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With New Empires comes new things as the Old words of Ryou Wisemen say.

Well, Those wisemen didn't think of religion. As The Island had total Freedom of Religion, the Empire had no state Religion, those that tried forceing State Religion offen found them selves the Targets of the Imperial Military.

But what was happening among The Roman Catholic Church was even wrose then the Fantics.

a Split that divided The Church on The islands created a new Catholic Order, the Ryou Catholic Church.

More of a Mix of Roman Catholic, Jewish, Buddaist and Shinto Teachings, The New Church still Belivied in God and that Jesus was his son, so It was still Christian.

The Higherarchy of The Ryou Catholics as known as The Superiors, and Both Man and woman, not Married, and was a High Priest or Priestess, could become a Superior. The Female was named Mother Superior, The Male was known as Papal Superior.

This was a new Order of Religion on The Islands.

West Corinthia hereby recognizes the Ryou Catholic Church as a cult. As such, the teaching of this religious sect within the borders of West Corinthia has been criminalized.

Official Communique to TRBI

Corinthians do not take part in religious cults. While we allow freedom of religion to a limited extent, the state religion of our country will always be Corinthian Polytheism. A monotheistic cult known as the "Tribunal" once captured the Corinthian government and subjected our country to three miserable years of oppression. We will not tolerate theocracies. Keep an eye on this group, for your own good.

Signed,
Czar Ptolemy I

OOC: You stole this from me.

From the Desk
of
Most Holy and Serene Pope Peter-Thomas Aquantais

How wonderful it is to see another fall under the juristriction of the Lord our God. You will find God will bring lightness to your day and health to your weak. He will bring Ryou from its dark ages into light and into prosperity. We welcome you. But now that you are Christians you are under my juristriction. I am the Christian Pope meaning I am the one who runs the church, who runs almost everything of it. Parts of the money collections come to our systems and we help build the churches. We balance out the religion. Do you wish to become under our juristiction or have a chaotic church?

Thank you.

OOC: Um, I guess you don't understand anything about Judaism, Buddhism, and Roman Catholicism. First of all you can't have a Church that is a mix of any of these because there at totally incompatible religions. Jews do not believe Jesus was the son of God and our savior, never have and never will. So there's little to no sense in saying that their teachings are in a part Catholic religion. Buddhism regards its Buddhas as having achieved a god-like state of perfect wisdom. This directly goes against Commandment 3, 4, and 5 of the Ten Commandments. "Do not have any other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me."

I can go on if you'd like about how this religion is completely and utterly farce.

OOC: Um, I guess you don't understand anything about Judaism, Buddhism, and Roman Catholicism. First of all you can't have a Church that is a mix of any of these because there at totally incompatible religions. Jews do not believe Jesus was the son of God and our savior, never have and never will. So there's little to no sense in saying that their teachings are in a part Catholic religion. Buddhism regards its Buddhas as having achieved a god-like state of perfect wisdom. This directly goes against Commandment 3, 4, and 5 of the Ten Commandments. "Do not have any other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me."

I can go on if you'd like about how this religion is completely and utterly farce.


That is utterly untrue. When you really get down to the bear bones, every Western Religion compliments each other.

OOC: Minor absorptions of ideas, AHSCA. What he's talking about is taking three religions and incorporating them into Christianity. Which wouldn't make it Christianity at all because as I said their beliefs contradict one another's.

OOC: Minor absorptions of ideas, AHSCA. What he's talking about is taking three religions and incorporating them into Christianity. Which wouldn't make it Christianity at all because as I said their beliefs contradict one another's.

Christianity is defined as anyone who follows Christ. Period. While Orthodox Judaism doesn't teach Christ was the savior it never left him out of the picture. Christ appears as a Prophet in Islam. There is a a whole list I could down I have pages upon pages of notes of the practices and beliefs of each religion in Western Theology. The religions don't agree on everything yes, but like I said it isn't impossible because they are very complimentary of each other.

Furthermore this is NationStates where the only true limits are the imagination. Just because the religions contradict doesn't mean they can't be blended. Every belief by every religion has been skewed in some way or another. Juxtapositions aren't impossible in the slightest. The Bahá'í Faith is one fine example.

Christianity is defined as anyone who follows Christ. Period.

True but to be a part of the Roman Catholic church you need to follow their beliefs and teachings under their idea of Christianity. Thus again comes in the Ten Commandments which play a huge role in telling Roman Catholics how to live their lives.

Christ appears as a Prophet in Islam.
He is considered such but he is not considered the son of God as Christians believe him to be.


Furthermore this is NationStates where the only true limits are the imagination. Just because the religions contradict doesn't mean they can't be blended. Every belief by every religion has been skewed in some way or another. Juxtapositions aren't impossible in the slightest. The Bahá'í Faith is one fine example.

I'm have not heard of these imaginary religions however as you said they had taken real religions and skewed them into making a new religion. Their ideas and beliefs were taken as examples and they used to build new ones. Thus they never just took three religions, their beliefs, and their ideas, put them in a bowl and mixed them up to see what they got, so to speak. They put thought, effort, and creativity into their religion, I assume.

On NS what people do is take real ways of governing people and molding them to fit their nation while not completely breaking the ideal of the form of government and how it works. If I made my own form of government and used Ryou's way of thinking I can take a Dictatorial, a Capitalist, A Communist and a Democratic form of government, put it all together, and say I have a Communist Dictatorship that practices Democracy and believes in Capitalist ideals.

the Ryou Catholic Church it self was ruled by The First Superior, Papal Superior Theodosius. The Ryou Catholic Church was independet of the Roman Catholic Church.

