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Everything's OOC here. Alright, the basis of Sygmir's history is that they are completely surrounded by enemies. Their entire border is a no-mans-land guarded by the military on both sides. Being a militant nation, they have decided to take the fight to them, ending the stalemate. I'm looking for at least one nation to RP an enemy and anybody who wants to join in can. FYI, there are no ACTUAL nations that I have a history of war with. It's all made up by me.

Originally Posted by imported_ViZion View Post
Pro Sygmir
Imbrinium (South)
Nonvarian Republics (Northeast)

Against Sygmir
Lythia (Directly South)
New Lutana (East)
Ustio North (Elsewhere)

3rd Party
ViZion - Humanitarian Aid (Elsewhere)
The Grand World Order - Own Accord; slightly against Sygmir (Southwest)

(Can't figure out how to post the map...)

Alright now, can't do this alone. Must. Get people. Interested.
HEEEELP!

-TAG for Interest-
OOC: Note that some times it may take a day or several hours to drum up some interest, so give it a little time. ;) Also, do you happen to have a map, or are able to get one up? If not, please describle your nation so people know what they're looking at...

I haven't actually figured out how big it is, but it's pretty dang small. Geography is a semi-circular mountain range surround a pocket of small villages and one small (miniscule, tiny) city right in the middle. Mostly forested hills, lots of wildlife, cheap dirt roads. Hell on tanks mostly, but light armor can move through pretty quick. Sygmir pretty much ends where you get to the mountains, which is where the enemy has set up on the major passes. These are short mountains too, very few snowcaps, but very steep and rocky.

Bump. Some people are reading this, but no one is answering. If you see something I can/should change, say so. This is first RP on NS, guys. N00b requirez help plz.

I'll help, what should I do?

OOC: I could send some relief, what are your enemies named?

OOC:The back story is, there a four countries surrounding this pocket valley, and have been for X amount of years. There is an incredibly fierce rivalry between the four nations, but they all band together throughout history to crush the nation in the valley(me). The two reasons Fief Sygmir is here at all are these: We are descending from crusader knights and soldiers and the natural geography is practically designed and built for the defender. Most probably, it's the reason we ended up here. In response to Greal, there are no real nations attacking me, I'm looking for at least one player to RP one of the enemy nations, if not four, though I don't think I can take four alone, but Baron Sygmir is relying on outside support.

Whoops, forgot something. As stated in another post, fifteen years ago, the four nations came crashing down on us, and some nation came down like angels from heaven, fought them off for us, trained us and gave us weapons. Again, made up nation. Oh, and before this happened, Sygmir was still a small fiefdom in the medeival age, because they are COMPLETELY surrounded by these countries, entirely cut off from the outside world. Now, the four countries have recently realized that if the fief doesn't have modern technology, there's probably going to be large amounts of untapped resources just ready and waiting to be extracted, refined and sold. On Sygmir's side, they've been waiting fifteen years, their population is at unheard of heights because of new medicine and clean living conditions. Taking all this into account, Baron Sygmir has calculated what he has to do. He needs more land, obviously, he's only a man, and all his problems can be solved with trade, riches and land.

So, what I'm looking for is expirienced players who are willing to RP a nation not much bigger than mine, but with slightly better weapons and tech. Anybody can join in, on either side, but the point is to break out onto the II scene and show people what I can do. Alright?

OOC: I think Greal meant have you named these surrounding countries?

Okay, guess it was unclear before. I'm leaving the name and military power of the attacking nation up to whoever plays it, but it can't be too big, or I can't beat it. Still working this out folks, and again, anything you think I should change, say so.

[OOC: I'd be interested in invading had you not put "MT". I'm a recently turned PMT nation]

Well, it could be any time, but I like MT. The point is that the OTHER nations have SLIGHTLY more advanced tech. Ten years, max. So, if your PMT, you could just have your nation be super advanced for the time, yeah?

[OOC: Your nation can be MT, and mine can still be PMT. I was recently involved in a war where my nation (MT at the time) tried to repel a high tech invasion force from a feudal japan-esque country

A lot of my equipment is based on the stuff from the PS3 game Haze, in case you're wondereing, but i have other PMT stuff]

Go with it, but again, please not too difficult to kill your people please...Heheh, that sounds so ridiculous. I'm asking you guys not to be too hard on me in a war.

[OOC: Well, what weapons do your ground troops use?]

OOC: Im very interested in this. Youve got a good story here that could develop nicely. Kudos to you.

