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The Confederation of Island Nations

The Ryou Black Islands
19-04-2008, 04:34
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The Confederation of Island Nations is a Diplomatic/Trade/Military Alliance made for all The Island Nations on NS.

The Fourms for the Allaince. (http://islandnations.proboards105.com/index.cgi?)

The Charter of the Confederation of Island Nations

We The Peoples of These Islands Nations in order to Help Trade and Defense between Each other hear by Form this Great Alliance, known as The Confederation of Island Nations.

Article I: All Members are recognized as Free and independent nations and are free of control and enslavement by other Nations

Article II: All Members are entitled to join in free trade, if they want to not have free trade, it is allowed.

Article II: All Members can be of another Alliance, This Alliance is for all Island Nations, no matter if They are Communist or Capitalist.

Article III: If War should started between a Non-Alliance nation and a Confederacy Nation, the all members should go to the member’s Defense if it was attacked.

Article IV: Should a Member nation start an Offensive War against a non-Member then all members are free to join in the war or stay Neutral. If a Nation becomes Neutral, they must give a reason why.

Article V: If two Members start a war against Each other, then The two are to be brought to the Confederacy Court to see The reason for the war and to use Diplomacy to end the war, or a trial by Combat between the two warring nation’s top Hand to Hand fighters.

Article VI: Should any Member Nation be attacked by a Non-Member Nation or another alliance, the ALL MEMBERS are to help fight the attacker off, even if going on the Offensive against the attacker or attackers.

Article VII: if a member is hit with a Natural Disaster, or plague, the all member nations must help that nation out in humanitarian aid of any kind.

Article VIII: Genocide is Illegal in all Member Nations. All type of Non-Animal Races (Human, Nekos, Other furries.) are Recognized as sapient. Any Genocide will have the one doing it kicked out.

Article IX: Slavery is Banned from all member Nations, if any nation tried slave labor, then they are kicked out of The Confederacy.

Article X: All or Free to join or Leave this Alliance.

Article XI: even if a Nation is not a Island Nation, they can still join The Confedracy.

Members:

The Ryou Black Islands.
AHSCA
Indonesian States
Kurona
Nippon Kyokai
Prycuse
The Royal Code
AHSCA
19-04-2008, 04:38
Having read the charter the UIS will join
The Indonesian states
19-04-2008, 04:40
The Indonesian States will join this confederation.
The Ryou Black Islands
19-04-2008, 04:41
Having read the charter the UIS will join

Welcome to the Confederation
The Ryou Black Islands
19-04-2008, 04:43
The Indonesian States will join this confederation.

Welcome.
Silver Wolf Republic
19-04-2008, 04:49
We the Holy Tech worshiping nation of the Silver Wolf Republic would like to join.
Conserative Morality
19-04-2008, 05:02
Official message from Conserative morality:
We would wish to join the confederacy of island nations. However, there are 2 articles we have questions about.
Article V does not make sense about the hand-to-hand fighters. And the other question is about article IX, does slave labor include forced work from prisoners?
The Ryou Black Islands
19-04-2008, 05:08
Official message from Conserative morality:
We would wish to join the confederacy of island nations. However, there are 2 articles we have questions about.
Article V does not make sense about the hand-to-hand fighters. And the other question is about article IX, does slave labor include forced work from prisoners?

The hand to hand fighters are to be for any Trial by Combat needed ti end a war between to member nations. a Fight till one gives in.

and Force Work from Prisoners is allowed, but they are to be treated fairly and also, Child Labor is also Illegal.
Conserative Morality
19-04-2008, 05:26
The hand to hand fighters are to be for any Trial by Combat needed ti end a war between to member nations. a Fight till one gives in.

and Force Work from Prisoners is allowed, but they are to be treated fairly and also, Child Labor is also Illegal.
Although we still do not agree with part of article V, we are willing to accept these terms. Our prisoners are treated fairly, and there is no child labor.
The Ryou Black Islands
19-04-2008, 05:39
Welcome to The Confederation
Kurona
19-04-2008, 06:32
The Principality of Kurona wishes to join
The Resi Corporation
19-04-2008, 06:50
Article VIII: Genocide is Illegal in all Member Nations. All type of Races are Recognized as sapient. Any Genocide will have the one doing it kicked out.
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Leadership of the Confederation of Island Nations:

We like eating cows.

No, like, we really like eating cows.

In fact, we seriously kill tons of cows, grind up their bodies into patties, and eat them. We even raise cows from birth just so we can eat them.

Hell, sometimes we even keep their babies from exercising and then eat them just because we can. It makes them tender and delicious. Delicious with suffering.

