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International City (Police Proposal) (Closed; attn natios in city)

Prycuse
06-05-2008, 21:16
The International City is in very need of a universal police system. So all stations can be on the same page to catch outlaws. Basically be more coordinated with each other. The down side is the loss of some power over a nations districts. Not begin able to regulate the police.

The police system is maintained by no one. It is in now way linked to Prycuse any other nation. Only the city itself. Its sheriffs and such will be elected by the citizens not by leaders. (OOC: theres not really elections)

There is little not an extreme amount of money involved so no real affect on taxes.
The Atreidond Islands
06-05-2008, 21:39
I'm for it. How about we have each nation contribute X amount of officers per district they have. We'll need to standardize equipment and such, and that can be decided too.
Zinaire
06-05-2008, 21:41
I don't really understand. All other police forces in the city (I didn't know there were any) will be disbanded in favor of this non-national, city-wide one? Maybe they could just oversee/work with the district police (kinda like the FBI working with NYPD or whoever).
Zinaire
06-05-2008, 21:43
I'm for it. How about we have each nation contribute X amount of officers per district they have. We'll need to standardize equipment and such, and that can be decided too.

Zinaire has some surplus UMPs, G36s and police sniper rifles we'd be willing to donate or sell to the city very cheap.
Prycuse
06-05-2008, 22:03
I'm for it. How about we have each nation contribute X amount of officers per district they have. We'll need to standardize equipment and such, and that can be decided too.

As for the recruitment; I was thinking it would be just a job that anyone could sign up for.The equipment is answered below.\/

I don't really understand. All other police forces in the city (I didn't know there were any) will be disbanded in favor of this non-national, city-wide one? Maybe they could just oversee/work with the district police (kinda like the FBI working with NYPD or whoever).

Yeah thats what I was thinking (disband all others). That ruins the fact that all stations should work as one. With all the different nations things tend to mess up; Ex. a Guy form Prycuse steals something in a Zinaire district, and goes into a Prycuse district, then the Zinaire Police may not be allowed in the district. The they got to call the Prycuse Police and tell all about the guy that stole the candy bar form wal-mart. After thats all done he may be long gone or the Prycuse may not even go after him. (this is just an example)

(OOC: very sorry for the paragraph of boringness)

Zinaire has some surplus UMPs, G36s and police sniper rifles we'd be willing to donate or sell to the city very cheap.

I think that will be great, and cheap. Thank you.
Zinaire
06-05-2008, 22:06
That makes sense. How many policemen should we each provide, do you think?
Prycuse
06-05-2008, 22:09
I answered that in the last post.
Zinaire
06-05-2008, 22:12
That seems a bit vague. I think there should be a requirement. Like, 5-10 per district should do it.
Prycuse
06-05-2008, 22:13
I think 5 is not enough; how about 8-15
Kirav
06-05-2008, 22:16
There should be a Police Cooperation program that is intra-district, but a universal police force shouldn't be neccessary.
Prycuse
06-05-2008, 22:25
There should be a Police Cooperation program that is intra-district, but a universal police force shouldn't be neccessary.

easier said than done. Think about the language barrier. Not all nations speak the same language. So with this program, where all officers operate under one system, then they could make it where you had to learn a second language to be able to communicate to all branches in the same language.
Mephras
06-05-2008, 22:25
I'm for universal police. This is supposed to be a unified city after all. We can have districts, but they should be standardized. Can't have criminals running into certain districts to avoid the law, can we?
Sarrowquand
06-05-2008, 22:29
Guy form Prycuse steals something in a Zinaire district, and goes into a Prycuse district, then the Zinaire Police may not be allowed in the district. The they got to call the Prycuse Police and tell all about the guy that stole the candy bar form wal-mart. After thats all done he may be long gone or the Prycuse may not even go after him.

Hilarious, I can just imagine him unwrapping the candy bar just over the border and eating it and then throwing the litter back onto the Zinarian district's street, whilst the police are waiting for approval to chase him; or someone moving from region to region every week to distribute drugs.

-It would be nice to have a central Interpol/FBI building to coordinate over larger threats, perhaps even for criminals who have been operating between the different member nations territories.
Hisperians
06-05-2008, 22:33
Are you saing that the District police forces like the branches of a tree and the International City Police force is the trunk? (ooc: sorry for the bad analogy. first one on my mind.)
easier said than done. Think about the language barrier. Not all nations speak the same language. So with this program, where all officers operate under one system, then they could make it where you had to learn a second language to be able to communicate to all branches in the same language.
Perhaps we need a new thread for the language barrier in Prycuse International City. should there be a universal language?
Prycuse
06-05-2008, 22:33
yeah nice point. Ill work that out a little later if i can remember.
Sarrowquand
06-05-2008, 22:33
easier said than done. Think about the language barrier. Not all nations speak the same language. So with this program, where all officers operate under one system, then they could make it where you had to learn a second language to be able to communicate to all branches in the same language.

