NationStates Jolt Archive


Minervias Looking to Buy Small Arms

Minervias
25-05-2008, 20:52
http://i31.tinypic.com/nxw6mg.png
Diplomat Knowlton of the Armed Republic of Minervias
May 25th, 2008 | Dispatched from the Centre of Public Order in Minervias City




It has been brought to the attention of Sir Tobias Sephar, the head of the national police department, that our growing nation is in need of an increasing number of small arms in order to preserve public normalcy. Crime has been is currently on the down turn in our small nation after a crack down by our police and military throughout the nation and an increase in deportations for crimes. We wish to continue this trend with your cooperation. Specifications of weapons needed are listed below.


Weapons must be small arms. We are looking for assault rifles, sub-machine guns and handguns.
Rifles must be no larger than .223 or 7.62x39 caliber.
Submachine Guns are preferred to have the .45 caliber.
Buying approximately 80,000 assault rifles, 30,000 submachine guns, and 53,000 pistols.


Please do not advertise your AK-47s or any variants over 20 years old. We are looking to modernize our weaponry. If you have any suggestions on weapons, please let us know:

On behalf of the citizens of Minervias, we thank the global community for their interest in this matter. We look forward to your offers.
Chernobyl-Pripyat
26-05-2008, 17:12
The Kiev Arms Plant has presented the AN-94 as a possible candidate for you nations service rifle.


http://snowflakesinhell.com/blogpics/an94.jpg





Vladislav Yencheske
Kiev Arms Plant
Minervias
26-05-2008, 19:06
OFFICIAL REPORT FROM THE CENTRE OF PUBLIC ORDER IN MINERVIAS CITY

We are pleased to see we have found a possible candidate, The Kiev Arms Plant , for our large weapons purchase. As stated above, we are looking to buy approximately 80,000 assault rifles of the AN-94 model.

We require a clarification of prices before we can proceed however. Thank you for your time.

-Diplomat Knowlton
The Grand World Order
26-05-2008, 19:40
To: Minervias
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs, Trade Department, Arms Division

We at the GWO have weapons that will much suit your needs. We sell models produced by the Government, as well as ones produced by the Emorden-Geist Arms Manufacturing Corporation. If you are interested in knowing the statistics of each weapon that meets your statistics, please respond ASAP.
HuTianDi
26-05-2008, 19:51
Message from Bai Egnineering (a conglomerate owned by HuTianDI)
Our company would like to put forth our assault rifle for your testing and possible adoption.
NAR-92 (http://htddesigns.ipbfree.com/index.php?showtopic=2)
We hope that you will consider our offer and possibly accept it.

Bai Engineering Conglomerate
Jeuna
26-05-2008, 19:53
Burned out, but the Type 67 (http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/wiki/Type_67) and QSZ-94 (http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/wiki/QSZ-94) are up for export. You can post on my storefront (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543241) should you decide to purchase them.
Minervias
26-05-2008, 21:19
OFFICIAL REPORT FROM THE CENTRE OF PUBLIC ORDER IN MINERVIAS CITY
This letter is addressed to the multiple nations and distributing agencies who have proven their interest:

In response to the letter from the Arms Division of the Trade Department of the GWO Office of Foreign Affairs,

We are very interested in in the statistics of the weapons you are offering. We look forward to your reply.

In response to the letter from the Bai Engineering conglomerate,

We have reviewed the statistics of the NAR-92 through the information you have sent us. Our weapons experts have determined it would be an acceptable weapon for our forces to use as a light support weapon. If we do go through this notion, we would be buying approximately 10,000 NAR-92s with drum magazines.

Therefore we wish to find out more information on this weapon. The primary question asked was whether or not the weapon had been field tested. We look forward to your reply.

In response to the letter from the Rao Arms company of Tieshan, Jeuna,

Our military experts have reviewed the two weapons ( Type 67 and QSZ-94 ) through the information you have provided to us. Unfortunately they found the Type 67 weapon of the "Battle Rifle" type would not suit our needs. However they expressed great interest in the QSZ-94 pistol. They were very impressed with the model and design of the weapon. Therefore we have decided to purchase 53,000 pistols of this type. I as diplomat, will be visiting your storefront shortly to finalize the order.

The Armed Republic of Minervias thanks you.
Chernobyl-Pripyat
26-05-2008, 23:08
OFFICIAL REPORT FROM THE CENTRE OF PUBLIC ORDER IN MINERVIAS CITY

We are pleased to see we have found a possible candidate, The Kiev Arms Plant , for our large weapons purchase. As stated above, we are looking to buy approximately 80,000 assault rifles of the AN-94 model.

