Hegemony Council Meeting (Semi-Closed, MT)
Lord Sumguy
29-05-2008, 01:19
OOC: Sorry for the short post, but i ahve already attempted to post this thread twice without success and I dont feel up to making it elaborate again. If you are a non-Hegemony member and wish to be included in this meeting, please TG me for permission and give areason why your nation should have a delegate attend.
You need not RP your delegate's flight arriving, just have them pull up to the entrance of the Hegemony Headquarters.
And Cazelia, no helicopters or military vehicles please.
Hegemony Headquarters, Sumguaia:
Lord Sumguy stood otuside the entrance to the Headquarters of the Hegemony, dressed in an elegant black suit. The afternoon was pleasant and sunny, with a slight breeze, and he was enjoying the good weather. Before him, lining either side of the entrance, were 40 men of the HIDF, standing at attention. A meeting of the Hegemony Council had been called, and they patiently awaited the arrival of the first delegates.
A nice long limo pulled up at the Hegemony Headquarters. President Martin Watson and General Will Riddle stepped out of the car. Six Greal Marines were five paces behind them. Martin was dressed in a black suit, while Will was wearing a military uniform.
New Brittonia
29-05-2008, 03:23
Foreign Minister Nabila Katchab was at the conference. As an observer, she was New Brittonia's main delegate th the assembly.
Vanteland
29-05-2008, 03:44
Tucker Boot was fashionable. Tucker Boot was rich. The result was simple: Tucker Boot made an extravagently opulent entrance.
A plane strafed over the Hegemonic HQ, having been previously cleared by the Sumguyans. As this plane came, it dove sharply towards the ground, releasing its cargo, before swerving dramatically up. In its wake, a metallic egglike object drifted to the ground. It landed gently upon the lawn, as three metalic legs extended out, touching the ground. Slowly, dramatically, a hitherto unknown door opened, and a mist, which was later identified as perfume, sprayed out. Finally, the door descended to the ground, revealing its dual purpose as a staircase.
And down those steps, came a figure clad in traditional Vantanian garb. Sumgayan trumpeteers, paid in advance, began playing a welcoming tune worthy of a monarch. Slowly, this glorious man, equipped with a scepter, crown, and flambouyant Vantanian garb, which was reminiscent of a colonial soldier, marched down the steps, and through the guantlet of trumpeteers. The ceremony ended in applause, as he finally entered the headquarters building.
Immediantly followed, some garbage men picked up the capsule, and sold it for scrap, as according to the Vantanian agreement.
Hegemonic Hedquarters
The sunny skies of Sumguaia were a warm welcome for a new face of the hegemonic delegates. Stepping out of a taxi, this powerful leader, along with a seasoned diplomat, Daniel Frasier, moved up towards the chamber. The king of Zoingo, Ragnald IV, a non-existant figure in the means of alliance politics, was now quite anxious to sit down to the meeting. Roland was unable to arrive at the meeting on accounts of a funeral for family. His majesty, pledging duty to his country, gladly took the position.
"Im glad your majesty, that you are able to come to such a meeting today." Mr. Frasier expressed his mood to the king. "This meeting has been long past due, and in light of recent events, this needs to be brought to the table."
"It is in the need of civic duty..." he smilled as he stepped out, with no long robe, no crown, only the bejewled cross of Paix et diplomatie on the right side of his suit. " Besides," he laughed, " It is nice to get out of the country once in a while."
The two entered the chamber, where for the first time, Ragnald met the most influental leader of the alliance, Lord Sumguy.
"It is a pleasure to meet you Lord Sumguy," the king extended his hand. " My Minister, Roland, has told me many good things about you."
Lord Sumguy
29-05-2008, 11:56
"I assure you, sir, the pleasure is all mine." The Hegemon replied with a charming smile. "The room in which we will be meeting is just inside the building." He noticed with amusment and mild irritation the extravagent entrance of the Vantanian delegate. "Good Lord, and I thought the Cazelians were too dramatic." he said in his native language, extracting smiles from several nearby guards. Upon seeing the Grealian and brittonian delegates, he approached them.
"Mr. Martin, Mr. Riddle, Ms. Katchab, it is a pleasure to have you here. The conference room is just inside the building."
The sound of the helicopter rotors died as the Head of Department for Hegemony Matters stepped from an Alfegan Ministerial transport. Accompanying him were his military and financial attachés, all dressed in black suits with orange ministry badges depicting them to being from the Foreign Ministry.
Crossing over the road to the Hegemony building from the Alfegan Embassy, they showed their paperwork to the guards on the door before entering the building.
New Brittonia
29-05-2008, 23:10
Minister Katchab, dressed in typical business attire, wearing a headscarf, said,
"Thank you for the directions."
She walked over to the conference room.
Mokastana
29-05-2008, 23:19
The Mokan Limo pulled up just as the Hegmon was greeting the guest, the door opened in the back and Charles Villa got out, straightening his suit. Most veterans of Mokastana's wars had never gotten used to suits, even though it had been years since he had seen combat, being a politician was way harder then being a guerrilla. However the Villa's took to it naturally, with some hard work and learning, he had followed in his brother's footsteps and became a very good Foreign minister.
He followed the delegates to the meeting hall...
Calizorinstan
29-05-2008, 23:19
IC:
A tall man walked into the conference room, he was an imposing figure at 6'4 and he was wearing a dark blue dress uniform typical of the officer ranks of the Calizorinstan Air Force. His flat top haircut quickly identified him to all as President John Arnold, leader of Calizorinstan.
President Arnold sat down at the table and he waited for the others to assemble at the table.
Daniel led the king down the hallway and into the conference room, where they sat in their seats patiently.
OOC: Losing my ability to fly in really disables me :P
Two men stepped out of their unarmed Humvee. Four men armed with G36C rifles stayed behind. One of the men was confined to a wheelchair, and the other one has a holster with a .357 revolver clearly showing. The man with the revolver walked up to the Hegemon
"Long time no-see, good friend" Said Ingram, eyeing Martin with a glint of hate and his hand on his revolver
"James, It's the fuckwit Martin Watson, the guy who caused the destrouction of Greal's senate" He said in native Cazatanian
"Ah yes. If this were'nt a diplomatic funtion I'd hit until his eyes bled" He replied
Calizorinstan
30-05-2008, 00:02
IC:
President Arnold walked up to Ingram and said "How do you do Ingram?" He held out his hand and he said "Long, long time no see.."
Lord Sumguy
30-05-2008, 02:08
"Ingram, John, welcome. It is a pleasure to see you both." Lord Sumguy said with a brilliant smile. "I beleive we have enough delegates to begin, if you will follow me." He led them inside the building to a conference room containing a large table. He sat down at the head of the table, and waited for the others to follow suit. Once they were all seated, he spoke:
"As of now, this meeting of the Hegemony Council has begun. I will take the liberty of bringing up the first topic for discussion, as it is rather urgent. I am greatly concerned by the disbandement of the Greal Senate. Mr. Watson, would you mind explaining to my why your governemnt did this?"
Zackaroth
30-05-2008, 02:16
Aimless von Strangaild walked into the room quietly and quickly. Even though he used a cane to walk, he seemed to glide over to an empty seat. He sat down quickly and kept his eyes on Lord Sumguy. This was his first Hegemonymeeting he was attending, so he would rather make a good impression.
A long, shiny black limosine pulled up to the Hegemony Council Chambers. Out came a page, wearing a bright red doorman's uniform. Two his side, in a resting position, was a Glock 17, he made an extra effort that it could be seen so that there wouldn't be any surprises. The doorman stepped aside as he pulled open the door to the limo. First to pile out was Minister of Foreign Affairs Premier Sir Michael Richardson. He boasted an outfit of bright red, blue, golden, and black colours which gave out an air of a kind of royalty. The Grestonian Republic, the government at least, was pushing for a Constitutional Monarchy and was doing everything possible to get it there. They were doing it slowly but they were getting there, they had already thrown around random fancy names like "Sir" and "Lord".
One Sir Michael Richardson moved out of the way a larger man with a traditional black suit, the coat tails hanging to the back of the knees, with a top hat. He was of course one of the first Grestonian presidents, Rikar Woodrick. He was not at all fat but he couldn't be considered thin. They moved into the Council Chambers and each member of the envoy firmly shook the Hegemon's hand.
"Hello sir," each would state as they walked by and quickly found their seatings.
"Ingram, John, welcome. It is a pleasure to see you both." Lord Sumguy said with a brilliant smile. "I beleive we have enough delegates to begin, if you will follow me." He led them inside the building to a conference room containing a large table. He sat down at the head of the table, and waited for the others to follow suit. Once they were all seated, he spoke:
"As of now, this meeting of the Hegemony Council has begun. I will take the liberty of bringing up the first topic for discussion, as it is rather urgent. I am greatly concerned by the disbandement of the Greal Senate. Mr. Watson, would you mind explaining to my why your governemnt did this?"
“I no longer believe a Seante is no longer effective in Greal. I do not see a Congress or Senate in your nation, Lord Sumguy. Yet, I do not protest this.” said Martin. Will sat next to Martin but did not look to happy about it.
Lord Sumguy
30-05-2008, 11:45
“I no longer believe a Seante is no longer effective in Greal. I do not see a Congress or Senate in your nation, Lord Sumguy. Yet, I do not protest this.” said Martin. Will sat next to Martin but did not look to happy about it.
"If you fail to see the existence of a national congress in my nation, Mr. Watson, then I am afraid you must not be looking very hard." Lord Sumguy said, slighlty amused. "We have had one for as long as our nation has existed."*
The smile quickly fell from his face, and he continued. "Now, my dear Mr. Watson, I am afraid that I find your explanation inadequate. What you may see as 'doing away with the ineffective' I see as a direct attack upon the institution of democracy within your nation. I highly recommend that you re-instate the senate of Greal, for while I am Hegemon I will not sit idly by and allow a republic of the Hegemony to come under the rule of a despot."
*the Sumguaian congress generally determines national issues, while the Emperor, who is elected, focuses on international affairs. The congress as the power to overrule any decision of the emperor.
"If you fail to see the existence of a national congress in my nation, Mr. Watson, then I am afraid you must not be looking very hard." Lord Sumguy said, slighlty amused. "We have had one for as long as our nation has existed."*
The smile quickly fell from his face, and he continued. "Now, my dear Mr. Watson, I am afraid that I find your explanation inadequate. What you may see as 'doing away with the ineffective' I see as a direct attack upon the institution of democracy within your nation. I highly recommend that you re-instate the senate of Greal, for while I am Hegemon I will not sit idly by and allow a republic of the Hegemony to come under the rule of a despot."
*the Sumguaian congress generally determines national issues, while the Emperor, who is elected, focuses on international affairs. The congress as the power to overrule any decision of the emperor.
Will Riddle sat uneasily in his chair. He supported Lord Sumguy completely and back Democracy 100%, but he couldn't do anything as a Major General.
"I see no reason, its just another way for new politicians to get rich, and I Lord Sumguy, do not like corruption."
Mokastana
30-05-2008, 17:38
Charles watched as the Greal representative sat uneasy in his chair, trying to dodge the question and the fact that nearly every man at this table wanted some form of congress in Greal.
"Mr. Riddle," Charles paused to clear his throat, "Your people need a say in the government. Call it Parliament, Congress, or Senate. Political power should be distributed, and allow the people a chance to show what they mean. Perhaps with a little work we can minimize your uprising by allowing your people believe that have a say. I am sure a large percent of your people are tired of growing up in a war torn nation. Give them the option of peace."
Calizorinstan
30-05-2008, 17:45
IC:
President Arnold stood tall and firm as he said "Mr. Riddle, I also would highly recommend re-instating a senate. As others have said, it would distribute the political power amongst various offices, so one man did not have all that power. A man cannot take all that power for very long before he is corrupted by it."
Lord Sumguy
30-05-2008, 19:08
Will Riddle sat uneasily in his chair. He supported Lord Sumguy completely and back Democracy 100%, but he couldn't do anything as a Major General.
"I see no reason, its just another way for new politicians to get rich, and I Lord Sumguy, do not like corruption."
"It is better to have corruption than to have tyranny, Mr. Watson. Besides, your government can always limit their salaries." the Hegemon said. "Re-instate the senate of Greal. Also, it would be best if the legeslature of Greal held more power than the President, lest Greal become a dictatorship with the mere facade of democracy."
Neo-Ixania
30-05-2008, 19:12
OOC: Can the Ixanian Empire send a delegate?
Lord Sumguy
30-05-2008, 19:15
OOC: Can the Ixanian Empire send a delegate?
OOC: yes. The Hegemony Council includes all Hegemonic nations. Just say that your delegate ahd arrived at the beggining of the meeting and had been silent until now.
Neo-Ixania
30-05-2008, 19:19
OOC: yes. The Hegemony Council includes all Hegemonic nations. Just say that your delegate ahd arrived at the beggining of the meeting and had been silent until now.
OOC: I will do so later today; as I do not have the time to make a post. Hopefully I can make some new friends for my nation as I take part in this RP here.
A briefcase was unfolded, revealing a two-way video intercom with the Alfegos Senate, sitting a special session for this meeting. As they heard the news of Greal's dissolution of its senate, a murmur spread through the Alfegan senate a few thousand miles away. However, they quickly had a response.
