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ASoil, a large oil company in the ASoGM, has earlier this year started a vertical algae farm for the purpose of producing algae oil. Finally, production of the oil has reached a stable level at 100,000,000 barrels a year, on a 1,000 acre plot. ASoil intends to increase the size of its algae farm to increase production, but plans for that will come once profits from the sale of algae oil are realized. Therefore, the price of oil per barrel will be $50 USD. If a nation wishes to purchase the entire year's production line of 100,000,000 barrels, they must move quickly to wire ASoil the 5,000,000,000 USD.

The Vanteland was at first interested in purchasing your oil farm, until we saw the price. 100 USD's a barrel is far above market price, and as such this little venture would obviously fail in the free market.

The Vanteland was at first interested in purchasing your oil farm, until we saw the price. 100 USD's a barrel is far above market price, and as such this little venture would obviously fail in the free market.

OOC: Just what is the NS market price? IRL, oil is at over $130/barrel.

OOC: Just what is the NS market price? IRL, oil is at over $130/barrel.

OOC: Somewhere between 30-40, at the lowest. Usually hangs around 50-60.

OOC: After research, price lowered in OP.

...algae oil?? I should blockade you.

...algae oil?? I should blockade you.

The ASoGM would like to know why this would concern you enough to waste time, money, and resources to blockade us? Especially since the ASoGM is large enough to make such a blockade difficult. It would also affect more nations than ours, and foreign businesses inside the ASoGM.

OOC: I'm not going to blockade you, relax. But in all seriousness, how do you get oil from algae?

OOC: I'm not going to blockade you, relax. But in all seriousness, how do you get oil from algae?

OOC: http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/04/01/algae.oil/index.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algae_fuel

Interesting...so biofuel eh? I am going to have to discredit this through a massive propaganda campaign :)

To: ASoil and government of ASoGM
From: Justin Voon, Eite Council Bionics Counselor
Maron Durante, First Class Bioresources Scientist of the Meritocracy
Re: Algae Oil resource Development.

In light of certain statements by other nations and in light of the effect growable oil will have on global stability in the foreseeable future, we would like to offer our full support and resources for the future development of this technology. Though unnecessary for energy production due to our own successes in developing geothermal and tidal power on large scales to meet our own energy needs, we find it unappealing to continue drilling our own relatively meager oil resources for the production of synthetic polymers. To this end, we will purchase 40% of your algae oil harvest and in order to broaden the base of this technology and promote it's future, we would like to negotiate licensing rights for the production of our own algae oil both for our own use and sale(providing royalties to you of course).
We feel this technology is too powerful a stabilizing influence to be allowed to be threatened by anyone and urge you to disseminate not just the oil but the technology to all buyers interested in the benefits of oil producable anywhere can provide.

In addition, we would care share research with you regarding the benefits of algae for genetic modification with an eye toward pharmacology.

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To: ASoil and government of ASoGM

From: Humbert Kevyn
Minister of energy
Kingdom of Imbrinium

We congradulate you and you country on sure a great discovery. The nation of Imbrinium fully supports your action and wishes to invest 10,000,000,000 over the next 5 yrs to first buy a algae farm from Asoil and the other is to further research into bio-fuels. We would also like to see if you would want to make this a joint venture between our two nations. Please contact us with a reply. Thank you.

Humbert Kevyn
Minister of energy
Kingdom of imbrinium

To: ASoil and government of ASoGM
From: Justin Voon, Eite Council Bionics Counselor
Maron Durante, First Class Bioresources Scientist of the Meritocracy
Re: Algae Oil resource Development.

In light of certain statements by other nations and in light of the effect growable oil will have on global stability in the foreseeable future, we would like to offer our full support and resources for the future development of this technology. Though unnecessary for energy production due to our own successes in developing geothermal and tidal power on large scales to meet our own energy needs, we find it unappealing to continue drilling our own relatively meager oil resources for the production of synthetic polymers. To this end, we will purchase 40% of your algae oil harvest and in order to broaden the base of this technology and promote it's future, we would like to negotiate licensing rights for the production of our own algae oil both for our own use and sale(providing royalties to you of course).
We feel this technology is too powerful a stabilizing influence to be allowed to be threatened by anyone and urge you to disseminate not just the oil but the technology to all buyers interested in the benefits of oil producable anywhere can provide.