We require a clarification of prices before we can proceed however. Thank you for your time.

-Diplomat Knowlton


The approximate cost per rifle is $1200, however we are willing to negotiate.


Vladislav Yencheske
Kiev Arms Plant
Raven corps
26-05-2008, 23:23
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/hobbeeb/RavenRifle.png

Raven Corps. Small Arms Division
Model: RC-90-A
Classification: Assault Rifle
Calibre: 7.62x39
Ammo Varient: AP, Hollow-point,& Incenderary
Construct: Polymer Composite
Action system: Gass-assisted Recoil Feed
Fire modes:
a. Semi-Auto
b. 3 shot Burst
c. Full Automatic

Avalible features:
Quick removable barrels for swift replacment
Maybe purchased with seperate attachments to alter original purpose from A.R. to C.A.R. to Light Machine gun to Sniper rifle
Infrared Laser Targeting
Flashlight
Grenade luancher

Price:
$6000 USD per unit
Doomingsland
26-05-2008, 23:32
Armacorp and Doomingsland Defense Industries would like to submit the following designs for consideration by the Minervian military:

The AVIR Assault Rifle (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=550850) is among one of the most widely used rifles in the world by professional armies, seeing over 1.1 billion export orders in the first year of sales.

The ADEC Light Machinegun (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=554972) is a superb compliment to the AVIR series as a light machinegun or squad automatic weapon.

Finally, the TDX pistol (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11971725&postcount=1) is among one of the most widely proliferated handguns in the world and has a fearsome reputation among its users and foes alike, having been used in dozens of recent wars.
Jeuna
26-05-2008, 23:37
[ God, I wish I'd have noticed this before, but, erm, Chernobyl, you realize that, by long-established convention here, he could have produced those AN-94s anyway, had he chosen to...?

When one bids for weapons on II they are supposed to exclude real-life weapons, by that same convention (and you'll see real quickly why). :| For the love of God, don't fuck over those of us who've actually spent some time and energy working on our equipment, as opposed to selling various links to Wikipedia. It's just. . . no, it's not even cheap. It's just plain insulting to feel like I've wasted my time even thinking a little bit about my equipment when the next guy can just plop down a photograph and maybe a couple lines of statistics.

Ugh. But yeah, I'll bop over to my thread and confirm your sidearm order, Minervias. It'll be a bit rushed though, so sorry in advance for not having the time to type up a proper letterheaded, etc. reply. ]
Amastol
26-05-2008, 23:37
Dear Sirs and or Madams,

We have recently heard of your laudable search to modernize your military. We have recently gone through the same procedure, and are quite intimately aware of the headaches, and difficult decisions that often accompany such a process. We do wish to help ease your troubles however with an offer to profit from our recent modernizations by enlightening you to the Equinox Series of Pistols. Widely popular the world over for their reliability and superior construction the Equinox is not out of place in the hands of Military specialists, or police officers in your urban centers. With multiple options to customize the pistols to your needs, we are sure we can satisfy your needs with the pride and excellent engineering Argus is know for. If you are intrigued please feel free to click on the following promotional image to learn more about the outstanding Equinox Series.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/jay3135/guns/EQt.png (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13701019&postcount=1)
click me for more info on the Equinox

Even if the Equinox is not what your looking for, to supplement your current rifles we strongly recommend our new Sentinel Holosight, a proven force multiplier, a holosight can help make each soldier the best they can be. Quicker on target, quicker target recognition, and higher accuracy than traditional Iron sights the Sentinel is designed to handle the worst environments and serve proudly alongside your service men and women.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/jay3135/guns/ARGUSSent.png (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13717500&postcount=1)
click me for more info on the Sentinel

We thank you kindly for your time and wish you the best of luck as you continue working on your modernization.

Sincerely,
-Horatio Auser,
Sales Department lead
Minervias
27-05-2008, 00:46
[ God, I wish I'd have noticed this before, but, erm, Chernobyl, you realize that, by long-established convention here, he could have produced those AN-94s anyway, had he chosen to...?

When one bids for weapons on II they are supposed to exclude real-life weapons, by that same convention (and you'll see real quickly why). :| For the love of God, don't fuck over those of us who've actually spent some time and energy working on our equipment, as opposed to selling various links to Wikipedia. It's just. . . no, it's not even cheap. It's just plain insulting to feel like I've wasted my time even thinking a little bit about my equipment when the next guy can just plop down a photograph and maybe a couple lines of statistics.