"Representing the senate of Alfegos, we wish to enquire as to what measures the Greali authorities will be taking to curb this corruption and replace them with a democratic government. Or will alliance intervention be necessary to prevent suffering for the people at the hands of a quasi-dictatorship?"
Calizorinstan
30-05-2008, 19:42
President Arnold voiced then a new concern "How can we trust President Watson not to one day declare himself "Dictator for Life" of Greal? I frankly am suspicious of his reluctance to install a senate body. The reason being is, I think he might be thinking of how he can best retain power, without however it being obvious." President Arnold continued "Now, he might be a perfectly fine fellow, I don't know much about him. But, if he should turn.. Well, I don't know but all I can say Mr. Watson, is that it would be a fine idea to adopt a governing body, call it what ever you want, but what you need is a check and balances system."
"It is better to have corruption than to have tyranny, Mr. Watson. Besides, your government can always limit their salaries." the Hegemon said. "Re-instate the senate of Greal. Also, it would be best if the legeslature of Greal held more power than the President, lest Greal become a dictatorship with the mere facade of democracy."
"Well I dissolved the Congress because communists had won a near majority, but then a few other parties backed their side. I will not re-instate the congress until the communists are gone."
Neo-Ixania
30-05-2008, 22:46
Svetlana Sturmer listened to the other delegates voicing their concerns over Mr. Watson's style of rule over the nation of Greal and she did not seem to share their concerns as she came from a nation where absolute monarchy was the norm for centuries. Indeed, Svetlana proudly supported the Ixanian Monarchy which was quite benevolent towards the citizens in terms of civil rights even if it did not really allow much political freedom other than to be able to at least get a voice for their concerns. When she heard the Fegosian delegate's words, she immediately guessed that Ixania would not send soldiers to help establish a democratic government in Greal; it would be hypocritical for a monarchy to help establish a democracy when its own people don't really have too much of a say in government even if most of those people don't seem to want more political freedoms; at least, they say, they have their civil rights. Svetlana decided not to say anything about Greal for now; she really did not know what to say other than perhaps it would take time for Greal to implement democratic reforms or something like that. So she waited....perhaps someone would talk to her after a while. She did not know....all she could do was wait and see.
IC:
President Arnold walked up to Ingram and said "How do you do Ingram?" He held out his hand and he said "Long, long time no see.."
He shook his hand "Good to see you as well" He said, sternly keeping his right hand on his holster
"Ingram, John, welcome. It is a pleasure to see you both." Lord Sumguy said with a brilliant smile. "I beleive we have enough delegates to begin, if you will follow me." He led them inside the building to a conference room containing a large table. He sat down at the head of the table, and waited for the others to follow suit.
Ingram helped Hogart into one of the seats, and then sat himself. He set his cap down on the table. Hogart looked at him
"Keep your weapon close, if Watson tries anything you could, as the kids put it 'blow his chest out of his vest" He whispered in his native language
"I make sure I will, James" Ingram replied
“I no longer believe a Senate is no longer effective in Greal. I do not see a Congress or Senate in your nation, Lord Sumguy. Yet, I do not protest this.” said Martin. Will sat next to Martin but did not look to happy about it.
Ingram looked up at him, drawing out his .357 and setting it down on the table in front of him
"Mr. Watson, when a senate becomes ineffective in a democracy, it is no longer a democracy. For your own sake, I would recommend that you reinstate the senate."
Zackaroth
31-05-2008, 01:42
Aimless looked annoyed. " Ingram, put the gun away. Your not scarying anybody. We have come here to discuss manners like this in a civilized manner, not like some mob thugs. Now on the issue of the senate, Zackaroth itself does not have such thing. We have somewhat of a pusedo-monarchy. The High Leader is accompanied by the High Council. They have the power to overide and impeach the High leader on any descion. The High Council is choosen by the people while the High Leader is only voted on when he has no one to pass the postion through, impeached or killed, or after his 4th year in office. Its confusing I know but atleast the people have a say in what they want.
I suggest if you want these uprising to stop, then keep the senate or congress. Otherwise this will only go on in a endless cycle, and then I'm sure the Hegemon will soon get sick of it and leave you on your own to get torn apart and pillaged by other nations while you fight yourselves. I hope you are smart enough to never let it come to that Mr. Watson" The High Leader concluded. He sat back in his chair, awaiting to see reaction to his speech.
Lord Sumguy
31-05-2008, 03:10
The Hegemon sighed. "Mr. Hasely, you will control yourself and act in a civil manner, or you will be ejected from this meeting." He paused for a moment, then continued:
"I am afraid I have not made myself clear, Mr. Watson, let me rephrase myself: Either you will re-instate the Senate, or I will. At this time, I request the permission of the Council to override the authority of Martin Watson and re-instate the Senate of Greal, through force if neccesary in the form of the Hegemony International Defense Force."
Mokastana
31-05-2008, 03:44
"Mr. Waston, I hope you make the right choice."
With that Charles sent the recording of the discussion from his PDA to the Mokastana Parliament, while he waited he voted yes for Mokan support for the Hegmon.
Neo-Ixania
31-05-2008, 07:06
OOC: I do not know if Ixania should support democratic reforms in Greal....the Empire is an absolute monarchy after all.
The Hegemon sighed. "Mr. Hasely, you will control yourself and act in a civil manner, or you will be ejected from this meeting." He paused for a moment, then continued:
"I am afraid I have not made myself clear, Mr. Watson, let me rephrase myself: Either you will re-instate the Senate, or I will. At this time, I request the permission of the Council to override the authority of Martin Watson and re-instate the Senate of Greal, through force if neccesary in the form of the Hegemony International Defense Force."
"Ingram, you came here to talk, not to start shooting right?"
"Alright, I'll reinstate it." said Martin," You people threatening wars over and over."
After all, he could always just fell the Senate with his puppets and pass whatever he wanted. Even as a dictator.
"Alfegos wishes to ask it's question again to Greal, so that it may know the response to said question."
A briefcase was unfolded, revealing a two-way video intercom with the Alfegos Senate, sitting a special session for this meeting. As they heard the news of Greal's dissolution of its senate, a murmur spread through the Alfegan senate a few thousand miles away. However, they quickly had a response.
"Representing the senate of Alfegos, we wish to enquire as to what measures the Greali authorities will be taking to curb this corruption and replace them with a democratic government. Or will alliance intervention be necessary to prevent suffering for the people at the hands of a quasi-dictatorship?"
OOC: Sorry Alfegos, didn't notice your post.
"Well, I haven't implemented any measures yet, but as soon as this meeting is over, I will answer your questions with more details." said Martin, a little uneasily. Will stayed quiet. He knew what Martin would do.
Lord Sumguy
31-05-2008, 14:59
"Ingram, you came here to talk, not to start shooting right?"
"Alright, I'll reinstate it." said Martin," You people threatening wars over and over."
After all, he could always just fell the Senate with his puppets and pass whatever he wanted. Even as a dictator.
"Good." the Hegemon replied, smiling. "I therefore request of the council that Hegemony agents be sent to Greal to inspect any machines used in the voting process, observe the voting first-hand at voting sites throughout Greal, verify the total ballot count, and ensure that all candidates are given equal oppurtunity to campaign within Greal."
He smiled. "I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, Mr. Watson, but after all, you did disband the Senate, and who is to say that you couldn't attempt to manupulate the process of re-instating it? Also, should senatorial candidates begin conveniently dying, I will hold your government responsible, so I suggest you do all that you can to protect them." He paused momentarily.
"I want to make myself perfectly clear, Martin. While I am Hegemon, the Watson Dynasty shall never rise again."
OOC: I do not know if Ixania should support democratic reforms in Greal....the Empire is an absolute monarchy after all.
OOC: LS is agaisnt the existence of a dictatorship in Greal due to it being both politically and civily autocratic. He wont be trying to force Ixania to democritise, but he wont react well any loss of political freedoms either. So basically if you dont have em, he's not gonna go after you, but if you try to do away with them, he will.
Having Only recently joined the Hegemony The ASD had to scramble to arrive at all to the meeting. As it was the only available representative of sufficient Importance was Owen Hawk Admiral of First fleet and hero of the nation. He had boarded a Fighter Jet aboard the ASDS Issac Brock and Had only just arrived. Entering the meeting quietly Hawk Sat down with His one Marine guard and watched the proceedings
Mokastana
31-05-2008, 18:50
"Good." the Hegemon replied, smiling. "I therefore request of the council that Hegemony agents be sent to Greal to inspect any machines used in the voting process, observe the voting first-hand at voting sites throughout Greal, verify the total ballot count, and ensure that all candidates are given equal oppurtunity to campaign within Greal."
He smiled. "I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, Mr. Watson, but after all, you did disband the Senate, and who is to say that you couldn't attempt to manupulate the process of re-instating it? Also, should senatorial candidates begin conveniently dying, I will hold your government responsible, so I suggest you do all that you can to protect them." He paused momentarily.
"I want to make myself perfectly clear, Martin. While I am Hegemon, the Watson Dynasty shall never rise again."
"Currently Mokastana has two large permanent military installations inside Greal, one holding three divisions inside Sasha and one base outside of Wormer Port with one Ironheart Division. Both have airfields capable of bringing in division size reinforcements. We also have a military police unit that helped with the elections in AHSCA, using our own machines and counting ballots. It is only one Regiment of MPs, but if any units need training on how to ensure fairness in elections we can supply it."
Neo-Ixania
31-05-2008, 20:21
OOC: LS is agaisnt the existence of a dictatorship in Greal due to it being both politically and civily autocratic. He wont be trying to force Ixania to democritise, but he wont react well any loss of political freedoms either. So basically if you dont have em, he's not gonna go after you, but if you try to do away with them, he will.
OOC: Ixania is going to be neutral in this whole affair and Ixanians have some political freedoms but they are still basically under the wing of an absolute monarchy which has been around for centuries. Anywho, Ixania won't interfere with Greal because it is just hypocritical in the view of the Ixanian delegation to complain about Greal having no democracy when their nation does not have the level of democracy the Hegemon and others may be desiring to be seen in Greal.
Premier Andrew da Vincho had stayed quiet at the table of the Kenavtan delegation, occasionally whispering a word or two into his deputy's ear. But then he decided to voice his opinions aloud.
"We support the installment of a Senate or any other type of legislative body in the fine country of Greal."
"Good." the Hegemon replied, smiling. "I therefore request of the council that Hegemony agents be sent to Greal to inspect any machines used in the voting process, observe the voting first-hand at voting sites throughout Greal, verify the total ballot count, and ensure that all candidates are given equal opportunity to campaign within Greal."
He smiled. "I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, Mr. Watson, but after all, you did disband the Senate, and who is to say that you couldn't attempt to manupulate the process of re-instating it? Also, should senatorial candidates begin conveniently dying, I will hold your government responsible, so I suggest you do all that you can to protect them." He paused momentarily.
"I want to make myself perfectly clear, Martin. While I am Hegemon, the Watson Dynasty shall never rise again."
OOC: LS is agaisnt the existence of a dictatorship in Greal due to it being both politically and civily autocratic. He wont be trying to force Ixania to democritise, but he wont react well any loss of political freedoms either. So basically if you dont have em, he's not gonna go after you, but if you try to do away with them, he will.
"Yes, all that shall be done." said Martin, but he wasn't concerned, he had bigger plans.
Vanteland
01-06-2008, 00:18
"Good. Now that that is done with, I have two issues I would like to bring before the Hegemony." said Tucker, who had not cared for the discussions about Greal.
"The first is rather pressing. It seems that our benevolent Hegemon is holding my people captive.
You see, during the Vante-Gholgothic War, we had to evacuate as many people as possible. Thankfully, our allies the Sumguaians were willing to evacuate many Vantanians. With very little capital, and nowhere to go, many Vantanians had to settle in Sumguy itself. The situation has not changed since then. Now, I request that my people, the Vante, be granted the land they have settled upon, and be allowed to join the Free Commonwealth. Hegemon: Let my people go!"
OOC: You still RP as the US, right?
Lord Sumguy
01-06-2008, 00:45
"Good. Now that that is done with, I have two issues I would like to bring before the Hegemony." said Tucker, who had not cared for the discussions about Greal.
"The first is rather pressing. It seems that our benevolent Hegemon is holding my people captive.
You see, during the Vante-Gholgothic War, we had to evacuate as many people as possible. Thankfully, our allies the Sumguaians were willing to evacuate many Vantanians. With very little capital, and nowhere to go, many Vantanians had to settle in Sumguy itself. The situation has not changed since then. Now, I request that my people, the Vante, be granted the land they have settled upon, and be allowed to join the Free Commonwealth. Hegemon: Let my people go!"
OOC: You still RP as the US, right?
"I am afraid that 'squatter's rights' do not extend to sovereign national territory, Mr. Tucker." Lord Sumguy responded. "Should your citizens wihtin the Holy Empire wish to relocate to Vanteland, my government will pay for any transportaion expenses. I am aware that the Abrahamic League also has a standing offer to buy any residences that Vantanian citizens within the Holy Empire wish to sell in order to relocate to Vanteland for 110% of the appraisal price of any such property. However, I will not be surrendering a portion of my nation's mainland for the sake of mere convenience."
OOC: my nation is not based upon any in RL as far as society or history go, but geographically it is indeed shaped like the US, though 150% the size.
