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What does everyone else think?

We think you should develop alternate energy sources and give drilling rights away to Santheres.

-- Anonymous message from Santheres

To the U.S.R,

We would be willing to sell you all the oil you could possibly need, for much cheaper than drilling new wells, or researching alternative energies. The choice is clear, you should by from my company.

Signed,
Jimmy James,
The man so nice, they named him twice.
CEO, Owner,
James Petroleum
A division of Jimmy James Industries.

Message from: Mr. Rhinestaff, Supreme Commander of Dephire
Message to: U.S.R.
Carbon-Copied: Santheres

"Your offshore deposits will be taken with interest by my people. I would like to split the deposits 3/5 in favor of Santheres, considering their population excedes that of my own nation. I'm sorry, U.S.R., but I believe your nation to not need such...royalties and pleasantries as off-shore oil. Thank you. Leadership of Santheres, would you like to take co-owndership of the deposits? I'll offer military assistance."

[OOC: ICly, the Greater Guyanan Dominion could not care less due to political doctrine. OOCly, I would recommend developing alternative energy sources...the Union of Southeast Asian Nations, the other nation which I control, would recommend likewise (at least under it's current government).]

Message from: Mr. Rhinestaff, Supreme Commander of Dephire
Message to: U.S.R.
Carbon-Copied: Santheres

"Your offshore deposits will be taken with interest by my people. I would like to split the deposits 3/5 in favor of Santheres, considering their population excedes that of my own nation. I'm sorry, U.S.R., but I believe your nation to not need such...royalties and pleasantries as off-shore oil. Thank you. Leadership of Santheres, would you like to take co-owndership of the deposits? I'll offer military assistance."

From: Santherese Acquisitions Board
To: U.S.R.; Dephire

Santheres would gladly take co-ownership of these deposits. The U.S.R. is still a small nation and can make the most effective use of alternative energy, having much fewer vehicles than either of our two nations. Nations such as ours are too far away from having an ubiquitous use of alternative fuels. You should not allow your nation to become as dependent as so many others on this resource. We will even help in your efforts to install a nuclear power grid.

Dephire, your aid and cooperation is much appreciated. U.S.R., your response is awaited.

Pax tibi,
Executor Nicolo Armando Giarelli VI
Santherese Acquisitions Board

From:The Miltary forces of Emmerican.
To:Mr. Rhinestaff, Supreme Commander of Dephire

We wish to voice our opinion on the situation involving the U.S.R oil reserves, if you wish to take miltary action on which civilain casulaties are inflicated on such a peaceful country we cannot stand idly by as it may be our energy resources which are struck next. We may lose a war which inevitably shall not benefit either side, but we shall lose fighting for the freedom of people which will be opressed.

Yours sincerly,
Defence secretary Jason Longshanks.

CtP Foreign Ministry Press Release:

The Republic noting the current debate of energy security within the United States of RyanBrum would like to offer our economic and technical resources for the development of green energies within the nation of RyanBrum.

OOC - nuclear fusion is the future. Everyone knows that and green energy's like wind or solar are just stopgaps.

Greywatch Response

Do off-shore drilling, get the oil, sell it to other people to make some cash, and use the cash to develope other means of energy; that's using all your resources.

To: Santherese Acquisitions Board
From: Mr. Rhinestaff

It pleases me to hear these things. As of now, I shall be shipping fifty Yamato ships to patrol the supposed area, along with three hundred ships carrying the necessary equipment to build the platforms. My guess is that a few hundred Aegis Cruisers should be necessary if this turns into bloodshed. Nothing we cannot fend.


To:The Miltary forces of Emmerican.
From:Mr. Rhinestaff, Supreme Commander of Dephire

If you think I would melt for your sympathy towards another nation, but here me now. Civilian lives will not be lost over oil. However, if their ships do come within firing range of my fleet, lives will be lost. If YOUR ships come within four hundred miles of my fleet, and the oil that my ally and myself are acquiring, that would be considered an act of war and your country will be severely punished by the allies of my domain. It would be best to know when you've dug yourself too deep in other people's affairs. Thank you and good-day.

To everyone who would threaten my friend RyanBrum.

PULL OUT NOW! He has nearly 16 nation friends that would easily drop what they were doing and demolish you all from either space, land, air or sea. I give fair warning to you as a spokesman for this group. GET OUT NOW! Unless you want us to personally rid the world of your nations.

