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Exterminatus Arms (Ustian Storefront)

Ustio North
08-05-2008, 17:00
OOC: Credit Goes To IGN for the pictures used, Free Radical for designing and creating Haze, Namco for creating and designing the Ace Combat series, Hideo Kojima for creating and designing Metal Gear Solid 4, Insomniac Games for creating and designing Resistance: Fall Of Man & Resistance 2 and id Software for designing and creating Enemy Territory: Quake Wars. The images are not owned by me, but are the property of the creators.

Note Please that this is a Modern Tech Storefront

Background

A small arms company operating in Ustio North for some time now, Exterminatus Arms has recently been contacted to produce weapons and armour for the rapidly expanding Ustian Army, and is currently the most used Arms company in Ustio since severe blizzards destroyed the Omega Factory, UNNA's base of operations. Exterminatus currently employs over 5,000 people.


Discounts
5% For Nations With A Population Of Less Than 500 Million
10% For Nations Who Have At Least 3 Previous Purchases
15% For Favoured Nations
20% For Strangereal Nations
50% For Members Of AMNAT

Favoured Nations
-North Erusea
-Dun Eideann
-Capsovul
-Kalbelkistan
-Dashie (Added After First Purchase Was Made)
-Mereshka
-United Human Countries
-Shenyang
-New Greston
-Falkasia


Blacklist - Blacklisted Nations May Not Purchase Any Equipment From This Storefront
-Latvawgo
-Red Tide (Red Tide2)
-Ryou Black Islands
-Roef
-Canedian Army

Rules

Make your own calculations. Any requests not posted with the full price of all equipment being purchased will be turned down instantly. I will be making checks on you using NSTracker to see if i'm being short-changed. Also, anything not listed in "Products" Post is no longer produced, and will generally not be for sale.
Ustio North
08-05-2008, 17:08
Small Arms

Exterminatus HVAP "Wraith" Chaingun - $5,000 Per Weapon (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13846064&postcount=56)

Exterminatus M5A2 Carbine - $1,000 USD Per Weapon (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14044680&postcount=58)


Vehicles

Exterminatus F/A-40 "Warhawk" - $25 Million USD Per Vehicle (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13816091&postcount=54)

Exterminatus P-1112 "Aigaion" Aerial Aircraft Carrier - $12 Billion USD Per Vehicle (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13740409&postcount=49)

Exterminatus D/F-28 "Sabre" Advanced Defence Fighter - $150 Million USD Per Vehicle (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14252644&postcount=60)

Exterminatus A/F-29 "Vulture" Advanced Atmouspheric Fighter - $137 Million USD Per Vehicle (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14252650&postcount=61)

Exterminatus F-37 "Storm" Multi-Role VTOL Aircraft - $65 Million USD Per Vehicle (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14435949&postcount=84) - *NEW*

Emplacements/Defences

Exterminatus Liberty Defence Tower (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14273499&postcount=72) - $TBC *COMING SOON*
Ustio North
08-05-2008, 17:27
Image (http://resources.ubi.com/resources/66/66158-Trooper_Description.jpg)

Other Variants:
Fire Support (http://file011b.bebo.com/1/large/2007/08/18/11/3987421408a5309595704l.jpg)
Light Trooper (http://file015b.bebo.com/14/large/2007/08/15/15/3987421408a5283683448l.jpg)
Heavy Trooper (http://file029b.bebo.com/6/large/2007/08/15/15/3987421408a5283664331l.jpg)

Background

With the collapse of Ustio North National Arms, Exterminatus Arms made it's first foray into the world arms market. One of it's three first products, the H.A.Z.E Armour was designed as a response to the Ustian Government's need for new-age body armour to replace the ageing weaponry provided by UNNA.

Design

Incorporating kevlar body armour with a new synthetic compound created by Exterminatus Labs, Zythogon, the High-Agility-Zythogonic-Energy Armour is designed to soak up most modern ballistics while giving the wearer maximum protection. Along with the body armour, the suit also incorporates an Assault Helmet, made from bonded kevlar and a special type of bulletproof glass to protect the wearer, it also provides real time battlefield information and the built-in communication system allows the wearer to remain in constant contact with their HQ. Finally, the suit incorporates an administer for a revolutionary new treatment for small wounds: the "Extra Cellular Matrix", or "Pixie Dust" as some test subjects call it. Pixie Dust is injected into the bloodstream via the back of the neck when the wearer suffers a minor injury, such as losing a finger. The Dust then makes the brain send signals to the injured area that tell it to begin regenerating tissue at an accelerated rate, allowing minor wounds to heal and missing appendages to be grown back. Death and other serious wounds, however, cannot yet be healed by "Pixie Dust"

Price Per Suit - $4,300 USD
Ustio North
08-05-2008, 17:28
Image (http://resources.ubi.com/resources/66/66153-Weapon_Rifle.jpg)

Background

Exterminatus' first ever weapon design, the BSW-72 "Blacksaw" assault rifle is a prototype assault rifle built to meet specifications drawn up by the Ustian Government, to replace their ageing G36's and M5A2's.

Design

The BSW-72 was designed to be a lightweight and compact assault rifle that can withstand a significant amount of punishment and still work under the most strenuous conditions. It's sleek black design is standard, though our engineers have announced that they will be producing a sand coloured version sometime in the near future.

Specifications

Weight: 2.82 kg (6.2 lb)
Length: 720 mm (28.3 in)
Barrel Length: 228 mm (9.0 in)
Width: 64 mm (2.5 in)
Height: 278 mm (10.9 in)

Cartridge: 5.56x45mm Depleted Uranium Shell
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Rate Of Fire: 750 rounds/min cyclic
Muzzle Velocity: 920 m/s
Effective range: 200 to 800 m sight marks
Feed system: 30-round detachable box magazine
Sights: Reflex sight with 1x magnification

Price Per Weapon: $1,500 USD
Ustio North
08-05-2008, 17:29
Image (http://resources.ubi.com/resources/66/66166-Weapon_Pistol.jpg)


Background

Exterminatus' second weapon design, the D6 "Diplomat" is currently undergoing testing with Bodyguards and other personal security personel. It was designed as the sidearm for shooters who needed a high power, accurate sidearm.

Design

Light and compact, the D6 packs a heavy punch for a small weapon. It comes in a jet black design, but a sand design will be available too.

Specifications

Weight: 1.25 kg
Length: 12" (305 mm)
Barrel length: 4 in. (102 mm)
Cartridge: .357 Magnum
Action: Short recoil operated, locked breech
Rate of fire: Single
Feed system: 10 Round Clip
Sights: 2x Sight, Laser Sight

Price Per Weapon: $394 USD
Ustio North
08-05-2008, 17:57
Image (http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/826/826377/haze-20071010034450401.jpg)

Background

Developed as a response to the BSW-72's over penetration problems in close quarters, the "Donkey Puncher" was envisioned for a new breed of trooper: the CQC specialists

Design

Yet another of Exterminatus' weapons, this weapon comes in jet black variety only

Specifications

Weight: 4.4 kg (9.7 lb)
Length: 1041 mm (41 in)
Barrel length: 546 mm (22 in)

Cartridge: 12 gauge 2 3/4 inch shells (NOT 3 inch)
Action: Pump-action / gas-actuated
Rate of fire: 4 rounds/s
Effective range: 40 m
Feed system: 8+1 rounds, internal tube magazine

Price Per Weapon: $1,250 USD
Ustio North
08-05-2008, 17:58
Image (http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/826/826377/haze-20071010034445120.jpg)


Background

The fifth generation of man-portable Anti-Armour weaponry, the "Hard Candy" rocket launcher is one of Exterminatus' most powerful weapons.

Design

Available in Jet Black or Desert Sand colour, the "Hard Candy" is a state of the art rocket launcher, capable of blowing the living sh*t out of any armored target. It is man portable and is mounted on the back of the hand, allowing the user to weild a sidearm should he need to.

Specifications

Weight: 8.1 kg (18.0 lb) - Missile 3.6 kg (8.1 lb)
Length: 0.7 m (27.5 in) - Missile 0.5 m (19.7 in)
Diameter: 101.6 mm (4.0 in) - Missile 94 mm (3.7 in)
Crew: 1

Effective range: 75 to 2500 m
Warhead: Tandem shaped charge HEAT
Warhead weight: 2.2 kg (5 lb)
Detonation mechanism: Impact force
Engine: Solid Fuel Rocket
Guidance system: Infrared homing
Ustio North
08-05-2008, 17:59
Image (http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/826/826377/haze-20071010034452245.jpg)

Background

The need for long range weaponry in the Ustain army was finally satisfied when Exterminatus released the B72 "Pinpointer" sniper rifle.

Design
Comes in Jet Black or Desert Sand colours, this high-tech sniper rifle couples the ultimate in armor-piercing rounds with a projectile velocity powerful enough to rip right through the sternum of any enemy.

Specifications

Weight: 31 lb (14.1 kg)
Length: 57 inches (144.8 cm)
Barrel length: 737 mm (29 in)

Cartridge: 12.7×99mm
Caliber: .50 Cal
Action: Recoil operated, rotating bolt
Muzzle velocity: 853 m/s (2800 ft/s)
Effective range: 2000 Meters
Feed system: 10-round detachable box magazine

Price Per Weapon: $1,750 USD
Jeuna
08-05-2008, 19:58
YOU'RE SPELLING IT WRONG.