Vanteland
01-06-2008, 01:26
"I am afraid that 'squatter's rights' do not extend to sovereign national territory, Mr. Tucker." Lord Sumguy responded. "Should your citizens wihtin the Holy Empire wish to relocate to Vanteland, my government will pay for any transportaion expenses. I am aware that the Abrahamic League also has a standing offer to buy any residences that Vantanian citizens within the Holy Empire wish to sell in order to relocate to Vanteland for 110% of the appraisal price of any such property. However, I will not be surrendering a portion of my nation's mainland for the sake of mere convenience."
OOC: my nation is not based upon any in RL as far as society or history go, but geographically it is indeed shaped like the US, though 150% the size.
"You promised them deliverance, yet there is nowhere for them to go. The Vanteland is small, and there is no room for such large numbers of refugees. Furthermore, they are not even part of the Sumguaian mainland, but on distant islands, (Puerto Rico, US Virgin Isles) and so you would lose little, as the population in most parts is in the nineties for Vantanian percentage. And as a complete, and actual overspend, I am willing to pay fifty billion Universal Standard Dollars, from the reunification fund, for the land. Please, Hegemon, have a heart."
He holstered the Magnum and adjusted the holster, since it was jabbing him in the side a bit before explaining
"Well you see, there are three reasons I brought this weapon. One, I don't trust Mr. Watson, since his psychotic cousin Peter cost me a leg a few months back. Two, my father was killed in a meeting like this and I don't intend to go out like him. Third, weird things tend to happen at Hegemony meeting and memorials, so I thought I'd be prepared" He sat back silent for a moment before Hogart began to speak
"Mr. Watson, I am in full support of Lord Sumguy's ultimatum. Either you do what he says, or you'll find yourself on the receiving end of an airstrike" He said sternly, as Ingram began his support as well
"And Mr. Watson, James and I are dead serious. And we're not stupid either. We know that you dissolved the senate to get yourself more power, much like most other members of your family"
Zackaroth
01-06-2008, 02:47
" Zackaroth is willing to give the Vante people a island to live on. It is a large island, named Kurr island. Zackaroth gained this a year ago and has found no formal use for it. We would willing to give you the island for the fifty Billion USD, which can be payed over the course of a couple years" Aimless spoke up. He was hoping to make a good first impression here by offering land to needy people.
Lord Sumguy
01-06-2008, 16:33
"You promised them deliverance, yet there is nowhere for them to go. The Vanteland is small, and there is no room for such large numbers of refugees. Furthermore, they are not even part of the Sumguaian mainland, but on distant islands, (Puerto Rico, US Virgin Isles) and so you would lose little, as the population in most parts is in the nineties for Vantanian percentage. And as a complete, and actual overspend, I am willing to pay fifty billion Universal Standard Dollars, from the reunification fund, for the land. Please, Hegemon, have a heart."
"Very well." Lord Sumguy said after a moment. "I will cede alll land inhabited solely by Vantanians within my nation's territory for the price five billion Universal Dollars. I will not however, cede land in which Sumguaians currently reside, as I am afraid I have not the domestic power to do so."
"May I make my statement; Greal, although wartorn and significantly destroyed, has quite a benevolent current government. Although the senate is no longer in existance inside Greal, neither is their warring habit."
"Simply what I wish to state is that leave Greal be unless the reinstallement of the Senate is necesary. My definition of necessary in this case would be Mr. Watson declaring war on allies and innocents and comming genocides and such."
Michael Richardson spoke quickly but clearly so the rest of the Hegemony Council could understand. He was quite nervous for the past two governments held ill faith towards the Hegemony.
"Seeing as people are working at the Greal situtation there is one from my hinderland prying at me. Two as a matter of fact. The Imperial Republic was banned from this alliance during strikes upon Ixanian land but what I must bring up from that is the fact that it was not the Imperial Republic doing it.
As you can see, the attacks were being made from troops deployed from Belgisdam Europa. By law any raw land for the first six months must be ruled by the highest military official in the area. In this case that official was a Colonel Nathan Cersiscal.
Nathan was stripped of his rank and booted from this colony. So I request that ill will bye the Hegemon and others be retracted.
For if it was not for the real Grestonian Republic interfearing Ixanian Russia would be Ixanian no more."
Lord Sumguy
01-06-2008, 18:36
"May I make my statement; Greal, although wartorn and significantly destroyed, has quite a benevolent current government. Although the senate is no longer in existance inside Greal, neither is their warring habit."
"Simply what I wish to state is that leave Greal be unless the reinstallement of the Senate is necesary. My definition of necessary in this case would be Mr. Watson declaring war on allies and innocents and comming genocides and such."
Michael Richardson spoke quickly but clearly so the rest of the Hegemony Council could understand. He was quite nervous for the past two governments held ill faith towards the Hegemony.
"Seeing as people are working at the Greal situtation there is one from my hinderland prying at me. Two as a matter of fact. The Imperial Republic was banned from this alliance during strikes upon Ixanian land but what I must bring up from that is the fact that it was not the Imperial Republic doing it.
As you can see, the attacks were being made from troops deployed from Belgisdam Europa. By law any raw land for the first six months must be ruled by the highest military official in the area. In this case that official was a Colonel Nathan Cersiscal.
Nathan was stripped of his rank and booted from this colony. So I request that ill will bye the Hegemon and others be retracted.
For if it was not for the real Grestonian Republic interfearing Ixanian Russia would be Ixanian no more."
"I do not wish ill upon the people of any nation, Mr. Richardson, that would be contrary to my goal as Hegemon. The re-entry of the nation of Greston will be voted upon should a council member wish to make a motion to such an effect. Is there any who wish to do so?"
The Alfegan representatives stiffened as they heard Greston's plea: they had been one of the potential fighting forces in that region, and knew of what they had intended to do.
"We for one will not support the Greston attempt to re-enter: even if the area was under command of a military commander, that does not excuse the home nation. For one, you sent resources from homeland Greston to the potential frontline, thus supporting this tearaway general. That is why we do not think they should return to this alliance."
The Alfegan representatives stiffened as they heard Greston's plea: they had been one of the potential fighting forces in that region, and knew of what they had intended to do.
"We for one will not support the Greston attempt to re-enter: even if the area was under command of a military commander, that does not excuse the home nation. For one, you sent resources from homeland Greston to the potential frontline, thus supporting this tearaway general. That is why we do not think they should return to this alliance."
"On the contrary sir, we had sent resources from our hinderland to stabilize our two claims, not to war with neighboring allies. I point out to you that in no way did the Grestonian homeland and the presidency at that time take part in that armed conflict, unless you count stopping the massed destruction of entire Coalitions."
"So what was the threat from the Greston forces in the theatre to us about calling in a large naval fleet including multiple carriers for strikes to Ixanian-Russia about? Did the homeland only intervene when it realised it was outnumbered considerably by other nations supporting Neo-Ixania?"
"So what was the threat from the Greston forces in the theatre to us about calling in a large naval fleet including multiple carriers for strikes to Ixanian-Russia about? Did the homeland only intervene when it realised it was outnumbered considerably by other nations supporting Neo-Ixania?"
"And did the Alfegosians intevene when they noticed that 'hey maybe we can stake a claim if we jump in'? No, sir, where did it say that a massive deployedment from the homeland would be sent?"
Mr. Richardson wipped out a peice of paper and held it up in the air so all, especially the Alfegosians, could see.
"I have the original contex of our presiden't statement in my hand! It reads and I qoute 'To Feild Commander Colonel Nathan Cersiscal of Belstum Europia,
Dear sir you you want to be ejected of your rank! I wanted simply Britain and we have that but did you listen to any of that? No! Now half of the active world hates us, we have been banned from the Hegemony and now we have a large and growing list of enemies. Stand down now or you shall be executed.
President and Brigader John Batther' end of qoute.
Mister Batther clearly stated that he disagreed with the war Mr. Cersiscal dragged us into. None of the messages were directed towards him and nor were any messages from the Mandalore or Nathan Cersiscal. He was completely left out of the loop, as was the rest of Greston.
Our ex president did not have full understanding of the situtation until it got to the point of overflow. Do you have any more nonsense to spew now, sir?"
Lord Sumguy
01-06-2008, 19:49
"I would remind the delegate of Greston that he is an observer in this meeting, and would advise that he remain civil when addressing members of the council, lest the need arise for him to be escorted out of the building." The Hegemon said, taking a sip of water from a glass. "I am also hesitant to give my support to the re-entry of Greston into the Hegemony. The Grestonian government has been accepted twice, and ejected twice, from this aliance, both times it's military going so far as to threaten forceful action against the Hegemony, and once attacking my nation specifically. However, I realize that as the Hegemon, having made the decision to eject Greston both times myself, I realize that though I may try to be objective upon this matter, I may be influenced by personal bias regarding the reliability of Greston's officials, and therefore I shall abstain from such a vote."
He paused for a moment, before speaking again. "I would also remind all delegates that an agreement regarding the Senate of Greal has been reached, and that there is no need for further discusssion on the matter."
Neo-Ixania
01-06-2008, 20:05
For if it was not for the real Grestonian Republic interfearing Ixanian Russia would be Ixanian no more."
"So what was the threat from the Greston forces in the theatre to us about calling in a large naval fleet including multiple carriers for strikes to Ixanian-Russia about? Did the homeland only intervene when it realised it was outnumbered considerably by other nations supporting Neo-Ixania?"
"On the contrary sir, we had sent resources from our hinderland to stabilize our two claims, not to war with neighboring allies. I point out to you that in no way did the Grestonian homeland and the presidency at that time take part in that armed conflict, unless you count stopping the massed destruction of entire Coalitions."
OOC: Finally...something for me to make a post about.
The Ixanian delegation stiffened a little when they heard those words from the Grestonian delegation. The war over Ixanian Russia which had been avoided was still fresh in some Ixanians' minds and it made some people advocate some sort of militarism or at least a strengthening of the military. Svetlana Sturmer did not reply to the comments of the other delegations but instead continued to listen to the debate about Ixanian Russia.
Vanteland
01-06-2008, 20:23
"Very well." Lord Sumguy said after a moment. "I will cede alll land inhabited solely by Vantanians within my nation's territory for the price five billion Universal Dollars. I will not however, cede land in which Sumguaians currently reside, as I am afraid I have not the domestic power to do so."
"I'm glad we could come to this agreement. The money will be wired to your nation post-haste. Meanwhile, there still remains one issue that I feel the Hegemony has inadequately covered: the Economy.
At present, there is but a single clause in the Charter concerning the economy, which guarantees free trade. However, I have plans for the Hegemony, concerning the economic revitalization of its memberstates."
At this, Tucker passed out pamphlets from his briefcase, entitled "THE BOOT PLAN". The whole thing was several pages thick, and in a rather small font size. Still, it was legible for most, except the old, senile men like Lord Sumguy.
"My plan would bring a new dawn for the Hegemony. The creation of the Hegemark to encourage trade between our nations, the Hegemonic Grand Bank to facilitate loans to memberstates and needy nations, the Hegemonic Stock Exchange to bond all the stock exchanges of the Hegemonic nation into one. Plus, with revenue from the Grand Bank, those deplorable taxes on our nations can be reduced, if not eliminated. Of course, this is only a taste of what is to come under the Boot Plan.
"I would remind the delegate of Greston that he is an observer in this meeting, and would advise that he remain civil when addressing members of the council, lest the need arise for him to be escorted out of the building." The Hegemon said, taking a sip of water from a glass. "I am also hesitant to give my support to the re-entry of Greston into the Hegemony. The Grestonian government has been accepted twice, and ejected twice, from this aliance, both times it's military going so far as to threaten forceful action against the Hegemony, and once attacking my nation specifically. However, I realize that as the Hegemon, having made the decision to eject Greston both times myself, I realize that though I may try to be objective upon this matter, I may be influenced by personal bias regarding the reliability of Greston's officials, and therefore I shall abstain from such a vote."
Mr. Richardson gently took off his reading glasses and spoke once again.
"Mr. Hegemon must I give you a lesson in Grestonian history? The first occasion that the Grestonian Republic joined the Hegemony and left was on our president's accord and not of your own. We have been a member two times now and only once have we been ejected.
Now you say we have made hostilities upon the Hegemony, you see, there was no proof and you men took it upon yourselfs to blame it on us. We went along with it seeing that we were already labelled to be evil after we supposedly bombed Calizorinstan.
Now the bombing of Calizorinstan, although we took the blame, was not committed by Grestonians but by Londinions. They reveiled that secret to us not to long ago.
You ejected us once and that was because of many miscommunications so please can you rephrase your wording."
"Of course you won't want to admit such an act, would you delegates of Greston? And thankyou for reminding me on that point: the Invasion of Ixanian Britain. You had land there, but then you became greedy and decided to take some more. The whole of Britain. And before you come out with your crap about them seceding it peacefully, they only did so under military pressure. So still feeling so innocent?"
Lord Sumguy
01-06-2008, 22:37
Mr. Richardson gently took off his reading glasses and spoke once again.
"Mr. Hegemon must I give you a lesson in Grestonian history? The first occasion that the Grestonian Republic joined the Hegemony and left was on our president's accord and not of your own. We have been a member two times now and only once have we been ejected.
Now you say we have made hostilities upon the Hegemony, you see, there was no proof and you men took it upon yourselfs to blame it on us. We went along with it seeing that we were already labelled to be evil after we supposedly bombed Calizorinstan.