Ok you're picking on my friend so now you may count yourselves among the dead Dephire and anyone else who has made threats.

Welcome to oblivion! Anyone who tries to take my friends oil is history. We are a Space peoples. But he live on a planet in our control, so BACK OFF!!!:sniper:

OOC:
And a bunch of '08 nations are going to be a match against a bunch of '06 and '05 nations? Heck, even a few '04 nations? Let's see what the Corporate Alliance has to say about this.:rolleyes:

To everyone who would threaten my friend RyanBrum.

PULL OUT NOW! He has nearly 16 nation friends that would easily drop what they were doing and demolish you all from either space, land, air or sea. I give fair warning to you as a spokesman for this group. GET OUT NOW! Unless you want us to personally rid the world of your nations.

Ok you're picking on my friend so now you may count yourselves among the dead Dephire and anyone else who has made threats.

OOC Both of you read the sticks

OOC:

Oh! Are you in CA, or at least affiliated? What are your relations with CA?

You foolish morons! You dare mess with our friend?!! RyanBrum just telegramed all of us and your not going to like the response, ESPECIALLY FROM ME!!!!!:sniper::mp5:

Hah, noobfest!

Great we've got a bunch of bullies here don't we? Well I'll just obliterate all of you!

OOC: Until told differently it looks like puppet wanking.

Hmm. it does appear that you really are picking on our friend's nation. Well I dont like it, but you guys will be defeated.

OOC:
I can't stop laughing at the '08s coming in here saying they'll obliterate the 'bullies'. Um. FYI, I didn't threaten anyone. I just gave fair warning for anyone who wants to take the oil that I sought out. Plain as that. However, if you'd like to heighten aggressions...do so with fair interest in knowing the list of allies I could pull in.

Also, yes. As of earlier this week, I am secretly affiliated with the Corporate Alliance. I've asked for friendship between the CA and my new alliance, Asgard.

OOC: Are my eyes deceiving me? Is Dephire sending 50 Yamato Class Ships!?! Lol guys, the Yamato Class BB's were used in World War II. And guess what, they were sunk by aircraft! Supersonic bombers can turn these ships into scrap metal.... Anti aircraft artillery weapons aboard the Yamato would not even touch the bombers. Lol, RyanBrum, just use bombers...>.>

Hah, noobfest!

OOC: Until told differently it looks like puppet wanking.

ooc shockly done too

Hey hey guys. Cool it! Look Dephire, RyanBrum's nation has been attacked twice regarding oil. We are just his friends, he could still call in the Rouge Brotherhood alliance that has several hundred regions. Get out or I'll get involved too.:rolleyes:

OOC: Are my eyes deceiving me? Is Dephire sending 50 Yamato Class Ships!?! Lol guys, the Yamato Class BB's were used in World War II. And guess what, they were sunk by aircraft! Supersonic bombers can turn these ships into scrap metal.... Anti aircraft artillery weapons aboard the Yamato would not even touch the bombers. Lol, RyanBrum, just use bombers...>.>

OOC:
That's another reason I'm laughing. These 50 Yamato ships are from my Los Mexican Fleet (very very low quality). I'm amazed they are getting so worked up over WWII ships with very big guns. I mean, come on. Oh wait...there are the Aegis Cruisers...but whatever.

OOC:
And a bunch of '08 nations are going to be a match against a bunch of '06 and '05 nations? Heck, even a few '04 nations? Let's see what the Corporate Alliance has to say about this.:rolleyes:


Speaking as an '08 nation, an '08 nation could theoreticaly defeat an '04 nation, if comanded corectly and the guy in charge was a lucky barstard.

Hmm....When I fought RyanBrum, he used Naruto warriors dude...The ANBU if I am mistakened....Lulz, what a coincidence! A 'friend' is named Konoha and Mist....Konoha is a place in Naruto. So either you guys are obsessed with the same hobbies <_< or it's puppet wank....


EDIT: @Deph: xD

I agree with Dephire on that one guys. Come on, though Dephire. My other friends will be on in a few minutes and they won't be happy that I'm being threatened agian. I just asked for someones opinion on an issue I was having. So quit it out!

OOC:
Yes, it's very strange that half of them are 6-million nations. That indicates age of 1 (one) day.

On the other hand, some are older. Strangely though they aren't from the same region... I presume he actually just TGed everyone in NS he knew even a bit. But maybe it's puppetwank, just extremely noobish.


