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this is the OOC Thread for The war. For those in It, Here Are The Maps to The Italian and Mediterranean Theaters.

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(OOC: How can wars be closed? WWII would've been pretty weird if it was a closed RP.

Anyway, I'm planning on getting involved eventually, when I find out which side is strongest and the easiest for me to get spoils from.

Also, some maps of your territory would be good too.)

I don't plan on counter-attacking Ryou so maps of his territory are not necessary. Ryou, I expect you to be on your best behavior for this. Ive seen your past wars and I didn't like what I saw. However, I'm willing to give this a try. I'll give you three strikes. Violate them, and as far as I'm concerned Ryou wont exist.

I don't plan on counter-attacking Ryou so maps of his territory are not necessary. Ryou, I expect you to be on your best behavior for this. Ive seen your past wars and I didn't like what I saw. However, I'm willing to give this a try. I'll give you three strikes. Violate them, and as far as I'm concerned Ryou wont exist.

Who said anything about you attacking him? I'd be the one doing that, potentially.

Point taken.

Among others who have declared war.

Among others who have declared war.

Eh?

My Fleet is massing, but I am still planning The Sardinian Campaign so you still have tons of Time to get ready.

Oh and if anyone wants to join in on me and Roma V's Side other then His and Mine Allies and Valtican (Who I am waiting for also) TG me or Roma V.

Eh?

Some of us in the AFA declared war over the bounties. Also, Valtican is in the AFA as well.

I am bored and my nation is Catholic, so I might become a part of this on the side of Roma V.

Ah alright.

If anyone wants to make the particularly unwise move of attacking the Resi Corporation, or if whoever we attack launches a counterattack, here's my map:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f195/wetsail/resimap.jpg

Really, it's just an excuse to show off the map. :p

As Roma V has an embassy in my nation, and the fact that I believe he has asked for nations with Roman embassies to step in, I will be entering the conflict on Roma V's side.

Ryou: TG

Ah alright.I have always wanted to be able to claim that I destroyed a entire species, just because they were bored and because they like fancy fur coats (made from the fur of furries).

Needless to say, Belkaros will hop on the pain train headed for Ryou Black Islands. Also, Emperor Mundus I will be faxing pictures of his genitals to the Ryou capital every day, sometimes twice.

Roma V: You have a telegram

You fool! We're still waiting for them to pay for "your" ransom!

Then again, those could be anyone's genitals...

The Emperor is still gone, but he had a large cache of pictures of his genitals (specifically testicles) created to send to his enemies in the event of A) his death and B)a woman taking his place, not because she is incapable, but because feminine genitals are nice to look at, unlike his furious, furious ballsack.

You just have random photocopies of your emperor's ballsack on file? I'd hate to see what else lies in the Lovecraftian depths of your filing system.

Mailing those things out has to be a war crime of some kind.

Lets stay focused guys I don't want the mods shutting this thread down because of excessive talk of male genitalia.

I think that Ryou and Roma V can send dignitaries, etc to Ixania if both of them desire peace. I'll be the third party in this conflict.

I think that Ryou and Roma V can send dignitaries, etc to Ixania if both of them desire peace. I'll be the third party in this conflict.

wish you luck

wish you luck

Thanks, Isa; but I don't think that we'll have much problems if everyone doesn't spend the majority of time bickering, etc.

I posted my IC response in the IC thread.

Thanks, Isa; but I don't think that we'll have much problems if everyone doesn't spend the majority of time bickering, etc.

ha it's not for the peace talk i wish you luck in,but i'am putting the troop's i have in NI on Black 24 hour watch up from White 24 hour watch

ha it's not for the peace talk i wish you luck in,but i'am putting the troop's i have in NI on Black 24 hour watch up from White 24 hour watch

OOC: I doubt Ryou would attack a nation which only has offered to help in peace talks and with refugees.

Sounds like god-moding if I ever heard any.

OOC: I doubt Ryou would attack a nation which only has offered to help in peace talks and with refugees.

TG in what i'am thinking of

So far those I have accepted to aid me are:
The Dictatorship of China-East Asia
The Imperial Republic of Greal
The Democratic Federation of The Atreidond Islands
The Glorious Empire of The Scandinvans
The Imperium of Belkaros
The Nations of the Anti-Furry Alliance

You know, I have not seen Valtican City here. Wonder where he is?

Beats me. But we have enough help so he's not really urgently needed.

