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The Resi Corporation is proud to re-introduce its top-of-the-line robotic soldiers, at reduced price!

R-Bots v1.0
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Size: 2'x1'x6.5'
Weight: 400 pounds
Composition: Titanium, iron, Kevlar, various other metals and plastics
Methods of control: Fully autonomous; can be given orders en-masse, in small groups, or individually via remote
Weapons: Dual arm-mounted continuous-fire laser rifles, non-lethal electroshocking taser hands, whatever you give them
Power Source: StarCore - essentially a tiny sun superfusion battery inside each unit
Power Duration: ~100 years. No StarCores created have yet expired, but this is the estimate.
Cost per Unit: $10,000 NSD

Please post all requests for robots in this channel. We also offer a 10% discount on every purchase of 1,000 robots or more.

OOC: 250 pounds for a massive unit powered by a fusion core and uses arm mounted lasers.

This is well beyond the scope of PMT and into FT.

But to start criticizing it...

Most Robots use heavy torque based actuators in the joints while we use contractile based muscles in our limbs. This limitation makes the joints very bulky and requires the limbs to be more heavily supported.

Explain the mechanisms behind such a machine.

(OOC: I could do that, or I could say that it was a carry-over mistake from a time when I first made these stats and cared less about realism.

If I upped it to 400 lbs, would you stop complaining in my selling thread?

Incidentally, we try to mimic the human ligament system with silksteel and nanofibers as best we can, though as you can see from the picture hydrolics are still used where this is impossible.)

OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


Dear Head of Resi Corporation

We are interested in purchasing a few to test, but we have a couple of questions regarding power:
Once their power begins to run low, what happens? and what do we do with the 'dead' bots?

President
Vladimir Burte

Belschaft MRDD (Military Research and Development Department)

A few simple questions before we even consider purchasing any of your robots.

1- How do they perform in combat situations against traditional and enhaced human troops (armed with various equipment)

2- How good is their programing - basic AI, computer drones, etc. Can they adapt as situations change?

3- What conditions can they perform in - ie: urban, jungle, polar, etc?

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As with all fusion reactions, when the StarCore runs low we theorize it will peter out as its fuel dissipates. We assume this is the case as all math and experiments done have pointed in this direction, but we have no way of knowing as no StarCores have 'died' of natural causes as of yet.

In the advent that any R-Bots 'die' of power loss, we will 'refuel' them free of charge.

Belschaft MRDD (Military Research and Development Department)

A few simple questions before we even consider purchasing any of your robots.

1- How do they perform in combat situations against traditional and enhaced human troops (armed with various equipment)

2- How good is their programing - basic AI, computer drones, etc. Can they adapt as situations change?

3- What conditions can they perform in - ie: urban, jungle, polar, etc?
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Thank you for your interest in our product, first and foremost.

In answer to your questions:
1 - The robots have bolstered resilience in firefights against human troops, and are able to long outlast any human they are pitted against. They are resistant to most shell weapons, and can simply shrug off many of the lesser calibers of bullets.
2 - The robots feature a basic cognitive feedback loop with shared intelligence and 'limits' on what they may learn, meaning a robot can learn where enemies typically hide and how to respond to this, yet it cannot learn to ask questions that impede their usefulness. Recent tests have shown them to function at 95% human intuitive capacity, a negligible difference.
3 - Urban is the ideal environment, though our robots have proved more than competent in woodland and arctic terrains. Jungles offer a variety of variables, not all of which the robot can grasp, but its resilience and immunity to the biological factors of a rainforest such as disease, hunger, and natural predation make it a solid substitute for the human soldier.

OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


We have come to the decision to purchase 20 of these bots for extensive testing. We shall post our findings up after a months testing against each other and against humans.

President
Vladimir Burte

OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


We have come to the decision to purchase 20 of these bots for extensive testing. We shall post our findings up after a months testing against each other and against humans.

President
Vladimir Burte

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Order confirmed and shipped.

Please note that our robots, by design, will be unwilling to fight each other, as such directly contradicts their programming. However, if you wish to use our machines in such a way, your best course of action would be to directly control both of the machines. While this will not test the A.I. in and of itself, it is the best we can offer you, as these robots were not designed to be used in this manner.

Belschaft MRDD (Military Research and Development Department)

We are not entirely certain you have fully understood our second question. As a combat situation changes, with perhaps civilians in the area, multiple targets and so forth can they indepently react and anaylyze the situation, or will we have to input new comands manuly? If the situation changes, will we have to change its programing?

OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


Just one question, if they are programmed not to fight each other what would happen if two nations with the bots came up against one another?
President
Vladimir Burte

Belschaft MRDD (Military Research and Development Department)

We are not entirely certain you have fully understood our second question. As a combat situation changes, with perhaps civilians in the area, multiple targets and so forth can they indepently react and anaylyze the situation, or will we have to input new comands manuly? If the situation changes, will we have to change its programing?
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We apologize for any inconvenience our incomplete response has caused you.

Every lifeform within the robot's area of operations is assigned a threat level based on individual actions - a threat level of 0 being absolutely no threat, and a threat level of 1 being a genuine threat to the robot or its mission. The threat level is determined by actions such as holding weapons, hostile body language, or actions that jeopardize the safety of anyone or anything present.

For example, an enemy soldier with a rifle that can cause minor damage to the robots, and significant damage to lifeforms, and intent to use it, is classified as a 0.8, the threshold of which lethal force is authorized - where as a lone dissident throwing rocks at the robot is classified as an 0.3, not even worthy of non-lethal force, only dangerous in the minor sense that this action may incite others as well. It is in this way that our robots are superior to the human soldier, they cannot be provoked and overreact.

This is, of course, all within the framework of their autonomous operating process. Commanders may override any of this at will, which is useful for eliminating high-profile targets that, by the nature of their positions, generally have a threat level of 0.6 or below.

Inputting new commands on an individual basis would be clunky and inefficient, at any rate. While you can do this, it is highly inadvisable and completely unnecessary in any firefight situation.

OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


Just one question, if they are programmed not to fight each other what would happen if two nations with the bots came up against one another?
President
Vladimir Burte

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Naturally, they fight.

The key here is that you are referring to two separate nations. Each country we sell these to has a code embedded in its units, to tell its robots where their loyalties lie.

Country A's robots will fight Country B's, but A-robots are by their very nature prohibited from fighting other A-robots, as they are their comrades.

OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


Would it be possible to send 10 bots with one code set, and the other 10 with another code set?
To make testing easier. We do have high hopes for these bots, but if that isn't the case, our scientists will open them up and change the coding.

President
Vladimir Burte

Belschaft MRDD (Military Research and Development Department)

We would like to purchase 10 units for initia ltesting. The amount of $100,000 has been transfered to a Resi-Corp account, and after delivery and initial testing we will report our imeadiate findings. We will test these units quite literally to their destruction.

OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


Would it be possible to send 10 bots with one code set, and the other 10 with another code set?
To make testing easier. We do have high hopes for these bots, but if that isn't the case, our scientists will open them up and change the coding.

President
Vladimir Burte
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This is acceptable, though the robots should be shipped separately to avoid any potential altercations that may occur in transit. We list the odds of this happening at roughly 3% if shipped in the same case, but would rather avoid the possibility altogether.

Belschaft MRDD (Military Research and Development Department)

We would like to purchase 10 units for initia ltesting. The amount of $100,000 has been transfered to a Resi-Corp account, and after delivery and initial testing we will report our imeadiate findings. We will test these units quite literally to their destruction.

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Units shipped.

While we have no misplaced love of our creations, we must note that intentional destruction of ResiCorp products is not covered under warranty.

Army Requisition Communication
From: General Arcta Shambles
To: Resicorp
Subject: Robotic Soldiers

Dear Resicorp,
As the general in charge of Karnigstan's offensive operations, and at the suggestion of General Conrade, who is in charge of defensive operations, we have a few questions.

1. What is the landspeed of these robotic soldiers?
2. What is their maximum weight for lifting with their arms, and how much can weight can be added to them before they cease to move or fall over?
3. Can they balance?
4. Can they operate in deserts or mountainous environments?
5. Is there a way to disable the robotic soldier without using the primary order channel, and how encrypted of channels can they use to receive orders?
6. Are they resistant to flame/heat?
7. Are they EMP resistant?

Signed,
Arcta Shambles
General of Karnigstan

OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


If that is the case, we shall ship them ourselves in two chinook transport helicopters.
We shall report our findings in about 1 month.

President
Vladimir Burte

(ooc: ill do it tomorrow lol)

Army Requisition Communication
From: General Arcta Shambles
To: Resicorp
Subject: Robotic Soldiers

Dear Resicorp,
As the general in charge of Karnigstan's offensive operations, and at the suggestion of General Conrade, who is in charge of defensive operations, we have a few questions.

1. What is the landspeed of these robotic soldiers?
2. What is their maximum weight for lifting with their arms, and how much can weight can be added to them before they cease to move or fall over?
3. Can they balance?
4. Can they operate in deserts or mountainous environments?
5. Is there a way to disable the robotic soldier without using the primary order channel, and how encrypted of channels can they use to receive orders?
6. Are they resistant to flame/heat?
7. Are they EMP resistant?