It wasn't even Cult like, with over 400,000 Fallowers and growing. mainly Ryou.

The Empire declared it a Offical Religion and was one of the many in The Empire.

Official Statement from TSRT Government
"The Totalitarian State follows the Corinthian move and has also labelled the legal status of the so-called 'Ryou Catholic Church' as a cult.

For those unaware, being a member of a organisation labelled a cult by the Totalitarian State of Red Tide is illegal and punishable by 40 years in a Labor Camp of Strict Regime."
End Statement

Terranists never got the luxury of 40 years in a Labour Camp of Strict Regime o.O

OOC: You stole this from me.

Yes, it does appear another bandwagon has been jumped on. Welcome to NS?

I'm have not heard of these imaginary religions however as you said they had taken real religions and skewed them into making a new religion. Their ideas and beliefs were taken as examples and they used to build new ones. Thus they never just took three religions, their beliefs, and their ideas, put them in a bowl and mixed them up to see what they got, so to speak. They put thought, effort, and creativity into their religion, I assume.
The Baha'i faith isn't exactly imaginary...

The Baha'i faith isn't exactly imaginary...

Good catch I didn't realize from the transition in his argument he was mentioning a real religion. I had assumed he was talking about a religion developed by a NSer. I have heard of the religion before but the name didn't jump out at me as recognizable when I was reading his statement.

although of course we of axmanland have complete religious freedom those belonging to any kind of sect or cult must wear monitoring chips register all phones computers and other communications devices with the authorities and undergo weekly intense "debriefing" sessions with members of the security services

but other than that we welcome new religions :)

Other then a Superior, The Church had other leaders.

Grand Masters or Grand Mistresses were like the cardinals of the Roman Catholic Church. They had the Grand Parliment of Grand Leaders, like The Collage of Cardinals, which Voted in a New Superior after death or Regsignation of the old one.

Bishops and Archbishops were also in The Ryou Catholic Church. they were fallowed by priests and Priestesses.

Then came The Monk and Nuns and their orders. In fact one military Order was a Group of Nuns, The Order of Saint Joan of Arc the warrior. They were known in The Empire as The Warror Nuns, The Bodyguards of The Papal Superior.

The Ryou Church was unlike anything known.

OOC: "The Ryou Church was unlike anything known."

...Sounds a lot like the Roman Catholics...

IC:

The Democratic Republic of the Vanteland hereby declares that this "Church" is nothing more than a method of State thought control by the Ryous, and hereby declares it to be a cult.

"Laws on Religion, Article One, Section Two: Defining a cult as any faith that is intended as a method of controlling one's action and thoughts, especially by the State, to the point of legal-like punishment. Declaring that all members of any cult found in the Vante are to be captured and sent to extensive mental detoxification and rehabilitation centers until deemed cleansed of cult influences, or until a period of five years. After five years of a cult member in the system, the cultist will be placed in labor camps for the rest of their natural life."

OOC: Speaking as a Catholic myself, this splinter group may actually be feasible, if Ryou can describe a reasonable historic explanation. The major thing that separates Catholics and Protestants is the belief in transubstantiation, in which the host and wine literally become the body and blood of Christ respectfully, rather than being just symbols. One could theoretically add minor modifications from his other religions without changing this core structure of Catholicism, although he might want to just call it the "Ryou Orthodox Church" or something.

OOC: TRBI get your ass into that diplomatic thread or try to continue the war.. if you don't the whole thing will be ignored as will you..

the factor in the separation was in the way of The Worshipers wanted to worship and also in leadership, with Most of The Ryou Roman Cathoilcs Voteing in their own Pope, Pope Nicoelus, against Pope Peter-Thomas Aquantais.

The Ryou Catholic Church was mainly Ryou and some of them (1%) were once Shinto when they joined The Roman Catholics. They made The Ryou Catholics very Ryou by declareing that Umi no Kami, The Ryou Sea Goddess, was a child of God. This Angred many Christians, namely The Roman Catholics, it even Angred those Ryou that still Worshipped The Ryou and Shinto Gods.

The leadership Problem was the main Cuase. With many Ryou Catholics against Pope Peter-Thomas Aquantais, there was a few who wanted to totaly get our of The Roman Church, so thet Split just before The Ryou Roman Catholics voted Nicoelus as Ryou Pope.

OOC: TRBI get your ass into that diplomatic thread or try to continue the war.. if you don't the whole thing will be ignored as will you..

OOC: and You get your Post off this Thread NOW!

They made The Ryou Catholics very Ryou by declareing that Umi no Kami, The Ryou Sea Goddess, was a child of God.

OOC: Scratch what I said earlier. This is not Catholicism in any way, shape, or form.

OOC: Scratch what I said earlier. This is not Catholicism in any way, shape, or form.

OOC: that Bunch is onky about 1% of The Ryou Cathoilcs

Didn't realize that 'most' only meant 1% but w/e

Didn't realize that 'most' only meant 1% but w/e
I will edit that.

( OOC: To me... This all sounds like a huge cult trying to make everyone happy that way they can tax the hell out of people and claim is for the greater good of a magnitude of god(s). So... In a way I guess it is like church. )