The current list of nations in my defensive coalition are:
The Dictatorship of China-East Asia
The Imperial Republic of Greal
The Democratic Federation of The Atreidond Islands
The Glorious Empire of The Scandinvans
The Imperium of Belkaros
The Nations of the Anti-Furry Alliance
The Holy Empire of Zaheran
The Grand Holy Empire of Imota
The Kingdom of Lynion

Ryou, I'd really like a map of your nation now. Even a raw sketch would be good, just anything to see the general shape of your nation, its prominent geography, major cities and roads.

If we don't get one of those we're going to have to take a sneakier approach should we attack you and start offing public officials, and I doubt you want that. I hate attacking developed characters because people put a lot of time into those - which is why I was kind of surprised when you let your pope take a hit like that. I'd have been satisfied with landing his holiness in the hospital from perfectly survivable blood loss or some such.

Anyway, map or I get stabby.

Ryou, I'd really like a map of your nation now. Even a raw sketch would be good, just anything to see the general shape of your nation, its prominent geography, major cities and roads.

If we don't get one of those we're going to have to take a sneakier approach should we attack you and start offing public officials, and I doubt you want that. I hate attacking developed characters because people put a lot of time into those - which is why I was kind of surprised when you let your pope take a hit like that. I'd have been satisfied with landing his holiness in the hospital from perfectly survivable blood loss or some such.

Anyway, map or I get stabby.

I am trying to keep the war in The Mediterranean Sea and Near Roma V

It'd be cool if global wars stayed where you wanted them, really, but they have this nasty habit of, well, being global.

The way the cards are stacked, I'm going to invade your shores because, well, I can. I'm sure your nation has a natural resource or two we can liberate, or at the very least we can install a domineering corporate presence over all aspects of your society - but I digress.

Fact being, we really don't care about Roma V. ICly, they seem like the kind to twiddle their thumbs, shout loudly about religious things, and occasionally buy fine Resicorp products. You, on the other hand, can be a legitimate threat, because you're an imperialistic bully people rally around because you're big. Right now your allies are distancing themselves from you and you've got a fairly mighty coalition forged against you. Much as you'd like to keep the war in the Mediterranean and far, far away from your nation, you just mobilized the better part of your navy away from your nation and the Resi Corporation is completely disengaged from any conflict.

We can go anywhere we want, and you can't tell us where we can't go. :p

That said, map plz k thnx?

It'd be cool if global wars stayed where you wanted them, really, but they have this nasty habit of, well, being global.

The way the cards are stacked, I'm going to invade your shores because, well, I can. I'm sure your nation has a natural resource or two we can liberate, or at the very least we can install a domineering corporate presence over all aspects of your society - but I digress.

Fact being, we really don't care about Roma V. ICly, they seem like the kind to twiddle their thumbs, shout loudly about religious things, and occasionally buy fine Resicorp products. You, on the other hand, can be a legitimate threat, because you're an imperialistic bully people rally around because you're big. Right now your allies are distancing themselves from you and you've got a fairly mighty coalition forged against you. Much as you'd like to keep the war in the Mediterranean and far, far away from your nation, you just mobilized the better part of your navy away from your nation and the Resi Corporation is completely disengaged from any conflict.

We can go anywhere we want, and you can't tell us where we can't go. :p

That said, map plz k thnx?

and as for you even Though Stevid will not enter the war in offensive mode, he might enter it if I am attacked.

You see, I am not useng Stevid as a shield, I only ask him to help in a War if I need it, or if I am Invaded. Stevid Protects most of The Oil Rigs in The Islands so Attacking them meens fighting Stevid's ships.

In Short, you Invade, I ask Stevid to help in Defending The Islands.

Map soon.

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Here is your map. Hope you get blasted.

and this is MT mind you

Eh, I doubt we'd attack the rigs anyway, they're the type of thing we'd like to keep in tact so we can own them after we invade. Besides, being the direct cause of a massive ecological disaster is not good PR, and if our nation has a weakness, it's that it's obsessed with its public image.

People are funny. They can ignore dead, bloodied, and destroyed people and cities, but they can't handle a few oil-covered baby seals.

EDIT: Thanks for the map. I might start the invasion tomorrow, when I have more time.

Eh, I doubt we'd attack the rigs anyway, they're the type of thing we'd like to keep in tact so we can own them after we invade. Besides, being the direct cause of a massive ecological disaster is not good PR, and if our nation has a weakness, it's that it's obsessed with its public image.

People are funny. They can ignore dead, bloodied, and destroyed people and cities, but they can't handle a few oil-covered baby seals.

EDIT: Thanks for the map. I might start the invasion tomorrow, when I have more time.

Ok, more time for me to ask Stevid for help in Defense...........poor guy *Pats Resi on the head then walks away laughing.*

Eh, I doubt we'd attack the rigs anyway, they're the type of thing we'd like to keep in tact so we can own them after we invade. Besides, being the direct cause of a massive ecological disaster is not good PR, and if our nation has a weakness, it's that it's obsessed with its public image.