IT'S "EXTERMINATVS D:<".
Ustio North
08-05-2008, 20:11
YOU'RE SPELLING IT WRONG.

IT'S "EXTERMINATVS D:<".

OOC: Well, it is MY storefront mate, i'd appreciate the freedom to spell it how i spell it, though thanks for pointing it out.

OOC2: And YOU'VE spelt it wrong. How on earth can you spell Exterminatus with a V?
Dashie
08-05-2008, 20:32
As we are currently looking for a .50 caliber rifle, and as our country does not produce them, we would like to purchase 20,000 B72 Sniper Rifles.

At $1,750 USD Per Unit, we believe that this comes to $35,000,000; or $35 million USD. Thank you in advance, and our Defense department will wire the money upon completion of the transaction.

** We request that the rifles be painted with 'Desert Sand.' Thank you.
Ustio North
08-05-2008, 20:39
Dashie: Your Purchase Has Been Confirmed. The Equipment Is Being Shipped As We Speak.

Receipt: 20,000 B72 Sniper Rifles - Total Price $35 Million USD

Thank You For Shopping At Exterminatus Arms! Please Visit Us Again!
Dashie
08-05-2008, 20:47
The money ($35 million NSD) has been wired to your storefront. We will definately be back in the future.
North-Point
08-05-2008, 21:18
In the Roman/Latin alphabet, V is usually used for U.
Ustio North
09-05-2008, 20:09
In the Roman/Latin alphabet, V is usually used for U.

OOC; Well, that's as it may be, but this is how i'm spelling it: In English
The Macabees
09-05-2008, 20:21
OOC; Well, that's as it may be, but this is how i'm spelling it: In English

[OOC: In English the word is 'exterminate'.]
Ustio North
09-05-2008, 20:22
Image (http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/826/826377/haze-20071010034448385.jpg)

Background

Now the standard issue hand grenade in the Ustian Army, the SK3 "Spring Cleaner" is Exterminatus' first handheld explosive device.

Design

Despite their sweety-pie nickname, these grenades are as tough as they come. Based on the classic dead man’s switch design, these time-operated babies are perfect for crowd clearance.

Price: $1,500 Per 1 Grenade Case Containing 150 Grenades
Ustio North
09-05-2008, 20:23
[OOC: In English the word is 'exterminate'.]

OOC: For the love of god...:mad:
Cotland
09-05-2008, 20:24
OOC: Well, it is MY storefront mate, i'd appreciate the freedom to spell it how i spell it, though thanks for pointing it out.

OOC2: And YOU'VE spelt it wrong. How on earth can you spell Exterminatus with a V?
OOC: Well, it's only been the war cry and signature phrase for Doomingsland for the past three years now, so I don't know why we would react to your theft and misspelling of his phrase...
In the Roman/Latin alphabet, V is usually used for U.
OOC; Well, that's as it may be, but this is how i'm spelling it: In English
OOC: I'm amused that you try to spell a Latin word in English, which is a completely different language. The word is translated into "[to] exterminate" in English, as the Macabees pointed out above. The reason for the use of the letter "V" is that it looks and sounds cooler than with the letter "U".
The Macabees
09-05-2008, 20:28
OOC: For the love of god...:mad:

[OOC: I'm athiest.]
Praetonia
09-05-2008, 20:28
In the Roman/Latin alphabet, V is usually used for U.
It isn't, it was just difficult to chisel curves into stone. Thankfully this is no longer a problem and, for instance, all my GCSE Latin books used printed 'u's.
Ustio North
09-05-2008, 20:30
OOC: Well, it's only been the war cry and signature phrase for Doomingsland for the past three years now, so I don't know why we would react to your theft and misspelling of his phrase...



OOC: I didn't know it was Doomingsland's Slogan, as i haven't had any dealings with them yet. If you can see this Doomingland, i apolagise for any offence caused.

[SIZE="1"]OOC: I'm amused that you try to spell a Latin word in English, which is a completely different language. The word is translated into "[to] exterminate" in English, as the Macabees pointed out above. The reason for the use of the letter "V" is that in the original Latin alphabet where this word originates, there exists no letter "U", hence the use of the letter "V".

OOC: Fine.

IC: I hereby christen a new word in the Ustian Language: Exterminatus

OOC: Now will you please stop criticising my bloody store?
The Macabees
09-05-2008, 20:32
It isn't, it was just difficult to chisel curves into stone. Thankfully this is no longer a problem and, for instance, all my GCSE Latin books used printed 'u's.

[OOC: In my Latin book they also use U, but make sure to indicate that the appropriate letter is actually 'V' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V).]
Cotland
09-05-2008, 20:39
OOC: Now will you please stop criticising my bloody store?
OOC: I'll give you a free little word of advice. Blatantly ripping pictures from a game and throwing random "specs" from your ass onto the pictures and then posting it as your own "creative product" isn't considered good form among most of the RPing community here. In fact, it's considered rather bad form and gets you a lot of negative attention as well as making players more apprehensive about playing with you.

Just thought you should know that there's a perfectly good reason for this unwanted attention, save of course for the fact that you blatantly stole a trademark from one of II's most respected active players.
Ustio North
09-05-2008, 20:41
Image (http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/831/831485/haze-20071030030723071.jpg)

Background
Exterminatus' replacement vehicle for the ageing UNNA LU-P Lynx, the "Boxcart" mounts a heavier machine gun than the Lynx, has a more powerful engine and can transport more troops than the Lynx.

Design
Fast, maneuverable and all-terrain: a combination that has made the ‘Boxcart’ invaluable in the difficult snow tundra landscape of B7R, where it was tested. Its lightweight frame is thanks to a notable absence of armor. So, whilst it can transport quickly, in combat it certainly can’t guarantee a safe arrival – hence its fragile namesake. Still, the fixed JM90 Heavy Machine Gun turret is a good reason to get out of its way.

Specifications

-Armour: Light
-Engine: 8 Cylinder Diesel 6.5 Litre
-Crew: 4 (1 Driver, 2 Passengers & 1 Gunner)
-Armament: One JM90 Heavy Machine Gun, with a 150 round ammuntion drum.

-Price: $250,000 USD
Ustio North
09-05-2008, 20:43
Image (http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/831/831485/haze-20071030030720258.jpg)
Interior

Background


Design


Specifications
-Armour: Bulletproof
-Engine: 12 Cylinder Diesel, 7 Litre
-Primary Armament: On-board gun rack with room for up to 20 BSW-72 assault rifles
-Weight: 35 t
-Length: 7.26 m
-Width: 3.36 m
-Height: 4.90 m
-Crew: 2 - with room in the rear of the vehicle for 12 persons sitting OR 20 persons standing OR 6 strechers OR 5000 lbs of cargo.


-Price: $100,000 USD Per Vehicle
Ustio North
09-05-2008, 20:44
Image (http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/831/831485/haze-20071030030722743.jpg)

Background
Exterminatus' design for a dropship/support gunship to replace UNNA's ageing P-1117 Kingfishers. It had to carry as many troops as the Kingfisher, and as much cargo, but also be more heavily armed than it's predecessor.

Design
Earning its alias by carrying soldiers in its ample belly and ‘birthing’ them on the battlefield, this dropship uses a combination of movable rotary engines and miniature kerosene afterburners, making it a true vertical take-off and landing craft. This motion arrangement gives the craft the means to both fly at high-speeds like a jet, but also to manoeuvre like a helicopter when at low speeds – thus, it is the perfect machine for rapid combat insertions.


Specifications

-Crew: Two pilots
-Capacity: 24 troops or up to 20,000 pounds of cargo
-Length: 57 ft 4 in (17.5 m)
-Rotor diameter: 38 ft 0 in (11.6 m)
-Wingspan: 46 ft (14 m); 84 ft 7 in (including rotors))
-Height: 22 ft 1 in (overall - nacelles vertical) (17 ft 11 in 5.5 m (at top of tailfins))
-Wing area: 301.4 ft² (28 m²)
-Weight: 33,140 lb (15,032 kg)
-Powerplant: 2× Rolls-Royce Allison T406 (AE 1107C-Liberty) turboshafts, 6,150 hp (4,590 kW) each, two miniture Kerosene afterburners.
-Armament: One forward firing 30mm Minigun, Two 7.62 Rocket pods.

-Price: $70 Million USD
Ustio North
09-05-2008, 20:56
OOC: I'll give you a free little word of advice. Blatantly ripping pictures from a game and throwing random "specs" from your ass onto the pictures and then posting it as your own "creative product" isn't considered good form among most of the RPing community here. In fact, it's considered rather bad form and gets you a lot of negative attention as well as making players more apprehensive about playing with you.

Just thought you should know that there's a perfectly good reason for this unwanted attention, save of course for the fact that you blatantly stole a trademark from one of II's most respected active players.

OOC: Yes, well some of us aren't brilliant with paint and photoshop, so we have to get by with other means. Yes, i have taken the shots from games, and yes, i did make the stats up. However, they're not "Random" as you put it. I did spend some time basing them on weapons of similar shape, size and caliber around today, save for the rocket launcher which i had nothing to base it on.

