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Exetonia TRBI war OOC thread

Exetonia
11-04-2008, 21:20
Post here all information relevant to the Ic thread and all OOC posts. A map of the theatre(s) of war my end will be up asap (read: about 4 hours)

I'll also post my basic forces once i've sorted them into appropriate sections..

Happy RP'ing
Exetonia
11-04-2008, 21:26
Relevant threads leading to exetonias somewhat ill advised jump to war

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=553872 - Exetonias demands

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=553960 - First post here unless declared by TRBI in heindsight to be secret (which i could live with but its a lil to late for that now)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=553741 - Ignorance in this thread forcing the top thread to be opened.
Hegginator
11-04-2008, 21:28
Thanks Uriri I meant if Exetonia was attacked, oh well it doesn't matter now, to war we go! :D

I have decided to have around 0.5% of my population to be in my army, which is around 6.6 million. So if I minus the logistics from that which is around about say 50% I am left with 3.3 million men to fight with :). So 1.1 million for the airforce, 1.1 million for the Navy and 1.1 million for the Army. To add to this I have a budget of $22,414,306,200,000.00 (NS Economy) which should be enough to pay for the war.

Therefore I think I have enough money for
500 fighters
250 bombers
250 fight-bombers

100 Air Craft carriers with planes and escort fleets

And the necessary veichels and equipment to keep my Army opperating at the highest quality possible for my nation

From this point on I won't be online until tomorrow
Exetonia
12-04-2008, 01:15
Currently active Exetonian Naval units

1st Exetonian Naval task group - 'Exodus'

The Exetonian naval task group 'Exodus' is comprised of Task unit Bloodstone and Dread Squadron. The Exodus primary role is to serve as an interdiction task group to deal with possible threats to the homeland herein refered to as Exetonia Major. The task group contains enough equipment to deal with small threats to Exetonia major but requires additional support from the Exetonian airforce and Exetonian costal batteries when faced with larger forces. Listed below are the two sections that make up 'Exodus'. This task group is currently linked with task groups interdiction and Decadance to form Task Force 'Alpha' (see below)

Task Unit Bloodstone
2 x Arleigh Burke class DDG
4 x Halifax Class FFG

Dread Squadron
2 x Nimitz class CVN's
(90 x F-14D Tomcats)
(6 x Seaking Helicopters)
1 x Invinvible class CVL
(8 x FA2 Seaharrier)
(2 x Seaking Helicopters)
1 x Triconderoga Class CG

2nd and 3rd Exetonian Naval task groups 'Pride' and 'Governance' are comprised of the same vessels as 'Exodus' and protect the second and third precincts respectively. They are attached to Task forces 'Beta' and 'Cappa' respectively (see below)

4th Naval task group - Interdiction

The Exetonian Naval task group 'interdiction' is comprised of Task units 'Honor' and 'Corpus' These task units are comprised of the same vessels as Task unit Bloodstone. The task group itself is attached with the 5th Naval task group 'Decadence' (comprised of the same vessels as 'Interdiction') to create Task Force 'Alpha'

The 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th task groups (which are unnamed) follow the same pattern as Task groups Interdiction and Decadence. The 6th and 7th are attached to Task group Pride to make Task Force Beta whilst the 8th and 9th are attached to Task group Governance to make Task Force Cappa.

[b]Task Force Alpha:
Task Group Exodus
Task Group Interdiction
Task Group Decadence

Task Force Beta
Task Group Pride
Exetonian 6th Task Group
Exetonian 7th Task Group

Task Force Cappa
Task Group Governance
Exetonian 8th Task Group
Exetonian 9th Task Group

These task forces are on constant alert status and are currently under orders to maintain full alert status and await further instructions.
Exetonia
12-04-2008, 02:53
Currently avaliable Exetonia Airforce units


EAF Exeter City Airbase

EAF Exeter city is home to the EAF 'Guardians' wing. The 'Guardians' wing role is to intercept incoming threats to Exetonia be they enemy bomber or fighter aircraft. They are often used to provide close support to Exetonian Navy within exetonian territorial waters and sometimes slightly beyond. The 'Guardians' Wing is comprised of 3 squadrons of F117A Nighthawk stealth fighters. Each squadron is broken down into 4 Flights of 25 aircraft each. This means that the 'Guardians wing' contains 300 F117A Knighthawks.

Also located at EAF Exeter City is the 'damnation' squadron. This squadron contains 4 flights of 25 B-52 Stratofortress bombers. There primary role is carpet bombing of tactical ground targets ahead of any major military action abroad but also to bomb any enemy position that may have arisen on home soil.

Guardians Wing
Alpha squadron
Flight 1
Flight 2
Flight 3
Flight 4
Beta squadron
Flight 1
Flight 2
Flight 3
Flight 4
Delta Squadron
Flight 1
Flight 2
Flight 3
Flight 4

Total: 300 F117A Knighthawk stealth fighters

Damnation squadron
Flight 1
Flight 2
Flight 3
Flight 4

Total: 100 B-52 'Stratofortress' Bombers
Hamilay
12-04-2008, 03:00
Uh, your fleet of interceptors consists of an aircraft expensive and outdated in real life, not to mention NS. More importantly, though, it only carries bombs.
Exetonia
12-04-2008, 03:07
Uh, your fleet of interceptors consists of an aircraft expensive and outdated in real life, not to mention NS. More importantly, though, it only carries bombs.

