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Burtilanian Navy Competition...

Burtilana
20-05-2008, 18:42
The United Socialist States of Burtilana is looking for 2 full aircraft carriers, and in our search we ask the world to offer us something, our own designers haven't been successful, and would like to offer the contract to an overseas contractor.

Our requirements are seen below:
at least 35 knots p/hour
must be capable of carrying 10 STOVL aircraft and 10 helicopters
powered by a nuclear reactor

This may be a tough challenge, but I think that someone in the world can do it!
Due to out military budget of over a trillion US$, we are willing to set aside $28Billion for the two craft
Many Thanks

President Vladimir Burte
(temporary Head of MoD)
Burtilana
20-05-2008, 21:02
bumpidy bump:D
Leafanistan
20-05-2008, 21:17
OOC: 35 knots for a small carrier is going to be fun.
Burtilana
20-05-2008, 21:23
OOC: 35 knots for a small carrier is going to be fun.

OOC: I did say at least, faster the better
Leafanistan
20-05-2008, 21:43
OOC: I did say at least, faster the better

My submission will undergo peer review, but rest assured, people are building your ship.
1010102
20-05-2008, 22:41
OOC: I did say at least, faster the better

OOC: He means that to get that kind of speed on anything other than a small destroyer or frigate will be very hard.
Tolvan
20-05-2008, 23:34
OOC: A 35 knot+ carrier is pretty impractical. All the space and resources you waste making go that fast would be better spent upgrading weapons, sensors, or air wing size. Plus, at 35 knots you start to outrun your escorts, not a good thing for a carrier.
Imbrinium
21-05-2008, 00:52
35 knots isn't that fast for a aircraft carrier the nimitz top speed is classified but it will do 30+ knots and its a supercarrier.

the buyer wants at least 35+ knots doesnt say if thats max speed or a burst speed. i would have to say 35+ knots fora cruising speed would not be practical but max or get out of town speed its do able
1010102
21-05-2008, 01:00
35 knots isn't that fast for a aircraft carrier the nimitz top speed is classified but it will do 30+ knots and its a supercarrier

The top speed is probably like 31-32 knots. 35 is a very big stretch, considering your looking at a ship that displaces over 100,000 tons.
Imbrinium
21-05-2008, 01:11
i've got a couple of designs you may want to see. none have the ramp at the end is that a deal breaker?
Imbrinium
21-05-2008, 01:22
the uss intrepid cv 11 from WW2 could do 33knots in 1943. so why couldn't a nuclear carrier go 35knots
1010102
21-05-2008, 01:40
the uss intrepid cv 11 from WW2 could do 33knots in 1943. so why couldn't a nuclear carrier go 35knots

That ship displaces a third as much weight as the Nimitz.
Imbrinium
21-05-2008, 01:56
Builder Newport News Shipbuilding Co., Newport News, Va.
Power Plant Two Nuclear Power Plant (A4W Pressurized Water Reactor)
Four shafts, Four propellers, with five blades each
Length, overall 1,092 feet (332.85 meters)
Flight Deck Width 252 feet (76.8 meters)
Beam 134 feet (40.84 meters)
Displacement Approx. 97,000 tons (87,300 metric tons) full load
Speed 30+ knots (34.5+ miles per hour)
Aircraft 85
Aircraft elevators Four
Catapults Four
Crew Ship's Company: 3,200
Air Wing: 2,480

off of the FAS website nimitz class
1010102
21-05-2008, 02:02
Builder Newport News Shipbuilding Co., Newport News, Va.
Power Plant Two Nuclear Power Plant (A4W Pressurized Water Reactor)
Four shafts, Four propellers, with five blades each
Length, overall 1,092 feet (332.85 meters)
Flight Deck Width 252 feet (76.8 meters)
Beam 134 feet (40.84 meters)
Displacement Approx. 97,000 tons (87,300 metric tons) full load
Speed 30+ knots (34.5+ miles per hour)
Aircraft 85
Aircraft elevators Four
Catapults Four
Crew Ship's Company: 3,200
Air Wing: 2,480

off of the FAS website nimitz class


OOC: With that logic, I could successfuly argue that the Nimitz can sail at speeds of 35,000,000 knots. Its more than 30 knots, right?
Imbrinium
21-05-2008, 02:06
look for yourself