RyanBrum, it's not going to work. There are nations which hold power. Premier league, first league, second league, etc. Many of CA nations and Dephire are first or second league. You and your friends are neither, and of no relevance in major wars. Seek the help of someone from the first league.
And with 243 posts you should know how things work already.

Speaking as an '08 nation, an '08 nation could theoreticaly defeat an '04 nation, if comanded corectly and the guy in charge was a lucky barstard.

OOC:
And are you going to be that '08 nation that could "command" an army about a mere fraction of a nation that is several times your size with mandatory armed service and enough battle hardening experience to sham your own? I'd like to see this happen. If you dare bring up the American Revolution, I will shoot my foot.

I agree with Dephire on that one guys. Come on, though Dephire. My other friends will be on in a few minutes and they won't be happy that I'm being threatened agian. I just asked for someones opinion on an issue I was having. So quit it out!

OOC: You have oil, people want oil, people will take what they want, we want to take your oil. Logical progression outlined for the yet to be colonized or as we call them precolonials.

Hmm....When I fought RyanBrum, he used Naruto warriors dude...The ANBU if I am mistakened....Lulz, what a coincidence! A 'friend' is named Konoha and Mist....Konoha is a place in Naruto. So either you guys are obsessed with the same hobbies <_< or it's puppet wank....


EDIT: @Deph: xD

Nah! We're friends because we have the same intrests. I do have a few other nations but I'm keeping them out of this. Im too honest to attack with multiple nations

I'm impresed he's produced so many pupets and is using them all at once. I'd get confuse if i was posting in a thread with 12 nations at once.

OOC:
Ryan. It was clearly a race to grab your oil before you could. Even then, your opinion as to whether or not to drill on your off-shore deposit was in question for this poll was put into place. I'm sure we as a group can collaborate a 'cleaner' solution to your energy needs. My oil-grabbing ally(ies) have spoken about helping you with nuclear power grids. I can assist by providing the enriched uranium. You just get out of oil...which is a plus because, with you being a rather young nation, if put into a reality phase, you probably would spill 45% of said oil into the water.

Enough I said! Dephire you can have the oil. Its alright, I won't cause any trouble. My friends are very hot blooded and like to get in fights. But no I am not puppeting. All my friends have been on NationStates with me for few hours and they noticed that I telegramed them "Here we go with the oil crisis again!" and they all jumped on.

Get some less noobish friends. They iritate me.

OOC:
Thank you. I'm glad this was..dealt with on a short time-frame.

About how big is this oil deposit of yours anyway?

I wouldn't count that as a victory. A n00b threatened and bullied down. Noobs these days... How doesn't CA get bored of it?

Get some less noobish friends. They iritate me.

Im offended at that. My friends are smart enough to mop the floor with nations 3x their size. I've seen two of them do it! One of them posted. (the Dark Side Elders).

Wow, he moped the floor with a nation in, by my maths (subtract one post for this thread) 6 posts.

I wouldn't count that as a victory. A n00b threatened and bullied down. Noobs these days... How doesn't CA get bored of it?

Hey they haven't backed down yet! I have. Im sorry if those guys offended you. I don't control their actions. So don't say that before they come back and have a (what did you call it? Oh yeah a..) "n00b fest" on you!

Wow, he moped the floor with a nation in, by my maths (subtract one post for this thread) 6 posts.

Isn't that amazing?!

OCC: He really did. In 5 posts he had them pinned up an begging for mercy, no lie! But seriously guys cut it out. I hate arguing with everyone.

OOC:
RyanBrum, size of the oil deposit please?

OOC:
RyanBrum, size of the oil deposit please?

There are three. Each contains around 19 billion barrels.

Hey they haven't backed down yet! I have. Im sorry if those guys offended you. I don't control their actions. So don't say that before they come back and have a (what did you call it? Oh yeah a..) "n00b fest" on you!

Actually I was intending to support you. I'm at war with these oil-grabbers, you see.

Oh my apologies! I would like your assistance of things get bad.

There are three. Each contains around 19 billion barrels.

OOC:
Alright. Let's see..

3 deposits times 19billion barrels equals 57 billion barrels.

My share would be 22.8 billion barrels (before transfering 75% to CA).

After 75% is shipped to the CA, I should acquire 5.7 billion barrels.

If my entire population uses roughly 1 barrel in a day...there goes all of that oil.

Yippie Skippy.

RB:
Well, you've already surrendered.

BTW you've surrendered 8 trillion dollars worth of oil - that money would be enough to defend you through private military contractors for a decade.