Where are we going with this? Well, under your current charter, we are genocidal bastards and deserve to be persecuted. All races are recognized as sapient, cows are a race, ergo you recognize them as sapient and we're genociding them.

Yours, with fingers dripping with murder and steak sause,
CEO Jai Resi
Uiri
19-04-2008, 12:55
The Confederation of Island Nations is a Diplomatic/Trade/Military Alliance made for all The Island Nations on NS.

The Charter of the Confederation of Island Nations

We The Peoples of These Islands Nations in order to Help Trade and Defense between Each other hear by Form this Great Alliance, known as The Confederation of Island Nations.

Article I: All Members are recognized as Free and independent nations and are free of control and enslavement by other Nations

Article II: All Members are entitled to join in free trade, if they want to not have free trade, it is allowed.

Article II: All Members can be of another Alliance, This Alliance is for all Island Nations, no matter if They are Communist or Capitalist.

Article III: If War should started between a Non-Alliance nation and a Confederacy Nation, the all members should go to the member’s Defense if it was attacked.

Article IV: Should a Member nation start an Offensive War against a non-Member then all members are free to join in the war or stay Neutral. If a Nation becomes Neutral, they must give a reason why.

Article V: If two Members start a war against Each other, then The two are to be brought to the Confederacy Court to see The reason for the war and to use Diplomacy to end the war, or a trial by Combat between the two warring nation’s top Hand to Hand fighters.

Article VI: Should any Member Nation be attacked by a Non-Member Nation or another alliance, the ALL MEMBERS are to help fight the attacker off, even if going on the Offensive against the attacker or attackers.

Article VII: if a member is hit with a Natural Disaster, or plague, the all member nations must help that nation out in humanitarian aid of any kind.

Article VIII: Genocide is Illegal in all Member Nations. All type of Races are Recognized as sapient. Any Genocide will have the one doing it kicked out.

Article IX: Slavery is Banned from all member Nations, if any nation tried slave labor, then they are kicked out of The Confederacy.

Article X: All or Free to join or Leave this Alliance.

Members:

The Ryou Black Islands.
AHSCA
Indonesian States
Silver Wolf Republic
Conserative Morality

Let's analyze this piece by piece shall we?

Firstly, your set up is strange. Makes it look like the 10 commandments.

Article I: seems ok
Article II: wtf this does nothing.
Article II: it is assumed, unless stated that all members of alliances are free to join other alliances
Article III: seems logical only...this means we will have to cross sometimes multiple oceans in order to reach our ally. Island nations.
Article IV: err... a reason why? we are sovereign nations ands don't have to justify our actions to anyone. What if an ally from another alliance is attacking?
Article V: wtf, try due procedure or a proper war game.
Article VI: redundant, look at Article III
Article VII: seems fine
Article VIII: define race
Article IX: fine, Uiri never practised slavery. Although child labour is common in order to keep the family from falling hopelessly into debt.
Article X: All OR Free? wtf or do you mean all ARE free?

All in all, OSAFU provides the same things only it is bilateral between each other member and myself.
The Ryou Black Islands
19-04-2008, 13:23
The Principality of Kurona wishes to join

Welcome to The Confederation
Lapse
19-04-2008, 13:34
Official Message from the Hypocracy of Lapse

Attn: Leader of the Confederation of island nations
Subject: Conflict of interest in title of alliance

Dear Leader,

As you may or may not be aware, The Hypocracy of Lapse is a nation of established history or peace and harmony. We stand through the great conflicts of the world, avoiding participation in incidents that do not involve us. However, the recent creation of the alliance named "The Confederation of Island Nations" is causing us some severe worry.

It appears that the title of the alliance would suggest that all island nations in the world (Including the Hypocracy of Lapse) are involved in and are members of the alliance. We hereby request and require you to alter the name of your alliance to prevent confusion.

We are confident that this will be resolved quickly without any problems.

Yours sincerely,
The honorable Jonathon Banks;

Master of legal issues
The Hypocracy of Lapse
The Ryou Black Islands
19-04-2008, 13:45
Official Message from the Hypocracy of Lapse

Attn: Leader of the Confederation of island nations
Subject: Conflict of interest in title of alliance

Dear Leader,

As you may or may not be aware, The Hypocracy of Lapse is a nation of established history or peace and harmony. We stand through the great conflicts of the world, avoiding participation in incidents that do not involve us. However, the recent creation of the alliance named "The Confederation of Island Nations" is causing us some severe worry.

It appears that the title of the alliance would suggest that all island nations in the world (Including the Hypocracy of Lapse) are involved in and are members of the alliance. We hereby request and require you to alter the name of your alliance to prevent confusion.