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/cvn-68.htm
Greston
21-05-2008, 02:29
CVG-1 "Burte" class aircraft carrier

Crew: 500 officers, 1,900 enlisted
Length: 990 ft
Beam: 132 ft
Draft: 39 ft
Displacement: 75,000 tons
Range: 9,500 nautical miles at 20 knots
Speed: 34 knot max, 16 knot cruise for best effiecency
Cost: ?

20x VSTOL
20x Fixed Wing
10x Helicopter

2x Buk-M1 SAM
2x MBDA Aster 15
2x MBDA Aster 30

Description

The Burte class carrier (CVG-1) was a design made to fulfill requirements to a foreign naval compitition in which the maximum speed had to be 35 knots. To reach the said goal it was given to steam turbines to boost the nuclear reactors force.

Armaments

Like any formidable aircraft carrier it has its aircrafts to the dirtywork. But to help matain a safe enviroment the Burte class has two Buk-M1 SAM guns mounted to it as well as two MBDA Aster 15's, medium range AA missiles, and two MBDA Aster 30's, long range AA guns.

Air Wing

Along with the main specifications it was persistant that the ship have an aviation wing which could hold 20 fixed wing, and 20 STOVL aircraft and as well as 10 helicopters.

The Burte has an angled deck for an easier take off. The VTOL operations and tall main deckhouse are located on the starboard side. It has one launch pad to launch VTOL aircraft off an angled deck.

There is a second large deckhouse and command room to help coordinate that hull's aircraft and has the main catapult off to the hull for fixed wing aircrafts. The main command room stands above the fixed wing catupult area and serves as a command center for both the ship and its fighters.

Radar Systems

AN/SPG-60 radar
AN/SPG-62 illuminator
AN/SPS-49 air search radar
AN/SPS-73 surface search radar
AN/SPY-1 radar
AN/SPY-2 radar
AN/SPY-3 radar
Leafanistan
21-05-2008, 02:36
CVG-1 "Burte" class aircraft carrier

Crew: 500 officers, 1,900 enlisted
Length: 990 ft
Beam: 132 ft
Draft: 39 ft
Displacement: 75,000 tons
Range: 9,500 nautical miles at 20 knots
Speed: 34 knot max, 16 knot cruise for best effiecency

20x Fixed Wing on the port hull
20x V/STOL and 10x Helicopters on starboard hull

2x Buk-M1 SAM
2x MBDA Aster 15
2x MBDA Aster 30

Description

The Burte class carrier (CVG-1) was a design made to fulfill requirements to a foreign naval compitition in which the maximum speed had to be 35 knots. To reach the said goal it was given to steam turbines to boost the nuclear reactors force.

Armaments

Like any formidable aircraft carrier it has its aircrafts to the dirtywork. But to help matain a safe enviroment the Burte class has two Buk-M1 SAM guns mounted to it as well as two MBDA Aster 15's, medium range AA missiles, and two MBDA Aster 30's, long range AA guns.

Air Wing

Along with the main specifications it was persistant that the ship have an aviation wing which could hold 20 fixed wing, and 20 STOVL aircraft and as well as 10 helicopters.

The Burte has an angled deck for an easier take off. The VTOL operations and tall main deckhouse are located on the starboard side. It has one short steam catapult to launch VTOL aircraft off an angled deck.

There is a smaller deckhouse to help coordinate that hull's aircraft and has the main catapult off to the hull for fixed wing aircrafts.