God damn it, i should have checked that.. If it can't fight why the hell is it called a fighter.. its just a fedging bomber... Aww damn it, i need to rethink my plans then a little bit (oops)
Exetonia
12-04-2008, 03:27
Sorted, i'll pull those 300 F-117A's as rusted scrap and replace them with F-15E's .. plenty of air to air capability there. Just means I have to re-write my IC post
Exetonia
12-04-2008, 03:55
TRBI Don't worry, i'm not ignorring your actions, i just want more information from you. What have you been up to in the 7 hours since declaration, how much of your military assets are ready for deployment, how long did it take. Are those sattelites geosychronus or on a standard orbital path spending maybe only a few hours over Exetonia at a time? How wide a scan area do they have, how skilled are the operatives.

We'll also need to discuss in here at some point maps (my one of the main continent is nearly ready to post showing major cities and major instalations you'll pick up by sattelite) and what can and cant be seen from orbit..

How about your submarines to blockade my supply routes.. how long until the Submarines gewt to my waters.. will i be able to get my first convoys out in time?
The Ryou Black Islands
12-04-2008, 04:02
Ok
The Ryou Black Islands
12-04-2008, 04:12
Just to let Exetonia know, The NS Time defanition has Changed, It is now any Time you want, as long as you want.

Things Changed while you was off Exetonia.
Exetonia
12-04-2008, 04:19
I dont care TRBI, in a freeform war rp, it is pertinent to have a timeline of events.. At the moment several hours can pass between posts. if you wish to move us on by 1, 2, 6, 12 hours then let us know. At this point in time i will make it clear [n]NO[/b] proper war rp has ever gone huge leaps and bounds! Its just not logical or pertinent to follow any timeline in a war rp, i have clearly defined how its working.. follow it or expect a big can of whoopass from several people.. you dont just advance a war a whole week when one nation has already said it could take up to 7 days to become fully operational..

Remember, I am the antagonist her, the agressor, were moving on my timeline.. if you jump forward and commit the first actual act of war then our roes change very quickly and you end up deep in the shit ;)
The Ryou Black Islands
12-04-2008, 04:22
By The way, what are the names of your two Islands?
Exetonia
12-04-2008, 04:30
Exetonia Secondus and hrmm, lemme just go get the second..
The Ryou Black Islands
12-04-2008, 04:34
Exetonia Secondus and hrmm, lemme just go get the second..

Ok
Exetonia
12-04-2008, 04:36
For the sake of this rp, the third Isle (read: precinct) is called Exetonia minor.. its a big island.. very big, (much like the Exetonian continent)
The Ryou Black Islands
12-04-2008, 04:42
For the sake of this rp, the third Isle (read: precinct) is called Exetonia minor.. its a big island.. very big, (much like the Exetonian continent)

Ok,

Just to let you know, I am sending a ir attack now, long with a Invasion Fleet, But I will give you time to prepare, I can wait for a Defense.
Exetonia
12-04-2008, 04:46
your air attack I might just be ready for on the Islands (I am prepared for on the main land.. barely).. the fleet is going to take a very long time to get to my waters.. maybe two days (giving me a chance to get at least maybe 20% of navy ready... (that includes what is already listed as deployed, i'll note specifically what that is in here)

DO NOT have your fleet magically appear at my build up area..

as a side note Congratulations, i am no longer the agressor in this conflict
Exetonia
12-04-2008, 05:15
I'll tell you what im going to do, after ive posted the active forces in this thread, im going to respond to the incoming fighters/bombers.. im going to suffer 100% casualties from my air ready units.

However, i refuse to aknowledge an invasion is imminent when you have shown no preparation of your ground forces from peacetime readyness to all out war.. that should take a little while..

Active forces:

Exetonia Secondus - Carrier task group

Consists of 8x Nimitz class, 4 x Invincible class in same configurations of carriers above.

Exetonia minor - 2 Flights of F-15 E's.. total air support avaliable = not much!
The Ryou Black Islands
12-04-2008, 05:28
the List of the 18th Fleet.

One Kraken Class Superdreadnought (The RINS Dragon's Katana)
20 Ayanami Class Destroyers
10 Orca Class battleships
10 Sharktooth class Battleships
20 Sea Gull Class Anti-aircraft Frigates.
20 Tiger Shark Class Anti-Submarine Destroyer.
30 Dead Moon Class Battlecruisers
20 Nagao Class Light Cruisers
40 Stingray Class Caravel (a Type of Corvette)
3 Camelopardalis Class Air Craft Carriers
4 Dorado Class Escourt Carriers
3 Carina Class Helicopter Carriers
40 Dragonfish Class Submarines.
many types of Troop Carriers and Surport Ships

Note: Ignore my Military Factbook, I have not updated it yet.

Imperial Expolation Force (IEF)

600,000 Imperial Army Infantry Troops
3,000 Amazon Guard
19,000 Imperial Marines
80,000 Engineers
100,000 Logistical Troops
400 BTR-152 Armored Transporters
300 Type 85-II Main Battle Tanks
300 Type 63 Light Amphibious Tanks
2,000 Heavy Trucks
500 9P148 ATGM Launcher Vehicles
200 YW 531A APCs
100 AMX-10RC Armored Reconnaissance Vehicles
300 Ferret Light Scout Cars
200 2S3 152mm Self-Propelled Gun-Howitzers
100 M106 Mortar Carriers
400 M728 Combat Engineer Vehicles
500 TNO108 180mm Field Guns
20,000 Mortarmen.
2,000 M992 Ammunition Carriers

All Vehicles and Artillery Pieces with their Crews.
The Ryou Black Islands
12-04-2008, 05:31
I'll tell you what im going to do, after ive posted the active forces in this thread, im going to respond to the incoming fighters/bombers.. im going to suffer 100% casualties from my air ready units.