We are confident that this will be resolved quickly without any problems.

Yours sincerely,
The honorable Jonathon Banks;

Master of legal issues
The Hypocracy of Lapse

we will not change the name of The alliance, and all Island Nations are free to join ths Confederacy (what the C.I.N is called also.) and to leave it.

There is no confusion.
Lapse
19-04-2008, 14:03
we will not change the name of The alliance, and all Island Nations are free to join ths Confederacy (what the C.I.N is called also.) and to leave it.

There is no confusion.

Official Message from the Hypocracy of Lapse

Attn: Leader of the Confederation of island nations
Subject: RE: Conflict of interest in title of alliance

Dear Leader,

Perhaps we did not quite make ourselves clear with our last message. We feel that we do not want out nation associated with your alliance. Due to your incredibly generic naming however, it is hard to avoid. We, plus many other island nations of the world do not agree with practices you have implemented regarding regarding a nations sovereignty and feel that your rules would affect us regardless of whether we are members or not.

Failure to rectify the issue immediately, will result in further action as we see fit.

Yours sincerely,
The honorable Jonathon Banks;

Master of legal issues
The Hypocracy of Lapse
The Ryou Black Islands
19-04-2008, 14:30
Official Message from the Hypocracy of Lapse

Attn: Leader of the Confederation of island nations
Subject: RE: Conflict of interest in title of alliance

Dear Leader,

Perhaps we did not quite make ourselves clear with our last message. We feel that we do not want out nation associated with your alliance. Due to your incredibly generic naming however, it is hard to avoid. We, plus many other island nations of the world do not agree with practices you have implemented regarding regarding a nations sovereignty and feel that your rules would affect us regardless of whether we are members or not.

Failure to rectify the issue immediately, will result in further action as we see fit.

Yours sincerely,
The honorable Jonathon Banks;

Master of legal issues
The Hypocracy of Lapse

We think you have it all wrong. The Confederacy isn't for all nations nor is it for all Islands. some don't want in the Confederacy many reason.

the Rules are no isuse, They do not weaken a nations Sovereignty, but protect it. If you are afraid that the Confederacy is a Evil Empire, don't worry. New Articles can be added if members want them added Vote.

The name has nothing to do with joining or not.
Conserative Morality
19-04-2008, 14:31
Official message from Conserative morality:
That seems rather petty. Fighting over a name, perhaps you'd like to rethink this. CM has regained much of it's strength since it's last (Few) debacles, and will defend TRBI if they are attacked. Please reconsider.
The Ryou Black Islands
19-04-2008, 18:39
Bump
Nippon Kyokai
19-04-2008, 20:37
The Empire of Nippon Kyokai will join
The Ryou Black Islands
20-04-2008, 00:36
Bump and welcome to The Confederacy Nippon Kyokai
Prycuse
20-04-2008, 02:04
The Federation of Prycuse, which is an island nation, would like to join the confederation.
The Ryou Black Islands
20-04-2008, 02:08
The Federation of Prycuse, which is an island nation, would like to join the confederation.

Welcome to the Confederation
The Royal Code
20-04-2008, 03:24
The Colonial Empire of The Royal Code would like to join this alliance.

(we have our eye on TRBI, both as an interesting nation, and as a possible ally)
Maldorians
20-04-2008, 03:40
The Mandalorian Empire laughs at this pitiful "alliance" and hereby bans all trade among member of said alliance.

Allahu Ackbar.

~The Mandalore.
The Ryou Black Islands
20-04-2008, 03:43
Welcome to The Confederation Royal Code
The Ryou Black Islands
20-04-2008, 04:08
The Ryou Black Islands Ask all members to declare war on The Nation of Belkaros for the threat of Nuclear attack. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=554737)
The Indonesian states
20-04-2008, 04:34
The Mandalorian Empire laughs at this pitiful "alliance" and hereby bans all trade among member of said alliance.

Allahu Ackbar.

~The Mandalore.

Why?

Allahu Akbar.

Muhammad Hanka,
Acting President of the Indonesian States

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TO: TRBI

We will remain neutral until Belkaros attacks one of our nations.
Lapse
20-04-2008, 08:55
Official message from Conserative morality:
That seems rather petty. Fighting over a name, perhaps you'd like to rethink this. CM has regained much of it's strength since it's last (Few) debacles, and will defend TRBI if they are attacked. Please reconsider.

Official Message from the Hypocracy of Lapse

Attn: Conservative Morality
Subject: RE: Threat of war

Dear Leader,
You obviously feel a need to flaunt your power in a hope we will stand down. We would like to advise you that we do not take kindly to your thinly veiled threats. We had a simple request, which we feel is important to our nation as well as many other nations of the world who do not want to be thought of alongside your alliance.

