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19th Century War (OOC Thread)

Volzgrad
20-05-2008, 03:17
Link to RP: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13716712#post13716712

This is just a thought that I received when I was watching a show on the War of 1812. To answer the most obvious question, this (hopefully) RP will be using YOUR nation. If you wish to include RL countries in your posts, then go ahead, just don't control them.

To give you guys an idea of what I'm talking about. This war will be using the "old style" tactics of large columns of infantry firing in turns in big lines. Obviously cannons and cavalry would be included. If anyone is interested, they could make a risk style map for the campaign. I'm okay at starting RPs, but if anyone wants to host it then go ahead (say so first). To answer another future question, you don't have to talk in old English or whatever other "old" languages you may be thinking of. Normal current English will do fine.

If you guys wish then we may form alliances in Napoleon style way. I thought this would be cool because I've never seen a 19th century style RP. Normally, RPs are set in modern times, but imagine how cool it would be in 1815-30! On another note, yes you can create your own muskets, rifles, cannons, etc. Or you can use RL weapons (brown bess, baker rifle, etc.).

This RP will not be restricted to normal ground wars. You can RP a fleet invading another nation, naval battle, amphibious invasion, and all that good stuff. Please respond and give feedback for future improvement or if you want to join.

Players:
Volzgrad
Atruria
Corbournne
Greal
Lachenburg
Bedouin Raiders
Nascent
The Indonesian States
Wanderjar
The Blackhelm Confederacy
Friuli-Venezia
Morrdh
101st Paratroopers
Zoingo
O Boyce
Atruria
20-05-2008, 03:27
This idea is definitely a good one. I would love to be a part of it. By this time Atruria would have just recently won its independence from the British Empire and would be looking towards forging its own imperial domains.
Corbournne
20-05-2008, 03:40
As long as this doesn't directly interfere with me NS history in my region, I'd be glad to join. The Corbournnian Republic would be thriving around this time.
Greal
20-05-2008, 03:45
We did an RP of this before. I'm interested
Lachenburg
20-05-2008, 03:49
Count me in.
Volzgrad
20-05-2008, 03:51
Nice, looks like we might get a good amount of people in this RP.
Volzgrad
20-05-2008, 12:44
bump
Lachenburg
21-05-2008, 03:51
Bump
Bedouin Raiders
21-05-2008, 03:59
My Bedouin Camel Corps is in
Greal
21-05-2008, 04:03
Where will this take place?
Volzgrad
21-05-2008, 12:56
Depends if you guys want to do it with RL places or in NS places.
Atruria
21-05-2008, 16:04
I vote for NS!

Edit: Actually, I'm good either way, so long as we RP our NS nations
Nascent
21-05-2008, 16:27
Well this would help me come up with a more detailed history for my nation, so I suppose you can count me in as well. Just um, I work every day so keep that in mind if things get going at a hectic pace, just dont get all butthurt because it takes a few hours for me to reply to a post.
The Indonesian states
21-05-2008, 16:36
tag

joined something like this before, and it didn't work. I'm gonna try to join ,unless any of you don't want me to. I personally like RL maps, but thats just me.
Wanderjar
21-05-2008, 16:43
I'm game. Sign me up.
Blackhelm Confederacy
21-05-2008, 19:33
Put me down for a go.
Volzgrad
21-05-2008, 21:11
In my opinion, I think we should use NS places to prevent any confusion. I've also updated the list of those who are involved in our soon to be RP. If any of you guys want to make a back story for it, then go right ahead. A map would also be highly appreciated.
Volzgrad
21-05-2008, 21:37
On the subject of back story, here's what I think would be a good plot for the RP. The main portion of the RP will be set on a large island near the coast of Volzgrad. The island is extremely rich with precious metals and spices and it would be a very powerful asset to the nation that controls it. My nation is trying to secure it so that we may establish a colony and mines. On the flip side, you guys are trying to gain the island as a colony for your nation, or to use it as a beachhead to invade me, or any other logical reason you can come up with. Volzgrad is in the northern hemisphere along with the island so expect lots of coniferous trees and regular mild weather.
The Indonesian states
22-05-2008, 15:07
I'll make the map
Friuli-Venezia
23-05-2008, 03:05
I'm game. I need to fill my nation's history a bit, so this will be perfect.