However, i refuse to aknowledge an invasion is imminent when you have shown no preparation of your ground forces from peacetime readyness to all out war.. that should take a little while..

Active forces:

Exetonia Secondus - Carrier task group

Consists of 8x Nimitz class, 4 x Invincible class in same configurations of carriers above.

Exetonia minor - 2 Flights of F-15 E's.. total air support avaliable = not much!

My Military was already ready for war when Zanski started up something, I think you heard of him before.
Exetonia
12-04-2008, 05:35
Especially with a force of that size... My navy is going to be absolutly decimated by your fleet, I can tell you that now... Damn stevid for initially resupplying you!

your grounf forces however are going to encounter severe and i mean severe resistance if I can get my military on the Island up to scratch.. this is a 1700km squared land mass by the way so you will (when I have the map) have a lot of choices as to where to land... Should be an interesting fight.
Ezaltia
12-04-2008, 05:38
Ryou, are you using Silver Sky's Kraken, DMG's Kraken, or one of your own design?
Exetonia
12-04-2008, 05:44
My Military was already ready for war when Zanski started up something, I think you heard of him before.

You dont understand, prepping a military expiditonary force of that magnitude would take a minimum of weeks.. probably months..

i knew long before (read: 6months) the second gulf war that the US and the UK were gong into iraq.. why? Living in cornwall i had the privilidge of watching ships set sail out towards the Atlantic, constant combat training flights day in day out, increased activity at the Territorial army and at the RNAS near where I live.

Then there was of course the fact that a few of my friends were recalled from leave ;)

To deploy ion your own borders wouldnt take long.. but just look at how long its taking me to get all my forces mobile, in a rush for what was supposed to be an invasion and is now a defence...

It takes a long time and a force that size is a logistical knightmare to arrange!
The Ryou Black Islands
12-04-2008, 05:47
Ryou, are you using Silver Sky's Kraken, DMG's Kraken, or one of your own design?

DMG;s one, Bought one from his Storefront.
The Ryou Black Islands
12-04-2008, 05:56
Especially with a force of that size... My navy is going to be absolutly decimated by your fleet, I can tell you that now... Damn stevid for initially resupplying you!

your grounf forces however are going to encounter severe and i mean severe resistance if I can get my military on the Island up to scratch.. this is a 1700km squared land mass by the way so you will (when I have the map) have a lot of choices as to where to land... Should be an interesting fight.

Well, It will take Four RL Days to get to your Island (If we were doing NS time, It would be 2 RL days, still Very long) so you might till have time to get some for your Ground Forces and Place Anti-Aircraft Defenses.

And when Going though The Xanadou Sea, with Storms starting up at This Time of Year, It could take 5 to 8 days before my Fleet comes to your Island.
Exetonia
12-04-2008, 05:59
Well, It will take Four RL Days to get to your Island (If we were doing NS time, It would be 2 RL days, still Very long) so you might till have time to get some for your Ground Forces and Place Anti-Aircraft Defenses.

And when Going though The Xanadou Sea, with Storms starting up at This Time of Year, It could tke 5 to 8 days before my Fleet comes to your Island.

Thankyou.. i'll settle wth that if you retcon that your expiditonary force, due to past hostilities is aways kept at combat readyness asin.. give the oirder and were fully mobile with 36 hours...

Now, you have a fighter/bmber approach post to setup.. my guys are skilled but outnumbered by that much well.. its gonna be devestating to my air support in that area.

I already have AA defence.. fixed missile and flak defences but, nothing capable of defeating 4 squadrons..
New Chalcedon
12-04-2008, 06:30
I find it very interesting that TRBI is going to move close to three quarters of a million people across over a thousand miles of ocean in just four days, from scratch.

Given that Operation:Desert Storm took months to move far fewer people, I think that the time frame is a little low. You won't take months (the USA wasn't in a "total war" state, and you are), but I'd say at least two weeks to get that many people moving.
Ezaltia
12-04-2008, 06:34
Taking my argument here....

I'm just saying that it's simply unreasonable to carry out a full-blown war in real time. In order for it to work, you have to be constantly glued to your computer, so if an attack occurs at 0354 hours, you're there at 3:54 AM to reply, and be able to type a response within seconds so the next move can be made. Not to mention the fact that Ryou and you are likely in different time zones, making coordinating even harder.

In short, it's sheer necessity to use fluid time. A gunfight and a round-trip bombing raid, while taking 20 seconds and 20 hours respectively, can both be described in a few hundred words. You HAVE to speed up and slow down the RP when necessary.
New Chalcedon
12-04-2008, 06:48
I accept this idea. But it surely is possible to preface a post with "n days later...", isn't it? This would get rid of the "month-long circle-jerk" problem, and place a meaningful timeline in the thread.
DaWoad
12-04-2008, 07:09
Heres the orbat for my fleets and before ne1 says anything Yes my Navy is big but its essentially all iv got for offensive might. three fleets of which third fleet is the invasion fleet.
Btw. I like the Idea of some kind of time control but if ur gonna do it Exetonia your gonna have to be able to mod and remove others posts. Lastly These fleets were already heading back to the ASD as a war ended just as third fleet arrived on scene so their well supplied and were nearby anyway.
Second Fleet Arriving in Five Days
Three Haven class carriers
Six Shield class missile defense and EW ships
Ten Sword class Heavy Battle cruisers
Twenty Strike class missile attack boats
Seven Cloak class SSNs
Twenty Beaver class military transports
Ten Kilaue class Resupply ships
Fifty Liberty Class All purpose Transports