And when i last checked, you can't trademark words in the sense that you're implying. As i said, when i created the store i didn't know it was Doomingsland's slogan, and i apologise again to him/her

As a matter of fact, i'm not the only person on here who uses pre-made pictures and puts "random specs" onto them and sells them. I do happen to be a big gaming fan and i also know that other people on the forum share my hobby. Indeed, the HAZE armour is supposed to be the reference back to the game itself.
Cotland
09-05-2008, 21:06
OOC: Don't forget that there's a little thing called copyright, which I'm sure the good folks at IGN care about, considering that they've bothered to watermark their pictures.

If you think that skills in Paint/Photoshop are Godsends, I'm sorry to say that you're sadly mistaken. It takes a long time to reach the proficiency that many of the players on this board display, and everyone has to start somewhere.

You can go on stealing pictures from game sites if you want the quick fix (which will alienate you from most respectable players), but if on the other hand you're interested in developing your drawing skills so you don't have to get flak like this in the future, you should consider signing up for Lineartinc (http://z13.invisionfree.com/LineartInc/index.php?http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?act=idx) and submit your drawings for review and constructive criticism. Just remember that everyone had to start from scratch, and don't expect that your first ten designs are going to be perfect either. Perfection comes with experience.

As for your designs, they appear to have been pulled out from your ass, to put it bluntly. However, if you're interested in perfecting your designs as well, the NS Draftroom (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?act=idx) is where you want to go for constructive criticism and tips for improvements on your designs. Again, don't expect everything to be perfect right off the at.
Ustio North
09-05-2008, 21:19
OOC: Don't forget that there's a little thing called copyright, which I'm sure the good folks at IGN care about, considering that they've bothered to watermark their pictures.

If you think that skills in Paint/Photoshop are Godsends, I'm sorry to say that you're sadly mistaken. It takes a long time to reach the proficiency that many of the players on this board display, and everyone has to start somewhere.

You can go on stealing pictures from game sites if you want the quick fix (which will alienate you from most respectable players), but if on the other hand you're interested in developing your drawing skills so you don't have to get flak like this in the future, you should consider signing up for Lineartinc (http://z13.invisionfree.com/LineartInc/index.php?http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?act=idx) and submit your drawings for review and constructive criticism. Just remember that everyone had to start from scratch, and don't expect that your first ten designs are going to be perfect either. Perfection comes with experience.

As for your designs, they appear to have been pulled out from your ass, to put it bluntly. However, if you're interested in perfecting your designs as well, the NS Draftroom (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?act=idx) is where you want to go for constructive criticism and tips for improvements on your designs. Again, don't expect everything to be perfect right off the at.

OOC; Well, thanks for the advice. However, you should probably know that i've been using paint for a long time now, and it's just not something i'm very good at. If you're good with it, then kudos to you.

But i think you should note that you're the first person to critisise my use of premade pictures, given the fact my last store contained lots of equipment from games (Primarily Warhawk & Resistance: Fall Of Man). Besides, if i want to use weapons, armour and vehicles from Haze or other games, i need somewhere to post the stats. The store seems the best way to do that, plus it gives other people the chance to use it as well.

In terms of copyright, since what we're doing is Role-Playing and what we're selling technically doesn't exist, i doubt IGN will be that bothered.

I don't particularly wan't to get into a flame war with you, which is where this will decend to if this continues (I've been on a lot of forums, i know how it works). Your opinion is your opinion and i respect it as that. I would appreciate it if you would do the same for me.
Ustio North
09-05-2008, 21:24
[OOC: I'm athiest.]

OOC: Snap :headbang: But it's just an expression.
Roma V
10-05-2008, 02:27
Don't forget that there's a little thing called copyright, which I'm sure the good folks at IGN care about, considering that they've bothered to watermark their pictures.

OOC: Actually its only copyright infringement if he takes the pics, wipes their logo off, and calls it his own work. Which he hasn't. Though you should give credit in your post to the sites you take these off, the developers of the game, and the game itself for inspiration.

Also, in Ustio North's Defense, not everyone has hours to dedicate to paint and photoshop to make pictures for your weapons. It's a length process where you have to have a very creative mind and good patience to do so. For instance if I started my own storefront I'd probably do the same thing he's doing as I have no artistic skills either on the screen or on paper. I also do not have the patience to star at my screen for hours making the pictures as my attention-span for such a thing is rather slight.

As a respectable player, Cotland, I expect you to be a little less mean towards Ustio. It's his first storefront and you should be giving him creative criticism. Not full out calling his work "pulled out of his ass" when not everyone can do what the people on NS Draftroom do. What you're doing can be considered flaming as you're trying to discourage him from continuing his storefront because you don't like it his way of doing it.

All in all, give the guy a break and let him run his business. If you not going to give him creative criticism, then don't bother even posting in here as you're only hijacking the thread, making yourself look like a jerk, and flaming his idea.
The Gupta Dynasty
10-05-2008, 02:34
OOC: I'm amused that you try to spell a Latin word in English, which is a completely different language. The word is translated into "[to] exterminate" in English, as the Macabees pointed out above. The reason for the use of the letter "V" is that it looks and sounds cooler than with the letter "U".

[OOC: Actually, it's not (http://www.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/lookit.pl?latin=exterminatus). The reason "exterminatus" exists is a long story, involving WH40K, Doom, and me (well, actually just the first. *wink*). The important part is that the fourth principle part of "extermino" is "exussum", and that "exterminatus" doesn't exist in real Latin. Only in that fake Doomani version. Ustio North - sorry about the thread hijack. I'll delete this post if you wish.]
Ustio North
10-05-2008, 10:37
[OOC: Actually, it's not (http://www.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/lookit.pl?latin=exterminatus). The reason "exterminatus" exists is a long story, involving WH40K, Doom, and me (well, actually just the first. *wink*). The important part is that the fourth principle part of "extermino" is "exussum", and that "exterminatus" doesn't exist in real Latin. Only in that fake Doomani version. Ustio North - sorry about the thread hijack. I'll delete this post if you wish.]

Nah it's okay. I'm actively interested in history and language, so thanks for pointing this out.

Cotland, i have spoken with Doomingsland and i hereby quote his reply to "I apologise for using your signature phrase"

Oh dude no need to apologize at all...its not like its copywrite or anything (that is unless Games Workshop did)
Yanitaria
10-05-2008, 10:47
OOC: You really ought to run these by NSD. My apologies if you do, it's just that I haven't noticed you there, and your pistol has an 18 round .357 magnum clip, which isn't going to be comfortable to hold, and extremely heavy, and really not good for military use.
Cotland
10-05-2008, 11:38
Cotland, i have spoken with Doomingsland and i hereby quote his reply to "I apologise for using your signature phrase"
Then that thing's sorted and I'll back out from this thread gracefully. Do you want me to delete my posts related to this matter in order to reduce the clutter somewhat?
Ustio North
10-05-2008, 13:56
Nah, it's okay. I understand the concern you showed.

I figured he wouldn't mind since you said he was one of the most respected members of the forum, i doubt he would have earned that if he wasn't a nice guy.
Ustio North
10-05-2008, 14:07
OOC: You really ought to run these by NSD. My apologies if you do, it's just that I haven't noticed you there, and your pistol has an 18 round .357 magnum clip, which isn't going to be comfortable to hold, and extremely heavy, and really not good for military use.

OOC: Yes i was a bit sceptical about that when designing the stats. You're probably right so i've knocked it down to 19x9 Parrabellum round, like the ones used for the Walther P99.
Hamilay
10-05-2008, 15:16
It is man portable and is mounted on the back of the hand, allowing the user to weild a sidearm should he need to.

Wait, what?
Ustio North
10-05-2008, 15:20
OOC: Did you look at the image? Click the "Image" link to see it. The idea is that if the user encounters an enemy at close range (too close to use the launcher) he has a free hand to use his sidearm.

I should point out that these arms and armour are designed for Post Modern Tech nations. Ustio's using them because it has just become a PMT Nation.
Hamilay
10-05-2008, 15:25
OOC: Did you look at the image? Click the "Image" link to see it. The idea is that if the user encounters an enemy at close range (too close to use the launcher) he has a free hand to use his sidearm.

OOC: Yes, I saw it. I'm pretty sure you can't hold a rocket launcher on the back of your hand. Being able to shoot someone at the same time, well...
Ustio North
10-05-2008, 15:34
OOC: The concept art from Haze shows it like this on the Fire Support Trooper:

http://file011b.bebo.com/1/large/2007/08/18/11/3987421408a5309595704l.jpg

Theoretically, the user could fire a small sidearm using the free hand.
Ustio North
11-05-2008, 04:32
OOC: You really ought to run these by NSD. My apologies if you do, it's just that I haven't noticed you there, and your pistol has an 18 round .357 magnum clip, which isn't going to be comfortable to hold, and extremely heavy, and really not good for military use.

OOC: Though it took all night to download the damn demo, i do now have a slightly better understanding of the weapons of Haze. The D6 pistol in it does have a hell of kick to it.
Nilpnt
15-05-2008, 16:02
To: Exterminatus arms.
From: John Brokquent.

