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A few months ago there was a rather good roleplayed training war giving new Rpers a chance to learn the trade or allowing others to improve their skills further. I would like to offer that opportunity to players yet again who are looking to improve their skills. In this war RP you will learn how to properly write a interesting post, roleplay characters, learn basic military tactics in the modern NS world, play against experienced players whom are willing to help you at every turn, and otherwise have a really fun time.

The RP will involve invading an island [Aussieland for our purposes] for imperialist interests, In this case new players will initiate the invasion against three older players who are severely limited in troops and equipment. ;)

So sign up here!

I like it.

I want to participate. What does OOC stand for?

I wish to participate and kindly ask TPF if (s)he shall allow me to do so. In response to -Woodland-'s question, OOC stands for Out Of Character which means TPF is speaking as a player to other players instead of a country('s leader) to other countries (or their leaders).

-Woodland- I highly recommend you join the region of Rodinia, a region which I co-founded with Faxanavia and which is currently small in size. You would be a welcome addition, especially if you can write well which is valued due to the nature of our roleplay. I also recommend you join OSAFU, an organization designed to help new players and myself.

TPF: I'm up for it if you want

I can halp teeeepeeeefffff :3

I was gonna say I could help if you needed another big guy to maybe put one on each side, f'rinstace, but looks like I got beat to the punch ;)

I was gonna say I could help if you needed another big guy to maybe put one on each side, f'rinstace, but looks like I got beat to the punch ;)

O hay thar! It's an AB sighting. Haven't seen you in many of my threads lately.

If you want me around to RP an armoured regiment, or smaller (Hell I'd be happy to RP a tank platoon!) I might be interested. Need motivation to write again.

I need some help gaining more sufficient RPing skills, and I think, if allowed could be the perfect opportunity.

O hay thar! It's an AB sighting. Haven't seen you in many of my threads lately.

I've been around recently...me and Candistan have an earth coming up in the next few weeks ready to go, along with my character thread.

I'm up for it, I need some more RPing practice

oh im tagging this, not sure if i got time but i'll defiantly read it

Alrighty excellent.

So, for right now We have Greal, -Woodland-, Cazliea, and Holy Marsh? On the noob side. No set limits on "noobs".

And on my side we got Kampfers, Sumer, Izistan, and AB. Hmm.

I can roll wit' 'dat. Lemme go get Mr T.

Well, Since there's more than three guys who want to defend the island, I can help the noobs a little and go on their side. :p

Ok. Since we're limited, what should I go with? CSBG too big? Kind of depends on the scale you want us to RP on.

I was going to TG limits once we had the final players decided. I want this thread to linger at least for a few days to suck up more noobs.

Ok. Since we're limited, what should I go with? CSBG too big? Kind of depends on the scale you want us to RP on.

Definitely Flying Saucers

I'm interested.

I'm not much of a tactician, but I know I want, for now, a more defensive force so if possible I'd like to be part of the defence forces - maybe putting a few of my divisions on a major area the enemy has to seize, far from allied support, would work?

If I'm too big, I could be part of the invasion force instead - I just want to pick up and practise some tactical skills.

I'm always game for something like this. Been a while since I had a good old-fashioned scrap and I'll probably be a bit rusty, so I'll gladly help out the attackers.

I could go on the newb side, since I am, frankly, a newb, being less than one year old with RP skills that have much to be desired. At least I use proper grammar :p . I wil lieking corekt gramer usage.

Question: are we using Real life geography?

Oh, can i join?

i'l go on whatever side's disadvantaged now.

Yes, we will Greal.

I'll give this thread about one more day or so to linger and such up moar noobs D:<

Alrighty excellent.

So, for right now We have Greal, -Woodland-, Cazliea, and Holy Marsh? On the noob side. No set limits on "noobs".

And on my side we got Kampfers, Sumer, Izistan, and AB. Hmm.

What about me? I posted third. Would you say I'm on our side or the n00b side? I dunno.

The kingdom of Imbrinium would like to take part in the training exercise.

OOC is there any limits or do i need to have like a military factbook setup before i start this i'm working on it but hadnt put all the parts together yet.

