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The Furry Genocide (Open, MT)

Greal
23-04-2008, 04:32
OOC: Continued from here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=554743)
IC:

No response came from President Martin Watson to the Cazelian president.

Sasha, Greal

Tens of thousands of furries died that night, being burned to death or stabbed. A hundred furries did try to fight it out by using knives stolen from a kitchen, but they were killed by automatic rifles. Greal troops were based around the capital, and the DEFCON alert was up to one. A week ago, only 10 percent of the population wanted the furries gone, now it was 65 percent, and increasing.

General Will Riddle sent a encrypted message to the Cazelians saying that he wanted to talk about the situation.
Mokastana
23-04-2008, 04:41
"Mr. President, the Furry Holocaust caused the death of an estimated into the tens of thousands. Our soldiers managed some crowd control, and to rescue a few hundred at the embassies, but overall it was a major failure."

"Damn, how the hell are we failing at this, bad enough the people are protesting support in TAP, but now they are going to want us to cut off from Greal for this incident."

"Very well Mr. Presidnet, what shall we do?"

"I will send out a statement soon."
Greal
23-04-2008, 04:45
Embassy Avenue

Greal troops were ordered to close down the embassy roads, after orders came through that the diplomats may be harmed by the protesters, like the Mokan incident of last year. Hundreds of tanks patrolled the streets, big Nakils drove through the streets, watching for any intruders.
Greal
23-04-2008, 04:49
OOC: Mokastana, What me to respond to your post in the previous thread?

I gotta go, I’ll be back in a few hours.
Cazelia
23-04-2008, 04:49
Sasha, Greal

"We've got hostile protests on our six, requesting immediate air cover over!" Yelled Foxtrot 7's radio operator
"Negative Foxtrot 7, all air assets are busy at this time, over"
"Sir, we have possibly armed assailants moving fast, I assume they're carrying AK-47 rifles, over"
"Roger that, checking for ground support...Negative, we have no support available at this time, over"
The young soldier deafened the radio with his chest and turned to the leader
"HQ has denied us air support, what should we do?" He asked
"We set up defenses and cut them off. If we lose one part of the line, we fall back a few hundred feet and hold the perimeter. We will continue the action until we reach that skyscraper in the center of our perimeter, and wait there for chopper evac. HQ won't leave us behind" He said
"So I should notify the troops?"
"Yes Corporal, those are your orders"


~Encrypted Communique~

Mr. Riddle, I have received your communique. You are truly the only Grealite I can trust in this crisis. Please reply to me as soon as you can, and I will open a secure video channel on which we can speak.

Sincerely,
James Hogart
~President
Mokastana
23-04-2008, 04:53
"ATTENTION CROWD DISPERSE AT ONCE! OR WE WILL USE FORCE!"

Behind the lines of soldiers armed with riot gear was another line with AM-07s with bean bags, them a large vehicle was opening up, it was a Silent Guardian microwave system for crowd control. If the crowd wouldn't listen to reason, then no doubt pain would have to be used. Sadly, it was the last resort. The last thing they wanted was more Neko deaths.
Mokastana
23-04-2008, 04:54
OOC: Mokastana, What me to respond to your post in the previous thread?

I gotta go, I’ll be back in a few hours.

OOC: sure
Greal
23-04-2008, 05:31
Sasha, Greal

"We've got hostile protests on our six, requesting immediate air cover over!" Yelled Foxtrot 7's radio operator
"Negative Foxtrot 7, all air assets are busy at this time, over"
"Sir, we have possibly armed assailants moving fast, I assume they're carrying AK-47 rifles, over"
"Roger that, checking for ground support...Negative, we have no support available at this time, over"
The young soldier deafened the radio with his chest and turned to the leader
"HQ has denied us air support, what should we do?" He asked
"We set up defenses and cut them off. If we lose one part of the line, we fall back a few hundred feet and hold the perimeter. We will continue the action until we reach that skyscraper in the center of our perimeter, and wait there for chopper evac. HQ won't leave us behind" He said
"So I should notify the troops?"
"Yes Corporal, those are your orders"


~Encrypted Communique~

Mr. Riddle, I have received your communique. You are truly the only Grealite I can trust in this crisis. Please reply to me as soon as you can, and I will open a secure video channel on which we can speak.

Sincerely,
James Hogart
~President

Will Riddle entered a house and he went into a room, which had a video screen. He pressed some buttons on his laptop and sent a message to James Hogart saying that he was ready for the "conference".
Cazelia
23-04-2008, 05:35
Hogart sat in his wheelchair, wearing a black suit with a red tie, which unintentionally made him look like Ronald Reagan.
"Will, It's nice to hear from you again. I need to know what's been happening to your government lately, it seems like there's going to be a civil war"
A hooded man stood behind Hogart, wearing what seemed to be an older IDMC uniform under his cloak. He did not speak a word.
Greal
23-04-2008, 05:36
"ATTENTION CROWD DISPERSE AT ONCE! OR WE WILL USE FORCE!"

Behind the lines of soldiers armed with riot gear was another line with AM-07s with bean bags, them a large vehicle was opening up, it was a Silent Guardian microwave system for crowd control. If the crowd wouldn't listen to reason, then no doubt pain would have to be used. Sadly, it was the last resort. The last thing they wanted was more Neko deaths.

Surprised, the crowd left and headed back into the city
Greal
23-04-2008, 05:39
Hogart sat in his wheelchair, wearing a black suit with a red tie, which unintentionally made him look like Ronald Reagan.
"Will, It's nice to hear from you again. I need to know what's been happening to your government lately, it seems like there's going to be a civil war"
A hooded man stood behind Hogart, wearing what seemed to be an older IDMC uniform under his cloak. He did not speak a word.

"There has been a shift back toward the Dictatorship government. It started after Martin Watson dissolved the congress. He has "purged" the military and replaced them purged people with his loyal supporters. Sarah Watson has been asked back as General in Chief. I avoided the purge by approving what Martin wants, but clearly, it has gotten too far." said Will
Cazelia
23-04-2008, 05:51
The man pulled back his hood, revealing his identity
"My wife will do no such thing. And if Martin tries anything stupid, I will be forced to act." Said Ingram "I will not allow this to go any further. We must alert the Hegemon at once so that we can stop this madness"
Hogart continued from there
"If he is allowed to turn Greal back into a dictatorship, I'm sure he'll cut ties to the Hegemony, join the AFA and the CA. I need your support on this issue, Will. We will not succeed in stopping this radical movement without it."
Greal
23-04-2008, 05:57
The man pulled back his hood, revealing his identity
"My wife will do no such thing. And if Martin tries anything stupid, I will be forced to act." Said Ingram "I will not allow this to go any further. We must alert the Hegemon at once so that we can stop this madness"
Hogart continued from there
"If he is allowed to turn Greal back into a dictatorship, I'm sure he'll cut ties to the Hegemony, join the AFA and the CA. I need your support on this issue, Will. We will not succeed in stopping this radical movement without it."

Will was quiet for a moment, then:

“You have my support, what do you need?”
Stoklomolvi
23-04-2008, 05:58
[OOC: Aw, no dictatorship? :( ]
Greal
23-04-2008, 06:02
[OOC: Aw, no dictatorship? :( ]

(OOC: You never know, Will is not that powerful.)
Cazelia
23-04-2008, 06:05
"I need you to inform us on his every move, increase police and military presence in Sasha to stop the genocide; you will be backed by my Marines and General Portman's National Guard. When he begins his regime change, we will have to act quickly." Said Ingram sincerely
"And Will, you must understand we are doing this for the good of the people, not to undermine the state of Greal" Said Hogart
Greal
23-04-2008, 06:08
"I need you to inform us on his every move, increase police and military presence in Sasha to stop the genocide; you will be backed by my Marines and General Portman's National Guard. When he begins his regime change, we will have to act quickly." Said Ingram sincerely
"And Will, you must understand we are doing this for the good of the people, not to undermine the state of Greal" Said Hogart

"There is a problem with that, I run only one field army. (600,000) I have to run my moves by the Military headquarters, and guess who is the future General in Chief."
Cazelia
23-04-2008, 06:18
"Aw, fuck. You've got to be kidding me!" Yelled Ingram "Then don't make it look suspicious or anything. We should try not to screw this up"
Greal
23-04-2008, 06:21
"Aw, fuck. You've got to be kidding me!" Yelled Ingram "Then don't make it look suspicious or anything. We should try not to screw this up"

"Ingram." said Will turning to Ingram, face to face." You've got to talk with Sarah, she had your child recently."
Mokastana
23-04-2008, 06:33
Surprised, the crowd left and headed back into the city

Surpised at how quickly the crowd disperced the soldiers ran in to help any wounded Anthropeople that may be left by the crowd. Around the embassy district Mokan forces were clearing out the crowds, trying to rescue wounded, be them Anthropeople or Grealite and get them to a hospital station. So far they were realizing one thing, even 60,000 men was not enough in a city this size.
Greal
23-04-2008, 06:39
Surpised at how quickly the crowd disperced the soldiers ran in to help any wounded Anthropeople that may be left by the crowd. Around the embassy district Mokan forces were clearing out the crowds, trying to rescue wounded, be them Anthropeople or Grealite and get them to a hospital station. So far they were realizing one thing, even 60,000 men was not enough in a city this size.

OOC: Sasha has 10% of Greal's population, or 214.5 million people. very big
IC:

Lots of furries were already dead. A few were wounded, but with knives stuck to them. A Greal civilian came out into the street and fired his two Glocks at the troops.
Cazelia
23-04-2008, 06:48
"Ingram." said Will turning to Ingram, face to face." You've got to talk with Sarah, she had your child recently."

Ingram twitched twice in rapid succession; His pupils had expanded as if he had smelled a rotting cow thigh at the back of his refrigerator. He turned pale and went limp, crumpling to the ground like a ragdoll. Hogart looked at him with with surprise
"I'm sure now that Sarah would listen to common sense, especially if it is coming from her husband. I assure you, Sarah will be one of our assets in this war"
Greal
23-04-2008, 06:59
Ingram twitched twice in rapid succession; His pupils had expanded as if he had smelled a rotting cow thigh at the back of his refrigerator. He turned pale and went limp, crumpling to the ground like a ragdoll. Hogart looked at him with with surprise
"I'm sure now that Sarah would listen to common sense, especially if it is coming from her husband. I assure you, Sarah will be one of our assets in this war"

"Yes, she would. If you want to contact her, she lives outside the city at West way." said Will,"Anyway, all my Major Generals under my command are loyal to me."
Mokastana
23-04-2008, 07:46
OOC: Sasha has 10% of Greal's population, or 214.5 million people. very big
IC:

Lots of furries were already dead. A few were wounded, but with knives stuck to them. A Greal civilian came out into the street and fired his two Glocks at the troops.

"damn it we got wounded over here, get the Ambulances up here ASAP!"

Both Humvees and Ironheart APCs rolled in, bringing out stretchers and medical staff. Soldiers watched over the buildings and scanned the running crowd. As a man raced up with Glocks to soldiers fired bean bag rounds into his chest. The Mokan's flak vest caught most of the rounds but a soldier took on in the leg.

"Fuck, I only get shot at by Grealites!"

This Ironheart division was one of the ones sent to Sasha during the Red Skull uprising, the soldiers were far to familiar with the city layout and plans on how to take it quickly, which is partially why they were stationed here at the permanent Mokan base. Ironically enough it was sent to Sasha because it was part of the peace keeping operations after the incident involving a down plane. These soldiers had been shot at by Grealites over the years countless times.
Greal
23-04-2008, 07:52
"damn it we got wounded over here, get the Ambulances up here ASAP!"

Both Humvees and Ironheart APCs rolled in, bringing out stretchers and medical staff. Soldiers watched over the buildings and scanned the running crowd. As a man raced up with Glocks to soldiers fired bean bag rounds into his chest. The Mokan's flak vest caught most of the rounds but a soldier took on in the leg.

"Fuck, I only get shot at by Grealites!"

This Ironheart division was one of the ones sent to Sasha during the Red Skull uprising, the soldiers were far to familiar with the city layout and plans on how to take it quickly, which is partially why they were stationed here at the permanent Mokan base. Ironically enough it was sent to Sasha because it was part of the peace keeping operations after the incident involving a down plane. These soldiers had been shot at by Grealites over the years countless times.

The person fell down, but then more of the crowd suddenly appeared. They were armed to the teeth and fired their shot guns at the Mokans
Mokastana
23-04-2008, 08:04
"oh shit"

the soldiers with sheilds and batons formed a front line protecting the wounded as the medics loaded them up. The shields were designed to stop anything up to a .45 caliber bullet. So shot guns at far off were hard hitting, but not life threating. Between the large shields the next line fired non-lethal rounds, however the next clips would be lethal if they fired all bean bags. However the key was the SILENT GUARDIAN Microwave Protection system. Mounted on top of a Ironheart to give it the height to get over the defensive line the microwave warmed up and fired non-lethal Microwaves at the charging crowed. After a few seconds their skin would feel like it was on fire, this combined with the firing would hopefully keep them off.
Greal
23-04-2008, 08:06
"oh shit"

the soldiers with sheilds and batons formed a front line protecting the wounded as the medics loaded them up. The shields were designed to stop anything up to a .45 caliber bullet. So shot guns at far off were hard hitting, but not life threating. Between the large shields the next line fired non-lethal rounds, however the next clips would be lethal if they fired all bean bags. However the key was the SILENT GUARDIAN Microwave Protection system. Mounted on top of a Ironheart to give it the height to get over the defensive line the microwave warmed up and fired non-lethal Microwaves at the charging crowed. After a few seconds their skin would feel like it was on fire, this combined with the firing would hopefully keep them off.

the protesters stormed into the former Cazelian embassy, and fired their guns from there, they were using assault rifles and pistols. One of them fired a RPG at one of the Mokans and at the Mircowave machine.
Mokastana
23-04-2008, 08:16
OOC: where are the greal defenders around the emabssies?

and info on the microwave (http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/silent_guardian/)

IC:

The bean bag rounds were spent, soldiers with riot shields held long enough for the RPG to crash into the line as another fired towards the SILENT GUARDIAN, The Ironhearts WATCHKEEPER Tracked the incoming projectile, and fired on it, the explosion saved the Microwave, but caused enough collateral with the medics. Three injured from the RPG, and two dead. As for the defensive line, eight dead and 23 injured, lethal force was authorized.

The 9x60mm guns mounted on both the Ironhearts and Humvees opened fire with heavy live rounds as the soldiers ran for cover. Those with shields ran to provide a bullet blanket for medics on the retreat, while the ones with rifles changed to live ammunition, Apaches were called in for air support.
Mokastana
23-04-2008, 08:18
OOC: where are the greal defenders around the emabssies?

and info on the microwave (http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/silent_guardian/)

IC:

The bean bag rounds were spent, soldiers with riot shields held long enough for the RPG to crash into the line as another fired towards the SILENT GUARDIAN, The Ironhearts WATCHKEEPER Tracked the incoming projectile, and fired on it, the explosion saved the Microwave, but caused enough collateral with the medics. Three injured from the RPG, and two dead. As for the defensive line, eight dead and 23 injured, lethal force was authorized.

The 9x60mm guns mounted on both the Ironhearts and Humvees opened fire with heavy live rounds as the soldiers ran for cover. Those with shields ran to provide a bullet blanket for medics on the retreat, while the ones with rifles changed to live ammunition, Apaches were called in for air support.
Greal
23-04-2008, 08:27
OOC: where are the greal defenders around the emabssies?

and info on the microwave (http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/silent_guardian/)

IC:

The bean bag rounds were spent, soldiers with riot shields held long enough for the RPG to crash into the line as another fired towards the SILENT GUARDIAN, The Ironhearts WATCHKEEPER Tracked the incoming projectile, and fired on it, the explosion saved the Microwave, but caused enough collateral with the medics. Three injured from the RPG, and two dead. As for the defensive line, eight dead and 23 injured, lethal force was authorized.

The 9x60mm guns mounted on both the Ironhearts and Humvees opened fire with heavy live rounds as the soldiers ran for cover. Those with shields ran to provide a bullet blanket for medics on the retreat, while the ones with rifles changed to live ammunition, Apaches were called in for air support.

The crowd of people continued firing, but then a new enemy approached, a convoy of Greal panther helicopters. The Panthers blasted apart the emabssy with its massive missiles and machine guns, protesters were running for their lives back into Sasha.

A Greal major landed onto the street, then he approached the Mokans

"Anyone in charge here?" asked the major
Mokastana
23-04-2008, 08:33
"Captain Ortega, D Company, we were sent out here to quell the riot and protect the embassies. Division Colonel Pancho Chavez is in the Mokan embassy working on the grand plan. Who are you?"
Greal
23-04-2008, 08:39
"Captain Ortega, D Company, we were sent out here to quell the riot and protect the embassies. Division Colonel Pancho Chavez is in the Mokan embassy working on the grand plan. Who are you?"

"Major Thomas, I lead the B company of the 67th battalion. I need to see your division leader now." said the major, sounding very serious
Mokastana
23-04-2008, 08:43
"you want to fly over or you need a lift?"

inside the Mokastana Embassy the armed to the teeth, Sheppards guarded the air, Wolfhounds guarded the streets and rows of infantry were on a shoot first policy.

As for the Colonel, he was on the phone with General Vasquez, the man in charge of Fort Mokan as they were relaying attacks, and the like. As of now he was setting up the artillery in Fort Mokan to be ready to fire on the city if anyone called it in. The orders hadn't gone down the line just yet that artillery support was available, but in a few minutes it would be.
Greal
23-04-2008, 08:48
"you want to fly over or you need a lift?"

inside the Mokastana Embassy the armed to the teeth, Sheppards guarded the air, Wolfhounds guarded the streets and rows of infantry were on a shoot first policy.