We would like to purchase 20,000 Exterminatus "Big Mama" to replace our fleet of P-117 kingfishers, 2,000,000 L-48 "Boxcart" to update our infantry forces mobility, and 6,000 "BigBoy" Command Vehicles.

We will be sending a payment of 1,904,505,772,000USD immediately.

signed,
John Brokquent, Minister of Defence.
Dashie
28-05-2008, 17:08
Hello, Ustio North.

We are very pleased with your .50 caliber rifle. Our soldiers have been training with it, and have only good reviews. Therefore, we would like to purchase 80,000 more B72 .50 caliber sniper rifles. We believe that this total comes to $140,000,000, or $140 million NSD.

Upon confirmation of price and order, money will be wired. Thank you,

Dashie Camel, leader of Dashie
Ustio North
29-05-2008, 20:32
To: Exterminatus arms.
From: John Brokquent.

We would like to purchase 20,000 Exterminatus "Big Mama" to replace our fleet of P-117 kingfishers, 2,000,000 L-48 "Boxcart" to update our infantry forces mobility, and 6,000 "BigBoy" Command Vehicles.

We will be sending a payment of 1,904,505,772,000USD immediately.

signed,
John Brokquent, Minister of Defence.

Order Confirmed. Shipment Has Been Dispatched

Hello, Ustio North.

We are very pleased with your .50 caliber rifle. Our soldiers have been training with it, and have only good reviews. Therefore, we would like to purchase 80,000 more B72 .50 caliber sniper rifles. We believe that this total comes to $140,000,000, or $140 million NSD.

Upon confirmation of price and order, money will be wired. Thank you,

Dashie Camel, leader of Dashie

Order Confirmed. Shipment Has Been Dispatched
Ustio North
01-06-2008, 13:07
Image (http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/690/690336/enemy-territory-quake-wars-20060221014551687_640w.jpg)

Background
As Ustio moves forward into the future, it's equipment was becoming increasingly dated. Exterminatus Arms designed and built the "Anansi" to replce the fleet of ageing AH-64 Apache Gunships.

Design
Using a mixture of past and futuristic technology, the Anansi seeks to match and better the performance of such attack helicopters as the AH-64.

Specifications

Length: 53 Feet, 8 Inches
Width: 5 Feet, 2 Inches
Height: 12 Feet
Armament: 1× M230 30 mm (1.18 in) cannon, (1,200 rounds), Hydra 70 FFAR rockets & AGM-114 Hellfire missiles

Weight Empty: 5,652 Pounds
Weight Combat: 10,800 Pounds
Propulsion: 2 Moveable Thrust Turbojets, 2 Miniture Kerosene Afterburners
Crew: Two (Pilot, WSO)
Cruise Speed: 200 Miles per Hour
Max Speed: 325 Miles per Hour
Vertical Rate of Climb: 1,000 Feet per Minute
Range: 420 Miles

Price Per Vehicle: $10 Million USD
Ustio North
01-06-2008, 13:17
Image (http://team-res.alteredpast.com/Portals/0/QuakeWars/Vehicles/h-titan.png)

Background
Since the Ustian Army has been lacking heavy armour for some time, Exterminatus finally designed and constructed a tank.

Design
Heavily armed and armoured, this tank was based on one of the most successful tanks of the 21st Century: The M-1 Abrams. However, it has been upgraded, replacing the M-1's GPMG's with an anti-personel minigun.

Specifications

Weight: 67.6 short tons (61.4 tonnes)
Length: Gun forward: 32.04 ft (9.77 m)
Hull length: 26.02 ft (7.93 m)
Width: 12 ft (3.66 m)
Height: 8 ft (2.44 m)
Crew: 4 (commander, gunner, loader, driver)
Armor: Chobham, RHA

Primary armament: 120 mm M256 smoothbore cannon
Secondary armament: 1 x 30mm Minigun (Coaxial)

Engine: AGT-1500C multi-fuel turbine engine, 1500 hp (1119 kW)
Power/weight: 24.5 hp/tonne
Transmission: Allison DDA X-1100-3B
Suspension: Torsion bar
Ground clearance: 0.48 m
Operational range: 465.29 km (289 mi)
With NBC system: 449.19 km (279 mi)
Speed On Road: 67.72 km/h (42 mph)
Speed Off-road: 48.3 km/h (30 mph)

Price Per Vehicle: $4.3 Million USD
Ustio North
03-06-2008, 15:08
Image 1 (http://www.acecombat.jp/ace6/estovakia/aigaion01.jpg)
Image 2 (http://images.wikia.com/acecombat/images/3/35/1737604776_ee4686660b_o.jpg)

Background
A joint technological venture between Exterminatus Arms & the Ustian Government, the P-1112's Aigaion's inital construction began during 1975. The technologies needed to create the Aigaion were mainly developed within the Federal Republic of Ustio North, but some parts were brought in by the Promise Hand (who favoured the Government at the time) Some of these defectors remained in the Ustian Government after leadership of the Promise Hand changed and they became Anti-Government. Some of this unknown technology had also became the point of much scrutiny of the current Government. When the XP-1112 was completed, it became the centrepiece of Shane Kennedy's Government's successes. However, the original was destroyed in what is thought to be a terrorist attack, yet the Government remains addamant that it was a gas leak in the holding hangar.

Design
The Aigaion Aerial Aircraft Carrier is capable of launching and recovering mass amounts of aircraft. This allows it to act as a moving, forward deployed "airfield" which can travel great distances. Along with this function, it is capable of performing a water landing due to its unique shape.

Specifications

Height: 102.39m
Width: 963.77m
Length: 433.3m
Weight: 97,000 tons
Operational Range: Potentially Unlimited

Armament: Flak cannons, AA guns, AAM launchers
Firing Range: --
Energy Source: 4x Westinghouse A4W Nuclear Reactors
Engines: 32x Jet Engines
Aircraft Compliment: 90 Fixed Wing Aircraft (No larger than Su-47 Berkut)
Crew Compliment: 3,200 Carrier Crew, 2,400 Air Wing

Price Per Vehicle: $12 Billion USD
Ustio North
05-06-2008, 12:54
Bump #1
Avalic
05-06-2008, 13:08
Taking advantage to the discount while we still can, the government of Avalic wishes to purchase these items for the military:

100,000 387L Rocket Launchers = $250,000,000 Without Discount
1,000,000 D118 Combat Shotgun = $1,250,000,000 Without Discount
and 1 Exterminatus P-1112 "Aigaion" Aerial Aircraft Carrier = $12,000,000,000 Without Discount

Total With Discount: $12,825,000,000

Money will be wired once this is confirmed.
Ustio North
05-06-2008, 13:47
Taking advantage to the discount while we still can, the government of Avalic wishes to purchase these items for the military:

100,000 387L Rocket Launchers = $250,000,000 Without Discount
1,000,000 D118 Combat Shotgun = $1,250,000,000 Without Discount
and 1 Exterminatus P-1112 "Aigaion" Aerial Aircraft Carrier = $12,000,000,000 Without Discount

Total With Discount: $12,825,000,000

Money will be wired once this is confirmed.


Exterminatus Arms Receipt

Thank You For Shopping At Exterminatus Arms

The Shipment Has Been Dispatched
Ustio North
02-07-2008, 17:40
Image (http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w123/Gazz6666/MGS4Cutscenes-Act2Part8-RaidenPt21.jpg)

Background

Design

Specifications
Crew: 2 pilots
Capacity: 2,640 lb of cargo internally, including 14 troops or 6 stretchers, or 9,000 lb of cargo externally
Length: 64 ft 10 in
Rotor diameter: 53 ft 8 in
Height: 18 ft 4 in
Disc area: 2,260 ft²
Empty weight: 10,624 lb
Loaded weight: 22,000 lb
Max takeoff weight: 24,500 lb
Powerplant: 2× General Electric T700-GE-701C free-turbine turboshafts, 1,800 hp each

Price Per Aircraft: $6.5 Million USD
Ustio North
06-07-2008, 13:27
Image (http://www.gamersdesktop.com/wallpaper/warhawkwallpaper_06_1680x1050.jpg)

Background

Design

Specifications
Crew: 2 (Pilot and Weapons Systems Officer (WSO))
Wingspan: 44 ft 6 inches (Extended) 40 ft 8 inches (Hover & Landing Mode)
Length: 68 ft 1 inch
Weight: 31,700lbs
Armaments: Two 15mm GAU-6 Gatling Guns (Linked To Auto-Tracking Radar), Missile & Bomb Racks (allowing up to 6 missiles and 1 bomb to be carried), Underwing Rocket Pods, Chaff & Flares Defensive Systems
Propulsion: Two Rolls-Royce Pegasus Mk.104 Turbofans At The Rear Of The Aircraft

Price Per Aircraft: $25 Million USD
Ustio North
18-07-2008, 14:32
Image (http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w123/Gazz6666/PrayingMantisChopper.jpg?t=1216387751)

Background

Design

Specifications

Crew: 0 (1 Controller, Not Present In Aircraft)
Length: 17.01 m (55 ft 9 in)
Rotor diameter: 17.20 m (56 ft 5 in)
Height: 3.82 m (12 ft 7 in)
Empty weight: 8,095 kg (17,845 lb)
Loaded weight: 10,400 kg (22,930 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 11,500 kg (25,705 lb)
Powerplant: 2× Klimov TV3-117VMA turboshaft, 1,450 kW (1,950 hp) each

Maximum speed: 300 km/h (187 mph)
Range: 1,100 km (640 mi)
Service ceiling 5,800 m (19,000 ft)

Armament: 1x chin-mounted M230 Chain Gun with 600 rounds (220° horizontal fire)
up to 2,300 kg of missiles & rockets on six hardpoints.