Radar Systems

AN/SPG-60 radar
AN/SPG-62 illuminator
AN/SPS-49 air search radar
AN/SPS-73 surface search radar
AN/SPY-1 radar
AN/SPY-2 radar
AN/SPY-3 radar

Anyone else feels this sounds very similar to my draftroom post of:

History and Abstract

Sung Heavy Industrial Concern's Military Projects Division's entry into the Burtilanian Navy's competition for a small fleet carrier. To meet the MPD's foreign requirements the catamaran design was chosen along with a pump-jet propulsion system and a CONAS system. The resulting ship could do a 35 knot sprint and impressed some personnel in the Glorious Republican Navy. Two have been acquired for trials.

Description

The Burly class is a Catamaran Small Fleet Carrier that contains a nuclear engine and a steam boost turbine in each hull to help drive the ship to its maximum sprint of 35 knots. For its construction and to help maintain this large speed, it is mostly made out of aluminum in a hexagonal matrix throughout the ship, resulting in the hexagon bulkheads.

Armament

The primary armament of any aircraft carrier is its aircraft and the Burly is no different. With no large guns of its own the Burly class has instead 4 Phalanx CIWS guns, 2 on each hull, 2 Bofors 57mm Mark 3 Automatic CIWS guns with programmable ammunition and a fire rate of 220 rpm, perfect for shredding incoming large missiles, aircraft, helicopters and even small boats. Finally to complete the CIWS armament are two RIM-116 RAM antimissile missile launchers, one on each side of the bridge.

Aviation Wing

The Burly class was designed from the start to carry 20 fixed wing aircraft to launch off an angled deck (the Su-33), 20 VTOL aircraft (the Yak-141 Freestyle) and 10 helicopters (the Ka-27).

The starboard hull is designed to handle mostly VTOL operations and contains the tall main deckhouse. It has one short steam catapult to launch VTOL aircraft off an angled deck.

On the port hull there is a smaller deckhouse to help coordinate that hull's aircraft and has the main catapult on the Burly class. This is where the fixed wing aircraft are stored and launched.

Sensor Suite

The ship has a D/E band air and surface target acquisition RADAR, an F band surface search RADAR, G/H band flight control RADAR, I band navigation RADAR, and four K band fire control RADAR for the CIWS guns.

For SONAR the ship mounts a hull-mounted search and attack SONAR, operating in the medium- and low-frequency bands, is capable of detecting torpedoes and submarines. The ship holds at the rear a large complement of 60mm mortars to launch SONAR decoys and holds some 30 such expendable decoys on each hull.

For safety the ship has a towed array on the port hull to distract enemy torpedoes.

However the primary sensor suite of the ship will be its AWACS aircraft and helicopters. Anti-submarine warfare aircraft are equipped with surface search radar, dipping sonar, sonobuoys, and magnetic anomaly detectors.

Specifications

Crew: 1,500
Length: 215m
Beam: 75m
Draft: 8m
Displacement: 67,000 tons
Speed: 35 knot sprint, 14 knot most efficient cruise
Range: Theoretically infinite, but for sprint limited by fuel for steam boilers

Armament

Guns: 4x 20mm Phalanx CIWS guns, 2x Bofors 57mm Mark 3 CIWS guns
Missile: 2x 21 RIM-116 RAM box launcher

Aviation Wing

20x Fixed Wing on the port hull
20x V/STOL and 10x Helicopters on starboard hull

Cost: $2.8 billion
Tolvan
21-05-2008, 05:25
the uss intrepid cv 11 from WW2 could do 33knots in 1943. so why couldn't a nuclear carrier go 35knots

OOC: The Nimitz class is only capable of such high speeds on their trial runs, where they sailing light (no planes, ammo, aviation fuel, or air wing) and they have clean hulls. Barnacles begin to accumulate quickly after ship's launch and slow them down quite a bit.