OOC: IC post incoming regarding the torpedoing of CA oil rigs.

OOC:
Yes, it's very strange that half of them are 6-million nations. That indicates age of 1 (one) day.

On the other hand, some are older. Strangely though they aren't from the same region... I presume he actually just TGed everyone in NS he knew even a bit. But maybe it's puppetwank, just extremely noobish.


RyanBrum, it's not going to work. There are nations which hold power. Premier league, first league, second league, etc. Many of CA nations and Dephire are first or second league. You and your friends are neither, and of no relevance in major wars. Seek the help of someone from the first league.
And with 243 posts you should know how things work already.

Yeah I know how things work, but they don't. Don't give me the lecture! I didn't even ask them to fight. I just made a comment to them about a situation. BTW you will find that their nations are all FT and wouldn't be even scratched by the MT nations at work here, even if there were thousands of MT nations. Im no pupetting though!

OOC: IC post incoming regarding the torpedoing of CA oil rigs.

OCC: Ha ha! Otagia you really show up when I need you most!

BTW you will find that their nations are all FT and wouldn't be even scratched by the MT nations at work here, even if there were thousands of MT nations.
And their posts would be subsequently ignored by the MT nations here, as about three nations out of the entirety of NS acknowledge the two tech levels interacting...

OCC: Ha ha! Otagia you really show up when I need you most!
Not my fault. They just keep coming before the Sixth actually LEAVES. >.>

OOC: IC post incoming regarding the torpedoing of CA oil rigs.

OOC:

The CA has oil rigs? Where?!
>_>
<_<

The CA has oil rigs? Where?!

OOC: One would presume you do, or at least will, in order to extract said undersea oil. I just prefer waiting for you to actually waste some money before denying you the wells.

And their posts would be subsequently ignored by the MT nations here, as about three nations out of the entirety of NS acknowledge the two tech levels interacting...


Not my fault. They just keep coming before the Sixth actually LEAVES. >.>

OCC: Not to be a jerk. But who says they'll care if the other ignore their posts? I would laugh so hard I'd fall out of my chair if they ignore their own soilders being wiped off the face of the Earth. :p

OOC: One would presume you do, or at least will, in order to extract said undersea oil. I just prefer waiting for you to actually waste some money before denying you the wells.

OOC:
To assume I am a member of the CA would be false on your part, and to fire upon my 'rigs' would declare war on Asgard...

Not that that means anything to you.

However, if RyanBrum could specify the location of the oil deposits, only then will I speak further of whether or not I will actually move in to take the oil.

OCC: Not to be a jerk. But who says they'll care if the other ignore their posts? I would laugh so hard I'd fall out of my chair if they ignore their own soilders being wiped off the face of the Earth. :p
Simply because that's the way freeform RP works, and that there's a nice little button that lets you not have to look at a particular person's posts. FT and MT don't interact. End of story.

OOC: Aren't you aware what "Ignore" is?
The IGNORE happens when you post, for instance, a thing like "My soldiers are entering Vault 10, conquering city after city". Since it's an obvious nonsense, such a post is overlooked just as if you posted "gargbl cthulhv".

OOC:
To assume I am a member of the CA would be false on your part, and to fire upon my 'rigs' would declare war on Asgard...

Not that that means anything to you.

However, if RyanBrum could specify the location of the oil deposits, only then will I speak further of whether or not I will actually move in to take the oil.

OCC: They are on the west shore, about 3 miles out from shore.

ooc: they sometimes do.

OCC: They are on the west shore, about 3 miles out from shore.

OOC:

Wow..hating to be the bearer of bad news, but either way, that is a serious ecosystem hazard. If even a little oil was spilled, you could say "good bye shore!". So with that said, drilling for oil on anyone's part would be highly dangerous.

OCC: Wow this thread was one page about thirty minutes ago LOL

Oh and there is an ignore button!!!? Where, if I can find it this whole oil problem disappears! LOL

OOC:

Wow..hating to be the bearer of bad news, but either way, that is a serious ecosystem hazard. If even a little oil was spilled, you could say "good bye shore!". So with that said, drilling for oil on anyone's part would be highly dangerous.

The reason they are there is because the whole West Side of my nation is oil rich. Thats also why their only that far out, because thats where all the oil fields end!

The reason they are there is because the whole West Side of my nation is oil rich. Thats also why their only that far out, because thats where all the oil fields end!