People are funny. They can ignore dead, bloodied, and destroyed people and cities, but they can't handle a few oil-covered baby seals.

EDIT: Thanks for the map. I might start the invasion tomorrow, when I have more time.

Oh Reis, you invade Ryou, I hit you with unrestricted submarine warfare.

Oh Reis, you invade Ryou, I hit you with unrestricted submarine warfare.

Eek, I hope Resi decides not too.

I take it you on staying neutral unless forced to join the war.

Eh, whatever. It's not like I haven't faced worse people than Stevid before. I got plundered royally by Melkor and the GDODAD a long time ago, I can handle this.

Incidentally, this is all OOC. There has been no IC talk of invasion, and as it stands now the only place the invasion plans exist is in the mind of our leader, the affable and quite drunk Jai Resi.

That's one of the perks to being a dictator. You don't have to tell anyone anything about anything till you want it done.

I accept calling The Royal Code in to defend your nation because he didn't want to participate in offensive action and that was the logical thing for him to do to contribute to the war without attacking his past allies. However, if you call in a massive nation like Stevid to aid in purely defensive measures before there is any credible threat to your nation's defense I'll have to call wank on that and turn back to stabbin' those near and dear to you. The soonest I'd expect you to be able to call up people aside from special cases like The Royal Code to help defend you would be when you see our sizable armada heading your way.

Incidentally, are the red parts of the map cities, or territories? Are the green parts no-man's-land? Or are they unpopulated pieces of your nation?

Oh, and the second anyone steps foot on our soil this gets taken up to post-modern tech. Fair warning.

Eek, I hope Resi decides not too.

I take it you on staying neutral unless forced to join the war.

Yeah, but I'm leaning towards your end, You may be quite annoying at times, but most of the time it's all talk (Not that there is anything wrong with that).

The Vatican started this fight, and Roma decided to support it, if they would invade Vatican city for you and stop them you wouldn't need this from the beginning.

If I do go to sub warfare I'll end up hitting Resi's commerce shipping.

Eh, whatever. It's not like I haven't faced worse people than Stevid before. I got plundered royally by Melkor and the GDODAD a long time ago, I can handle this.

Incidentally, this is all OOC. There has been no IC talk of invasion, and as it stands now the only place the invasion plans exist is in the mind of our leader, the affable and quite drunk Jai Resi.

That's one of the perks to being a dictator. You don't have to tell anyone anything about anything till you want it done.

I accept calling The Royal Code in to defend your nation because he didn't want to participate in offensive action and that was the logical thing for him to do to contribute to the war without attacking his past allies. However, if you call in a massive nation like Stevid to aid in purely defensive measures before there is any credible threat to your nation's defense I'll have to call wank on that and turn back to stabbin' those near and dear to you. The soonest I'd expect you to be able to call up people aside from special cases like The Royal Code to help defend you would be when you see our sizable armada heading your way.

Incidentally, are the red parts of the map cities, or territories? Are the green parts no-man's-land? Or are they unpopulated pieces of your nation?

Oh, and the second anyone steps foot on our soil this gets taken up to post-modern tech. Fair warning.

I know, I will tell him that and wait for you to post your Invasion Fleet heading for me to ask him for help.

and He might Declare war on only you. In World War I, The US Declared war on Germany and Austria-Hungray, but not on Bulgaria or The Ottoman Empire. and those Two never delcared war on the US, they had their own fights with The British, Greeks, Arabs and Russians.

Oh Reis, you invade Ryou, I hit you with unrestricted submarine warfare.

You do what you have to I guess. Just keep in mind what I said about mobilizing. I'd think it'd be kind of weird if your subs were already at Ryou when I got there.

Also, attacks on our shipping lines will be considered an attack on the corporation proper, and all that lovely stuff about post-modern tech will apply.

Sub warfare also has really, really negative political ramifications. It's why the US entered WWI, and that didn't go too well for the Germans. I'm not saying this as a threat, only just so you RP the thing right. I don't want to see stuff like, "SUDDENLY THE RESI FLEET SINKS CUZ OF SUBZ LOLZ". Unrestricted sub warfare is something you do to primarily naval nations like, say, mine, and historically has only been done when the nation using subs doesn't really care about anyone taking offense at it because everyone who could do anything about it is already on one side of the war or the other.

Resi, TLA, do you have MSN Messenger?

Yeah, but I never use it for NS as a rule.

If you want to talk to me, get on IRC like a real man.