Now the bombing of Calizorinstan, although we took the blame, was not committed by Grestonians but by Londinions. They reveiled that secret to us not to long ago.
You ejected us once and that was because of many miscommunications so please can you rephrase your wording."
"I apologize for my inaccuracy regarding the number of times greston was ejected from the Hegemony. It is of little consequence though, as your nation would have been ejected had it not left the Hegemony of it's own will first." Lord Sumguy replied. "As for hostilities, I never said that Greston had engaged in any the Hegemony, you were the first to bring up the idea that Greston had actually attacked us. You are incorrect as to us unjustly blaming your nation as well, for we suspected the nation of British Londinium until Greston claimed responsibility for the bombings. As to your claim that it was indeed the Londinians, thet makes little difference, as Greston simultaneously to claiming responsibility threatened the Hegemony with further attacks and a war."
"Of course you won't want to admit such an act, would you delegates of Greston? And thankyou for reminding me on that point: the Invasion of Ixanian Britain. You had land there, but then you became greedy and decided to take some more. The whole of Britain. And before you come out with your crap about them seceding it peacefully, they only did so under military pressure. So still feeling so innocent?"
"Actually yes mate, for it was given to us peacefully. Now my dear friend pull your head out of your ass and look around you, understand everything you misinterpreted while you were under there. We requested Ixanian Britain for the fact it was one we originally tried to colonize before we found out they had staked it and it is also home to the main culture of Greston as well as the first Grestonians. So military pressure is what you blame it on? What about the military pressure you put upon the nations of Maldorians, Leastah, and the few Grestonians over there? Nathan had the idea to quit quite some time before he did but gun jumping morons, Alfegos as one, wouldn't let up making it impossible to do so even if they wished to."
Michael was calm and speaking as quietly as he could but so the rest of the Chamber could hear. He turned to the Hegemon again and continued with what he was saying before.
"Which is what I am getting at sir. If it was not for Mr. Check going slightly wrong mentally we would not have been ejected at all. The first time we wouldn't have been ejected either because the first time we didn't do anything but quit and then quickly ask for reentry. If I remember correctly the reason we quited was because Mr. Check wanted to join the CA. Alot has changed since Mr. Check was impeached but you men were still stuck in the clouds thinking how horrible the last government was to notice the new one."
Lord Sumguy
02-06-2008, 04:04
"Actually yes mate, for it was given to us peacefully. Now my dear friend pull your head out of your ass and look around you, understand everything you misinterpreted while you were under there. We requested Ixanian Britain for the fact it was one we originally tried to colonize before we found out they had staked it and it is also home to the main culture of Greston as well as the first Grestonians. So military pressure is what you blame it on? What about the military pressure you put upon the nations of Maldorians, Leastah, and the few Grestonians over there? Nathan had the idea to quit quite some time before he did but gun jumping morons, Alfegos as one, wouldn't let up making it impossible to do so even if they wished to."
Michael was calm and speaking as quietly as he could but so the rest of the Chamber could hear. He turned to the Hegemon again and continued with what he was saying before.
"Which is what I am getting at sir. If it was not for Mr. Check going slightly wrong mentally we would not have been ejected at all. The first time we wouldn't have been ejected either because the first time we didn't do anything but quit and then quickly ask for reentry. If I remember correctly the reason we quited was because Mr. Check wanted to join the CA. Alot has changed since Mr. Check was impeached but you men were still stuck in the clouds thinking how horrible the last government was to notice the new one."
"I hold no grudge agaisnt the nation of Greston, Mr. Richardson." Lord Sugmuy replied, looking directly at Richardson as he spoke. "I am merely stating that I am hesitant to grant Greston admission into the Hegemony once again, for our past relationship cannot eb ignored, and the nation of Greston in it's previous membership seemed to see fit to go ignore my authority as Hegemon, it's own obligations as a member of the Hegemony, and the rules set in place by the Hegemony charter and act in a manner entirely contrary to the interests and positions of this alliance. Wether that has changed I do not know. I have given the nation of Greston the benifit of the doubt upon such a matter once before, and was forced to expel Greston from the Hegemony. Thus, I hope you shall forgive me if I am not eager to give your nation yet another chance. As I said before, I will abstain from any vote regarding the membership of Greston in the Hegemony."
He holstered the Magnum and adjusted the holster, since it was jabbing him in the side a bit before explaining
"Well you see, there are three reasons I brought this weapon. One, I don't trust Mr. Watson, since his psychotic cousin Peter cost me a leg a few months back. Two, my father was killed in a meeting like this and I don't intend to go out like him. Third, weird things tend to happen at Hegemony meeting and memorials, so I thought I'd be prepared" He sat back silent for a moment before Hogart began to speak
"Mr. Watson, I am in full support of Lord Sumguy's ultimatum. Either you do what he says, or you'll find yourself on the receiving end of an airstrike" He said sternly, as Ingram began his support as well
"And Mr. Watson, James and I are dead serious. And we're not stupid either. We know that you dissolved the senate to get yourself more power, much like most other members of your family"
"You know Ingram, I always wondered why you married my cousin when she was a ruler of a ruthless Dictatorship."said Martin.
Calizorinstan
03-06-2008, 01:43
IC:
President Arnold looked at Martin seriously and he said "What's to stop Martin here from filling up the Senate with his puppets and having them control it? It needs to be a fair election, or else!" He then said solemnly "Else it becomes into Sic Semper Tyrannis!" He said "I know a crazed man said this, but if Martin does do it, I will say it to him. Unlike Booth, I am not planning to assassinate anybody, and as such will say it quite truthfully. My nation, has not had a good reason to trust Greal for a long time."
Vanteland
03-06-2008, 02:45
"Senatorial elections are not enough, in my view. Executive elections, for President or whatever term you dictators are using these days. And a term limit for legislative and executive positions, to insure you never get back into office."
New Brittonia
03-06-2008, 02:56
The United Socialist States of New Brittonia wishes for the spread, through non-violent means, of democracy and equality to the world."
Nabila Katchab said.
Lord Sumguy
03-06-2008, 03:01
IC:
President Arnold looked at Martin seriously and he said "What's to stop Martin here from filling up the Senate with his puppets and having them control it? It needs to be a fair election, or else!" He then said solemnly "Else it becomes into Sic Semper Tyrannis!" He said "I know a crazed man said this, but if Martin does do it, I will say it to him. Unlike Booth, I am not planning to assassinate anybody, and as such will say it quite truthfully. My nation, has not had a good reason to trust Greal for a long time."
"That issue has already been addresed, Reverend." Lord Sumguy said. "It has been agreed that Hegemony agents will be observing all levels and aspects of the election to ensure that it is fair."
He paused, then continued. "The delegate of Vanteland has a valid point. When will the next Presidential election take place, Mr. Watson, and what is the current system set in place for elections to the Presidency of Greal?"
OOC: Sice Semper Tyrannis means "thus always to tyrants" and usually refers to the overthrow or resistance to tyranny, not to somethign ebcoming a tyranny.
New Brittonia
03-06-2008, 03:04
"Will there be a mandate for elections, though?", Foreign Minister Katchab asked.
"You know Ingram, I always wondered why you married my cousin when she was a ruler of a ruthless Dictatorship."said Martin.
"Go fuck yourself" Spat Ingram, lifting himself from his seat
"Ingram, calm down" Said Hogart, trying to pull the man back into his seat
He remained standing, glaring at Martin, then took a glance at the Hegemon and then looked John in the eyes
Mokastana
03-06-2008, 04:40
Charles got up to help "calm down" Ingram in the event he decided the best dimplomacy was a closed fist, not that Charles didn't mind that idea.
"OK everyone shut up! Martin, I will personally see to it that the people get the senate they want, even if it is filled to the brim with communist. As far back as our nations relations go, I have yet to see a 'Waston' (he spat the name as if merely saying it disgusted him) get Greal any closer to the peace it needs to heal from years of civil war. Our soldiers go to Greal expecting a revolution, it has become the Jaguar creation center for our armed forces, and while the Generalissimos have no trouble with allowing dozens of Greal soldiers to die by Mokan soldiers trying to bring peace I do, because of the thousands of refugees that the fighting has created. How many Greal families have lost loved ones due to your power struggles?"
He would have kept going had not an aide whispered something into his ear....he looked hard at the Greal Representative, then quietly sat down.
Lord Sumguy
03-06-2008, 04:52
"Mr. Hasely, you will remain civil while a guest within the Hegemony Headquarters. Should one more such outsburst occur I will be forced to have you escorted out of this building." The Hegemon said cooly as he awaited a response from Martin.
Neo-Ixania
03-06-2008, 05:40
Listening to the heated debate over the nations of Greston and Greal made the Ixanian delegate sigh calmly but yet showed a bit of her own disappointment as to how a meeting made under good intentions would devolve into mere heated bickering between delegates. Svetlana watched the other guests briefly before she began to put forward her own opinions to the other delegates.
"Perhaps we should change the subject of discussion? I am sure that we can discuss trade between our nations or the exchange of students between our nations to foster the growth of knowledge."
"That issue has already been addresed, Reverend." Lord Sumguy said. "It has been agreed that Hegemony agents will be observing all levels and aspects of the election to ensure that it is fair."
He paused, then continued. "The delegate of Vanteland has a valid point. When will the next Presidential election take place, Mr. Watson, and what is the current system set in place for elections to the Presidency of Greal?"
OOC: Sice Semper Tyrannis means "thus always to tyrants" and usually refers to the overthrow or resistance to tyranny, not to somethign ebcoming a tyranny.
Martin sighed, Ingram wasn't helping this at all. Maybe he'll have Sarah shot, then that would piss off Ingram.
"The next presidential elections aren't until next year. Each political party is allowed to nominate a presidential candidate. I'm from the Republican Party. I'll probably be the front runner for next year's election."
Throughout the screaming and yelling between the Mokan, Greal, and Cazelian delegates Michael sat there in amazement. He had not attended a Hegemony meeting before but his past presidents had. He was astonished at the level of confusion. He nearly laughed out loud when the whispered arguement of the Ixanian was not heard.
Michael said cooly, so as not to piss of Lord Sumguy who was already in an agitated state, "Am I the only one who isn't screaming and yelling over how Greal works?"
He rose out of his chair in a more ominous manner but still in a calm voice he spoke, "Mr. Watson, I would like you to count to five real quickly with your hands. Now look at your palm, sir. Do you see that number in front of you? That is the number of Civil Wars, off the top of my head, that has raged Greal in the past decade. Greal needs some time to cool down and acting as a dictator would not be that definition mate."
"Greal has always been held dear to Greston, even during the time we were not in the Hegemony. So I must say to me personally it is quite hard to see your nation destroyed. Which is why we pushed to help you in teh Leocardian attack. That was a wonderful success but if he was to attack again I for one would not help, and it might be a great success on his part."
Neo-Ixania
03-06-2008, 19:09
Throughout the screaming and yelling between the Mokan, Greal, and Cazelian delegates Michael sat there in amazement. He had not attended a Hegemony meeting before but his past presidents had. He was astonished at the level of confusion. He nearly laughed out loud when the whispered arguement of the Ixanian was not heard.
OOC: It was an arguement? My delegation is not really receptive to the idea that the heated debate about Greal and Greston should continue; they'd like to discuss free trade, student exchanges and so forth.
The Ixanian delegation sighed in unison as the other delegates continued to bicker and complain, in their view, about Greal and Greston's actions. They had offered to have the subject changed but their offer fell on deaf ears. For now they decided to silently watch the debate; although Svetlana thought of leaving or asking Lord Sumguy to enforce a change of subject; this meeting, she felt, would be more better spent in helping the nations assembled getting along not being separated merely because some leader didn't follow the standards of others.
Lord Sumguy
03-06-2008, 19:20
OOC: wait, who's been screaming? Charles, Martin, and LS are all perfectly calm from what I can see. Ingram was the only one to raise his voice. Please dont RP my leader as having lost his temper or become exited when he has not.
Queen Charlette VI
03-06-2008, 19:21
OOC: wait, who's been screaming? Charles, Martin, and LS are all perfectly calm from what I can see. Ingram was the only one to raise his voice.
OOC: Sorry for that; I must have forgotten about that. I am writing, from an IC perspective, that the Ixanian delegation wishes that the topic of discussion be changed. Again, sorry for the mix-up.
OOC: wait, who's been screaming? Charles, Martin, and LS are all perfectly calm from what I can see. Ingram was the only one to raise his voice. Please dont RP my leader as having lost his temper or become exited when he has not.
OOC: Charles did raise his voice a bit when he made his part of the arguement. I never said LS did but from Michael's perspective he isn't too happy with Michael's carrying on with the debate.
Lord Sumguy
03-06-2008, 20:12
"I am afraid that any discussion regarding Greal is now moot, as an agreement regarding elections has already been made. As such, I beleive we should continue on to the next topic at hand. As some of you may know, The Vice Hegemon, Jack Patterson of the United Kingdom, was assasinated while riding through London with myself and my family by an unknown sniper. While there is a precedent set in place for the death of the Hegemon, there is none for the Vice-Hegemon. As such, I ask the council to choose one of the tree options I see of procuring a new Vice-Hegemon. They are as follows:
The first option is to allow me to appoint a new Vice-Hegemon myself. This would probably be the quickest way, but would be undemocratic. The second option before the council is to allow the new Prime Minister of the Second United Kingdom to serve as Vice-Hegemon. The third option is for the council to elect a new Vice-Hegemon in this meeting. I support the third option, as it is, of the three, the most democratic and most likely to produce a new Vice-Hegemon that is satisfactory to all. What ahs the council to say on this matter?"