Price Per Aircraft: $18 Million USD
Ustio North
18-07-2008, 15:51
Image (http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w123/Gazz6666/Minigun.jpg)

Background

Design

Specifications
Cartridge: 5.56x45mm NATO
Action: Mechanically driven rotary breach
Rate of fire: Variable from 400 to 4,000 RPM
Muzzle velocity: 3,250 fps
Feed system: 1000 Round Drum or Belt Feed.

Weight: 20.5 Kg
Length: 25 In

Price Per Weapon: £5,000 USD
Dashie
12-08-2008, 03:52
We were very pleased with our last purchase. Your B-72 rifle has been handling well, and we have already accepted it for full use in our military (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13725219&postcount=5). Therefore, we would like to purchase a total of 2,000,000, or 2 million more B-72 .50 caliber rifles. Let us know if such a purchase is possible. If our accountant did his math correctly, we believe that this comes to a total of $2,975,000,000, or 2.975 billion NSD. Please keep these rifles as factory paint (no camo), as we will paint them later.

Have a good day,

Millian Gezwaltz, director of Dashie Weaponry Commission.
Ustio North
27-09-2008, 15:56
Image (http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w123/Gazz6666/928399_20061019_screen007.jpg)

Background
Currently the standard weapon of choice for the Ustian Army, the M5A1 was concieved in 1962 by Ustio North National Arms. Since they went bust, the M5A1 has remained in circulation amongst the armed forces. In 2008, Exterminatus Arms bought the rights to begin manufacturing the M5A2 Carbine.

Design
The M5A2 Carbine's butt stock and grip are made from wood. The rest of the rifle (barrel, bolt, and bolt carrier) is made from steel. The M5A2 has a set of iron sights as standard, but since the M5A1, it has been upgraded to include a Picatinny mounting rail, to which the user can attach either a conventional sighting system or numerous optical devices such as night vision scopes. The underbarrel also has room for the M200 40mm underslung Grenade Launcher (included with weapon).

Another improvement since the M5A1 is the cartrige. Originally a .30-06 Springfield cartridge, testing during re-design showed that the .30-60 was too heavy a cartridge, thus making the weapon very inaccuarate when firing. Hence, it was reduced down to a 5.56x45mm NATO cartridge.

The M5A2 utilizes direct impingement gas operation; energy from high-pressure gas tapped from a non-adjustable port built into the front sight assembly actuates the moving parts in the weapon. Combustion gases travel via a gas tube above the barrel directly into a chamber in the bolt carrier behind the bolt itself, pushing the carrier away from the bolt. This reduces the number of moving parts by eliminating the need for a separate piston and cylinder and it provides better performance in rapid fire by keeping reciprocating masses on the same axis as the bore.

The weapon is cleared by removing the magazine, pulling the charging handle to the rear, and inspecting the chamber. To load, the magazine is inserted into the well. To prepare the weapon for firing, the weapon is cocked by pulling the charging handle to the rear, and letting go to ensure the bolt closes properly. "Riding" the charging handle often causes the bolt to fail to close properly.

When the magazine is exhausted, the bolt locks to the rear; by replacing the empty magazine with a fresh one, and pressing the bolt release, a new round is chambered and the soldier may immediately commence firing.


Specifications
Weight: 4.0 kg (w/o M200 Grenade Launcher), 5.2kg (w/ M200 Grenade Launcher)
Length: 1,214 mm
Barrel length: 610 mm

Cartridge: 5.56x45mm NATO
Action: Gas-operated, open bolt
Rate of fire: 300–650 rounds/min
Muzzle velocity: 805 m/s
Effective range: 600m
Feed system: 50 round ammunition clip

Price: $1,000 USD Per Weapon
Dagobah V
20-10-2008, 18:09
Dagobah V wants to purchase:
1 Exterminatus P-1112 "Aigaion" Aerial Aircraft Carrier - $12 Billion USD Per Vehicle
10 Exterminatus X-160 "Black Falcon" Combat Support Helicopter - $6.5 Million USD Per Vehicle
20 Exterminatus M-2 "Titan" Main Battle Tank - $4.3 Million USD Per Vehicle

for a total of 2,68 billion
Ustio North
27-11-2008, 18:46
Main Image (http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/acecombat/images/6/60/Falken01.jpg)
Alternative Paint Scheme (http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/acecombat/images/5/53/ADF-01F.jpg)
Prototype Paint Scheme (http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m72/chaos_knight275/Ace%20Combat/ADF-01_FALKEN.jpg) (Taken During COFFIN System Testing)

Background

The D/F-28 (NATO reporting name "Sabre") Advanced Defence Fighter is a fighter aircraft that utilises stealth technology. It is primarily an air superiority fighter, but has been configured to intercept and destroy ICBMs in-flight. It is the first of two aircraft designed and built as a joint operation between Exterminatus Arms and the Special Research & Projects Agency.

Design

The D/F-28 utilises the latest in modern technology - Scramjet engines, vectored thrust nozzles, forward swept wings, canard wings - to make it as fast and as agile as possible to achieve it's mission goals.

In order for it to surpass modern jet fighters in terms of speed, it is fitted with two SRPA-GD-425x2 SCRAMjet engines, which can punch the D/F-28 to speeds of almost three times the speed of sound. It's vectored thruster nozzles, forward swept wings and canard wings offer superior handling when compared to some other fifth-generation fighters.

Image Showing The D/F-28's Nozzled Thrusters & Canard Wings In Action (http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/acecombat/images/0/0b/ADF-01_Falken_movement.gif)

One of the D/F-28's other distinguishing features is the lack of a glass cockpit. Instead, the D/F-28 is fitted with a 360° celestial-spherical screen cockpit layout, giving the pilot an immense advantage in combat. Instead of a traditional glass canopy, the plane utilizes a prototype of the revolutionary COnnection For Flight INterface (COFFIN) system, which is similar in effect to a one-way mirror or an extremely tinted window. The pilot can still see out, but no one can see in. This is achieved via a series of real-time hexagonal monitors and external cameras that transmit the visual data to the pilot. This also allows for the HUD and targets to also be displayed at all angles, where as a normal aircraft can only show targets and data on it's front HUD display. If a target were to leave that HUD on a normal plane, the pilot would not be able to see it's green targeting square. On the D/F-28 however, the monitors and a powerful computer eliminate that problem.

The D/F-28 also mounts significant firepower. Coupled with it's COFFIN system, the D/F-28 mounts a multi-barrel 25mm cannon, internal hardpoints for AIM-9 Sidewinder Missiles & external hardpoints for AIM-54 Phoenix BVRAAM missiles. But by far the D/F-28's most powerful weapon is it's internally mounted Chemical Oxygen Iodine Laser (COIL). Added to the aircraft to fulfill the requirement that the aircraft be able to effecively neutralise Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles whilst they are in-flight. Because it is mounted internally, the aircraft has been designed around the weapon, and can therefore split along it's horizontal axis in order to reveal and subsequently fire the weapon.

Image Showing The D/F-28's COIL In Action (http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/acecombat/images/d/db/ADF-01_Falken_Laser.gif)

The main brief for the aircraft was to be more effective than the other aircraft in the Ustian Air Force designed for this job - the Boeing YAL-1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YAL-1). Whilst the D/F-28 does have the edge in speed and manouverability, the D/F-28's laser is not as powerful as the YAL-1, nor can it fire as many times. The on-board power for the D/F-28 would allow the laser to be fired only ten times, for a maximum of five seconds per shot.

Specifications

Wingspan: 15.92m
Length: 24.0m
Height: 6.60m
Weight: 23,300kg
Max Speed: Mach 2.8
Engine: SRPA-GD-425x2

Armament: 1x 25-mm multi-barreled cannon, AIM-9M Sidewinder hardpoints, Tactical Laser Pod (TLS), AIM-54 Phoenix External hardpoints

Price Per Aircraft: $150 million

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OOC: Legal Stuff, for all you moaners out there. Credit goes to Ace Wiki for the first two pictures and the technical gifs. Credit to GIS for the the third image. I do not own ony of the pictures etc, etc
Ustio North
27-11-2008, 18:47
Main Image (http://www.kotaku.com.au/gallery/ac6423/ac642326_medium.jpg)
Alternate Paint Scheme (http://www.wonderwallweb.com/DLC01_CFA-44_03.jpg)
Prototype Paint Scheme (http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/acecombat/images/4/44/CFA-44.jpg)

Background
The A/F-29 (NATO reporting name "Vulture") is a high altitiude, high speed fifth generation interceptor. It is the second of two aircraft designed and built as a joint venture between Exterminatus Arms and the Special Research & Projects Agency. It was designed to intecept and shoot down enemy fighters, bombers and drones at high altitude.