However, since my nation is quite isolated in terms of politics (recently broken out of slightly, but too recent to have such a history with you), Id be interested in roleplaying one of the nations, but not directly my nation. So Ill give you two options, besides whether I will be allowed to participate or not. You can either make up my nation in terms of geography based on what youd like to conquer/think would make for an interesting war, and Ill roleplay based on that; or I can develop the spec.

Im definetly interested in this one though.

[OOC: A word of advice Sygamir: Make a new, IC thread and keep this as the OOC thread. It makes things easier to understand]

Still not quite sure. I don't know much about weapons. This is all getting to be a lot of stuff to figure out...MT nation gave me weapons, and their good, but also slightly outdated, so I guess things like AK-47s, RPGs, light tanks, the like. Yeah, cheap and outdated.

OOC: Im very interested in this. Youve got a good story here that could develop nicely. Kudos to you.

However, since my nation is quite isolated in terms of politics (recently broken out of slightly, but too recent to have such a history with you), Id be interested in roleplaying one of the nations, but not directly my nation. So Ill give you two options, besides whether I will be allowed to participate or not. You can either make up my nation in terms of geography based on what youd like to conquer/think would make for an interesting war, and Ill roleplay based on that; or I can develop the spec.

Im definetly interested in this one though.

It would be preferable for you to make it up for two reasons.

First, is that I'm still very new to this and I barely know what my nation looks like.
Second, IC, Sygmir has very little idea what the outside looks like, so he's basically heading into unknown territory.

Still not quite sure. I don't know much about weapons. This is all getting to be a lot of stuff to figure out...MT nation gave me weapons, and their good, but also slightly outdated, so I guess things like AK-47s, RPGs, light tanks, the like. Yeah, cheap and outdated.

[OOC: Man, i don't see the attraction of the AK-47 really. But good point, it's a smart choice if your nation's equipment is outdated. In terms of my weapons, my troops main weapon is the Exterminatus BSW-72 "Blacksaw" (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13679680&postcount=4)]

Better suggestion? I've never done anything this big before, controlling a nation while RPing. It's considerably more work than Character Rp.

OOC: Ill work on the nation. I presume youre going to take the advice to set-up an IC thread? If so, give me the link/post it here when you do. I would advise it too, since this thread is already bogged down with OOC.

Yo. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13706391#post13706391)

Better suggestion?

[OOC: What?]

I would definitely be interested in role playing one of your opposing nations.

As a rough outline terrain wise it would resemble rolling foothills possibly steppe descending from the moutain range that encirlces your nation. Government style would basically be a manaically paranoid military junta.

Equipment wise it would resemble a slightly upgraded south africa.


being me I would normally consider asking about a slight metaphysicla role play aspect (deamons and magick ish) but i think it likely best to keep that out of the way.

I seriously like the premise but I would possibly suggest slowing thigns down to make sure you are covering all the bits you might need, any help you need please don't be afraid to ask.

As a rough outline terrain wise it would resemble rolling foothills possibly steppe descending from the moutain range that encirlces your nation.

[OOC: That sounds a lot like "Pit" or "Crater" in my books ;) ]

OOC: First of all, I shall be away in another town for the next two days.

Second of all, I'm surprised how many '08s are already here. I'm starting to feel old.

Third of all, CONGRADULATIONS on not declaring war on a nation 10 times your size, already being exposed to[ manga] character RPs, and having a well thought-out history.

Fourth of all, I wouldn't mind being your Guardian Angel. Keep in mind my army uses mostly French weapons. If you shall except me as your 'guardian angel' I will provide a list of all the weapons you would have been provided. I would pretty much assume responsibility for maintaining your equipment. I suggest you join OSAFU if we are to have this history. The link is in my signature.

Fifth of all, you need a map which I can provide.

Sixth of all, I RPed for 4 months an absolute libertarian monarchy in a region which collapsed and the puppet I RPed in that region was made especially for that region.

Seventh of all, I would've suggested getting neighbours and starting a region ( or joining the region I co-founded; Rodinia) and working out from there and/or having your first RP be embassies and/or a diplomatic RP. You have a good storyline though so a war isn't as bad as for nations without a storyline.

Eighth of all, feel free to ask me any other questions.

The best way to describe my makeshift nation for this RP (Ive tailored it to fit with your story) is American style weaponry except with a much more oppressive/aggressive stance. I mean, as in a "we are invading your country for your resources" way, if that makes it clearer what Im getting at. When you invade the aggression would turn to patriotism, as to be expected.