Naval Air wings in theater
Air wing one aboard ASDS Adventure
5X Eagle class AWACS
25X F-43A Hawk-1 Strike fighters
25X F-43B Hawk-3 Hypersonic interceptors
10X F-43C Hawk-2 STOVL Close support aircraft
5X Hercules medium range air-air refueling planes
10X MH-72 Osprey ASW Helicopter

Air wing Two aboard ASDS Nimitz
5X Eagle class AWACS
25X F-43A Hawk-1 Strike fighters
25X F-43B Hawk-3 Hypersonic interceptors
10X F-43C Hawk-2 STOVL Close Support Aircraft
5X B-5A Owl-1 Medium Range Stealth Bomber
10X MH-72 Osprey ASW Helicopter

Air Wing Three aboard ASDS Owen Hawk
5X Eagle class AWACS
25X F-43A Hawk-1 Strike fighters
25X F-43B Hawk-3 Hypersonic interceptors
10X F-43C Hawk-2 STOVL Close support aircraft
5X Penguin
10X MH-75 Falcon Class Attack Helicopter

2nd Regiment Marine Expeditionary Unit
50 T-72C Shark Class Amphibious MBTs
100 T-75A Wolf Class Armored Attack Vehicles
100 (covert weapon system no id-tag found) ?????
2 10 Marine Spec ops teams and material
16 Light Combat Squads (160 marines)
4 Heavy Combat Squads (40 marines)
2 Indirect Fire Teams (14 marines)

3nd Regiment Marine Expeditionary Unit
75 T-72C Shark Class Amphibious MBTs
150 T-75A Wolf Class Armored Attack Vehicles
2 10 Marine Spec ops teams and material
16 Light Combat Squads (160 marines)
4 Heavy Combat Squads (40 marines)
2 Indirect Fire Teams (14 marines)

2nd Battalion Combat Engineers
250-Engineers armed with Small Arms
50- Armored Bulldozers


Third Fleet held in Reserve Two Days Away (arrive in position in 5 Days)
Four Indomitable class Super-carriers
Twelve Shield class missile defense and EW ships
Two Oblivion class Dreadnoughts
Ten Sword class Heavy Battle cruisers
Five Pike Class Destroyers
Twenty Strike class missile attack boats
Ten Cloak class SSNs
Thirty Beaver class military transports
Ten Digger class Engineer Transports
Fifty Kilaue class Resupply ships

Naval Air wings in theater
Air wing one aboard ASDS Nimitz
7X Eagle class AWACS
40X F-43A Hawk-1 Strike fighters
40X F-43B Hawk-3 Hypersonic interceptors
20X F-43C Hawk-2 STOVL Close support aircraft
10X Hercules medium range air-air refueling planes
10X MH-72 Osprey ASW Helicopter

Air wing Two aboard ASDS Knight
7X Eagle class AWACS
40X F-43A Hawk-1 Strike fighters
40X F-43B Hawk-3 Hypersonic interceptors
20X F-43C Hawk-2 STOVL Close support aircraft
10X B-5B Owl-2 Long Range Stealth Bomber
10X MH-72 Osprey ASW Helicopter

Air wing Three aboard ASDS Rain
7X Eagle class AWACS
40X F-43A Hawk-1 Strike fighters
40X F-43B Hawk-3 Hypersonic interceptors
20X F-43C Hawk-2 STOVL Close support aircraft
20X Penguin Class Troop Transport Helicopters
10X MH-72 Osprey ASW Helicopter

Air wing Four aboard ASDS Victory
7X Eagle class AWACS
40X F-43A Hawk-1 Strike fighters
40X F-43B Hawk-3 Hypersonic interceptors
20X F-43C Hawk-2 STOVL Close support aircraft
20X MH-75 Falcon Class Attack Helicopter
10X MH-72 Osprey ASW Helicopter

4th Regiment Heavy Armored Marine Invasion Unit
275 T-72C Shark Class Amphibious MBTs
350 T-75A Wolf Class Armored Attack Vehicles
5 10 Marine Spec ops teams and material
48 Light Combat Squads (480 marines)
12 Heavy Combat Squads (120 marines)
6 Indirect Fire Teams (42 marines)

1st Regiment Combat Engineers
500 engineers
50 tanks
50 Armored Bulldozers
Material

Hospital Ships
15- Relief Class hospital ships
Hegginator
12-04-2008, 09:16
Have we got a map yet?
The Ryou Black Islands
12-04-2008, 13:38
Taking my argument here....

I'm just saying that it's simply unreasonable to carry out a full-blown war in real time. In order for it to work, you have to be constantly glued to your computer, so if an attack occurs at 0354 hours, you're there at 3:54 AM to reply, and be able to type a response within seconds so the next move can be made. Not to mention the fact that Ryou and you are likely in different time zones, making coordinating even harder.

In short, it's sheer necessity to use fluid time. A gunfight and a round-trip bombing raid, while taking 20 seconds and 20 hours respectively, can both be described in a few hundred words. You HAVE to speed up and slow down the RP when necessary.

In fact, for once, Ezaltia, you make sence. I am in a Different Time zone, Central Time here in Missouri.
Independent Hitmen
12-04-2008, 14:18
Sorry to poke my nose in here, both with the post and this but there were a few...issues I noticed when browsing through.