Could I fight with the n00bs? As this would be a real big help in improving my RPing skills.

If Not all the spots are taken, would it be possible for me to send in a small force?(a regiment at most)

If I can, then I'll send maybe a small fleet of ships to help the n00bs. Its been a while since I've been involved in a good RP war.

Yes, we will Greal.

I'll give this thread about one more day or so to linger and such up moar noobs D:<

I'm in favor of Europe or Asia

I'm homeland-bound in Oceana (Australia, New Zealand, New Guinea island, Tasmania), so either really doesn't matter to me.

Well, Since there's more than three guys who want to defend the island, I can help the noobs a little and go on their side. :p

Don't worry TPF, I've decided I want to do no more then an armoured company (An "independent one, tanks, plus ARV, plus such, I can through out an OOB if needed, but no more then 28 vehicles). I need to work on my small unit stuff anyway. And would prefer to.

is this thing still open

if it is i would be willing to send a small Expeditionary unit of Royal marines to either attack or defend i'm not really bothered which

i've been on NS for i while but i've had all of one RP that went badly so i dunno if the qualifiers me as a n00b I'll leve it up to you guys to decide

The kingdom of imbrinium can commit 2 brigades and a company of special forces, all forces are airborne and have armor support.

Bump. Yeah TPF, I'll leave myself with only a naval deployment, a CSBG or a SAG if you would find the latter more appropriate.

OOC: I still suck at describing what I want to do, is it too late to join?

Nope. Tonight will be the last night for sign-ups. I'll post the intro tomorrow and talk to the non-noobs. I will be invading the island with the noobs.

It's not too late to sign up? okay then


/sign.

I guess i'll invade with the noobs, i fell like throwing a few hundred men at a beachhead.

Dammit, it'd better not be too late to join D:<

I've been playing Nation States for a while but I've never written in these forums before. Could I join the attackers, as I see this as a way to start writing in the forums. Maybe with three regiments of paratroopers. Once they parachute to the ground they would fight like regular infantry.

hey when we kickin this off

I'm still a noob and I can join.

Lulz, *points* noob!

But yeah, let's start this thing! :p

Lulz, *points* noob!

But yeah, let's start this thing! :p

Wel ur a n00b 2!11!!1

d00d u nub dont make fun of me or else ill n00k j00 with my 1501250761 nukes!

So, I guess I'm one of the "noobs"

TPF mentioned I could come here, so I'd like to get the Telrosian Republic into this.

A'ight, mostly b/c I ain't posting 'til tomorrow I'll be defending from Perth for the RP's sake. Probaly throw my defenders as an Assault Fleet and several wings of land aircraft.


Got so freaked when I saw Australia, since that's Amazonia's homeland, lol...as long as it ain't for keeps I'm down with it ;)

Hi. I am really the VDB except I lost my password. Now I'm a little 8mil nation! So I guess I'm now a n00b! Because I haven't done anything in a couple of months.

OK-I need to shake off the rust. I'd like to be with the n00bs, if it isn't too late.

i'll post my ORBAT here before i make an IC post so that people can decide if its ok or a bit over the top


ORBAT

Naval Forces(Royal Navy and Royal Reserve Fleet)

17th Carrier Battle Group

1 V class Armored Fast Battleship:
HMS Vampire (Flagship)

2 E class Heavy Fleet Carriers:
HMS Eschatologist
HMS Extinction

2 H class Cruisers:
HMS Hellfire
HMS Heresiarch


4 A class AAW Destroyers:
HMS Ascension
HMS Adamant
HMS Abaddon
HMS Angel


4 F class ASW Frigates
HMS Firefly
HMS Falcon
HMS Forrest
HMS Fallen

2 S class SKNs
HMS Savage
HMS Silence

1 U class SGN
HMS Unforgiven


7th and 9th Amphibious Landing Groups

4 City class LPDs
HMS Avalon
HMS Iynartha
HMS Agartha
HMS Hurgtha

2 Region class LHDs
HMS Elysium Fields
HMS Paradise Valleys


19th Support Group

1 (Militarized) Traveler class Roll on Roll off transport ship
RV Prime Mover

6 Wanderer class Under-Way Oilers
RV Harrier
RV Raven
RV Hawk
RV Swift
RV Eagle
RV Falcon

4 Hazard class Mine Sweepers
HMS MSC 12
HMS MSC 23
HMS MSC 7
HMS MSC 54

33 Ships in total



Ground forces (Royal Marines)