Terrain wise, a flat plateau with some deviations in the way of small hills, leading to a coastline. There are well secured passages to your nation, leading to a patch of barren wasteland slowly growing into a band of woodland. Past this is the wide green plateau.

Transport links are good and bridges well contructed over the four rivers running through the nation to the sea.

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My first RP post will be coming shortly. Also, Im assuming these declarations of war have already been sent and received.

A few random thoughts i have ahd on the whole set up:

Sygmir: I am working on the assumption that the terrain in your nation is some what similar to switzerland/tibet/nepal in that it is quiet easily defenable and to succesfully invade you would stupidly overwhelming numbers.

My Second assumption about the set up is that the 4 antagonist nations hate or at least distrust each other, either as an ingrained part of thier history, general rivalry or possibly as IC results of the thwarted "invasion" i.e. each antion blames the otherss for their defeat in that conflict, none of these nations would invade on thier own for fear of making themselves vulnerable to the other 3 (as an aside this might be your way out if you could manage to make one of the anatagonists hate the other 3 more than they hate you).

For an RL example of this kind of thinking look at the developement of the middle east in the past 60 odd years.

To develope the idea behind the nation I would propose to play it as having, on paper, a massive army which reality would ahve a very small core of well trianed and equipped regular force supplemented by a massive national militia/concsript force. Durign the invasion only the regulars paid much part likely out eprfroming many other units, leading to the beleif that the rest of the massive force should eb just as good and that my nation was holding back and letting the others bleed while we aimed for the most rewarding objectives.


Turning back to your antion breifly, there is a chance that it might have been Crookfur itself that helped out in the past, seeing as it also has a crusader back story and has a history of limited interventions.

I would be interested in playing one of the nations, consider it the smallest of the group of four at roughly 8 million people. A small but well trained military with strictly MT equipment. And a booming economy.

let me know. If so, I'll take the southern side.

OOC: First of all, I shall be away in another town for the next two days.

Second of all, I'm surprised how many '08s are already here. I'm starting to feel old.

Third of all, CONGRADULATIONS on not declaring war on a nation 10 times your size, already being exposed to[ manga] character RPs, and having a well thought-out history.

Fourth of all, I wouldn't mind being your Guardian Angel. Keep in mind my army uses mostly French weapons. If you shall except me as your 'guardian angel' I will provide a list of all the weapons you would have been provided. I would pretty much assume responsibility for maintaining your equipment. I suggest you join OSAFU if we are to have this history. The link is in my signature.

Fifth of all, you need a map which I can provide.

Sixth of all, I RPed for 4 months an absolute libertarian monarchy in a region which collapsed and the puppet I RPed in that region was made especially for that region.

Seventh of all, I would've suggested getting neighbours and starting a region ( or joining the region I co-founded; Rodinia) and working out from there and/or having your first RP be embassies and/or a diplomatic RP. You have a good storyline though so a war isn't as bad as for nations without a storyline.

Eighth of all, feel free to ask me any other questions.

Map would be nice, and yeah, I know. Not as if I'm going ':upyours: Japanda!', right? Do you mean my guardian angel that gave us weapons 15 years ago, or for this RP?

In response to what Vizion said about being the smallest of the four, it doesn't need to be four. It could be six or seven if need be. True, four is an optimum number, north south east and west, but if a fifth player doesn't want to play a character in another nation, they are more than welcome to find some other way to join in. Also, UN, I was asking if you had a better suggestion.

I could RP one of the nations surrounding you, or I could send in a commando team to help you.

In response to what Vizion said about being the smallest of the four, it doesn't need to be four. It could be six or seven if need be. True, four is an optimum number, north south east and west, but if a fifth player doesn't want to play a character in another nation, they are more than welcome to find some other way to join in. Also, UN, I was asking if you had a better suggestion.
I said four only because that's what you stated. None the less, I can RP as the smallest of the group if you'd like... 8 million, 4 million, w/e. Just let me know.

Entirely up to you, Greal. I'm not going to say, alright, you and you defend, you and you attack me.

Entirely up to you, Greal. I'm not going to say, alright, you and you defend, you and you attack me.

I'll send in a commando team..... :D

So... you still haven't told me either way if you want me in or not... lol

occ: who's a friend and who's playing a foe and i'd like to join on the side of sygmir.