600,000 Imperial Army Infantry Troops
3,000 Amazon Guard
19,000 Imperial Marines
80,000 Engineers
1,000 Logistical Troops
400 BTR-152 Armored Transporters
300 Type 85-II Main Battle Tanks
300 Type 63 Light Amphibious Tanks
2,000 Heavy Trucks
500 9P148 ATGM Launcher Vehicles
200 YW 531A APCs
100 AMX-10RC Armored Reconnaissance Vehicles
300 Ferret Light Scout Cars
200 2S3 152mm Self-Propelled Gun-Howitzers
100 M106 Mortar Carriers
400 M728 Combat Engineer Vehicles
500 TNO108 180mm Field Guns
20,000 Mortarmen
2,000 M992 Ammunition Carriers


As you guys seem to be going for realism I was concerned that 600,000 odd troops are being supplied by only 1,000 logistics guys. Im assuming that your missing two 0's from that number? Unless the engineers are logistics guys themselves and not combat engineers, in which case Kudos. The logistics of moving these troops to Exetonia also requires troops ships and a huge string of supply ships bringing in food, ammo etc which you don't seem to have, unless again they are in the support ships of your fleet.


On the topic of time, your both adults (im assuming) and in the Passion Play thread everybody respected the fact that NS is a game and that your trying to get enjoyment from it rather than just here to win. *Shrugs* But its your call.

Thats my two cents, unless you take up my offer of a negotiation. Good day!
The Ryou Black Islands
12-04-2008, 14:43
Sorry to poke my nose in here, both with the post and this but there were a few...issues I noticed when browsing through.



As you guys seem to be going for realism I was concerned that 600,000 odd troops are being supplied by only 1,000 logistics guys. Im assuming that your missing two 0's from that number? Unless the engineers are logistics guys themselves and not combat engineers, in which case Kudos. The logistics of moving these troops to Exetonia also requires troops ships and a huge string of supply ships bringing in food, ammo etc which you don't seem to have, unless again they are in the support ships of your fleet.


On the topic of time, your both adults (im assuming) and in the Passion Play thread everybody respected the fact that NS is a game and that your trying to get enjoyment from it rather than just here to win. *Shrugs* But its your call.

Thats my two cents, unless you take up my offer of a negotiation. Good day!

I was sleepy when I posted it. I will edit it.
Exetonia
12-04-2008, 15:24
Im not against fluid time time its just that tRBi has to understand im going through the motions of everything and thus.. jumoping forward is not fair.,.

IMPORTANT NOTICE

Many of you are still considering Exetonia as the Agressor, this is no longer the case with TRBI launching the first strike against Exetonia.. I am not the agressor anymore!
New Chalcedon
12-04-2008, 16:17
You did, however, start it. As I noted in my IC post on the war thread, you have both behaved badly.
Exetonia
12-04-2008, 16:26
You did, however, start it. As I noted in my IC post on the war thread, you have both behaved badly.

If by start you mean declared then yes but at the dclaration.. there was no agressor/defender.. i looked to be the agressive side because i made the declaration and now, a suposedly peacefull nation, is launching an attack.. not just to cripple Exetonia minor but to actually invade her..

Wether I started it or not, a lot of nations pledged their support to TRBI because it was the defender, what will they do now the shoe is on the other foot?
Akimonad
12-04-2008, 16:27
I have a serious urge to nuke both sides and get it over with. But I won't. This is marginally amusing.
Exetonia
12-04-2008, 16:37
I have a serious urge to nuke both sides and get it over with. But I won't. This is marginally amusing.

You'd ne nuked yourself you did that.. Exetonian MAD [policy.. you nuke us, we fire everything we've got at you

(some 40 or so 20 megaton devices, 60 10 megaton devices, 150 5 megaton devices, and 220 1 megaton devices.. just a shame my subs aren't active aswell)

Either that or you'd blatently be ignored.. what the hell was the point in you even posting..

Added to my MAD strike Stevid would turn you to glass for blasting TRBI into glass!
Kulikovia
12-04-2008, 16:51
Looks like I'll end up sucked into this vaccum. Oh well, I haven't been in a good war in a long time.
Exetonia
12-04-2008, 16:54
The way things are going this isn't going to be a 'good' war as TRBI posts so little information about how things are getting where, why and so forth.. i might give up with any detail soon and just withdar from minor, call the whole thing a write off and garner a ceasation of hostilities from TRBI which might include handing over Exetonia minor to TRBI it might not...

For a nation thats supposedly peaceful and was declared against.. they are being suprisingly agressive!
Kulikovia
12-04-2008, 16:56
I can lend you 80's action movie parody Dutch Manstrong to wage a one-man war against your enemies.
Akimonad
12-04-2008, 18:08
You'd ne nuked yourself you did that.. Exetonian MAD [policy.. you nuke us, we fire everything we've got at you

(some 40 or so 20 megaton devices, 60 10 megaton devices, 150 5 megaton devices, and 220 1 megaton devices.. just a shame my subs aren't active aswell)

That's 2,370 megatons... I know of nations that have more than that in a portion of their bomber force which is an even smaller portion of their total nuclear deterrent.

That said, I would be sure to destroy your ability to retaliate.

Added to my MAD strike Stevid would turn you to glass for blasting TRBI into glass!

Meh. Also, you don't need to constantly bold TRBI, our eyes work fine.
The Ryou Black Islands
12-04-2008, 18:27
I have a serious urge to nuke both sides and get it over with. But I won't. This is marginally amusing.

Just a warning, any Nuclear Attack by you will be the cause of me to launch every Nuclear weapon againsy your territories, I will leave your homeland for Stevid to finish off.........Along with your 'Empire'
Hegginator
12-04-2008, 18:43
Is it me or am I being ignored:( , If you need any help Exetonia I will gladly supply you with the troops and resources you need.:D
Akimonad
12-04-2008, 18:50
HAW HAW HAW.

Good one, Ryou.
The Ryou Black Islands
12-04-2008, 19:12
HAW HAW HAW.