In addition, we would care share research with you regarding the benefits of algae for genetic modification with an eye toward pharmacology.

TO: Justin Voon, Eite Council Bionics Counselor
Maron Durante, First Class Bioresources Scientist of the Meritocracy
FROM: Donald Bates, Sales Administrator, ASoil
RE: Algae Oil purchase and licensing

The total cost of the oil you wish to purchase comes to $2,000,000,000 USD, and the CEO, Michael Thames has stated that he is agreeable to licensing the technology to you. Please send your licensing proposal to his office so that you and him may work out the details.

To: ASoGM
From: Kingdom of Lynion, King Ranakin
RE: Concern

I send you this telegram with a warning. Be careful about other organisations and nations that are out there that are power hungry for oil. Should worse come to worse, don't be afarid to ask Lynion for aid.

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To: ASoil and government of ASoGM

From: Humbert Kevyn
Minister of energy
Kingdom of Imbrinium

We congradulate you and you country on sure a great discovery. The nation of Imbrinium fully supports your action and wishes to invest 10,000,000,000 over the next 5 yrs to first buy a algae farm from Asoil and the other is to further research into bio-fuels. We would also like to see if you would want to make this a joint venture between our two nations. Please contact us with a reply. Thank you.

Humbert Kevyn
Minister of energy
Kingdom of imbrinium


TO: Humbert Kevyn, Minister of Energy, Kingdom of Imbrinium
FROM: Donald Bates, Sales Administrator, ASoil
RE: Algae Farm investment

The CEO of ASoil, Michael Thames has agreed in principal to your offer of purchasing an Algae Farm for $10,000,000,000 USD over the next 5 years, and feels that it would be in our best interest to work with you to develop this technology further, for better yearly yields. We do ask that any information and technology involved with producing algae oil not be shared with any other nations or companies at this time, however.

To: ASoGM
From: Kingdom of Lynion, King Ranakin
RE: Concern

I send you this telegram with a warning. Be careful about other organisations and nations that are out there that are power hungry for oil. Should worse come to worse, don't be afarid to ask Lynion for aid.

To: Kingdom of Lynion, King Ranakin
From: ASoGM
RE: Concern

This is not a Federal project, but a venture by a private corporation inside the ASoGM. We will however, protect this company's assets if need be, from aggressive outside interference. We also appreciate your offer, although we hope that it isn't needed.

ooc: Assume this is PMT-ish?

ooc: Assume this is PMT-ish?

OOC: No. It's something that's being worked on right now, and should be available within the next few years (whether it's actually utilized is another story).

Be careful about selling oil. I tried and the Mandalorians along with six other nations got involved in a very bloody war over it.

TO: Justin Voon, Eite Council Bionics Counselor
Maron Durante, First Class Bioresources Scientist of the Meritocracy
FROM: Donald Bates, Sales Administrator, ASoil
RE: Algae Oil purchase and licensing

The total cost of the oil you wish to purchase comes to $2,000,000,000 USD, and the CEO, Michael Thames has stated that he is agreeable to licensing the technology to you. Please send your licensing proposal to his office so that you and him may work out the details.

To: Donald Bates, Sales Administrator ASoil
From: Maron Durante, First Class Bioresources Scientist of the Meritocracy
Re: Finalizing sale and licensing

Accounting has approved the release of funds and shipments can begin. Our own Pelican cargo vessels are capable and preliminary paperwork for shipping permission has been submitted to your government. If you prefer alternate shipping methods, that can be discussed.
Negotiations for licensing and manufacture can begin immediately and barring delays, I hope to begin producing our own harvests within three years. I feel that 20% of gross profits from sales or $10 per manufactured barrel is reasonable. In addition, we will include preliminary research regarding other algaculture products including gasoline, hydrogen, pharmaceuticals and nutrition as part of such an agreement. Details and a final agreement will be arranged by our corporate division.

ooc: Assume this is PMT-ish?

ooc: ((Sounds perfectly modern tech to me.))

