehicle. The Fox is designed primarily for strategic and tactical mobility with a high level of protection against anti-tank and anti-personnel mines, further featuring modular and adaptable armour protection and low observability design.
In peacekeeping or peace enforcement operations, currently undertaken by heavy armour and infantry fighting vehicles, the Fox provides a lower profile while still providing a high level of crew protection. In high intensity conflicts, the Fox can be configured as a scout, command vehicle, ground surveillance radar carrier, ambulance or weapons platform.

Armament
The can mount up to two lateral grenade launchers. Each launcher, as per Lyran standard, is electronically-fired, and consists of four barrels which can be intermixed with either smoke, fragmentation or chaff grenades. The smoke grenades are capable of shrouding the Fox from visual or thermal detection, and the chaff grenades are utilised as a means of breaking up the vehicle's radar cross-section.
Two gunrings are included integral to the chassis, which can be fitted with any number of weapons systems, including, but not limited to; TOW, Spike or Javelin firepoints, LY60, M2 or KPV heavy machine guns, or MG3, LY64, LY19 or M60 GPMGs. The gunrings are compatible with all standard remote weapons systems, should such an option be sought.

Networking, and sensory system
The Fox uses the Cromwell II fire control and battlespace integration system as the basis of its electronic and information warfare suite. Like the Cromwell before it, the Cromwell II system inputs and actively seeks information from a wide variety of sensory sources, including gun-station datastreams (where applicable including, but not limited to, thermal or daylight gun sights, laser rangefinders, automatic crosswind sensors, pendulum static cant sensors, ammunition type and temperature information, and a high-precision muzzle reference sensors).
Cromwell II system follows on from its Inter-Vehicular Information System (IVIS) conceptual ancestor, and is part of an integrated and adaptive battlespace network that maximises combat lethality, and enables command and control on an unprecedented scale. Information is sourced not only from multiple sources on the individual vehicle or soldier, but from every Cromwell II equipped friendly platform within the battlespace, which provides constant informational updates across a broad spectrum of sources, both known to the operators, and operating below their awareness.

The Cromwell II system is often utilised to compute a firing solution, based upon analysis of the target. This is achieved in less time than it would take the gunner to depress the firing stud or authorise the missile launch. The firing solution that Cromwell II generates ensures a near-perfect hit percent at standard ranges, across all conditions.

However, at the most basic level, the Cromwell II system aims to accelerate engagement cycles and increase operational tempo at all levels of the warfighting system. This acceleration is acheived by providing a mechanism to rapidly gather and distribute targeting information, and rapidly issue directives. Cromwell II's ultra-high speed networking permits error-free, high integrity transmission in a bare fraction of the time required for voice-based transmission, and permits transfer of a wide range of data formats, from a multitude of compatible sources.

The Cromwell II links for the Fox use frequency-agile radios or landline. Over 4,000 frequencies with 20kHz channel spacing are used in the frequency agile radio link. The system architecture provides full duplex data exchange and simultaneous half duplex voice communications.

Well implemented networking, using the Cromwell II system, can contribute to improved effectiveness in other ways as well. Rather than micromanage Cromwell-equipped platforms with close control via a command link tether (such as a radio), networked platforms are given significant autonomy, defined objectives, and allowed to take the initiative in how they meet these objectives. The size, integration and scope of the networked Cromwell II system enables all units across the battlespace to respond faster than their opposition, and this increased tempo generates increased lethality across all levels of the engagement spectrum.

The Cromwell II system can automatically detect and track visible or otherwise located targets, compare them using the data link established with other friendly vehicles to prevent redundant target overkill. Parameters for engagement in this instance are determined by the operational rules of engagement, and while functional, although the system does NOT replace the human operator.

The system, in its entirety, is fully insulated against electronic interference and data-hacking, and all communications and information exchange programs are 512 bit encrypted to ensure maximum network security.