Good one, Ryou.

You do forget at times, let me enlighten you AGAIN.

the Ryous have Nuclear weapons, or did you Ignore the Thread with My Nuclear tests? Prephas I should go to war against your Nation just to show you I have Nuclear Weapons?

I can Launch a Counter-Strike on you, and you should be scared.
Akimonad
12-04-2008, 19:32
You do forget at times, let me enlighten you AGAIN.

Erm... what?

The Ryous have nuclear weapons, or did you ignore the thread with my nuclear tests? Perhaps I should go to war against your nation just to show you I have nuclear weapons?

I would be delighted to see you try.

I can launch a counter-strike on you, and you should be scared.

I'm not. So sorry.

Gross spelling and grammatical errors corrected for my own sanity.
Scandavian States
12-04-2008, 19:35
You do forget at times, let me enlighten you AGAIN.

the Ryous have Nuclear weapons, or did you Ignore the Thread with My Nuclear tests? Prephas I should go to war against your Nation just to show you I have Nuclear Weapons?

I can Launch a Counter-Strike on you, and you should be scared.


And allow me to enlighten you. Aki is in Haven. Haven is a region that is 50,000km across and roughly half that north-south. Even the best ICBMs don't have that kind of cross range, so your SSBNs would have to actually enter Haven for that to work. Except, a problem, Haven is so insanely defended that even if you did manage to slip an SSBN in to launch missiles, the flight profile of the missile and MIRV count would give you away (not to mention that if your missiles managed to make it passed the combined BMD defenses of Haven, the nuclear materials signature generated by the fallout would give you away.) So, every nation in Haven would launch a joint fleet the likes of which NS has never seen just for the express purpose of glassing you into oblivion and making sure you never, ever come back.

If anybody should be scared, it's you.
Imperial isa
12-04-2008, 19:40
You do forget at times, let me enlighten you AGAIN.

the Ryous have Nuclear weapons, or did you Ignore the Thread with My Nuclear tests? Prephas I should go to war against your Nation just to show you I have Nuclear Weapons?

I can Launch a Counter-Strike on you, and you should be scared.

whoop de do bu
your Counter-Strike in return gets more Counter-Strikes Ten Fold back on you
DaWoad
12-04-2008, 21:15
yes nuclear war is bad as is MAD . . . .if any nukes get launched then this thread will devolve into mass nuclear suicide. .. . so how bout a change of topic
Exetonia
13-04-2008, 00:28
The Roual Code, you appear to have your wires severley crossed. There are no forces of mine anywhere near the Black isles and infact im no longer the agressor..

Lets see, 2 days have passed so I need to post about that but.. the nearest enemy positions being 40 miles away.. what the fuck are you talking about..

I'm on the defensive here...
DaWoad
13-04-2008, 02:03
the List of the 18th Fleet.

One Kraken Class Superdreadnought (The RINS Dragon's Katana)
20 Ayanami Class Destroyers
10 Orca Class battleships
10 Sharktooth class Battleships
20 Sea Gull Class Anti-aircraft Frigates.
20 Tiger Shark Class Anti-Submarine Destroyer.
30 Dead Moon Class Battlecruisers
20 Nagao Class Light Cruisers
40 Stingray Class Caravel (a Type of Corvette)
3 Camelopardalis Class Air Craft Carriers
4 Dorado Class Escourt Carriers
3 Carina Class Helicopter Carriers
40 Dragonfish Class Submarines.
many types of Troop Carriers and Surport Ships

Note: Ignore my Military Factbook, I have not updated it yet.

Imperial Expolation Force (IEF)

600,000 Imperial Army Infantry Troops
3,000 Amazon Guard
19,000 Imperial Marines
80,000 Engineers
100,000 Logistical Troops
400 BTR-152 Armored Transporters
300 Type 85-II Main Battle Tanks
300 Type 63 Light Amphibious Tanks
2,000 Heavy Trucks
500 9P148 ATGM Launcher Vehicles
200 YW 531A APCs
100 AMX-10RC Armored Reconnaissance Vehicles
300 Ferret Light Scout Cars
200 2S3 152mm Self-Propelled Gun-Howitzers
100 M106 Mortar Carriers
400 M728 Combat Engineer Vehicles
500 TNO108 180mm Field Guns
20,000 Mortarmen.
2,000 M992 Ammunition Carriers

All Vehicles and Artillery Pieces with their Crews.

can you give an ORBAT for your fighters aboard the carriers
Exetonia
13-04-2008, 04:13
TRBI, as you can see i'm willing to sit down at a table and discuss a peacfull sollution to this war that I started.

Im doing a very rare thing on Nationstates.. Im letting you post exactly what you did the the 3 major army barraks, 5 airfields, 4 naval ports and various other military targets aswell as possibly a few civilian targets by accident...

Ive already stated that defence in minor has been crippled i just want to find out how many sorties you got in the the few (2-3) days that have passed.
Exetonia
13-04-2008, 15:38
The royal Code.. Im trying to sit down to talks with TRBI.. peacekeepers are moving into my territorial waters around Minor and will attack anythng that fires upon me or them.. be careful here
The Ryou Black Islands
13-04-2008, 18:05
The royal Code.. Im trying to sit down to talks with TRBI.. peacekeepers are moving into my territorial waters around Minor and will attack anythng that fires upon me or them.. be careful here

Exetonia: you are going to get a TG soon.
The Royal Code
13-04-2008, 19:11
Extonia, i thought i had read that you were steaming your forces towards his islands.

If this party's over, then i'm out. I'll just go ahead and fire the ignore cannon at the posts i made.