42nd Armored Cavalry Battalion

1st Company 25 FV8508s
2nd Company 25 FV8508s
3rd Company 25 FV8508s
6th Company Various Engineering vehicles, 6 FV8508 CATs and 10 FV8508s to replace those lost in combat

85th Infantry Battalion

1st Company 100 combat soldiers
2nd Company 100 combat soldiers
3rd Company 100 combat soldiers
4th Company 100 combat soldiers
5th Company 100 combat soldiers
6th Company 200 support personnel

67th Infantry Battalion

1st Company 100 combat soldiers
2nd Company 100 combat soldiers
3rd Company 100 combat soldiers
4th Company 100 combat soldiers
5th Company 100 combat soldiers
6th Company 200 support personnel

31st Mechanized Infantry Battalion

1st Company 7 FV3524s, 21 Vehicle operators and 112 combat soldiers
2nd Company 7 FV3524s, 21 Vehicle operators and 112 combat soldiers
3rd Company 7 FV3524s, 21 Vehicle operators and 112 combat soldiers
4th Company 7 FV3524s, 21 Vehicle operators and 112 combat soldiers
5th Company 7 FV3524s, 21 Vehicle operators and 112 combat soldiers
6th Company 10 FV3524s, 30 Vehicle operators and 103 support personnel

25th Mechanized Infantry Battalion

1st Company 7 FV3524s, 21 Vehicle operators and 112 combat soldiers
2nd Company 7 FV3524s, 21 Vehicle operators and 112 combat soldiers
3rd Company 7 FV3524s, 21 Vehicle operators and 112 combat soldiers
4th Company 7 FV3524s, 21 Vehicle operators and 112 combat soldiers
5th Company 7 FV3524s, 21 Vehicle operators and 112 combat soldiers
6th Company 10 FV3524s, 30 Vehicle operators and 103 support personnel

111th Airborne Cavalry Battalion

1st Company 4 MH-33 Sea Lions, 20 Vehicle operators and 96 combat soldiers
2nd Company 4 MH-33 Sea Lions, 20 Vehicle operators and 96 combat soldiers
3rd Company 4 MH-33 Sea Lions, 20 Vehicle operators and 96 combat soldiers
4th Company 4 MH-33 Sea Lions, 20 Vehicle operators and 96 combat soldiers



Aviation (Marine Aviation and Fleet Air Arm)

175th Tactical Naval Fighter Squadron
30 F/A-63 Peregrines

123rd Tactical Naval Fighter Squadron
30 F/A-63 Peregrines

207th Tactical Naval Fighter Squadron
30 F/A-63 Peregrines

342nd Tactical Naval Fighter Squadron
30 F/A-63 Peregrines

143rd Naval Strike Squadron
30 F/B-55 Rocs

148th Naval Strike Squadron
30 F/B-55 Rocs

279th Naval Strike Squadron
30 F/B-55 Rocs

89th Naval Strike Squadron
30 F/B-55 Rocs

72nd ASW Helicopter Squadron
10 ASW H-33 Sea Lions

68th ASW Helicopter Squadron
10 ASW H-33 Sea Lions

89th AEW Squadron
10 EW-307 Eagle Eyes

72nd Naval Supply Squadron
10 C-307 Cargomasters

Hey Volzgrad, who the hell are you fighting? You don't RP both sides, you know.

Volzgrad, as Kampf said, you only RP your own forces and not the enemies. No fighting has erupted yet. We're having commanders meet aboard my carrier, is all.

Hi. I am really the VDB except I lost my password. Now I'm a little 8mil nation! So I guess I'm now a n00b! Because I haven't done anything in a couple of months.

OK-I need to shake off the rust. I'd like to be with the n00bs, if it isn't too late.