Of course, a 35+ knot carrier still has no real practical use. It would be much more expensive than a regular one, require more maintenance, you'd also have to have faster escorts (more costs), and all you get in the end is slightly shorter response times to trouble spots, not worth the costs IMO.
Burtilana
21-05-2008, 09:38
OOC: He means that to get that kind of speed on anything other than a small destroyer or frigate will be very hard.

My Nation's navy is trying to create a small fast assault fleet that can react to an incident quickly.
I have realised that, from my scientists, that my specs are a bit extreme, so I will redraft this, keeping the speed, but reducing the other specs.

President Burte
Burtilana
21-05-2008, 10:14
i've got a couple of designs you may want to see. none have the ramp at the end is that a deal breaker?

I would like to see your designs.
Burtilana
21-05-2008, 14:58
BuMp
Questers
21-05-2008, 16:09
Bah, nuclear power...

Ark Royal Class (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13225947&postcount=5) - 33kts, 96 fixed wing/4HELO (although OFC, you can swap them out to have any config you want... you could even have 20 HELOs if you reduce the right amount of fixed wing planes)
Battle Class Escort Carrier (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13225929&postcount=3) - 33 kts, 48 fixed wing/3 HELO (again you can swap out to suit your own conditions.)

I have three other designs I could submit but they're not nuclear. -.-
Burtilana
21-05-2008, 16:30
Can any companies create ships to our new specifications? We want these vessels to be as small as possible...

Thanks
Head of the Burtilanian Navy
Admiral Luke Santaz
President
Vladimir Burte
Third Spanish States
21-05-2008, 16:35
You could just claim you have Kitty Hawks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Kitty_Hawk_%28CV-63%29) if you don't mind the fact they are more than 40 years old.

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I have something to offer though, it can reach more than 35 knots on optimal circumstances.

CC Oso Class Cruiser-Carrier

Displacement: 50,000 tons full load
Length: 293.7m
Length at waterline: 281.71m
Beam:33.64m
Draft: 10.32m
Block Coefficient: 0.498
Flight Deck Width: 54.69m
Propulsion: 4-shaft CONAS, 240,000 shp
Cruise Speed: 64 km/h (34.5 knots)
Maximum Speed: 68 km/h (36.7 knots)
Range on Maximum Speed: 6,200 km
Speed on auxiliary boilers: 25 km/h
Range at auxiliary boilers: Essentially unlimited
Endurance: 45 days
Radar Range: 1,200km
Sonar Range: 40km
Aviation facilities: Abbreviated angled aft flight deck with thermal dissipating reinforcements
Flight Deck Capacity(Standard load):
-30 F-35Bs or CL-32As (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=2394)
-4 Kamov Ka-28s or EH-101s
Armament:
-5 RIM-116 Sea RAM (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/ram.htm) launchers, 22 cells each(110 missiles).
-40 cells SMP VLS armed with:
RIM-162D ESSM SAM(40 quad-packed missiles)
ASROC Anti-submarine(10 missiles)
SM-6 ERAM Standard Missile(20 missiles)
Cost:3,250,000,000
Leafanistan
21-05-2008, 17:25
Sung Heavy Industrial Concern

Hello <client>!

We present to you, for your consideration, the Burly class Light Fleet Carrier. We feel that we have satisfied the contract in full, by offering what you have considered, at an affordable price. Please consider us heavily for your contract.

[END]

History and Abstract

Sung Heavy Industrial Concern's Military Projects Division's entry into the Burtilanian Navy's competition for a small fleet carrier. To meet the MPD's foreign requirements the catamaran design was chosen along with a CONAS system. The resulting ship could do a 35 knot sprint and impressed some personnel in the Glorious Republican Navy. Two have been acquired for trials.

Description

The Burly class is a Catamaran Small Fleet Carrier that contains a nuclear engine and a steam boost turbine in each hull to help drive the ship to its maximum sprint of 35 knots. For its construction and to help maintain this large speed, it is mostly made out of aluminum, despite flammability concerns in a hexagonal matrix throughout the ship, resulting in the hexagon bulkheads, a design feature carried over from the shipping containers Sung Heavy Industrial Concern is more noted for.