If you want in, you're in. I have no idea who's good, so if you're good, okay. If you're a troll, g'bye, kick-bait.

((OOC: I plan on taking part in this RP. What continent is Sygmir on? My country is a global network of cities that form Provinces. Some Provinces are simply one-city megalopolises. My troops use advanced weapons that usually are designed by myself, but the fact that there are about 130 Provinces that they're stationed in means they're stretched out. However, more troops can be sent from Magna Polis to help defend Provinces in trouble. We also have Civilian Militias, but they're pretty low-tech, using stuff like M-16s, LAWs, a few Pattons and Shermans, and other older equipment.

Omg, 666th post.))

I have absolutely no idea where Sygmir is. I'd think somewhere like north Europe.

If you want in, you're in. I have no idea who's good, so if you're good, okay. If you're a troll, g'bye, kick-bait.

i got the first part but the troll part i dont get. explain please

OOC: Brittonia loves sending in humanitarian aid and helping civillians

I have absolutely no idea where Sygmir is. I'd think somewhere like north Europe.

((OOC: Ah, so Sygmir could be bordering the 3-city Province of Iron, one of the largest GWO Provinces. It's spread out across Germany, with the Command City in the Rhineland, but the other two in Central and Northern Germany. Anyways, I'd prefer to be defensive obviously, if I can partake in this RP.))

He could also be based on a made up continent like half of the RP'ers are. ;)

What's that? War? Count me in:sniper::mp5::gundge:

GWO, can I ask you something off-topic?

((OOC: Sure.))

Syg... was that you that send me a msg on AIM earlier?

On the main NS site, your country is the FASCIST FEDERATION of the Grand World Order, yes? How did you get the Fascist part?

((OOC: Once a nation hits 500 million people, they can have a custom pre-title.))

ViZion, I don't even have AIM...

Oh, alright... well SOMEONE msged me on AIM when I wasn't on, but dont know who it is lol... by the time I saw/replied they were offline. Oh well..

For all wanting an example of a Troll, see The Reverend Pete.

[OOC; Forgive me if i'm mistaken Sygmir, but is Baron Henry Sygmir your leader? I don't think it's wise putting him on the frontline, since defeat could be just a laser-guided bomb away;)]

Unless a new leader is on the cards?

Unless a new leader is on the cards?

[OOC: Good point.]

He goes where his army is. Besides, he isn't on the front line. He's in the rear echelon.

He goes where his army is. Besides, he isn't on the front line. He's in the rear echelon.

[OOC: Again, one well placed bomb, and he's history]

However courageous and valiant such an act is, and however much it would spur any military man on, Im afraid Ustio is right. It doesn't matter who you are, when your vital organs become over friendly with a piece of shrapnel, you're dead.

Meh. Its your nation. If by a string of good luck he is still standing at the end of it despite the war wounds, it would be something more and something quite interesting to put in your national history.

Im afraid Ustio is right. It doesn't matter who you are, when your vital organs become over friendly with a piece of shrapnel, you're dead.


[OOC: Hahah, nice touch :cool:]

I'll probably have Mr. Palmer kick him to his island in New Caribbean.

OOC: hey sygmir who is your commander of ground forces so i can send someone to linkup and get orders of where you want my forces

That's Marshal Robert Sigrin. He's with the Third Mechanized Jagers.

Hello,

I was wondering if you're still open for people. I just joined, and I want to get involved with something. If there's any sort of information you want me to provide, just let me know and I'll do so.

Always, just tell me how big your army is, how well equipped it is, and what side you'll be on. Hopefully mine, as I have only one ally right now, and they're out of town until tomorrow.

Sure.

As far as my army size goes, it's not all that large, namely because my own country isnt that big.

However, it's decently equipped, my focus being on current, previous and next generation Western European gear, a mix of British, French, German and a few others. I'm working on improving a few things, but still.

The Nonvarian Republics has become a corporate run nation, and as such, the military is basically the effect of one giant Private Military Company (PMC). They'd be willing to join you, but bear in mind that they have an almost mercenary way about it. Has to be some sort of gain for the company, or it's a loss of profits to them.

((OOC Note: Do I have to buy up all my gear from the storefronts, or is that supplimental, and I can at least have something on my own?))

Can i send in aid?

hey you got two allies sygmir you got me

Well, basically, the Nonvarian Republics is mostly modern, though they do have a little on the previous generation still in their arsenal. Primarily present and next generation Western European gear, British, German, French for the most part. Other stuff too, and maybe a handful of American and Russian gear.