?????

?????

Sure, go ahead.

lul too many nubs. *runs to get more vets*

Meh, could I join as a vet?

OK. Here's what I should have Navy-wise I think for an 8mil nation (thinking of Canada's navy-type size, since it's bulked-up in wartime)

12-Halifax Class Frigates
KEN Ines
KEN Ing
KEN Ason
KEN Omput
KEN Oevil
KEN Reat
KEN Community
KEN Vance
KEN Spint
KEN Ada
KEN Iebold
KEN York
4-Victoria Class Long-Range Submarines
KEN Jersey
KEN Sumner
KEN Uniserbus
KEN Sine
3-Iroqouis Class Destroyers
KEN
KEN
KEN
12-Kingston Class Defense Vessels (small frigates?)
KEN Ennis
KEN Typhon
KEN Seidon
KEN Ades
KEN Gaia
KEN Faya
KEN Ita
KEN Easpker
KEN Leb
KEN
KEN
KEN
3-Wasp Class Amphibious Assault Ships
KEN Whitehorse
KEN UFT
KEN
(and to make things somewhat fair so I don't get swamped)
1-Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier
KEN da Vincho
40 F/A-18 Hornets
40 C-2 Greyhounds(for landing stuff, power to land about 1000 troops)
3 Sikorsky Sea Kings
2 RQ-1 Predators

400,000 TROOPS MAXIMUM!

(Does that seem fair?)

you cant carry either C130 Hercules or B-1 Lancers on a Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier

Maybe not B-1s but yes C-130s!

Maybe not B-1s but yes C-130s!

No, not even C-130's. They're too big and require too long of landing strips and the arrestor cables cannot handle the weight.

Oh. Except for ...... Wikipedia!!! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-130#Operational_history)

Maybe I'll just switch to the C-2 Greyhound instead, anyway.

Oh. Except for ...... Wikipedia!!! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-130#Operational_history)

Maybe I'll just switch to the C-2 Greyhound instead, anyway.

Yeah. Greyhound is designed for it.

I'll just be fixing something, then.

I'm confused right now with all the IC action, what should me, n00b, be doing?

I'll just be fixing something, then.

I'm confused right now with all the IC action, what should me, n00b, be doing?

Right now, I asked all the noobs to send a commander over to my carrier so we formulate the strategy. Thus I am waiting for the defenders to post some of there actions and also allowing more noobs to show up.

One thing I think should be noted, and looked over, is the godmoding or near godmoding that's going on. Remember guys, take your time you're attacking with your allies, work with them. Also, you can't decide the losses your enemy takes.

right apart from a few helicopters and tilt-rotors my ORBAT is finished

I'll be posting an IC post soonish

Currently working on an ORBAT with Kampfers, it will be up ASAP.

And you lost me...

I was hoping this thread would tell me how to do stuff. And I don't know the jargon.

What's an Orbat?

What are we noobs defending?

HOW I DO THIS?

The People of Biafra are interested. Heck we blow alot of or gdp on the military so why not?

No, not even C-130's. They're too big and require too long of landing strips and the arrestor cables cannot handle the weight.

I happen to know that at least a Nimitz Class Carrier can land and take off
a C-130 cargo plane, it's the largest aircraft which can be launched from
those carriers, and does not require arrester cables because it's a short take
off and Landing plane.

Er, the C-130 can LAND, but it can't carry because there is not enough internal space nor is there a large enough elevator to store it. Yes, a C-130 can land and take off from a carrier t odeliver supplies - given there's nothing else on the deck - but it sure as hell can't be carried by a carrier.

TPF, if you want I'll be a technical advisor but I'm too lazy to actually RP.

C-130s are out then.

I'll make an IC post once I get all my military on Page 4 straightened out. Anybody want a ship named after them?

*raises hand*

Who are the defenders again?

how do i sign up for it?

*raises hand*

See! I ain't the only one with questions!!!

That was for someone asking to have ships named after them, not questions.

Here is my ORBAT, please tell me if there is anything wrong with it.