Be careful about selling oil. I tried and the Mandalorians along with six other nations got involved in a very bloody war over it.

ASoil doesn't believe there's much risk involved. Right now, there is a relatively low production rate of 100 million barrels a year, due to the size of the Algae farm, so a war for the Algae Oil would be more costly than any profit the spoils of war could cover.

To: Donald Bates, Sales Administrator, ASoil

From: Humbert Kevyn, Minister of Energy, Kingdom of Imbrinium

My nation is excited to join in this new promise of energy for both out futures. And will do our part to keep this project from falling into anyone else hands. If there comes a time where your nation or company is threaten by foreign powers over this discovery please call on us and I hope we can build better closer ties between our nations with this join project.

Humbert Kevyn
Minister of Energy
Kingdom of Imbrinium

Be careful about selling oil. I tried and the Mandalorians along with six other nations got involved in a very bloody war over it.

(OOC: To be fair, the Mandalorians said they'd pay and your response was a tad undiplomatic.)

ASoil doesn't believe there's much risk involved. Right now, there is a relatively low production rate of 100 million barrels a year, due to the size of the Algae farm, so a war for the Algae Oil would be more costly than any profit the spoils of war could cover.

In addition, by licensing and marketing the technology, they can eliminate the threat of violence by disseminating the technology and still profit from it. It's win-win for them, us, other nations looking to avoid oil conflict, nations without considerable oil assets and the environmentally conscious.
-Sendham Grine, First Class Political Scientist of the Meritocracy

To: Donald Bates, Sales Administrator ASoil
From: Maron Durante, First Class Bioresources Scientist of the Meritocracy
Re: Finalizing sale and licensing

Accounting has approved the release of funds and shipments can begin. Our own Pelican cargo vessels are capable and preliminary paperwork for shipping permission has been submitted to your government. If you prefer alternate shipping methods, that can be discussed.
Negotiations for licensing and manufacture can begin immediately and barring delays, I hope to begin producing our own harvests within three years. I feel that 20% of gross profits from sales or $10 per manufactured barrel is reasonable. In addition, we will include preliminary research regarding other algaculture products including gasoline, hydrogen, pharmaceuticals and nutrition as part of such an agreement. Details and a final agreement will be arranged by our corporate division.



ooc: ((Sounds perfectly modern tech to me.))

TO: Maron Durante, First Class Bioresources Scientist of the Meritocracy
FROM: Michael Thames, CEO ASoil
RE: Licensing negotiations

The proposal that you have put forth is agreeable to my stockholders and myself, on the condition that you not share any information or technology involved with producing algae oil with any other nation or company at this time. And I have been asked by Administrator Bates to tell you that you are permitted to use your own cargo vessels for transport of the purchased Algae Oil.

OOC: Biodiesel, butanol, ethanol or biogasoline? How much octane and can you produce JP-X fuels?

While Leafanistan is still a net exporter of oil it's entirely reliant on colonial possessions for oil and increasing mainland fuel security is one of our chief military objectives following a 10 year plan to modernize Leafanistan's military.

OOC: Biodiesel, butanol, ethanol or biogasoline? How much octane and can you produce JP-X fuels?

While Leafanistan is still a net exporter of oil it's entirely reliant on colonial possessions for oil and increasing mainland fuel security is one of our chief military objectives following a 10 year plan to modernize Leafanistan's military.

OOC: It's a form of crude oil, which still needs to be processed like fossil fuel crude. The good thing is, it can be processed in the same refineries as fossil fuel crude.

OOC: It's a form of crude oil, which still needs to be processed like fossil fuel crude. The good thing is, it can be processed in the same refineries as fossil fuel crude.

OOC: How in Gods' name did you manage that? I mean seriously it's a feat to replicate crude oil's absolute suckiness.

If that is true and you don't change it later after you realize how horribly stupid it is, then what kind of crude? Light sweet? Heavy?