As for the Colonel, he was on the phone with General Vasquez, the man in charge of Fort Mokan as they were relaying attacks, and the like. As of now he was setting up the artillery in Fort Mokan to be ready to fire on the city if anyone called it in. The orders hadn't gone down the line just yet that artillery support was available, but in a few minutes it would be.

The Major waited for the colonel to finish
Mokastana
23-04-2008, 16:38
The Division colonel saw the Greal Major walk in and continued with the topic, at the end of the call he notified the general that a Greal Major walked in and he was going to see what they wanted and call back as soon as the meeting was over. He hung up the phone and looked pissed at the major in front of him, from what he was understanding the Greal army was still deploying, while the Greal police were doing shit. His beret of off center and his JadG pistol was still at his side, but unhooked and ready to draw. On the table was a map of Sasha and the surrounding country, with Mokan, Cazelian and Grealite positions and bases.

"Welcome Major, What are you here for?"
Red Tide2
23-04-2008, 21:33
Approaching Womer Airbase...

The 64th Strategic Bomber Regiment consisted of 48 SB-04 Strategic Bombers and 2 E-800 Electronic Warfare & Air Control System(EWACS) aircraft. Each bomber was lugging a full load of 500 pound bombs, for a total of 44 bombs per aircraft. This was the bomber strike force that Red Tide had asked to send too Greal.

"This is Alpha-Lead, 1st Squadron, 64th Strategic Bomber Regiment, Red Tidean State Aero Forces. Come in Womer Airbase, say again, come in Womer Airbase. We are requesting authorization to land & refuel in agreement of a previous arrangement with your government, over."
Tanaara
24-04-2008, 00:14
The Archon Robert Ryan Fortier- Hexx picked up the red line and spoke softly into it. Soon he would be connceted to the President of Mokastana. When they spoke he would offer the assisstance of the Tanaaran HNavys premier Taskforce - three specially constructed Hospital ships and the task force that protected them. The actions in Greal were clearly out of hand and he would offer what aide the Tanaarans had readily available.

Which was more than one might guess. Becuase currently the task force consisted of the entireity of Third Fleet, and a few extra vessels attached at the moment...

(OOC: I'll get the current Third Fleet Roster up shortly)
Mokastana
24-04-2008, 00:54
"Sir we have an incoming call from Tanaara."

"Who is it?"

"Archon Robert Ryan Fortier- Hexx"

"Send them through."

The phone on his desk rang and President Adam Jackson picked it up, a secretary brought up the file on Tanaara and any recent Mokan/Tanaaran relations.

"Hello?"
Cookesland
24-04-2008, 01:28
Ambassador's Office
006 Embassy Avenue
Sasha, Greal

Ambassador I. Vladimir Bovetoya looked out at the city there were flames coming from the fires around the city and the rest of the Embassy District. It had been a long night for him, longer than the night of embassy riots. Earlier in the day roaming bands of Grealites had the Embassy district and since then the Embassy had been on high alert.

He was concerned for the people of the embassy but also many of the metahumans who had come to the embassy district seeking asylum from pro-furry nations. There were Nekos, Kitsune, and other Kemomomimi now being protected inside the embassy from the muderous mobs roaming the streets. As night had fallen they found their way into the District, shouting for blood. The gates had been shut and the walls were being patrolled by Cookeslandic Marines.

Ambassador Bovetoya would have to decide soon whether to evacuate or not...
Tanaara
24-04-2008, 01:29
Unfortuantely the file would be very thin - Tanaara generally kept to itself, interacting almost exclusively with it's region mates, though it had provided troops and material to help restore order and government in the recent uprising in The New True Cross (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=541582) and more recently provided humanitarian relief in the St. Fabian Crisis (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=548516). The dossier would also note that Tanaara was condsidered to have one of the finest intellegence services about and had extensive orbital assets. Including space based weapondry.

The file would note that the Archon, (http://www.atddm.com/prr2.jpg) elected for life, had just recently ascended to the throne, which previously had been held by his mother Mercedez Merideath Hexx, until her abidication after twenty five years of prosperous rule. The Archon was part Imitoran, which to the knowledgeable might bring a pause - they were noteably warlike. In his early thirties, had been a multiply decorated officer priorly and held multiple degrees.

"President Jackson?" It wasn't really a question - the Archons voice was friendly, but firmly brisk. He wasted no time coming directly to the point. "I'm sorry to have our first conversation have such a dire subject, but we have been closely monitoring the sutiation in Greal, and your people seem to be in trouble - no insult to them, but several hundred armed and aggressive citizens, a government that apparently condones genocide and Red Tide two bombers make for something an Embassy force isn't quite equipped to deal with. We'd like to offer our help. We have the Third Fleet headed your way, providing protective escort for three of our Hospital ships."

And the information in the dossier about St. Fabian would tell him exactly why the specially designed hospital ships now had a full fleet was their escort. They'd faced Red Tide before and would not be taking that treachery and bloody nose again.
Cazelia
24-04-2008, 01:34
Sasha, 30 minutes after the destruction of the Embassy

"RPG! INCOMING!" Screamed Zakhaev as an RPG round flew over him and his squad, exploding several feet away. He didn't know if it it had killed anyone and didn't really care. He lifted himself long enough to sight in a target; The man seemed to be no older than 20 and no younger than 16. He hesitated until he say the man raise his gun, and a rush of adrenaline surged through him. Embedded four shots in the man; The assailant dropped to his knees and then to his stomach, dead. Zakhaev looked on in horror at what he had done and fell back into cover.

Zakhaev was at a position known as hill 90, a national park just south of the center of Sasha. A company of marines had held the position for nearly two days now, taking minimal losses and being re-supplied by a small helicopter pad set up a day before in the center of the park; a decent way away from the combat currently happening. Marine AV-8Bs had been flying sorties nonstop in a brave attempt to stem the undying tide of hostiles converging on their position. It was not likely they would survive the night without reinforcements from other bases in the region; which was unlikely.

But as Marines, they would fight to the last, and not dishonor their dead battle-brothers...
Mokastana
24-04-2008, 01:46
"I think you mean a few million angry Grealites. As for the embassy situation I have been informed by General Vasquez in Sasha that Sheppard Air Defenses are set up and declaring a no fly zone over the embassies. If it ain't Mokan or Greal it gets shot down no questions asked. Everyone else gets a warning, then a missile. As for the fleet, Sasha is a landlocked city. Wormer port is probably your best bet given the location of Fort Carson. However we do not know the extent of the riots and I would prefer to keep it solely in Sasha.
Greal
24-04-2008, 01:58
The Division colonel saw the Greal Major walk in and continued with the topic, at the end of the call he notified the general that a Greal Major walked in and he was going to see what they wanted and call back as soon as the meeting was over. He hung up the phone and looked pissed at the major in front of him, from what he was understanding the Greal army was still deploying, while the Greal police were doing shit. His beret of off center and his JadG pistol was still at his side, but unhooked and ready to draw. On the table was a map of Sasha and the surrounding country, with Mokan, Cazelian and Grealite positions and bases.

"Welcome Major, What are you here for?"

"Well, as you probable know, the protesters have already attacked, but I suspect they will strike again." said the Major

OOC: I won't be around long
Greal
24-04-2008, 01:59
Approaching Womer Airbase...

The 64th Strategic Bomber Regiment consisted of 48 SB-04 Strategic Bombers and 2 E-800 Electronic Warfare & Air Control System(EWACS) aircraft. Each bomber was lugging a full load of 500 pound bombs, for a total of 44 bombs per aircraft. This was the bomber strike force that Red Tide had asked to send too Greal.

"This is Alpha-Lead, 1st Squadron, 64th Strategic Bomber Regiment, Red Tidean State Aero Forces. Come in Womer Airbase, say again, come in Womer Airbase. We are requesting authorization to land & refuel in agreement of a previous arrangement with your government, over."

"This is Womer Airbase, we know about the arrangement, you have been approved to land."
Red Tide2
24-04-2008, 02:28
IC: The planes touched down without a hitch, they had flown over with bombs in their bombbay. The planes taxied over to their designated area for refuelling...

OOC: Mokastana: Can you provide a link to this 'Sheppard Air Defense System' you keep talking about? I want to get to know its capabilities.
The Grand World Order
24-04-2008, 04:14
GWO Embassy, Aust-

"So did you hear about what's going on in Sasha? There's supposed to be some huge rioting, and it's pro-furry scum versus anti-furries," asked an S.T.F. Embassy Guard over a session of armor customization in the Security Room. The guards were scratching phrases, emblems, and other objects into their armor, with phrases such as "War, Murder, Bloodshed" (The unofficial slogan-chant of the S.T.F.), "For the Spire!", and "Purge the Furry Scum!". The Leader of the Guard Unit had a swastika carved into both sides of his helmet, along with 31 tally marks. It was easy to tell him from the other Agents, as his helmet had a decent sized spike on top, like the Germans of World War One.

The room was alive with talk of the situation of the Furries around the world.

"Those Cazelians make me sick. Always trying to play policeman, then backing down when war is inevitable. They're risking millions of lives for a bunch of walking doormats. I'd love to just crack my MI-8 into their heads..."

"The Ryou, they're even worse. I heard they actually got a pro-furry alliance together. Their higher government is supposed to have a large amount of scumbucket rugs in it. No wonder they're failing to create an Empire. I can just picture ripping one of their skulls out with my bare hands, and that picture brings me joy."

"Heads up! Just heard the Mokans killed a bunch of Greal citizens to save more fur boots. What kind of leader lets this break out in their country?"

Those were only a few comments that the Agents in the room were discussing. The Agents described how they'd prefer to kill an enemy soldier when the time came in the most picturesque and disturbing details. Their hands clenched when they spoke of using Krav Maga and other Hand-To-Hand combat styles on enemies. All of this went on as the embassy staff, as well as the GWO citizens in the building, were oblivious to it.
Tanaara
24-04-2008, 04:41
"As for the fleet, Sasha is a landlocked city. Wormer port is probably your best bet given the location of Fort Carson. However we do not know the extent of the riots and I would prefer to keep it solely in Sasha."

"We can bring them in to Wormer if Greal will allow, or I can send in some heavy lift Anotovs to fly the injured or refugees out. Would that be better for your people President Jackson?" The Archon asked.
The Lone Alliance
24-04-2008, 05:19
-Message from the Lone Alliance

The Lone Alliance announces that all the Genociding nations are run by annoying attention whores. And that they aren't worth the oxgyen they breathe.
Stoklomolvi
24-04-2008, 05:30
- Message from Stoklomolvi

Stoklomolvi announces that all of the nations that protest the genocides are run by people who attempt to make themselves appear better by acting "all-righteous". And that they aren't worth the oxygen they breathe.
Cazelia
24-04-2008, 05:41
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z216/Cazelia/CazelianSeal.png

~Official Communique~

Then both sides are not worth the air they breathe, am I correct?

Sincerely,
James Hogart
~President
Tanaara
24-04-2008, 05:48
OOC the First : LA, we know what they are, there's no need to announce it.

OOC the Second : Stoklomolvi we know what you are, no need to confirm it.

OOC the Third - Hey Greal you don't happen to have a map would you? It would make things a lot easier to visualize.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.atddm.com/ntf1.jpg


Dear President Hogart,

Sir, Official Communications are not supposed to be humorous...or so I've been informed by my senior most secretary just before they took him to the hospital for chest xrays. The medics were concerned that he might have cracked his ribs with the force of his laughter.

Sincerely,
Robert Ryan Fortier~ Hexx
Archon
Stoklomolvi
24-04-2008, 05:48
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Stoklomolvi Secretariat of State
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 0, Null Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: General Statement

No sir, incorrect. We have not actually committed any genocides, and nor have we protested anybody. You sir, on the other hand, are not worth the oxygen you breathe for you do nothing but protest in the name of the rights' of furries. Why the hell do you even bother protecting the rights of these blasted things? If a nation seeks to destroy them, then so be it. Why bother protecting them? They are inferior to humans.

Regards,
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/images/Grigorsig.png
Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/images/Alexeisig.png
Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi

[OOC the First : Shoo

OOC the Second : Shoo

OOC the Third : Shoo]
Tanaara
24-04-2008, 06:00
Unto Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi

and

Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Minister of Foreign Affairs


Please, for discussions sake, advise us as to why you believe them - namely furries -to be inferior to humans?

Sincerely,
Archon Robert Ryan Fortier ~ Hexx

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

OOC: And no I won't shoo! LOL
Stoklomolvi
24-04-2008, 06:06
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Stoklomolvi Secretariat of State
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 0, Null Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: General Statement

Tell us, then O all-righteous protector of furfags, why they are not.

Regards,
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/images/Grigorsig.png
Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/images/Alexeisig.png
Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
Cazelia
24-04-2008, 06:07
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z216/Cazelia/CazelianSeal.png

~Official Communique~

Because in Cazelia, our values and morals differ greatly from yours. You believe that furries are inferior and must be killed, while we believe that all beings have the right to free speech, and more importantly life without suppression of ideals or discrimination; And those are just the most basic. Please understand that we are acting on our morals, and we do not disrespect yours. You have the right to do what you wish in your country, be it walk around naked or scream like a mentally deranged ape, but we will not tolerate a mass murder on our allies soil.

Sincerely,
James Hogart
~President
Silver Wolf Republic
24-04-2008, 06:12
To any and all who want it. I the great and wise Doc. Flackheart am offering a one time deal. Buy two tubes of Ebola get a free tube of Plague.
Stoklomolvi
24-04-2008, 06:13
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Stoklomolvi Secretariat of State
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 0, Null Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: General Statement

If Greal truly is an allied nation of Cazelia, then Cazelia would be respecting its decision, not countering it. Note that by considering the Greal cleansing of furfags a "mass murder", you are indeed imposing your values on your ally, seeing as to how by cleansing Greal of furfags Greal clearly does not hold them of high regard. Thus, should Greal truly be an ally, then you would leave it to do what it would wish to do, which is cleanse Greal of furfags.

Regards,
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/images/Grigorsig.png
Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/images/Alexeisig.png
Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
Cazelia
24-04-2008, 06:21
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z216/Cazelia/CazelianSeal.png

~Official Communique~

I will give you an example of what's been happening in Greal:
Yesterday, a patrol of Marines encountered a Burning, and shot the furry to put it out of the pain of the horrible sensation of burning (I've felt it before; 7.62mm Londinian filled with white phosphorus). The crowd then converged on the squad, killing three of the men by swarming them. The remaining marines were ordered not to fire on the civilians, and proceeded to move to the top of a building for evac. However, RPG fire forced the helicopter to pull back, and contact with the Marines was lost. They are presumed dead.
I assume, Commissar Stuyonovich, that as a military man you have been burnt at least once in your life, and you know how excruciating it is.
So take that into account when you say that the furries deserve to be burnt to death. Image their pain, and the immense amount of time it would take them to die.

Sincerely,
James Hogart
~President
Stoklomolvi
24-04-2008, 06:26
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Stoklomolvi Secretariat of State
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 0, Null Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: General Statement

To be burnt would be an understatement. Commissar Alexei has been completely immolated several times, on several occasions, namely during his early service in the military during training and during an actual war with rebelling Siberian Natives when they numbered only 20. If Greal wished to burn its furfags, then why hold its people back? If it is what they want, then you would respect their decision, if you are truly an ally of Greal. Your marines intervened where the Greal civilians did not want them to, and ended up paying the price in death. Leave Greal be, and all will be well.

Regards,
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/images/Grigorsig.png
Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/images/Alexeisig.png
Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
Xomic
24-04-2008, 06:53
OCC: I thought it was FT, not MT.
Cazelia
24-04-2008, 06:53
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z216/Cazelia/CazelianSeal.png

~Official Communique~

We do not intend to leave Greal alone for various reasons, our most major being returning Greal into an orderly, stable government chosen by the people of Greal. The one thing that we will never tolerate, as we have stated, is the murder of innocents, and we will use force to enact this.
I have a history lesson for you. A few years back the state of the Free Furry Islands declared itself to the world, and was invaded by Tocrowia, a fascist anti-furry state which killed at least 20 million civilians, with only 5 million escaping. However there was one more complication: A small nation known as Tartarystan sunk several unarmed hospital ships, and at the same time the AFA was founded.
What we fear most is that a situation similar to this may erupt in Greal. It's terrifying to watch history repeat itself even when you know you're doing all you can to try and stop the cycle.

Sincerely,
James Hogart
~President
Stoklomolvi
24-04-2008, 07:02
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Stoklomolvi Secretariat of State
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 0, Null Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: General Statement

Then we will be forced to act against you if you continue moving your men into Greal. We have signed a Mutual Defence Pact a while ago, and regardless of your morals, we will not allow Cazelia to impose its morals on a nation that clearly does not care about furfags and other worthless trash. Towcrowkia decided to invade a nation harbouring these furfags, and that is their problem; if they invade, then they have to deal with any problems, which would be few. Because of YOUR words, Hogart, you can live the next few years imagining that YOU were the LEADING cause of a genocide in Stoklomolvi starting at this moment. With this message, Hogart, YOU have caused a genocide against ALL furfags living in Stoklomolvi. Should you continue to attack Greal, we WILL intervene on behalf of Greal. Good day.

Regards,
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/images/Grigorsig.png
Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/images/Alexeisig.png
Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
Keilaniemi
24-04-2008, 07:05
OOC: To Stoklomolvi - in every conflict, there have to be two sides to a debate, otherwise it's not fun.
It would get boring really fast if everyone was anti-furry.

Now, there are alliances pro and contra - with people that don't necessarily care about the final goal of either alliance - and things are interesting...

Why try to change this fun RP conflict into simple arguing about furry freaks ?