Signed,
Arcta Shambles
General of Karnigstan
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Excellent questions. Allow us to answer:
1. Assuming the robot is on foot, ~25 mph in favorable conditions.
2. Assuming the object in question is regular-shaped, as opposed to something like a piano, around 600 lbs. Robots, like people, will call others of their kind to help them before the weight of an object topples them over.
3. Yes, though they prefer not to.
4. They perform well in mountainous areas, less so in deserts due to sinking hazards. However, if kept on roads and off dunes, the robots perform just fine.
5. Yes. There is a manual off-switch inside the head casing. The robots are able to understand and interpret any channel you provide them with, and can decrypt even enemy channels, as is the nature of their cognitive feedback loop, though naturally they don't take orders from enemy channels.
6. Yes. If you douse a robot with a flamethrower it will burn but remain unaffected. If you used something like, say, one of our superheated plasma flamethrowers capable of cutting a hole in foot-thick titanium, that's another story.
7. Naturally. EMP's are, at this time, impossible to be completely shielded from, but all the robot's vital systems are protected.

(ooc: ill do it tomorrow lol)(OOC: Keep in mind these are our products, so anything too outlandish you'll have to run by me first OOC to make sure the robot is likely to do that. No robot-broke-out-of-the-lab-and-slaughtered-everyone or anything like that.)

(HAHA, noo Il mail you my findings first, they will be reasonable, just giving the facts, with no stupid twist lol)

Bump

OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


In Brief: While worthy comrades in any army, they lack the free flowing mental capability of a well trained Soldier.

After a month of extensive testing on our test sites the R-Bot has proved useful in urban situation where there is a danger to a normal soldiers life. They work best in urban warfare as opposed to anywhere else*. Work well in all but the most extreme weather and follow orders very well. Though they failed to respond to rapidly changing incidents quicker then a well trained soldier.

On a 1-1 basis, these bots are equally matched and it tends to come down to the controller coming in to play, and manually controlling them, on a 1-1 basis this is fine, but in actual combat this is not practicle.

On a 10-10 basis, we pitted the bots against one another in a sort of 'laser-tag' game, where the lasers were undamaging and they wore hit sheilds to record hits. Team A was defensive, whilst B was Offensive, in a simulated urban warzone, the results were 7-4 to Team A, meaning that they successfully defended a building, more then Team B could capture the target building.

On a 10bot-10men basis, in the same environment, (Team A Bots, Team C Soldiers) Team C defended first time round and the results were 8-3 to Team C. With Team C on the offensive and Team A defending the building, the results were 7-4 to Team A.

Evaluation: This testing shows that the R-Bots are best suited to defensive sentrys, and acting as scouts in urban areas. They can never fully replace soldiers at this stage, as they can not think quick enough for themselves, but used stratigicly alongside human soldiers they can increase combat effectiveness, and reduce the risk to your soldiers lives.

We recommend this system as defensive sentries and as urban scouts.

*We could not test on ice or snowy plains, as Burtilana is in summer and has none of these.

Head of Research,BDOTP
Dr Marcus Lovewright

What happened to your line of shiny FT warbots you used to sell?

What happened to your line of shiny FT warbots you used to sell?
(OOC: When I left and came back, I lost track of a great deal of my backstory. My nation was in a bad, and stupid place anyway - the only two characters I cared about still alive were a dangerous psychotic and a rip-off from an anime series. So, I hit the reset button and started over.

I always wanted to do something different with ResiCorp anyhow. Looking back, a lot of my characters were Mary-Sue-ish, the only real notable exception being Sara Resi, the "dangerous psychotic" mentioned above. Jai Resi, my traditional leader, fell painfully in that category, so rather than try to pretend my earlier writing was any good, I decided that I'd do it a second time around, and dammit, I'd do it right this time. :p

We'll get to the Warbots, eventually. These are supposed to be clunky and are our "first" foray into robotics.)

*is sad because of lack of shiny*

Belschaft MRDD (Military Research and Development Department)

We regret to report similar findings to Burtilana's. The robotic units were put through a series of tests and regretaably failed several.

Test 1- Damage resistance
The units were resitant to all small arms fire and even heavy machine gun rounds. However they failed to withstand disposable rocket launcer strikes, or an assault from a main battle tank. While there perfromance was better than basic infantry, it was not notably superior to enhanced human infantry and actuly infereior to our experiments in powered armour for our Future Soldier programe.

Test 2- Mobility
The units were repeadadly out manouvered by huamn infantry in all terain types tested. They also lacked the physical flexability of humans forcing them to turn fully to fire at flanking targets, a slow process. This reduced combat ability.