"That we choose option three and vote upon a new Vice Hegemon. We may not be in the Hegemony any more sir but the alliance still affects us greatly."
Calizorinstan
03-06-2008, 22:55
OOC: My apologies LS..
IC:
President Arnold said "After we discuss who is to become the Vice Hegemon, I believe we should talk about the recent national socialist revolts that are popping up in my nation, as they may spread to other hegemonic nations, depending on their support in different nations."
"That we choose option three and vote upon a new Vice Hegemon. We may not be in the Hegemony any more sir but the alliance still affects us greatly."
"We agree with this. I will not run for Vice Hegemon."
Mokastana
04-06-2008, 16:59
OOC: yeah Charles got a little out of hand...
IC:
"very well, I support the election of a new Hedgemon, as for the socialist uprisings, please remember that Mokastana is very socialist. However we will not support violent activity as long as they have other means to discuss their wishes. "
Lord Sumguy
04-06-2008, 19:02
OOC: yeah Charles got a little out of hand...
IC:
"very well, I support the election of a new Hedgemon, as for the socialist uprisings, please remember that Mokastana is very socialist. However we will not support violent activity as long as they have other means to discuss their wishes. "
OOC: national socialism is another term for fascism.
Hawk Finally spoke up for the first time during the meeting. He was slightly bemused by the confusion as he wasn't really a diplomat at all but a commander. "I would agree with option number three. We in the ASD are all for democracy though we suggest that anyone running must first procure two nominations."
Vanteland
05-06-2008, 02:44
"Don't waste time. We all obviously want option number three. I nominate myself for Vice-Hegemon." Tucker spat out, spiteful of this whole 'democracy' thing that everyone kept arguing for.
"Well then, I nominate Mr. Hogart for Vice Hegemon" Said Ingram, both sternly and loudly.
Lord Sumguy
05-06-2008, 03:44
"Very well." The Hegemon said. "Are there any other nominations?"
Vanteland
05-06-2008, 04:01
OOC: I suggest a second thread for the elections.
Also, when are the next Hegemonic elections coming up? I swear, there hasn't been an election for that position since the last time I was in the Hegemony.
Zackaroth
05-06-2008, 04:01
" I nominate myself. I know I am a new member but I feel I have experiance in helping lead an alliance along. I've been around for a long time and have seen many groups rise and many more crumble. I feel that I have seen it all and could offer advice and a helping hand to the current leadership. I do not expect to win however, but when I see a chance I take it. Better to have gambled then not at all" Aimless said smiling as he leaned back in his chair. He took a small sip of his water before, once again looking at the people around the room.
Lord Sumguy
05-06-2008, 04:23
" I nominate myself. I know I am a new member but I feel I have experiance in helping lead an alliance along. I've been around for a long time and have seen many groups rise and many more crumble. I feel that I have seen it all and could offer advice and a helping hand to the current leadership. I do not expect to win however, but when I see a chance I take it. Better to have gambled then not at all" Aimless said smiling as he leaned back in his chair. He took a small sip of his water before, once again looking at the people around the room.
OOC: is Aimless elected or a dictator? I ask because it will affect whether or not LS supports his nomination.
elections will occur whenever the council wants them to. There is no set term for Hegemony officials, but the council may choose to have an election at any time. Feel free to have your delegate ask for an election for new Hegemony officials.
"I nominate Will Riddle." said Martin, Will looked very surprised.
OOC: I'm planning a surprise RP. About dictators. It starts with this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13744636&postcount=36).
LS, you could hear about the car bombing (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13744636&postcount=36) and post a response to Martin who is right there.
Zackaroth
05-06-2008, 12:02
OOC: is Aimless elected or a dictator? I ask because it will affect whether or not LS supports his nomination.
elections will occur whenever the council wants them to. There is no set term for Hegemony officials, but the council may choose to have an election at any time. Feel free to have your delegate ask for an election for new Hegemony officials.
OOC: He has been elected into office
Lord Sumguy
05-06-2008, 19:12
"I nominate Will Riddle." said Martin, Will looked very surprised.
OOC: I'm planning a surprise RP. About dictators. It starts with this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13744636&postcount=36).
LS, you could hear about the car bombing (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13744636&postcount=36) and post a response to Martin who is right there.
OOC: he wouldnt have had time to re-instate congress yet, as the meeting hasnt even ended. therefore, any response to the car bombing would have to be in a seperate RP or much later in this one.
Another war then? :D
IC: Lord Sumguy smiled. "I second the nominations for Will Riddle and Mr. Von Strangaild."
Mokastana
05-06-2008, 19:33
OOC: national socialism is another term for fascism.
OOC: we are socailist, not National socialist. if anything the majority of Mokans are INTERnational socialist.
On second thought, Mokan economics are just screwed up, but democratic.
and besides whats the point of having bases in Greal if they don't see combat?
MOAR WAR!
IC:
"In that case I will nominate my brother Nicolas Villa, he has served as Mokastana's foreign minister and as president. Currently he is out of politics, but I am sure we wouldn't mind the position."
"I support James Hogart!" Said Ingram in a tone of desperation
OOC: As soon as this meeting is over, I will do the RP.
I also propose that we have a Hegemony forum.
Lord Sumguy
06-06-2008, 11:17
OOC: As soon as this meeting is over, I will do the RP.
I also propose that we have a Hegemony forum.
OOC: We did. It died when you and I were the only ones posting.
I will make a seperate thread for the election later today.
Calizorinstan
06-06-2008, 20:02
IC:
President Arnold stood tall and he said quietly but firmly "I nominate myself." Then he sat down and he looked about the room at the various delegates of the various Hegemonic nations. "I've taken quite a lot of risks for this Hegemony.." He thought as he looked around and he wondered if any would take any for him.
OOC: We did. It died when you and I were the only ones posting.
I will make a seperate thread for the election later today.
OOC
I could make a new forum. ;)
Lord Sumguy
06-06-2008, 22:40
OOC
I could make a new forum. ;)
OOC: If you really want to, knock yourself out.
I have made a Hegemony OOC discussion thread, lets take all OOC chatter there:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13748770#post13748770
Deputy Premier Colgate Waterford stood up.
This could be interesting, thought Premier Andrew da Vincho. I could make a name for himself with a success here. Oh-and the country could receive some publicity too. Think of all the fame!
"I, Deputy Premier Colgate Waterford, would like to nominate Premier Andrew da Vincho for the seat of Vice Hegemon."
Unfortunately, this just adds to the 10 or so-at least that's what it feels like-candidates. But if I could do it-it would be the happiest moment of my life.
After DP Watergate stood down, da Vincho received a call from his aide back in Poiuytrewq. He swore, and then hung up.
"I believe that the Griffencrest Corporation is trying to rob a small nation of its oil. What is the Hegemony's stance on this?"
"My stance is the Cazelian stance. We give them an ultimatum, and if they don't back the fuck off, we make like a whole lot more miserable for the head of Griffincrest Oil" Said Ingram
"That's very good and all... but Claudius Griffencrest has the Corporate Alliance behind him."
OOC: Did Griffin threaten a Hegemony member, that's why we're involved in that conflict? Or are we just currently watching?
"They pose a minimal threat, although their interests have caused much suffering throughout the world. I remember when Griffincrest invaded Greal" Sighed Hogart
"OK then. Anyone else move to adopt Cazelia's response? I, for one, meaning no wrong towards the Cazelian delegation, wish for a more subtle way to gain the Griffencrest Corporation's attention."
Lord Sumguy
09-06-2008, 00:46
After DP Watergate stood down, da Vincho received a call from his aide back in Poiuytrewq. He swore, and then hung up.
"I believe that the Griffencrest Corporation is trying to rob a small nation of its oil. What is the Hegemony's stance on this?"
"The nation in question is a protectorate of Zackaroth, if I am not mistaken. as Zackaroth is a member state of the Hegemony, we are bound by the charter to assist them in defending their protectorates against aggresion." Lord Sumguy said. "To be honest, I beleive that his provides us with a great oppurtunity. Within this conflict, there is a chance that we may be able to assist in removing, or at least halting, a great evil from this earth: the Corporate Alliance."
He looked around. "Since the Hegemony was created I have feared the inevitablility of a confrontation with the CA. It is an organization synonymous with greed, imperialsim, and ruthless expansionism. Countless small nations have been destroyed by the CA, for the merte sake of land or resources. It is a menace to the world, and its destruction is neccesary for any future in which peace may reign. Now it seems that the time of conflict between the Hegemony and CA may have come. Therefore, we must prepare for the possibility of war against the Corporate Alliance."
His expression was grave as he continued. "Do not think that this will be any minor operation of trivial importance or scale. A war against the Corporate Alliance will determine the survival of both the CA and the Hegemony. Defeat would bring about our destruction. Victory would mean theirs. despite the peril that this alliance will be facing if we engage in such a conflict, I beleive that we should not shrink away from such a war. For if there be even the smallest chance that we may destroy an evil as great as this, it is our responsibility to risk everything to do so."
He sat down. "I state again, that if Zackaroth is forced to go to war in order to stave off aggresion on the part of Griffincrest, we are obligated by the charter to act. Insofar as how we shall act, I will submit to the will of the council, whatever it may be."
"According to the latest news from the battlefront in question..." The Duke flipped through a couple of pieces of paper, "several Corporate Alliance members have mobilized, and the Griffencrest Corporation itself has already launched a 'greeting party'."
Zackaroth
09-06-2008, 01:34
" I would like to thank you all for your support but i would like to point out a small detail. Zackaroth is not under attack yet. Griffincrest has turned its focus towards another , smaller nation. As much as it pains me to to do this, I cannot and will not send anything beyond supplies to assist it. The main Zackarothian fleet is protecting our proctorate state while another portion of it is station at Jericho Island, the first defense line of Ghologoth Minor. I ask if you are sending a fleet, to send it there. If they some how break through, we will retreat and put everything we have into destorying what remains of there fleet" Aimless said. Even though it seemed the demons of hell where breathing down his neck, he displayed a calmness.
"I move for each Hegemony member to send a large portion of their military forces to Ghologoth-if not all they have."
Zackaroth
09-06-2008, 01:56
" Not Ghologoth my dear friend, Ghologoth Minor. It lies in the south of Ghologoth. I don't think you should have problems in bringing your fleets to Jericho Island"
OOC: Stupid me.
"I am sorry for the incorrection on my behalf. However, I still move to support Zacharoath forces on Jericho Island."
Mokastana
09-06-2008, 03:14
"Amigo, can you get me a map of the area, Generalissimo Canarias would no doubt find such an asset invaluable"
Just then the PDA vibrated on Charles, he read it quickly and quietly...
"well it appears that the next election is occurring in Mokastana, as a side note of this meeting, here are the options:
General Manuel Diego of the Socialist Worker’s Party
Generalissimo Jorge Gonzalez, World Proletariat Revolutionary Party
not participating, The People’s choice party
Miguel Castro, Conservative Party(CP)
Not participating, Confederate Mokastana Party
Yuri Ivanov, People’s Armed Republic Party
I should get the results soon enough.
“You have Greal’s full support if a full scale war breaks out.” Said Martin.
"As we speak, Alfegos is mobilising. We've known that someday this might inevitably happen, so we're doing something I don't think any man has seen for a while: we're deploying an AeroFleet. 92 airships, all being prepared for battle. I hear it that even the 'decomissioned' AAS Imperator will be joining in the fray, to launch attacks on sea-based assets.
These will be going to mainland Shofercia, and will arrive within 120 hours. Our aim is to annihilate the Corporate Alliance forces in the area, before chasing them back to their respective nations.
As for the Gholgoth theatre, we will be supplying you with 4 stratellites, each outfitted with observation, telemetric and RADAR equipment. Should you need it, these will provide you invaluable footage in insanely high quality, whilst being immune to nearly all attacks: they give off little heat signature most of the time, are at a height where they can't be reached by fighters, and are completely limp in structure. This means the only signature they will pick up will look like a high-altitude cloud. They will be launched within 8 hours, deployed around the theatre by hit-and-run Ekranoplan raiders, and with footage being broadcast once the decryption keys have been sent to you. We're using experimental quantum encryption at the moment for the primary access signal, so you can see if the signal's being tapped when you receive the uplink signal. We'll be providing it at the discretion of the Hegemon.
How does this sound?"
Neo-Ixania
09-06-2008, 17:19
OOC: IC Post coming soon; when I have the time to post.
Mokastana
09-06-2008, 17:27
Charles received more and more emails and information from the command bunker on his PDA. Generalissimo Canarias had been watching and ordered the navy put on high alert, the air force on the other had, was to be war ready in 12 hours. Army and Areal Defense Command forces were brought up to DEFCON 3 and preparred for war. Mokastana was mobilizing.
"So we have the Goloth theatre and the Shoferrcian theatre, is there anywhere else we can expect war? The airforce will be ready to deploy anywhere in the world in 12 hours. This includes bomber teams as well as Joint strike fighter groups, arming with RBK-250s and 500s. What else do we need in theatres?"