Armour and protection
The armour protection on the Fox is adjustable to threat level by the replacement of armour packs within the vehicle's external skin. The basic add-on armour pack provides ballistic protection against small arms fire and a heavier kit provides protection against ambush including mines.
Fuel and ammunition are located within anti-spalling sub-compartments, with integral blowout panels and kevlar liners, although steltexolites are used, as on the Wolfhound tank, as spalling to protect the internals of the crew compartment, given its greater resilience to armour piercing AT weapons.
The protective concept borrows heavily from the British Panther, and is based on creating the maximum distance and protection between the seat of a mine explosion and the cabin. The wheel stations are located away from the crew cabin so that if a wheel detonates an anti-tank mine, the explosion is vented upwards, leaving the crew cabin relatively undamaged. Further, the bonnet is hinged to the chassis to reduce the shock transmitted to the cabin.
The light alloy rear body is fitted with a lightweight kevlar roof over a supporting frame. The rear body is sacrificial and severs from the cabin in the event of a mine detonation under a rear wheel, again leaving the crew cabin intact.
A number of features have been incorporated into the design to protect the cabin from an explosion of an underbelly mine. The underside of the vehicle is v-shaped, an increasingly common adaptation, and the ground clearance has been maximised (at 50cm, by default) to allow maximum dissipation of the blast, with an eye towards crew protection.
The presence of heavy components under the cabin floor has been minimised as these can be forced through the cabin floor by a mine or IED blast. The lower part of the vehicle has a collapsible triple-layered structure that compressed in the event of an underbelly detonation, absorbing a high percentage of the energy that has not been vented away laterally by the v-form hull.
The cabin further includes anti-mine and anti-blast internal features to reduce residual and secondary explosive effects on the crew. There are two adjustable anti-mine front seats and three foldable anti-mine back seats. The seats are not fixed directly to the floor which thereby avoids direct transmission of any explosive shockwave to the crew.
The cabin is fitted with a high resistance roll bar, a two-piece tiltable windscreen and an optional canvas roof with a dismountable frame, should the impact resistant hardtop not be selected for a given situation. The four crew doors are all fitted with sliding and dismountable windows and are built to withstand the shock wave of an explosion, as well as small arms fire.

Propulsion and mobility
The Fox is powered by a LY694 multifuel propane-injected, inter-cooled twin turbo-charged 8L V8 diesel-electric hybrid, generating 350hp at 2000RPM. This grants a horsepower to ton ratio of 87.5.
The Fox, like the LY219 Ironheart features an electric transmission system (the drive shafts have been replaced by cable and the power from the engines is transferred by cable), which delivers a number of advantages, including volume efficiency, very high fuel efficiency, reduced lifecycle costs, and reduced environmental impacts.
The new electric drive has also greatly improved low observability characteristics in terms of thermal and acoustic signatures as well as low visual and radar signatures. The silencers and the exhaust manifolds are installed within the C-spars of the vehicle chassis and the turbocharger is installed under the engine in order to minimise thermal radiation.
The Fox's engine is unique amongst extant hybrid engines by providing the driver with the option to use the added energy provided by the hybrid systems to give vehicles a power boost, rather than the conventional significantly improved fuel efficiency (compared to non-hybrid, traditional diesel counterparts). The trade-off between added performance and improved fuel efficiency is partly controlled by the software within the hybrid system and partly the result of engine, battery and motor sizing. Lyran Arms has facilitated this user control interface through what is in essence an efficiency/power toggle, similar to those on many commercial ICE vehicles.
The 2m width and 5 ton weight of the vehicle allow the vehicle to be air transported to the area of operations by a number of aircraft including the C160, EH101 (two vehicles), C-27J, C-130J (two vehicles) and on heavy lift helicopters CH-53 and CH-47 (two vehicles), in addition to a very large number of NS-grade transport assets.
The vehicle has a maximum road speed of 140kph (87.5mph) and the range is nearly 600km. The Fox is further able to navigate 0.5m steps and cross side slopes of 30% and gradients of 65%. A removable steel cable winch allows independent recovery should the Fox get into difficulty.
The Fox can ford water obstacles to a depth of 0.85m without preparation and with minimal preparation can ford rivers to a depth of 1.5m. The assisted-air hydraulic braking system allows the vehicle to tow loads of up to 5 tonnes.