You do what you have to I guess. Just keep in mind what I said about mobilizing. I'd think it'd be kind of weird if your subs were already at Ryou when I got there. They aren't, but they can get there.


Also, attacks on our shipping lines will be considered an attack on the corporation proper, and all that lovely stuff about post-modern tech will apply. I'm mostly PMT anyway, depending on what type you mean.

Sub warfare also has really, really negative political ramifications. It's why the US entered WWI, and that didn't go too well for the Germans.
It didn't help that everyone KNEW that it was the Germans.

I'm not saying this as a threat, only just so you RP the thing right. I don't want to see stuff like, "SUDDENLY THE RESI FLEET SINKS CUZ OF SUBZ LOLZ".
"More like, 1 freighter sinks for unknown reasons."

Unrestricted sub warfare is something you do to primarily naval nations like, say, mine, and historically has only been done when the nation using subs doesn't really care about anyone taking offense at it because everyone who could do anything about it is already on one side of the war or the other.
Or one who feels pretty secure that no one will identify who owns the subs.

Resi, TLA, do you have MSN Messenger?
Nope, and when I did it never worked right. Besides right now we don't need to really work together yet.

Yeah, but I never use it for NS as a rule.

If you want to talk to me, get on IRC like a real man.

I don't get on IRC, too many Jerks on there sadly.

Oh and The red areas are Cities.

If you know why I don 't DARE attack TLA, He is more powerful, since he, like you Resi, Is a Golden Age Nation (03 to 05 Nations are from the Golden Age.)

I figured something like that. That's mostly why you're aren't trying to throw your own weight around to bully me out of this, I'm sure.

Oh and I made a new saying that is Getting Ryou Civilians to join The Military.

"Join The Military are Wear this Dress (http://growabrain.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/ugly_dress.jpg)"

See my OOC post in that thread, man.

Or, hell, I'll quote it here.
OOC: Uh, what? There's no plan to invade you even drafted yet. You've already acquired defenses from a larger nation than yourself. There's no credible threat to your home front. In fact, the only place any invasion plans exist are in my leader's inebriated brain.

More to the point, the entire U.S. military is 1.5 million, and you're only four times as large as the US - meaning an appropriate military size for your country assuming you have similar values is something like 6 million. And you're expecting me to believe you drafted up 20 million people from nothing?

Also, everything is EMP-shielded? Seriously? Do you even know how EMP-shielding works?

This is strike one, far as I'm concerned. And that's being forgiving.

See my OOC post in that thread, man.

Or, hell, I'll quote it here.

ICly, I do not know you are going to Invade, I am prepareing for any Counter-attack by Roma V and it's allies against The Islands. So your Invasion plans are safe.

What in the world is IRC? Is it AIM or something? If so Resi may I please have a word with you?

What in the world is IRC? Is it AIM or something? If so Resi may I please have a word with you?

It's a chat channel - you can dl it by searching IRC on google.

Sorry to but in, just commenting.

What in the world is IRC? Is it AIM or something? If so Resi may I please have a word with you?

Use telegrams anyway, Vista doesn't like mIRC right now.

IRC is the original chat program. Think of it like multiplayer notepad.

Updated list of my coalition:
The current list of nations in my defensive coalition are:
The Dictatorship of China-East Asia
The Imperial Republic of Greal
The Democratic Federation of The Atreidond Islands
The Glorious Empire of The Scandinvans
The Imperium of Belkaros
The Nations of the Anti-Furry Alliance
The Holy Empire of Zaheran
The Grand Holy Empire of Imota
The Kingdom of Lynion
The Imperial Republic of Greston

resi lets work to gether

resi lets work to gether

No. You're terrible at RPing and are hurting the fight more than helping it. In fact, I'm not even ruling out that you're a crappily-made puppet nation of Ryou's, designed to give Ryou reason to defend himself.

This is further supported by the fact that Ryou's been silent for a good while now.

Bump

OOC:

I don't think Ryou has puppets, though I could be wrong.

And also that Shira is also Sephiroth. You never heard of him because you don't play FT.

Oh, Travis, you should have seen the old Capitalist-Communist War. His puppet nearly got my nation glassed over by nukes by the USA before we negotiated an end. Then, I got angry at TRBI ICly and now I'm sitting on the fence.

If you give me n00ks, I'll do your bidding...

Oh, Travis, you should have seen the old Capitalist-Communist War. His puppet nearly got my nation glassed over by nukes by the USA before we negotiated an end. Then, I got angry at TRBI ICly and now I'm sitting on the fence.

If you give me n00ks, I'll do your bidding...

You can go ask The Mods and they will tell you that that person who started The Capitalist-Communist War was not me. Nor is Shira.

that or you are scared that you know that they will be right about me haveinf no puppets and The Steppe Empire is a FT nation.