"Well then, it seems like war is inevitable. We have a new advanced new infantry uniform, that has a built in HAZMAT suit. We added this due to the fact that the CA will most likely use NBC warfare against us." Said Ingram
OOC: There is a link to the uniform in the Cazelian armoury (in my sig)
Lord Sumguy
09-06-2008, 18:09
"I have no objection to the deployment of the Alfegosian airfleet, though perhaps such a force would be most effective if it was protected by more...modern aircraft. I will be deploying a fleet of the HIDF to Jericho within the next few days, to assist in it's defense should an attack come. It has come to my attention that the Griffincrest Corporation is now blockading Shofercia, and I therefore propose a seperate international fleet be assembled and prepared for the purpose of breaking this blockade." Lord Sumguy said. "We are by no means alone in opposition to Griffincrest and the Corporate Alliance, and the Sumguaian Intelligence Agency assures me that support for our effot will only increase,a nd that many will come to our aid against the Corporate Alliance should a war occur."
Vanteland
09-06-2008, 20:31
"Listen to me, and not the Communist Lord Sumguy for once. Obviously, Lord Sumguy and his nation have broken the Hegemonic charter, by issuing an ultimatum on behalf of the Hegemony without a vote from the Council. Therefore, I submit that he be impeached from the position of Hegemon, and perhaps expelled from the Hegemony."
Hogart looked Boot in the eye angrily "Say such words again and I will order my men to drag you from the premisis, willing or not, Mr. Boot. You are not the Leader of this orginization and therefor you shall not act as such." He said, very annoyed.
"I move for each Hegemony member to send a large portion of their military forces to Ghologoth-if not all they have."
"I do believe sir that you shall shut your mouth. Moving our entire military into such a insolent area is idiotic at best. Why put my nation in danger to save a area that is in no such state? I say we turn down the Cazelian, Kenavtian, and Sumgaian proposals for now and go with what the Grestonians forces have been going at." Michael said calmly.
"If you haven't noticed we were the first to deploy and being as we will be landing in a matter of almost a day I do believe I should be calling the shots for this situtation."
Michael exited his row and went to the front of the room so all could see and hear.
"My proposal is that we get our forces safely landed so we can dig into there and have a stronghold as the Coporate soldiers attack. Mr. Hogart, since your nation thinks it is so mighty navy wise, how about we test that. You can move in unto the Griffencrest blockade.
Alfegosian air ships can aid you in that endeveor with air support. Mr. Watson, Grestonian soldiers are used to fighting by your side by now. Have them land close to Grestonian assets.
The rest of you can do as you like but one thing is for sure, and that is that our attacks should be properly coordinated.
Not a jumbled mess of which the likes of Kenavtian and Cazelian delegates have proposed."
Hogart looked Boot in the eye angrily "Say such words again and I will order my men to drag you from the premisis, willing or not, Mr. Boot. You are not the Leader of this orginization and therefor you shall not act as such." He said, very annoyed.
"Sir, do not speak in such a manner to my dear friend again or the same shall be done to you. Wether I have the authority to do so or not." Michael gave an ominous glare at Hogart. Michael was always insecure around him.
"I do believe sir that you shall shut your mouth. Moving our entire military into such a insolent area is idiotic at best. Why put my nation in danger to save a area that is in no such state? I say we turn down the Cazelian, Kenavtian, and Sumgaian proposals for now and go with what the Grestonians forces have been going at." Michael said calmly.
"If you haven't noticed we were the first to deploy and being as we will be landing in a matter of almost a day I do believe I should be calling the shots for this situtation."
Michael exited his row and went to the front of the room so all could see and hear.
"My proposal is that we get our forces safely landed so we can dig into there and have a stronghold as the Coporate soldiers attack. Mr. Hogart, since your nation thinks it is so mighty navy wise, how about we test that. You can move in unto the Griffencrest blockade.
Alfegosian air ships can aid you in that endeveor with air support. Mr. Watson, Grestonian soldiers are used to fighting by your side by now. Have them land close to Grestonian assets.
The rest of you can do as you like but one thing is for sure, and that is that our attacks should be properly coordinated.
Not a jumbled mess of which the likes of Kenavtian and Cazelian delegates have proposed."
"We are sorry to have insulted you. We thought that Gholgoth Minor was a safe distance away from the blockade. It would be a great place to meet up if the CA was to make a move toward the Hegemony. Where were you thinkin of meeting?"
"I would like to remind you that there are five of my Marines standing outside that door, and I believe you do not. I do not trust you, or Mr. Boot for that matter, since your nation used to be CA; and I'm pretty sure Mr. Boot has ties to Griffincrest. I say to the rest of the delegation that you ignore these men and listen to the men who have actually put themselves on the firing line for their country" Said Hogart
"I agree, although the reason it's a jumbled mess is because we haven't come up with a plan yet. I will send the navy to break the blockade; although my marines have alot of experience in airborne and amphibious landings. We could break the blockade, and then I could land my men with support from our allies" Said Hogart
"I agree with the Grestonians in that attacking the blockade at the moment would be stupid. No offense intended."
"I would like to remind you that there are five of my Marines standing outside that door, and I believe you do not. I do not trust you, or Mr. Boot for that matter, since your nation used to be CA; and I'm pretty sure Mr. Boot has ties to Griffincrest. I say to the rest of the delegation that you ignore these men and listen to the men who have actually put themselves on the firing line for their country" Said Hogart
"My nation? have you not noticed two fucking president terms went by since then? An entirely new cabinet was made and the Parliament was replaced with two new ones. The new government has nothing to do with CA, except for the exchanging of bullets everyonce and a while, so I urge you to quiet your lips. You have no idea about anything of Vanteland so claiming they have ties with the CA is blatant lies. Furthermore I would like you to rectract your statements about not standing for my country and this alliance. Even when we were shunned by you we came to Greal's aid. We were the only ones to attack the Leocardian fleet and if it was not for that move we might have lost that war. We lost more men in the short time we were involved then you did during the entire conflict! How about the time Karim Ja came into the scene? Despite the fact your nation despised us we sent massive airfleets to incept bombers from enemy nations to nuke Karim Ja to hell. Cazelia sent what, twenty fighters? And even worse was that you bordered them in the region that you owned!
You are a disgrace Mr. Hogart. You are a dishonest, propaganda spreading, warmongering bum, not a diplomat. Making threats to people for speaking is not very wise, sir, nor is it what this alliance is based on, peace. And do not question my intelligence, for do you not think I would have protection here after what has happened in all of the past Hegemony events? I sure do have soldiers here. Brave special operations units of the GPG and the IRG."
Lord Sumguy
09-06-2008, 21:43
"Listen to me, and not the Communist Lord Sumguy for once. Obviously, Lord Sumguy and his nation have broken the Hegemonic charter, by issuing an ultimatum on behalf of the Hegemony without a vote from the Council. Therefore, I submit that he be impeached from the position of Hegemon, and perhaps expelled from the Hegemony."
Lord Sumguy laughed. "Communist? That is a new one, whatever happened to theocratic? Really, Mr. Boot, I dont think that slander is neccesary here." He smiled as he continued. "I personally find your accusation utterly ridiculous, as a majority of the present council members have already made clear their support for action to defend Shofercia. Here we are planning on how to best combat Griffincrest and you would impeach me for giving them a chance to withdraw? Perhaps you have not noticed sir, but we are on the brink of a war grander in scale than any of our antions have yet experienced. Time is of the essence, and I acted in an attempt to prevent any bloodshed from being neccesary while there is still time to do so. As Hegemon it is my duty to protect the people of this alliance and of the world, and the ultimatum i gave to Griffincrest was an act in accordance with such responsibility. If you wish to attempt to impeach me, I will not stop you, but I can not hope but wonder as to your motives that you would destabalize the Hegemony while it is on the very edge of a war against an enemy as great as the Corporate Alliance."
He then turned to Michael. "Greston has land forces within Shofercia already? That is fortuitous. Your idea carries merit, Mr. Richardson. Allow me to make a suggestion though, let us encamp in defensive positions along the coast of Shofercia as you suggest. When the Corporate forces begin an amphibious assault, let us then attack their fleets from behind with ours, hopefully catching them between our coastal defenses and attacking fleets."
He sighed. "I would remind all present delegates that there are several hundred men of the Hegemony International Defense force within and around this building, and are authorized to fire upon anyone who discharges a firearm within this building for the duration fo this meeting. I would think that it would not be too much to ask for The honerable delegates from Cazelia and Greston to refrain from threatening one another."
Neo-Ixania
09-06-2008, 21:55
OOC: I'm going to have with-hold Ixanian soldiers from any deployment against the CA: Viticoma has launched an attack against Ixanian Russia.
Svetlana Sturmer had been idly sitting in her chair; just listening to the bitter debates between the other delegates who had come here as representatives of the Hegemonic nations. It did not take long for unfortunate news to reach her as a concerned Ixanian swiftly came to her and whispered some words in Ixanian to her before she stood from her seat. "It has come to my attention that the Ixanian Empire, a member of this noble organization, has been just attacked by Viticoman soldiers in the Russian colony and I believe that the Charter of the Hegemony should be invoked in order to help my nation deal with this threat. If not, then we would understand if the war with the CA is more so of a priority then helping a single member of the organization."
OOC: I'm going to have with-hold Ixanian soldiers from any deployment against the CA: Viticoma has launched an attack against Ixanian Russia.
Svetlana Sturmer had been idly sitting in her chair; just listening to the bitter debates between the other delegates who had come here as representatives of the Hegemonic nations. It did not take long for unfortunate news to reach her as a concerned Ixanian swiftly came to her and whispered some words in Ixanian to her before she stood from her seat. "It has come to my attention that the Ixanian Empire, a member of this noble organization, has been just attacked by Viticoman soldiers in the Russian colony and I believe that the Charter of the Hegemony should be invoked in order to help my nation deal with this threat. If not, then we would understand if the war with the CA is more so of a priority then helping a single member of the organization."
Michael listed to Lord Sumguy and as he was interuppted by the Ixanian delegate. He turned to reply, "Do you not remember the Grestonian colony in such an area. Belstum Europia has your full support. We will deploy immediately in reply."
101st paratroopers
09-06-2008, 21:57
May I join?
Neo-Ixania
09-06-2008, 22:00
Michael listed to Lord Sumguy and as he was interuppted by the Ixanian delegate. He turned to reply, "Do you not remember the Grestonian colony in such an area. Belstum Europia has your full support. We will deploy immediately in reply."
"It is a pleasure to hear that Greston, once nearly our sworn enemy, has come to aid our nation in its time of need. I personally thank you, sir,and Greston for the assistance."
May I join?
OOC: This guy's my friend. I've told him about the CA already, and I'm now sending the link for the thread where he's supposed to post in. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=533242)
Lord Sumguy
09-06-2008, 22:10
OOC: I'm going to have with-hold Ixanian soldiers from any deployment against the CA: Viticoma has launched an attack against Ixanian Russia.
Svetlana Sturmer had been idly sitting in her chair; just listening to the bitter debates between the other delegates who had come here as representatives of the Hegemonic nations. It did not take long for unfortunate news to reach her as a concerned Ixanian swiftly came to her and whispered some words in Ixanian to her before she stood from her seat. "It has come to my attention that the Ixanian Empire, a member of this noble organization, has been just attacked by Viticoman soldiers in the Russian colony and I believe that the Charter of the Hegemony should be invoked in order to help my nation deal with this threat. If not, then we would understand if the war with the CA is more so of a priority then helping a single member of the organization."
"Viticoma, you say?" Lord Sumguy said smiling. "What a coincidence, according to our intelligence, that nation has just applied to join the Corporate alliance. If they are accepted, then there will be no need to choose between protecting Neo-Ixania and combating the Corporate Alliance, as we will be doing both simultaneously. I will send a fleet and large ground force to assist in the defense of Ixanian Russia."
From the corner a man who ahd been leaning against the wall emerged. He was wearing the white and red uniform of an AL soldier, and the organization's insignia was tattooed upon his hand. "The League's forces within Neo-Ixania are at your government's disposal, Ms. Sturmer." He said. "We will, with your government's permission, also deploy forces to assist in defending Ixanian Russia."
Zackaroth
09-06-2008, 22:18
" Please quiet all of you! I believe that delagte of Greston is correct. An assualt on the CA forces currently attacking would be helpful in warding off an attack on me and my smaller nation, HOWEVER, this could all be a trap and while our forces are busy, they may come in and attack the Argoians. This is why I am non to ready to start deploying any forces anywhere, with threat of invasion upon my homeland. And many of you may be asking why I do not call upon the powers of the real Gologoth nations to protect. As much as I would like to, as much as we all know any real Ghologoth fleet would slaughter a CA one, I wish not to appear weak. Running towards them now would make it look like Zackaroth is shielding itself with Ghologoths name and we all know what happens to nations who do that" Aimless said looking around the room again.
" If you all feel like sending forces to attack the CA afar I will not hinder but will not send aid, prepartion for my own front against the CA"
Neo-Ixania
09-06-2008, 22:27
"Viticoma, you say?" Lord Sumguy said smiling. "What a coincidence, according to our intelligence, that nation has just applied to join the Corporate alliance. If they are accepted, then there will be no need to choose between protecting Neo-Ixania and combating the Corporate Alliance, as we will be doing both simultaneously. I will send a fleet and large ground force to assist in the defense of Ixanian Russia."