OOC: No. It's something that's being worked on right now, and should be available within the next few years (whether it's actually utilized is another story).

ooc: Yes, but it's not producible anywhere near as cheaply as $50/barrel in MT as far as I know... A quick googling gives $5-10/kg, which works out to something like $700-$1400/barrel.

(OOC: To be fair, the Mandalorians said they'd pay and your response was a tad undiplomatic.)

OCC: Diplomacy isn't my thing. lol

ooc: Yes, but it's not producible anywhere near as cheaply as $50/barrel in MT as far as I know... A quick googling gives $5-10/kg, which works out to something like $700-$1400/barrel.

OOC: Genetically engineered algae making butanol would probably be the best. Grow it in thin plastic tubes exposed to sunlight using sterile CO2 from regular oil, natural gas and coal power stations would be the most economical solution. And it traps carbon.

OOC: How in Gods' name did you manage that? I mean seriously it's a feat to replicate crude oil's absolute suckiness.

If that is true and you don't change it later after you realize how horribly stupid it is, then what kind of crude? Light sweet? Heavy?

OOC: It's equivalent to light sweet crude.

OOC: Somewhere between 30-40, at the lowest. Usually hangs around 50-60.


OOC: Oil exported via the "Group of five" (ala the largest five private oil exporting companies of Haven) ususally hangs at about $17 USD with little variation unless in the case of region wide war (such as the current debacle involving Doomingsland and Questers), but even in such a case prices rarely approach 30 dollars per barrel.

OOC: It's equivalent to light sweet crude.

OOC: Why not just produce straight up butanol or ethanol instead of somehow making thick long carbon chains and letting sulfur and CO2 contaminate the stuff. Just produce straight up butanol:

Butanol better tolerates water contamination and is less corrosive than ethanol and more suitable for distribution through existing pipelines for gasoline. In blends with diesel or gasoline, butanol is less likely to separate from this fuel than ethanol if the fuel is contaminated with water. There is also a vapor pressure co-blend synergy with butanol and gasoline containing ethanol, which facilitates ethanol blending. This facilitates storage and distribution of blended fuels.

At an 85% mix with regular gasoline there is no need to retrofit engines and you get nearly the same MPG as with gasoline.

OOC: Why not just produce straight up butanol or ethanol instead of somehow making thick long carbon chains and letting sulfur and CO2 contaminate the stuff. Just produce straight up butanol:



At an 85% mix with regular gasoline there is no need to retrofit engines and you get nearly the same MPG as with gasoline.

OOC: The way it's being produced is fine. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

To everyone, no more OOC posts please. If you feel the need for an OOC comment, TG me.

IC:

Imperial Diplomatic Communication
For: Donald Bates, Sales Administrator, ASoil

Her Imperial Majesty Empress Taunja I and several in Parliament have heard a lot about this 'algae oil' business, and following an intensive study we find the benefits seem to outweigh any potential drawbacks. We would like to join the increasing stable of statess purchasing from you. We would also like to talk a little with you about constructing a jointly owned and operated production plant located in the Imperial Federated States.

~ Imperial Diplomatic Representative Charles Goodman

OOC: Oil exported via the "Group of five" (ala the largest five private oil exporting companies of Haven) ususally hangs at about $17 USD with little variation unless in the case of region wide war (such as the current debacle involving Doomingsland and Questers), but even in such a case prices rarely approach 30 dollars per barrel.

How is there any profit being made by selling 17$ barrels????

IC:

Imperial Diplomatic Communication
For: Donald Bates, Sales Administrator, ASoil

Her Imperial Majesty Empress Taunja I and several in Parliament have heard a lot about this 'algae oil' business, and following an intensive study we find the benefits seem to outweigh any potential drawbacks. We would like to join the increasing stable of statess purchasing from you. We would also like to talk a little with you about constructing a jointly owned and operated production plant located in the Imperial Federated States.

~ Imperial Diplomatic Representative Charles Goodman

TO: Charles Goodman, Imperial Diplomatic Representative
FROM: Donald Bates, Sales Administrator, ASoil
RE: Sales and licensing

We currently have a total of 60,000,000 barrels of Algae Oil available for sale. Please state how many barrels you would be interested in purchasing. As to your request to construct a jointly owned and operated algae farm in your nation, you will have to submit your proposal and terms to our CEO, Michael Thames.