To compensate for the potential of the hull catching fire, a ship wide fire suppression system has been included with large fire extinguishers at every door and wide passage, a massive sea water intake valve for the sprinkler system, and self-sealing doors in case of fire.

Armament

The primary armament of any aircraft carrier is its aircraft and the Burly is no different. With no large guns of its own the Burly class has instead 4 Phalanx CIWS guns, 2 on each hull, 2 Bofors 57mm Mark 3 Automatic CIWS guns with programmable ammunition and a fire rate of 220 rpm, perfect for shredding incoming large missiles, aircraft, helicopters and even small boats. Finally to complete the CIWS armament are two RIM-116 RAM antimissile missile launchers, one on each side of the bridge.

Aviation Wing

The Burly class was designed from the start to carry 20 fixed wing aircraft to launch off an angled deck (the Su-33), 20 VTOL aircraft (the Yak-141 Freestyle) and 10 helicopters (the Ka-27).

The starboard hull is designed to handle mostly VTOL operations and contains the tall main deckhouse. It has one short steam catapult to launch VTOL aircraft off an angled deck.

On the port hull there is a smaller deckhouse to help coordinate that hull's aircraft and has the main catapult on the Burly class. This is where the fixed wing aircraft are stored and launched.

The helicopters are split between both hulls.

Sensor Suite

The ship has a D/E band air and surface target acquisition RADAR, an F band surface search RADAR, G/H band flight control RADAR, I band navigation RADAR, and four K band fire control RADAR for the CIWS guns.

For SONAR the ship mounts a hull-mounted search and attack SONAR, operating in the medium- and low-frequency bands, is capable of detecting torpedoes and submarines. The ship holds at the rear a large complement of 60mm mortars to launch SONAR decoys and holds some 30 such expendable decoys on each hull.

For safety the ship has a towed array on the port hull to distract enemy torpedoes.

However the primary sensor suite of the ship will be its AWACS aircraft and helicopters. Anti-submarine warfare aircraft are equipped with surface search radar, dipping sonar, sonobuoys, and magnetic anomaly detectors.

Specifications

Crew: 1,500
Length: 215m
Beam: 75m
Draft: 8m
Displacement: 67,000 tons
Speed: 35 knot sprint, 14 knot most efficient cruise
Range: Theoretically infinite, but for sprint limited by fuel for steam boilers

Armament

Guns: 4x 20mm Phalanx CIWS guns, 2x Bofors 57mm Mark 3 CIWS guns
Missile: 2x 21 RIM-116 RAM box launcher

Aviation Wing

20x Fixed Wing and 5x Helicopters on port hull
20x V/STOL and 5x Helicopters on starboard hull

Cost: $2.8 billion
Imbrinium
22-05-2008, 01:38
Trilon Defense Inc.
To: Puabi Ninbanda
From: Artemio Trentino, director of foreign sales and services.

I have my proposal team put together a quick proposal for you these models that are in this proposal are finished models but can be fitted to meet your needs and specs. Please take the time and look at this proposal and let us know what you think. The link is to your proposal on our company’s website.

Thank you for your time,

Artemio Trentino
Director of foreign sales and services

Burtilana navy carrier bid:

Trilon’s defense design team has put proposal together for your nation. Please TG or contact this office with any comments about you proposal. link to your proposal.
http://www.phpbbplanet.com/grimreaper6/viewtopic.php?p=22&mforum=grimreaper6#22
New Chalcedon
22-05-2008, 01:43
TAG for interest.

10 STOLs and 10 helis doesn't sound like mcuh...should be easy to exceed that limit.
Burtilana
22-05-2008, 01:48
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


Trilon Defense Inc.
To: Puabi Ninbanda
From: Artemio Trentino, director of foreign sales and services.