The military isnt that big, but my country is pretty small too, since I sort of just started a few days ago.

Anyhow, the Nonvarian Republics is a bit more corporate minded (considering that's how its run), so the military is one giant PMC (more or less). They'd be more than willing to aid Sygmir, but there has to be something for them to get out of it, otherwise it's a loss of profits.

OOC: I'd like to be an ally of Sygmir.

3 million people max, 100mil people overall

Probably US-type-size military, since I'm trying to encourage that in my country-except without the nukes.

Does that sound about right?

Something that should be noted, anything aid or military power you send into Sygmir, it has to fly or march through the enemy. There is no around, really.

OOC: Alright, I'm a friend of ViZion's who is interested in joining up.
I'm using a US style military and technology tree and I'd like to share ViZion's western border south of Stygmir.

Well, aid I can send can even mean a flanking action on one of your enemies. I'm not sure on which direction I'd be coming in, but I can provide aid to Sygmir. However you want me to play it out, I'm ready.

Something that should be noted, anything aid or military power you send into Sygmir, it has to fly or march through the enemy. There is no around, really.

His Majesty, King Marek I of Great Majorca, hears the trouble of your nation. He is committed to free and safe regions all over the world. However he can not committ the sons and daughters of Great Majorca to your cause for stability in your region. He has ordered 20 special forces and commando advisors to Sygmir for the explicit purpose of training your soldiers and training them in the use of counter terrorist tactics. He has also instructed his intelligence service to gather any and all information on those nations who are enemies of Sygmir and forward that information to your sovereign. An arrangement could be made for future shipments of M-17 assault rifles to your troops, but that would have to be negotiated. His Majesty hopes for a quick end to hositilities in your region and looks forward to the day we can resubmitt our application for an embassy in your nation.

Respectfully,

Gary Rhys
Prime Minister, Great Majorca

^^ this is the OOC thread, you should post that in the IC thread.

That's true, IC forums is here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13710698#post13710698)

((OOC Note: Do I have to buy up all my gear from the storefronts, or is that supplimental, and I can at least have something on my own?))

[OOC: No you don't, you can have any weapons and equipment used in real life. If you want to use something that is made by another Forum user, such as from my store, you must buy it.

OOC: I'd like to be an ally of Sygmir.

3 million people max, 100mil people overall

Probably US-type-size military, since I'm trying to encourage that in my country-except without the nukes.

Does that sound about right?

[OOC: No. At a population size of only 100 Million, there's no way you could have a US sized military. You should note that in reality the US consists of over 300 Million people, and in terms of military power i quote wikipedia...]

As of May 2007, about 1,426,705 people are on active duty in the military with an additional 1,458,400 people in the seven reserve components.

[OOC: Ruthless Slaughter, has Mereshka given up on Red Tide's invasion?]

[OOC: Mugandan, in my post where my jets attacked APC's. They're not yours. I'm attacking Sygmirs]

I know. But just as the APC hit a bump in the road, the blast caught it and it rolled. After all, a blast inside a confined area such as between two walls of solid rock, the blast would be expelled both ends at a larger force than normal, rather than in a 360 degree radius by my reckoning.

But yeah, Im aware you were attacking Sygmir.

I know. But just as the APC hit a bump in the road, the blast caught it and it rolled. After all, a blast inside a confined area such as between two walls of solid rock, the blast would be expelled both ends at a larger force than normal, rather than in a 360 degree radius by my reckoning.

But yeah, Im aware you were attacking Sygmir.

[OOC: Ok, just making sure]

Can someone allow me to send in human aid?

New Brittonia, it is absolutely NOT my nation participating in the war. ICly you should not refer to me as "Mugandan". The premise of my actual nation is not suited to a war like this, so it wouldnt work.

Instead, Im roleplaying a nation called New Lutana as stated in this thread. Could you edit your last post please?

I dont mean to be overly cautious, but I also dont want to jump in and stomp on everyone's toes, either.

Since my nation is a bit on the merc side going into this, I just want to be clear on what Sygmir or their allies are offering the Nonvarian government in exchange for their military aid. It's like I said, my country things things through like a buisness, and if it cant make a profit from this, it's not going to stick around.

Plus, is this area landlocked or is it like a continent with just these nations on it, and the rest is ocean?

I just want to be clear so when I can post. Which, sorry for the delay, work's getting me bogged down.