*sigh* I never get to use my military anymore =(
DaWoad
13-04-2008, 20:46
Extonia, i thought i had read that you were steaming your forces towards his islands.

If this party's over, then i'm out. I'll just go ahead and fire the ignore cannon at the posts i made.

*sigh* I never get to use my military anymore =(

heheheheh you really wanna mix it up im sure ezaltia and I would be more than happy lol and ya my millitary is somewhat underused too
Independent Hitmen
14-04-2008, 01:42
OOC: An Orbat for my proposed peacekeeping forces.

IH 15th Fleet
1x New England Class Fleet Aircraft Carrier (120 F-30 Shinden II’s, 120 F/A-18-J’s, 25 C-2 CIC Aircraft, 24 C-2 Tanker Aircraft, 30 F-22S Sea Raptors)
2x Periocles II Class Fleet Attack Carriers (80 F-30 Shinden II’s, 80 F/A-18-J’s, 18 E-2CI Hawkeyes)
3x Isomer Class Attack Carriers (66 F-30 Shinden II’s, 66 F/A-18-J’s, 12 C-2 CIC Aircraft, 8 C-2 Tankers) each
9x Candlelight Class Escort Carrier (28 F-30 Shinden II’s, 28 F/A-18J’s, 7 E-2CI Hawkeye’s, 5 E/A-18 Prowlers)
2x Sea Lion Class Anti-Submarine Carrier (15 S-3 Viking ASW Aircraft, 38 KH-49 ASW Helicopters)
18x Hunter Class Missile Cruisers (+1 with resupply convoy)
42x Shade Class Destroyers (+2 with resupply convoy)
48x Worker Class Frigates (+5 with resupply convoy)
21x Los Angeles 688I Class Attack Submarines
8x Vanguard II Class Attack Submarines
14x Excess Supply ships (with formations, 35 en route)
4x Fuel Fleet Oilers (with formations, 6 en route)


Typical Infantry Division

1x Mechanized Infantry Brigade [2 Battalions of Mechanized Infantry, 1 Battalion Medium Tanks, 1 HQ Company]
2x Infantry Brigade (Mechanized) [3 Battalions of Mechanized Infantry, 1 HQ Company]
1x Logistical support brigade (4459th Logistics Brigade)[3 Logistics Battalions]
1x Artillery Regiment [2 Heavy Art Batteries, 2 Medium Art Batteries, 1 Heavy Mortar Battery]
1x Military Police Company
1x Combat Engineers Battalion [3 Companies, HQ Platoon]
1x Headquarters Battalion [1 HQ Company, 2 Security Companies]
Exetonia
14-04-2008, 02:07
Im tossing around the idea of Exetonia getting to the table and requesting an appology from TRBI for their spin doctoring of my words and an official declaration to the international community expolaining that they lied.

In return, Exetonia will cover the costs of the bombing runs into Exetonia minor, agree not to go anywhere near TRBI or member colonies of the aformentioned for 10 years and to issue an official appology to the TRBI leadership for leaving them with no recourse other than to take the action they took thus tryng to fool the international community into thinking TRBI was ying about its peacefull intent. - That would be a poublic appology.

Exetonia would also agree to pay 75% of the costs of the peacekeeping forces with TRBI paying 15% and the further 10 covered by the nations whos navies/militaries are doing the peacekeeping.
Ezaltia
14-04-2008, 03:39
Are there actually Ryou troops in Exetonia Minor?
The Ryou Black Islands
14-04-2008, 04:23
Well, one thing is that I didn't RP my planes attacking. Exetonia did that him self, with My Planes.
Exetonia
14-04-2008, 04:27
Well, one thing is that I didn't RP my planes attacking. Exetonia did that him self, with My Planes.

you were to fucking busy with your stupid back and forth 1 line rp of epic stupidity! (and spam).. I TOLD YOU TO POST WHAT YOUR PLANES TARGETED, I TOLD YOU WHAT HAPPENED - COMPLETE DEVESTATION
Flaming Souls
14-04-2008, 04:29
Honestly, due to the amount of damage Exetonia inflicted on himself using the planes that you had already stated were on the way...I doubt there is much in the way of bitching you can really do, Ryou.
Amazonian Beasts
14-04-2008, 04:31
Yo, chill out peeps. You gonna screw this RP over if you make it an OOC bitchfest.

Why don't we screw OOC for a while and just stick to IC, mmk?
Exetonia
14-04-2008, 04:57
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=554210

Need 1 mediator and TRBI in here
Flaming Souls
14-04-2008, 04:58
Am I to play a role of mediator then?
Exetonia
14-04-2008, 04:59
If you wish, dont post until TRBI has posted his intentions though :)
Flaming Souls
14-04-2008, 05:01
I can post my presence at least. Just to make sure it doesn't go unnoticed. Also, if you happen to have MSN, AIM, or Yahoo let me know.
Exetonia
14-04-2008, 05:03
Well be my guest and go ahead :)
Flaming Souls
14-04-2008, 05:04
Shall I assume you Ok'd my IC request to chopper in Diplomats and they are there with your folks now?
Exetonia
14-04-2008, 05:09
The talks will have to happen on neutral ground but yes, we can assume that
Independent Hitmen
14-04-2008, 12:00
OOC: and now we have aircraft carriers that can carry 320 aircraft. do u have specs for these things. cause they'd have to be huge and prolly couldnt move very fast at all . . . .plus how are u handling all that hydraulic stress etc. rough seas would be a nightmare

Yes we do. In fact we have had them since before you joined NS. The specs can be found on my reference thread, which you can find by typing 'Independent Hitmen' into the advanced search facility and then selecting threads started by that user before pressing search.