Test 3- Firepower
The units, while more acurate than basic humans were not signifigantly more accurate than enhanced soldiers, and can not fill as many combat roles at any one time, lacking the ability to fill multiple combat roles.

Test 4- tactical Combat Ability
In a combat situation the units were less capable than humans at reacting to changes in the area, and while cases of friendly fire were less common the tactical inflexability and slow reaction times to new and unusaual threats make this insuficent to redeem them.


For these reasons we will not be placing a largewr order. However we wish to purchase the coding from the units themselves, as their threat analysis system is superior to the one currently in our development, and we wish to use it in an airbourne combat drone we are developing.

(OOC: I take issue with the fact that neither of you consulted me for IC accuracy before you posted those reviews. That said, let's review the reviews for IC accuracy.
In Brief: While worthy comrades in any army, they lack the free flowing mental capability of a well trained Soldier.

After a month of extensive testing on our test sites the R-Bot has proved useful in urban situation where there is a danger to a normal soldiers life. They work best in urban warfare as opposed to anywhere else*. Work well in all but the most extreme weather and follow orders very well. Though they failed to respond to rapidly changing incidents quicker then a well trained soldier.
Perfectly fine and understandable. This is actually what I was going for, and, as it's my nation's first foray into robotics, it can only get better from here.

Presumably.

On a 1-1 basis, these bots are equally matched and it tends to come down to the controller coming in to play, and manually controlling them, on a 1-1 basis this is fine, but in actual combat this is not practicle.
Sure, one-on-one. You can also control them from a central console the way you would play such things as, I dunno, Starcraft. If I didn't mention this in their description I should have, and I'm almost sure I did. >_>
On a 10-10 basis, we pitted the bots against one another in a sort of 'laser-tag' game, where the lasers were undamaging and they wore hit sheilds to record hits. Team A was defensive, whilst B was Offensive, in a simulated urban warzone, the results were 7-4 to Team A, meaning that they successfully defended a building, more then Team B could capture the target building.
Fully acceptable. The things are mostly defensive anyway.

On a 10bot-10men basis, in the same environment, (Team A Bots, Team C Soldiers) Team C defended first time round and the results were 8-3 to Team C. With Team C on the offensive and Team A defending the building, the results were 7-4 to Team A.
This I take issue with. You're using laser tag lasers. The robots have heat vision and such, they'd just shoot through the damn building at the heat signatures of your soldiers.

Evaluation: This testing shows that the R-Bots are best suited to defensive sentrys, and acting as scouts in urban areas. They can never fully replace soldiers at this stage, as they can not think quick enough for themselves, but used stratigicly alongside human soldiers they can increase combat effectiveness, and reduce the risk to your soldiers lives.
Also what I was going for. On the whole a pretty decent review, for not having consulted me first.

Test 1- Damage resistance
The units were resitant to all small arms fire and even heavy machine gun rounds. However they failed to withstand disposable rocket launcer strikes, or an assault from a main battle tank. While there perfromance was better than basic infantry, it was not notably superior to enhanced human infantry and actuly infereior to our experiments in powered armour for our Future Soldier programe.
Your future-armored human soldiers can take a rocket or a tank shell to the face? Jesus Christ, that's pretty impressive.

But while you've obviously been breeding a race of the last sons of Krypton, don't you think it's a little unfair to hold my robots to those standards?

Test 2- Mobility
The units were repeadadly out manouvered by huamn infantry in all terain types tested. They also lacked the physical flexability of humans forcing them to turn fully to fire at flanking targets, a slow process. This reduced combat ability.O RLY?
I'd like to see a platoon of any kind of fully-geared human run 25 mph through city streets, flatlands, or woodlands, while maintaining formation.

Especially because the human land speed record is just over 22 mph. Huh.

Test 3- Firepower
The units, while more acurate than basic humans were not signifigantly more accurate than enhanced soldiers, and can not fill as many combat roles at any one time, lacking the ability to fill multiple combat roles.
You just plain need to elaborate here. You're making your soldiers out to be the children of God's golden genitals, and I'd like to know how your run of the mill twitchy-muscled mentally-frayed mud slogger could out-aim something that's only purpose in what you could almost call its life is shooting. Plus, the whole being-able-to-shoot-a-gun-and-arm-lasers-at-the-same-time thing is pretty nice too.

Test 4- tactical Combat Ability
In a combat situation the units were less capable than humans at reacting to changes in the area, and while cases of friendly fire were less common the tactical inflexability and slow reaction times to new and unusaual threats make this insuficent to redeem them.
The facts here are acceptable, but friendly-fire reduction got outweighed by something? You tell that to Johnny America who just got his brains shot out by Jimmy Capitalism who thought he was Al-Jaffar McJihad.