And by the way, what is role-playing, in a game like NationStates, anything other than a form of attention whoring ?
Stoklomolvi
24-04-2008, 07:10
[OOC: ICly, my nation is like that. OOCly, I have no problems with anybody here. Besides, this conflict started because of furries, and so I make my nation display its "anti-furry-ness" to the world. My nation hates furries; others like them. That's fine with me. It's just my national IC stance makes my nation seem like an ass, which it is. :p ]
Mokastana
24-04-2008, 07:41
OOC: first things first Sheppard air defense system (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534192&postcount=1)

IC:


"We can bring them in to Wormer if Greal will allow, or I can send in some heavy lift Anotovs to fly the injured or refugees out. Would that be better for your people President Jackson?" The Archon asked.

"Whatever works best, I do not care, contact the Greal government, notify them that you are launching humanitarian flights into Sasha. I have an aide sending a message to the Greal Government that we are flying more troops in to protect Mokan interest, outbound plans will be full of refugees."


TO: Greal
FROM: Mokastana

Given the current situation in Sasha we have no choice but to airlift more forces into the city to ensure the safety of our embassies and other government installations. We do not wish to see a forth embassy burned down.

Mokan Embassy, Greal

"Well, as you probable know, the protesters have already attacked, but I suspect they will strike again."


The Division Colonel resisted the urge to mentally abuse the major for his more then obvious statement. With a less then competent Greal response on the board in front of him the Colonel assumed that his job here was to do the ones the Greal troops couldnt, like security.

"Now Major, I am sure you came here with more information then that, we have apaches on patrol, smoke and tear gas loaded into the artillery guns in the forts, on call to any Mokan patrol, as well as the general on the wire to get us some air support in the event the shit hits the fan. So what do really have for me."

Streets of Sasha

A Mokan patrol consisting of 5 Ironheart IFVs turned a corner and saw a mass of forces, another angry mob, they pulled back as the WATCHKEEPERS took care of two of the threeRPGs that were fired at them, the third, being the state of the art technology it is, diverted from course and crashed into a diner behind them.

"This is Mokan Patrol 157, corner of duce and Joker Street, we have an anrgy mob coming at us westard on Joker, requesting tear gas artillery at coordinates 128-331 north 243-501."

"Copy that patrol 157 tear gas launch underway."

With that 12 cannons from Fort Mokan fired and 36 tear gas rounds flew over the city towards the mob. Once at a certain hight the rounds exploded into clouds of gas, to settle to earth. Back at the patrols the units activated IR scanners and donned gas masks. They waited for the gas to settle.


OOC2:

as a fellow attention whore, I must say that all this furry crap does not deserve to breathe, because it takes the attention of off me!!
-Former political analysis now Crazy loon in Mejico City asylums,
Keilaniemi
24-04-2008, 08:02
[OOC: ICly, my nation is like that. OOCly, I have no problems with anybody here. Besides, this conflict started because of furries, and so I make my nation display its "anti-furry-ness" to the world. My nation hates furries; others like them. That's fine with me. It's just my national IC stance makes my nation seem like an ass, which it is. :p ]

OOC: :D OK then - Welcome to what will hopefully be "World War F" :) (if you know the reference...).
Imperial isa
24-04-2008, 08:16
Cazelia and Greal government's pfft Nuters

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t69/zxc_047/Imperial%20MT%20Navy-Army-Air%20Forces/NewMT-PMTMititarySeal.jpg
Greal
24-04-2008, 09:12
The Division Colonel resisted the urge to mentally abuse the major for his more then obvious statement. With a less then competent Greal response on the board in front of him the Colonel assumed that his job here was to do the ones the Greal troops couldnt, like security.

"Now Major, I am sure you came here with more information then that, we have apaches on patrol, smoke and tear gas loaded into the artillery guns in the forts, on call to any Mokan patrol, as well as the general on the wire to get us some air support in the event the shit hits the fan. So what do really have for me."



"I..." he hesitated, he was only a major, but he spoke," Well, my general opposes Furries, and I don't, thats why many furries have been killed on the streets, by Greal troops disguised as civilians. I believe that furries deserve a chance, but if no one in Greal wants them, then get them out of the country."

OOC: I'm gone for several hours and Cazelia and Stok are "yelling"
Mokastana
24-04-2008, 15:41
"Thank you Major, for something, useful here, do you have any information on how many Greal troops are hiding in the crowds, or who is supplying them with RPGs and machine guns? If not that is alright, however I must know what you can bring to the table, we have inbound flights with reinforcements, that will outbound be filled with these, unwanted types and their supporters."

OOC: funny ain't it?
Tanaara
24-04-2008, 21:09
http://www.atddm.com/ntf1.jpg

Unto: President Martin Watson
The Imperial Republic of Greal

From: Archon Robert Ryan Fortier ~ Hexx
Domination of Tanaara

Sir, having noted the unrest in Greal, and the unwarrented killing of 'furrys' -0which we protest in the harshest terms possible -We of the Domination would like to be allowed to bring in humnaitarian aide - flights of specially designed cargo planes equipped with medical and housing facilities- to render medical aid to those wounded, and to fly our your remianing population of 'furries' to land where they will be welcome and able to live out a full and secure life.

Further more we of the Domination stand ready to offer you financial recompense for their exodus.We will trahnsfer to the Greal Government, with no other limitations, $34,000 USD for every uninjured 'furry' -male, female, child, and elder.

By my Hand,

Robert Ryan Fortier ~ Hexx

"There. Get that to President Wilson immediately" The Archon's voice was cold and his face hard "A bribe is a bribe no matter how you dress it and this disgusts me to no end." But he would do it because it wasn't time for a war...just yet.
Red Tide2
24-04-2008, 23:01
After the Red Tidean bombers had refuelled and now taxied over to their take-off runway. One by one they sped down the runway and climbed up to a altitude of 35,000 feet(10,668 meters). It was a unfortunate coincidence that the Surface-Air Missiles the Mokastanans were deploying could only hit targets at approximately 29,000 feet(9,000 meters). The Mokastanans would be able to see the inbound as they came in, but there was little they could do to stop them from the ground.

The bombers were now approaching the no-fly zone Mokastana had declared around the Greal Embassy District. The regiments targets were the Cazelian Forces staging area. The 48 bombers moved in, while the 2 EWACS broke-off and held position on the edge of the city, watching the skies up too 900 kilometers away for hostile fighters.
Tanaara
24-04-2008, 23:34
High above in an obrital platform that shall not be named, a pair of Junior Decurion's looked at each other and just shook their heads.

"Allowing a third party to bomb your nation and other nations's ambassadors."

"Comeplete abbrogation of diplomatic immunity. Not a nation will trust them to keep their ambassadors safe from now on."

The first one nodded, her blonde ponytail swaying as she did so. She reached over and tugged her fellow officer's - and good friend's- tail gently "Just be glad that you don't live among such scum."

He laughed, his whiskers twitching "Oh I am, but I'd wonder how they'd act if Senior Centurion Lambda shifted on them. I wonder how much a nearly hundred foot long Dragconic would be to their taste?"

"I be he'd find them crunchy and good with ketchup" the blonde grinned wickedly. "Want a bet on how long before these Ambassadors get recalled?"

"Against you? Nope."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

OOC: Greal is a perfect example of the R2P (Responsibility to Protect) doctrine that states that countries not only have a right to intercede in places where gross violations of human rights and civil liberties are being conducted (i.e. genocide), they have a duty to do so. In other words, all other venues of normal soft power diplomacy has been exhausted or has been completely ineffective thus warranting drastic action. It is a gross humanitarian crisis that requires assistance immediately.

bolding mine, and the words are from some one far more eloquent than I
Mokastana
25-04-2008, 00:23
After the Red Tidean bombers had refuelled and now taxied over to their take-off runway. One by one they sped down the runway and climbed up to a altitude of 35,000 feet(10,668 meters). It was a unfortunate coincidence that the Surface-Air Missiles the Mereshkans were deploying could only hit targets at approximately 29,000 feet(9,000 meters). The Mereshkans would be able to see the inbound as they came in, but there was little they could do to stop them from the ground.

The bombers were now approaching the no-fly zone around the Mereshkans had declared around the Greal Embassy District. The regiments targets were the Cazelian Forces staging area. The 48 bombers moved in, while the 2 EWACS broke-off and held position on the edge of the city, watching the skies up too 900 kilometers away for hostile fighters.

OOC: point of clarification, who are the Mereshkans?
Yanitaria
25-04-2008, 00:40
OOC: This is not a really meaningful post, as I think this anti-furry fad is asinine.
But the fact that it seems to be IC has prompted me to post a withdrawal of my ambassador. I am not going to contribute to this anti-furry non-sense, though, so the following post is intentionally brief and shit poor.

IC: As protests and unrest began to rise in Greal, the Yanitarian Ambassador fled the country. It is unknown whether the URPY intends to send the ambassador back, considering the amount of warfare that seems to be facing Greal.

And they all lived happily ever after. FIN.
Red Tide2
25-04-2008, 00:49
OOC: point of clarification, who are the Mereshkans?

doh!

I was thinking of someonelse with a similar name when I wrote that... fixed.
Mokastana
25-04-2008, 01:15
OOC: This is not a really meaningful post, as I think this anti-furry fad is asinine.
But the fact that it seems to be IC has prompted me to post a withdrawal of my ambassador. I am not going to contribute to this anti-furry non-sense, though, so the following post is intentionally brief and shit poor.

IC: As protests and unrest began to rise in Greal, the Yanitarian Ambassador fled the country. It is unknown whether the URPY intends to send the ambassador back, considering the amount of warfare that seems to be facing Greal.

And they all lived happily ever after. FIN.

OOC: yeah it kinda is, but I dont mind RPing it, if it isn't furries its another group, next month it will be militarist, how about that Greal, your people riot to get rid of the army....that would be crazy.

IC:

After the Red Tidean bombers had refuelled and now taxied over to their take-off runway. One by one they sped down the runway and climbed up to a altitude of 35,000 feet(10,668 meters). It was a unfortunate coincidence that the Surface-Air Missiles the Mokastanans were deploying could only hit targets at approximately 29,000 feet(9,000 meters). The Mokastanans would be able to see the inbound as they came in, but there was little they could do to stop them from the ground.

The bombers were now approaching the no-fly zone Mokastana had declared around the Greal Embassy District. The regiments targets were the Cazelian Forces staging area. The 48 bombers moved in, while the 2 EWACS broke-off and held position on the edge of the city, watching the skies up too 900 kilometers away for hostile fighters.

What the bombers did not count on though was Fort Mokan, Mokastana had come in prepared for anything, for this was Greal after all. One standard LY471 "Skyguard" Division (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=539827&postcount=1) was stationed here. Split between Fort Carson and Fort Mokan, 6 of the 9 brigades were in Fort Mokan, given that most of the troops were stationed there and the Mokan military airport was there, as Mokan transports flew in reinforcements and pulled out refugees. The transports were Ilyushin Il-76s escorted by Sukhoi Su-35s on a 2 to 1 basis. Every so often a Il-76 would fly in more fuel for the planes to refill on before the flight back home.

As the bombers approached the no fly zone they were radioed:

"Unidentified aircrafts this it Fort Mokan, you are approaching a NO FLY ZONE over the embassy Complex, to avoid an international Incident we need you to turn back or we will fire upon you. This is your only warning. Identify yourselves and turn around. Over."
Imperial isa
25-04-2008, 01:21
ooc Greal a nation that lead flys and bombs fall, just about every week
Red Tide2
25-04-2008, 01:25
What the bombers did not count on though was Fort Mokan, Mokastana had come in prepared for anything, for this was Greal after all. One standard LY471 "Skyguard" Division (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=539827&postcount=1) was stationed here. Split between Fort Carson and Fort Mokan, 6 of the 9 brigades were in Fort Mokan, given that most of the troops were stationed there and the Mokan military airport was there, as Mokan transports flew in reinforcements and pulled out refugees. The transports were Ilyushin Il-76s escorted by Sukhoi Su-35s on a 2 to 1 basis. Every so often a Il-76 would fly in more fuel for the planes to refill on before the flight back home.

OOC:... Do you have a prior post elsewhere deploying those SAMs to this Fort Mokan? I do not see any on this thread...

EDIT: And is your purchase of that system elsewhere? I do not see any post by you in that thread.
Greal
25-04-2008, 01:56
Message to Tanaara

We wish to give our remaining furries to you, to end this “war”. We have around 10 million Furries currently.

OOC: I know its a sucky post.
The Grand World Order
25-04-2008, 01:56
To: Cazelia
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs

Your attempts to stop the world-wide termination of the pathetic Furry race are sickening. You only push around those whom you know cannot effectively fight back. Greal fits into this category because they recently changed their government, and fought numerous wars in their homelands recently.

As for the genocide in the GWO...

Only 5% of the Furry population remains. 89% have been executed, 6% have been shipped to other nations, where they were either killed for sport, killed for money, put into forced labor, or experimented on. You failed. You failed to save millions of Furries. Yet, to save a substantially less amount of furries [than we had in our nation when you threatened action], you're willing to risk more lives than you would have if you tried to stop us. You truely are cowardly, and how any nation can possibly look up to you is beyond our calculations.

On a side note about the genocide against Free Furry Islands...

Glad they did that.
Imperial isa
25-04-2008, 02:05
EDIT: And is your purchase of that system elsewhere? I do not see any post by you in that thread.

OOC tryed looking at the storefront thread
Mokastana
25-04-2008, 02:13
OOC:... Do you have a prior post elsewhere deploying those SAMs to this Fort Mokan? I do not see any on this thread...

EDIT: And is your purchase of that system elsewhere? I do not see any post by you in that thread.

OOC: well this is my first RP using Fort Mokan, and since there was no air threat I never thought to mention them, but think about it, if I have 80,00 men stationed in Greal, why wouldn't I have heavy AA defense.

as for the purchase, looking it up now
Greal
25-04-2008, 02:14
"Thank you Major, for something, useful here, do you have any information on how many Greal troops are hiding in the crowds, or who is supplying them with RPGs and machine guns? If not that is alright, however I must know what you can bring to the table, we have inbound flights with reinforcements, that will outbound be filled with these, unwanted types and their supporters."

OOC: funny ain't it?

"Probably around a full division, or 30,000 troops hiding in those civilians."
Red Tide2
25-04-2008, 02:22
OOC: well this is my first RP using Fort Mokan, and since there was no air threat I never thought to mention them, but think about it, if I have 80,00 men stationed in Greal, why wouldn't I have heavy AA defense.

as for the purchase, looking it up now

OOC: 80,000 men... yeah, you would have some, but probably not alot... oh well. It is not a big deal.

IC: The message came in... and a few seconds later, the EWACS flipped on their jammers and moved into cover the bombers. The Mokastanan RADAR scopes would become nothing but a haze of snow as the jammers which (per typical Red Tidean Doctrine) were powerful to the point of overkill.

However, the jamming also made the RADAR bombscopes on the SBO-04's useless. They would have to resort to regular telescopic bombsights when they made the bombing run. The planes continued on into the No-Fly-Zone, protected from beyond-visual range attack by a tornado of electronic noise.

EDIT: OOC2: Wait, first RP using Fort Mokan? Where is Fort Mokan? In Mokastana?
Mokastana
25-04-2008, 02:25
my purchase of the Skygaurds:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=541320&highlight=lyras&page=13

post number 188, dated January 23 2008
Mokastana
25-04-2008, 02:56
OOC: 80,000 men... yeah, you would have some, but probably not alot... oh well. It is not a big deal.

IC: The message came in... and a few seconds later, the EWACS flipped on their jammers and moved into cover the bombers. The Mokastanan RADAR scopes would become nothing but a haze of snow as the jammers which (per typical Red Tidean Doctrine) were powerful to the point of overkill.

However, the jamming also made the RADAR bombscopes on the SBO-04's useless. They would have to resort to regular telescopic bombsights when they made the bombing run. The planes continued on into the No-Fly-Zone, protected from beyond-visual range attack by a tornado of electronic noise.

EDIT: OOC2: Wait, first RP using Fort Mokan? Where is Fort Mokan? In Mokastana?

OOC2: Fort Mokan is connected to Sasha, since we have lost two or three embassies in Sasha we have installed the bases in there, check the Leocardian Invasion thread, the last post is a quickie saying we are putting them there.

ohh and an exerpt from the SkyGaurd information:

As well as radar, the fire control system on the Skyguard also has an electro-optic channel with long-wave thermal imager and infrared direction finder, including digital signal processing and automatic target tracking.

also how many planes is that?

IC:

"Shit, they are jamming the RADAR"

"How badly?"

"Pretty bad sir, switching to IR Scanners sir."

"Well I do believe that is an act of agression, failure to respond and activating jammers against us while not changing course. Does long range Thermals show they are still on course?"

"Yes sir, along with visual confirmation from scouts in Sasha"

"Very well, launch LY4031s, sent to home in on jammers, start with 30. As for the rest, launch another 30 guided from our Long range IR. It wont do much, but hopefully scare them off, reload those launchers immediately. Also, pull some SU-35 escort to intercept them. They have R-27s right?"

"Yes sir."

"Good"


From the walls of Fort Mokan 60 missiles flew out. 30 seeking out jammers, and 30 seeking heat signatures, guided by the base. Along with those two flight teams of 5 Su-35s turned to intercept the bombers.
Cazelia
25-04-2008, 05:32
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~Official Communique~

To the Grand World Order:
I am growing tired of your constant dick-waving on the international stage, acting as if your nation of not even a billion thinks you could overpower the 2.5 billion man Imperial Democracy, along with the UCRC and the Hegemony. I would not hesitate to crush your pathetic, puss-spewing excuse of a nation like a bug. I am also growing tired of your nation putting my people into forced labor camps; Either this action will stop, or I will liberate my people from your clutches.
Am I quite clear enough for your shit of a mind, GRIFFITH-II?

Sincerely,
James Hogart
~President

OOC: Hogart's first insult spree! w00t!
The Grand World Order
26-04-2008, 00:31
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~Official Communique~

To the Grand World Order:
I am growing tired of your constant dick-waving on the international stage, acting as if your nation of not even a billion thinks you could overpower the 2.5 billion man Imperial Democracy, along with the UCRC and the Hegemony. I would not hesitate to crush your pathetic, puss-spewing excuse of a nation like a bug. I am also growing tired of your nation putting my people into forced labor camps; Either this action will stop, or I will liberate my people from your clutches.
Am I quite clear enough for your shit of a mind, GRIFFITH-II?