Ugh. But yeah, I'll bop over to my thread and confirm your sidearm order, Minervias. It'll be a bit rushed though, so sorry in advance for not having the time to type up a proper letterheaded, etc. reply. ]

OOC:

I really apologize for starting all that. I'm only a week old to this game and I thought the rule of excluding real life only dealt with things such as policies and nations. Once again I'm sorry.

OFFICIAL REPORT FROM THE CENTRE OF PUBLIC ORDER IN MINERVIAS CITY

This letter is addressed to the multiple nations and distributing agencies who have proven their interest:

Addressing all nations interested,

We have placed our order of 53,000 QSZ-94 type pistols from the Rao Arms company of Tieshan, Jeuna. This fulfills our requirement for weapons of this type. We are still investigating into Assault Rifles and Submachine Guns.

Addressing The Kiev Arms Plant from Chernobyl-Pripyat,

Due to recent events beyond our control, we will not be able to go through with out purchase of the AN-94 assault rifles. We thank you for your interest in this matter and hope it does not strain our relations with your nation.

In response to the letter from the Raven Corps. Small Arms Division,

The prospect of having your modern weapon in our military and police force is tempting. However two majour obstacles stand in our way from making a sound judgment. First our military leaders require information on how the weapon preformed in a field test. Secondly the $6000 price tag is steep compared to offers from other nations. We realize with currency conversion it will be less, however I regret to inform you it is still above what we are willing to pay. Especially since we will be making such a large bulk order.

In response to the letter from the Doomingsland Defense Industries and Stalwart Munition company,

After much debate and reading of your thorough description of the AVIR Assault Rifle, we are ready to negotiate an agreement for 30,000 of these weapons. Thorough analysis has revealed that in the weapon's carbine configuration, it would satisfy our need of a modern submachine gun. Even though the caliber is not what we initially wanted for our submachine guns, we feel this weapon would out preform the weapons we had in mind.

That being said, we are moving forward to approach the storefront to purchase these weapons in the amount of 30,000. You will hear from us shortly and we thank you for your cooperation.

In response to the letter from the ARGUS Industrial Manufacturing company,

We thank you for your kind words and designs submitted to our office. We regret to inform you we have satisfied our order of 53,000 pistols from another source. However your famous holosight has sparked our interest. We may be contacting you soon about purchasing these in bulk.

-Diplomat Knowlton
Orbath
27-05-2008, 01:12
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff216/PhotoOrbath/orbathdiploheader.png
The nation of Orbath would like to recommend Yanitarian arms (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543091), a fine maker of small arms which has provided our nation with quality weapons for many years.
HuTianDi
27-05-2008, 11:59
In response to the letter from the Bai Engineering conglomerate,

We have reviewed the statistics of the NAR-92 through the information you have sent us. Our weapons experts have determined it would be an acceptable weapon for our forces to use as a light support weapon. If we do go through this notion, we would be buying approximately 10,000 NAR-92s with drum magazines.

Therefore we wish to find out more information on this weapon. The primary question asked was whether or not the weapon had been field tested. We look forward to your reply.

Message to Minervias

the weapon's Primary role is the primary assault rifle of HuTianDi forces. Because of this, the weapon has been field tested. In battle the weapon, in standard assault rifle form, performed better than expected. This was proven in the action taken with the terrorists in our nation present after the civil war. However, the use of the weapon as a primary light support weapon, though possible, is not recommended. The weapon requires segnificant reconfiguration to work in this manner for an extended period of time without overheating the weapon (though this would be alleviated by keeping them in a LSW state). Thus if you solely want the LSW version of this weapon no problem would incurr. However, they may the problems if you also wish to equip this as the assault rifle for your nation.

The total cost comes to 4,600,000 Universal Standard Dollars if you still wish to aquire this weapon.
Conserative Morality
27-05-2008, 12:23
Official message from Conserative morality:
We would like to reccomend the GUR-V4 and MAR-V1 respectivly.

OOC: See my sig in thew storefront.
Minervias
27-05-2008, 21:09
Message to Minervias

the weapon's Primary role is the primary assault rifle of HuTianDi forces. Because of this, the weapon has been field tested. In battle the weapon, in standard assault rifle form, performed better than expected. This was proven in the action taken with the terrorists in our nation present after the civil war. However, the use of the weapon as a primary light support weapon, though possible, is not recommended. The weapon requires segnificant reconfiguration to work in this manner for an extended period of time without overheating the weapon (though this would be alleviated by keeping them in a LSW state). Thus if you solely want the LSW version of this weapon no problem would incurr. However, they may the problems if you also wish to equip this as the assault rifle for your nation.

The total cost comes to 4,600,000 Universal Standard Dollars if you still wish to aquire this weapon.