Design

Early Specificational Mock-Up Drawing Of A/F-29 (http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa164/i90807065/CFA-44Nosferatu.png)

WIP

Specifications

Crew: One pilot
Length: 22.183 m
Wingspan: 14.7 m
Height: 6.43 m
Wing area: 840 ft²

Empty weight: 18,500 kg
Max takeoff weight: 35,000 kg

Powerplant: 2× Lyulka AL-37FU turbofans, 145 kN each
Max Speed: Mach 2.5

Armament: 2x 20mm Multi-barrel cannon, hardpoints for AIM-9M missiles, hardpoints for MBDA Meteor (BVRAAM) missiles, ECM hardpoint

Price: $137 million USD Per Aircraft

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OOC: Legal Stuff, for all you moaners out there. Credit goes to Ace Wiki for the pictures and GIS for the tech drawing. I do not own ony of the pictures, Namco Bandai created Ace Combat 6: Fires Of Liberation, etc, etc
Avoya
27-11-2008, 20:23
ooc: two comments: one, you state that your truck has capacity for 20 men standing, so around 4000 lbs, but only can carry 200lbs of cargo? this cannot be correct.

second, the Aignion is a complicated design, as you have the decision of making the reactors air cooled, so that the air becomes radio-active, or making them regularly cooled, which takes up huge amounts of space. out of interest, what is the length of the Aignion?

IC: we would like to borrow one Aignion supercarrier, in order to test its capabilities. We will refund all damage to the plane. we will put down $5 billion down payment, and you can have $1 billion for the research.

additionally, we would like to propose a joint venture with Exterminatus. We have recently perfected a design for an automated grenade launcher, for large vehicles. it automatically sends the appropriate type of grenade/expolosive shell at an enemy target.

All friendly units would either be marked, or told that they are friendly, whereupon the computer will not fire on them. This allows a platoon of tanks (10 heavies, 5 MBTs 2 Tank Hunters, and 3 scouts) to successfully take on enemy formations.

However, our main stumbling block has been the design of a heavy tank, and we challenge Exterminatus to create a design.

yours faithfully,

Lord Tara Brabazon
Department of Experimental Technology
Ustio North
27-11-2008, 20:59
ooc: two comments: one, you state that your truck has capacity for 20 men standing, so around 4000 lbs, but only can carry 200lbs of cargo? this cannot be correct.

second, the Aignion is a complicated design, as you have the decision of making the reactors air cooled, so that the air becomes radio-active, or making them regularly cooled, which takes up huge amounts of space. out of interest, what is the length of the Aignion?

IC: we would like to borrow one Aignion supercarrier, in order to test its capabilities. We will refund all damage to the plane. we will put down $5 billion down payment, and you can have $1 billion for the research.

additionally, we would like to propose a joint venture with Exterminatus. We have recently perfected a design for an automated grenade launcher, for large vehicles. it automatically sends the appropriate type of grenade/expolosive shell at an enemy target.

All friendly units would either be marked, or told that they are friendly, whereupon the computer will not fire on them. This allows a platoon of tanks (10 heavies, 5 MBTs 2 Tank Hunters, and 3 scouts) to successfully take on enemy formations.

However, our main stumbling block has been the design of a heavy tank, and we challenge Exterminatus to create a design.

yours faithfully,

Lord Tara Brabazon
Department of Experimental Technology

OOC: Yes, some of my old designs need to be fixed. I'll make ajustements pronto. With the truck, it was probably just a typo.

The P-1112 is around 433 metres long.
Also, how would you suggest I power a Flying Aircraft Carrier?

IC:

To: The Mercenary Camp Of Avoya

Your request for one P-1112 "Aigaion" Aerial Aircraft Carrier has been accepted for Combat Evaluation purposes only. The vehicle has been dispatched and should arrive shortly. As you are only evaluating the Carrier, no payment will be required.

We will consider your offer, and put our best scientists to work on a design that can mount such a grenade launcher.

Regards,

Dexter Sullivan,
CEO of Exterminatus Arms.
Avoya
28-11-2008, 09:25
Also, how would you suggest I power a Flying Aircraft Carrier?


well as I said earlier, it depends on your stance on the environment, and other factors. for instance, in order to achieve almost permanant flight, you will need a food source of some kind, and hydroponics require huge amounts of water. also, you will need an air recyling/condensing machine, as people cannot breath the air, at 40 000 feet. however, if you go lower, to launch helicopters say, then you will get turbulence problems. also, the increased air density will create problems.

then consider that the Aigaion will be the center piece of your nations defences, so that if it has a fault, so a faulty reactor, then your nation will be defenseless while it is being serviced.

Finally, you cannot have the doors open, as in the picture, as the air coming in would not allow people to move about, Instead, go for a method similar to the catapault syle, on the Nimitz aircraft carrier, in a sealed chamber, so the crew preps the airplane, starts in, and then leaves: then the doors open, and it flies off.

IC: thank you, we will return it to you soon
Ustio North
28-11-2008, 12:56
well as I said earlier, it depends on your stance on the environment, and other factors. for instance, in order to achieve almost permanant flight, you will need a food source of some kind, and hydroponics require huge amounts of water. also, you will need an air recyling/condensing machine, as people cannot breath the air, at 40 000 feet. however, if you go lower, to launch helicopters say, then you will get turbulence problems. also, the increased air density will create problems.

then consider that the Aigaion will be the center piece of your nations defences, so that if it has a fault, so a faulty reactor, then your nation will be defenseless while it is being serviced.

Finally, you cannot have the doors open, as in the picture, as the air coming in would not allow people to move about, Instead, go for a method similar to the catapault syle, on the Nimitz aircraft carrier, in a sealed chamber, so the crew preps the airplane, starts in, and then leaves: then the doors open, and it flies off.

IC: thank you, we will return it to you soon

OOC: In response to what you have said:

It doesn't launch helicopters, so I don't have to worry about that.

As far as faults go, that could happen on any aircraft, so i'm not sure what you're suggesting I do about that.

Yes, I did think about that. It's probably to do with the fact that aircraft are not serviced or readied out on the open flight deck, rather in a secure hangar. Then they can take off like a normal aircraft would once they have been rearmed & refuelled

As far as the power source goes, I think you can guess I couldn't give a toss about the environment (I kinda lost that right when I dreamt this up!), so nuclear reactors would be OK, I suppose. It would have been helpful is AceWiki (http://acecombat.wikia.com/wiki/P-1112_%27Aigaion%27_Aerial_Aircraft_Carrier), where I got the statistics from (I made a flying carrier before, but this one is much better with official stats) actually said what the power source is rather than just "6 Large Engines"
Avoya
28-11-2008, 19:58
Well the problem with a huge multi billion dollar item is that if it is eliminated, then you are sunk. that is why many small nations (real world) that could have one, maybe two aircraft carriers, instead go for cruisers, as they are more reliable, and cheaper. It would only work, if you have 3-6 Aigioans, which is to expensive. but anyway, back to IC!
Ustio North
28-11-2008, 20:07
Well the problem with a huge multi billion dollar item is that if it is eliminated, then you are sunk. that is why many small nations (real world) that could have one, maybe two aircraft carriers, instead go for cruisers, as they are more reliable, and cheaper. It would only work, if you have 3-6 Aigioans, which is to expensive. but anyway, back to IC!

OOC: Ah, I see what you're getting at there. But the point about this is that you don't replace your navy with one, but buy one to supplement your Navy & Airforce.
Avoya
29-11-2008, 14:57
OOC: fine

IC: We here at Avoya are sufficiently impressed with the Aigaion that we have decided to buy one immediatly, with a second one to be purchased at a later date, once we have decided if we want to change anything. We will wire the money, on receit of confirmation.

Also, due to our friendly relations, we would like to propose an alliance, and an embassy swap. My embassy page is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk./showthread.php?t=572186).

Thank you
Lord Tara Brabazon
Department of Experimental Technology
Ustio North
29-11-2008, 17:34
OOC: fine

IC: We here at Avoya are sufficiently impressed with the Aigaion that we have decided to buy one immediatly, with a second one to be purchased at a later date, once we have decided if we want to change anything. We will wire the money, on receit of confirmation.

Also, due to our friendly relations, we would like to propose an alliance, and an embassy swap. My embassy page is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk./showthread.php?t=572186).

Thank you
Lord Tara Brabazon
Department of Experimental Technology

Order Confirmed:

One P-1112 Aigaion Aerial Aircraft Carrier

Estimated Time To Arrival: Three Days
Anemos Major
04-12-2008, 15:08
The Holy Empire of Anemos Major would like to purchase 2 P-1112 Aigaion Aerial Aircraft Carriers.
Ustio North
04-12-2008, 15:10
At a price of 12 Billion? Let me check your stats...
Ustio North
04-12-2008, 15:10
Image (http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w123/Gazz6666/LibertyDefenceTower.jpg?t=1228400568)

Coming Soon!
Anemos Major
04-12-2008, 15:11
In a payment of two installments, of course.
Anemos Major
04-12-2008, 15:12
Damn, I meant one. I mean two F-28 fighters for testing.

And BTW, is that the Falken from Ace Combat? because that is one hell of a nice plane...
Ustio North
04-12-2008, 15:15
Damn, I meant one. I mean two F-28 fighters for testing.

And BTW, is that the Falken from Ace Combat? because that is one hell of a nice plane...