Just letting you know :P

If you did use puppets to sway the war in your favour, then you sir would be the greatest shame of NS that I would know of. If not, then great! RP away.

I would join in the Roma coalition, but I don't have time for a war right now.

No worries, Stoklomolvi. You're not the only nation that cant partake in this or just doesn't wish to. I understand.

No worries, Stoklomolvi. You're not the only nation that cant partake in this or just doesn't wish to. I understand.

One Thing I like to ask, What is your Military like in Numbers and such.

I'll be free after anchor essay craps are due on Thursday and after that damned mathematics test on Friday. About my military, it's more of a brainwashed rabble than an elite fighting force; around 18 million soldiers, 10 million of which are in logistics, and around 140-150 million policemen that I can send to anywhere on earth at will since I do not need logistics for policemen; my civilians are forced to fund that.

A brief description of my military can be found in my factbook. Further information can be easily attained through searching information on the Italian military via Google and Wikipedia as my military is basically the Italian Republic's adopted into Roma V.

I'll be free after anchor essay craps are due on Thursday and after that damned mathematics test on Friday. About my military, it's more of a brainwashed rabble than an elite fighting force; around 18 million soldiers, 10 million of which are in logistics, and around 140-150 million policemen that I can send to anywhere on earth at will since I do not need logistics for policemen; my civilians are forced to fund that.

I was talking to Roma V

I will invade if Resi does. Also, there will soon be a Belkan presence in Roma V.

A brief description of my military can be found in my factbook. Further information can be easily attained through searching information on the Italian military via Google and Wikipedia as my military is basically the Italian Republic's adopted into Roma V.

Ok. I ill RP my Fleet going past Wanderjar's Nation known as Rhodesia (named and based on The REAL one, but much larger, South Africa is Part of it.)

Roma V, in response to your post, TBRI isnt alone.

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I hadent noticed until now, but he's part of the Corporate Alliance (which i am as well). So really, you're the side that's outnumbered.

Also, have the TRBI home islands been invaded already? If so by what nations with how many forces?

He certainly doesn't have 11 nations as far as I know. But it would be nice if he gave the common courtesy as I did to let me know.

If the CA would be willing to back him (which they may, since i'm here on their behalf), he'd have alot more than 11. =]

I hadent noticed until now, but he's part of the Corporate Alliance (which i am as well). So really, you're the side that's outnumbered.

Also, have the TRBI home islands been invaded already? If so by what nations with how many forces?

Just to let you know, no Invasion has started against me...yet. and also, I think Maldorians (Who hates me OOCly and ICly) will stop any CA help in this war.

I have no idea who that is. As of yet i havent mentioned anything to CA anyway.

If it came to it, it's alot easier to fight off endless hordes of enemies on your home turf, so i wouldn't be too startled by all these nations talking tough anyway.

He certainly doesn't have 11 nations as far as I know. But it would be nice if he gave the common courtesy as I did to let me know.

I Forgot the CA, I was more going for the Confederation of Island Nations as the main allies, Posably Stevid if I am Invaded by Resi and Belkaros.

Even if you look at the island alliance that makes it 6 vs 11. Not unwinable by any means. Especially considering the combat experience some of the CA nations that could intervene have.

Roma V, in response to your post, TBRI isnt alone.

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I hadent noticed until now, but he's part of the Corporate Alliance (which i am as well). So really, you're the side that's outnumbered.

Also, have the TRBI home islands been invaded already? If so by what nations with how many forces?

On that note I am also part of the Corporate Alliance and he was kicked out a while ago. Also the CA is dead.

It's dead as a forum known name. But a few of us still keep in touch.

As a CA member, that's why i wasent wanting to fight you in this war. =]

Another update on my coalition:
The Dictatorship of China-East Asia
The Imperial Republic of Greal
The Democratic Federation of The Atreidond Islands
The Glorious Empire of The Scandinvans
The Imperium of Belkaros
The Nations of the Anti-Furry Alliance
The Holy Empire of Zaheran
The Grand Holy Empire of Imota
The Kingdom of Lynion
The Imperial Republic of Greston
The Pacific Isle Dictatorship of Miroxia

Also I accidently counted the Anti-Furry Alliance as single nation which is technically more than one.

If you know why I don 't DARE attack TLA, He is more powerful, since he, like you Resi, Is a Golden Age Nation (03 to 05 Nations are from the Golden Age.)
Wait...

*Checks population count* 6.27 BILLION?

Damn I needed to check that sooner.

I only signed up at the very end of the golden age though.