OOC:
And to think..if there were several hundred foreign ships along the horizon, protecting about 20 oil rigs...it'd look bad..hmm.

OOC:

Wow..hating to be the bearer of bad news, but either way, that is a serious ecosystem hazard. If even a little oil was spilled, you could say "good bye shore!". So with that said, drilling for oil on anyone's part would be highly dangerous.
It would? There's a heck of a lot of oil rigs that are pretty darn close to land. Heck, I've been out to one via jetski in the gulf of Mexico. Mind you, sinking a tanker the wrong way would be dangerous, but simply blowing the rig would be rather simple.

As for not being a member of the CA, the fact that you're giving them most of the oil makes it rather moot. After all, can't let them have more funds to fuel their war effort.

What does CA stand for? I have an idea but I want to know!

What does CA stand for? I have an idea but I want to know!

Corporate Alliance....Join us, young one and feel the powerrrr!

http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491242
The last word in going down.


Oh, and BTW. Dephire, I've asked you there, and will ask here again:
- Are you joining CA?
- If so (or if not), what about a fight?

Corporate Alliance....Join us, young one and feel the powerrrr!

Hey Mandalorians, what is your full nation name? I want to send you a TG.

@RyanBrum: CA = Corporate Alliance

@Otagia: Ah...true...but if you really wanna go all out on what could happen..some may say that if you blow up the rig, somehow the crap would ignite, explode, and you have the largest fuel-bomb going off in the history of..anything. That's if you use some imagination and false engineering...

Well, this certainly expanded in the brief time I was away.

I would just like to note that I am not CA, ADAN, or technically in any way affiliated with either, I simply worked out a deal with Dephire. And I offered help to RB to install a nuclear power grid and I would have provided uranium had Dephire not offered enriched uranium before I could say anything.

I fail to see how this is not a legitimate business deal and blowing up oil rigs would damage my own ability to acquire this oil while I have absolutely no ties to the CA at all. I won't say that I wouldn't if they offered (or not), but I'm too new on the global arena for them to do so, so it doesn't matter if I would or not.

Well, this certainly expanded in the brief time I was away.

I would just like to note that I am not CA, ADAN, or technically in any way affiliated with either, I simply worked out a deal with Dephire. And I offered help to RB to install a nuclear power grid and I would have provided uranium had Dephire not offered enriched uranium before I could say anything.

I fail to see how this is not a legitimate business deal and blowing up oil rigs would damage my own ability to acquire this oil while I have absolutely no ties to the CA at all. I won't say that I wouldn't if they offered (or not), but I'm too new on the global arena for them to do so, so it doesn't matter if I would or not.

You may have all the oil if Dephire doesn't want it

http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491242
The last word in going down.


Oh, and BTW. Dephire, I've asked you there, and will ask here again:
- Are you joining CA?
- If so (or if not), what about a fight?

I left a message on the above link so please go there and read it.

I left a message on the above link so please go there and read it.
It doesn't answer either of the questions. Please. Just reply to the questions.

OOC:
I would like the oil still. It is only 7 trillion dollars worth, as previously mentioned, so I could just buy all of the oil up and save us all the trouble of anything :rolleyes:.

OOC:
I would like the oil still. It is only 7 trillion dollars worth, as previously mentioned, so I could just buy all of the oil up and save us all the trouble of anything :rolleyes:.

Go for it. Im busy watching another nation from my region fight of some really strong guys in the Exploration of the Sol System 2 Thread.

It doesn't answer either of the questions. Please. Just reply to the questions.

What could you possibly mean? I was answering Mandalorians. Annd you asked Dephire those questions!

What could you possibly mean? I was answering Mandalorians. Annd you asked Dephire those questions!
Ah, sorry. Didn't notice, it looked too much like a response.

Either way, JFYI, you're now a legit target.

Rhinestaff sat at his desk, looking over the finances. He contemplated for a while about whether or not the oil would be reasonable to acquire...but he came to a swift decision. Flipping on the communications device, he spoke,

"Hello leadership of RyanBrum,
I've decided to have second thoughts about forcful acquisition of your off-shore deposits, so I'm offering fifteen trillion USD for your deposits. This agreement is forever. If broken, expect a harsh and swift punishment...which usually involves dropping a large amount of porn on your nation. If you could, please send me the account information to wire the money into your bank account(s). We shall speak further then. Thank you for the peace."

Rhinestaff smiled and pushed the "send" button.