I have my proposal team put together a quick proposal for you these models that are in this proposal are finished models but can be fitted to meet your needs and specs. Please take the time and look at this proposal and let us know what you think. The link is to your proposal on our company’s website.

Thank you for your time,

Artemio Trentino
Director of foreign sales and services

Burtilana navy carrier bid:

Trilon’s defense design team has put proposal together for your nation. Please TG or contact this office with any comments about you proposal. link to your proposal.
http://www.phpbbplanet.com/grimreaper6/viewtopic.php?p=22&mforum=grimreaper6#22

We are quie interested in the CVX 20 and the CVX 80 (OOC: top 2 ships) could you give us any figures?
Much obliged

President
Vladimir Burte
Head of the Burtilanian Navy
High Admiral Luke Santaz
Burtilana
22-05-2008, 01:53
TAG for interest.

10 STOLs and 10 helis doesn't sound like mcuh...should be easy to exceed that limit.


No it isn't alot, but we want: (quoted from our Government website) a new fast, small and light Fleet of 16 ships this is to respond to incidents quickly. My designers have designed 2 submarines and 6 frigates, but were struggling with the 2 carriers we want.

Head of the Burtilanian Navy
High Admiral Luke Santaz
Imbrinium
22-05-2008, 03:03
The CVX project soon will the back bone of the Imbrinium Navy. The Imbrinium navy has ordered 4 CVX 20s and 3 CVX 80s and 2 CVX 100s. to be build over the next 15yrs. The CVX 20 in which your nation’s navy has requested information about is as follows:

12.7 billion per ship without aircraft
800 feet long
4 catapults
4 aircraft lifts
2 nuclear power plants
Top speed 34 knots burst speed 36 knots for a short time.
40 aircraft max

CVX 80
16.8 billion per ship without aircraft
1,200 feet long
4 catapults
4 aircraft lifts
4 nuclear power plants
Top speed 33 knots with a burst speed of 35.5 for a short time
60 aircraft

More information:

Integrated Information System
Supports the transfer and integration of voice, video and data information between audio, video and computer sys-tems. Key features will include common and standard operating systems, network functions, communication protocols, interfaces and message structure. The system will capitalize upon advances in commercial industry.

Fiber-Optic Backbone
Single, integrated, commercial and military standard compliant physical grid supporting communications between systems/equipment via fiber-optic cables and electric-to-optic conversion devices. Key feature is providing end-to-end connections using ruggedized commercial off-the-shelf components.

Zonal Electric Distribution System
Open system architecture DC electrical distribution with standard interfaces between components. Power conversion and conditioning are performed locally from a single shipwide DC electrical power bus to provide each end user the type/quality of power required. DC power allows for solid state control, which achieves power continuity in case of a fault and provides for near-instantaneous recovery from power interruptions. In addition to the survivability benefits inherent in uninterrupted power, this system is anticipated to be easier to install, require less physical cabling and pro-vide greater flexibility for ship upgrades than current electrical systems.

Multifunctional Embedded Antennas
Reconfigurable, multiple apertures electronically combined to provide an antenna tunable across wide frequency band-width and sensitivity parameters. The apertures may be embedded in composite materials integral to the ship structure and may include combined or separate transmit and receive modules. Reduction of the number of antenna systems for commu-nications and radars provides potential to improve performance by avoiding antenna blockages, reducing the structure required to support antenna placement, life-cycle costs and maintenance manpower requirements.

Modified Island Structure
The island’s configuration, function and materials will be designed to satisfy aircraft support functions while minimizing its impact on ship control and flight deck operations. Potential benefits are reduced air disturbances caused on the flight deck by the island, more efficient flight deck arrangements and reduced radar and infrared signature characteristics.