The Hermes Alliance is pretty much all in favor of Roma V, as we are all mostly AFA members.

Valtican invited me. I'll make an IC post in just a sec.

Valtican invited me. I'll make an IC post in just a sec.

Speeking of Valt, where is he?

Just realised something. Since most of us have fleets moving towards Roma V, whats the time flow with this? We wouldn't want them all appearing at the same time...

Well I posted leaving port and I have been going at one real life hour one NS day until we land and start fighting. It has been 20 minutes since i did that.

Seems like travel to Roma V for most is takes weeks. Greston was the first to arrive.

Well I posted leaving port and I have been going at one real life hour one NS day until we land and start fighting. It has been 20 minutes since i did that.

Ok I'll go with that.

Here is some facts about my Air Craft Carriers and what they carry

Aquila Class Supercarriers= 90 Fighters

Camelopardalis Class Air Craft Carriers=80 Fighters

Dalphinus Class Escourt carrier=70 Fighters

Dorado Class Helicopter Carriers= 70 Helicopters

All Carrier Classes that are in The Ryou Imperial navy are named after Constellations.

only Four Classes of these ships are around, The Ryou are planning tp make 88 Types of Carriers.

Wow. Why would you need more than two or three, though?

Seems like travel to Roma V for most is takes weeks. Greston was the first to arrive.

At around 8:45 or 9:00 eastern central time I will post an arrival.

having 88 Types of Carriers is a waste of money you only need three or two types

Consider losing a carrier that holds 200 planes. You're talking about a multi-billion dollar investment. Lose two of those, and your navy is practically crippled.

Attack sub : costs millions
WTF huge carrier: costs billions

Torpedo's: cost thousands.

I can do math, yay.

OOC: Ryou, so far the most a supercarrier of today can carry is 90 aircraft and helicopters total. Yet somehow you have 230 fighters on a single ship. The sheer size of the vessel would make it highly difficult to steer and also it would take more than weeks to lug it across the ocean even in good weather.

Consider losing a carrier that holds 200 planes. You're talking about a multi-billion dollar investment. Lose two of those, and your navy is practically crippled.

Attack sub : costs millions
WTF huge carrier: costs billions

Torpedo's: cost thousands.

I can do math, yay.

If you've got the economy of Somalia maybe.

OOC: Ryou, so far the most a supercarrier of today can carry is 90 aircraft and helicopters total. Yet somehow you have 230 fighters on a single ship. The sheer size of the vessel would make it highly difficult to steer and also it would take more than weeks to lug it across the ocean even in good weather.

Sorry, I am not that good with Math

OOC: Ryou, so far the most a supercarrier of today can carry is 90 aircraft and helicopters total. Yet somehow you have 230 fighters on a single ship. The sheer size of the vessel would make it highly difficult to steer and also it would take more than weeks to lug it across the ocean even in good weather.

230 planes on a carrier is feasible, albiet that ship will be very, very large. Slow too.

230 planes on a carrier is feasible, albiet that ship will be very, very large. Slow too.

Size has no bearing on the speed of a ship. All that matters is the length:beam ratio of the hull, the hydrodynamics of the hull, and the thrust provided by the propulsion systems.

Thanks Ryou. I just don't think we need to recreate Pearl Harbor x4, you know?

Too many pages to read. I kinda need a update

Size has no bearing on the speed of a ship. All that matters is the length:beam ratio of the hull, the hydrodynamics of the hull, and the thrust provided by the propulsion systems.

Inertia?

Inertia?

That's only an issue when you've got an underpowered ship. Size is again irrelevant.

Wow, Ryou's allies showed up in force. But Roma still has some power on his side.

I think we're going to sit back and watch this one for the time being. When it becomes clear who's getting pounded, then we'll jump in.

I will RP The Fleet coming to the Straits, (If this was in Real Life, it would be 2 weeks since I left Port.) Some Time tonight, before I go to bed.

Wow, Ryou's allies showed up in force. But Roma still has some power on his side.

I think we're going to sit back and watch this one for the time being. When it becomes clear who's getting pounded, then we'll jump in.
The AFA has some 20 some nations, four of which are over 10 billion and an additional two of which are over 8 billion.

How about real soon for i am so tired it hurts to type so can we get this thing moving. Remember I have ships blockading the strait so don't god mode through.

How about real soon for i am so tired it hurts to type so can we get this thing moving. Remember I have ships blockading the strait so don't god mode through.

Same for my fleet. I'm near Greston's

Greston, suppling 150 battleships will be a pain.

How about real soon for i am so tired it hurts to type so can we get this thing moving. Remember I have ships blockading the strait so don't god mode through.