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Plus, is this area landlocked or is it like a continent with just these nations on it, and the rest is ocean?


[OOC: Sygmir stated earlier that it was indeed landlocked]

Nonvarian, I didnt really understand your OOC bit in your post. Im not sure who is where either, but just to clarify, do I need to react to an attack from you as well? Just incase Im your intended target also, because I dont want to ignore you.

Sorry. I sort of tried to write that out at 1AM when I wasnt thinking clearly, but if you want to be the one to react to it, go ahead. Unless someone else is going to, in which case, dont mind me. I just dont have a clear idea who's where, and if I'm a problem, we can just nix that post and I'll just stay out of it.

Its not a problem. Perhaps we can leave it to Sygmia to decide where youre attacking. Since theyre hiring you, they could deploy you on one front and their own troops to the other or something.

Okay... I'm kind of confused about the nations not... or kind of letting my aid in.

wat do i need 2 do 2 help?

So we can have a list going for everyone's knowledge (and Syg, can you edit the original post to add it in once we get it up?), please post the following:

Your nation involved:
Side: (Pro Sygmir, Against Sygmir, 3rd party)
Location: (S, SE, E, NE, N, NW, W, SW of Sygmir)

Your Nation Involved: Lythia
Side: Against Sygmir
Location: Directly south

Your Nation Involved: ViZion
Side: 3rd Party (Humanitarian Aid)
Location: Elsewhere

Pro Sygmir
Imbrinium (South)
Nonvarian Republics (Northeast)

Against Sygmir
Lythia (Directly South)
New Lutana (East)
Ustio North (Elsewhere)

3rd Party
ViZion - Humanitarian Aid (Elsewhere)
The Grand World Order - Own Accord; slightly against Sygmir (Southwest)

Nation: New Lutana
Side: Against Sygmir
Location: East

If somebody has already declared being east, I was only saying this as Nonvarian was attacking west, and I presume it to be the opposite side of Sygmir than Sygmir was invading (ie New Lutana).

Okay, here is what I want:

A country to let me in and send in aid, I will need to use that country (bordering Symgir) to transport aid.

Imbrinium forces

Pro-Sygmir

Against Lythia at this time in the south

hey Vizion
is Lythia going nuclear so early in the conflict? the SRBM' they conventional or nuke?

Nation: Ustio North
Side: Against Sygmir, Ally Of Lythia
Location: Not A Neigbouring Nation

hey Vizion
is Lythia going nuclear so early in the conflict? the SRBM' they conventional or nuke?
OOC: Sorry, shoulda make that clearer... conventional lol

Can New Brittonia send in aid


No one is answering this question..

Nation: Federation of Nonvarian Republics
Side: With Sygmir (under rather mercenary terms which I'd like to have established)
Border: Shares a border with one of the anti-Sygmir countries, but not Sygmir itself.

NB, I'd love for you to send aid in, but of you get shot down by UN, or Mugandan, don't blame me.

NB, I'd love for you to send aid in, but of you get shot down by UN, or Mugandan, don't blame me.

I did send NB's Foreign Minister a message concerning aid. See this post. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13717992&postcount=36)

Oh, @#%$&*. AC-130 pwns all n00bz.

Can we get a map of the place?

i seconded that!

I got a rudimentary map

I now sizes and shapes are not as good... but this is good for who borders whom. . .

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/264/sygmapiizd8.jpg

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5697/sygmapiiixk9.jpg

This shows the alliances... it is interesting how it is really a northern v. southern front.
Green is pro Sygmir, Yellow is opposed.

Imbrinium - Can you please post what you're actually attacking w/ - aka # of troops, what tanks/equipment, etc you're using so I know exactly what I'm dealing with? Thanks. :) Also, let me know where you're located - still in the mountains? Your posts should be a bit clearer, RPing the movement and action better. Grammer/etc is also very helpful so it is easier to tell dialog, radio communication, and the actual action itself. Just FYI for improving your RPing. ;)

Sygmir, back finally huh? lol

New Brittonia, FYI, Lythia is very small, not much larger that Rhode Is. So I am probably the smallest of the group by a good margin. ;)

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8168/sygmapivab7.jpg

I think that's a good map. It certainly serves the purpose of defining where we really stand. Yes, ViZ, I'm back. Sort of.

OOC:Hey imported ViZion this the info you request, I’m stuck in the mountains,

Sorry about the RPing trying to work on it. 13yrs military trying to do it like I did it there so any help is welcome.