Crew Amenities
While a comfortable vehicle, the Fox doesn't possess quite the same degree of it that is featured in several heavier Lyran vehicles, due in part to vastly differing roles.
The Fox does however contain the ubiquitous drink point, providing hot water, cold water, and with two further compartments that can be filled with hot or cold drinks of the crew or unit's choice. As well as being morale boosting, hot water in particular can be of direct military value, with it being used to brew tea or coffee, produce other hot beverages and, most importantly, it is used for dehydrated ration packs common to many armies and armed services. The water itself is stored below the vehicle, and acts as additional protection from mines or IEDs.
As Lyran standard, the Fox's integrated NBC system serves as air conditioning/climate control, allowing for working temperatures easily adjustable to every national or personal need (operating temperature range -40C to 55C).
Seat warmers/coolers are also fitted, to ensure greater comfort and optimise combat endurance and deployability. The seats can also be adjusted, manually or electronically, to ensure optimum comfort and control access for any shape or size.
Foxes are, again as per Lyran standard, equipped with integral high-speed wireless (satellite) broadband internet connections, piggy-backing on the Cromwell II connection, allowing the crew to surf the internet, check their emails, or correspond with family. The provision of insulated external connections allows accompanying dismounted personnel to simply plug in to the side of the vehicle, and then they to can go online.

Export
Export versions are identical to Lyran versions, with most of the Lyran cryptographic and communications equipment being memory erased to prevent compromise. All are, however, still integratable into a single force, should the requirement to synchronise operations on a multinational basis arise. Further modified and/or specific custom versions of the LY83 Fox are available from the Lyran Protectorate, with costs altering as circumstances warrant.
Asgarnieu, Verenberg, TPF, Errikland, Bomble, the Federal Republic of Hamilay and and select other nations are eligible for special dispensation, if they wish to utilise the Fox.

To date, non-Lyran LY83s are numbered in the tens of millions, serving in the armed forces of over seventy countries, making it perhaps the most widely exported military 4x4 in NS history.

Each LY83 currently exports for NS$100,000. Purchases can be made through Lyran Arms (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=541320).
Burtilana
07-07-2008, 16:24
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Thank you for the entry. the write up and stats cover pretty much averything, so we have no further questions at the moment.
Daiwiz
07-07-2008, 16:58
Amphibious jeep
Speed:106 mph on road, 98 mph offroad, or in water
two inche thick axle, to decrease probability of breakage
armor is five cm, able to withstand most, if not all, small arms fire
bullet proof windsheild
free tripod mounted in center, to facilitate a weapon. (ie mg, grenade launcher etc)
removable top, that is also armored. (it is easily taken apart)
can seat five, 2 passengers in back, 2 passengers in front, 1 driver. It is possible to squeeze a gunner in, but not recommended unless needed.
Able to float in waves up to 2 feet
Can carry 2,000 pounds on land, 1,000 pounds is suggested in water
Price: 75,000 (It is quite easily made, and cheap)

If there is anything else you require, please inquire.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
Burtilana
07-07-2008, 19:35
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To: Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
From: HG Sam Bartram, BSF

So as I understand, the jeep is open topped?
Also, thank you for giving the stats more clearly. This seems to quite a capable vehicle.
Daiwiz
07-07-2008, 22:33
To: The Burtilana Speacial Forces

We have attempted to make it so, yes. It is an open top concept, but there are parts that can be easily assembled, to make a roof. With the roof, and siding attached, it creates an airtight chamber, except for the very top of the roof, if done correctly. This way the car can swim through rougher seas.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
Burtilana
07-07-2008, 22:48
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To: Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
From: HG Sam Bartram, BSF

Thank you for the extra information, is the roof parts stored within the vehicle?