Telrosian Order of Battle

Ground:

-Infantry

--21st Mechanized Infantry Division (Hell's Bells)
--17th Mechanized Infantry Division (Angels of Death)

-Artillery
--34th Artillery Division

-Armor
-- 56th Armored Division
-- 8th Armored Division


Airforce:
-- 168 Hawker Cossacks
--80 FA 15 Cardinals
--24 E2C Hawkeye (AWAC)
--14 Westland Welling HAS.2's





Navy:

1 Ark Royal class Heavy Fleet Carrier, the TRS Defiant
-96 planes, 4 HELO
-- 58 Hawker Cossack S.2 Mk 2's
-- 30 FA 15 Cardinal
--8 E2C Hawkeye
--4 Westland Wellington HAS.2's

2 Triumph class Fleet Carriers, the TRS Majestic, and Starfall
-148 planes, 4 HELO
--95 Hawker Cossacks S.2 Mk 2's
-- 41 FA 15 Cardinal
-- 12 E2C Hawkeye
--4 Westland Wellington HAS.2's

2 Unicorn class Light Fleet Carriers, the TRS Destiny, and Guardian
-28 planes, 6 rotary
--15 Hawker Cossacks. s.2 Mk 2's
--9 FA 15 Cardinals
--4 E2C Hawkeye
--6 Westland Wellington HAS.2's

4 Admiral Class Cruisers, the TRS Mako, Seal, Savior, and Tsunami.

8 Town Class Cruisers (AAW)

14 Type 38 Destroyers (GP)

8 Type 31 Destroyers (ASW)

ooc: would like a list of attackers and defenders maybe helpful if we knew who was on who's side

who's the commander of the attacking force and who's the commander of the defending force?

Problem, Telros: E-3 Sentry is built off an airliner fuselage and is way, way too big to fit on a carrier so try the E-2C Hawkeye instead.

Thanks, Questers. Anything else you can see I need to fix?

who's the commander of the attacking force and who's the commander of the defending force?

I'd assume we'd be allies, so we wouldn't exactly command each other, just work together.

I'd assume we'd be allies, so we wouldn't exactly command each other, just work together.

there is always a commander even if allied, its called the allied commander, each country has its commander which answer to him it is also the country with the most troops deployed but not always. the reason we need a commander is for command and control of the battle space so we dont kill eack other just the enemy

two main Naval base are in NSW and WA

Volzgrad, as Kampf said, you only RP your own forces and not the enemies. No fighting has erupted yet. We're having commanders meet aboard my carrier, is all.


I'm sending the Commander in Chief of -Woodland-'s Armed Forces (WAF) John Upsilon to the meeting on your carrier. I am trying to get my forces numbered so I will post the list when it's ready.

And you lost me...

I was hoping this thread would tell me how to do stuff. And I don't know the jargon.

What's an Orbat?

What are we noobs defending?

HOW I DO THIS?

*raises hand*

Who are the defenders again?

how do i sign up for it?

ooc: would like a list of attackers and defenders maybe helpful if we knew who was on who's side

are you people just going to ignore questions?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555340

this is the battle space the link above. TPF is in charge of the attackers and i have no clue either what the orbat thing means.
i dont know who the defenders are Squirrels. i strated just by reading the opening on the link above and followed the story line useing my forces, thats about all i know squirrels.

An ORBAT is a document detailing your forces and organization. It shows the number of troops, unit sizes, breakdowns, and equipment types and numbers as issued.

wow i guess i need to draw one up then

are you people just going to ignore questions?

I said earlier, but i raised my hand WHEN someone asked "Does anyone want to have ships named after them." If I had questions, I'd asked them, like I asked Questers when he noticed the E3 problem.

Alright. It appears that there is some confusion regarding the attackers. I asked all attackers to send officers to my carrier so that we can discuss an invasion strategy while the defenders post. I think we're waiting for AB at this time. Again, Volzguard should not be invading at this time. Once I get all the attackers on my ships, we can proceed with actual attacks. For a good example of a post, look at Telros'.

OOC: do we post here or the other thread about heading to your carrier?

I want in on this please

Is it okay if my army isn't human?