How is there any profit being made by selling 17$ barrels????

OOC- By selling vast quantities of it, obviously. The Havenic market alone accounts for some 500 billion people.

/hijack

Official Message from the Allanean Fuel Company

Dear Sir!

As you may or may not know, the Allanean Fuel Company specializes in production of inexpensive alternative fuels, in particular through the process of nuclear-powered thermal depolimerization. We produce 300 billion barrels of oil per year, satisfying around 25% of the Allanean market for petroleum products, however we normally market our oil at the cost of $35-45 per barrel. Would it be possible for us to purchase your wonderful technology, so as to reduce our production costs?

Sincerely yours,
Lyndon Marrou,
CEO, Allanean Fuel Company

Official Message from the Norris Fuel Company

Dear Sir!

Our company specializes in the production of biofuels, and produces – among other things – 60 billion barrels of oil, every year, accounting for about 5% of Allanea's fuel needs. Should we purchase your technology – for about, say, 120 billion dollars over two year – we would be able to increase our market share drastically. Would you say that we can have a deal?

Sincerely yours,
Llewellyn Anton Norris
CEO, Norris Fuel Company

TO: Maron Durante, First Class Bioresources Scientist of the Meritocracy
FROM: Michael Thames, CEO ASoil
RE: Licensing negotiations

The proposal that you have put forth is agreeable to my stockholders and myself, on the condition that you not share any information or technology involved with producing algae oil with any other nation or company at this time. And I have been asked by Administrator Bates to tell you that you are permitted to use your own cargo vessels for transport of the purchased Algae Oil.

To: Michael Thames, CEO ASoil
From: Maron Durante, First Class Bioresources Scientist of the Meritocracy
Re: Agreement

COnsider the agreement finalized and I look forward to a lucrative partnership as these early steps are taken into a new industrial market. The potential for advancement into more specialized products like biogasoline and biohydrogen are enormous.

OOC: How in Gods' name did you manage that? I mean seriously it's a feat to replicate crude oil's absolute suckiness.

If that is true and you don't change it later after you realize how horribly stupid it is, then what kind of crude? Light sweet? Heavy?

OOC:I know he askes us to refrain from the ooc commentary, but would it be okay with you if a modern tech country learns to walk before it learns to run? Hmm? Do you mind? Do you see very many other modern tech countries growing green crude, nevermind biobutanol or biohydrogen? It's called 'step 1'. You may have heard of it.

Official Message from the Allanean Fuel Company

Dear Sir!

As you may or may not know, the Allanean Fuel Company specializes in production of inexpensive alternative fuels, in particular through the process of nuclear-powered thermal depolimerization. We produce 300 billion barrels of oil per year, satisfying around 25% of the Allanean market for petroleum products, however we normally market our oil at the cost of $35-45 per barrel. Would it be possible for us to purchase your wonderful technology, so as to reduce our production costs?

Sincerely yours,
Lyndon Marrou,
CEO, Allanean Fuel Company

Official Message from the Norris Fuel Company

Dear Sir!

Our company specializes in the production of biofuels, and produces – among other things – 60 billion barrels of oil, every year, accounting for about 5% of Allanea's fuel needs. Should we purchase your technology – for about, say, 120 billion dollars over two year – we would be able to increase our market share drastically. Would you say that we can have a deal?

Sincerely yours,
Llewellyn Anton Norris
CEO, Norris Fuel Company

TO: Lyndon Marrou, CEO Allanean Fuel Company
FROM: Michael Thames, CEO ASoil
RE: purchasing technology

My stockholders and I would prefer an arrangement similar to what we have with another nation. Would 20% of gross profits from sales or $10 per domestic barrel using this technology be acceptable to you?

TO: Llewellyn Anton Norris, CEO Allanean Fuel Company
FROM: Michael Thames, CEO ASoil
RE: purchasing technology


While your offer is generous, my stockholders and I would prefer a different arrangement. Would 20% of gross profits from sales or $10 per domestic barrel using this technology be acceptable to you?