New Concepts for CVX

Alternative Energy Catapults
Electromagnetic Catapults: A launch-assist mechanism which will propel the aircraft to takeoff velocity using a trav-eling electromagnetic wave produced by a linear motor. When compared to current steam driven catapults, the electro-magnetic launcher will provide the following benefits: independence from the ship’s propulsion plant, a 50-percent reduction in weight and 65-percent reduction in volume, an increase in energy capacity with a highly controllable acceleration and deceleration profile, an increase in reliability and availability, and a 30-percent decrease in manpower required. This technology is similar to that used to propel high-speed “bullet” trains in other countries and may be used on the next generation of roller coasters.

Internal Combustion Catapults:
A launch-assist mechanism utilizing liquid propellant as the energy source instead of steam. Benefits include elimination of steam system components; and reduced weight, airframe stresses and mainten-ance. This technology is similar to that used in automotive air bags.

Ski Jumps
An upward-sloped ramp at the forward end of the flight deck which will provide aircraft with a more optimum fly-away angle. This translates into benefits such as reduced takeoff velocity, increased payload capacity and reduced wind-over-deck requirements.

Automated Weapon Selection and Movement
Integrated family of procedures, magazine design, weapons elevators, passageway layout, information management systems, decision aids and reduced manpower ordnance-handling equipment to increase weapons’ throughput, increase sortie generation rates and minimize risks associated with ordnance handling and stowage.

Advanced Systems for Flight Operations Management
Family of information management and decision aids to facilitate mission planning, aircraft control, aircraft/pilot information upload and download, aircraft turnaround and aircraft launch and recovery. May include a family of high-performance, integrated aviation work centers along with several pit stop-type aircraft servicing stations strategically positioned about the ship. Benefits include: improved aviation safety, significant manning reduction, increased sortie generation rate, flight deck optimization, reduced aircraft support equipment, more efficient maintenance and built-in servicing and support flexibility for follow-on generations of aircraft.
Leafanistan
22-05-2008, 03:48
OOC: This is some nice stuff, how about some other stats like displacement, beam, draft, and crew requirements. Because this is an expensive looking ship I might have to acquire.
Imbrinium
22-05-2008, 04:21
more stats on which ship?
Leafanistan
22-05-2008, 04:27
more stats on which ship?

OOC: Preferably all of them, but if not then just the ones you posted.
Imbrinium
22-05-2008, 04:34
for all that could take some time to draw up, i have some but not all of them i almost complete with the cvx stats
Lamoni
22-05-2008, 08:17
While it may be larger than you want, I am offering the Solidarity Class CVN for this competition:

http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=3223
Burtilana
22-05-2008, 10:33
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


Imbrinium,
Do I understand correctly that the CVX 80 is essentially a larger version of the CVX 20?
If so i am definatly interested in the CVX 20 for our new fleet.

Head of the Burtilanian Navy
High Admiral Luke Santaz
Imbrinium
22-05-2008, 16:04
Burtilanian Naval Command
High Admiral Luke Santaz

Yes sir the CVX80 400 ft longer than the CVX 20. The CVX 80 can carry both STOL, and convential carrier based aircraft. where as in the CVX 20 is a STOL,VTOL carrier. Please fill free to ask any other questions if you have them.
Burtilana
22-05-2008, 16:24
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


We call this competition to a close
In this competition there have been many great and capable carriers, but few to match our specifications. Out of these few we have found one that fits the bills pretty neatly...

We congratulate The Kingdom of Imbrinium
Their proposal was the most suited to our needs.
We offer the sum of $28Billion for 2x CVX 20s (without aircraft) the left over funds being prize money.
We shall wire the funds now.

Head of the Burtilanian Navy
High Admiral Luke Santaz
Imbrinium
22-05-2008, 20:13
Head of the Burtilanian Navy
High Admiral Luke Santaz

Trilon defense Inc. is overwhelmed with joy that you have chosen the CVX-20 as your new carrier systems. Production on your new carriers will start at once both will be started at the same time and should be finished about the same time. Production will take about 24 to 33 months depending on delays. The sum of both the carriers is 25.4 billion with 26 million left over with this your government has a choice you can spend it on sub system upgrades, aircraft or weapon systems, etc. We cannot accept over payment due to the fact of Imbrinium law forbids it due to fact we have large contracts with them. So if there are any other systems you need or want please fill free to contact this office. Once again thank you for choosing Trilon Defense inc. for your nations defense needs.