IC:

Automated Reply

Your Request For Two D/F-28 Advanced Defence Fighters For Combat Evaluation Purposes Only Has Been Accepted. The Aircraft Have Been Dispatced And Are En Route

Good Day

OOC: Yup, it is the Falken, though I guessed giving it a different name and designation were a good idea for here. The F-29 is based off of AC6's CFA-44. And did you want two P-1112's, or one, or one payment?
Yanitaria
05-12-2008, 01:25
OOC: Though it took all night to download the damn demo, i do now have a slightly better understanding of the weapons of Haze. The D6 pistol in it does have a hell of kick to it.

OOC: Sorry for not replying in months, but I just noticed this storefront again. You really, really ought to run these designs by NSD. Cotland and I have both linked it to you.

The problem with the video games is that they aren't meant to be realistic, they are meant to fill a goal for the game designer. The designer is trying to balance the weapon to make it useful for it's role, taking into account the other weapons used. That's why most weapon's can't hit the broad side of a barn from across a football field, while in RL, a weapon would be absolute crap if it couldn't.

NSD not only adds legitimacy to your designs, but because you are submitting in for peer review by a bunch of people who like learning about this stuff, your weapons will generally be much more realistic than they are now. I highly suggest it.
Anemos Major
05-12-2008, 11:32
OOC: One P-1112, although I have a hunch that in two payments I can, in fact, buy two.

IC: The holy Empire of Anemos Major would like to ask whether it is possible to carry 32 D/F-28 fighters on board the P-1112.
Anemos Major
05-12-2008, 11:40
The Holy Empire of Anemos Major would also like to purchase three A/F-29 Vultures for testing. We will inform you of the results of both tests in due time.

Thank you.
Ustio North
05-12-2008, 11:45
OOC: Sorry for not replying in months, but I just noticed this storefront again. You really, really ought to run these designs by NSD. Cotland and I have both linked it to you.

The problem with the video games is that they aren't meant to be realistic, they are meant to fill a goal for the game designer. The designer is trying to balance the weapon to make it useful for it's role, taking into account the other weapons used. That's why most weapon's can't hit the broad side of a barn from across a football field, while in RL, a weapon would be absolute crap if it couldn't.

NSD not only adds legitimacy to your designs, but because you are submitting in for peer review by a bunch of people who like learning about this stuff, your weapons will generally be much more realistic than they are now. I highly suggest it.

OOC: Meh, that's okay Yanataria. I know you and Cotland have linked me to NSD, but i'm still not sure about it. Hearing what some people say, i'd prefer to leave slightly unrealistic. And, as a point on VG weapons, because they don't generally have statistics I do have to base them on RL weapons - for example, the M5A2 is based on the M16.

OOC2: AM, the P-1112 can carry 90 fixed wing aircraft.

IC:

Automated Reply

Your Request For Three A/F-29 Vultures For Combat Evaluation Purposes Has Been Accepted. The Aircraft Have Been Dispatced And Are En Route

Good Day
The Inquisitorius
05-12-2008, 14:04
We would like to purchase one of your P1112 Carriers. The money will be wired to you at your earliest convenience.
Anemos Major
05-12-2008, 17:06
IC: The Holy Empire of Anemos Major, Holy Office of War

After extensive testing, we have decided to purchase 30 D/F-28 fighters and 60 A/F-29 fighters for use aboard the P-1112.

The newly formed Air Fleet Command (under the jurisdiction of the Air Force) is expressing interest in purchasing a further P-1112. In addition, we would like to ask whether it is possible to purchase the airframe of the P-1112 without the aircraft carrying capabilities.

OOC: Is it just me, or is my budget 7 trillion dollars?
Yanitaria
06-12-2008, 00:27
[SIZE="1"]OOC: Meh, that's okay Yanataria. I know you and Cotland have linked me to NSD, but i'm still not sure about it. Hearing what some people say, i'd prefer to leave slightly unrealistic. And, as a point on VG weapons, because they don't generally have statistics I do have to base them on RL weapons - for example, the M5A2 is based on the M16.

OOC: You see, your designs aren't a little unrealistic. Many of them are extremely out of touch with reality. I know there are some people that absolutely hate NSD and what it stands for, but here is the thing:

Because so many noobs post really shit designs, NSD guys tend not to sugar coat anything. If you do something wrong, they will tell you quite bluntly, because many of us have seen the same crappy idea a million times, and have had to explain why it's wrong almost as many times.

For this, many people who cannot take constructive criticism with out it being surrounded by the "cuddles and warm love of their mothers" end up taking it as being plain mean, when it isn't meant to be so. There are others, like conservative morality (I think that's his nation) who are just plain stubborn, and don't want to better themselves.

As long as you sincerely want to create something usable in your tech level, NSD is a great place to get constructive critique, as well as to make friends and allies. Besides, it couldn't hurt, could it?
Ustio North
06-12-2008, 11:25
OOC: You see, your designs aren't a little unrealistic. Many of them are extremely out of touch with reality. I know there are some people that absolutely hate NSD and what it stands for, but here is the thing:

Because so many noobs post really shit designs, NSD guys tend not to sugar coat anything. If you do something wrong, they will tell you quite bluntly, because many of us have seen the same crappy idea a million times, and have had to explain why it's wrong almost as many times.

For this, many people who cannot take constructive criticism with out it being surrounded by the "cuddles and warm love of their mothers" end up taking it as being plain mean, when it isn't meant to be so. There are others, like conservative morality (I think that's his nation) who are just plain stubborn, and don't want to better themselves.

As long as you sincerely want to create something usable in your tech level, NSD is a great place to get constructive critique, as well as to make friends and allies. Besides, it couldn't hurt, could it?

OOC: Oh, if I had a penny for every time someone has said that to me :rolleyes:

I'll tell you what - next time I have an idea, i'll run it by NSD before posting it here. And I think you are right, it is CM who states something about not taking his designs to the Draftroom on is storefront. But hey, this is NS - if he doesn't want to, why should anyone make him?
Ustio North
24-01-2009, 17:42
F-37 "Storm" Multi-Role VTOL Aircraft
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A Cutaway Drawing Of The F-37, Showing In-Flight And Hovering Arrangements

Description: A brand new multi-role fighter from the Exterminatus Production Yards, the F-37 was designed with Ustio's new Submersible Carriers in mind - a VTOL high performance jet, which was small enough to fit onto the deck of the Bahuviris Class Submersible Carrier. The F-37 was also designed to be a cheap, reliable alternative to aircraft such as the F-35 and Yak-38.

Design: The F-37 utilises a double tail arrangement, with two engines and five vectoring nozzles, to provide stable hovering abilities. The inspiration for the design comes from the aging MiG-15, albeit with modernised technology. Therefore, the main gondola, where the cockpit is situated, is designed in memory of one of the earliest jets. However, on the side of the main gondola, the wings house another two gondolas, each housing the F-37's engines and two of it's five exhaust nozzles. It's wing arrangement allows for nominal armament arrangements

Powerplant/Propulsion: Mounted in the wing gondolas, the F-37 is powered by two modified Rolls-Royce Pegasus Mk.107 turbofans. The engines have been modified to allow the connections to the other exhaust nozzles on the aircraft. Together, the engines provide almost 50,000 pounds of thrust to push the F-37 into the skies.

General Specifications:
Crew: 1
Length: 10.12 m
Wingspan: 11.25 m
Height: 3.76 m
Wing area: 22.6 m²
Empty weight: 5,700 kg
Loaded weight: 10,200 kg
Max takeoff weight: 11,000 kg VTO
Powerplant: 2× Rolls-Royce Pegasus Mk. 107 with five vectored thrust nozzles, 208 kN

Performance
Maximum speed: 1,500 km/h
Combat radius: 610 km
Ferry range: 3,552 km
Service ceiling 50,000 m
Rate of climb: 150 m/s


Armament
Guns: 1× GAU-22/A 25 mm cannon (Mounted in wing area between left engine gondola and main gondola)

Hardpoints: 6× under-wing pylon stations holding up to 3,650 kg of payload

Rockets:
2× LAU-5003 rocket pods (each with 19× CRV7 70 mm rockets); or

Missiles:
Air-to-air missile:
6× AIM-9 Sidewinders; or
6× AIM-132 ASRAAMs
Air-to-surface missile:
4× AGM-65 Maverick; or
6× Brimstone missiles

Prices:

Per Vehicle: $65 Million USD
Domestic Production Rights: $200 Million USD

OOC: Okay, a few OOC notes. Firstly, this is meant to replace F-35's on for the Bahuviris Class Submersible Carriers. Secondly, credit goes to EA Games for making Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3, where the picture comes from. Thirdly, since this is for PMT, Yanataria, I decided not to go to the NSD, as they really wouldn't like it.
Ustia
24-01-2009, 19:31
OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT PROCLAMATION
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From: Ministry of Defense, Republic of Ustia
To: Exterminatus Arms

The Defense Ministry wishes to acquire the following item(s)

10 x P-1112 "Aigaion" Aerial Aircraft Carrier

Total cost: $120 billion
Signed: Chief of Defense Staff Ryan Anderson
Allanea
22-02-2009, 03:38
[OOC: In English the word is 'exterminate'.]