As a point of general interest they are not actually that big, they are taller than most conventional carriers and incorporate two hangar decks one below the other. Highly automated machinery also decreases the crew space requirements too.

Questers had carriers that could hold over 500 aircraft and I believe several other nations did as well, whether or not they still produce them I don't know. I personally purchased a few of the Questerian carriers, he used the name Illustrious Class for them I believe.

On the technical point I have no idea how the vessel would be handling hydraulic stress. The designs were basically just made up and took influence from other carriers in NS and real life vessels. I'm not a ship designer and have no pretensions to be, I was just looking for a unique ship in this world of clones and licensed production. I am pretty sure that with the number of reactors onboard them they would still be able to move quite fast enough for my purposes. As a side note the Candlelight Class Escort Carriers are renamed CSJ Nicholas Kerensky Class carriers.
Stevid
14-04-2008, 22:10
OOC: and now we have aircraft carriers that can carry 320 aircraft. do u have specs for these things. cause they'd have to be huge and prolly couldnt move very fast at all . . . .plus how are u handling all that hydraulic stress etc. rough seas would be a nightmare

Hydraulic stress? I guess that is simply solved with huge hydraulic rams. Rough seas are of no consquence what so ever. The super acrriers of the USA, Russia, and the light carriers the Royal Navy and most of Europe have today can sail through hurricane force winds with little difficulty. If you mean by the safty of the aircraft... well one assumes that the crew aren't stupid enough not to secure the aircraft below the decks.

Yes we do. In fact we have had them since before you joined NS. The specs can be found on my reference thread, which you can find by typing 'Independent Hitmen' into the advanced search facility and then selecting threads started by that user before pressing search.

As a point of general interest they are not actually that big, they are taller than most conventional carriers and incorporate two hangar decks one below the other. Highly automated machinery also decreases the crew space requirements too.

Questers had carriers that could hold over 500 aircraft and I believe several other nations did as well, whether or not they still produce them I don't know. I personally purchased a few of the Questerian carriers, he used the name Illustrious Class for them I believe.

On the technical point I have no idea how the vessel would be handling hydraulic stress. The designs were basically just made up and took influence from other carriers in NS and real life vessels. I'm not a ship designer and have no pretensions to be, I was just looking for a unique ship in this world of clones and licensed production. I am pretty sure that with the number of reactors onboard them they would still be able to move quite fast enough for my purposes. As a side note the Candlelight Class Escort Carriers are renamed CSJ Nicholas Kerensky Class carriers.


LOL, we're so old. The number of effective use of aircraft is 100. You can have five hundred but never more than a hunred or so in the air or else it becomes far too difficult to bring them all home.
Exetonia
15-04-2008, 00:44
ULTIMATUM Finish up this rp TRBI or consider the whole event magically lost in a timewarp!
Flaming Souls
15-04-2008, 01:31
Yeah, this is getting a tad drawn out for what is now peace talks.
Exetonia
15-04-2008, 01:50
Exetonia now ignores TRBI until such a point as we feel TRBI can commit to an rp and not get bored of it. As of this post, the entire escapade is countred as if it never happend from an Exetonian stabnd point and i ask very politely that others do the same..

TRBI had plenty of time to reply today and to aknowledge my ultimatum.. in my eyes, TRBI has no interests in seeing this through to its conclusion.
Exetoniarpaccount
15-04-2008, 02:36
This is a placeholder to announce my intentions to use this as my main rp account.. The above still stands.
The Ryou Black Islands
15-04-2008, 03:32
Well, I thought you were so good at RPing. But it turns out that you are just a Gripe

When i saw that "ULTIMATUM" of yours, I know that you were nothing more then someone who gets pissed when you don't have your way. Your Ultimatums are nothing more then OOC Threats.

You know, I am sorry that i had to RP with Someone like you, Exetonia, and I am glad I will Never RP with You again! Not even on Diplomatic Threads! and If I see you trying to ruin my RP Image by teling others not to RP with me, I will IGNORE you.............Forever.
Exetonia
15-04-2008, 03:44
Well, I thought you were so good at RPing. But it turns out that you are just a Gripe

When i saw that "ULTIMATUM" of yours, I know that you were nothing more then someone who gets pissed when you don't have your way. Your Ultimatums are nothing more then OOC Threats.

You know, I am sorry that i had to RP with Someone like you, Exetonia, and I am glad I will Never RP with You again! Not even on Diplomatic Threads! and If I see you trying to ruin my RP Image by teling others not to RP with me, I will IGNORE you.............Forever.

I am good at rp'ing and a damn sight better than you. How dare you say I dont have my own way. Ive patiently waited for you to post in both the war and diplomacy thread and you didnt. You started your own new thread, continued your 1 line spamtacular crapfest of an rp and completly ignored your war.

My ultimatum was not a threat at all.. as far as im concerned your nation does not exist.. everybody was right about you.. you cant be botherd to commit and your lack of imagination means you will never be accepted as a decent rp'er.. ever.

I'm sorry i went out of my way to construct an rpo with you. You called in your big friends making it impossible for me to attack you.. you post crappy 2 paragraph posts that basically say sweet Fanny Adams and you have no concept of folowing an established timeline of events..

Im sure some people will continue to rp with u.. and good luck to them but i think im right in joining the long list of those who have you on their ignore list!
Exetoniarpaccount
15-04-2008, 04:18
CLOSED
Stevid
15-04-2008, 18:59
CLOSED

I concur.

Very dissapointed in both of you, let's not speak of this again.