I Thought TLA was in Control of The Strait?

I Thought TLA was in Control of The Strait?

I just read through the thread and you are wrong he does not. Also this is stupid. I am thinking about pulling a Ryou and ignoring and completely justified thread, but I decided against it seeing how many people jumped in.

I think thats rather cheap considering i'm taking a hit for your nation when I you never asked me to.

I think thats rather cheap considering i'm taking a hit for your nation when I you never asked me to.

Who are you talking about, Me or Valtictan

Ryou, are you putting up a post?

I think thats rather cheap considering i'm taking a hit for your nation when I you never asked me to.

I just posted I never said I was ignoring it, I would love to just to give Ryou a taste of his own annoying medicine.

LOL economy of somalia. Seriously though, it takes a year under prime conditions to produce just one guided missile destroyer. You cannot replace a WTF carrier overnight. Given the amount of food, fuel, munitions, support ships, etc, just fielding one of those ships would be a big strain on logistics, and having all that expensive equipment packed into one convenient target makes it a huge liability for the nation using it. Lose it, and it will be awhile before another can be built and launched.

That was the point i was really shooting at.

Same for my fleet. I'm near Greston's

Greston, suppling 150 battleships will be a pain.

I'll be sending a few ships to assist as well. My fleet may be small, but we do what we can.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=554896

LOL economy of somalia. Seriously though, it takes a year under prime conditions to produce just one guided missile destroyer. You cannot replace a WTF carrier overnight. Given the amount of food, fuel, munitions, support ships, etc, just fielding one of those ships would be a big strain on logistics, and having all that expensive equipment packed into one convenient target makes it a huge liability for the nation using it. Lose it, and it will be awhile before another can be built and launched.

That was the point i was really shooting at.

During WWII the average production time for a liberty ship was 40 days, with the record being four days. A MT or PMT nation should be able to produce ships far faster and more efficiently than that because of technology. A super carrier shouldn't take too much time with the resources, technology, and economies of NS nations.

During WWII the average production time for a liberty ship was 40 days, with the record being four days. A MT or PMT nation should be able to produce ships far faster and more efficiently than that because of technology. A super carrier shouldn't take too much time with the resources, technology, and economies of NS nations.

That was WWII, now its more expensive

I always use a little bit of wank in my production of anything large. I want that new star cruiser done before my characters are all dead and rotting, after all. :p

That was WWII, now its more expensive

Due to bureaucracy and a peacetime economy. Neither of which tend to be a factor in NS.

But we would be honored to keep your money in our banking system

Ryou please post your attack on the strait and Roma for I am about to drop dead in like 15 minutes.

Ryou, just for a mention, I'm only here to defend Roma V, not to attack your homeland, if I do, I will need backup.

If you guys want to see if what everybody is doing, check this out
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/online.php?sort=username&order=asc&pp=25

Not to mention that a liberty ship was a piece of scrap metal that was held together with simple girdirs.

I wasent making things up when i made my statement about destroyers. The US navy has them made right up here in Maine at the Bath Iron Works. Takes just short of a year to build and fabricate one guided missile destroyer or cruiser.

I don't think you understand what a peacetime economy means.

Don't presume to know what i know. I know good and well what the difference is.

Even during a super-fast paced wartime production, 8 months would be a stretch for a cruiser. I would not dare say a modern or PMT cruiser could be produced in 6 months even with slave laborers on steriods.

I don't think you understand what a peacetime economy means.

In my country there is no such thing as peace. :D

Ryou: What ships did you lose exactly, those Moskit missiles are very powerful, and the Moksits surely would have destroyed many of your Gothic missile launchers.

Ryou: What ships did you lose exactly, those Moskit missiles are very powerful, and the Moksits surely would have destroyed many of your Gothic missile launchers.

not The 15 Destroyers and 10 Frigates that stood back. nor did it Destroy The Subs and Carriers and Troop Ships that also Stood back at The Straits.

not The 15 Destroyers and 10 Frigates that stood back. nor did it Destroy The Subs and Carriers and Troop Ships that also Stood back at The Straits.

I guess so, you did no direct any Gothics at me right?

I guess so, you did no direct any Gothics at me right?

None, but The Surprise that is in them might blow your way.

a Mix of VX and DDT with a red dye that is known as "Red Death."

My superdreanought has nuclear warheads on board.......

Chemical weapons? I do have biological weapons on my battleships, but I didn't really think about using them.

Well as Bryn Shander is ignoring the Roma ceasefire that must mean they do NOT care about Roma. Especially since Roma stated that the people who did the attack are war criminals. You are violating their Sovergenity by continuing the attack.