Artemio Trentino
Director of foreign sales and services
Burtilana
22-05-2008, 20:20
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


Head of the Burtilanian Navy
High Admiral Luke Santaz

Trilon defense Inc. is overwhelmed with joy that you have chosen the CVX-20 as your new carrier systems. Production on your new carriers will start at once both will be started at the same time and should be finished about the same time. Production will take about 24 to 33 months depending on delays. The sum of both the carriers is 25.4 billion with 26 million left over with this your government has a choice you can spend it on sub system upgrades, aircraft or weapon systems, etc. We cannot accept over payment due to the fact of Imbrinium law forbids it due to fact we have large contacts with them. So if there are any other systems you need or want please fill free to contact this office. Once again thank you for choosing Trilon Defense inc. for your nations defense needs.

Artemio Trentino
Director of foreign sales and services

Ok that is fair enough, can you reccomend anything to spend the 26 million on? This can be anythig of your choosing.

President
Vladimir Burte
Leafanistan
22-05-2008, 20:25
OOC: Curses!

Can I send an assassin to get revenge for the very jealous Mr. Sung? Like one to Imbrinium to kill Mr. Artemio Trentino?
Burtilana
22-05-2008, 20:30
OOC: lol


OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


My higher ranking naval commanders were contemplating on buying one of your vessels for the elite BSF to use in their force.

Head of the Burtilanian Navy
High Admiral Luke Santaz
Burtilana
22-05-2008, 20:38
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA



RE: Burly class Light Fleet Carrier

The only thing that stopped us using it for our new fleet was the fire hazzard, we felt our usual sailors would be more prone to catching the ship alight. Though we liked it enough to include it in the BSF's fleet.

After much persuasion I managed to secure $3 billion for you to build one of these Burly class carriers for us.

Head of the Burtilanian Navy
High Admiral Luke Santaz
Leafanistan
22-05-2008, 20:41
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA



RE: Burly class Light Fleet Carrier

The only thing that stopped us using it for our new fleet was the fire hazzard, we felt our usual sailors would be more prone to catching the ship alight. Though we liked it enough to include it in the BSF's fleet.

After much persuasion I managed to secure $3 billion for you to build one of these Burly class carriers for us.

Head of the Burtilanian Navy
High Admiral Luke Santaz

OOC: All Aluminum hulled ships are vulnerable to fire, but they are far lighter and with effective fire suppression teams, you can take care of it. Besides if your carrier is getting shot you're doing something wrong.

Sung Heavy Industrial Concern's Defense Concern

We thank High Admiral Luke Santaz and will immediately begin construction of one of the carriers.

Expect delivery in 12-18 months pending construction estimates.

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Imbrinium
22-05-2008, 20:56
Head of the Burtilanian Navy
High Admiral Luke Santaz

Trilon Defense inc will sell the Burtilanian Naval command two stol E-6 Eagle eye mk2carrier base Awacs. These planes are in production and can be delivered right away. They can be used on convential or stol air carriers. This will allow your navy peek protection from incoming aircraft and missiles. A training team will be sent to hand deliver both planes and help in training the crews, and maintance personal. I hope you enjoy your products and if there is anything you need please contact this office. Please keep us in mind about all your defense needs. Thank you

Artemio Trentino
Director of foreign sales and services

E-6 Eagle eye mk2
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg16/grimreaper061/Kingdom%20of%20Imbrinium%20NS/Airforce/csa-ts0036-12-01_5.jpg
Burtilana
23-05-2008, 02:15
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


We thank you for the 'craft and the training they shall go on our older Carriers.

Head of the Burtilanian Navy
High Admiral Luke Santaz