"The Ixanian Empire thanks Lord Sumguy for his donation of soldiers and ships to assist us in defending the colony of Ixanian Russia from Viticoman aggression. I am hopeful that this war will end with a victory for our faction."
From the corner a man who ahd been leaning against the wall emerged. He was wearing the white and red uniform of an AL soldier, and the organization's insignia was tattooed upon his hand. "The League's forces within Neo-Ixania are at your government's disposal, Mr. Sturmer." He said. "We will, with your government's permission, also deploy forces to assist in defending Ixanian Russia."
"The assistance of the Abrahamic League is appreciated and I am sure that you will have my government's permission; and also I am Ms. Sturmer, not Mr. Sturmer." Svetlana smiled at the end and then looked at the other delegates before speaking to her assistant.
Lord Sumguy
09-06-2008, 22:38
"The Ixanian Empire thanks Lord Sumguy for his donation of soldiers and ships to assist us in defending the colony of Ixanian Russia from Viticoman aggression. I am hopeful that this war will end with a victory for our faction."
"The assistance of the Abrahamic League is appreciated and I am sure that you will have my government's permission; and also I am Ms. Sturmer, not Mr. Sturmer." Svetlana smiled at the end and then looked at the other delegates before speaking to her assistant.
OOC: oops, typo, could we retcon him having said "Mr."?
Neo-Ixania
09-06-2008, 22:40
OOC: oops, typo, could we retcon him having said "Mr."?
OOC: Sure; it's no problem.
Vanteland
09-06-2008, 22:44
Lord Sumguy laughed. "Communist? That is a new one, whatever happened to theocratic? Really, Mr. Boot, I dont think that slander is neccesary here." He smiled as he continued. "I personally find your accusation utterly ridiculous, as a majority of the present council members have already made clear their support for action to defend Shofercia. Here we are planning on how to best combat Griffincrest and you would impeach me for giving them a chance to withdraw? Perhaps you have not noticed sir, but we are on the brink of a war grander in scale than any of our antions have yet experienced. Time is of the essence, and I acted in an attempt to prevent any bloodshed from being neccesary while there is still time to do so. As Hegemon it is my duty to protect the people of this alliance and of the world, and the ultimatum i gave to Griffincrest was an act in accordance with such responsibility. If you wish to attempt to impeach me, I will not stop you, but I can not hope but wonder as to your motives that you would destabalize the Hegemony while it is on the very edge of a war against an enemy as great as the Corporate Alliance."
"But has there been an organized vote? I didn't think so. And besides, before the war can occur, there must first be the elections for a Vice-Hegemon. I say that we not aid Shofercia, nor Griffincrest. Neither is an ally, nor an enemy. As Hegemon, you have overstepped your powers. Your job is not to be guardian of the world, an imperialist notion, but to be the leader of the Hegemony.
You speak of a war greater than any our nations have known. But do you not recall the Vante-Gholgothic War? My nation stood tall against all the nations of Gholgoth, and when we asked you, the so-called protector of free peoples everywhere, you denied Vantanas any aid. Only by appealing to your peoples in the name of Christ could we get a petty two thousand soldiers to fight with us. And worse, the majority of these defected after the bloodiest battle any man here has fought in, the Battle of the Barriers. Vicious Goths ripped across our nation, and more and more we had to resort to desperate measures to save civilians near the battle zones. When asked for aid, all we got was a petty two thousand cowards, and because of it the Freeks were able to kill one and a half billion. That is genocide, Lord Sumguy, and you practically endorsed it.
Although, you are right. I call not for impeaching, but to just skip to the heart of the matter. We need a new Hegemon, one who will not so easily sacrifice lives in pointless wars not concerning us. One who will save the Hegemony from itself."
Lord Sumguy
09-06-2008, 22:46
OOC: Sure; it's no problem.
OOC: alright. ill edit my post then, and you can edit yours.
Lord Sumguy
09-06-2008, 23:04
"But has there been an organized vote? I didn't think so. And besides, before the war can occur, there must first be the elections for a Vice-Hegemon. I say that we not aid Shofercia, nor Griffincrest. Neither is an ally, nor an enemy. As Hegemon, you have overstepped your powers. Your job is not to be guardian of the world, an imperialist notion, but to be the leader of the Hegemony.
You speak of a war greater than any our nations have known. But do you not recall the Vante-Gholgothic War? My nation stood tall against all the nations of Gholgoth, and when we asked you, the so-called protector of free peoples everywhere, you denied Vantanas any aid. Only by appealing to your peoples in the name of Christ could we get a petty two thousand soldiers to fight with us. And worse, the majority of these defected after the bloodiest battle any man here has fought in, the Battle of the Barriers. Vicious Goths ripped across our nation, and more and more we had to resort to desperate measures to save civilians near the battle zones. When asked for aid, all we got was a petty two thousand cowards, and because of it the Freeks were able to kill one and a half billion. That is genocide, Lord Sumguy, and you practically endorsed it.
Although, you are right. I call not for impeaching, but to just skip to the heart of the matter. We need a new Hegemon, one who will not so easily sacrifice lives in pointless wars not concerning us. One who will save the Hegemony from itself."
"Oh? You would ahve had me throw this alliance into certain destruction to save Vantania from it's own warmongering? It was Vantania that attacked the Goths, your nation was no victim of causeless aggresion." Lord Sumguy said. He was calm, and yet outrage and anger seemed to eminate from him like an aura. "You would have had me fight all of Golgoth, and doom the Hegemony and it's people to the same fate as your people suffered? Your nation's demise was it's own doing, and I did all that I could to save your people from it without causing the destruction of the Hegemony in the process. Have you no shame, Mr. Boot? You enter this council after I decide to give your nation a second chance as a member of the Hegemony, and immediately demand land from me for having rescued citizens of your nation from the Goths. You then proceed to accuse me of hypocrisy, slander me, demand my impeachement, and now are advocating immediately depriving me from my elected position as Hegemon. Perhaps I was a fool to think that you would have learned anything from the ruin of Vantania, it seems that you are just as greedy, hypocritical, and ungrateful of goodwill as your predecessors were. If you wish to discuss future action taken by the Hegemony, I am willing to do so, but I ask first that you cease insulting me with false accusations and blatant slander."
The Decaying Worlds
09-06-2008, 23:05
The Borderlord stepped out of the simple car, which drove off in the distant. He disliked technology; and he eyes the Sumguyan guards with a disliking gaze. He flashed his papers and continued through the gate, not needing directions. It the Borderlord had navigated the worlds for that long without trouble, he doubted he needed help in finding the conference room.
The Borderlord passed before the door. Voices came through, and he smiled: the rulers of the various nations in the Hegemony were at it again. Always were, those people.
The tall man straightened his ceremonial robe, pausing to touch the signiture of the Decaying Worlds: a white skull, biting down upon a golden star. Sighing, he thought, 'Here I go again.'
The Borderlord reached forward and knocked three times on the door[s].
Vanteland
09-06-2008, 23:37
"Oh? You would ahve had me throw this alliance into certain destruction to save Vantania from it's own warmongering? It was Vantania that attacked the Goths, your nation was no victim of causeless aggresion." Lord Sumguy said. He was calm, and yet outrage and anger seemed to eminate from him like an aura. "You would have had me fight all of Golgoth, and doom the Hegemony and it's people to the same fate as your people suffered? Your nation's demise was it's own doing, and I did all that I could to save your people from it without causing the destruction of the Hegemony in the process. Have you no shame, Mr. Boot? You enter this council after I decide to give your nation a second chance as a member of the Hegemony, and immediately demand land from me for having rescued citizens of your nation from the Goths. You then proceed to accuse me of hypocrisy, slander me, demand my impeachement, and now are advocating immediately depriving me from my elected position as Hegemon. Perhaps I was a fool to think that you would have learned anything from the ruin of Vantania, it seems that you are just as greedy, hypocritical, and ungrateful of goodwill as your predecessors were. If you wish to discuss future action taken by the Hegemony, I am willing to do so, but I ask first that you cease insulting me with false accusations and blatant slander."
"Old man, you will regret your actions here today. Let the soldiers of the Hegemony die fighting for ingrateful masters and led by a bloodthirsty emperor. My nation resigns itself from the Hegemony. May God have mercy on your souls."
With that, Tucker left, completely unaware that a bug from his coat had fallen out, and blended perfectly with the Council Room carpet.
This time Ingram stood up and looked at Boot "I thought you looked familiar! You are the one who massacred the Kal'Har in your protectorate! You are the one who have oppressed my people for so long!" Yelled Ingram, anger surging from him like thunder "It pleases me that the Freeks killed your people and took your land! For once I don't care for a people who have suffered! I say that this sickening vermin be thrown from the Hegemony!"
Again Hogart stood up, but before he could talk, Boot spoke. Hogart's expression turned almost violent as he clenched his fist
"Ingram, hand me your sidearm." He growled
"What?" Ingram replied
"Give me your sidearm, so I can shoot that corporate bastard where he stands"
"James, no. As much as I'd like to shoot him, I'm not giving you my gun"
Hogart snickered as he heard Tucker's remark just before he left. He threw Ingram's arm from where it stayed and drew out his .357 Magnum. He took aim, but was thrown off by Ingram, who ripped the pistol from his hand and threw it to the waiting Marine
"James! Calm yourself! Stop acting like me!" Ingram yelled with embarrassment covering his face
"Marine, take this man back to the vehicle until he can calm down"
He turned to Lord Sumguy "I would like to apologize for James. That last remark Boot made was unnaceptable. Anyways, this action of his will not go unpunished. I will act to avenge my people killed or oppressed by the Vantanians"
Lord Sumguy
10-06-2008, 00:37
"Old man, you will regret your actions here today. Let the soldiers of the Hegemony die fighting for ingrateful masters and led by a bloodthirsty emperor. My nation resigns itself from the Hegemony. May God have mercy on your souls."
With that, Tucker left, completely unaware that a bug from his coat had fallen out, and blended perfectly with the Council Room carpet.
Lord Sumguy sighed as Mr. Boot left. "How dissapointing. I had thought that a nation such as Vantania could change for the better." As Mr. Boot left, a guard noticed the bug fall, and walked over to pick it up. Realizing it was probably a bug, he took it out of the room to destroy it.
Vanteland
10-06-2008, 00:47
This time Ingram stood up and looked at Boot "I thought you looked familiar! You are the one who massacred the Kal'Har in your protectorate! You are the one who have oppressed my people for so long!" Yelled Ingram, anger surging from him like thunder "It pleases me that the Freeks killed your people and took your land! For once I don't care for a people who have suffered! I say that this sickening vermin be thrown from the Hegemony!"
Again Hogart stood up, but before he could talk, Boot spoke. Hogart's expression turned almost violent as he clenched his fist
"Ingram, hand me your sidearm." He growled
"What?" Ingram replied
"Give me your sidearm, so I can shoot that corporate bastard where he stands"
"James, no. As much as I'd like to shoot him, I'm not giving you my gun"
Hogart snickered as he heard Tucker's remark just before he left. He threw Ingram's arm from where it stayed and drew out his .357 Magnum. He took aim, but was thrown off by Ingram, who ripped the pistol from his hand and threw it to the waiting Marine
"James! Calm yourself! Stop acting like me!" Ingram yelled with embarrassment covering his face
"Marine, take this man back to the vehicle until he can calm down"
He turned to Lord Sumguy "I would like to apologize for James. That last remark Boot made was unnaceptable. Anyways, this action of his will not go unpunished. I will act to avenge my people killed or oppressed by the Vantanians"
OOC: You obviously have a short memory. It was not Boot who was Protector of that Protectorate, and the Vantanians gave independence, and reparations, to them some time ago. That, and the only ones 'oppressed' were the Kal'Har, who were merely genocided off entirely.
Although I love how your leaders act like three year olds. It is quite hilarious, keep it up.
OOC: As far as I can remember he was the leader of Vantania at the time of the Genocide. And I also you gave the territory in which the genocide happened to TWSP.
Anyways, Ingram was the man leading the resistance when TWSP invaded a while back and saw the events first-hand. He has a grudge against Vantanians for what they did.
The Decaying Worlds
10-06-2008, 01:27
The Borderlord stepped away from the doorway to let the angry man pass. Sighing, he walked through the threshold. It was opened; he didn't see anyone resisting him. Looking around at the representatives, he said, "What have you gotten yourself into, this time? Another war?"
The appearance of the new delegate surprised Ingram. He looked at him
"Yeah, pretty much. We're going up against the CA, the big, bad bullies of the playground"
The Decaying Worlds
10-06-2008, 02:02
The Borderlord smiled. "That's nice. Send any dying nations to my realm." He walked over, almost so slowly it would seem he was taking his time, yet just fast enough not to disrupt the order of things, to an empty seat and sat down, folding his robes onto his lap. "And what exactly do you need from me?"
“Greal has several naval fleets ready for deployment, plus our massive army. Where are they needed?”
"Old man, you will regret your actions here today. Let the soldiers of the Hegemony die fighting for ingrateful masters and led by a bloodthirsty emperor. My nation resigns itself from the Hegemony. May God have mercy on your souls."