And my nation, in this time period, engulfed the entirety of the Italian peninsula, so whether we use RL or NS nations doesn't matter to me either way ;-)
Volzgrad
23-05-2008, 13:00
I'd say that were pretty much ready to start this RP. Since I brought the idea forward, I'll probably be the one who starts the actual RP thread. However, one of you guys may volunteer to start it if you so wish. Once we get the RP going, then this thread will instead become a sign up thread for anyone who wants to join later on.
Morrdh
24-05-2008, 19:21
I'll be interested in joining this RP.

The time period in question my nation was still a province of the Empire of Ruskkia (my former NS nation), so what my force will consist of will pretty much limited to a scouting force of Rifle companies...well at least for starters.
Friuli-Venezia
24-05-2008, 22:22
When someone sets up the thread, could they please post a link to it here?
Morrdh
24-05-2008, 22:24
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=557289

Volzgrad has set up.
Greal
24-05-2008, 22:25
I'll post soon, I need a map first.
101st paratroopers
24-05-2008, 22:34
Can I join?
Volzgrad
24-05-2008, 23:56
Sure. It's always nice to get some new members involved.
Zoingo
25-05-2008, 00:02
This sounds really cool. I have been waiting for something like this, I'll join.
Friuli-Venezia
25-05-2008, 00:43
Agreed with Greal. It's hard to make a good post without a map.
Zoingo
25-05-2008, 00:57
Agreed with Greal. It's hard to make a good post without a map.

Thirded, or whatever it means to back up what someone backs up of what someone says.
Corbournne
25-05-2008, 03:48
Thirded, or whatever it means to back up what someone backs up of what someone says.

Thriced?

Tripled?

Idk.

And I quadruple/fourth it.
Volzgrad
25-05-2008, 04:34
I would gladly make a map but I don't have the slightest idea of how to make one! This is incredibly annoying because no one is posting because of the lack of a map.
Corbournne
25-05-2008, 04:37
I would gladly make a map but I don't have the slightest idea of how to make one! This is incredibly annoying because no one is posting because of the lack of a map.

Sorry, I would volunteer my skills to make one, but I don't have any. I'll see if maybe I can come up with something to post tommorrow.
The Indonesian states
25-05-2008, 13:44
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh188/Indonesian_States/19centurywar.jpg

Grey/Shaded area: Unknown lands
Orange and Yellow "X": ignore

I know the map sort-of sucks, but i'm sure it's readable
Volzgrad
25-05-2008, 15:46
Thanks for the map, I've already posted it in the RP thread. Hopefully this will make more people join.
101st paratroopers
25-05-2008, 18:43
Everyone feel free to join my embassy (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=557252)!!!
Please just join it.
Corbournne
25-05-2008, 20:01
That wooded northwest peninsula with the mountain is mine, as will be shown momentarily in the IC thread.
Corbournne
25-05-2008, 21:15
A big question here is how are we going to manage populations. I divided mine in half, because my nation is loosely based on France, and it's population in 1815 was roughly 30 million, half of what it is today. If the same principle applies to 101st paratroopers, he would most likely be committing his entire military to his colony.
Volzgrad
25-05-2008, 21:44
Back during 1814 (the time period for the RP) the Volzgradien empire was utterly massive. Hence, I have some credible back story for my force.
Corbournne
25-05-2008, 22:10
Back during 1814 (the time period for the RP) the Volzgradien empire was utterly massive. Hence, I have some credible back story for my force.

Yeah, hope you didn't mind me kinda decidin' on the year there.

And in my region, we came up with a history, and I had sovereignty over a nation similar in size to mine back in the early 1800's. So should we just be somewhat liberal with allowing people to decide their own populations (within reason), then?
Friuli-Venezia
25-05-2008, 22:48
Funny, back in 1814, my nation was about triple what it is now. We used to control the entire Italian peninsula, but we lost the Great Italian War in 1973, when the king and all his loyalists were excommunicated to what is now known as Friuli-Venezia, but was then called Sardinia.
Corbournne
25-05-2008, 23:03
Which is why I propose a fairly liberal population system. Another question, is there any way you could change the time it take to cross the island on horseback to maybe a week, Volzgrad? Assuming your horsemen were moving at an average 5 mi. per hour, that would make the island twenty-something miles wide, hardly worthy of millions of men fighting over it. If it took about a week, we'd have an island approximately the size of Iraq, which would allow for not only more climate diversity, but, more importantly, a much more realistic field of operation for our massive forces.
Volzgrad
25-05-2008, 23:11
thanks for that bit of information, I'll change the time immediately.
Corbournne
25-05-2008, 23:13
thanks for that bit of information, I'll change the time immediately.

No problem.