Sincerely,
James Hogart
~President

OOC: Hogart's first insult spree! w00t!

To: James Hogart
From: Grand Commander GRIFFITH-II

I am growing tired of your policeman attitude, Mr. Hogart. While you definately have numbers on your side, my nation is fortified beyond the point of excessive defences. Actually, your numbers aren't even superior, for if I cannot fight you alone, I can call on my allies, who's combined populations and armed forces can make you and all of your allies look like nothing at all. And forced labor is standard procedure for all detainees, ranging from basic burglars to terrorists. Don't worry, only the trouble making Cazelians are being put on Heavy Industry production. I do have to comment on their obedience, a simple crack of a whip or strike with a baton seems to get them to work harder, and we've only had to execute 32 for intentional sabotage, which is counted as Conspiracy Against the Fascist Federation of The Grand World Order, obviously a capital crime.

Any ground forces you send will be so mentally devastated that they will have to be locked in a psycho ward. I can assure you, while it is feasable for you and your allies to defeat me, it would not come without a mind-boggling toll against you.

You will cease your actions against Greal, or else all of your citizens in my nation will be worked even harder and put onto Heavy Industry, building more equipment for my military. They will be fed and watered, but clearly, dealing with such machines and whatnot can't be safe or good for health.

Also, it's considered rude to address me by my Clone Operational Name without adding my rank as a prefix. Had you been in my nation and in the presence of a Civilian Control Officer, the said officer would be heavily offended and use his non-lethal weaponry on you.
Tanaara
26-04-2008, 01:56
Message to Tanaara

We wish to give our remaining furries to you, to end this “war”. We have around 10 million Furries currently.


Unto: President Martin Watson
The Imperial Republic of Greal

From: Archon Robert Ryan Fortier

Done!

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An Message - broadcast in the clear to Cazellia, Mokastana, Red Tide, GWO and any others having their fingers in this pie.

We, the Domination of Tanaara, have been given the Furries of Greal. We are coming in to get them and ANYONE who endangers this humanitarian effort will be glassed with extreme prejudice. I am sick and tired of all of ya'lls posturing and bellicose actions. And GWO, threatening to make Cazelian citizens in your nation suffer just makes you as childish and petty as the numbered one.

Greal, the shit storm that has hit your nation is as much your own doing as anyones elses. I'd strongly suggest that you tell Red Tide to get the hell out of your nation and try and mend the fences your intolerance has brought about. You say you don't want anyone but humans in your nation? Fine, we'll take the survivors out and you keep any more from immigrating.

I think you can be better than that, that you can rightfully take a place on the world stage as a worthy nation, perhaps some day a great nation. But it has to be earned. And I did offer payment. 3.4 trillion USD will be transfered to your nation immediately.

Flights of Anatovs and passenger configured 747's will begin airlifting those around Shasha immediately. We will have ships at Port Wormer as fast as they can get there.

Archon

Rober Ryan Fortier~ Hexx
The Lone Alliance
26-04-2008, 02:23
Also, it's considered rude to address me by my Clone Operational Name without adding my rank as a prefix. Had you been in my nation and in the presence of a Civilian Control Officer, the said officer would be heavily offended and use his non-lethal weaponry on you.

Message to the grand world order from The Lone Alliance:
GRIFFITH-II, GRIFFITH-II, GRIFFITH-II! Look at us we're mocking your name, what you going to do about it? We don't have people in your worthless sh*thole you call a nation. You and the rest of your geneticly inferior drones are seen as nothing more than an amusement by people in our nation, your murders are seen as simply the pathetic actions of a sad lonely little man who has a small dick. Noq go BAWWWWW to your allies because we told you how worthless you really are. In summary, Kiss our ass GRIFFITH-II.

PS: May I remind you that unlike Cazelia we are 6 times your size and have been at the business of warfare for centuries. Do not fuck with us. Here's what happened to the last guy who did: Picture of the Nation of Kravania post TLA\Kravaia war attached.(Satellite view of 2000 miles of Nuclear Wasteland.)

And as for your defenses: *Picture of the 800mm Gustav* We have ways of getting through that.


-Lone Alliance Ministry of dealing with Stupid\Evil nations.
Red Tide2
26-04-2008, 02:48
The two Red Tidean EWACS did not stand a chance... the RADAR picture cleared to reveal that the remaining 48 planes had ejected flares and chaff to fool the inbound SAMs. It worked... mostly, two more bombers went down, spiralling out of control. The remaining bombers moved ahead for awhile... but then swung around and headed off towards the coast.

It had nothing to do with the missiles. The Totalitarian State had aborted the mission, the crisis was pretty much over. Greal was letting the Anthro's leave. The Red Tidean Battlegroups and transports that were midway to Greal were turning around.

OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM TSRT GOVERNMENT
"Due to the Grealite agreement with the Tanaaran's, we are standing down and withdrawing our forces. We suggest Cazelia do the same as the crisis has essentially ended."
End Statement
Tanara
26-04-2008, 02:55
OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM TSRT GOVERNMENT
"Due to the Grealite agreement with the Tanaaran's, we are standing down and withdrawing our forces. We suggest Cazelia do the same as the crisis has essentially ended." End Statement

Thank you TSRT for you clear headedness in this matter. Would you like to sell your remaining furries as well? One of our regional brothers, TMZ, is offering to pay $30,000 each for uninjured furries and remove them from your nation.

Archon

Robert Ryan Fortier ~ Hexx
The Grand World Order
26-04-2008, 03:06
Message to the grand world order from The Lone Alliance:
GRIFFITH-II, GRIFFITH-II, GRIFFITH-II! Look at us we're mocking your name, what you going to do about it? We don't have people in your worthless sh*thole you call a nation. You and the rest of your geneticly inferior drones are seen as nothing more than an amusement by people in our nation, your murders are seen as simply the pathetic actions of a sad lonely little man who has a small dick. Noq go BAWWWWW to your allies because we told you how worthless you really are. In summary, Kiss our ass GRIFFITH-II.

PS: May I remind you that unlike Cazelia we are 6 times your size and have been at the business of warfare for centuries. Do not fuck with us. Here's what happened to the last guy who did: Picture of the Nation of Kravania post TLA\Kravaia war attached.(Satellite view of 2000 miles of Nuclear Wasteland.)

And as for your defenses: *Picture of the 800mm Gustav* We have ways of getting through that.


-Lone Alliance Ministry of dealing with Stupid\Evil nations.

To: The TLA
From: Grand Commander GRIFFITH-II

Who DOESN'T have 800mm shells? Those were invented in the earlier half of the 20th century, and the Gustav is inefficient compared to modern weaponry.

Lemme tell you this. A single one of our anti-ship missiles is more devastating than an underwater minefield. Our cities are built with not only enhanced artillery cannons that can outclass the 800mm, but so many ground, anti-air, and missile defense systems that to succeed in taking a single city, you'd have to spend more resources than needed for most entire wars.

Your immaturity is amusing, and so is your apparent sucking up to Cazelia.
Atruria
26-04-2008, 03:27
Official Statement
__________
HM Foreign Office

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Despite several requests, and concerns for the safety of Atrurian citizens and diplomatic officers inside the Atrurian embassy in Greal, the Greater Empire of Atruria shall remain stalwart in keeping our embassy open, officially declaring it a place of refuge for Grealian furries and humans that want no part in this bloodshed. They will be allowed to take shelter in our embassy for the duration of this conflict. If they so desire, they will also be permitted to claim political asylum and gain Atrurian citizenship.

However, in order to ensure the protection of our staff and these refugees, we are reinforcing the security of our embassy. As of now, elements of the 9th Parachute Brigade are preparing to make a jump into the embassy to support the soldiers Gurkha Guards already present. This will, of course, require that an Atrurian transport fly over Grealian airspace. It will do so, with an escort of several fighters. We do not intend harm to Greal or anyone in this conflict zone. However, if a single Atrurian life is harmed, the full military might of the Atrurian Empire will be brought to bear against the aggressor.
Yours,

Lord Benjamin Kitchener,
Deputy Secretary for the Foreign Office
Tanaara
26-04-2008, 03:33
The Queen Mother, Mercedez Merrideath Hexx, looked over the intercepted transmissions that her son the Archon handed her as they sat down to lunch. She promptly doubled over with laughter...

"Oh great gnus Rob, they sound like a pack of little bully boys out to prove who tough they are." She managed to choke out.

After she'd sobered a bit she read the last intercept for Aturia "Now the Atrurian's are acting in a manner that has my respect. I hope the Greali appreciate it."

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todays One Big Happy strip... not my art, do not own and will make no profit off of this... but boy is it appropriate...
The Lone Alliance
26-04-2008, 04:08
To: The TLA
From: Grand Commander GRIFFITH-II

Who DOESN'T have 800mm shells? Those were invented in the earlier half of the 20th century, and the Gustav is inefficient compared to modern weaponry.

Lemme tell you this. A single one of our anti-ship missiles is more devastating than an underwater minefield. Our cities are built with not only enhanced artillery cannons that can outclass the 800mm, but so many ground, anti-air, and missile defense systems that to succeed in taking a single city, you'd have to spend more resources than needed for most entire wars.

Your immaturity is amusing, and so is your apparent sucking up to Cazelia.
Response:
How many 800mm shells have supernukes as their payload? On a model with a range more than twice that of the orginial? And that this gun can be reloaded in 15 minutes, unlike the long amount of time that the +1000 size cannons do. And unless your anti-ship missiles have nuclear warheads, they aren't that different.

Defenses like that are merely mirror of ours then, We already know the weaknesses and strengths. They do not worry us.

And as you seem to need instruction, only an idiot takes a city, a smart general knows that the best way to defeat a city is to make holding the city a nightmare. No food, only contaminated water, your populace will slowly starve to death while we systematicly level your countryside and your 'super defenses'.

Where the hell did you learn to fight?

As for immaturity, you are the one who makes statements of Genocide publicly just for the attention, if someone is going to do something that they know the international community will hate, they wouldn't tell anyone. And considering our population and military is 2/3 larger than their's, sucking up is not a thing we do.

todays One Big Happy strip... not my art, do not own and will make no profit off of this... but boy is it appropriate...
OOC: He started it.
Cazelia
26-04-2008, 04:52
To: James Hogart
From: Grand Commander GRIFFITH-II

I am growing tired of your policeman attitude, Mr. Hogart. While you definately have numbers on your side, my nation is fortified beyond the point of excessive defences. Actually, your numbers aren't even superior, for if I cannot fight you alone, I can call on my allies, who's combined populations and armed forces can make you and all of your allies look like nothing at all. And forced labor is standard procedure for all detainees, ranging from basic burglars to terrorists. Don't worry, only the trouble making Cazelians are being put on Heavy Industry production. I do have to comment on their obedience, a simple crack of a whip or strike with a baton seems to get them to work harder, and we've only had to execute 32 for intentional sabotage, which is counted as Conspiracy Against the Fascist Federation of The Grand World Order, obviously a capital crime.

Any ground forces you send will be so mentally devastated that they will have to be locked in a psycho ward. I can assure you, while it is feasable for you and your allies to defeat me, it would not come without a mind-boggling toll against you.

You will cease your actions against Greal, or else all of your citizens in my nation will be worked even harder and put onto Heavy Industry, building more equipment for my military. They will be fed and watered, but clearly, dealing with such machines and whatnot can't be safe or good for health.

Also, it's considered rude to address me by my Clone Operational Name without adding my rank as a prefix. Had you been in my nation and in the presence of a Civilian Control Officer, the said officer would be heavily offended and use his non-lethal weaponry on you.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z216/Cazelia/CazelianSeal.png

~Official Communique~

You think I'm good all the time, GRIFFITH-II? I had my men execute seven Leocardians during the war. I am quite tempted to kill every last GWO citizen in my nation, for I have no care for your people's lives. I will not retract my statement, and will act against you unless every last Cazelian in the GWO is released alive and well. We also expect you to return them to Yarkai.

Your second statement makes me laugh. I'm not sure if your nation was around when the Londinians invaded the mainland. It was our worst war in recorded Cazelian history, with a death toll of nearly 5 million civilians and a decent percentage of our military. The most memorable; and surely the most violent was the blending of a young woman. Yes, a blending. She was thrown into a giant blender and torn to shreds. A decent percentage of our military witnessed the spectacle, and have been on combat tours where worse has been seen. Our men are fearless, motivated, brave warriors of freedom and democracy. So do not attempt to discourage me with your illusions of mental breakdowns, for they will be the least of my concerns.

And no, we will not cease our actions in Greal because of your petty threats of harming our civilians, because if you do, I will not hesitate to crush your nation and have you hung until death for the crimes you have committed against my people.

And one more thing:
GRIFFITH-II! GRIFFITH-II! GRIFFITH-II! GRIFFITH-II!
GRIFFITH-II! GRIFFITH-II! GRIFFITH-II! GRIFFITH-II!

Sincerely,
James Hogart
~President
RexCOM
26-04-2008, 08:09
([{FurFagTracker-mate 2.3:cool:}]) running...
"Crushing the furry underground communications network since 0'6! All hail greal!:p"


Isolating...

frequency locked...:)

Inquiring... ... ... "Uh no!" ERROR/:mad: signal bares (Alien) "military grade Encryption":mad:...

;)"Hang on partner! we'll dig those faggots out!"

Encryptions broken stand-by...

Established...:D

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Unknown: Critical mission failure! REPEAT! We are pin-down in....labs...KRAShshshshshshT


Unknown: (Beep Beep Beeeeeeeeeep) (A voice in the background) Sir, all Alpha Team just flat-lined!

Unknown: Son'bitch! Get everyone out now!

Unknown: Recall! Recall! mission is aborted, all units fall back and return to L.Z.

Unknown: Sigma Sargent!.. REPORT!

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(spider program has found the proper tags on the interwebbies for this com network!)
:)(Appying now! Tee-Hee!):)
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I.S. Marine Corps, Corporal Mike "mini-man" Dawson: S-S-Sir, Corporal Mike Dawson repor..

I.S. Marine Corps, Battle Captain Tyrine Strainer: We have com tags corporal, just give me the S.I.D.-rep

Dawson: sir, We got jumped by some more of those... things sir..... one of them got... got at Sarge... across his gut... now he's bleedn' REAL bad...

Dawson: And they drugged Tippet off wile we wer't look'n.... (His composer collapses) we found'em with his.. NECK CUT OPEN!!!

Strainer: Keep it together marine... Get your Sargent on the horn! Pronto! (she begins say something under her breath) shit, if this kid ain't wet behind the ears....

I.S. Marine Corps, Tech Specialist Matthew "Radar" Shepard: Ma'am.. eh Sir.. we just lost contact with two more teams and...

Strainer: Say we've lost contact with the destroyer, and so help me god Radar...


Shepard: Alright, I won't then....


I.S. Marine Corps, Sargent Major Jack "Of Clubs" Bennett: AAAA'cK.. Did i... ever tell you what a bitch you are sir?!.... ahhhh... don't touch it DAMN IT!


Strainer: Sargent Major report! What the hell is going on in there?


Bennett: Its a mess! the geneticists sir... the furry subjects... they... .... I..


Shepard: He's gone into to cardiac arrest!


Dawson: We're under attack!


Strainer: Corporal!!! LISTEN TO ME!!! fall back to the com-relay! radio to the destroyer for "BROKEN ARROW"! "BROKEN ARROW"! you got me!?


Dawson:"broken arrow"! everyone come'on!


Shepard: No! you can't!....he's... he's gone...


Strainer: Shepard...


Shepard: I know..(Deep inhale) there dead already...




Dawson: Sir we've reached the com relay and you'll be glad to know I got a hold of the brass and we've have initialized "broken arrow"!.. Help is on the way right guys?... its over!... we can go home to pacific cit.. hey!?... whats a matter with you?.....


Dawson: NO!!! PLEASE!!!


Strainer: I'm so sorry... ..com off!





Bennett: ThE OlD FlEsH hAsss be-en ConSumeD, A NeW RaCe oF FuR DaWns.


Shepard: It can't be...


Strainer: Who-o are you? Identify yourself!





Bennett: ArE NaMe iS... LeGiOn, FoR wE ArE MaNy...





Strainer: (Cold and Dry) So are they all dead, abomination?




Bennett: wE gAve tHeM ALL.. wHaT thE GREAL GIVE uSsssss





Bennett: A PiOnTy ReCkonInG.... (Wicked Laughter)

Strainer: Oh God, We should never have...

Bennett: Played god human? You do not understand what you have done.. we the singularity... the pinnacle of TRUE existence! It was never between man and machine... but man and beast! Oh lowy human, if only you could feel what I feel... Its...

Bennett: A flash! I see a flesh of no sound!? my eyes...

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:eek:"oh no!" ERROR/ Signal has been lost attempting to reestablish...

attempting.......
attempting.......
attempting.......

(Without warning. an ICBM detonates on an island just of coast of Greal. The entire coastline shakes violently as furry refugees wake from their hiding places to behold a monsterus mushroom cloud glooming out over the ocean. In fellowing weeks, military forces sent to investigate find only one distinguishable article... A flag bearing The Rex's insignia and below it the words "Genetical Research & Development Division")
DVK Tannelorn
26-04-2008, 10:34
***Hoffnungschimmer, the White Palace***

"Sire, it seems the recent crisis around the world dealing with such beings known as "furries" has reached its climax, however there is troubling news. We have intercepted many..rather open communications...from some rather...troubling national leaders." Lord Yannericil, friend and advisor to the new King Sigmund Alberecht stated. "Aye, I have read the reports...why my father wished to deal with such lunatics and democrats is beyond me." Sigmund finished reading the reports he had been going over for the last few hours, putting them down and sighing.

"So several nations are attempting to infringe upon the sovereign rights of another, interfering in some pest control. Said nation's own foreign citizens, have at least been accused of fermenting dischord amongst the populace..at least..from the sketchy intelligence we have gained on this." Sigmund was annoyed. He was preparing the white palace to recieve any guests that may come, readying the announcement of the opening of twelve embassies to be set as a trial.

"Perhaps, Lord Yannericil we should have liberated the rest of the world from the merchants clutches five hundred years ago." Sigmund mused, knowing full well that no Tannelornian would ever do such a thing. "It seems that this government, the Grand world order, a Fascist regime is being threatened by those that espouse the "virtues" of democracy. If Corruption, lies, filth and callousness to those under their charge are virtues, then we must have it all wrong by providing medicine, food, shelter and entertainment to our own serfs." Lord Yannericil stated.

"Aye, Aye it is true, perhaps we would be best served by lying to our people, stealing from them and insuring that they must struggle to even make ends meet, or perhaps force them to pay ridiculous sums of money to go to school, allowing greedy, unqualified citizens to fill the ranks of our tradesmen, physicians and bureaucracies." Sigmund laughed at the joke. Tannelornians were pragmatists for the most part, and Democracy with all of its inherent flaws was considered to be one of the most corrupt and evil forms of government...next to communism..and corporations. After all a system that can last no more then two hundred years before corruption replaces the nobility with something far..far worse then they ever were in the worst excesses of the days before the constitution could not be considered a wise replacement to constitutional monarchy.

So it was that Tannelornians naturally disliked Democracy, that and communism...in fact they hated communism and even the idea of a Corporation was appalling to them. Though Tannelorn had not been on the international scene in a great many years..they could see in the Orderians a people they could speak with..at least with small words, as the rabid..childish and seemingly incompetent leaders of the two democratic nations...were threatening to use nuclear weapons against them. For all the insane and rather childish threats of the Grand world order..at least they promised to use conventional weapons and not unleash a hell upon the world.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend, even if he seems to enjoy striking himself in the face repeatedly." Sigmund laughed at his own joke. "Those who would so easily threaten to use those abominable things, cannot be trusted..however perhaps we should invite them to see just what could come of such wars, they claim to know it from the deaths of their enemies..but if they did why would they use them so lightly."


+++Encrypted transmission+++

Greetings Esteemed leader of the nation of Greal, and the grand world order. We are not blind to the threats made against you, nations that would so willingly resort to nuclear warfare are not to be trusted, therefore we wish to meet with your leadership, here in the safety and neutrality of Tannelorn itself. Coordinates to the port city of Sormr are being sent with this message. We wish to meet your fine people, and perhaps to learn from one another. Also we see in those that rail against you, threatening and behaving in the manner of students in sixth year, as a threat. Anyone that would dare threaten to use Atomic weapons so lightly does not truly understand the implication of their use. We do suggest you free all foreign citizens from your prisons, regardless of their crimes to avoid a war at this time and to show your willingness to resolve the situation peacefully.

That being said, after smelling the sewage being spewed from the donkey assed mouth of democracy, we cannot in good conscience stand by and allow this to happen to you. Todays mouthpiece, could be tommorow's threat. We know first hand the brutal toll of biological and nuclear warfare..and do not wish to see it repeated. Though we do not promise military aid in the event of a war between you and the rest of them, we can offer materiel, medicine and other humanitarian aid.

We await your positive response.

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Sigmund of course was not finished. In a form of irony, and ensuring that the transmission was secure, then sent messages to both Cazelia and The Lone Alliance.

+++Open Transmission+++

Greetings to your respective peoples. We are the Kingdom of Tannelorn, we have been watching this display for some time now..and the threats being issued of nuclear strike in response to the holding of criminals inside Greal, which in most nations is considered to be a rather normal thing when a foreigner commits an offense, are deeply troubling.

We invite you to send diplomats to the Port city of Sormr, where we may not only begin to get to know you and your culture, to share ideas and art with each other, but also to perhaps resolve this current crisis peacefully. With all due respect, it is not up to you to enforce your order on the world, to order any sovereign nation to stop doing as it pleases within its own borders. Though we sympathise with the plight of your civilians, and promise, if you come to negotiate to do all we can to help you win back the prisoners, we cannot promise any military aid at this time.

That being said, the issue of Cazelian prisoners is indeed troubling, and perhaps with dialogue in an open, secure and most importantly neutral location, it can be resolved with no further sorrow. Greetings from the Monarch of Tannelorn, Sigmund Alberecht.

We await a positive response.

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Sigmund and Yannericil had a rather good laugh, after all it was likely any sort of peace conference would fall apart before it even began, with all the nations so far involved being out for blood. Still they would try, Sigmunds reign would be one of peace, or so he hoped. Bringing such disparate..and angry national leaders together to work out their problems peacefully would be quite the feather in his royal hat.

OOC Offering my services as a neutral nation to disarm this situation, hope to see some delegates at least..try..to disarm this...about to go nuclear war. :p. Also I know that Icly you have only threatened to crush..but considering MT-PMT Tannelorns history, we listened alot more closely to your words about annhillating 2000 miles of landscape with nukes.
Red Talons
26-04-2008, 13:59
((OOC: Feel honored, i made Red Talons as a MT nation just for you guys. Historically they're not related, so wiping the MT out wont affect the FT so NER XP))

A broadcast went out to all nations, Piggybacking the signals from various satellites with no traceable source.

The image showed a rather well dressed anthro fox, wearing a crisp black suit with a red arm band, sitting in what looked to be an official office. "I am Adrias of the Red Talons Mercenary Republic. This is a message to all nations as well to their non human residents. We consider All furries to be our citizens in regard to corrupt and genocidal leaders. Should this wanton slaughter of sentience continue we shall have no other course but to carry out tactical strikes upon the offenders political and military heads. We do not condone the act of genocide in any manner, shape or form and hold such treatment as nothing but terrorism. The suggested treatment methods by some of you are on par with Neanderthals. Any nation that wishes to deport its non human populace will load them onto ships set to sail for international waters. Any response is to be directed in wide band to the same location. This is not a threat only a warning. We stand ready to liberate any and all oppressed sentients. We do not wish conflict from the more peaceful nations, we simply desire an end to this genocide by any means necessary."
The Grand World Order
26-04-2008, 17:29
Response:
How many 800mm shells have supernukes as their payload? On a model with a range more than twice that of the orginial? And that this gun can be reloaded in 15 minutes, unlike the long amount of time that the +1000 size cannons do. And unless your anti-ship missiles have nuclear warheads, they aren't that different.

Defenses like that are merely mirror of ours then, We already know the weaknesses and strengths. They do not worry us.

And as you seem to need instruction, only an idiot takes a city, a smart general knows that the best way to defeat a city is to make holding the city a nightmare. No food, only contaminated water, your populace will slowly starve to death while we systematicly level your countryside and your 'super defenses'.

Where the hell did you learn to fight?

As for immaturity, you are the one who makes statements of Genocide publicly just for the attention, if someone is going to do something that they know the international community will hate, they wouldn't tell anyone. And considering our population and military is 2/3 larger than their's, sucking up is not a thing we do.

OOC: He started it.

To: TLA
From: Grand Commander GRIFFITH-II

A nuclear artillery shell is inefficient when you can use satellite or ICBM delivered munitions. And the materials used to make our anti-ship munitions are kept from others, for obvious reasons.

As for taking cities, know that our cities can start intensive cultivation at any given moment, and water can be supplied via underground systems below the range of non-absurd methods of attack. Plus, water filtration systems are in the city itself, behind the defenses.

I did not announce the genocide of the furries to the world. I simply told my populace that Furries are on the Vermin list, and that killing them is encouraged. Of course, my government went out of it's way to ensure more deaths. The news is the one who announced it, not me.

((OOC: n00king = IGNORE cannon. I'm not going to deal with someone who just spams nuclear munitions.))

*snip*

To: Cazelia
From: GRIFFITH-II

Blenders are common methods of torture/execution in the GWO. My soldiers have had to witness the creation of the GWO, an action that took the lives of billions in brutal nuclear slaughter (We prevented the slaughter of many more by taking control in areas of the said salughter). The horrid mutations (One of which is the Furry, but the one I am speaking of is the Grup) wreaked havok upon the people, ripping their heads apart from the inside before turning them into mindless meatshields.

My troops are completely desensitized, bloodthirsty, and are suicidally driven to fight for the Fascist Federation. Even most of my non-military citizens can outshoot some militaries.

Also, we're being nice enough to show you the conditions of your prisoners here.

[Attached is a video of an assemblyline in a prison, with numerous Cazelians building a Divine Tiger class tank. One of the prisoners purposefully damages a part of the tank, then is beaten by a Prison Guard. The prisoner fixes the piece, then damages it again. The video skips to the night, and the cameraman follows a guard as they approach the prisoner's cell. The guard withdraws his MP7 submachine pistol and sprays the prisoner to death on camera. The prisoner is seen slumping to the floor, his blood sprayed against the wall. The guard walks off, and the camera zooms on the bloody mush that is the face of the prisoner. The video shows a few more average days of manufacturing, none of which any more Cazelians are killed. Another Cazelian is brought into the prison, and the cameraman follows the guards as they process him and take him to the executed Cazelian's cell. Inside, the executed man's decomposing body sits. The guards open the cell door, and drag the body out before pushing the new prisoner in. The cell door shuts, and the camera follows the guards as they throw the decomposing body into a chute that leads to a grinder. The remains will be used for agricultural needs, and the prisoner is filed as "Executed for Conspiracy against the Fascist Federation of The Grand World Order."]
Atruria
26-04-2008, 18:03
Official Statement
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HM Foreign Office

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In the past several hours, Parliament has passed a law which encourages those involved in the current situation to help save the lives of any and all furries, in exchange for monetary compensation. For each furry whose life is spared, the Greater Empire is willing to pay 5,000 NSD. Furries in Grealite territory should be brought to the Atrurian embassy, while Furries outside of Grealite-controlled territory should be flown into Atrurian airports.

Customs officials have been alerted of this new policy and have the authority to make payments to those who transport these furries. These furries will be granted Atrurian citizenship and refugee camps in Atruria are being established as you receive this notification. These camps will be able to house and supply furries until other arrangements can be made.

On another, related, note, the Greater Empire of Atruria unequivocally condemns the acts that the government of the Totalitarian State of Red Tide. We strongly urge against this process of genocide of Red Tidean Nekoes. Due to these crimes against humanity, trials of key Red Tidean governmental officials in absentia have begun. If they are found to be guilty, they can expect capital punishment, should they ever venture into Atrurian or allied territory. Additionally, Red Tidean officials may be interested to know that Atrurian law specifically and purposely does not forbid the extraction of criminals from foreign territories. If the Totalitarian State would be interested in making a deal, we are willing, as noted above, to take in your population of nekoes for 5,000 NSD per Neko.

We must also condemn the acts and position of The Grand World Order, in the strongest terms. Their belligerence and xenophobia towards furry-kind is despicable. Worse yet is their treatment of Cazelian prisoners, which disregard basic human rights and go directly against the generally accepted laws of war. At this point in time, the Atrurian Royal Police have issued an arrest warrant for Grand Commander GRIFFITH-II, also citing crimes against humanity. The crown has also made a motion in the courts, which is being strongly considered, to try GRIFFITH-II in absentia.

Yours,

Lord Benjamin Kitchener,
Deputy Secretary for the Foreign Office


OOC: the warrant is completely ceremonial, and I don't really intend to do anything about it at this point, but yeah...
The Grand World Order
26-04-2008, 18:24
To: Aturia
From: The Grand World Order Federal Guard (National Police) Corrections Division

The execution of the Cazelian complied with standard procedure. All prisoners are to serve their time on an assemblyline. Only time spent building counts towards the sentence. Unruly prisoners who damage products are executed.

The prisoner on the video had ruined one of the Divine Tiger's treads, and assembly was halted until the other prisoners built another tread. The damaged tread was melted as scrap metal, so no assets were lost. However, to prevent further damaging of goods, as well as to set an example of what rebellion leads to in prison, we executed the Cazelian.

This rule applies with all GWO Prisoners, but the rules are more strict on Heavy Industry (War equipment, machines, etc.) than in Light Industry (Fabrics, plastics, carpentry, lighter vehicle production). As to comply with an earlier statement, all Cazelians have been placed in Heavy Industry, along with murderers, rapists, and other severe felons.
Red Tide2
26-04-2008, 18:30
A broadcast went out to all nations, Piggybacking the signals from various satellites with no traceable source.

The image showed a rather well dressed anthro fox, wearing a crisp black suit with a red arm band, sitting in what looked to be an official office. "I am Adrias of the Red Talons Mercenary Republic. This is a message to all nations as well to their non human residents. We consider All furries to be our citizens in regard to corrupt and genocidal leaders. Should this wanton slaughter of sentience continue we shall have no other course but to carry out tactical strikes upon the offenders political and military heads. We do not condone the act of genocide in any manner, shape or form and hold such treatment as nothing but terrorism. The suggested treatment methods by some of you are on par with Neanderthals. Any nation that wishes to deport its non human populace will load them onto ships set to sail for international waters. Any response is to be directed in wide band to the same location. This is not a threat only a warning. We stand ready to liberate any and all oppressed sentients. We do not wish conflict from the more peaceful nations, we simply desire an end to this genocide by any means necessary."

Official Statement from TSRt Government
"The Totalitarian State hereby classifies the organization known as the 'Red Talons' as an extremist terrorist organization. Any members of this group found inside Red Tide is subject to lifetime imprisonment in a Labor Camp of Very Harsh Regime or summary execution. The liquidation of the Red Tidean Neko population will continue, regardless of any threats by terrorists."
End Statement
Cazelia
26-04-2008, 18:32
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~Official Communique~

This time you have gone too far, GRIFFITH-II. By killing citizens of Cazelia, you have declared war upon the Imperial Democracy, the UCRC and her colonies. You have 48 hours to surrender or there will be no surrender at all.
You have brought this upon yourself.

To clarify, all Cazelian forces in Greal have moved back to there respective bases, while a few companies will remain behind to gather the dead.

Sincerely,
James Hogart
~President
Red Talons
26-04-2008, 18:35
((OOC: I don't use nukes unless its absolutely necessary. I prefer Fuel air bombs. And that last message would have haired across the world by the way.))
Vetaka
26-04-2008, 18:55
OOC: Do you people actually realise what a Nuclear Weapon is? What it does? and What it Leaves behind?

The Deployment of Nuclear Weapons is a last resort option in any situation is it not? I seriously suggest reading up a few articles on Wikipedia. After reading through the thread I cannot help but say that some of the world leaders of some of these nations are well ruddy thick. That seem to think Nuclear Weapons are rather large Free Fall Bombs that create a big bang and a cause lot of explosions and thats it. When in reality it causes total destruction and leaves alot of nasty stuff around making the area uninhabitable.

Apologies for the OOC I couldn't find a designated Thread.

Vetaka
The Grand World Order
26-04-2008, 18:59
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~Official Communique~

This time you have gone too far, GRIFFITH-II. By killing citizens of Cazelia, you have declared war upon the Imperial Democracy, the UCRC and her colonies. You have 48 hours to surrender or there will be no surrender at all.
You have brought this upon yourself.

To clarify, all Cazelian forces in Greal have moved back to there respective bases, while a few companies will remain behind to gather the dead.

Sincerely,
James Hogart
~President

To: Mr. Hogart
From: Grand Commander GRIFFITH-II

I've already killed 23, admitted it, and just now you declare war. Your threat is laughable at best. The Grand World Order will never surrender to democratic scum like Cazelia.
Cazelia
26-04-2008, 19:05
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~Official Communique~

I doubt you will be saying that in your prison cell in Yarkai, GRIFFITH.

Sincerely,
James Hogart
~President
Red Talons
26-04-2008, 19:13
Official communique from Representative Adrias Cyphox

To The Greater Empire of Atruria.

To whom it may concern.

Red Talon forces are poised to extract oppressed sentients. We request to clarify your stance on use of deadly force to ensure the safety of the oppressed in question.

Sincerely
Adrias Cyphox.
Red Tide2
26-04-2008, 19:17
Official Statement from TSRT Government
"The Totalitarian State condemns the Cazelian decleration of war on The Grand World Order. In addition, due to past and present aggressive tendencies, Cazelia is now classified as a rogue state by the Red Tide Government. All Cazelian citizens in Red Tide have been arrested and are now being processed by the Intelligence Commissariat for transportation to Labor Camps. The estimated number is inbetween 2,000 and 3,000 citizens. All Cazelian assets in Red Tide have been nationalised and are now available for sale on the market to none-Cazelian Companies."
End Statement
The World Soviet Party
26-04-2008, 19:27
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TO: Grand Commander Griffith II, The Fascist Federation of The Grand World Order
FROM: Alexander Nevskij, Minister of Foreign Affairs, The World Soviet Party

We, The Socialist States of the World Soviet Party, stand by our Cazelian allies and should you decide not to comply with the magnanimously fair and just terms offered by the Imperial Democracy, we will be forced to follow suit and issue a declaration of war, in support of the Cazelians.

I would like to remind you, Grand Commander, that war is not to be taken lightly, specially in these modern and troublesome times, you never know what might happen. Just ask the Cazelians, we were "forced" to kill around thirteen (13) million of their citizens, just to take out one man, during our last conflict. And even after the war was over, we ripped their lands apart, giving the pieces as presents to those who are considerably more evil than us.

Just think about it.

Signed,
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Alexander Nevskij, Minister of Foreign Affairs, The World Soviet Party.
Atruria
26-04-2008, 19:37
Official communique from Representative Adrias Cyphox

To The Greater Empire of Atruria.

To whom it may concern.

Red Talon forces are poised to extract oppressed sentients. We request to clarify your stance on use of deadly force to ensure the safety of the oppressed in question.

Sincerely
Adrias Cyphox.

Official Statement
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HM Foreign Office

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The Greater Empire realizes that casualties, intended or not, often must occur for the greater good. We will look the other way, while Red Talons utilizes force at its own discretion. That said, we must emphasize our objection to the intended injury of any civilian non-belligerents.

Lord Benjamin Kitchener,
Deputy Secretary for the Foreign Office
Vanteland
26-04-2008, 19:41
Official Statement from TSRT Government
"The Totalitarian State condemns the Cazelian decleration of war on The Grand World Order. In addition, due to past and present aggressive tendencies, Cazelia is now classified as a rogue state by the Red Tide Government. All Cazelian citizens in Red Tide have been arrested and are now being processed by the Intelligence Commissariat for transportation to Labor Camps. The estimated number is inbetween 2,000 and 3,000 citizens. All Cazelian assets in Red Tide have been nationalised and are now available for sale on the market to none-Cazelian Companies."
End Statement

The Vantanian Conglomerate for the Invisible Empire offers to purchase all of the former Cazelian investments for an appropriate price. (Can I have an estimate on the range of the investments and the types?)

Meanwhile, the Republic Commonwealth of the Vanteland has pledged the Republican Army to assist in repelling the imperialistic Cazelian aggression, if TGWO agrees.
Atruria
26-04-2008, 19:47
SIC:


Encrypted Communique
To: Imperial Democracy of Cazelia

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Dear President Hogart,
The Greater Empire is refreshed and inspired by the attitude and steadfastness of Cazelia's commitment to the cause of sentient rights, and the sacrifices it has already made to further that cause. Our intelligence services have also noted, in disgust, the acts perpetrated against Cazelians by the fascist Grand World Order and, their apparent allies, the Red Tideans. If you so desire, we are prepared to support you militarily against these foes. Additionally, the Royal Secret Service is prepared to co-operate with your government on an operation that would entail the purchase of Cazelian citizens from Red Tide, through an RSS front company, and covertly begin transporting them back to Cazelia.

Sincerely,
Lord Benjamin Kitchener,
Deputy Secretary for the Foreign Office
Red Tide2
26-04-2008, 19:52
The Vantanian Conglomerate for the Invisible Empire offers to purchase all of the former Cazelian investments for an appropriate price. (Can I have an estimate on the range of the investments and the types?)

Meanwhile, the Republic Commonwealth of the Vanteland has pledged the Republican Army to assist in repelling the imperialistic Cazelian aggression, if TGWO agrees.

Official Reply
"The former-Cazelian Assets consist of the following:

x2 Automobile Factories(all equipment seized intact)
x1 Steel Mill(partially damaged during the seizure)
x4 Canned Food Plants(3 seized intact, 1 partially damaged)

Initial offering price is still being determined..."
End Message
Cazelia
26-04-2008, 20:12
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~Encrypted Communique~

I could use whatever support you have to help defeat the enemies of freedom. I am honored that you have volunteered to have your men help bring our brothers and sisters home from oppression.
You have our thanks, and we will not hesitate to help defend your nation if it comes under attack.

Sincerely,
James Hogart
~President
The Grand World Order
26-04-2008, 20:13
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~Official Communique~

I doubt you will be saying that in your prison cell in Yarkai, GRIFFITH.

Sincerely,
James Hogart
~President

To: Mr. Hogart
From: Grand Commander GRIFFITH-II

Not only will it be extremely difficult to take over a single region of my country, it will be practically impossible to find me...


Across the GWO, everything was being set up. Soldiers patrolled the cities along with Civilian Control officers, and the usually empty and unarmed Bunkers scattered across each city became occupied, each with MG3s, FHASAWs, Mk. 19s, and numerous other mounted weapons, including Dillon Miniguns. Aircraft coming into any province all had to be escorted by fighters. Weapons sales soared. Civilians usually had a rifle or sub machinegun of sorts in their house, while many registered Civilian Militia members had full blown machine guns, even rocket launchers at times. Metal Storm systems were sent online, scanning the skies for missiles or aircraft, though they would begin monitoring the sea and land when the Cazelians were in range. Ships coming in had to be searched, and the waters around coastal provinces were dotted with Fleets. Around Magna Polis, hundreds of vessels patrolled the waters, and the Defense Islands were fully armed. The Depleted Uranium guns on them could tear straight through a ship's hull with ease, and the weakest Cesium missiles and torpedoes were essentially launched seamines. Smartmines were being placed, leaving only one opening for ships. The city itself contained more weapons.

Coastal provinces also had defense fleets, but their defenses were definately not as strong as Magna Polis'. While they did have underwater smartmines and hundreds of Torpedo Boats, only the larger ones had artificial defense islands off the shore. Their advantage was that the beaches were overlooked by bunkers. Security Measures had mine-laying vehicles on standby, and people were not permitted onto the beach.

In space, satellites began monitoring any fleet movements from Cazelia. This would help track which provinces they would attack, and pepper-bombs against fleets in battle seem to cripple them.

The Grand World Order would not be defeated without taking a massive toll on the enemy.
Red Talons
26-04-2008, 20:26
With the reply in hand, Adrias nodded to an officer. "Operation Freedom is a go" He nodded.

on the deck of the command carrier and the two accompanying supercarriers, catapults hurtled sleek black planes off their decks. Deploying two dozen Lynx class stealth bombers as well as dozens of Sparrow class stealth air superiority fighters. Hundreds of Orca class combat drop ships lifting from troop ships to begin their hour long journey to the neko settlements.

Each lynx equipped with a payload of fuel air smart bombs as well as standard anti armor smart bombs. The fighters equipped with a full compliment of sidewinder missiles and twin fuel tanks for extended range. The bombers possessing them as well. Both types of aircraft traveling near the stratosphere at their top cruising speed. The bombers slowing only to strike from high altitude at Red Tide's anti air installations between the coast and the neko settlements. Clearing the way for the drop ships carrying a unit of marines each that would come in just behind the fighters at the same altitude and keeping up quite well, possessing 4 hybrid ramjet engines. Secondary targets were military bases lying near the target settlements. One tactical fuel air bomb directly center of the base, followed by an air burst napalm bomb over the military instillation.

((OOC: I'd like to actually go into the battle instead of just saying that stuff dies back and forth >.> ))

From The desk of Adrias, Representative of the Red Talons Mercenary Republic.

To The Greater Empire of Atruria.

We thank you for your clarification. Engagement will not extend any longer than needed. We are employing a rapid snatch and grab operation. Civilian casualties will be kept as low as possible. We are nothing like those genocidal psychopaths. It is expected that the population of the Neko's in Red Tide will be liberated in a matter of hours.
Atruria
26-04-2008, 20:29
Universal Exports

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To: Totalitarian State of Red Tide

Universal Exports, an Atrurian firm involved in a multitude of profitable businesses, is now turning its eye towards one of they very most lucrative, the trade in people. In order to begin our human trafficking venture, we are interested in discreetly purchasing as many of your Cazelian prisoners as possible, so long as you are willing to provide them. Just name your price.

Three large commercial freighters, the Merchant, the Wellington and the Caravan, operated by a Universal Exports subsidiary will be waiting in international waters, outside of Red Tidean territory. These three freighters have a combined capacity of approximately 4,000 With your permission, we would like to make port in a Red Tidean harbor and complete the transaction.

Yours,
Mark Brandenburg,
CEO and Chairman,
Universal Exports
Red Tide2
26-04-2008, 20:43
OOC: Red Talon: Before I can reply, I need to know how many fighters and bombers?

Also, your description of your fighters on your factbook seem quite unrealistic. Any decently designed fighter moving at over speeds of mach-4 would have it's pilot turned into a smeer of human flesh and blood from the sheer g-forces at that speed, not to mention you could not manuever or else the plane would come apart.

EDIT: And upon re-reading it, you list it as a cruising speed, which implies that this is the speed your fighters and bombers normally travel at. Unfortunantly, that would sacrifice any attempts at stealth and such.

IC:
Official Reply to Universal Exports
"I apologise, but where did you get the idea that we were selling the Cazelians we have detained? They are not for sale, they are being transported to Red Tidean Labor Camps of Strict Regime as we speak."
End Message
Atruria
26-04-2008, 20:58
OOC: Crap, my bad dude, I misread your post. On to option number two I guess.
Stoklomolvi
26-04-2008, 21:04
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Stoklomolvi Commissariat of State
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 0, Null Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: General Statement

The Communist Dominion of Stoklomolvi is most disappointed that the World Soviet Party has aided the state of Cazelia. Notice that they refuse to stop the attacking of Greal civilians who dislike furfags, for it was the Greal civilians themselves who attacked the furfags, not the government. The Cazelians are imposing their unwanted morals and values on a state which clearly does not care for such things. In doing so, Cazelia has violated the sovereignty of Greal, and as such should be stopped. The Grand World Order has every right to criticise Cazelia, for Cazelia is intervening in the internal affairs of a sovereign nation that is currently undergoing a period of political strife; the Cazelians take advantage of this situation and decide to impose their beliefs about furfags on the populace of Greal. Stoklomolvi and the Grand World Order both seem to agree that furfags are terrible mutations that must be destroyed [though nekos, odd creatures, could be left alone]. Consider us insane, consider us immoral, but what Greal does is what Greal does, and is not a matter of any other nation.

Regards,
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Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
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Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
Red Talons
26-04-2008, 21:20
((To clarify, thats their top speed, I wouldnt imagine trying to pull of a mach4 average speed with MT. We just cant do it with current aircraft materials. I need to change a few things around i know, sorry i've been up for a few days now so my mind isnt thinking quite clearly. The technology is all in use today, i made sure of that. And that speed is entirely possible, maneuvering is as well, though not in the same way that most fighters do Performing a 90 degree turn takes the span of 3-5 US states. They slow to standard supersonic/subsonic speeds for dogfighting as appropriate. The sidewinders infact can be launched at their top speed, due to the fact that the sidewinder missile system was originally designed for use on the SR-71 Blackbird.))

((Oh yea, theres approximately 80 of the drop ships, which normally carry light armor along with a few squads of marines. Theres 24 of the Lynx bombers, and 56 of the fighters, divided into 8 groups consisting of 3 bombers and 7 fighters. The battle group is stationed offshore in international waters, picket ships have deployed smoke screens to prevent satellite observation, making it look like a cloud formation.))
Red Tide2
26-04-2008, 22:03
((Oh yea, theres approximately 80 of the drop ships, which normally carry light armor along with a few squads of marines. Theres 24 of the Lynx bombers, and 56 of the fighters, divided into 8 groups consisting of 3 bombers and 7 fighters. The battle group is stationed offshore in international waters, picket ships have deployed smoke screens to prevent satellite observation, making it look like a cloud formation.))

OOC: I have never heard of a manned mach-4 top speed aircraft. The SR-71 and MiG-25 could manage mach-3.1 for awhile, but their engines would eventually melt. Unmanned vehicles powered with engines have gone up to mach-9 at VERY high altitudes, where there is not much airpressure.

Meh, I'll do some inquiring and get back to you...

How far offshore is your battlegroup?

IC: As the Red Talon planes approached the coast, they were unknowingly approaching one of the largest and thickest SAM belts in the entire world. The planes were picked up at a distance of 40 kilometers from Red Tidean airspace by the insanely powerfull Over-The-Horizon RADAR.

As they were unauthorized planes not flying commercial air routes, their radios crackled and a monotonous, Russian-accented voice came over their headsets.

"Attention unidentified aircraft, this is your first and only warning. Turn back or you will be fired upon."
Atruria
26-04-2008, 22:03
Devonport Naval Base, Auckland
Greater Empire of Atruria

The commodore stepped into the Tactical Operations Center at Devonport Naval Base, noting the multitude of sailors within. But these men weren't just sailors. Oh sure, they looked ordinary enough. Maybe a little bit more fit than your average seaman or civilian, but they didn't appear especially remarkable. At first glance, the commodore doubted anyone would suspect that these men had completed some of the most intense, hardcore, and terrifying training that the Navy had to offer; or that these men had conducted all kinds of counter-terrorism, direct action, and special reconnaissance missions, on land and sea. Few would expect that these men had the fortitude and steadfastness demanded of them on a daily basis, that these men could actually thrive on adversity.

But in fact, these men were a certain, crazed, special breed of warrior. These men were Royal Navy Beach Commandos. The physically hardest and mentally toughest motherf**ckers to roam the high seas, or so they were known in the Royal Navy. The commodore looked in reverence at the three Beach Commando Teams, each numbering sixteen. He cleared is throat and announced:

"Recently, there has been a flurry of action in relation to sentient rights. This began a while back, if you recall, with debates about furry rights, then evolved to a higher level. Just recently, a massacre of furries occurred in Greal. At this point, the Atrurian government became minimally involved, dropping Paratroopers to protect our embassy and allowing furries to take refuge in the embassy. In keeping with its policies on sentient rights, the government also began offering rewards for endangered furries delivered safely to Atrurian territory. The Cazelian government, and several others, also became involved in a humanitarian effort, sending their own troops into Greal.

As a direct result of this, several Cazelians were taken prisoner and brutally murdered by the Grand World Order. This elevated to a point of war between the two nations. We are, of course, supporting Cazelia in this matter. Unfortunately, the Grand World Order is a heavily-fortified nation. In order to effectively capture any area, we will need to substantially weaken it first. Our eyes are set upon their North American State

You will enter long before any of our other forces. Each team will be flown in by an Air Force C-130 Hercules transport plane into international waters near the Alaskan archipelago, a thirteen-hour journey. Then you will be air-dropped from the planes in Advanced Beach Commando Deployment Systems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASDS). The ABCD Systems will stealthily carry closer towards the coast, hopefully avoiding detection. Once in range, you will deploy from the ABCD Systems, SCUBA-style. You will covertly make your way ashore.

Once there, your mission will be to generally wreak havoc on the city, destroying air defenses and fortifications, linking up with any rebel groups, if possible, and committing general acts of sabotage. You will keep casualties on civilian non-belligerents to a bare minimum. keep in mind that all cities have massive fortress-grade walls with weapons emplacements, and will be hard to infiltrate. Stick to the countryside until reinforcements arrive. Concentrate especially on destroying air defenses. Do not take prisoners of any soldiers, they will most likely be sociopathic clones. That said, you will probably come more into contact with the Federal Guard, their paramilitary police force.

In the coming days, Army Special Air Service troopers and Air Force Reconnaissance Commandos may or may not arrive to assist you, followed by a large conventional force.

Remember who you are, foremost, the elite of the elite, a Royal Navy Beach Commando. Conduct yourself as such. Hoo-yah Boys!"

"Hoo-yah Commodore!" came the resounding reply as the teams of Beach Commandos saluted and began to file out the room to board the C-130s.

Bloemfontein Military Barracks
Greater Empire of Atruria

Elsewhere in the Empire, General John Mbeki and a dedicated core group of military planners were beginning to formulate their ideas for an invasion force for the GWO's North American State. So far, they had decided that the 2st Imperial Banner Fleet would serve as the initial naval force. It would deliver Marine Light Infantry brigades to storm the beaches of GWO North America. Carrier air wings would then mount a bombing campaign on defenses, before paratroopers would subsequently be deployed further inland and establish an airhead.

Elements of the 2nd Imperial Banner Fleet would ensure the safety of the naval logistical route. As other elements of the 2nd Imperial Banner Fleet delivered heavier forces to support the Marines, they would advance, linking the beachhead to the airhead.

General Mbeki reached for his glasses as he basked in the pride of being the general selected to lead the invasion force...

OOC: Grand World Order, what exactly do your North American territories consist of?
Keilaniemi
26-04-2008, 22:08
***Hoffnungschimmer, the White Palace***

"Sire, it seems the recent crisis around the world dealing with such beings known as "furries" has reached its climax, however there is troubling news. We have intercepted many..rather open communications...from some rather...troubling national leaders." Lord Yannericil, friend and advisor to the new King Sigmund Alberecht stated. "Aye, I have read the reports...why my father wished to deal with such lunatics and democrats is beyond me." Sigmund finished reading the reports he had been going over for the last few hours, putting them down and sighing.

"So several nations are attempting to infringe upon the sovereign rights of another, interfering in some pest control. Said nation's own foreign citizens, have at least been accused of fermenting dischord amongst the populace..at least..from the sketchy intelligence we have gained on this." Sigmund was annoyed. He was preparing the white palace to recieve any guests that may come, readying the announcement of the opening of twelve embassies to be set as a trial.

"Perhaps, Lord Yannericil we should have liberated the rest of the world from the merchants clutches five hundred years ago." Sigmund mused, knowing full well that no Tannelornian would ever do such a thing. "It seems that this government, the Grand world order, a Fascist regime is being threatened by those that espouse the "virtues" of democracy. If Corruption, lies, filth and callousness to those under their charge are virtues, then we must have it all wrong by providing medicine, food, shelter and entertainment to our own serfs." Lord Yannericil stated.

"Aye, Aye it is true, perhaps we would be best served by lying to our people, stealing from them and insuring that they must struggle to even make ends meet, or perhaps force them to pay ridiculous sums of money to go to school, allowing greedy, unqualified citizens to fill the ranks of our tradesmen, physicians and bureaucracies." Sigmund laughed at the joke. Tannelornians were pragmatists for the most part, and Democracy with all of its inherent flaws was considered to be one of the most corrupt and evil forms of government...next to communism..and corporations. After all a system that can last no more then two hundred years before corruption replaces the nobility with something far..far worse then they ever were in the worst excesses of the days before the constitution could not be considered a wise replacement to constitutional monarchy.

So it was that Tannelornians naturally disliked Democracy, that and communism...in fact they hated communism and even the idea of a Corporation was appalling to them. Though Tannelorn had not been on the international scene in a great many years..they could see in the Orderians a people they could speak with..at least with small words, as the rabid..childish and seemingly incompetent leaders of the two democratic nations...were threatening to use nuclear weapons against them. For all the insane and rather childish threats of the Grand world order..at least they promised to use conventional weapons and not unleash a hell upon the world.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend, even if he seems to enjoy striking himself in the face repeatedly." Sigmund laughed at his own joke. "Those who would so easily threaten to use those abominable things, cannot be trusted..however perhaps we should invite them to see just what could come of such wars, they claim to know it from the deaths of their enemies..but if they did why would they use them so lightly."


+++Encrypted transmission+++

Greetings Esteemed leader of the nation of Greal, and the grand world order. We are not blind to the threats made against you, nations that would so willingly resort to nuclear warfare are not to be trusted, therefore we wish to meet with your leadership, here in the safety and neutrality of Tannelorn itself. Coordinates to the port city of Sormr are being sent with this message. We wish to meet your fine people, and perhaps to learn from one another. Also we see in those that rail against you, threatening and behaving in the manner of students in sixth year, as a threat. Anyone that would dare threaten to use Atomic weapons so lightly does not truly understand the implication of their use. We do suggest you free all foreign citizens from your prisons, regardless of their crimes to avoid a war at this time and to show your willingness to resolve the situation peacefully.

That being said, after smelling the sewage being spewed from the donkey assed mouth of democracy, we cannot in good conscience stand by and allow this to happen to you. Todays mouthpiece, could be tommorow's threat. We know first hand the brutal toll of biological and nuclear warfare..and do not wish to see it repeated. Though we do not promise military aid in the event of a war between you and the rest of them, we can offer materiel, medicine and other humanitarian aid.

We await your positive response.

++++

Sigmund of course was not finished. In a form of irony, and ensuring that the transmission was secure, then sent messages to both Cazelia and The Lone Alliance.

+++Open Transmission+++

Greetings to your respective peoples. We are the Kingdom of Tannelorn, we have been watching this display for some time now..and the threats being issued of nuclear strike in response to the holding of criminals inside Greal, which in most nations is considered to be a rather normal thing when a foreigner commits an offense, are deeply troubling.

We invite you to send diplomats to the Port city of Sormr, where we may not only begin to get to know you and your culture, to share ideas and art with each other, but also to perhaps resolve this current crisis peacefully. With all due respect, it is not up to you to enforce your order on the world, to order any sovereign nation to stop doing as it pleases within its own borders. Though we sympathise with the plight of your civilians, and promise, if you come to negotiate to do all we can to help you win back the prisoners, we cannot promise any military aid at this time.

That being said, the issue of Cazelian prisoners is indeed troubling, and perhaps with dialogue in an open, secure and most importantly neutral location, it can be resolved with no further sorrow. Greetings from the Monarch of Tannelorn, Sigmund Alberecht.

We await a positive response.

++++

Sigmund and Yannericil had a rather good laugh, after all it was likely any sort of peace conference would fall apart before it even began, with all the nations so far involved being out for blood. Still they would try, Sigmunds reign would be one of peace, or so he hoped. Bringing such disparate..and angry national leaders together to work out their problems peacefully would be quite the feather in his royal hat.

OOC Offering my services as a neutral nation to disarm this situation, hope to see some delegates at least..try..to disarm this...about to go nuclear war. :p. Also I know that Icly you have only threatened to crush..but considering MT-PMT Tannelorns history, we listened alot more closely to your words about annhillating 2000 miles of landscape with nukes.

OOC: Jeezus, mate, i literally fell asleep reading this post... granted, i was kinda pissed drunk at the time, but still... There've been some long posts before, but none as boring and lacking in content as yours a considering it was mostly IC, i feel i must congratulate you for successfully impersonating the most annoying kinds of boring politicians and general demagogues that fill the airwawes daily spewing tons of material barely containing minute ammounts of data...

Please understand, i have nothing personally against you, i'm just concerned about the possible health risks, comas and whatnot, caused by your posts...
Tanaara
26-04-2008, 22:26
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Broadcast in the clear to all nations ...but most specifically...

Atruria, Red Talons, Grand World Order, Cazelia, TSRT

May I personally request a short cease fire so that Tanaara may safely remove the ten Million Furries that Greal is allowing us to extract.

We thank both Red Talons and Atruria for their generous offers and humanitarianly inclined actions - BUTours predates yours (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13639113&postcount=79) and ours is the one that Greal has accepted (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13642573&postcount=89)


Please will every one take their war out of Greal. Or I will find myself in the dustasteful but honor required position of having to help toss you all out of his nation.

Sincerely

Archon Robert Ryan Fortier ~ Hexx
Red Talons
26-04-2008, 22:26
((OOC: Two things then i'll use this as a post for my response. First, the SR-71 Blackbird has a top speed of classified, it uses twin Ramjet engines to propel itself through the upper stratosphere, the Sparrow's are based off the planes in the movie Stealth, using pre-cooled ramjet engines, cooling and condensing the air before it enters the engine, allowing for considerably higher levels of speed once the ramjet reaches speeds exceeding mach 2. They dont just go, 'throttle up, look mach 4' they actually accelerate comparable to a cars acceleration.

Second, How do you pick up stealth aircraft on radar?

Third, to Tanaara, i'm attacking Red Tide, not Grael, unless i mis read and red tide isn't enacting genocide on neko's o.o in which case i'll feel very stupid.....))
Atruria
26-04-2008, 22:35
OOC: The only troops of mine that are in Greal are at my embassy, which is sovereign Atrurian territory, so its all good there.
Stoklomolvi
26-04-2008, 22:40
[OOC: Actually, the SR-71 Blackbird has a top speed of around Mach 3.2-3.5.

It depends on how your aircraft is "stealthed". Paint can be detected, radar jammers have counters, etc.]
The Grand World Order
26-04-2008, 22:41
Devonport Naval Base, Auckland
Greater Empire of Atruria

The commodore stepped into the Tactical Operations Center at Devonport Naval Base, noting the multitude of sailors within. But these men weren't just sailors. Oh sure, they looked ordinary enough. Maybe a little bit more fit than your average seaman or civilian, but they didn't appear especially remarkable. At first glance, the commodore doubted anyone would suspect that these men had completed some of the most intense, hardcore, and terrifying training that the Navy had to offer; or that these men had conducted all kinds of counter-terrorism, direct action, and special reconnaissance missions, on land and sea. Few would expect that these men had the fortitude and steadfastness demanded of them on a daily basis, that these men could actually thrive on adversity.

But in fact, these men were a certain, crazed, special breed of warrior. These men were Royal Navy Beach Commandos. The physically hardest and mentally toughest motherf**ckers to roam the high seas, or so they were known in the Royal Navy. The commodore looked in reverence at the three Beach Commando Teams, each numbering sixteen. He cleared is throat and announced:

"Recently, there has been a flurry of action in relation to sentient rights. This began a while back, if you recall, with debates about furry rights, then evolved to a higher level. Just recently, a massacre of furries occurred in Greal. At this point, the Atrurian government became minimally involved, dropping Paratroopers to protect our embassy and allowing furries to take refuge in the embassy. In keeping with its policies on sentient rights, the government also began offering rewards for endangered furries delivered safely to Atrurian territory. The Cazelian government, and several others, also became involved in a humanitarian effort, sending their own troops into Greal.

As a direct result of this, several Cazelians were taken prisoner and brutally murdered by the Grand World Order. This elevated to a point of war between the two nations. We are, of course, supporting Cazelia in this matter. Unfortunately, the Grand World Order is a heavily-fortified nation. In order to effectively capture any area, we will need to substantially weaken it first. Our eyes are set upon their North American State

You will enter long before any of our other forces. Each team will be flown in by an Air Force C-130 Hercules transport plane into international waters near the Alaskan archipelago, a thirteen-hour journey. Then you will be air-dropped from the planes in Advanced Beach Commando Deployment Systems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASDS). The ABCD Systems will stealthily carry closer towards the coast, hopefully avoiding detection. Once in range, you will deploy from the ABCD Systems, SCUBA-style. You will covertly make your way ashore.

Once there, your mission will be to generally wreak havoc on the city, destroying air defenses and fortifications, linking up with any rebel groups, if possible, and committing general acts of sabotage. You will keep casualties on civilian non-belligerents to a bare minimum. keep in mind that all cities have massive fortress-grade walls with weapons emplacements, and will be hard to infiltrate. Stick to the countryside until reinforcements arrive. Concentrate especially on destroying air defenses. Do not take prisoners of any soldiers, they will most likely be sociopathic clones. That said, you will probably come more into contact with the Federal Guard, their paramilitary police force.

In the coming days, Army Special Air Service troopers and Air Force Reconnaissance Commandos may or may not arrive to assist you, followed by a large conventional force.

Remember who you are, foremost, the elite of the elite, a Royal Navy Beach Commando. Conduct yourself as such. Hoo-yah Boys!"

"Hoo-yah Commodore!" came the resounding reply as the teams of Beach Commandos saluted and began to file out the room to board the C-130s.

Bloemfontein Military Barracks
Greater Empire of Atruria

Elsewhere in the Empire, General John Mbeki and a dedicated core group of military planners were beginning to formulate their ideas for an invasion force for the GWO's North American State. So far, they had decided that the 2st Imperial Banner Fleet would serve as the initial naval force. It would deliver Marine Light Infantry brigades to storm the beaches of GWO North America. Carrier air wings would then mount a bombing campaign on defenses, before paratroopers would subsequently be deployed further inland and establish an airhead.

Elements of the 2nd Imperial Banner Fleet would ensure the safety of the naval logistical route. As other elements of the 2nd Imperial Banner Fleet delivered heavier forces to support the Marines, they would advance, linking the beachhead to the airhead.

General Mbeki reached for his glasses as he basked in the pride of being the general selected to lead the invasion force...

OOC: Grand World Order, what exactly do your North American territories consist of?

((OOC: My North American territories are in the same general location of the following city/city groups:

-San Diego/Los Angeles Area (in California) (Named Silicon Province)
-Salem Region (in Oregon) (Named Hydrogen Province, extremely large megalopolis province, only one city)
-New York Area (Though, most is locked off so that the S.T.F. can use the ruins of New York City for their live-fire wargames) (Named Titanium Province, yields Titanium underground)
-Northeastern Florida (Named Carbon Province, three large cities with a smaller city)
-Corpus Christi Region (In Texas) (Named Sodium Province)
-Haiti (Named West Indies Province #6)
-Southern Missisippi, around the Missisippi Delta (Named Sulfur Province)
-Bismarck area (Named Neon Province)
-Oklahoma City area (Named Oxygen Province, contains two massive sister cities)

Also, know that the GWO is enacting beach restrictions, with the most lenient ones in Sodium Province/Corpus Christi and Haiti.

On a side note, I started detaining Cazelians back in my own Furry Genocide thread (Which started the recent flurry) when the Cazelians threatened to take action.))
Tanaara
26-04-2008, 22:44
OOC: Red Talons - TG sent your way. :p
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It was but a short time before Tanaaran HST ( Hyper Sonic Transports ) in full passenger configuration and Tan Air livery were landing at Sasha's main airport, and ships requesting dockage at the various Greal ports.

Hours previously all Greal broadcasting stations and new media organizations were informed that Greal's government had agree to let all surviving Furries depart the nation. They could be limited to such possessions as they could haul off in a reasonable time. The Domination of Tanaara had agreed to take them in, and that transportation from several ports and airports around the nation would be the staging points.

The Fatal Tertain nation of The Militarized Zone, with it's expertise in large scale perosnell relocation would be heading this vast effort.
Red Tide2
26-04-2008, 22:44
((OOC: Two things then i'll use this as a post for my response. First, the SR-71 Blackbird has a top speed of classified, it uses twin Ramjet engines to propel itself through the upper stratosphere.

Well, it's definantly under mach-3.5 given that the fastest manned aircraft was the X-15(and it was rocket powered). Also, have you seen the Ramjets on the SR-71? Those things are huge.


the Sparrow's are based off the planes in the movie Stealth, using pre-cooled ramjet engines, cooling and condensing the air before it enters the engine, allowing for considerably higher levels of speed once the ramjet reaches speeds exceeding mach 2. They dont just go, 'throttle up, look mach 4' they actually accelerate comparable to a cars acceleration.

(emphasis added)

Stealth was a horrible movie.

According to wikipedia(always a iffy preposition, but this article seems accurate enough), the Ramjet gives little to no thrust below mach-0.5 and only outperform regular jet engines in excess of mach-2. This means your airplanes, by all acounts, would be catapulted off the decks of your carriers... and then go straight into the sea.

EDIT: Unless your operating Air Turbo Ramjets, in which case, okay then...

Second, How do you pick up stealth aircraft on radar?

Certain late-1940's RADARs can detect stealth planes, they are, however, useless at guiding missiles. The RADAR that have detected you are modern ones that are powerful to the point that it can fry medium-sized birds that fly directly infront of the dish. Remember, Stealth does not equal complete invisibilaty to RADAR. It merely reduces your RADAR signature, it does not eliminate it.

Third, to Tanaara, i'm attacking Red Tide, not Grael, unless i mis read and red tide isn't enacting genocide on neko's o.o in which case i'll feel very stupid.....))

I am killing Nekos. Not because their nekos, of-course, my nation does not discriminate. It's because the Neko population of Red Tide decided to segregate itself from the rest of the nation. The General Secretary does not like that form of autonomy.

EDIT: Oh, and how far out is your carrier group?
Greal
26-04-2008, 22:45
There was a delay in the delivery of the furries, but eventually, one by one, they were sent out of Greal. For the first time in weeks, the capital was quiet from the fighting. The Greal Government, now was considering more things, like joining the Anti-Furry Alliance........


OOC: I thought this was going to die right away, but seems like it got every in.
The Scandinvans
26-04-2008, 22:51
OOC: All that you are doing is casuing a large conflict by attacking Greal.
Vanteland
26-04-2008, 23:09
Official Reply
"The former-Cazelian Assets consist of the following:

x2 Automobile Factories(all equipment seized intact)
x1 Steel Mill(partially damaged during the seizure)
x4 Canned Food Plants(3 seized intact, 1 partially damaged)

Initial offering price is still being determined..."
End Message

Official Corporate Telegram:
To: The Totalitarian State of Red Tide
From: The Buy & Sell Corporation
Noting the damage done in two of the areas, and the fact that Red Tide is apperantly under attack, I am willing to personally wire fifty million Universal Standard Dollars to pay for these possessions. In addition, the fifty million USD's would also pay for temporary protection until the Commonwealth Army can be deployed to protect the investments. Afterall, your nation is, for the moment, a war zone.
-Tucker Boot: CEO of Buy & Sell, Inc; President of the Vanteland
The Grand World Order
26-04-2008, 23:18
((OOC: I'm going to make a thread for all hostile actions against the GWO, I'll have the link up after it's made.))
Red Tide2
26-04-2008, 23:28
Official Corporate Telegram:
To: The Totalitarian State of Red Tide
From: The Buy & Sell Corporation
Noting the damage done in two of the areas, and the fact that Red Tide is apperantly under attack, I am willing to personally wire fifty million Universal Standard Dollars to pay for these possessions. In addition, the fifty million USD's would also pay for temporary protection until the Commonwealth Army can be deployed to protect the investments. Afterall, your nation is, for the moment, a war zone.
-Tucker Boot: CEO of Buy & Sell, Inc; President of the Vanteland

IC: Official Reply
"Although we do not know what you are talking about when saying 'Red Tide is currently under attack', we accept your money and will await the managers of your corporation for the official transfer of the property."
End Message

OOC: You must have me confused with GWO. The only people who are coming at me is Red Talon, who is not intent on invading me, merely retrieving the none-human people who are being killed.
The Grand World Order
26-04-2008, 23:43
((OOC: All actions involving the GWO and the Furries are now to be put in this thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13644782#post13644782 ))
Greal
26-04-2008, 23:58
OOC: I guess the genocide has ended, and I have to go.
The Lone Alliance
27-04-2008, 00:19
Secret IC:
To Red Tide
Wasting money killing someone for not paying taxes when it is in fact better to force them to work to equal the share they owe is stupid. Unless you are trying to look 'badass' like the rest of the attention whoring nations, we are suprised you would waste bullets when you could instead profit off of this. After all dozens are nations paying large amounts of money to save these non-humans. If you really want a quick buck, sell them all and seize whatever they have left behind in your nation, that should be worth whatever money they EVER owed you for being allowed to exist in your nation.
-Lone Alliance Ministry of Common Sense. Dirty Deals Department
Stoklomolvi
27-04-2008, 00:32
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Stoklomolvi Commissariat of State
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 0, Null Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: General Statement

Stoklomolvi asserts that what the Totalitarian State of Red Tide did or did not do is not a matter of the Lone Alliance. However, Stoklomolvi applauds the execution of tax evaders, for the execution of these criminals would allow for the seizing of their land and the use of the corpse for research or whatever may be needed. Non-humans, presumably the furfags that have been debated about countless times, are mutations and ought to be destroyed, as Stoklomolvi is currently doing. Note that tax evaders will continue to evade taxes for as long as they live; furfags can be replaced by humans who will then work in place of the previous burdens on society. Why bother keeping worthless beings in your country when you can exterminate them?

Regards,
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Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
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Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
Vanteland
27-04-2008, 00:40
IC: Official Reply
"Although we do not know what you are talking about when saying 'Red Tide is currently under attack', we accept your money and will await the managers of your corporation for the official transfer of the property."
End Message

OOC: You must have me confused with GWO. The only people who are coming at me is Red Talon, who is not intent on invading me, merely retrieving the none-human people who are being killed.

OOC: Ah. My mistake. I skimmed the posts, and it looked like an aerial attack. Once again, sorry.

IC:

Jack Boot stepped slowly out of the helicopter, and ran his hand through his slicked back hair. He was, for all intents and purposes, a younger version of his father. The pinstripe suit, the black UV sunglasses, the dazzling white teeth, the coal black hair, and the cold, heartless eyes. He was truly the end product of eugenics, having been descended, even if somewhat distantly, from such notable Capitalist as Adam Smith, Jan Coen, Robert Clive, Cecil Rhodes, John Keynes, Bucktooth Beaver*, Claudius Griffincrest, and his father, Tucker Boot.

A few Red Tidean executives came his way. "All right, I'm the representative from Buy & Sell. As you undoubtedly know, the money has already been wired, and I understand there's only a few signatures before this whole deal is official." Jack said, whipping his pen out, "By the way, I'll be the chief executive for Buy & Sell investments here until these things are off the ground. So I'm sure we'll meet again."

*A Nova Brittanican oil tycoon
Red Tide2
27-04-2008, 01:16
Private Airport PAP-00532, Ariga, Totalitarian State of Red Tide

Jack Boot was met by a Intelligence Commissariat Officer, his uniform indicated him as a Colonel, and a Interior Ministry Official.

"Indeed, there are some papers to sign." The Official said, pulling out and handing over four documents, "Simply sign each of these forms with your usual signature and the properties will be yours. Note that these are actually two pairs of copies. One set is to be kept by the Interior Ministry, the other is for your company to keep."

The first two forms simply affirmed the transaction like any other contract. The other form stated that Buy & Sell must be willing to follow all internal Red Tidean Laws and Codes, etc, etc.

After handing those over, he pulled out two business-looking cards.

"This first card contains information to contact the Interior Ministry, if you have any issues, contact them, they'll handle it. The second one is the Tech-Com Corporation Construction Department, if you are looking for permanent residence, call them. And your hotel limo is waiting for you at the pick-up area. It should be easy enough to spot, the man will have a sign with your name in English on it."

The Official paused for a moment, and then said, "Oh, and forgive me, I am Ivan Merekovich Minaskov." He motioned to the Commissariat Colonel "This is Commissar Colonel Nikita Devlov Denovich Beskov, the Commissariat is providing security for the property until your people can take over."

The Colonel merely nodded at Jack, his facial expression all business.
Vanteland
27-04-2008, 01:56
Private Airport PAP-00532, Ariga, Totalitarian State of Red Tide

Jack Boot was met by a Intelligence Commissariat Officer, his uniform indicated him as a Colonel, and a Interior Ministry Official.

"Indeed, there are some papers to sign." The Official said, pulling out and handing over four documents, "Simply sign each of these forms with your usual signature and the properties will be yours. Note that these are actually two pairs of copies. One set is to be kept by the Interior Ministry, the other is for your company to keep."

The first two forms simply affirmed the transaction like any other contract. The other form stated that Buy & Sell must be willing to follow all internal Red Tidean Laws and Codes, etc, etc.

After handing those over, he pulled out two business-looking cards.

"This first card contains information to contact the Interior Ministry, if you have any issues, contact them, they'll handle it. The second one is the Tech-Com Corporation Construction Department, if you are looking for permanent residence, call them. And your hotel limo is waiting for you at the pick-up area. It should be easy enough to spot, the man will have a sign with your name in English on it."

The Official paused for a moment, and then said, "Oh, and forgive me, I am Ivan Merekovich Minaskov." He motioned to the Commissariat Colonel "This is Commissar Colonel Nikita Devlov Denovich Beskov, the Commissariat is providing security for the property until your people can take over."

The Colonel merely nodded at Jack, his facial expression all business.

Reading through the papers in thirty seconds while the men talked, Jack signed with a flourish of the pen. Then, looking up, he graciously accepted card after card from the man, nodding and shaking hands. Finally, as the group was about to leave, he stated, "Fifty million is pocket money for such richmen as myself. You can expect more investments, arms probably, coming soon."
Keilaniemi
27-04-2008, 02:18
IC:

From the offices of His Excellency Lord Protector Kalle Huttunen (2nd term, elected 2007), to the Archon of the Domination of Tanaara :

"Greetings, esteemed ally.

As per our previous agreement, both our civilian and military airports are clear and open for landing. All Tannara refugee airplanes have authorization to land for refueling at Helsinki-Vantaa and Helsinki-Malmi, Karhu, Kallio, and Sokos airports, along with Sornainen, Turku, and Hakaniemi airbases.
Ground crews are prepped and ready for refueling and emergency tasks.

We are also ready to help in evacuating the furry refugees, either to Tanaara, or to Keilaniemi - our 16 million strong nation is capable of absorbing around 500.000 to 1 million furry refugees.

For this purpose, our entire civilian air-fleet was preemptively grounded and prepped for refitting, following your prompting.
The 5 Boeing 747s, 12 Airbus A321, and a few other miscellaneous small size jet aircraft (under 100 passengers) servicing the national Keilanair company are currently in hangars, waiting to be refitted for carrying more passengers.

As per the latest national referendum, We have also been tasked with appropriating all cruise ships, large ferries, and large fishing ships, to compose a refugee fleet.

All ships have been sent to Greal, and are waiting in international waters for Tanaara permission to join their humanitarian convoys. The ships have been sent in advance, as sea travel takes quite a bit longer than air travel. If Tanaaran permission is refused, the ships will return home.

As a specification - We desire permission from the Domination of Tanaara to fly our airplanes and sail our refugee ships under Tanaaran colours, to save time that would be spent in diplomatic agreements with the Greal government.

Signed,

Lord Protector Kalle Huttunen (2nd term, elected 2007)."
The Lone Alliance
27-04-2008, 02:35
*SNIP*

Perhaps you need to learn to READ as it was SECRET IC as in you couldn't read any of my message.

Note to self: find an excuse to kick Stok's ass.
DVK Tannelorn
27-04-2008, 04:51
OOC: Jeezus, mate, i literally fell asleep reading this post... granted, i was kinda pissed drunk at the time, but still... There've been some long posts before, but none as boring and lacking in content as yours a considering it was mostly IC, i feel i must congratulate you for successfully impersonating the most annoying kinds of boring politicians and general demagogues that fill the airwawes daily spewing tons of material barely containing minute ammounts of data...

Please understand, i have nothing personally against you, i'm just concerned about the possible health risks, comas and whatnot, caused by your posts...

For one, the post did contain much information. Most people who have been playing NS for some time do not write posts that contain "I launch ten thousand nuclear missiles" with a period and thats it. As for my post containing no information? It was a discussion between the heads of state of Tannelorn, talking about how the furry crisis is going out of control and there would be a possible nuclear war.

We then decided to do something about it..lacking information..hardly. It contained a great deal of information on my nations attitudes and ideas. Considering this is a Roleplay forum, it is more then justified to "role play" your heads of state. Just because two world leaders joke around about different cultures while discussing it doesn't make them demagogues. It makes them Realistic.

To be honest saying something like that to people who have been around for some time while they are dealing with ongoing RP's could be grounds for flaming. As many people write posts containing very similiar content, concerning discussions of heads of state. Take a look at the Nationstates forum for examples.


I say this not because i am really all that offended by your opinion, and i was trying to emulate real politicians [not just the worst kind, they are all like that.] but because this could be interpreted as flaming and flaming could get you in trouble.
Keilaniemi
27-04-2008, 15:13
SNIP, SNIP, Super Happy Fun cut time !

OOC:
In RP every bit of info goes, and actually adds to the value of the RP, as it gives insight into your thinking when RPing.
By which i mean that describing a political debate is more than ok.

I know you've been here longer, no need to wave it around, i've read the "joined 2004" under your nickname the first time - that's neither a justification nor an excuse though.

Considering flaming - i actually agree with you about my previous post, it began as an attempt at funny criticism, but got sidetracked along the way.
Considering how much beer i had that evening, i'm really wondering how the hell i even managed to type that on the iPod's screen keyboard, without the result sounding like Orc speak (it's not that far from it even now) :)
Also, if it wasn't for the beer, i probably would've just read your post, and then said nothing about it.

But still, this doesn't change my main point... your writing style simply isn't compatible with extremely long posts - the information presented is usually camouflaged in a lot more text than actually necessary, making it very difficult to digest.

Long posts are superb, even with small amounts of actual information, when you have someone really talented to write them... i've read some really beautiful narratives on this forum.

I've also read a lot of your posts - and you do post some good stuff too, but mostly only when you keep it short (by which i mean paragraphs, not whole pages or novellas - i don't mean one sentence).
But really, after reading one of your multiple-pages long posts, Spinoza's "Ethics" starts to look like an action packed epic saga in comparison...

I'm actually in the same boat with you - if i keep it short, and concise, in a few paragraphs, i can give out all the information i want, and maybe even manage a decently written article or post.
But if i keep at it, the result is usually an overly long, bloody boring mess, offering readers as much fun as reading an excel sheet, with the added disadvantage of also camouflaging all the information in the excel sheet under clouds of text.

Now, that's it on my part, i won't harass you any longer on this theme :)
There was absolutely no point to my previous comment and to this one, other than to try to make RPing in NationStates more fun, by helping refine some posts.

I'm not insisting that you change your writing style, and i'm not proclaiming that it's sucking the fun out of NationStates altogether (well, i kinda did in my previous post, but you know, drink=stupid), it's completely your choice if you'll do something about it, or keep writing the same.

P.S.: I wanted to send this as a telegram, but the homepage listed in your profile leads to a "Nation Not Found" (it's dvk_tannelorn there)... i found the nation of Tannelorn, without dvk, but i wasn't sure it was you, so i post here.
Red Talons
27-04-2008, 15:20
((OOC: I'm willing to drop the speeds, basically the Red Talons are the largest private army in the world. Their entire nation works towards their military. So with two engines for each fighter and bomber. And actually the hybrid ramjets can operate at any speed, its the actual ramjet part that cant. its like a Mowped setup, part of the engine works at low speed and once the ramjet is able to kick in it switches over. Don't ask me the details, its easier to look it up on Wiki.

Say top speed of 3.7 then?

As for my fleet, its stationed well out into international waters. Its nowhere in artillery range, even for my own ships, its being kept to aircraft only. I dont have specs on my ships at the moment, I don't want to run an engagement with the fleet at the moment.

And the Blackbirds top speed is classified. The military wont release the information on its top speed, so they say it goes a max of 3.7 or whatever when it very well -could- have a top speed of mach 5. Theres no way to know unless you have the clearance.

As for the stealth systems. An F117 stealth bomber actually doesn't show up on radar at all. With something moving faster than mach 2, even if you could track it with radar, it would be feeding the missiles unreliable data.))
Red Tide2
27-04-2008, 15:54
OOC: Enough on the speeds, right...

As for your fleet... that does not tell me how far out it is. International waters could be a minimum of 22 kilometers from my shoreline out. So please, how far out, in kilometers, are your ships?

As I said, given a powerful enough RADAR you can detect anything. And I am not even going into other forms of detection systems, such as LADAR, LIDAR, IR, etc.

EDIT: Also, the information you provided on your group is contradictory.

If your a nation, that means you have a homeland and a civilian population that can be attacked. In which case, this attack will be traced back to you and you will be invaded.
Red Talons
27-04-2008, 17:44
((OOC: Well, The fleet is stationed about 400 kilometers offshore, unless this would put me past the center of international waters. As i don't have a map i don't know.

As for the nation, They do technically have a homeland. Their sort of like the french foreign legion. Their made up of all sorts of peoples. They use various small uninhabited islands around the world as bases. This is the whole of the fleet, seeing as according to some rule i'm not allowed to have beyond a certain number of ships. Anywho, the ships are masked by artificial clouds to prevent eyes in the sky, and expert hackers passively moniter broadcasts and signals.

And actually, i never said i was a nation, i said i was a Mercenary Republic.))
Red Tide2
27-04-2008, 18:12
OOC: 400 kilometers offshoe, yes that is international waters... but it's also about 200 kilometers within my most common anti-ship missile range. It's also even further inside my detection range. Don't worry though, I don't plan on attacking your little fleet. Yet...

And I still need you to reply to that message I sent to your planes before I can do anything further...
Red Talons
27-04-2008, 18:35
The reply was short. Also in russian. "This is Tango leader on a mission of mercy to remove any non humans from your borders."
Red Tide2
27-04-2008, 20:33
The Red Tidean reply was not very friendly. At the point the Red Talon Aircraft crossed into Red Tidean airspace, their warning systems went absolutely beserk, as upwards of 1,000 Surface-Air Missiles bore down on the Red Talon fighters and bombers. It was another example of the Red Tidean doctrine: 'Always overkill the target.'

The missiles were MDM-4. The staple of Red Tidean airdefense, the MDM-4 had a speed of mach-4, a range of 115 kilometers, and a intercept ceiling of 100,000 feet(approximately 30,000 meters). The Red Talon planes were well inside the missiles intercept envelope, as they were flying only at 40,000 feet. There was 1,000 missiles, 180 Red Talon fighters, bombers, and transports. That meant that there were 6.25 missiles per plane, such a figure meant sure death for even the most skilled of pilots.

Simultaneously, upwards of 1,000 Su-30RT Fighters were scrambled, their pilots rushing out to their prepared aircraft. The planes jobs were to finish off any survivors of the SAM salvo.
Red Talons
27-04-2008, 21:31
At the sound of the incoming missiles, the aircraft did something quite interesting. The transports banked around, returning to their ships, while the fighters entered a dive, The bombers deploying scrambler flares designed to confuse the living crap out of any tracking systems. The interceptors breaking formation as they dropped in a matter of seconds from 40 thousand feet to under fifty, the ace pilots pulling up while deploying flares. their G suits straining to keep them conscious.

The carriers deployed another 4 wings of interceptors, numbering 28 total. overhead the fleet circled a refueling plane, ready for the returning transports.
Red Tide2
27-04-2008, 21:43
The tactic did not fully work, sure some missiles managed to be decoy away or dodged, but Red Tide had made their missiles smarter then that... that and the fact they had fired too many to be avoided by basic manuevering tactics and countermeasures.

There were still 634 missiles on the bearing down on the Red Talon planes. The vast majority of them were zooming in on the transports, as those had not made any manuevers to avoid the missiles.
Mokastana
28-04-2008, 04:20
OOC: gone for two days and the world goes to hell, what is going on? can someone get me a short version?
Greal
28-04-2008, 04:25
However, it was not over. The Greal Government forgot to ship the furries in the east, so, they were slaughtered and fed to the tigers of the north.
Tanara
28-04-2008, 04:29
Greal will find that the funds supposedly shipped by Tanaara was in fact a sophisticated A. I. program that wiped out Greal's stockmarket, its national treasury and all on line, in country data bases hooked up to their internet...
Greal
28-04-2008, 04:40
Greal will find that the funds supposedly shipped by Tanaara was in fact a sophisticated A. I. program that wiped out Greal's stockmarket, its national treasury and all on line, in country data bases hooked up to their internet...

OOC: My Computer security systems are not stupid.........I might have to ignore this
Mokastana
28-04-2008, 04:40
OOC: so dead furries? not including the ones I have been shipping back to Mokastana

Is Sasha and Wormer doing ok? cuz to be honest I doubt my commanders will leave their cities
Tanaara
28-04-2008, 04:49
OOC:

How about then I Ignore this:
The Greal Government forgot to ship the furries in the east, so, they were slaughtered and fed to the tigers of the north.


and in turn you can ignore this:

Greal will find that the funds supposedly shipped by Tanaara was in fact a sophisticated A. I. program that wiped out Greal's stockmarket, its national treasury and all on line, in country data bases hooked up to their internet...

and honor and good faith are retained on both sides?
Greal
28-04-2008, 04:52
OOC: They were actually being kept secretly in the east, do you think the "Grealiltes" would actually ship them all to your nation?
Tanaara
28-04-2008, 04:54
Okay Greal if thats the way you want to play it, your treachery will be noted, remembered and you left with nothing but a reputation left in tatters.
Greal
28-04-2008, 04:59
OOC: Never mind then

Do you RP Tanaara and Tanara?
Tanaara
28-04-2008, 05:31
Yes
Red Talons
29-04-2008, 03:28
The transports increased their speed, dropping a small cloud of flares and chaff an instant before performing evasive rolls, descending to lower altitudes.

Meanwhile, each of the combat pilots with missiles on them began performing a rather interesting series of maneuvers. Snapping air brakes and dropping the engiens output while pulling up sharply. Causing the jen to snap into a verticle position and slowing to subsonic speeds before kicking on afterburners to rocket into the sky, deploying flares in their wake.

A number of the pilots were too slow, SAM's impacting their planes with devastating effects. All in all a dozen planes were lost, mostly bombers that couldn't maneuver at the same ratio's as the interceptors.

One interceptor bore its own custom markings. It was piloted by a vetran ace of many years. He switched on his short range com. "This is Reaper to all wings. Tango's bearing in on multiple vectors. Approximately 1000 in total. at varying ranges. Sam fire is keeping up. Focus on the Sams untill tango's arrive. ETA 3 minutes."

The interceptors began strafing runs on the sam sites in the area. The bombers dropping to low altitude to drop smart bombs. Their internal racks holding more than a dozen of the compact explosives.
Dragonicale
29-04-2008, 04:04
OOC: Would I be I involved in these incidents? I'm finding a excuse to get involved. Preemptive strikes yall know :P
Red Tide2
30-04-2008, 01:59
OOC: Going to lose alot more bombers due to the fact they never tried to manuever.

Also, how are you attacking SAM sites... when your still a good 5 kilometers from land?

IC: The Red Tideans watched... as the Red Talons tried to strafe and bomb SAM sites that were out of their engagement range. Even had they been in range to attack a few SAM sites, Red Tide had many, many SAM batteries in the area. The Su-30's were ordered, instead of engaging the enemy to hold back.

More warning alerts as more SAM's flew into the air, in addition to the (now) 132 missiles still boreing down on the transports, a hoard of another thousand MDM-4's, now completely targetting the bombers and fighters, lifted off the ground and screeched towards the Red Talon planes.