Alright. It appears that there is some confusion regarding the attackers. I asked all attackers to send officers to my carrier so that we can discuss an invasion strategy while the defenders post. I think we're waiting for AB at this time. Again, Volzguard should not be invading at this time. Once I get all the attackers on my ships, we can proceed with actual attacks. For a good example of a post, look at Telros'.

Thanks. I try.

ooc my commanders are on there way to TPF's carrier

Is it okay if my army isn't human?

Depends. Normally this is frowned upon, however there are no significant problems with it as long as your creatures have no supernatural powers.

I did send my admiral and general to your carrier TPF.

I did send my admiral and general to your carrier TPF.

Right you did. I'm posting soon here.

Depends. Normally this is frowned upon, however there are no significant problems with it as long as your creatures have no supernatural powers.

They are just oversized sentient squirrels. Nothing supernatural.

TPF i sent my task forces command staff to your carrier

My General, Robin Barkwood, is on his way to your carrier.

ORBAT:

Squirrelian Navy-1 (SN-1):
Sea Hickory-1 Carrier
Maple-1 Troop Transport
Hornbeam-1 Destroyer

SSAF-1:
10 Assault Helicopters
4 Transport Helis
1 Recon Heli

SEF-1:
5 Regiments standard infantry
2 Regiments Mortar infantry
1 Heavy Battery.

Who's On Who's Side????

I've been kinda kicked in the teeth by Real Life stuff over the past few days, so I'll try and get an OrBat up soonish.

Tonight, hopefully.

Karullian Forces in Theatre:


Naval Forces:

Battle Group Alexander (http://z9.invisionfree.com/Karullia/index.php?showtopic=7&view=findpost&p=421886), commanded by Admiral Grant Hayward

Landing Force:

Expeditionary Task Force Delta, commanded by Rear Admiral Junko Ayama (KPN), Colonel Ryan Forgram (KPMS):

- 1x Wasp-class LHD (http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/wasp/) - KNS Haven (8x FA2 Sea Harrier, 4x Superhawk)
- 2x Albion-class LPD (http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/lpd/) - KNS Porter and Bluewater
- 1x Ocean-class LPH (http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/ocean/) - KNS Bay Of Karullia (9x Superhawkhawk, 8x Lynx)
- 2x Type 45 (Daring-class) Destroyers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_45_destroyer) - KNS Duty and Diamond
- 2x Type 23 (Duke-class) Frigates (http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/t23/) - KNS Mirielle and Makoto
- 400 Karullian Pathfinders (Special Forces Infantry, stationed aboard Haven and Bay of Karullia)
- 3rd Karullian Mechanised Regiment (2,000 men, 25x FV10 Warrior AFV, 68x HMMWV (various configurations), 5x Chieftain MBT, 6x Bedford 8t Trucks,2x Water Tanker, stationed aboard Haven, Porter and Bluewater

Woodland, first of all, you have to tell us how many aircraft are on your ships. The aircraft composition can vary - you can make them all Super-Hornets if you like, but you have to tell us. Second, where exactly are those:

F-35, 450
F-22, 200
B-52, 40

standing by at? Finally, that many land units would take a hell of a lot of amphibious transports. Hope that didn't sound rude or anything.

TPF, we really need to get this going........

They are standing by on -Woodland-'s mainland. For the aircraft on the carriors, 30 FA-18s and 30F-35s for each I guess. Looking back, I did have to many ground units, I will reduce it to probably 40,000 or 30,000 or less. I will try to get a revision on my military soon.

It seems that one of our veterans has left. I shall find a new one to replace him. In the meantime we will continue while I find one.

I can devote some aircraft and ships if you'd like.

I can devote some aircraft and ships if you'd like.

But then I'd actually be challenged at sea ;)

But then I'd actually be challenged at sea ;)

http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/economy/pictures/chicken.jpg

:P

http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/economy/pictures/chicken.jpg

:P

Lol, go ahead and post.

in light of this i'm going to have to mobilize my 2nd 3rd and 5th fleets

Won't be able to participate anymore, have fun. Hopefully I will be able to participate in other training wars.