OFFICIAL REPORT FROM THE CENTRE OF PUBLIC ORDER IN MINERVIAS CITY



In response to the letter from the Bai Engineering conglomerate,

The weapons in question would be used strictly as light support weapons. They would not be reconfigured at any time. Therefore we believe they will work excellent in the positions we have determined for them.

The sum of 4,600,000 Universal Standard Dollars has been wired to your account. When delivering the weapons we ask you use the confirmation code "0011IUE92-737LO-BAIENG" to our customs officers to avoid any complications. Once again we thank you and hope this will bring relations between our two nations closer.
The Grand World Order
27-05-2008, 23:24
To: Minervias
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs, Trade Department, Arms Division

Enclosed is a list of the statistics of weapons from both the GWO Military Engineering Unit and Emorden-Geist Weapons Manufcaturing Corporation.

GWO Government-made weapons

Name: The MI-8 Assault Rifle/Carbine
Mechanism: Gas-operated, Rotating Bolt
Ammunition: 7.62mm NATO
Rate of Fire: 755 RPM
Muzzle Velocity: 930 m/s, or approximately 2790 feet per second ((I can't do metric/standard translations))
Feed System: 30-round Box, 100-round C-Mag, 75-round Drum, or Belt
Optics: Rail system that permits most sights, though iron sights are standard issue
Attachments?: Yes
The MI-8 Carbine was produced off of the M8/XM8 model. However, there are several obvious differences in the MI-8 variant. First and foremost is the fact that the MI-8 uses 7.62mm NATO bullets. The original M8/XM8 used 5.56mm NATO. Secondly, the MI-8 uses a rail system capable of using iron sight systems instead of only scopes, as many soldiers and police officers prefer iron sights over scopes because of their simplicity to use, durability, and low cost.

Name: The MI-P57 Pistol
Mechanism: Delayed Blowback
Ammunition: 5.7x28mm, though the Magnum variant sports 12.7mm
Rate of Fire: Semi Automatic, N/A, though the automatic variant fires at 500 RPM
Muzzle Velocity: 2000 feet per second, or 666.6 m/s ((I can't do metric/standard translations))
Feed System: 15 or 25 round magazine; Magnum variant, 8 round magazine
Optics: Iron sights, though small rail and clip systems permit lasers
Attachments?: No
The MI-P57 was designed as a "last resort" weapon that could still penetrate most armor for GWO soldiers. The Magnum variant was simply produced to increase sales among civilians, though some military officers prefer the powerful 12.7 round over the 5.7 one.

E.G.W.M.C.-made weapons

Name: The Geist Rifle, GR-1
Mechanism: Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Ammunition: 7.62 Soviet, though modern versions use NATO
Rate of Fire: 710 RPM
Muzzle Velocity: 2,820 FPS, or 940 m/s ((I can't do metric/standard translations))
Feed System: 20-round box
Optics: Rail system that permits scopes and iron sights
Attachments?: Yes
The GR-1 was produced before the Geist and Emorden Corporations merged. It was used extensively within militias loyal to Griffith (First ruler of the GWO, GRIFFITH-II is a clone of him) during the foundings of the Federation. Soon after, the Geist Corporation decided to release the GR-1A2, which was chambered for 7.62 NATO instead of 7.62 Soviet. The GR-1A2 is famous for its use as both a Designated Marksman rifle and a common Assault rifle. Today, the GR-1 and its variants are mainly retired, though they are legal for Civilian ownership in the GWO.

Name: The Emorden "Dagger" Compact Submachine Gun, ESA-4
Mechanism: Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Ammunition: .45 ACP, Mini edition with 9mm Parabellum, ESA-4A2 edition with 5.7mm
Rate of fire: 820 RPM
Muzzle Velocity: Approx 805 m/s
Feed system: 30-round box (.45 ACP), 25-round box (9mm Parabellum), 50-round box (5.7mm)
Optics: Iron sights only, though the ESA-4A2 can use lasers.
Attachments?: Mini bayonet only
The ESA-4 was the reason that Geist and Emorden merged. It was Emorden's first CQB weapon. It was produced around the same time the GR-1 was produced, and was used by special forces within the militias loyal to Griffith. When the GWO was formally established and stabilized, the Mini edition was made so that citizens could easily carry the ESA-4 with them and stop criminals easily. The ESA-4A2 was made with the creation of the MI-P57, seeing the advanced armor penetration abilities of the 5.7mm round.

We at the GWO also recommends the MP7, unmodified M8, P-90, Five Seven, and the UMP 45.


((OOC: My apologies for inaccuracies with metric-imperial conversions. Anyways, these are the weapons I can think of that meet your requirements.))