To: Michael Thames, CEO ASoil
From: Maron Durante, First Class Bioresources Scientist of the Meritocracy
Re: Agreement

COnsider the agreement finalized and I look forward to a lucrative partnership as these early steps are taken into a new industrial market. The potential for advancement into more specialized products like biogasoline and biohydrogen are enormous.

TO: Maron Durante, First Class Bioresources Scientist of the Meritocracy
FROM: Michael Thames, CEO ASoil
RE: Partnership

We at ASoil are also eager to reap the benefits of this partnership, as it should help to enrich the lives of the citizens of our nations. The fact that this could potentially put a lot of money into the pockets of my stockholders and myself hasn't slipped my mind, either.

ASoil today has announced that it will take some of the money garnered in selling Algae Oil, and use it to increase the size of their Algae Farm. Currently, the farm consists of 1,000 acres of photobioreactors. After purchasing the new land, the Algae Farm will span 5,000 acres. This will mean a yearly production of 500,000,000 barrels of Algae Oil, as compared to the old production number of 100,000,000 barrels.

Also, ASoil still has 60,000,000 barrels of Algae Oil from this current production run.

Bump!

How is there any profit being made by selling 17$ barrels????
[OOC: In Kuwait, oil only costs $2/bbl to produce. The price is mostly RL political instability in oil-producing regions that doesnt exist on NS to nearly the same degree.

GM: Do you have any links about algae oil production costs?]

To: ASoil
From: Maron Durante, First Class Bioresources Scientist of the Meritocracy
Re: Biohydrogen Breakthrough!

Building upon your research and utilizing our vast developmental resources, we have made an important step forward in the isolation, breeding and nutrient control of particular strains of algae that are known to produce hydrogen in controlled circumstances and increased that yield by an order of magnitude. Our yields generate 7% hydrogen gas by respired volume. That is nearly ten times previous attempts and seventy times that produced naturally. In addition, we have promising lines or research regarding further nutrient manipulation and cross-breeding that may produce even higher yields. We estimate that economic viability as a source of hydrogen will require at least 10% to compete with other hydrogen generation technologies and preferably higher for a market breakout.

We are sending our data by secure courier along with references to your own scientific work which provided the key to our achievement. Perhaps in conjunction, we can soon smash the 10% yield benchmark.

To: ASoil
From: Maron Durante, First Class Bioresources Scientist of the Meritocracy
Re: Biohydrogen Breakthrough!

Building upon your research and utilizing our vast developmental resources, we have made an important step forward in the isolation, breeding and nutrient control of particular strains of algae that are known to produce hydrogen in controlled circumstances and increased that yield by an order of magnitude. Our yields generate 7% hydrogen gas by respired volume. That is nearly ten times previous attempts and seventy times that produced naturally. In addition, we have promising lines or research regarding further nutrient manipulation and cross-breeding that may produce even higher yields. We estimate that economic viability as a source of hydrogen will require at least 10% to compete with other hydrogen generation technologies and preferably higher for a market breakout.

We are sending our data by secure courier along with references to your own scientific work which provided the key to our achievement. Perhaps in conjunction, we can soon smash the 10% yield benchmark.

TO: Maron Durante, First Class Bioresources Scientist of the Meritocracy
FROM: Dr. James Merriweather Ph.D. Biochemistry, Ph.D. Organic Chemistry, ASoil
RE: Bio-hydrogen Breakthrough

We look forward to your courier's arrival, and will work in parallel with your scientists to hopefully achieve the numbers we are looking for soon. Any breakthroughs will of course be forwarded to you as quickly as possible.

TO: Maron Durante, First Class Bioresources Scientist of the Meritocracy
FROM: Dr. James Merriweather Ph.D. Biochemistry, Ph.D. Organic Chemistry, ASoil
RE: Bio-hydrogen Breakthrough

We have sustained 11.5% hydrogen gas by respired volume in our latest tests. While we still have to replicate this result to prove it wasn't a fluke, I believe we are on the right track. Of course, once we do replicate the result, we will send a secure courier to you with encrypted copies of the latest data, so that work can be furthered at both laboratories.