We could use our central university to train them in languages. Also cultural concerns i.e. why Sarrowquand's citizens are less likely to report drug use, or why certain police behaviour will spark a riot in one district when it would have been cheered in another.
Prycuse
06-05-2008, 22:34
Good point again!
Mephras
06-05-2008, 22:39
Why doesn't everyone just speak Pyrcusian? I mean it is your city. I'm all for my rights, but It shouldn't look like Shanghai in the late 19th century. We should focus on international mingling.
Kirav
06-05-2008, 22:44
I think contructing a whole new language is a wee bit overboard. I agree with using Prycusian( or whatever the language is) as the Universal Police language. My people refuse to speak English.
Sarrowquand
06-05-2008, 22:45
Happily whenever the NS language issue comes up I always vote to teach pupils six or seven languages. Our pupils pain is your international delight!
Prycuse
06-05-2008, 22:47
Are you saing that the District police forces like the branches of a tree and the International City Police force is the trunk? (ooc: sorry for the bad analogy. first one on my mind.)

Perhaps we need a new thread for the language barrier in Prycuse International City. should there be a universal language?

No; its all one thing; no other nation owned police; only a universal Police that is for or against any nation.

(if we did any thing with a universal language, then the whole project would erupt in a huge ball of flames; basically ending the project)

Why doesn't everyone just speak Pyrcusian? I mean it is your city. I'm all for my rights, but It shouldn't look like Shanghai in the late 19th century. We should focus on international mingling.

No; there is no such thing as Prycusian YET. Every one speaks the language from the nation they came from.

(OOC: Prycusians speak English for now)
Kirav
06-05-2008, 23:36
<cultural imperialism>

Or we could use my language, Coscivian! It's made using Latin/Greek roots and parts of sppeech are identified using suffixes. Grammer is the same as English, basically.

Alt, þú ablix utim kur linguv, Coscivlinguv! Vú er fárið utim Latilinguv/Hellinguv rûtav, eð portav áu oralinguv ie identitim utim termixlogav. Grämeruv ie té dorix par Anglolinguv, baisix.

</cultural imperialism>
Prycuse
06-05-2008, 23:39
Is it easier to learn than English?
Mephras
06-05-2008, 23:46
Crazily enough, my people refuse to speak Coscivian....
Kirav
06-05-2008, 23:50
Is it easier to learn than English?

Come to think of it, probably. The word construction is much more consistant. Plus, there's no verb-subject conjugation and the language is gender-neutral.

Crazily enough, my people refuse to speak Coscivian....

Reflects my attitude toward the Chinese language, it does.
Mephras
06-05-2008, 23:58
Come to think of it, probably. The word construction is much more consistant. Plus, there's no verb-subject conjugation and the language is gender-neutral.

Reflects my attitude toward the Chinese language, it does.

Mandarin Chinese is also gender neutral and has no conjugation. It does have plural subjects though. Mandarin is native to about 20% of my population. While my Empress is of Chinese ancestry, the nation largely speaks English.

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Prycuse
06-05-2008, 23:59
well were going to have to come to 1 language. Anyways its a second language! for the police! not everyone.
Zinaire
07-05-2008, 00:23
Well, Zinaire is fully English speaking and so are many other nations in the project (and we all speak English). So the Kiravians should suck it up.
Kirav
07-05-2008, 01:41
English it is, then.
Prycuse
07-05-2008, 01:43
I guess.... Ill wait till tomorrow to finalize this.
Avalic
07-05-2008, 02:37
I approve of this idea but explain how the citizens choose the sheriffs. I might go buy some Lyran Arms to stock up my police, but is the police from our country under our control and we can distribute arms to them and only them, unless of course were feeling generous?
Zinaire
07-05-2008, 02:39
I was under the impression that supplying the police would be handled at a standardized, city-wide level.
Mephras
07-05-2008, 02:40
I'm all for realism, but I don't really think the language matters. I'm more interested in RP quite honestly. We all RP in English, but if you want to say it's another language, I don't care.
Prycuse
07-05-2008, 03:16
I approve of this idea but explain how the citizens choose the sheriffs. I might go buy some Lyran Arms to stock up my police, but is the police from our country under our control and we can distribute arms to them and only them, unless of course were feeling generous?

Well they just do. Not much else to it....

If this passes there is no nation police forces only the city police force.
Layarteb
08-05-2008, 04:35
The International City is in very need of a universal police system. So all stations can be on the same page to catch outlaws. Basically be more coordinated with each other. The down side is the loss of some power over a nations districts. Not begin able to regulate the police.

The police system is maintained by no one. It is in now way linked to Prycuse any other nation. Only the city itself. Its sheriffs and such will be elected by the citizens not by leaders. (OOC: theres not really elections)

There is little not an extreme amount of money involved so no real affect on taxes.

Sheriffs that are elected is just a bad idea. I don't want a sheriff that is popular with a bunch of nitwits and who can give good speeches. I want a sheriff that studied, trained, and knows the law!
North Calaveras
08-05-2008, 04:37
city police but each nation has there own sherriff.
Prycuse
08-05-2008, 04:50
Sheriffs that are elected is just a bad idea. I don't want a sheriff that is popular with a bunch of nitwits and who can give good speeches. I want a sheriff that studied, trained, and knows the law!

Ok drop the whole sheriff thing. that really had nothing to do with the real proposal. it was just fluff to add some length to the proposal.
Kirav
08-05-2008, 23:12
I'm all for realism, but I don't really think the language matters. I'm more interested in RP quite honestly. We all RP in English, but if you want to say it's another language, I don't care.

I agreed to English. 'Tis unanimous.
Karat
16-06-2008, 20:24
I agreed to English. 'Tis unanimous.

Karat supports the universal police and i agree with that.
Prycuse
16-06-2008, 20:30
OOC: holy crap! how far did you have to dig to find this? (Sadly, Its dead)