OOC: No, it isn't. The term Exterminatus has been ported into English by the Games Workshop people. That's where Doomingsland ripped it from: Exterminatus (http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Exterminatus).

Even when Draftroom people come out and try to force their views on designs down the throat of people who don't want the opinion of Draftroom (or they'd be posting on that forum for advice), it's... not very nice. This? This is not even funny. And now, in the proper February spirit, I will order weapons.

IC:

A message from President Alexander Kazansky

Please send me a sample of every small arm in this storefront. 10 million dollars will be wired upon confirmation.
Techno-Soviet
22-02-2009, 03:58
OOC: Well, it is MY storefront mate, i'd appreciate the freedom to spell it how i spell it, though thanks for pointing it out.

OOC2: And YOU'VE spelt it wrong. How on earth can you spell Exterminatus with a V?

OOC: V = U, in Latin. >_>
Falkasia
22-02-2009, 05:05
The Glorious People's Republic of Falkasia wishes to purchase the following:

-Three (3) P-1112 "Aigaion" Aerial Aircraft Carriers for $12 Billion USD a piece

Total: $36 Billion USD
With 15% Discount: $30.6 Billion ($30,600,000,000)
Falkasia
22-02-2009, 05:05
The Glorious People's Republic of Falkasia wishes to purchase the following:

-Three (3) P-1112 "Aigaion" Aerial Aircraft Carriers for $12 Billion USD a piece

Total: $36 Billion USD
With 15% Discount: $30.6 Billion ($30,600,000,000)
Belkaland
22-02-2009, 05:52
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Principality of Belkaland
Grand Duke Razgriz H. Demon
SecDef Maj. Gen. George Hammond

To: Exterminatus Arms
Subject: Major Military Purchase


The Principality of Belkaland is in the process of upgrading the Belkaland Luftwaffe and has decided to make a few purchases from Exterminatus Arms. We wish to purchase the following:

2 Exterminatus P-1112 "Aigaion" Aerial Aircraft Carriers
60 Exterminatus D/F-28 "Sabre" Advanced Defence Fighters
30 Exterminatus A/F-29 "Vulture" Advanced Atmouspheric Fighters

That should round up to $37,110,000,000 USD. We also request that the Aigaion be outfitted with VLS for Belkaland's Burst Missiles at the cost of the amount of aircraft the Aigaion can carry. If this adds cost, please tell us.

Sincerly,
Razgriz H. Demon
George Hammond
Ustio North
22-02-2009, 18:03
Falkasia: A single order of 3 P-1112 Aigaion AAC's has been confirmed. The order will be complete in 5 NS years

Allanea: Your order has been confirmed, and an example of all our products will be shipped to you ASAP

Belkaland: Your order is confirmed. Unfortunately, the P-1112's we build are not fitted with VLS's, as they are designed for battlefield support, not an offensive role. However, you are welcome to make ajustements to the design as you see fit.

OOC: Don't start the whole "store name" argument again, please.
El Centro de tierras
22-02-2009, 18:07
Try this place if you want to make a sale. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=584380)
Techno-Soviet
22-02-2009, 18:10
The United Socialist States of the Techno-Soviet
The Technocratic Council

We wish to acquire the following:

- 10 P-1112 Airborne Aircraft Carriers

Combined Total: $120,000,000,000

One question, is it possible to load transport aircraft, like C-130Js and MV-22s onto the P-1112?
Ustio North
22-02-2009, 19:07
Techno-Soviet: Your request is denied, as you currently have insufficent funds in your defence budget. Please try again in the future

OOC: For the record, if I worked it out properly, your defence budget is only $75,138,083,560, due to your current exchange rate. Data came from NSTracker on Techno-Soviet (http://nstracker.org/index.php?nation=Techno-Soviet)
Techno-Soviet
22-02-2009, 19:29
OOC: Oh. Darn. =\

IC:

The United Socialist States of the Techno-Soviet
The Technocratic Council

Ah, well then we should have enough to cover the costs of half that many. So we'll take five P-1112 AACs.

- 5 P-1112 Airborne Aircraft Carriers

Combined Total: $60,000,000,000
Kraveska
22-02-2009, 20:11
I would like to purchase 5 wraith chainguns.
Ustio North
23-02-2009, 13:30
OOC: Oh. Darn. =\

IC:

The United Socialist States of the Techno-Soviet
The Technocratic Council

Ah, well then we should have enough to cover the costs of half that many. So we'll take five P-1112 AACs.

- 5 P-1112 Airborne Aircraft Carriers

Combined Total: $60,000,000,000

Techno-Soviet, your new order is confirmed. The process has begun and the final craft will be delivered to you in 7 NS years time.

OOC: I think I said only small craft in the description, but if i didn't then no, it can't.
Allanea
23-02-2009, 13:37
OOC: Telegram for Ustio North!
Ustio North
23-02-2009, 13:45
OOC: Telegram for Ustio North!

OOC: Got it, and replied.
Kraveska
23-02-2009, 14:04
Please aknowledge my order. The Kraveskan government is anxious to get weapons.
Techno-Soviet
23-02-2009, 14:22
The United Socialist States of the Techno-Soviet
The Technocratic Council

We're glad to hear we had sufficient funds.
Ustio North
23-02-2009, 14:41
Please aknowledge my order. The Kraveskan government is anxious to get weapons.

Well perhaps the Kraveskan government should have made the effort to read the rules, and make their own calcultions, because untill you do your request will be denied.
Kraveska
24-02-2009, 14:27
Well, seeing as you apparently can't calculate the price of 5 weapons, I guess I'll have to do it for you. It will cost me $25,000.
Ustio North
24-02-2009, 16:28
Well, seeing as you apparently can't calculate the price of 5 weapons, I guess I'll have to do it for you. It will cost me $25,000.


Kraveska: Your request is denied.
Belkaland
24-02-2009, 16:50
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Principality of Belkaland
Grand Duke Razgriz H. Demon
SecDef Maj. Gen. George Hammond

To: Exterminatus Arms
Subject: Further Military Purchase


The Principality of Belkaland has been extremely impressed with the performance of the Aigaion AACs and would like to purchase another 2 for $24,000,000,000 USD.

Sincerly,
Razgriz H. Demon
George Hammond
Ustio North
24-02-2009, 16:56
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Principality of Belkaland
Grand Duke Razgriz H. Demon
SecDef Maj. Gen. George Hammond

To: Exterminatus Arms
Subject: Further Military Purchase


The Principality of Belkaland has been extremely impressed with the performance of the Aigaion AACs and would like to purchase another 2 for $24,000,000,000 USD.

Sincerly,
Razgriz H. Demon
George Hammond

Belkaland: Your request is approved, with a 20% discount (see first post for reason). Expected completion time: 2 1/2 NS Years
Jalanat
24-02-2009, 18:00
OOC: definition of strangereal please, i am dutch
Ustio North
24-02-2009, 18:02
OOC: definition of strangereal please, i am dutch

OOC: It's a region, more specifically the region myself and Belkaland are located in.
Jalanat
24-02-2009, 18:13
our nation would like to buy 2000 weapons of the type: Exterminatus M5A2 Carbine the total price would be 2000000 USD our country population however is under 500 million so that would give us a 5% discount, meaning that the cost would be only 1900000 USD.
Ustio North
24-02-2009, 18:33
our nation would like to buy 2000 weapons of the type: Exterminatus M5A2 Carbine the total price would be 2000000 USD our country population however is under 500 million so that would give us a 5% discount, meaning that the cost would be only 1900000 USD.

Jalanat: Your order is confirmed. The order will be dispatched as soon as you wire the money.
The Wolf Hold
24-02-2009, 18:47
Wolverine Defence Corporations
Offical Wolf Hold Military Defence Contractor
Acquisition Department

We wish to purchase 1 Exterminatus P-1112 "Aigaion" Aerial Aircraft Carrier

Total: $12,000,000,000

Funds will be wired upon confrimation of the order
Jalanat
24-02-2009, 18:49
Our nation has wired the money. we will send our own airplane to get the weapons to our nation.
Ustio North
24-02-2009, 18:59
Wolverine Defence Corporations
Offical Wolf Hold Military Defence Contractor
Acquisition Department

We wish to purchase 1 Exterminatus P-1112 "Aigaion" Aerial Aircraft Carrier

Total: $12,000,000,000

Funds will be wired upon confrimation of the order

The Wolf Hold: Your order is confirmed. It will be ready in 18 months.
Techno-Soviet
24-02-2009, 23:59
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The United Socialist States of the Techno-Soviet
The Technocratic Council

We wish to purchase an additional five P-1112s.

- 5 P-1112 Airborne Aircraft Carriers

Combined Total: $60,000,000,000
Allanea
27-02-2009, 18:13
Official Message from the United States Government

We require 10 Aigaion aircraft carriers for our own purposes. We will wire 120 billion dollars upon confirmation.
Ustio North
28-02-2009, 00:15
Allanea, Techno-Soviet: Both orders are confirmed.

I'm afraid this store is no longer taking orders. Reasons will be explained soon
Birkaine
11-03-2009, 22:43
The Birkanian Air Force would like to purchase the production rights for the F-37. The aircraft should work nicely with the Birkanian Air Force, especially since the alternative is rocket-powered Mig-21s.