With that, Tucker left, completely unaware that a bug from his coat had fallen out, and blended perfectly with the Council Room carpet.
This time Ingram stood up and looked at Boot "I thought you looked familiar! You are the one who massacred the Kal'Har in your protectorate! You are the one who have oppressed my people for so long!" Yelled Ingram, anger surging from him like thunder "It pleases me that the Freeks killed your people and took your land! For once I don't care for a people who have suffered! I say that this sickening vermin be thrown from the Hegemony!"
Again Hogart stood up, but before he could talk, Boot spoke. Hogart's expression turned almost violent as he clenched his fist
"Ingram, hand me your sidearm." He growled
"What?" Ingram replied
"Give me your sidearm, so I can shoot that corporate bastard where he stands"
"James, no. As much as I'd like to shoot him, I'm not giving you my gun"
Hogart snickered as he heard Tucker's remark just before he left. He threw Ingram's arm from where it stayed and drew out his .357 Magnum. He took aim, but was thrown off by Ingram, who ripped the pistol from his hand and threw it to the waiting Marine
"James! Calm yourself! Stop acting like me!" Ingram yelled with embarrassment covering his face
"Marine, take this man back to the vehicle until he can calm down"
He turned to Lord Sumguy "I would like to apologize for James. That last remark Boot made was unnaceptable. Anyways, this action of his will not go unpunished. I will act to avenge my people killed or oppressed by the Vantanians"
Michael turned as Hogart threw his gun towards Boot, who had left the room. Hogart was taken care of but Michael was not finished with what had just happened.
Michael stayed calm but let his anger and hatred show when he spoke, "You say their last remark was unacceptable but, Mr. Hasley, you speak as if your friend never tried to take away the sanity of someones life. Seconds ago your imperialistic, bastard friend pulled a gun out on that Vantelander. And that is acceptable, Mr. Hasley?
You are a hypocrit sir. My dear Cazelians, simply put you are worse then what you depict me to be. Not only are you racist and violent but you enjoy spreading slander and jumping the gun more often than not. This is truely unacceptable, not the petty comment you said to be."
Michael turned to Lord Sumguy then with a look of suprise and shock with his taking care of the situtation.
"Mr. Sumguy, you portray the Hegemony to be peaceful but why then do you allow member nation's delegates to pull guns out during a conference? You punished me for being a bit snippy during an arguement but Mr. Hogart and friends have not only cursed me out, told blatant lies, and spread slanderous insults about me and Mr. Boot but they have attmepted murder of another human in the halls of a conference room for an alliance based on peace. Why have you not yet once reparmanded this rule breaking, dishonest, men?"
"People control yourselves." said Will getting up."You have already pointed guns at President Watson here. This a meeting, not a target practice."
Thats About enough Thought Hawk to Himself.
In a voice that he had used many times to pass orders over the noises of combat Hawk Said "ENOUGH!" Waiting a few seconds he then began again "We are about to face one of the most powerful opponents of our time and the delegates that represent the nations that will be fighting together act like this?!? You people are acting little better than children here now listen too the Hegemony and we can get back to business instead of this Petty Squabbling" Turning to LS Hawk bowed "Mr. Hegemon, please, the floor is yours"
Lord Sumguy
10-06-2008, 04:02
Thats About enough Thought Hawk to Himself.
In a voice that he had used many times to pass orders over the noises of combat Hawk Said "ENOUGH!" Waiting a few seconds he then began again "We are about to face one of the most powerful opponents of our time and the delegates that represent the nations that will be fighting together act like this?!? You people are acting little better than children here now listen too the Hegemony and we can get back to business instead of this Petty Squabbling" Turning to LS Hawk bowed "Mr. Hegemon, please, the floor is yours"
"Thank you, Mr. Hawk." Lord Sumguy said, smiling. He turned to Michael. 'I am afraid you havent been istening, Michael, I have repeatedly asked the Cazelian delegation and yourself to cease actin in an uncivil manner." He clapped hi shands once, and a pair of Royal Guardsmen entetered the room and stood on either side of Ingram. "Now," the Hegemon said. "Can we cease bickering like children and focus upon the challenge that lies before us? Unfortunately, Mr. Richardson," He said, as an aide entered the room and laid a report in front of him. " I am afraid, Mr. Richardson, that I do not find myself trusting the government of vanteland as much as you do. Therefore, I am of the opinion that a new plan of attack is needed. Given the recent developements, I raise the idea that we instead strike at the Corporate Allaince through an invasion of the nation of Maldorians, as many of the other CA nations are under attack or soon to be attacked by non-Hegemonic nations, and Maldorians is one of the fe left "unnacounted for"."
"Thank you, Mr. Hawk." Lord Sumguy said, smiling. He turned to Michael. 'I am afraid you havent been istening, Michael, I have repeatedly asked the Cazelian delegation and yourself to cease actin in an uncivil manner." He clapped hi shands once, and a pair of Royal Guardsmen entetered the room and stood on either side of Ingram. "Now," the Hegemon said. "Can we cease bickering like children and focus upon the challenge that lies before us? Unfortunately, Mr. Richardson," He said, as an aide entered the room and laid a report in front of him. "it would seem that you were intcorrect regarding Vantanian ties to Griffencrest. Vanteland has joined the Coporate Alliance. This means that our previous plan of attack will need to be revised, as the Vante government will no doubt forward our current plan to our enemies. Given the recent developements, I raise the idea that we instead strike at the Corporate Allaince through an invasion of the nation of Maldorians, as many of the other CA nations are under attack or soon to be attacked by non-Hegemonic nations, and Maldorians is one of the fe left "unnacounted for"."
"We agree to this plan." said Martin,"Griffincrest is busy with several nations invading it."
Vanteland
10-06-2008, 05:08
"Thank you, Mr. Hawk." Lord Sumguy said, smiling. He turned to Michael. 'I am afraid you havent been istening, Michael, I have repeatedly asked the Cazelian delegation and yourself to cease actin in an uncivil manner." He clapped hi shands once, and a pair of Royal Guardsmen entetered the room and stood on either side of Ingram. "Now," the Hegemon said. "Can we cease bickering like children and focus upon the challenge that lies before us? Unfortunately, Mr. Richardson," He said, as an aide entered the room and laid a report in front of him. "it would seem that you were intcorrect regarding Vantanian ties to Griffencrest. Vanteland has joined the Coporate Alliance. This means that our previous plan of attack will need to be revised, as the Vante government will no doubt forward our current plan to our enemies. Given the recent developements, I raise the idea that we instead strike at the Corporate Allaince through an invasion of the nation of Maldorians, as many of the other CA nations are under attack or soon to be attacked by non-Hegemonic nations, and Maldorians is one of the fe left "unnacounted for"."
OOC: That was SIC. There's no way you could no that. And there's no way that the meeting could have progressed forward a whole week or so. After all, Boot has to fly home, attend to the waiting legislature, let the CA proposal be accepted by Parliament, submit the proposal to the CA, and then have it be accepted by the CA. And even if the meeting did go that far, it's still SIC.
In fact, ICly the Corporate Alliance doesn't even, technically, exist.
Mokastana
10-06-2008, 05:57
After listening to the delegates righting and (nearly) shooting eachother Charles had made a small list and also began receiving updates on the election...
"So we have War with the CA, can we get a list of the theatres? (OOC:threads)
also, we need to elect a vice hegemon....canidates?
is there anything else?"
this council desperately needed a secretary, and Charles was falling into role, looking at his notes and realizing no one here had kept anything in check...
Lord Sumguy
10-06-2008, 11:50
OOC: That was SIC. There's no way you could no that. And there's no way that the meeting could have progressed forward a whole week or so. After all, Boot has to fly home, attend to the waiting legislature, let the CA proposal be accepted by Parliament, submit the proposal to the CA, and then have it be accepted by the CA. And even if the meeting did go that far, it's still SIC.
In fact, ICly the Corporate Alliance doesn't even, technically, exist.
OOC: and yet, it was fine for Mr. Boot to know of the ultimatum? Ah well, post edited.
as far as wether the CA exists IC'ly, that's kinda absurd, as many of the CA nations have made delcarations or statements within IC posts stating that they are indeed Corporate Alliance members. So, i have no idea what you are talking about there.
"I do believe my plan could work much better than yours, sir. The reason being is that you want to more jumbled messes of attacks. Strategy is what is needed here, not overwhelming stupidity. On the note we should invade Corporate nations, that is absurd. What we should do bring them to the Shofercian and other numerous theatres. If we can put enough of a strain unto their economy and military at home they are practically handing their defeat over to us.
As for Maldorians. I do believe that is being taken care of, Mr. Sumguy. You are sorely mistaken if you think Maldorians is not covered. As we speak Grestonian Infantry is closing down on the Maldorian soldiers stationed in my homeland.
Soon, once those pests are taken care of, Grestonian Militarymen will move onto the Maldorian home land. They are covered, sir, no need to fret. So I still propose we follow my original plan.
Lord Sumguy, if you get your men there fast enough you can possibly get the HIDF units stationed near mine."
Calizorinstan
10-06-2008, 22:48
IC:
President Arnold stood up and he said firmly "My nation will join in, though we were once a member of the Corporate Alliance, and we still use the Skynet SAM system that we acquired, we are not in spirit members of the Corporate Alliance. As such, I do not feel that by joining the cause against the Corporate Alliance that we are traitors. We will do what we need to help our friends and this is high time that our world stood up against Griffencrest and the bullying tactics that they employ. We may fail, in which case we and all the Hegemony will go out in a blaze."
"I volunteer the services of our SR-40 Overlord supersonic recon jets to overfly the enemy positions to get a good view of what we will be up against. If need be, my son will personally fly one and get a view."
Zackaroth
10-06-2008, 23:19
" I agree with Greston on this matter. While having Hegmony fleets at Jericho island would bloster my defenses it deters from our goal. I can defend it and my homeland with my Gholgoth brothers. Also because I support this mission i am asking for a vote to let Greston lead this mission against the CA because they seem to have the most knowledge and battle stratgey against them. Do not let your egos or emotions affect what you decided. This could be our only chance at hurting the CA in a big way. Lets not waste it" Aimless said, getting up and looking over everyone, hoping they would take his advice.
“If we destroy Griffincrest, the rest of the CA members may pull out of the alliance.”
Calizorinstan
11-06-2008, 02:23
IC:
President Arnold said "We are going up against a very large organization, thus it is well that we have lots of allies on our side, else it would go hard for us if we didn't. But, it'll still be a very costly war to wage."
The Decaying Worlds
11-06-2008, 02:28
"I am ready to make a sacrifice," the Borderlord said. "While my nation is not new, nor old, for worlds have been dying since the foundation of the first world, I do not have that many people, but we are willing to sacrifice a great deal in helping destroy this threatening organization."
“If we destroy Griffincrest, the rest of the CA members may pull out of the alliance.”
"Or the savage beasts will came running at us in a revengeful rage, fueled by their leaders death. I will say it for them and they have said it for themselves, they will fight to the end."
Michael turned to greet Aimless's point, "Thank you kind sir, I agree with this man's motion."
Vanteland
11-06-2008, 03:23
"I am ready to make a sacrifice," the Borderlord said. "While my nation is not new, nor old, for worlds have been dying since the foundation of the first world, I do not have that many people, but we are willing to sacrifice a great deal in helping destroy this threatening organization."
OOC: Sorry to bud in, but are you literally another world? The afterlife or something? Because you're going to have a lot of trouble doing any fighting if you are. And people are probably going to take issue if you say you have too many people over your current level. Especially since you're apperantly completely new to the game.
Just want some clarification, as well as to give some.
"We also agree with his point. We currently have three fleets going to Shoferica, and another three waiting to be sent somewhere." said Martin Watson
"As it is for me, my fleet shall be pulling in about right now."
The Decaying Worlds
11-06-2008, 20:09
OOC: Sorry to bud in, but are you literally another world? The afterlife or something? Because you're going to have a lot of trouble doing any fighting if you are. And people are probably going to take issue if you say you have too many people over your current level. Especially since you're apperantly completely new to the game.
Just want some clarification, as well as to give some.
OOC: The theory of a world having essence--and that that essence can escape a dying world to find comfort somewhere else--is part of my nation. The Decaying Worlds is just there for nations having problems to recuperate. And everybody in the Decaying Worlds is alive and kicking, not in the afterlife.
Lord Sumguy
12-06-2008, 15:15
"Perhaps you are right, Mr. Richardson, we may not need to strike at Madldorians yet." Lord Sumguy said, looking at a sheet of paper that an aide had just laid in front of him. "However, it would seem that.....airships of Alfegos and the Desterted Territories have engaged one another in combat within Shofercia. According to the Hegemony charter, we are obligated to declare war upon the Deserted Territories and aid Alfegos against this nation. Deserted Territories is a nation of the Corporate Alliance, and I beleive that therefore, as the destruction of the Corporate Alliance is a goal of our, that our priority should not be to merely defend ourselves against this threat, but to remove it entirely, whether through an invasion or a surrender agreement."
"The ASD will follow the lead of the Hegemon."Said Hawk
"Alfegos forces have commenced an attack on a Deserted Territory airship as we speak now, and are preparing for their attack run on the airship. I wish to ask the council whether this action was too hasty. However, we assure all that we intend to primarily capture the airship we are attacking, not to destroy."
"It does not sound too hasty to me."