Maybe the rest of your AFA allies won't mind, but I think many other nations would think differently. Besides as I have made no offensive actions, hitting 3rd party Peacekeepers who are there to protect shipbound refugees?

Who are asking for peace?

Not a good PR front.

People on NS make war over three Things; Imperialism, Genocide and War Crimes.

Bryn Shander is doing all three.

Resi: looks like you have your Global War. I Think you are going to have to get what will be left of The AFA Nations after this.


As for Me, I am making Peace with Roma, have a Cold War with the AFA and Valtican, and take a small Break from The wars.

I had a feeling something like this would end up happening.

I had a feeling something like this would end up happening.

I know, I think that Bryn Shander wanked in that attack. That is why I wanted you to have VERY close allies in it. The Main Reason it was closed off.

TRBI, thats a very mature and reasonable response and I for one am now really regretting pissing you off. You have handled this war with excellent conduct and basically shown me just how much of an ifiot I was to annoy you.

I know you are ignoring me, but that doesn't stop me from wishing you well in your future endeavours on this board!

TRBI, thats a very mature and reasonable response and I for one am now really regretting pissing you off. You have handled this war with excellent conduct and basically shown me just how much of an ifiot I was to annoy you.

I know you are ignoring me, but that doesn't stop me from wishing you well in your future endeavours on this board!

I am not Ignoreing you now.

I know, I think that Bryn Shander wanked in that attack. That is why I wanted you to have VERY close allies in it. The Main Reason it was closed off.

Well lets face it it would've turned out ten times worse were it an open RP. At least this way we filtered out most of the trouble makers.

And for the most part, you've made a believable if short rp. Its mostly a good read appart from the odd godmod here and there but still, congrats to all involved.. its a shame some people just didnt want to recognise the retreat of an enemy who is effectively surrendering..

*Royal Code claps*

Well done chaps. Glad to see some bad blood cleared up. Ignore cannons can be a bitch ¬_¬

Sorry i couldnt help you out more TRBI, but i dont want to fight my old allies.

Resi: looks like you have your Global War. I Think you are going to have to get what will be left of The AFA Nations after this.Wooo!

I knew it would come to that. People are bored and need some entertainment, and a war always seems to explode all over the forums.

Has the war come to PMT yet, at all? I really want to start using my techwank robot armies.

Has the war come to PMT yet, at all? I really want to start using my techwank robot armies. Ooooo and I can pull my Templar Cyborgs out as well.

And maybe finally I can have a land battle, in all the years I've been here my nation has never been in a land battle.

Bryn, do want my support? The Haven war was retconned, evidentially, so I have all forces available for the conflict.

We can just assume that Dersconi forces were already with the AFA coalition, I don't think that will be necessary. The non AFA combatants have stopped firing, and the enemy fleet is beyond effective strike range at this point. Since the furries have been more or less defeated in this theater, the Shanderan forces will just pack up and go home.

the Shanderan forces will just pack up and go home.
Better take the red sea.
Strait's closed due to blockade.

I find the idea of fighters and transport aircraft needing to take a sea route to be laughable.

Maaan. Somebody starts a perfectly good fight, and before the vikings with carriers can get to the battle, it's over? Damnit, I need someone new to raid.

Maaan. Somebody starts a perfectly good fight, and before the vikings with carriers can get to the battle, it's over? Damnit, I need someone new to raid.

You might join My Up Coming Character RP, See the Thread that shall soon be up.

I was hoping for a battle with Ryou.

You know, next time, If there is a war Between you and me Roma, lets make it Two vs Two. It would be easier for both of us.

I was hoping for a battle with Ryou.

If you wanted to fight me, we can always have a one on one war. Just let me rebuild my Forces for a while......Buy new weapons etc.

We can just assume that Dersconi forces were already with the AFA coalition, I don't think that will be necessary. The non AFA combatants have stopped firing, and the enemy fleet is beyond effective strike range at this point. Since the furries have been more or less defeated in this theater, the Shanderan forces will just pack up and go home.

How disappointing. I haven't wiped anyone off the face of the planet since TFU a few years ago.

Ha to you all, I got to take part in the only battle of the war! :p

I walked by and kicked sand in his face after you pushed him down. :D

I walked by and kicked sand in his face after you pushed him down. :D

And I took down your licencse plate number while you were walking.

And I took down your licencse plate number while you were walking.

Good thing I just sold my car.

And I took down your licencse plate number while you were walking.

And I'm the lawyer for Bryn waiting for him to get sued and fight it in court.

And I'm the lawyer for Bryn waiting for him to get sued and fight it in court.

I'm also a lawyer.

And I am slowly backing away from Derscon, Bryn, and TLA! :D