For these reasons we will not be placing a largewr order. However we wish to purchase the coding from the units themselves, as their threat analysis system is superior to the one currently in our development, and we wish to use it in an airbourne combat drone we are developing.And THAT would be copyright infringement, if you used the code in the way you plan to. Same reason I can't lift 20 pages from a novel by Dickens and sell it off as my own work.

Resi out. Oh, and BUMP.)

(OOC: I take issue with the fact that neither of you consulted me for IC accuracy before you posted those reviews. That said, let's review the reviews for IC accuracy.)


(OOC: Sorry I would have done, but you have set your settings so that you can't receive private messeges, btw check out 1st draft design of the Mammoth plasma tank)

(OOC: Sorry I would have done, but you have set your settings so that you can't receive private messeges, btw check out 1st draft design of the Mammoth plasma tank)
(OOC: Meh, just do it with NS telegrams in the future. That's what I've used for over five years now. :P )

(OOC: Ive added you to my dossier for future reference lol)

OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


In light of out recent testing, we would like to purchase a further 80 R-Bots v1.0, which will come to $800,000. We hope to create strong ties with your nation, espescially with our new systems using your technology, and hope that this helps. They will be used to help defend Embassy Tower.

President
Vladimir Burte

(OOC: I take issue with the fact that neither of you consulted me for IC accuracy before you posted those reviews. That said, let's review the reviews for IC accuracy.

Perfectly fine and understandable. This is actually what I was going for, and, as it's my nation's first foray into robotics, it can only get better from here.

Presumably.


Sure, one-on-one. You can also control them from a central console the way you would play such things as, I dunno, Starcraft. If I didn't mention this in their description I should have, and I'm almost sure I did. >_>

Fully acceptable. The things are mostly defensive anyway.


This I take issue with. You're using laser tag lasers. The robots have heat vision and such, they'd just shoot through the damn building at the heat signatures of your soldiers.


Also what I was going for. On the whole a pretty decent review, for not having consulted me first.


Your future-armored human soldiers can take a rocket or a tank shell to the face? Jesus Christ, that's pretty impressive.

But while you've obviously been breeding a race of the last sons of Krypton, don't you think it's a little unfair to hold my robots to those standards?

O RLY?
I'd like to see a platoon of any kind of fully-geared human run 25 mph through city streets, flatlands, or woodlands, while maintaining formation.

Especially because the human land speed record is just over 22 mph. Huh.


You just plain need to elaborate here. You're making your soldiers out to be the children of God's golden genitals, and I'd like to know how your run of the mill twitchy-muscled mentally-frayed mud slogger could out-aim something that's only purpose in what you could almost call its life is shooting. Plus, the whole being-able-to-shoot-a-gun-and-arm-lasers-at-the-same-time thing is pretty nice too.


The facts here are acceptable, but friendly-fire reduction got outweighed by something? You tell that to Johnny America who just got his brains shot out by Jimmy Capitalism who thought he was Al-Jaffar McJihad.

And THAT would be copyright infringement, if you used the code in the way you plan to. Same reason I can't lift 20 pages from a novel by Dickens and sell it off as my own work.

Resi out. Oh, and BUMP.)


OOC- ok sos for not consulting. but -

1- no they can't. but neither can your robots. both my armour nd your robots are resistant to machine gun fire and the first rocket strike. but in bhoth cases bryond that they're fucked.

2- i was refering to ability to handle the terain. sure the robots are faster. but if they come across a smashed up building, how good are they at making thery're way through the ruble? and what about climbing? can they climb? no, not from looking at your picture.

3- this is PMT. i'm talking about humans modified on the celluar level, using gentic enhancement as well as cybernetic structure being added on top, replacing weaker parts of the body. jesus man, if yopu can build a fusion reactor then i can build a supersoldier. as for the gun/laser think, yeah thats good. but can the robots fit in an APC? how about a jeep? can they jump out a plane? no to all cases. and then, sure they got a laser and a gun. But what if they come up against a tank? can they whip a rocket launcer of they're back and fire, before putting it away and going back to their rifle? i'm not talking about simple firepower, but the ability to fullfill multiple combat roles.

4- maybee, but blue on blue fire isn't my biggest worry.



as for the last one, thats why i was asking if i could purchase the coding. its not copyright if i have permision.

As this offer does seem interesting there seems to be a few major flaws with the actual physical capabilities of the units. However, we would like to purchase 15 units for testing purposes only, and will contact you if we have any further questions.

Signed,
President John Smith