Post up ICly quite soon.
Friuli-Venezia
26-05-2008, 17:46
I've tried to make an IC post about three times now, but lost all motivation. I promise I'll get one up today. Cross my heart.
O Boyce
27-05-2008, 09:33
Sounds like fun, a good thing to RP for a Civil War Reenactor. I would like to join this fun little thing if it is alright.
Greal
27-05-2008, 09:50
What about populations? I remember in the last Napoleonic era rp, you had to divide your population by 20, and theres your population.
Volzgrad
27-05-2008, 12:51
Sure O Boyce, you can join.
Morrdh
27-05-2008, 21:11
Corbournne, just a few details on my soldiers.

As stated already they're riflemen armed with Baker Rifles (at least for the time being) and are pretty much skirmishers. The below link gives a rough idea of uniform, dark coloured tricorn hats and stormcoats.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/mad_ruskkie/wellington1.jpg

@Volzgrad, is it ok if I have the following rifle thats detailed under the following link?

http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=3208
Corbournne
27-05-2008, 21:54
What about populations? I remember in the last Napoleonic era rp, you had to divide your population by 20, and theres your population.

I think we're kinda going with the flow, as long as it's realisitic, it's in.

Corbournne, just a few details on my soldiers.

As stated already they're riflemen armed with Baker Rifles (at least for the time being) and are pretty much skirmishers. The below link gives a rough idea of uniform, dark coloured tricorn hats and stormcoats.


Cool. My men's uniforms are about the same as this... http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/French_hussar.jpg

... minus the hats, because they'd be far too hot with those things on.

IC post up soon.
Morrdh
27-05-2008, 23:21
Hm, thats interesting with the RP being set in 1814 since I've briefly mentioned that year in my factbook and its something that I can mention.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=554572

The bit about the post of Lord Governor of Morrdh being created in 1814, though it isn't much though the outcome of this RP would help to expand the factbook.
Weccanfeld
27-05-2008, 23:49
I'm tempted.

By 1814 they'd be a severe Hardwood shortage in Weccanfeld, the republic of Ealand (think medieval venice) in particular. I suppose that would be a good casus belli for colonialism.
Volzgrad
28-05-2008, 03:48
The troops that I sent to the island have 3 different uniforms.

Scouts: http://it.stlawu.edu/~rkreuzer/pburdick/world_war_1.jpg

Rifleman: http://strategicsimulations.net/catalog/images/SSHAT8072.jpg

Cavalry: http://polandian.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/british-hussar.jpg
Friuli-Venezia
28-05-2008, 14:48
I'm tempted.

By 1814 they'd be a severe Hardwood shortage in Weccanfeld, the republic of Ealand (think medieval venice) in particular. I suppose that would be a good casus belli for colonialism.

You stealing my Medieval Venice angle? :-P
Corbournne
28-05-2008, 22:05
My entire army's uniforms are based off RL Napoleonic French Uniforms, so just google that and you'll get a good picture of what the various types of men in my army wear.
O Boyce
28-05-2008, 22:06
i am going for Berdan sharpshooters uniform
O Boyce
29-05-2008, 06:59
Uniforms look like this







http://www.geocities.com/wr2usss/2ndusss.jpg
Christstan
30-05-2008, 03:53
Do Want.

If it is not too late I would very much like to join.

http://forum.taijitu.org/national-statistics/the-empire-of-christstan/0/

Here is an overview of my nation. It is modern, but the government is the same and provides history and cultural insights.

Warned - Military units are German in WWII.

Uniforms and most weapons are Napoleonic Prussian Armies.

Infantry - http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/Prussian_infantry.htm
Cavalry - http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/Prussian_cavalry_Napoleon.htm
Artillery - http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/Prussian_artillery_Napoleon.htm
101st paratroopers
01-06-2008, 22:33
erm... why is my nation in red?
Morrdh
01-06-2008, 23:29
Huh?

What do you mean?

If you mean the map, only Volzgrad's camp has been marked. We're supposed to ignore the various 'x'es.

If you guys want, I can whip up a much tidier map and mark people's locations.
Volzgrad
01-06-2008, 23:58
We could definitely use a better map.
Corbournne
02-06-2008, 02:38
Huh?

What do you mean?

If you mean the map, only Volzgrad's camp has been marked. We're supposed to ignore the various 'x'es.

If you guys want, I can whip up a much tidier map and mark people's locations.

Please do.
Morrdh
02-06-2008, 12:58
Will do.
The Indonesian states
02-06-2008, 19:57
please do, morddh, my mapping skills are not that good...