OOC: does the speed stat say it does 98mph in the water? that is way too fast, most, as far as I know do like 8-10knots
Daiwiz
07-07-2008, 23:05
To: Burtilana Speacial Forces

Unfortunately, there is not enough trunk space, to facilitate that. We would also like to correct a small error. In the water the speed is 7 knots, not 98 mph. We apologise for any confusion this may have caused, and will include a shipment of our new AT weapon, should you purchase from us, for our mistake.

Kolitburo, Graith Dr'klow
Burtilana
07-07-2008, 23:13
OOC: Does it have a proper name? other then amphibious jeep? just out of curiousity.
Daiwiz
07-07-2008, 23:16
OOC: am working on that forgot to post it. the original name was Schwimwagen. will have to adapt this to my nations strange laguage. any suggestions are helpful. just read our ship names in Juntastan ultimatum, if it's still around.
Burtilana
08-07-2008, 00:11
OOC: I had a quick flick through the thread but couldnt see it, good luck coming up with a name though!
Burtilana
08-07-2008, 00:29
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To all parties involved or otherwise interested

Just a quick reminder that the competition closes in two days. Just though Id let you know so any other entrants can be entered in due time, Thanks

Head of the BSF
High General Sam Bartram
Daiwiz
08-07-2008, 01:24
OOC: are you fine with Swimgrogt?
Burtilana
08-07-2008, 13:48
OOC: its your system, call it what you want lol
Daiwiz
08-07-2008, 18:09
OOC:SwimGrogt it is then :D
Burtilana
08-07-2008, 19:54
bump - Anymore takers? lol
Burtilana
10-07-2008, 09:14
OOC: Competition closes when I get home from work, at 8pm UK time.
Burtilana
10-07-2008, 21:05
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I am sending this telegram to all military manufacturers to inform you all that the competition is now closed.
We have had many many good entrants, and we thank you all. We shall announce the winner in a few days.

Head of the BSF
High General Sam Bartram
Daiwiz
11-07-2008, 18:10
OOC:i suppose this is a bump?
Burtilana
12-07-2008, 00:18
OOC: I have chosen the winner, I have based it on many things, stats, amount of information given, personal preference. I shall do an IC post later on in the day (Im off to bed shortly, work, JOY!)
Daiwiz
12-07-2008, 18:15
OOC:alright then. may the best vehicle win!good luck to all!this is also a bump.
Daiwiz
13-07-2008, 02:07
bump mk2. i will take care of bumping, until someone posts.
Burtilana
14-07-2008, 01:55
OOC: Thanks, bumping wasn't needed lol, no new information, UNTIL NOW!

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Congratulations to all participants, all of the vehicles, though not all fitting our requirements, were good. Though it was a tough choice, we decided on two winners.
First, for most applications, and the main winner, MUVA 17 Scorpion from Crookfur Arms. We all liked the protection it provides, the varieties, and the fact it is fairly similar to our current Land Rovers.
Secondly, to be used in more delicate locations, the M256-08 Ranger from the Cross Trucking Company. We liked the hybrid engine used for quieter operations.
The winners shall receive private telegrams shortly to confirm orders.
Burtilana
14-07-2008, 17:27
bumpy
Daiwiz
14-07-2008, 21:43
OOC: lol alright then. Perhaps, I could sell you a few SwimGrogts? They would be a speacial operations type vehicle/scouting. I dunno, just acting like a true salesman.
Crookfur
14-07-2008, 21:53
From the news pages of CA Today the Crookfur Arms internal newspaper.

>>>
It was today anounced that the Crookfur Arms have proven succesful in thier bid to provide the future quick response vehicle to the Burtilana Special Forces.

Whilst details of the exact order have not yet been made public, Jason and Karen along with the rest of the team at head office and AVD desrve our warm congratulations for managing to bid succesfully against remarkably stiff world class competition.
>>>

OOC:
Consider that an Ackwoledgment/ order approval or what ever you need.
Daiwiz
15-07-2008, 20:09
ker-bump
Burtilana
15-07-2008, 20:13
OOC: Daiwiz, check you TG inbox
Daiwiz
15-07-2008, 20:44
OOC:thank you very much they will be useful, im sure :salute: