NationStates Jolt Archive

First Stoklomolvi Election

With Alexei growing older and requiring an heir, he offered his position of Commissar to his son, Nikolai. However, his son decided to hold democratic elections for the first time in 1,839 years, when the Republic of Stoklomolvi still existed. A number of candidates have appeared, with five gaining the majority and the remainder being booted off of the political stage. The candidates are as follows. Specific questions may be asked, and note that this is a serious, unbiased election.

Nikolai Alexeiovich Stuyonovich
Communist, wants to maintain current regime
Son of Commissar Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich

Boris Karlstinovich Yaganov
Communist, wants to change more towards State Capitalism and maintain current dictatorship
Son of a wealthy chief executive officer

Alexei Skylivovich Keltsin
Communist, wants to change radically towards a Capitalist Republic
Son of a peasant

Vasiliy Marioslovich Kolchin
Communist, wants a change to a Capitalist Fascist Dictatorship
Son of a famous political activist

Vladimir Adrianovich Rozanov
Communist, wants a change to a Socialist Monarchy
Descendant of an ancient Stoklomolvi monarch

Vladimir Adrianovich Rozanov
Communist, wants a change to a Socialist Monarchy
Ancestor of an ancient Stoklomolvi monarch

Sorry to nitpick, its just that he couldn't possibly be the ancestor of an ancient Stoklomolvi monarch. I think you mean descendant.

OOC: But what will happen is my commie ally switches to eeeeeevvvvvviiiiiilllllllll capitalism!?

IC:

To: Nikolai Alexeiovich Stuyonovich

We are sending you 2 trillion dollars, don't fuck up this election.

Sincerely,
J. Eldegaard
Minister of Foreign Affairs.

Polling Stations Report - 0.1% of votes have been calculated
Nikolai Alexeiovich Stuyonovich - 35% of total
Boris Karlstinovich Yaganov - 13% of total
Alexei Skylivovich Keltsin - 58% of total
Vasiliy Marioslovich Kolchin - 1% of total
Vladimir Adrianovich Rozanov - 5% of total

OOC: So is this the part where the man supporting the current policies mysteriously gets 99.9% of the vote?

Socialist Monarchy?

Socialist Monarchy?

Like meeeeeeeeeeee!

I actually would support Vladimir Adrianovich Rozanov, but I know that he has a snowball's chance.

Socialist Monarchy?

Sounds like a Communist Tsar. Which would just be strange.

Polling Stations Report - 0.1% of votes have been calculated
Nikolai Alexeiovich Stuyonovich - 35% of total
Boris Karlstinovich Yaganov - 13% of total
Alexei Skylivovich Keltsin - 58% of total
Vasiliy Marioslovich Kolchin - 1% of total
Vladimir Adrianovich Rozanov - 5% of total

OOC: With 2 billion people in your country, it would take a long time to count

Are you using hand ballots of computer ballots?

[OOC: Computer.]

Polling Stations Report - 0.9% of votes have been calculated
Nikolai Alexeiovich Stuyonovich - 27% of total
Boris Karlstinovich Yaganov - 17% of total
Alexei Skylivovich Keltsin - 44% of total
Vasiliy Marioslovich Kolchin - 7% of total
Vladimir Adrianovich Rozanov - 17% of total

Any chance we could RP somebody who may or may not work for Yanitaria making Keltsin "disappear?"

[OOC: If you RP well, he just may mysteriously "drop out" one morning...]

Polling Stations Report - 1.4% of votes have been calculated
Nikolai Alexeiovich Stuyonovich - 29% of total
Boris Karlstinovich Yaganov - 16% of total
Alexei Skylivovich Keltsin - 45% of total
Vasiliy Marioslovich Kolchin - 5% of total
Vladimir Adrianovich Rozanov - 17% of total

OOC: Oh yeah, you guys make it sound like the government really is a government of the people.

[OOC: Use OOC tags. I should have revealed voters, though votes are just support, not actual "vote" votes.]

OOC: Oh yeah, you guys make it sound like the government really is a government of the people.

OOC: Meh, not my people.

Stok: You want me to start a new thread for it?

[OOC: Fine with me.]

Any chance we could RP somebody who may or may not work for Yanitaria making Keltsin "disappear?"

[OOC: Aww, that's no fun. I was about to proclaim victory over communism. :( ]

Shnip

[OOC: Yeah, like that will ever happen.]

IC:
TO: Nikolai Alexeiovich Stuyonovich
Have 500 Billion USD. And don't lose. I like you.

Willheim Zeko

[OOC: Yeah, like that will ever happen.]

OOC:Yeah, I agree with Oily. Honest, decent people will never prevail over corruption and tyranny.

OOC:Yeah, I agree with Oily. Honest, decent people will never prevail over corruption and tyranny.

[OOC: lol wut]

OOC: See sarcasm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sarcasm).

Polling Stations Report - 3.9% of votes have been calculated
Nikolai Alexeiovich Stuyonovich - 8% of total
Boris Karlstinovich Yaganov - 7% of total
Alexei Skylivovich Keltsin - 52% of total
Vasiliy Marioslovich Kolchin - 3% of total
Vladimir Adrianovich Rozanov - 30% of total

Stok: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13638522#post13638522

Polling Stations Report - 6.2% of votes have been calculated
Nikolai Alexeiovich Stuyonovich - 11% of total
Boris Karlstinovich Yaganov - 9% of total
Alexei Skylivovich Keltsin - 55% of total
Vasiliy Marioslovich Kolchin - 14% of total
Vladimir Adrianovich Rozanov - 11% of total

Polling Stations Report - 9.4% of votes have been calculated
Nikolai Alexeiovich Stuyonovich - 7% of total
Boris Karlstinovich Yaganov - 3% of total
Alexei Skylivovich Keltsin - 79% of total
Vasiliy Marioslovich Kolchin - 6% of total
Vladimir Adrianovich Rozanov - 5% of total

OOC: Question: how can they be communist yet some what a capitalist economy? Also, a communist who wants a fascist government is sort of an oximoron.

[OOC: All politicians are forced to be a member of the Stoklomolvi Communist Party. Also, the guy who wants state capitalism is moving towards capitalism but is not being drastic about it; he's slowly moving towards democracy.]

Communist Tsar??Socialist monarchy??
Strange??
This man was close to this ----> http://tnij.org/a3yo

[OOC: Uhhh....erm...ooookay then?]

[OOC: All politicians are forced to be a member of the Stoklomolvi Communist Party.]

[OOC: zomg oppression]

[OOC: zomg oppression][/SIZE]

OOC: Hello, welcome to nationstates. You must be new here. I'm Yanitaria, and you are?

[/Sarcasm]

OOC: Hello, welcome to nationstates. You must be new here. I'm Yanitaria, and you are?

[/Sarcasm]

OOC: My name is Rick Astley.

OOC: lol, who dat?

Polling Stations Report - 17.5% of votes have been calculated
Nikolai Alexeiovich Stuyonovich - 22% of total
Boris Karlstinovich Yaganov - 15% of total
Alexei Skylivovich Keltsin - 39% of total
Vasiliy Marioslovich Kolchin - 17% of total
Vladimir Adrianovich Rozanov - 7% of total

Official Communique of the Confederacy of Kenavt

Dear Alexei Skylivovich Keltsin,

We wish to wire you a monetary donation for your campaign as Head of State of Stoklomolvi. However, we do not know the rules of Stoklomolvian campaigning. Please send us the rules and we will wire you a monetary donation to the maximum extent we can.

Signed,

Kenavt
Premier

Duke da Vincho
Deputy Premier

OOC: You can always help the good guys win!

By the way, is this actually determined by the poll above or by your imagination, Stok?

[OOC: The poll represents foreign support. The more foreign support, the more likely that a candidate is going to win. I use dice :D .]

Letter from secretary of Alexei

Alexei would sincerely thank you if he was here. Unfortunately, we have not heard from him in quite a while, so we will have to wait. About election rules, we have not held elections in 1839 years, and as such we don't truly have many guidelines ourselves.

Official Communique of the Confederacy of Kenavt

Dear Alexei Skylivovich Keltsin's secretary,

When Alexei gets back, please accept this donation of 2 billion dollars towards his campaign.

Signed,

Kenavt
Premier

Duke da Vincho
Deputy Premier

Letter from secretary of Alexei

Alexei would thank you greatly for you most generous donation. We will remember your name, always.

Vasiliy Marioslovich Kolchin for the wins!

FROM: The Office of Volunteer Controller
TO: The Campaign of Alexei Skylivovich Keltsin

Mr. Keltsin,

I applaud your efforts to convert a state of parasitic government into one of free and rational association governed by the people. It is rare that men put their careers on the line in pursuit of such a goal.

Rarer indeed, is when they leave the experience unscathed. I do not want to suggest anything specific to you, as I could be wrong. But if you are ever in need of a place where you can be sure the agents of resistance to rational interactions between individuals will never reach, you have Gesford.

Good luck in all of your endeavors.

Edward Welter
Volunteer Controller
The Office of Volunteer Controller
Rapture, Gesford

OOC: Oh well. The guy's been assassinated anyway(:sniper:). Stoklomolvi's first election in 1839 years, and look how they resolved it.
:headbang:

OOC: Oh well. The guy's been assassinated anyway(-smiley removed-). Stoklomolvi's first election in 1839 years, and look how they resolved it.
-smiley removed-

OOC: We can rebuild him. We have the technology.

OOC: We can rebuild him. We have the technology.

Please do so!!!!!!

OOC: Oh well. The guy's been assassinated anyway(:sniper:). Stoklomolvi's first election in 1839 years, and look how they resolved it.
:headbang:

OOC: That's what he gets for being a capitalist pig. Even the russian people want to go back to at least some form of socialism. My mom's friend, she said "It's like a nightmare, because at least during the soviet times, you could go to the bureau and get food. At least you don't starve.

Polling Stations Report - 24.7% of votes have been calculated
Nikolai Alexeiovich Stuyonovich - 35% of total
Boris Karlstinovich Yaganov - 33% of total
Alexei Skylivovich Keltsin - 0% of total - Eliminated
Vasiliy Marioslovich Kolchin - 5% of total
Vladimir Adrianovich Rozanov - 27% of total

OOC: That's what he gets for being a capitalist pig. Even the russian people want to go back to at least some form of socialism. My mom's friend, she said "It's like a nightmare, because at least during the soviet times, you could go to the bureau and get food. At least you don't starve.

OOC: It's very easy to take the self-righteous view "he's a capitalist pig, we're in it for the will of the people, we want everyone to help each other, etc. " However, by assassinating him you have circumvented the will of the people (even if this poll only reflects foreign support, you have eliminated a choice that apparently some people wanted) and you have sacrificed their future for your own petty grievances and discomforts with capitalism. Capitalist pig? Really? You sound like the worst of the knee-jerk leftist fanatics who can't stand someone disagreeing with them. I know you aren't one of those people, so why do you stoop to that level?

Oh, and speaking to the Russian thing, "during Soviet times", the economy was basically headed to hell. Lets try to think of how long the breadlines would have existed as a viable food option for people had the USSR existed for another 20 to 50 years. Because that's how long governments need to plan in advance. That's why China is going the direction it's going. Because in the long term, Communism doesn't work. Granted, Russia's problems today I would attribute to corruption stemming from overprivatization, but let's look at the root here. Corruption in the first place there stems from people's experiences working in a Communist system. Its mindsets from Communism that dooms Russian capitalism. I would challenge you to find such an example of such rampant corruption in a nation that has never been Communist, and in fact one that has a tradition of strict Capitalism.

I'm not telling you how to run your country, or how to think. I'm just saying that you need to give "capitalist pigs" credit for what they do (ensure the survival of your nation's economy, and thus future) before you decide that they all deserve to die, because "what would we do without the breadlines".

Snip

Tsarist Russia

OOC: That's what he gets for being a capitalist pig. Even the russian people want to go back to at least some form of socialism. My mom's friend, she said "It's like a nightmare, because at least during the soviet times, you could go to the bureau and get food. At least you don't starve.

OOC: These sort of comments were the reason why EA was the way it was.

OOC: Leave EA out of this nao!

However, compared to a Communist Dictatorship where you're dirt-poor but you still have a chance to feed, a Capitalist Russia where you're still dirt poor without food stations seems very, very bad.

Polling Stations Report - 24.7% of votes have been calculated
Nikolai Alexeiovich Stuyonovich - 35% of total
Boris Karlstinovich Yaganov - 33% of total
Alexei Skylivovich Keltsin - 0% of total - Eliminated
Vasiliy Marioslovich Kolchin - 5% of total
Vladimir Adrianovich Rozanov - 27% of total

OOC: Keltsin eliminated??? You've got to be kidding me! I was about to give money to him!!!

OOC: Leave EA out of this nao!

However, compared to a Communist Dictatorship where you're dirt-poor but you still have a chance to feed, a Capitalist Russia where you're still dirt poor without food stations seems very, very bad.

OOC: My point was that the first doesn't have a viable future, and the second does.

Sorry about the rant earlier, this was not the place for that. I just can't stand the capitalist vs. communist debates that consist of "omg, u capitalist pig, die!", and "o fuk u commie scum, die!".

OOC: My point was that the first doesn't have a viable future, and the second does.

Sorry about the rant earlier, this was not the place for that. I just can't stand the capitalist vs. communist debates that consist of "omg, u capitalist pig, die!", and "o fuk u commie scum, die!".

OOC: Yes, but I was just joking. No need to bite my head off. If you want to discuss it, make a thead on what's-it-called-forum-place. Really, my country wants to keep all the time and good relations we've had with Stoklomolvi, and we want the Commissar's son to win. Also, it helps that the Commissar is considered by King Norheim to be a good friend. ICly, I don't see the capitalist as really appreciating Socialist Yanitaria, with it's close connections to Communist Stoklomolvi.

@Indonesian States: That was my doing. I had my secret SF d00dz pop a cap in his... well, head. Also, they tried blowing him up, but the asshole survived.

OOC: Yes, but I was just joking. No need to bite my head off.

OOC: Sorry, I have a way of misinterpreting things like that.

Polling Stations Report - 28.6% of votes have been calculated
Nikolai Alexeiovich Stuyonovich - 35% of total
Boris Karlstinovich Yaganov - 21% of total
Alexei Skylivovich Keltsin - 0% of total - Eliminated
Vasiliy Marioslovich Kolchin - 14% of total
Vladimir Adrianovich Rozanov - 30% of total

Polling Stations Report - 41.2% of votes have been calculated
Nikolai Alexeiovich Stuyonovich - 44% of total
Boris Karlstinovich Yaganov - 23% of total
Vasiliy Marioslovich Kolchin - 12% of total
Vladimir Adrianovich Rozanov - 21% of total

Polling Stations Report - 76.8% of votes have been calculated
Nikolai Alexeiovich Stuyonovich - 78% of total
Boris Karlstinovich Yaganov - 5% of total
Vasiliy Marioslovich Kolchin - 8% of total
Vladimir Adrianovich Rozanov - 9% of total

OOC: Yay! Long live Stuyonovich! True ruler of Stoklomolvi!

Watch, in the final moments, the election will drastically move over to the fascist's side.

Polling Stations Report - 89.2% of votes have been calculated
Nikolai Alexeiovich Stuyonovich - 64% of total
Boris Karlstinovich Yaganov - 32% of total
Vasiliy Marioslovich Kolchin - 1% of total
Vladimir Adrianovich Rozanov - 3% of total

Polling Stations have been delayed in voting.

Polling Stations Report - 91.3% of votes have been calculated
Nikolai Alexeiovich Stuyonovich - 67% of total
Boris Karlstinovich Yaganov - 25% of total
Vasiliy Marioslovich Kolchin - 4% of total
Vladimir Adrianovich Rozanov - 4% of total

***OFFICIAL TELEGRAM***

From: Her Serene Highness Queen Dragana IV of United Balkania

To: Vladimir Adrianovich Rozanov

Comrade Rozanov, as the lone monarchy remaining in the Balkans, the Kingdom of United Balkania officially lends its support to you in the presidential election of Stoklomolvi. It is our wish that your victory will herald an era of returning to the true path of monarchy and aristocracy in these corrupted times. To that end, we have donated the sum of one million Balkanian koruny to your campaign, and we hope the exchange rate is good enough that that will count for something.

With peaceful greetings,
Her Serene Highness Queen Dragana IV