Infact, due to your obnoxious reply, we now demand not only a change of name of you alliance, but an official apology from Conservative Morality. Failure to do this will result it us disarming your nation.

Yours sincerely,
Dr. Henry Mound K.L;

2nd Minister of foreign affairs
The Hypocracy of Lapse
Lapse
20-04-2008, 08:59
We think you have it all wrong. The Confederacy isn't for all nations nor is it for all Islands. some don't want in the Confederacy many reason.

the Rules are no isuse, They do not weaken a nations Sovereignty, but protect it. If you are afraid that the Confederacy is a Evil Empire, don't worry. New Articles can be added if members want them added Vote.

The name has nothing to do with joining or not.


Official Message from the Hypocracy of Lapse

Attn: Leader of the Confederation of island nations
Subject: RE: Conflict of interest in title of alliance

Dear Leader,
Your idiocy continues to amaze us. Our issue is that with a name like the confederacy of island nations, people will think that all island nations of the world are involved.

We worry that people will assume that your arrogant rules also apply to all island nations - specifically those not involved in your alliance.

You are obviously a war mongering nation. We suggest do not bite off more than you can chew.

Yours sincerely,
The honorable Jonathon Banks;

Master of legal issues
The Hypocracy of Lapse
Cranwell
20-04-2008, 09:57
Having read the terms, Sir Christian Foley, Foreign Secretary for his Majesty's Government of Cranwell, feels it prudent to enter into this alliance.
Conserative Morality
20-04-2008, 13:20
Official message from Conserative morality:
We regretfully inform you that CM is leaving the confederacy. Many of it's members have a knack for getting into trouble, and CM will not get into a situation it cannot handle.
The Ryou Black Islands
20-04-2008, 20:18
new Article.

Article XI: Even of a nation is not a Island Nation, they can still join The Confederacy.
Uiri
20-04-2008, 20:29
OK, now that you have added that article, Uiri is stepping in:

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TO: The Ryou Black Islands
FROM: Uiri
Subject: Your Confederation

Uiri has seen your little Confederation. It has heard of the bickering between your nations and the Hypocracy of Lapse. It has seen you add a new article to your charter. Uiri wanted to side with Lapse, however rumours do not make fact and because it only allowed island nations, Uiri felt the name would be ok. However, with the addition of this new article you are faced with a problem, sent courtesy of myself, David Aposon.

Now that you have opened your 'Confederation' to non-island nations it truly DOES make it sound like ALL island nations, including UIRI and MEGALITHON, are part of this horrid alliance. We demand you find a more suitable name which reflects the fact that you are no different in respect to the membership of island nations than any other alliance. May we suggest the Confederation of Ryou's Only Allies?

David Aposon
President of Uiri
The Ryou Black Islands
21-04-2008, 00:25
bump
Lapse
21-04-2008, 02:51
bump

Dead line to change the name is 8 hours.

How confident are you in your allies abilities and willingness to help you?
The Ryou Black Islands
21-04-2008, 02:56
Dead line to change the name is 8 hours.

How confident are you in your allies abilities and willingness to help you?

OOC: I added you on MSN Messenger.
Exetoniarpaccount
21-04-2008, 02:56
Exetonia agrees somewhat with both name change parties but refuses military action.
Lapse
21-04-2008, 03:06
OOC: I added you on MSN Messenger.

OOC: at uni now. I'll be home in about 5-6 hours
The Indonesian states
21-04-2008, 04:24
The Indonesian States also suggests that you immiediatly change the name of 'The Confederacy of Island Nations', to something more suitable. There is no need to be bickering about a name.
The Ryou Black Islands
21-04-2008, 04:26
I will do it ASAP

Oh and Here is the Confederacy's first test if you are wanting to get into it. You are invited into it: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=554812
Silver Wolf Republic
21-04-2008, 04:58
Sirs: With a heavy heart we must leave after such a brief time your wonderful alliance. Seeing as we are not ready to fight a war with every nation, over the fact of if they want to kill being in thier lands or some one saying something about a leader.
The Ryou Black Islands
21-04-2008, 16:36
Bump
The Ryou Black Islands
10-06-2008, 23:56
Bump: I will call a meeting of this allaince soon.
The Ryou Black Islands
26-07-2008, 21:52
http://islandnations.proboards105.com/index.cgi?


Our Own fourms
The Ryou Black Islands
24-09-2008, 16:59
Bump
Adunabar
24-09-2008, 17:41
We politely request that you change the alliance name, seeing as non-island nations can also join.