I’ll work on radio traffic and actions
Here’s the link to forces in Sygmir conflict
http://www.phpbbplanet.com/grimreaper6/viewtopic.php?p=31&mforum=grimreaper6

Heh while that's def understandable/good, you simply need to do more than just what your people are saying over the radio... be more descriptive... as we always say, when RPing you're basically writing a book... a story. People want to be able to visualize what is going on. What your people are seeing. What your government is "seeing".

So keep the radio communication going, but simply add more to it. ;) Talk about the troops and the vehicles making their way through the mountains, and the struggles they're having (A truck looses traction going around a corner and goes off a cliff? lol) Talk about the aircrafts leaving the base and making their way towards whatever.

:)

hey did check out the forces i have delpoyed to sygmir?

Holy Google, Imbri! That's seriously detailed.

hey sygmir thanks! hey got a question where was i godmodding and was it alittle or really bad, trying to make my post better so just let me know what and where i need to work on

Your nation involved: The Fascist Federation of The Grand World Order (Iron Province)
Side: 3rd Party, somewhat anti-Sygmir
Location: Iron Province is Southwest of Sygmir, though the Capital of the GWO is Elsewhere.

Oh, you went in and destroyed an airstrip at some point. I can't find the post though. Anyway, you basically said 'Planes fly, airport go boom!' More eloquent though.

Pro Sygmir
Imbrinium (South)
Nonvarian Republics (Northeast)

Against Sygmir
Lythia (Directly South)
New Lutana (East)
Ustio North (Elsewhere)

3rd Party
ViZion - Humanitarian Aid (Elsewhere)
The Grand World Order - Own Accord; slightly against Sygmir (Southwest)
Syg, could you edit this into the original post for people to see easier? Also edit the map (can NB update the map w/ GWO?)

Got the countries, couldn't update the map, so someone needs to tell me how to go about it.

Map would be nice, and yeah, I know. Not as if I'm going ':upyours: Japanda!', right? Do you mean my guardian angel that gave us weapons 15 years ago, or for this RP?

I was thinking both. I apologize for leaving for a week - I had a three day trip out-of-town and then I got a Wii.

Could I jump in somehow? I could be Elsewhere and launch airstrikes. Or I could just be a bit of your nation's history meaning the nation who helped you 15 years ago. If you posted in OSAFU I have to take part, however.

[OOC: By the way Sygmir, i need to point out that you are currently blacklisted in my storefront. Nothing personal, but i really can't be selling guns to my enemy. It's not sensible from my viewpoint]

UN, I can totally see what you mean there, no problem. Uiri, I'd prefer you were the nation that supplied me, as you probably can tell me about weapons and vehicles that you would have given me. I'm having a hard time figuring what they would have.

can I be some nation elsewhere anti sygmir that launches a naval attack?

nvm i'll be Nonvarian Republic

can I be some nation elsewhere anti sygmir that launches a naval attack?

[OOC: No.

This is because Sygmir is landlocked, hence, naval attacks are somewhat impossible]

nvm i'll be Nonvarian Republic

You will "be" NR? I dont quite understand. What are you doing? Are you pro/anti Sygmir? You have said you are attacking Sygmir, but your boats are going to find it really hard to sail over land.

Edit: Sorry, you are blockading Sygmirs allies. I was reading too quickly.

[OOC: Argenguay, if Mugandan has read correctly and you are blockading Sygmir's allies, then a word of caution: Due to your nations current population of only 7 million, i would suggest you don't get involved in this conflict. All the nations present so far have populations of over 50 million. It's likely that any blockade you set up would be steamrollered by Syg and his allies

The other reason is that if you are against Syg then it is turning into a kerbstomp rather than an invasion. I have no problem with invading, but i'll back out if it turns into a kerbstomp.]

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but kerbstomp? I presumed something like overcrowded and unrealistic?

Uh, explain how you're going to be me, when I'm right here. I'm just waiting for something to happen with my border clash here. It is sort of my country and all, so you cant just take it because I get a bit tied up with RL stuff.

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but kerbstomp? I presumed something like overcrowded and unrealistic?

[OOC: Yeah, it's where loads of nations simaltaniously invade one. I was involved in a war RP a while back that turned into a Kerbstomp due to poor communication. It looks like that may happen here if too many nations try to get involved.]


Pro-Sygmir (w/ Population)
Sygmir - 84 million
Imbrinium - 462 million (South)
Nonvarian Republics - 32 million (Northeast)

Against Sygmir
Lythia - Unknown (Directly South)
New Lutana - 150 to 200 million (East)
Ustio North - 755 million (Elsewhere)

3rd Party
ViZion - Humanitarian Aid - 10.499 billion(Elsewhere)
The Grand World Order - Own Accord; slightly against Sygmir - 1.18 billion (Southwest)


[OOC: As you can see, if Argenguay joins against Sygmir, it's 4, possibly 5 Vs 3. Argenguay, if you really want to join, then go ahead. But, read the previous posts in here and the IC thread so you know what's going on, and i'll join Sygmir to even the sides out.

By the way Syg, do you actually have an Embassy in Argenguay?

Oh yeah, FYI I'm not on the map. I'm elsewhere]

UN, I can totally see what you mean there, no problem. Uiri, I'd prefer you were the nation that supplied me, as you probably can tell me about weapons and vehicles that you would have given me. I'm having a hard time figuring what they would have.

OK, I will provide you with the necessary information. Yellow Baron Incorporated, a subsidary of Yalon Conogolomerat, would be operating within Sygmir seeing as how Sygmir is a member of the OSAFU. What I was trying to explain in the OSAFU thread was basically this:

-Uiri saves Sygmir from neighbours
-Uiri signs treaty with Sygmir which is the same as the OSAFU's charter except replacing Freely Assosciating State with Sygmir.
-Uiri creates OSAFU based off of said treaty.

Ergo, all the benefits of the OSAFU would have been granted for about 15 years. This basically means Uir buiness is already operating in Sygmir and Uiri already has military installations in Sygmir.

I hope that no one finds this objectionable, seeing as how I more/less saved Sygmir and all.

The weapons given to Sygmir would be:

FAMAS assault rifles
AMX 30's (still in use by the Uir army)
VAB's (still in use by the Uir army)
AMCA Troupes Aeról Portées Mle. 56 (M20 75 mm recoilless rifles mounted on Vespas)
Delacre model 1936 submachine guns
MAB PA-15 pistols
25 mm Hotchkiss anti-aircraft guns
25 mm Hotchkiss anti-tank guns
Dassault Mirage 2000C's (state-of-the-art 15 years ago)
MiG-27's (still in use by the Uir Air Force)

I was thinking of posting this earlier, but decided against it. Now youve got the pro/anti Sygmir list with populations, Im fixing NL's pop. at approximately 150-200 million. I think that sounds reasonable.

I was thinking of posting this earlier, but decided against it. Now youve got the pro/anti Sygmir list with populations, Im fixing NL's pop. at approximately 150-200 million. I think that sounds reasonable.

[OOC: Cheers, i'll update it now. ViZiON, could you settle on a population for Lythia?]

[OOC: EDIT: If it's all the same to you guys, i think i'll drop out of the invasion. I'll still keep an eye on this thread though, so ask for my help if you need it.]

I'm out. I'm not doing anything and my being here is pointless.

ooc: why are you guys dropping out? where is sygmir?

Arg, sorry I was gone. Hiatus, lagged out, disconnected.

[OOC: Oh yeah, Syg, you're off the blacklist]

hey why are yall backing out?

I didnt expect you to, but the RP has slowed down quite a bit. Perhaps now youre back, Sygmir, things will start looking up again.

[OOC: Well, I'm still out. Again, it's pointless me invading. Besides, if i go, it sort of evens out the sides.]

Sorry but we are allied with one of those nations, so were going to inturn declare war on u.

Sorry but we are allied with one of those nations, so were going to inturn declare war on u.

1. Which nation?
2. Is your nation landlocked?
3. Prepare for the merciless, uncompationate Uir to convince you to be a protectorate of Uiri instead.

Sorry but we are allied with one of those nations, so were going to inturn declare war on u.

[OOC: Before you go declaring war on anybody, just make sure you know what you're doing.]

I'm backing out mainly because my presence here is pointless, even to the point someone wanted to take my friggin country.

Okay, I changed my mind. I'm still in, but could I get someone to at least tell me what my forces are fighting? I dont want to metagame and godmode here.

I thought you were fighting the same front as Sygmir, which is this push into my nation. Although, I havent really heard anything more about that, my men are just sitting there waiting for something to happen.

Well, from the looks of the map, I thought I was hitting where our borders touched lol

is sygmir even around?

I really dont know, to be honest. Im keeping subscriptions just incase it gets going again, but I doubt it will now.